1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: This is the Intergalactic John. This is Airlyen Salem on 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: the International Okay Storytime podcast station, and we have some 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: human stories coming up, not alien, but before we make 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: a landing, stick around for this two minute not alien 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: ad break before we get to these interstellar stories. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: My girlfriend and I went to different colleges. Now I'm 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: afraid she might cheat on me. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: He's got a lot of options. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: And it's Back to School Week on Okay Storytime Podcasts, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: where we're cracking open the wildest campus tells from college 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: sweethearts to evil professors that'll make you question is my 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: student loan worth this? If you're new here and looking 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: for the story my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: and now I'm seriously suspicious. Just click the link in 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: the show notes slash description, or search back to School Week, 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay Storytime wherever you get your podcasts. Let's dive into 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: this one. I eighteen male, dated my girlfriend eighteen females 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: since the last two years of high school friends before that, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: and eventually became romantic. We're both somewhat introverted and hung 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: around the same gamer slash geek circle. She started college 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: in a different town and seems to have gotten more 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: social by the way. This comes from Pike twenty two 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay stories. 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm sub about it. 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota. So everything was normal 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: for the first month. We followed every day and visited 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: on weekends. I'm in a engineering program, so my studies 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: occasionally got in the way. Around Halloween, I realized my 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: girlfriend was having as much trouble making plans as I 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: was as a history major, though it couldn't be the 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: schoolwork that was keeping her busy. Sometimes she would bail 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: on her plans to study, but other times her reasons 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: were that she got roped into going to the movies 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: or being a band or or seeing a band play 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: at a campus bar. Nothing crazy, just unusual in the 37 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: sense that she was socializing more often than she did 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: back home. When I went to visit her in November, 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: I noticed she had switched to wearing contact lenses. She 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: was also dressing more mainstream than in high school. Her 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: usual style used to be clunky boots and ironic T shirts. 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: We didn't even get to hang out the full weekend 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: since she agreed to spend Saturday driving to an outlet 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: mall with one of her friends. I was guilty of 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: going into hermit mode at the end of the term 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: to prepare for exams. Although studying kept me from visiting 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: her or talking very often, I paid attention to all 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: the social activities she described doing. It seemed like she 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: was going to more bars and house parties, even though 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: our style was always to avoid wasted people. She stayed 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: on campus a few days after her last exam. I 52 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: was still studying but found it weird she didn't want 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: to come home right away after I finished. We reverted 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: to our regular routine for a week. We watched The Hobbit, 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: hung out with friends, went skiing, etc. Other than ditching 56 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: her glae glasses, my girlfriend dressed more like her old self. 57 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: We talked a lot. I probed for information about her 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: new friends and the party she had attended. Everything she 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: told me sounded very tame. We agreed to do something 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: fun for New Years. Instead of watching movies at home 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: like we've done in the past, we went to a 62 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: bar where a couple of our friends said they were going. 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: It ended up being way louder and crazier than expected. 64 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: Our friends left before twelve. My girlfriend did a better 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: job than I did of getting into the spirit. She 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: tried encouraging me to drink and relax, but I could 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: only fake it so much. I did not want to 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: spoil her New Year's Eve. I let her keep drinking 69 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 2: and dancing, even when someone else brought her a drink. 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: From the bar. 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: We stayed well past midnight. She got increasingly stubborn and 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: out of control. By the time I checked my watch 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: at one thirty, she was off dancing, and a group 74 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: of strangers with the jacket part of her outfit left 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: sitting at her tape. When a wasted guy came up 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: behind her. She eventually danced away from him, but then 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: it seem overly bothered by the attention, I can't wait 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: to leave the bar. At closing time, my girlfriend was wasted, sweaty, 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: and mad at me for being uptight. I'm sure a 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: lot of guys wouldn't have been so patient. I took 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: care of her in the morning, waiting for her hangover 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: to pass. She didn't want to have a conversation about 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: anything the following night. The only problem with New Years 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: in her mind was I acted too immature, So that's 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: where we're at. 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: She went back to college a few hours ago. 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: The only additional information is that some of our friends 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: told me in private they got a weird feeling hanging 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: out with her this Christmas. They felt she was more 90 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: distant than usual, checked her iPhone a lot, and was 91 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: harder to chat with about normal things. I'm no expert 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: at social situations. That's why I present as much information 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: as I can to the social savvier members of Reddit. 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Does this honestly seem like a situation that could lead 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: to my girlfriend cheating on me? We had been trusted 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: best friends for years. My preference is to maintain a 97 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: trusting relationship with my girlfriend, give her enough space to 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: grow as a person, and not suffocate her. But I'm 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: am I only being naive to let things keep unfolding 100 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: the way they are now. Is my first long term relationship, 101 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: so I would refer to the wisdom of anyone with 102 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: more credible relationship experience than I have. 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: Thanks in advance, we have an update. 104 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: I remember growing up, I didn't go to parties. I 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: wasn't around anyone that was wasted. I kind of avoided 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: all that, And then I think Right around the time 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: I got out of college, I started doing that stuff. 108 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: But the first times I was there, I was like, 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: this is not my vibe. 110 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: These are not my people. 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: I do not like this, And sometimes when I go out, 112 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't like it because I don't like being around 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: that atmosphere. 114 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: I agree, No, I one hundred percent understand, and I 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: want to be clear, like, I think it's totally fair 116 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: that OPI is a little eighteen year old being like, 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: I'm not super comfortable around this. But the problem is 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: that he is acting like his girlfriend is not allowed 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: to chick and find herself and be more into these 120 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: things just because she wasn't into them in high school. 121 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: There was a lot of things that I wasn't into 122 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: high school that I, you know, was doing in college 123 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: because you're growing up and you finally have independence. And also, 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 3: of course she wasn't drinking back in high school because 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: she's not legally allowed to. You know, it's like, it's different, 126 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: you have that independence. 127 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: Can you go up a little bit? One more? 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: That one? 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: Shanna Shanna plll Nerd says, as long as he keeps 131 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: trying to keep tabs on her every minute of the day, 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: night it will absolutely lead to an ending OPI won't like. 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, personally, I think you guys are growing apart. I 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: think you're going into different people. And my honest recommendation 135 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: is that you should break up, not because she's cheating 136 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: on you, like she might be. I don't want to say, 137 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: like either way, we really don't know. I think that 138 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: you are so worried about what she's going to do, 139 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: and also you're so worried about who she's becoming relations yeah, 140 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: instead of enjoying and she's like right now, it seems 141 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: like she's so focused on like all of the new 142 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: experiences that she can have in college. You need to 143 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: be focused on that and yourself rather than focused on 144 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: everything that your girlfriend is doing. You know, I think 145 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: you're too focused on the relationship when you should be 146 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: enjoying the new experiences. 147 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed. And also this is a candid event. 148 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: For every guy they get they have a relationship, the 149 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: girlfriend kind of isn't the same person, So I'll date recat. 