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Let's go to the show. 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: We are just days away from the Benito Bowl, the 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime performance of global superstar Bad Money from 10 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: of course Puerto Rico, and shall we say we're a 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: little bit excited, but we know not everyone's excited. The 12 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: NFL just chose the Bad Bunny Rabbit. 13 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny's hits are in Spanish and contain every sexual 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: term possible. 15 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: And speaking of lyrics, we're going to begin today's episode 16 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: by playing the Bad Bunny translation game, d Me, Me Me. 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Our contestants are longtime friend of our show and host 18 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: of Laists in Perfect Paradise, Antonia, said Hido. 19 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Vanessa dis is professor and co author of befn Ere 21 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: How Bad Bunny became the global voice of Puerto Rican Resistance. Vanessa, 22 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you so much. And another 23 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: friend of the pod culture journalist tes Garcia, is back 24 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: with us. Hey, Tess, thank you so much for having me. 25 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: For the first time I can say this is my 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: super Bowl and mean it. 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay, The way that this is going to 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: work is, I'm going to read lyrics from a bad 29 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Bunny song in English, and our guests are going to 30 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: try to guess the song, and whoever answers the fastest wins. 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: So here we go, contestants, here's your first song. I 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: should have taken more pictures from when I had you. 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I should have given you more kisses and hugs as 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: many times as I could. Hey, I hope that mind 35 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: never move away. And if I get drunk today, then 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: help me. Who was first? 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: I think it was me. 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: We we don't stand a chance against Vanessa. 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Vanessa d T m F second song in the challenge. 40 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Here we go. I'm going to take them all to 41 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: the vi P the vi P. Hey say hello to Auntie. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Let's take a selfie, Say cheese, Hey, let the ones 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: I already slept with smile in a VIP A vi P. 44 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: He say helo to Anti. It was me all right? 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 5: Test means my Auntie asked me. 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Third song in the competition, Here we go. The baby 47 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: arrives and feels the pressure. She doesn't even try yet 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: she draws attention. Hate tworking is her profession. Always ready 49 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: for the mission. Test Kayaita, by the way, means she's. 50 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 4: Quiet, en daringly quiet. 51 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: All right. Fourth song in the competition. Let's see if 52 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: I get Okay, come on, Antonia. 53 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: I know well, I'm really i feel like I'm at 54 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: a disadvantage. I'm with mad bunny queen. 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Why because you're in California and you're Argentinian. 56 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: What is the Oh my god, Okay, damn, I have 57 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: no excuse. 58 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. It's been a while since I've 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: fallen in love with anyone, and I'm here for you. 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Do it, do, do it again. But my time is gold. 61 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, test No, no, it's not me. Yeah. 62 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 6: Yeah. 63 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: Your fifth and last song, Antonia, I'm rooting for you. 64 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: My most listened to artists in twenty twenty five. 65 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: I am okay. If you see me alone and sad, 66 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: don't talk to me. If you see me alone and 67 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: said it's my fault. Life is a party that one 68 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: day ends, and you were my unforgettable dance. Vanessa totally 69 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: got it. 70 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: You know. 71 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: It's just that people knows that I that I do 72 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: know the song. 73 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: And the name of this song Vanessa is And who 74 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: knew that I was a game show host? 75 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: Right? 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: It's Latino USA. I'm Marieo. Today, global superstar Grammy Award 77 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: winning tra Perro Bad Bunny is going to headline the 78 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl sixty halftime show. We're gonna look at the 79 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: significance of a Puerto Rican Spanish language artist on the stage. 80 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: We're also going to speculate about the performance, and we're 81 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna question the NFL's motives. Dear listener, Over one hundred 82 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: million viewers across the US, we'll be watching the Seattle 83 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the New England Patriots go head to head 84 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: for the title of Super Bowl Champion. And while we 85 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: wish the teams and their fans good luck, the super 86 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: Bowl that we had, let you know usay are most 87 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: anticipating is less pigskin and more Bad Bunny. Every year, 88 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: the All American Football Spectacle puts on a halftime musical 89 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: extravaganza that has become one of the most coveted slots 90 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: on the un US Musical calendar and it is watched 91 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: around the world. This year will be the first time 92 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: a performer on the halftime stage will sing in Spanish only, 93 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: or at least mostly in Spanish. We don't know yet 94 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: what exactly Bad Bunny has planned. Shortly after the NFL 95 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: chose the Latino Salsero, the pick drew criticism from the 96 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: ultra right, which have called for counter programming during Music's 97 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Superstar Bad Bunnies super Bowl Halftime Show, and more recently, 98 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: President Trump. 