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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff Mom Never told you. From how Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kristen and I'm Caroline. And Caroline we're talking about urinary

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Speaker 1: tract infections. I'm very excited. Yeah. Well, it's one of

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Speaker 1: those kind of kind of a one oh one topics

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Speaker 1: talked about a long time ago about yeast infections, like

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Speaker 1: unpleasant things like that that happened, but we don't you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't really it's not we want to educate the people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not one of those things where you

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Speaker 1: and I are like, you know, what's gonna get our

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Speaker 1: audience jammed? You're r a nary attract infections. And for

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Speaker 1: some reason, right before we came into the studio and

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Speaker 1: I was looking over, uh my ut I notes and

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Speaker 1: now I have something like ut I notes. That's weird.

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Speaker 1: H Do you ever watched Parks and Recreation only every

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Speaker 1: once in a while? Okay, well, I was thinking for

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Speaker 1: some reason when uh, whenever I would like I was

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Speaker 1: looking at urinary tract infection. I was just envisioning the

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Speaker 1: Parks and Red character John Raphael like coming in and

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Speaker 1: saying you have an eary tract infection, you know, like

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Speaker 1: kind of jazzy. And now whenever I'm looking at it

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Speaker 1: on my notes, it's that I'm sorry, I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: a blank stare. Well, I think I've only seen one episode. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm just trying to try to jazz up

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Speaker 1: urinary tract infections. That's right. Perhaps it should be the

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Speaker 1: jazz old Yes, jazz. The jazz line probably could increase

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Speaker 1: your chances of a U T I. But what is

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Speaker 1: the U T I? Caroline, I'll tell you, Kristen, a

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Speaker 1: It's actually a really unpleasant infection and it can be

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Speaker 1: in any part of your urinary system, your kidneys, readers,

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Speaker 1: your your readers. I guess I should say those are

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Speaker 1: actually tubes leading from the kidneys. Do the bladder and

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Speaker 1: the part that has the most infections, the bladder and

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Speaker 1: the urethra. That's the lower part of your urinary tract. Now,

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Speaker 1: if we want to get clinical about things, Caroline, the

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Speaker 1: terms associated with u tis because they're u tis an

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Speaker 1: umbrella term for bacterioria. That one came out. It almost

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty bacterioria. Oh is that a bacterioria? Why, yes,

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Speaker 1: it is. And that's the presence of bacteria in the urine.

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Speaker 1: Or is the stitus a a bladder infection? Or pylonaphritis

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Speaker 1: a kidney infection? And uh, what I did not know

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Speaker 1: is also the high cost of uties these rather commonplace infections.

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Speaker 1: They cost the healthcare system two billion dollars a year

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Speaker 1: because of these because of these infections. UM, so going

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Speaker 1: in too. Yeah, let's let's get underneath the umbrella. Let's

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Speaker 1: tell up underneath the umbrella. The umbrella. Here it is,

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Speaker 1: and on one side we we have a bladder infection. Right,

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Speaker 1: They're very common, they aren't serious. And the most common

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Speaker 1: cause of a bladder infection is e coal I A

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Speaker 1: k A. The number one thing that freaks me out

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Speaker 1: um symptoms. I remember. I will actually never forget my

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Speaker 1: into our symptoms, painful urination, burning sensation during urination, cloudy blood,

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Speaker 1: tinged or strong smelling urine, abdominal pain, fever, pelvic pain

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. But Kristen, you had told me

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Speaker 1: something I didn't know earlier, which was the reason for

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Speaker 1: fairy dust. Kidney infections are really serious. Uh. They require

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Speaker 1: going to Carolinson to you, we're so honest about your

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Speaker 1: up to the special I V drip of magic. Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: having some granberry juice. But there are ways that our

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Speaker 1: she writes just a quick note in reference to your

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Speaker 1: Queen b episode. Back in the day, I used to

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Speaker 1: work as an assistant in an executive coaching firm, and

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Speaker 1: I picked up a few tidbits here and there. In

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Speaker 1: regard to the gender gap, there is a theory that

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Speaker 1: men aren't necessarily valued more than women, but that they

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Speaker 1: tend to be negotiating their starting salary more often than

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Speaker 1: their female counterparts. If Jane accepts he offered twenty five

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Speaker 1: tho dollar salary and John negotiates set up to twenty

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars, they may receive the same percentage races,

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Speaker 1: but over time the gap between their salaries will grow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is completely true, but it

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Speaker 1: is a thought that has always stayed with me. And yes, overall, Uh,

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Speaker 1: that is a very common thing that happens in the workplace.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, where women don't negotiate hard

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Speaker 1: enough um or will accept the first offer or the

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Speaker 1: first job that is laid in front of them, where

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Speaker 1: as men, because of socialization, because of many many factors,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, tend to start off with even slightly higher salaries.

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Speaker 1: But like she correctly points out, that gap is only

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Speaker 1: going to grow wider and wider. So I think that

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Speaker 1: things are starting to change if you look at a

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Speaker 1: different industries, but nevertheless, negotiate. We gotta speak up get

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