150 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: I was worried about my quirky individualist girlfriend getting caught 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: up in a party lifestyle at college. When she came 152 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: back for Christmas, things were normal for a couple of weeks. 153 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: On New Year, she insisted on going to a bar, 154 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: got wasted and blame me for acting immature. I didn't 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: fight back. The holidays ended. 156 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: On a bad note. 157 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: The following weekend, I visited her on campus. I was 158 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: already busy with school, but one it's a smooth things over. 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: We only had one day together, so I made reservations 160 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: at a nice restaurant. It was a good dinner. The 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: next weekend, we were both too busy to hang out. 162 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: It looked like we'd be too busy this weekend too, 163 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: but I decided to visit her at the last minute. 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: By the time I made up my mind to drive over, 165 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: she wasn't answering her phone. I thought I could hear 166 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: someone in the room. When I got to her door, 167 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: no one answered the door, though I heard another thud inside. 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: As I went to call my girlfriend, a tall girl 169 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: with brown hair came flying out. She yelled behind her, sorry, 170 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: I had to pee. I just stared up in surprise, 171 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: having stepped forward so she wouldn't shut the door. 172 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: I was speechless. 173 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: When I got into the room, there were four people. 174 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: My girlfriend was lying in bed with the covers pulled 175 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: to her neck. Besides not wearing any glasses, she had 176 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: also straightened her hair instead of curly outfro look. It 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: was unrecognizably long and dark. A short, blonde girl was 178 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: sitting on the foot of the bed. Some guy who 179 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: looked like Chris Pine was at her desk. A larger her, 180 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: almost fat, frat guy was sitting on the autumn. The 181 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: room smell like pot even though I couldn't see anyone smoking. 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: I looked around, trying to figure out what's happening. Chris 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Pine broke the silence with a joke. Bust it, he coughed. 184 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: The three strangers were laughing. I asked my girlfriend what 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: the f The blonde girl gave me a nasty look, 186 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: and the guy on the ottoman was like, take it easy, bro. 187 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: My girlfriend asked me defensively what The first thing I 188 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: ended up saying was why does it smell like the 189 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: devil's lettuce in here? The other three started cracking up, 190 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: which made me angrier. At this point, the tall girl 191 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: snuck back into the room. She put a hand over 192 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: her mouth like she was trying not to laugh. Captain 193 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: Kirk acted friendly. He reassured me she wasn't doing anything. 194 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: The tall girl giggled and added, yeah, because she's such 195 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: a loser. 196 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: Oh so she's not even smoking, she's just around people 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: who are Oh my gosh, Opie, you're totally overreacting. 198 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: My girlfriend tried to shut everyone up by jumping out 199 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: of bed and yelling, guys, she was only wearing a 200 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: pair of boy shorts and a tank top. Okay, so 201 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: she's not naked. 202 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: She's wearing pajamas, and it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, 203 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 5: I got what wait wait wait wait they look skimpier 204 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: than anything else she had worn as pajamas. 205 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 6: Because she's in college. She's wearing little little shorts and. 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: A tank top because she's like, oh do you know? Okay, 207 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: I literally in high school wore I was like so modest. 208 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: I was so modest, and like after in college, probably 209 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: towards the end of college, I began worring wearing like 210 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: tank tops, and you know, it happens, you change your style. 211 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: You don't even want to know what she wears nowadays. 212 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: Ha ha ha. 213 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: I got mad realizing she was dressed this way in 214 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: front of two guys. The clothes were so small that 215 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: her front airbags and. 216 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: But on full display. 217 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: She stood in the middle of the room holding her head. 218 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: I really need to chill out. Okay, here your talk. 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: I realized she was baked as well. It didn't show 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: any specific emotion other than being confused. She opened the 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: door and encouraged everyone to leave. Looking bewildered. The blond 222 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: girl consoled her and said and said something like we'll 223 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: see you tonight. Chris Pine gave me a pat on 224 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: the back, saying, take it easy, bud. 225 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: I hope he's spot to go out punching. 226 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: Don't call me buddy, don't call me. Don't don't call 227 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: me pale, don't call me sport. 228 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: Don't call me buddy. You're in the same room with 229 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: my girlfriend. 230 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: Get out, Get out. 231 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: That's unacceptable. She stays inside. 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: She's an indoor cat from now on. Yeah, I mean, 233 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't let her see other men. 234 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: It's gotta be shocking to, you know, see someone blossom 235 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: into this. If yeah, if they're seeing this, yeah, leave 236 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: me the room. The big frat guy also told my 237 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: girlfriend to be cool and went to give her a hug. 238 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: She hugged him back like it was no big deal. 239 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: My girlfriend was in pajamas, politely hugging this two hundred 240 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: pounds dude, and I was pissed. 241 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: Wait, does we'd have anything to do with it? 242 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: I suspect the neurodivergence here man. Potentially, there's like it's 243 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: just like the change. It's like it's like, oh, things 244 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: are changing. She's acting different, she looks. 245 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: Different, and it's like that's but that's we We made 246 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: the deal to stay the same forever, and everything needs 247 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: to be the same. 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: I even had her I would even say that it's neurodivergency. 249 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: I think it's just an eighteen year old guy, right, yeah, 250 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: coming into the world realizing that you're people are changing 251 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: and that your girlfriend is changing it and. 252 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: He wants to control it and he can't. 253 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: After they went away, my girlfriend stayed at the door 254 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: like I was supposed to leave too. She explained that 255 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: she needed to shower and figure out what kind of 256 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: day it was going to be before we could hang out. 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: I agreed to go wait for her at a coffee shop. 258 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: When she finally showed up for coffee, my girlfriend had 259 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: her hair in pigtails and was wearing a hoodie and 260 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: normal pants again like on New Year's She explained I 261 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: had freaked her out by acting so weird. She asked 262 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: why I would go looking for her and then creep 263 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: out on her friends like that. I was torn between 264 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: feeling I had nothing to apologize for, but wanting to 265 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: fight and not wanting to fight two doorsteps. 266 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: She's someone one of you needs to break up with 267 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: the other one of you's gotta bite them and break up. 268 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Stop? 269 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: Oh, this really stopped being the pawns on a chess 270 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: board that won't fight each other because they're not diagonal. 271 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: This is terrible. You guys both don't like this relationship? 272 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: All right? 273 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: We agreed to be better off if I went home 274 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: and cooled off. After that, I couldn't get her on 275 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: the phone until the next night. She sounded calmer and 276 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: more apologetic than We agreed that we were both busy 277 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: and stressed out, so it was important not to put 278 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: too much pressure on each other. What I want to 279 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: know is is this still a normal situation? If not, 280 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: am I the main problem? 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: Or is it she? Finally? 282 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: Should I continue to wait it out or just throw 283 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: in the towel? On the towel In a two year 284 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: relationship five plus years of friendship, she has been the 285 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: closest person in my life for a while now, so 286 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: I have no idea how to proceed. 287 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: Thanks for your input. 288 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Please break up. 289 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bought my fiance to the family party despite 290 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: my famous cousin's wishes. 291 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: Who's your cousin? 292 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: My cousin is very famous. Yes you have heard of him, 293 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: and no, I won't tell you who he is. We'll 294 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: call him Terry. Terry by the way, this comes from 295 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Xmas Hole one one one and if you want to 296 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime. 297 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: Soe about it. So we have family functions mainly for holidays. 