99 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: He will not be in attendance, and an interview, Trump 100 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: said he was not fond of the performers. 101 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Green Day will be kicking off the. 102 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, while Bad Bunny will be performing at halftime. 103 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Both performers have expressed their views on the administration. Green 104 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Day played a show recently in which the lead singer 105 00:06:50,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: said in Spanish f immigration agents. The Super Bowl halftime 106 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: show will be the only stop in the US for 107 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: the Bad Bunny Global tour. He brought up his own 108 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: fears that I could raid concert venues if he played here, 109 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: But now with the full force of American football behind him, 110 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny will take the stage at Levi Stadium in 111 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: Santa Clara, California, to give some context on this year's 112 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: halftime show, I speak with three cultural experts Antonia sa 113 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Dhilo tes Garcia, and Vanessa Diaz. We're going to jump 114 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: into the conversation now. I had actually forgotten about this, 115 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: and I bet there are a lot of people who 116 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: also forgot about this. Antonia, this is in fact not 117 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the first time that Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio, our friend 118 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny, is actually on the super Bowl stage. He 119 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: was on stage with j Lo and with Shaquita during 120 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: their halftime performance. So Antonia, just tell us a little 121 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: bit about what happened at that super Bowl performance and 122 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: why his being there was so important, along with the 123 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: fact that you had two Latinas performing for the first time. 124 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to say this is where I am 125 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: an expert. I've watched the Shakira Jlo halftime super Bowl 126 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: show maybe like once a month since it happened. It 127 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: was like a monumental event in my life. Yeah, I 128 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: guess so much and there was a lot of drama 129 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 2: behind the scenes we learned later partly because of the 130 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: Jalo documentary where she really wanted to be the only performer. 131 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: This is going to be the year it's in Miami. 132 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: They want a Latina, and it looked like I was 133 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: the front runner. After months of rumors, it was confirmed 134 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: that Jennifer Lopez will perform the Super Bowl. 135 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Halftime show The Twist and No One Stopped Coming. She'll 136 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: be joined by. 137 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Shakira, which I actually think was brilliant because it was 138 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: just so fun. It was like jam packed, like fifteen 139 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: minutes of like glorious dancing. 140 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: Okay, that. 141 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: And the two invited guests on that show were Bad 142 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Bunny and then Jay Balban got Little Get Up and 143 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: it invited a global audience. I think that was the 144 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: big thing. It's like, you first you see the NFL 145 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: starting to like court a global audience with that show, 146 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: and since then, the NFL has just continued to do that. 147 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: So that was like a very important tipping off point. 148 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: When was the last time you watched the show? Two 149 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: days ago? 150 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: I introduced it to my son. 151 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: He's twelve weeks old, and you've already got him. Okay, 152 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: you know. 153 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: The important things in life. 154 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Vanessa. We're talking today because of the Benito Bowl, So 155 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: how do you think that Puerto Rico is going to 156 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: be depicted differently by Bad Bunny as opposed to j Lo. 157 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they are both Puerto Rican icons, but in 158 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: many ways they not be more different. What do you 159 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: think is going to be the difference that we're going 160 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: to be able to see? 161 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Bad Bunny is a completely different figure 162 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: from a completely different era and has a completely different 163 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: approach to his music. I think you know, Bad Bunny 164 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: came up as a Latin trap and a regaton artist. 165 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: Those are two genres that have been very marginalized. Latin 166 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: music is marginalized generally, but those two genres in particular 167 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 4: have been marginalized, have been targeted, and Bad Bunny has 168 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: emerged as the world's biggest star in spite of the 169 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: fact that he comes from those genres and perhaps because 170 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: of in some ways his political nature. And I know 171 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: he definitely does not think of himself as an activist 172 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: or a political figure, but he is. We can see 173 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: it in his music and his performance, in the ways 174 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 4: that he presents himself in his lyrics that he stands 175 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 4: for an entire generation, and he takes it really seriously 176 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: that he also represents Puerto Rico in really particular ways 177 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: at a time when Puerto Rico is just going through 178 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: so much politically and in terms of gentrification and displacement, 179 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 4: and Bad Bunny is just this staunch advocate for his homeland. 180 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: This is a critical moment for Puerto Rico, This is 181 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: a critical moment for Latinos, and I think that Bad 182 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: Bunny really understands the gravity and it's going to be 183 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 4: a political show. 184 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: Whether that is the goal or not, it. 185 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: Just is, Madie, I want to add something, which is 186 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: go ahead the Shakira Jlo performance, the most political it 187 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: got was there was a moment in which Jlo showed 188 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: the Puerto Rican flag with the American flag and also 189 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: had like kids in cages, the cages. Yeah, I don't 190 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: think everyone picked up that that was exactly what she 191 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: had intended. 192 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: The image of the cages. 193 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: For me, like I couldn't believe what I was watching. 194 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: It made me realize that I have a responsibility to 195 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: not be quiet, to not. 196 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: Just leave the politics to everybody else. 197 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a political message against the 198 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: immigration policies of Donald Trump, and. 199 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: We're going to get into the politics of it in 200 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: a second. But Tess, I'm just wondering, what do you 201 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: think is going to be the big difference between j Lo, 202 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: Shaquita and Bad Bunny on stage. 203 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: Mariya, I think a lot of people, a lot of 204 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: Latinos who didn't necessarily have an opinion on Bad Bunny 205 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: or let alone a positive one, flip the switch with 206 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: this album Withotos and I think a lot of the 207 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: things that really made people fall in love with this 208 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: album are going to be on full display in this performance. 209 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: A lot of what we saw at his residency, for example, 210 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: his appointment of Noos, an incredible band of young Puerto 211 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: Rican musicians. We're going to see him there for sure. 212 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see all sorts of live 213 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: instrumentation that likes at which the super Bowl has never seen. 214 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: So that means Vanessa as the Bad Bunny Gonejo Malo 215 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: expert who's actually written the book about Bad Bunny. What 216 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: do you think it means for him for Puerto Rico 217 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: to be the center of this worldwide stage. 218 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: It's so massive, it's incredibly hard to articulate. I think 219 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: that to Tessa's point that we are going to see 220 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 4: Puerto Rico, traditional Puerto Rican genres front and center, right. 221 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: This album brought all of that to the front right. 222 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: Part of what that album also does is it reminds 223 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: us and forces that reggaeton is also part of Puerto 224 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: Rican cultural heritage. And we're gonna get the hard, bereal 225 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: songs that we have on the album produced by Tiny, 226 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: who is like one of the originators. But in terms 227 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: of the massiveness of this moment, I mean, we just 228 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: have to think about what Puerto Rico is. Puerto Rico 229 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: is a small territory. It is a colony of the 230 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: United States at a time when Latin America and the 231 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: Caribbean are feeling the impacts of what it means for 232 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: the US to be an imperial colonial force in the region. 233 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: Puerto Rico has been feeling that since eighteen ninety eight, 234 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: and really not much has changed since then. 235 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: People have been suffering. 236 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: There's been forced displacement and forced migration throughout the history 237 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: of US colonialism, and bad money is a product of that. 238 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: Every single Puerto Rican born in Puerto Rico is a 239 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: direct subject of US colonialism and it is in every 240 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: element of his work. His presence on stage is resistance, 241 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: his music is resistance, and whether he says something that 242 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: people understand as overtly political or not, all we have 243 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: to do is look at his songs. You don't have 244 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: to understand it all. 245 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: We're going to take a break, but when we come back, 246 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the NFL's motives for choosing 247 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny. 248 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Bad Money is the biggest artist in the world. The 249 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: NFL wants the biggest artists in the world to do 250 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: the super Show. 251 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 252 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 6: Yes, there's a lot going on right now, mounting economic inequality, 253 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: threats to democracy, environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos. 254 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: In the air. 255 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 6: I'm Brook Gladstone, host of WNYC's On the Media. Want 256 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: to understand the reasons and the meanings of the narratives 257 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 6: that let us hear and maybe how to head them 258 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 6: off with the pass that's on the media's specialty. Take 259 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 6: a listen wherever you get your podcasts. 