298 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Terry likes for them to be only family so he 299 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: can be himself and get wasted and pass out on 300 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: the couch and share a Hollywood gossip with us. Otherwise, 301 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: he feels like he's being interviewed and having everyone talk 302 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: to him or want a picture, or he has to 303 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: be in promo mode. He said it's because he was 304 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: tired of having to meet strangers and not be able 305 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: to let loose. And there are some issues of the 306 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: partners taking pics of him or spreading gossip he's too 307 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: famous famous. I feel like that, honestly, you know that 308 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: could be a real issue. I hated this at first, 309 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: because I would be dating some chick and she would 310 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: want to get to meet him, and it's awkward to 311 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: tell them they can't come to family events and they 312 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: get mad and they never get to meet My tender 313 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: pick has a pick of me with Terry. But I 314 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: get it, So I was fine with it until this 315 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: year I began dating this chick. 316 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 6: They just date me for him, and then they're mad 317 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 6: that I can't show him. 318 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah him, Yeah, I mean kind of. I mean you 319 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: reflecting it too much. Also, I like what you I 320 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: feel like you say, like dating this chick, it just 321 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: sounds like you're you're you're a frat broo dating this 322 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: chick in August, couldn't bring her the Thanksgiving fine, But 323 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: when I walk in, I see another cousin. Danielle has 324 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: brought her boyfriend, Steve. They've been together for less than 325 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: a year. They got together over New Year's engaged on Halloween. 326 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Terry was fine with this because he's met Steve before 327 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: old family friend, even though I've been told that no 328 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: exceptions are allowed to his rule. Thanksgiving sucks because the 329 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: whole time I was mad that I once again was 330 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: allowed to bring my girlfriend my girlfriend consoled me after, 331 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: and I realized that she's my soulmate deep a freaking 332 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: soul bate. Terry didn't let me be about soulmate to Thanksgiving. 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago. I proposed and we got engaged. I 334 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: feel like he's like, I'm gonna show Terry, I'm gonna 335 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: be able to bring your next Thanksgiving. 336 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: That's I'm a little worried. This is only for Terry. 337 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: Exmus was out my aunt's and I'm a believer and 338 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: asked for forgiveness, not permission. So I brought my fiance 339 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: because she had nowhere else to go and I wanted 340 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: her to meet my family. We all walk into that 341 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: and then all heck breaks loose. Everyone was asking who 342 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: she was and scolding me about the rules, and Terry 343 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: flipped out. He was already buzzed and looked twenty pounds 344 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: heavier than he usually presents himself and started yelling at 345 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: me for doing this to him. He didn't seem excited 346 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: at all about my engagement or willing to introduce himself 347 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: to her. Okay, really quickly, there's a lot more to 348 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: the story. But who is the a hole op or 349 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Terry oh oh? 350 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 6: At the beginning of the story. I was like, hardcore. 351 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 7: I think, Op, Ye, if if you didn't get engaged 352 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 7: just to do this to Terry, than Terry is But 353 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 7: if you only sped this up for Terry, then you are. 354 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a little bit of me that feels that 355 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: he sped it up just to stick it to Terry. 356 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 7: That's what I feel like, in which case I think 357 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 7: Op would be the a hole a little bit. 358 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I mean it sounds like she's I 359 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: love how he's like. Yeah. She comforted me about not 360 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: being able to bring her to thanksgivings. Soul mate, that 361 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: girls my soulmate. 362 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 6: She was clearly fine with not coming soul mate. 363 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: Soul mate. Well, our grandma was telling Terry get over 364 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: it and asking to see the ring and saying she 365 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: wished she had gotten my fiance gift. So my grandma 366 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: was on my side, let's go, but Terry would still 367 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: argue with me and said I shouldn't be allowed at 368 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: any more events, and he ended up calling an uber. 369 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 6: Black ooh, just a regular uber and. 370 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: Leaving before we even ate. To top it all off, 371 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: my uncle, who has never even liked Terry, got upset 372 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: because apparently Terry has his secret Sanda, so he didn't 373 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: get a gift. So my uncle started blaming me for 374 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: ruining Christmas. I get there, Matt, But it was clear 375 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: there was an exception for fiances. And I'm embarrassed that 376 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: my family was so rude to her when I just 377 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: didn't want her to be alone on Christmas? Am I 378 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: the a hole? There's a lot more to this story. 379 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, by the end of that, Terry, Yeah, you were 380 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 7: pushing it there, buddy. 381 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Ope, he was the ale in the beginning. Terry was 382 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the a hole near the end, I think fiance should 383 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: be able to come. 384 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, but did it sound like that was when they 385 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 7: were finding out that she was his fiance? 386 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: What like they didn't show up to Christmas to be like, 387 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 6: by the. 388 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Way, I think I think the like they announced that 389 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: they were before Christmas. 390 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, I. 391 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Think they found out there. 392 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: That's kind of putting the lineback in of life. 393 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Queen Procrastination says communication. Yeah, 394 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think you shouldn't have surprised 395 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: the family with it. I think that's what happened. Ohp 396 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: surprised the family with this new person. Everyone's like who's 397 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: this new Person's like, it's my fiance, and they're like, well, 398 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: the kind of people. But I think I think if 399 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: it's your fiance, it's fine. But you should have tested. 400 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you should or she you should have announced. Well verdict, 401 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: everyone sucks. That's what we said. Well the commons. Samv 402 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: ninety one says, everyone's the a hole. You could have asked. 403 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: You could also not use your famous cousin as a 404 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: pick on Tinder. Op responds, well, my matches skyrocket when 405 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: I have a picture with them. 406 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 6: He gets all the chicks. 407 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Just trying to level the playing field on the app. 408 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: This is a guy. Mom of ninety one edit went 409 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: from ever the ale, You're the ale? Based on new information? 410 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Did the family know ahead of time about the engagement? Opie? 411 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: In response, I didn't tell them about the engagementcause I 412 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: knew they would be critical because my previous engagements engagements. 413 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 6: No, no, he totally did it for. 414 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Terry engagements did not end up working out Prairie Mountains 415 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: and says, how many times have you been engaged? OPI 416 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: twice before, once when I was nineteen and an idiot, 417 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: so that did work out, and then again later on 418 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: and I thought she was the one, but ended when 419 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: she said a story about my cousin to TMZ to 420 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: make a prick buck. Hence Terry's rule. Georgie Raisin, you're 421 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: the reason rousing. 422 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 6: You should have said that at the beginning. 423 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: I think people are just matching with you to me, Terry. 424 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: They're like, if if I date this guy long enough 425 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and get engaged, I will meet Terry. 426 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 6: Which is exactly why Terry has the rule. 427 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: Who is this guy? Who's Terry? Okay? Op He's the 428 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: A hole for sure? 429 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 430 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: Why am I so awesome? Nine says you're the a hole? 431 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: It sounds like this was the first meeting of a 432 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: fiance you have been with for a very few months. 433 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: Trying to compare to the other Kunsan's relationship is pointless, 434 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: you said to yourself. They have met Terry a few times, 435 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: basically you use his profile pick on tender. Then wonder 436 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: why he doesn't want fangirls trying to meet him at 437 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: family functions. You would rather ask for forgiveness than permission 438 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: to decide not to discuss at all. At what point 439 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: would you not beat the A hole? An Opie response. 440 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: If I had told them, they would have told me 441 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: not to come, or Terry would not have shown up 442 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: and everyone would be sad because he's the favorite and 443 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: my fiance isn't like my previous ones. She's definitely not 444 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: a fangirl and only asked a few times about getting 445 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: a pick with him A few times. 446 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: That's a fangirl a few times. 447 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: Dev Destroyer t X says, why would she need a 448 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: pick with your cousin? Op says she's a photographer model, 449 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: so it'd be good if she could take picks of him. 450 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: But it's not like a priority or anything. Just oh wow, 451 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: when I get to meet him, I'd love to get 452 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: a pick with all of us. The top guest who 453 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: the cousin is, Zanuzzi says most popular guests is Chris Evans. 454 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: Op mentioned superhero before he deleted the comment. Also Ope 455 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: being from Massachusetts and some other clues. Op deleted a 456 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: comment about how other people use dogs and babies to 457 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: get dates on apps and he uses picks with superheroes. Also, 458 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Opie denied that it's Chris Evans, which makes me think 459 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: it's Chris Evans. Well, it's definitely an actor who plays 460 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: a superhero who likes to do things with his family, Also, 461 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: the story leaked to TMZ was an incident where many 462 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: people close to cousin Terry was about, which tracks with 463 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: what was leaked about Chris Evans on TMZ a few 464 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: years back. Another thing leaked was some plot point about 465 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: a movie, which makes me think it was Marvel Movies. Also, 466 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Opie repeatedly denying that it's not Chris Evans just makes 467 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: me think it's Chris Evans. OPI hasn't responded too much 468 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: except to deny that it was not Chris Evans. Who knows? 469 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: It could also be Paul Rudd isn't he from Boston? 470 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 7: And also superhero who could Paul ant Man? 471 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: Am I missing them? I'm mixing those up. 472 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I think OPI is for sure an a hole for sure. 473 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: Well updates update nobody has correctly guessed who Terry is 474 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: and I won't respond to any more guesses. And I 475 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: don't use his picture to get girls. I literally have 476 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: a Riyah, so I have no issues in that department. 477 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: You said you were trying to make this playing field even. 478 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: Dude, Opie is so so shallow. 479 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: You also have a fiance. Yeah, why are you on Riyah? 480 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: I think you found her on Riya? 481 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: Maybe anymore. 482 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was just because that was hot, but that worked. 483 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: There's a doll irrelevant update. We're just gonna dive right 484 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: in twit. Nobody talked to me yesterday, but I found 485 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: out this morning that all is fine. Terry called me 486 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: to apologize for making a scene and congratulated me on 487 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: my engagement, and I accepted his apology. He also told me 488 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: he went back and visited with family yesterday and gave 489 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: my uncle his gift from Secret Sanna, so Christmas isn't 490 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: ruined for him. As for my fiance, she handed it 491 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: all really well, even though it was an awkward way 492 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to meet my family and my aunt made rude comments 493 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: about her outfit. She also had the idea that we 494 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: should have the family over for New Years to make 495 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: it up to them. So yeah, everybody was a bit dramatic, 496 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: but no harm was done. Final comments, Oh crumb cake 497 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: says the important thing right now? Did you apologize for 498 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: being a major a hole? Terry didn't owe you an apology. 499 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: The rules are optimally for his safety and you broke 500 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: them because you are being a selfish a hole. Did 501 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: you apologize because you're the one that owes him an apology? 502 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: And seriously get rid of that picture. Use of him 503 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: to get yourself laid. That's just gross and deleted said, 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: there is not a mixed response in the slightest The 505 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: response doesn't lean towards you're the a whole. Almost everyone 506 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: thinks you're the a whole. And those who don't think 507 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: that say, everyone's the a hole. Admit your mistake and 508 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Hopie has not admitted it. But and that is where 509 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: all that story ends. I want to skip the family 510 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: chip because my grandmother's reoccurring boyfriend will be there. 511 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 6: Grandma's got boyfriends. 512 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: I twenty female, have a grandma to seventy one female, 513 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: and recently I have been thrown into the deep end. 514 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: My grandfather passed away in twenty eighteen, leading my grandma 515 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: to eventually start to live in our rental cottage on 516 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: our property. By the way, this comes from delete. If 517 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: you want to spit your own stories, go to the 518 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: r slash okay storytime, sufferate it. So since his passing, 519 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: I've gone through my years of graduating high school and 520 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: becoming more of myself than just a child of the family. 521 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: In the early years, I used to talk to my 522 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: grandma all the time about my worries and doubts and 523 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: just general stuff. She would do the same when we 524 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: get along just fine. A fight between her and my 525 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: father fifty two male occurred about three years ago regarding 526 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: my little cousin, and it strained their relationship significantly, to 527 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: the point of no speaking to each other for months 528 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: on end until the dust eventually settled. I took her 529 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: side in that argument, and that was that. My father 530 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: never braided for me for it, and I only did 531 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: this because of how devastated it made my mom forty 532 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: nine female and the fights my mom and dad used 533 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: to have about her. After this, the family wasn't strained 534 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: for a while, but eventually it passed away down to civilness. 535 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: And I can't remember when my grandma began to cok 536 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: my patients, but it may have been around the time 537 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: I began university college. It's difficult for me to pinpoint 538 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: the things that happened. One such occasion, though I do remember, 539 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: is a week in which my parents had gone on 540 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: holiday and my grandma was placed in charge. I was 541 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: still under eighteen at this point. One night I had 542 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: mentioned to my little sister's Maxine sixteen female now and 543 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Christine eleven now making a surprise dinner for all my grandparents, 544 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: my grandma, and my paternal grandparents. Once my paternal grandparents arrived, 545 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: revealed this prize and made dinner. During this dinner, my 546 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: grandma sulked, barely spoke, and played with the food on 547 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: her plate the dinner that we made. A few hours afterwards, 548 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: my mom, ever, the enabler of her behavior, called me 549 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: to lecture me because my grandma felt underhanded and felt 550 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: cast aside because it was supposed to be just her 551 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: looking after us. What they made you all at dinner 552 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: and you feel you feel slighted? 553 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, what the heck? 554 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. In my first year of university, 555 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: I have at my current boyfriend, Braxton. He's the most kind, 556 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: loving and helpful man I have ever known. I love 557 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: him so much. Our first date was me attending his 558 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: family's Christmas Eve. That is a crazy first date. What 559 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: the heck? That's not normal, right, family, that's insane. You're insane, op, 560 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: But we love you. And he attended our family's Christmas Day. 561 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Wait for the first two days, but both of your families, 562 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: it's twenty four hours of Oh my god. It was 563 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: initially very awkward for my family. Yeah, to adjustment. After 564 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: a few months, he moved up to stay near me. Huh, 565 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: what is his relationship? This is when I truly began 566 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: to see my grandma in a different light. I barely 567 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: existed when Braxton was around, and he came by nearly 568 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: daily as he lived just down the street. She would 569 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: constantly have something for Braxen to fix or help her with. 570 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: Granny try to slide in her email didn't work, or 571 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: she had groceries. She would call Braxton to help. My 572 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Grandma would talk to him about his work, his studies, 573 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: how his family was doing, oh, while making weird jokes 574 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: and smiling at him a bit too widely. Oh, Grandma, 575 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Grandma shouldn't happen. I, on the other hand, barely got 576 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: a how are you before her attention was recaptured by Braxton. 577 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: Your grandma a guil though. Braxton and I at this 578 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: point figured she may be being too friendly, but there 579 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: isn't much we can do without being rude. I mean, Braxton, 580 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: I guess you got to sleep with her. You know 581 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: you don't want to roots. 582 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 6: We would want to offend Grandma. 583 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Row a lady a bone. What like ten years come 584 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: on girl, Girl got to eat. This behavior continued for 585 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: around a year. This my Grandma and I fined as 586 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: he barely spoke to one another. If not needed, I 587 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: picked up my sisters, would make dinner occasionally and studied. 588 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: When my grandma's knee was too sore for what you know, 589 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I wouldn't make a plan to fetch 590 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: my sisters when my grandma had already made plans. I 591 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: took on dinners as my mom was recovering from foot surgery. 