260 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: Hey, we're back And before the break, Antonia Si, Rahido 261 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: tes Garcia and Vanessa Diaz broke down past Super Bowl 262 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: halftime performances and now this one is going to be 263 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: very different. Now, just what are the NFL's mode is 264 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: for choosing Bad Bunny. 265 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Bad Bunny is a once in a lifetime artist, 266 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: and I also think this is a once in a 267 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: lifetime moment. I think we in general right now we're 268 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: at a moment where sports means so much politically. The 269 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: fact that the World's Cup is going to be happening 270 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: partly in the United States soon, and we already see 271 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: the geopolitics playing out, and I think here in this country, 272 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: it is extremely interesting that the NFL made this decision. 273 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: On the one hand, it's obvious bad money is the 274 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: biggest artist in the world. The NFL wants the biggest 275 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: artists in the world to do the Super Bowl show. 276 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: From a commercial standpoint, we understand. 277 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: And the NFL says the Latino Phantom grew twice as 278 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: fast as all fans since twenty ten. 279 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: The NFL audience, we think of them as such an 280 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: American audience. They are actively trying to recruit a global audience, 281 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: and so I think they are trying to position themselves. 282 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: You could say it's cynical, you could say there's some 283 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: sort of moralistic thing behind there at that. 284 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. 285 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: I would pay so much money to be in those 286 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: meetings where the NFL decided who the Super Bowl artists 287 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: would be. In fact, any tips out there, like we 288 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: gotta know, I'm so I'm so curious what that conversation 289 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: was like. 290 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: But we're this is a. 291 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Very important moment culturally, politically, socially, and I think it's 292 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: really interesting and also will hopefully be a ton of fun. 293 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: If anybody has been following Bad Bunny's tour, you know 294 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: that when he was on the island, there was somebody 295 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: who he was going to bring out that was just 296 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: super like important, essential or surprising, like John Hamm from 297 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Mad Men, Juan Hammon? Are you kidding? 298 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: He's a really nice guy and he's funny and he's 299 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: fun and his music is awesome. 300 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: I know. 301 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: And they gave you a nickname. I think it was 302 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: Tina Amy who did it. 303 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 4: They said that Bad Bunny can call you John Hammon. 304 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: All right, So, Tess, you actually spoke with some of 305 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: the members of the female led Puerto Rican design team 306 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: that did Bad Bunny set for his residency in twenty 307 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: twenty five. So do you think that some of that 308 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Gasita vibe is going to be transported onto NFL stage? 309 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: What do you think this set is going to be 310 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: for the NFL? 311 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Quick little summary. The set of his residency had two sides. 312 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: There was Montana that was plants, that were endemic to 313 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: Puerto Rico. 314 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Across that area of the stage. 315 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: Turn your head to the other side, you have lac Asito, 316 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: which has become the most emblematic aspect of the residency 317 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: in terms of the visuals as well as what's now 318 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: become the world tour that beneathos taking it on. La 319 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: Casita was meant to represent a house, a traditional house 320 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: in Puerto Rico. It was a moment for pretty much 321 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 3: anybody high profile who knows Benito Or's team to be like, hey, 322 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: can I pull up and hang out? And it was 323 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: really just a cool place that broke the barrier between 324 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: audience and celebrity in a bit of a way. So 325 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: I think we'll get some representation of Lacasa for sure 326 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: at the Super Bowl. Given the size constraints of the 327 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: halftime show, I think like Asita is something they'd be 328 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: able to scale really easily. 