592 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Then the new prospect arrived. His name was Ken, sixty 593 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: five male and it was part of our church, so 594 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: my mom and dad know him well. Initially, my grandma 595 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and Ken dated for two two months, but they broke 596 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: up soon after because my grandma never wanted anything serious 597 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: with him. Grandma is play in the field. This was 598 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: after he had attended our Christmas and New Year celebration. 599 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: During their dating, Ken would force hugs and act as 600 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: though he had been with my grandma for years. But 601 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: after their breakup, can you ever spoke a word to 602 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: any of us and basically ignored our existence completely at church, 603 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: We my sisters, myself and Braxton didn't think much of 604 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: it and forgot about it again. Well, my twenty first 605 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: birthday is coming up in June, and my mom and 606 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: dad had asked what I wanted to do. I'm not 607 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: a people person, so instead of a big party, I 608 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: asked if we could go to the coast as just 609 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: us a family, along with Braxton. My mom started by 610 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: agreeing and began to search for places to stay. A 611 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: few days later, she asked me to come sit with 612 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: her and said, Honey, I think we need to involve 613 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: your grandparents too. It's a special occasion, she said, showing 614 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: me places with six rooms instead of three. I had 615 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: specified previously that I did not want my grandparents and 616 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: grandma because I just wanted it to be my immediate 617 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: family attending. She eventually guilted me into making a booking 618 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: that allowed my grandparents to attend. I was quite upset 619 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: by this because I felt as though my opinion on 620 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: this was simply cast away. Still, I didn't bring it 621 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: back up again. Around a month ago, my grandma's sister 622 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: got engaged to be married. We were all ecstatic for her, 623 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: Your grandma's sister. Damn, all these people are getting married. Old. 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: A week went by, and then all of a sudden 625 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: she and Ken were dating once again. A groan rose 626 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: from all of us, but none of us said anything 627 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: about it because it wasn't our business. However, it would 628 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: soon become our business. As he popped up a family 629 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: dinner's family events and began to desperately act the role 630 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: of a member of the family. He barely spoke to 631 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: me or my sisters, but instead focused on my grandparents 632 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: and my parents when we came over and announced only 633 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: an hour or two before arriving. Even after a month 634 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: of dating, Braxton asked my grandma in a joking tone, 635 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: so when are you and Ken going to get together officially? 636 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: And without skipping a beat, my grandma my gas dramatically 637 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: and answered, not yet. I have to be one hundred 638 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: percent sure, while giggling like a schoolgirl. Honestly, that's cute. 639 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: That's cute, giggling like a school girl. During this month, 640 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I have been drilled to the brink of burnout you 641 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: and your grandma, as I write my exams from my 642 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: last year in the university. In a week, I have 643 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: barely slept. Grandma, Oh, I have no idea what I'm 644 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: studying and feel like I'm drowning it's always Grandma. The 645 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: only thing pushing me through this is the week away 646 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: with my family and the love of my life. Today 647 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I got back from the store and my mom sits 648 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: me down and says, Honey, I'm sorry for doing this. 649 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: It completely slipped my mind. Your grandma asked me a 650 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: few days ago if Ken can get his own accommodation 651 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: near us by the coast when we go, so he 652 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: can come with. She began, and I felt my stomach drop. 653 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: I said sure, before I knew what I had done. 654 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: She finished, and I could have thrown up. I begged 655 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: her not to allow it, and she said she will 656 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: see what she can do. However, this meant she actually 657 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: did nothing. When I asked her why she had not 658 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: fixed her mistake, she said, what if he already has 659 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: made a booking? Wait what I mean if you corrected earlier, 660 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: he probably didn't make a booking. It would be rude 661 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: to disinvite him now. And what would I say to 662 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: your grandma her boyfriend can't come because you don't want 663 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: him here. There's another relevant update, but let's discuss. Is 664 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: OP being too stringent about not letting Ken come on 665 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: this little vacate? 666 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 7: I mean we already didn't want the grandparents there, and 667 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 7: they're coming, So I don't see what the big deal is. 668 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 6: If Ken just comes to you keep Granny. 669 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: Off of Braxton. 670 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: That's true. 671 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 6: He moved away from that really quickly. 672 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: That's true. You want Ken is distracting. It's it's a 673 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: little like red thing while your granny's at ball, you know, 674 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: and you're brad you're going to use Ken to o 675 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: lay away from just piercing Pierson Braxton. 676 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 7: So I get the frustration of like she didn't want 677 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 7: them there, but. 678 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: Uh, but Opie goes on to second. I basically lost it. 679 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: I felt as though my feelings for a day, one 680 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: of my most special birthdays of my life, were being 681 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: discarded because it would hurt a man's in my grandma's 682 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: feelings if he wasn't allowed to intrude on a special 683 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: family occasion. I said that if he attended, I would 684 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: rather not go on the trip and I would have 685 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: my birthday at home. My mom and dad then sat 686 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: me down for a few minutes and did the classic 687 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: family is important. When I brought up how I already 688 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: had compromised my desire so that my grandparents and grandma 689 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: could come with us on this vacation. I was given 690 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: the they only have memories now and they just want 691 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: to be there. And at the end of the day, 692 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: you only have family. So am I the a hole? 693 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: We have some comments. What do you think is OPD 694 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: A hole? 695 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 7: I don't think you're certainly an a hole, but I 696 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 7: do think you're just gonna have to get over it. 697 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 6: And it's it's a bummer. 698 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: Uh kawawan not the ahle go with your boyfriend for 699 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: your twenty first reply, Yeah, I agree with this. Tell 700 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: your mom that as far as you are concerned, the 701 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: trip is off. They're welcome to go to the beach, 702 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: but you're not going. They couldn't respect your boundaries and 703 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: then really cross them by inviting ketalong. Just go away 704 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: with your boyfriend and enjoy some quiet solitude. Your parents 705 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: can pound sand. The blood of the covenant is thicker 706 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: than the water of the womb. But it's your job. 707 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: You grow a spine to stand up for yourself. You're 708 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: turning twenty one. It's time you don't have no one 709 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: to blame but yourself. And that's where that story ends. 710 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 6: I didn't realis she was turning twenty one. 711 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty one, it's a bit of a bigger one. 712 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one's a big one. I think, I mean, 713 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: I think you can. It's your birthday. You should be 714 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: able to invite who you want. Yeah, if your family's 715 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: paying for it and you want to go, like I think, 716 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, they have control a little bit over the present. 717 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: But if it's your birthday, you can do something else, 718 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: like on your actual birthday. Yeah, spend some time. But 719 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: also I recognize like they are controlling the money, so 720 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: they have a little bit more more control over what 721 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: happens with the vacation. John here, we're gonna get back 722 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: to this juicy story, but a quick three minute break 723 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: of ads from our sponsors. My future sister in law 724 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: claimed my family never our svped, but I'm the only one. 725 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 6: Seatless steal one of their seats. 726 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: My brother in law is getting married soon. My husband 727 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: is the best man, and our four year old is 728 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: the ring bearer. I'm a part time party planner, so 729 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: I've been helping plan a small luncheon for the bridal party, 730 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: immediate family, and a few vendors on the wedding day. 731 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: So I'm not exactly a fringe guest here. I'm main guest. 732 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,479 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Throwaway No Place fifty 733 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: eighth mdaight. If you want to some of your own stories, 734 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay Storytime. Sob so. The 735 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: VP line was a few weeks ago. I filled out 736 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: the online form and submitted it. The same day the 737 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: invitation came to the mail with my husband sitting right 738 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: there next to me. We are svped for the three 739 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: of us meet my husband and our son. Easyps right. 