329 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: It was fascinating to watch who got invited to the house, 330 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: to the caside that what their positioning was in the 331 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: casside that. I was fascinated given that you Vanessa understand 332 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: bad Bunny really through a political lens. Who do you 333 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: think he's going to have show. 334 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: Up I think that given the trailer that we saw 335 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 4: and this theme of unity, that we're getting this moment 336 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 4: politically in terms of the criminalizing of Latinos, the criminalizing 337 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: of migrants, the criminalizing of the Spanish language. I think 338 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: that we are definitely going to see a lot of 339 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 4: Puerto Rican artists, but I expect that we will see 340 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: a Musica Mexicana artist. I think given the challenges around 341 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: visas right now that like Nathaniel Gano came out at 342 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: the concert I was at, he can't get a visa 343 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: right now. So I think Group of Frontera is a 344 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: likely front runner for a coll ab on stage, bringing 345 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: together different Latinal communities. And I definitely think that he's 346 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: going to showcase some of those younger Puerto Rican artists, 347 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: not just the groups that are with him like Loso 348 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: and Los Blenos La Cresta, who will definitely be there, 349 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: and I think that we may see one of the 350 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: like up and coming Regaeton artists like davey Omar Qurtz 351 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: and this kind of new generation. I think that I 352 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: think what he wants us to see is unity and 353 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: also that the future is bright and we have these 354 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 4: young artists that are going to carry us through incoming generations. 355 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: Let's take a break here, and when we come back, 356 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: lightning round predictions. Tess, who's going to be at the casita? 357 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: Zora and mom Donnie's on the braid, But I don't 358 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: think he'll be there. I would just love to see 359 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: him because can you imagine. 360 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: I would follow up and say, will AOC show up? 361 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: My mom calls that bunny Benito Antonio Martinez Cortez because 362 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: she's like, that must be his name, right. 363 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Yes, hey, we're back. Did you know that you can 364 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: actually listen to an extended cut of our Bad Bunny 365 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl halftime show conversation if you become a member 366 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: of Futuro Plus right now. Sign up at futuromediagroup dot 367 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: org slash join plus. Let's finish up our conversation with Tess, 368 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Antonia and Vanessa. You know, the NFL ten years ago, 369 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: in my view, lost so much credibility because it's the 370 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: organization that basically turned their backs on Colin Kaepernick, who 371 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: was bending a knee in order to draw attention to 372 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: police brutality against black and brown people. And here we 373 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: are celebrating the fact that Bad Bunny has been chosen 374 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: by the NFL to be the halftime performer. So what's 375 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: up with this? How are we how should we understand this? 376 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for pointing that out, because also 377 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: Aziz al Shaier was fined because he had stopped the 378 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: genis and tape across his nose. I have no affiliation, 379 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: no connection to these people, other than the fact that 380 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: I'm a human being. Right, if you have a heart 381 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: the human being, you can see what's going on in 382 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: the world. And he's fine for this. And so I 383 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: think that between the Colin Kaepernick moment and this more 384 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: recent incident and the NFL kind of then being known 385 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 4: for really silencing protest, to then have someone like Benito 386 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: take the stage, it feels contradictory. Like we understand that 387 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: it's a smart business decision, but still it's very contradictory. 388 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: And I think that this is part of what makes 389 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 4: the moment so significant. It's no secret that bad Bunny 390 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: has been active in protest. It's no secret that he 391 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: has been outspoken against Trump. It's no secret that he 392 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: has very clearly anti colonial lyrics. And so this choice 393 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: was made. It was a calculated business decision, and all 394 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: of these factors did not stop the NFL from having 395 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: him take that stage, that's how massive he is. But 396 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: I hold firm that Bad Bunny's presence is political, and 397 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 4: that in fact, even if we're just there to listen 398 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: and have fun, that in these moments where our communities 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: are being targeted and killed and deported, and there's call 400 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: to deport Bad Bunny and a white supremacist alternative halftime 401 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: show is being created, that listening and enjoying the music 402 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: is a moment where we can say, you know what, 403 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: this joy is resistance and we need that to. 404 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: One of the big questions Antonia is the question of language. 405 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: Do you think Antonia, that Bad Bunny is going to 406 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: say anything in English at all? Oh, that's an interesting question. 