740 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: My brother in law's fiance sister in law reached out 741 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: today over text, saying not hey, I never saw your SVP, 742 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: just checking, but straight up you didn't respond, which is 743 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: frustrating on his own. But then she tells us that 744 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: while my husband and son have seats at the reception, 745 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: as they were in part of the original headcounts, I 746 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: do not. My husband was told I could come early 747 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: with him to set up the luncheon still and stay 748 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: for the ceremony, but that I would not have a 749 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: spot at the reception. Let me repeat, I'm married to 750 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: the best man, mother of the ring bearer, and I'm 751 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: helping with wedding day logistics, including connecting sister law with 752 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: some of my professional contacts and somehow decided I wouldn't 753 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: be coming excuse me, and she never followed up before 754 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: the RS repeat line. Just what. I'm torn between feeling hurt, 755 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: furious and just flabbergasted and used. Feeling used. At best, 756 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: this was a sloppy mistake and she's not owning. At worst, 757 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: it feels like appointed exclusion and stopping right there. Pointed 758 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: exclusion or sloppy excuse. 759 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 7: Oh I thought that could be a pointed exclusion? 760 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 6: How do you miss that? 761 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: How do you miss that? I feel I feel like 762 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a point exclusion. I feel like 763 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't feel I mean, I don't know how you 764 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: miss that, and how and. 765 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 7: How you don't check in, like, hey, your husband and 766 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 7: your son are going to be here, just wanting to 767 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 7: see why you're not coming. 768 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 6: Everything good? 769 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, you think it would be automatic too, since husband's 770 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 8: in the wedding, Yeah, and the son's in the wedding 771 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 8: or child's in the wedding ring bear, and it's like 772 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 8: automatic what? 773 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? At worst, I feel it's a get pointed exclusion. 774 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure which stings more. My husband is going 775 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: to handle the conversation with his brother to figure out 776 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: what is going on because I generally don't trust myself 777 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: to be polite and keep the peace. There was no 778 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: other drama leading up to this that I was aware of. 779 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: I have a good relationship with my in laws, so yeah, 780 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: this is totally out of left field for me and 781 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: my husband. I'd love to your thoughts, especially for people 782 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: who have gone through something similar. I don't typically touch 783 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: weddings with work, so this is all new territory for 784 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: me as a pseudo vendor guest. My husband wants to 785 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: reach out and talk to his brother first, but I'm 786 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: so tempted to reach out to my mother in law 787 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: before our usual meet up tomorrow to see if she 788 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: knows anything. And we got an edit from one of 789 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: the comments small update. Husband and brother in law are 790 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: talking now. Brother in law was not working today last 791 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: night and was helping father in law with something this evening. 792 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: When I called mother in law, she had brother in 793 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: law call husband right away. From what mother in law 794 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: and I can hear, we're snoopy. My husband was muted 795 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: on brother in law's phone and my contact was deleted. 796 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: Brother in law can't log into the wedding website, so 797 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: he can't check to see if there are rsvprs there. 798 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I want to become a fire 799 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: for myself. They get some popcorn as I watch a 800 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: mother in law pop off. We got another edit form 801 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: the comments. Okay, last update for the night. I am tied. 802 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: It'd have been overwhelmed by all of responses. I'm sorry 803 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: I haven't replied to them again. Thank you for your 804 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: advice general support. This is really weird and upsetting. So 805 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: my husband finally got a hold of brother in law 806 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: after I called mother in law. No one else knew 807 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: this was going on. While they were talking, brother in 808 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: law tried logging into their wedding website to see if 809 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: it was a mistake or mister understanding, but he couldn't 810 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: walk in, so he took her sister allowed to see 811 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: if she changed the password, and she just told him 812 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: to come home instead. That's weird. This set off three 813 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: alarm One. Brother in law ended the call with husband 814 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: to call sister in law about why she couldn't answer 815 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: simple question. Two mother in law popped off about how 816 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: dare that woman exclude op and three mother in law 817 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: and father in law popped off, and but her other 818 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: in law for already living with sister in law. They 819 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: are very religious and traditional and don't believe that a 820 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: couple should live together for marriage. Husband and I sympathize 821 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: with brother in law. Brother in law and sister in 822 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: law argued over the phone. Apparently she started claiming that 823 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: it was an unfortunate glitch, it was too late to 824 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: add another seat now. Then it was that we never jibed, 825 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: and it would be really bad if I went home early. 826 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: Plus I could take our son home with me because 827 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: he would be tired by then at five pm. This 828 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: woman does not know kids. Then it was I've always 829 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: been mean and excluding her from things, so it is 830 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 1: on purpose, even though she's never invited me to any 831 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: of the fun girly wedding events. At this point, my 832 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: husband and I are glued to my phone and we're 833 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: hearing yelling from all four of them until sister in 834 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: law hangs up. Brother in law is spending the night 835 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: at his parents and is unsure about the wedding. Now 836 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: we have now we're now entering call off the wedding territory. 837 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: He plans and going home tomorrow with husband going with 838 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: for moral support. I'll be going with hubby to my 839 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: in laws to hang out until we hear back about 840 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: the situation at the battlefront. Just to clarify something from 841 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: the original post, I did not plan everything for the wedding. 842 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: I offered to bring food for a small luncheon between 843 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: photos ten am and the ceremony four pm, as dinner 844 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: wasn't planned until six pm. It was going to be 845 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: a long day at the farm in the middle of nowhere. 846 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: I offered to do it to be nice, but also 847 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: to make sure no one is specifically a certain four 848 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: year old would be angry for the ceremony. Sister in 849 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: law also only used one of my vendor contacts, so 850 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: with things going south, a professionalation shouldn't really be impacted. 851 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: And we have a small update. But yeah, it seems 852 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: like it was. It was intentional spread flag, which I 853 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: understand why Brother in law is like, I don't know 854 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: why won't got married to the Yeah, we got an update. 855 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: Turns out the no seat for op issue was the 856 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: problem that broke brother in law's relationship and we're a 857 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: bit upset. Brother in law didn't talk to anyone about 858 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: this until it blew up. Behind the scenes, brother in 859 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: law and sister a lot were having arguments about their 860 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: future together. Most of these arguments centered around having kids. 861 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Early on, sister in law gave the impression that she 862 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: wanted children someday, but as they got more serious, she 863 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: started backtracking. A few months ago, brother in law realized 864 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: that it's very likely sister in law never wanted kids 865 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: but felt too invested in the relationship to leave. But 866 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: brother in law always imagined having a large family, so 867 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: this really shook him. On top of that, sister law 868 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: apparently had jealousy and insecurity issues for brother in law. 869 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: I've been her latest target, so sister law was jealous. 870 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 7: Wow of op backtracking about a lot, which started when 871 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 7: I turned down going to a manny petty with her. 872 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Why did I turn a down? Well, husband and son 873 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 1: had wrote a virus. Apparently I was icing her out 874 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: by not wanting to spread a gastro intestinal doom. Can 875 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: anyone please explain that logic to us? Lastly, sister in 876 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: law was apparently already floating the idea of disinviting our 877 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: son from the reception because he would have been the 878 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: only small child there. Brother in law shut that down immediately, 879 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: and mother in law slash father in law kept that 880 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: knowledge from us to spare our feelings ergo. Our lost 881 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: RSVP was not a software glitch, nor was it in oversight, 882 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: but rather a stupidly calculated move. Sister law was apparently 883 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: hoping one of two things would happen. Either I would 884 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: make a scene about being disinvited and would be seen 885 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: with the problem, or we would quietly accept our fate 886 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: and she would not have to deal with two undesirables 887 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: at a reception. With all this in mind, I can't 888 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: figure out why she would have messaged my husband instead 889 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: of me. Was she trying to cause more family drama? Again, 890 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: the logic is not logicing. There's a little bit more 891 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: of the story and we're going to go straight on 892 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: into it. Brother in law was already feeling some uncertainty 893 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: because of the shifting kids slash no kids conversation, but 894 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: the deliberate seating stunt gave him the last push and 895 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: clarity he needed. Brother in law told my husband it 896 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: was a level of manipulation and cruelty that he could 897 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: not overlook, so he ended things ask for the ring back. 898 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: Do you think brother in law was right to do that? 899 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yeah? 900 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 6: She had been lying about so much Between that. 901 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: And the kids. Kids, that's a big thing. That's a 902 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: big thing, even if she wasn't lying, and she just 903 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: like like kind of came to the realization that would 904 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: be a reason end of the relationship too. Yeah, no wedding, 905 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: no reception, just a super messy, emotionally heavy and expensive breakup. 906 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: And I feel so bad for brother in law. He's 907 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 1: going through so much heartache right now, but he deserves 908 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: a better partner. Hopefully sister in law can find a 909 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: family dynamic that doesn't feel like a never ending battlefield. 910 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: That's all for now. I'm still tired, I'm still flabbergasted, 911 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: but I'm also relieved this wedding arc is coming to 912 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: an end. We got some comments coming one still better 913 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: than finding out after the wedding through yes, Op, he responds, 914 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: so true. I wish she told us how sister in 915 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 1: law took the news. I'm surprised she didn't lash out 916 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,959 Speaker 1: at op for ruining her life another drama and comment too, 917 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: she's probably jealous of mother in law. No pea get 918 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: along and like each other. We're snoopy me up and comment. 919 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: Three children are one thing you can't compromise over. He 920 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: would have built up so much resentment, wanting kids while 921 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: all his family and friends are having the best outcome 922 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: for everyone in the long run, and comment four rather 923 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: than laugh, I was hurting now. But when he gets 924 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: with the right person who honors his values and it 925 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: is easy to live with, he will be extremely happy 926 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: to have gone through this. 927 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 9: My sister is treating me badly because of the things 928 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 9: that I cannot control. 929 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 3: If you can't control them, she can't get mad at you. 930 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 9: And Triger warning, this does mention miscarriage, so please get 931 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 9: on by if you don't want to listen to that. 932 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 9: Growing up, me and my sister, let's call her Sally, 933 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 9: used to be really close, which got better in our twenties. 934 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 9: Sally was even there and supported me through hard times. 935 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 9: I in turn was there for her and supported her 936 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 9: through everything that she went through as well. By the way, 937 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 9: this comes from Present Cicada sixty four to sixty nine, 938 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 9: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 939 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 9: to the r slush Okay Storytime Separreddit. I had thought 940 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 9: this had brought us so much closer together that we 941 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 9: were nearly insuperable, especially since I had moved back home. 942 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 3: Heck, we even gave each of our children our middle names. 943 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 3: We were that close. 944 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 9: Shortly after Sally was released from the hospital, she started 945 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 9: distancing from everyone. She constantly kept dropping her son off 946 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 9: with our mom so she could drink. I remember one 947 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 9: day clearly where I had overheard her telling our mom 948 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 9: she was off to drink again, and she had been 949 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 9: doing nothing but drinking because that's the only way that 950 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 9: she was able to deal with what she went through. 951 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 3: What did she go through? I would love to know, 952 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 3: but I'm also scared to find out and what happened. 953 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 9: I had spoken up and said, but Sally, that's not 954 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 9: the best solution for not only you, but Zero or Jack. 955 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 3: Zero especially needs you right now. He doesn't know what's 956 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 3: going on. 957 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 9: Sally had made some comments, so I suggested, if it 958 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 9: was a money issue thing, to go to this therapy 959 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 9: place because her insurance would cover it there. We both 960 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 9: had the same insurance. After this exchange, Sally distanced herself more. 961 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 9: Roughly a year and a half ago, I met my 962 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 9: now husband. Long story short, we did the Birds and 963 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 9: the Bees and got lucky. The very first night we 964 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 9: were alone and found out that we were expecting a 965 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 9: few weeks later, we had a discussion and talk where 966 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 9: because me and my family had lost so much the 967 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 9: previous year. We were going to keep it quiet and 968 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 9: not tell anyone until we got out of the danger. 969 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: So then Easter time rolled around, and I had. 970 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 9: This cute idea, since we were somewhat in the clear, 971 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 9: to announce it through an Easter card where we would 972 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 9: do our own custom scratch off where it says somebody 973 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 9: is excited to meet you. We had literally mailed out 974 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 9: everyone's card, even though some of them lived in the 975 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 9: same city, but not Sally's, because I wanted to hand 976 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 9: deliver it to her and tell her myself so. 977 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 3: That way I could be there for her. 978 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 9: I thought it would be better or easier coming from 979 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 9: me that way, considering everything she's been through. 980 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 3: She immediately snatched it out of my hand, didn't. 981 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 9: Even give me a chance to talk, so that she 982 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 9: needed to get on the road to our dads. So 983 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 9: I asked her could she look at it before she 984 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 9: went to his house and call me so that we 985 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 9: could talk about it. Sally never called me, and I 986 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 9: didn't realize that that would be the last time that 987 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 9: I would ever truly talk to her. Next thing, I know, 988 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 9: my phone is being blown up by my mom saying 989 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 9: to prepare myself. Because of course my dad didn't listen. 990 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 9: I called him prior and asked him not to say 991 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 9: anything unless she brought it up, and he ruined it 992 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 9: by bombarding her with what her thoughts were on my news. 993 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 9: Mom even mentioned Sally got even more or upset after 994 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 9: she talked to her because Mom had told her everything too. 995 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 9: I was really confused about what was going on and 996 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 9: what she was talking about, so I asked my mom, 997 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 9: what on earth did she mean. I knew that she 998 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 9: was probably going to be upset and trying my mess 999 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 9: to lessen the blow the best I could, but nothing 1000 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 9: prepared being for what Mom told me. 1001 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: Next. 1002 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 3: Mom goes, well. 1003 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 9: You know, of course, the do date, and I was like, 1004 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 9: what about it? It's just a date and for all 1005 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 9: we know, it could change in a couple of weeks. 1006 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 9: Once we had the anatomy scan, That's where I was 1007 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 9: informed and told that that was Sally's DU date and 1008 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 9: that's when her daughter was supposed to be born the 1009 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 9: year prior. My mouth literally dropped open and I couldn't 1010 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 9: believe my ears. So I said, your kid. Mom goes, no, honey, 1011 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 9: that was Sally's do date. 1012 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 3: Too. 1013 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 9: I had no idea and no clue because Sally never 1014 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 9: actually told me her d date. I never knew when 1015 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 9: the baby she lost was due. I didn't even put 1016 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 9: that in the card. So I told mom, I wish 1017 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 9: she hadn't said anything and let me be the one 1018 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 9: to tell her. So I typed up this long heartfelt 1019 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 9: message apologizing because she wouldn't answer her phone, saying that 1020 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 9: I had no clue and I understood where she was 1021 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 9: coming from and how she felt that if she needed time, 1022 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 9: I understood and would let her come to me when 1023 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 9: she was ready. Days weeks, months go by with no 1024 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 9: communication with her at all. Anytime we were nearby, she'd 1025 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 9: leave or close herself off in another room. She legit 1026 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 9: avoided me, like I was the plague. I had word 1027 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 9: getting back to me that she was pissed and upset 1028 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 9: that not only did I get pregnant, but I had 1029 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 9: to do it a year later and I had to. 1030 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: Get her due date. B Oh, do you not understand how? What? 1031 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1032 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,760 Speaker 3: She didn't even know, and she's not like you can't 1033 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 3: pick your due date? Yeah, Like that's not how that works. 