407 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: I think he won't, given how he's talked in the past. 408 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: And I also want to point out that the English 409 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: only movement in this country actually started in Miami when 410 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: they saw that Latin wealthy Latinos were building businesses and 411 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: they were operating in Spanish. And so I think, going 412 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: back to my cynical self, I think we're an interesting moment, 413 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: Like I see what's happening in New York with like 414 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: a mayor like Zoorn Mamdanni, and I think that in 415 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: the past, speaking Spanish would have been seen as this 416 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: very important political statement against some of these backwards policies. 417 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of the center of Latino 418 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: power in this country is obviously in Miami. We see 419 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: someone like Marco Rubio, who is an integral part of 420 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: the Trump administration, and I think Latinos need to be 421 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: having a much more honest conversation about the different parts 422 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: of our community and how it is impacting those who 423 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: are less fortunate. On the one hand, I think it's 424 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: like amazing that bad money refuses to speak English. On 425 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: the other hand, I'm also starting to be very cynical 426 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: about that. 427 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: All Right, we're going to do to end some rapid 428 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: fire predictions. Some of you have already dropped some names, 429 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it rapid fire. We're going to 430 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: start Vanessa test and then Antonia question an unexpected guest 431 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you want to see Vanessa? Oh yeah, yeah, oh my god, 432 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: unexpected guests on Oh you took my No. Two for 433 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Diego Antonia through Mio Santos Vanessa, who do you think 434 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: we will see at the casita? Maybe John Hamm. 435 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: I think we might get a revival of that moment. 436 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Jay z mm Okay, Tess, who's going to be at 437 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: the casita? 438 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: Zora and mom? Donnie's on the braid. 439 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think he'll be there. 440 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: I would just love to see him because can you imagine. 441 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: I would follow up and say, will AOC show up? 442 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: When you all were talking about Paula. 443 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: My mom calls that bunny Benito Antonio Martinez Cortez because 444 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: she's like, that must be his name, right. 445 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: Like Cacio Corte. I wonder. 446 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: I think she'd catch a lot of flak if she 447 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: were there in the she could be. 448 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Could be all right, Antonia, who's going to be at 449 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: the casita? I want to see Cardi b same? 450 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. I really thought that Cardi and j Balvin would 451 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: come back out and do I like it in the 452 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 4: full original way, But then Jay Balvin said he wasn't 453 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: gonna go, So I'm like moving on. 454 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Which song is gonna be first? Vanessa? I think it's 455 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna be by le Tests Yeah, I agree. 456 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: I can picture that the lights start to Oh. 457 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: I have chills me too, just to go totally. 458 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that Gei, oh, because that'd be fun, fun. 459 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: That would be fun. Okay, what song will he close with? 460 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Vanessa lam Ansa Tests? 461 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: I think he might close with DTMF. 462 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 463 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say the same thing, but. 464 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: I like level Dansa because it's such a fun, uplifting 465 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: end to the album and and the show normally, Antonia, I. 466 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Agree with Test. 467 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be DTMF. 468 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Who's gonna win the super Bowl? Vanessa? Don't you even know? 469 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: It's between Tests, Las coulonaere On, We're going. 470 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: This is my. 471 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Antonia, anybody else you think is gonna way? That 472 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: is the best answer. Yeah, I agree. Okay, Well listen, 473 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: I feel so informed, I feel so ready, I feel 474 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: so bad Bunny smart, and that's because of you three. 475 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: Antonia Shil, longtime friend of the show, host of Eliists 476 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: in Perfect Paradise, Vanessa Dias, professor and co author of 477 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: How Bad Bunny became the global voice of Puerto Rican resistance, 478 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: and cultural journalist Tess Garcia, thank you so much for 479 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: joining me getting ready for the super Bowl. Can't believe 480 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: I actually just said those words. Thank you so much 481 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: for having us, thanks for having so smart. I'm amazed 482 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Can we do it again? Can we do it after 483 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: the super Bowl again? 484 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: Can we do a post super Bowl recap? 485 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: I know we're all like, let's keep going please. 486 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: Vanessa Diaz is Booky Fire. How Bad Bunny Became The 487 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Globe Voice of Puerto Rican Resistance is out now, and 488 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: dear listener, after the champions for the Super Bowl are revealed, 489 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: in order to further your love of that buddy and 490 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: all things Puerto Rico, check out season three of our 491 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Futuro podcast, which is called La Brega and it's coming 492 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: up on season three. 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