1034 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 9: She just either wanted to get pregnant or maybe sounded 1035 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,280 Speaker 9: like it was kind of an accident, so like that's 1036 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 9: she wasn't doing this like maliciously to try to get 1037 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 9: back at you with this. Also, yeah, pregnancies are a 1038 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 9: long time, so there's gonna be like a lot of 1039 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 9: time in the year that those pregnancies are gonna like 1040 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 9: overlap with like exact anniversary stuff like. 1041 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I. 1042 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 9: Was given the impression that I had pretty much taken 1043 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,479 Speaker 9: her babe from her in a way. 1044 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 3: I tried my hardest and best. 1045 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 9: Not to take it personally, because I knew exactly what 1046 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 9: she was going through and I knew how hard this 1047 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 9: was for her. But at the same time, I was 1048 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 9: really hurt and upset because my best friend had abandoned me. 1049 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 9: The day comes for the anatomy scan, where we were 1050 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 9: informed that we were having a boy, as well as 1051 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 9: being told another potential due date was coming, but that 1052 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 9: they were keeping the later one to give him time 1053 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 9: to cook. 1054 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 3: I thought this would solve and fix everything. 1055 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 9: How foolish of me to think that I contacted this 1056 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 9: lady on Etsy that made this adorable Disney themed gender reveal. 1057 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 9: Once it was finished and completed, we sent it to everyone. 1058 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 9: I personally messaged my sister with another heartfelt message letting 1059 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 9: her know the new du date. 1060 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 3: I left out the fact that doctors weren't. 1061 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 9: Switching it, though, hoping that it could help prepare things 1062 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 9: or at least start the process. I continued to be 1063 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 9: avoided and ignored. Around summertime, I started having pregnancy issues 1064 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 9: so bad to the point that I ended up having 1065 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 9: to quit my job or risk my pregnancy. Not even 1066 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 9: a week or two after I quit, I went into 1067 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 9: labor the following Saturday, only to still be in labor 1068 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 9: that Monday. It all started Saturday, I was cramping and 1069 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 9: really hurting, so I decided to take a shower to 1070 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 9: see if it could help ease my pain, and then 1071 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 9: ended up deciding to go in due to heavy flow 1072 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 9: that was so bad that I thought I was losing 1073 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 9: the baby. Mom was a huge help took my other 1074 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 9: kid so I had nothing to worry about. 1075 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: At some point, my. 1076 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 9: Water breaks slowly, but labor keeps starting and stopping. Well, 1077 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 9: Monday comes around still no baby, and labor at that 1078 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 9: point had completely stopped and I was sitting at a 1079 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 9: six long story short I ended up having a c section, 1080 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 9: which I had never experienced before. All my other births 1081 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 9: were natural. Everything was super scary and happening so fast, 1082 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 9: not to mention six weeks way too soon. 1083 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,439 Speaker 3: Oh wow, a long time. 1084 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, our baby ends up and then I see you 1085 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 9: and I end up in the hospital for an additional 1086 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 9: four days on top of the three that I already had. 1087 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 9: When our baby was finally released, we decided to surprise 1088 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 9: everyone because it was sooner than expected. I had no 1089 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 9: idea she was at my mom's house until I was 1090 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 9: at the front door having him taken from me by 1091 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 9: her holding him bawling. I didn't mind too terribly much 1092 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,240 Speaker 9: because I thought it might help her, and I thought 1093 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 9: maybe she would finally start talking to me, so we 1094 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 9: allowed it. 1095 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 3: But still even after that, she continued the ignoring. 1096 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 9: We went up to my grandma's for her ninety sixth 1097 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 9: birthday back in March this year, where we didn't realize 1098 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 9: they were all going to be there. She didn't nor 1099 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,479 Speaker 9: Jack really interacted with us until a little later during 1100 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 9: the day. Me and my husband went looking for our 1101 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 9: other two, only to run some mac dad into them 1102 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 9: in the garage. I wish we never went in because 1103 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 9: we caught them smoking it up and thanks to us 1104 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 9: going in, it was now wafting all over my grandma's house. 1105 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 9: Now that she was medicated so to speak, she again 1106 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 9: took our son and actually talked to us. It was 1107 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 9: almost as if it were old times. Time comes around 1108 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 9: for all of us to start heading home. When she 1109 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 9: asked our dad about filling her tank, he said yeah, 1110 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 9: of course, and offered to fill ours too since we 1111 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 9: managed to make it too. My daughter was super happy 1112 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 9: and asked if she could ride with Sally to the 1113 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 9: gas station, to which she said yes until Jack caught 1114 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 9: wind and put it to an end. This broke my 1115 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 9: daughter's heart, and when she looked up, Sally was out 1116 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 9: her vehicle in it, promising and swearing that she'll make 1117 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 9: it up to her and that she'll give her hugs 1118 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 9: after they filled it up. Next thing I know, I'm 1119 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 9: hearing my daughter bawling in the back seat, so I 1120 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 9: ask what's wrong, only to realize they left. She was 1121 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 9: asking why Sally lied and if she loved her anymore. 1122 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is so sad. Pali stop this. 1123 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 9: My dad asked what was wrong, so I explained the 1124 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 9: whole situation and told him not to worry about it. 1125 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 9: So should have known that he would have called her, 1126 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 9: because as we were going down the highway, she calls, 1127 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 9: apologizing and telling her that she's sorry, but ends up 1128 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 9: hanging up because we didn't really have anything to say. 1129 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 9: Back in April, my oldest had a bus incident where 1130 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 9: his life was threatened. 1131 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,280 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 1132 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 9: We of course reported to the school, who does an 1133 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 9: investigation on the whole situation. A few days go by 1134 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 9: when we get a call saying that we'd be happy 1135 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 9: to know that everything was found to be true, the 1136 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 9: kid is being taken care of and that they handled 1137 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 9: everything over tooth cops to handle it legally. Of course, 1138 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 9: I called to update my mom, who goes, that's wonderful 1139 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 9: and that Sally will be thrilled to know that, which 1140 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 9: w s piqued my interest, so I asked why where 1141 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,240 Speaker 9: my mom informs me that Sally said that my oldest 1142 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 9: is a. 1143 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 3: Liar, so he couldn't be telling the truth. 1144 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 9: Also, for the record, this entire time, she wasn't just ignoring, avoiding, 1145 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 9: and mistreating me, but also my husband, whom she never 1146 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 9: actually truly met or got to know, as well as 1147 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 9: my oldest. Sally interacted with and talked with my daughter some, 1148 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 9: but she even got some of it. 1149 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 3: This was the last straw for me. 1150 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 9: I immediately blocked and deleted her on everything, took myself 1151 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 9: out of everything connected to her. As time passed, I've 1152 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 9: avoided and steered away from conversations that involved If anyone 1153 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 9: asks me questions, I informed them that I've cut her 1154 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 9: out and don't know or care. I informed my parents 1155 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 9: to stop letting her know things about my family and 1156 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 9: that we were completely done with her, as well as 1157 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 9: let them know that I don't want to know anything 1158 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 9: about them either. It's one thing to treat me terribly 1159 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 9: and horribly, but it's another to turn that towards my children. 1160 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 9: My parents keep telling me to hang in there. She'll 1161 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 9: come around eventually, but I'm like, it'll be too late 1162 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 9: by the because I'm done. 1163 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 3: So am I the a hole for cutting her and 1164 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 3: her family out? I don't think you're the a hole 1165 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: for a needing. I think at a certain point you 1166 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 3: have to do it to protect your own mental health, 1167 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 3: especially because she's Yeah, she's getting attacking you for things 1168 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,919 Speaker 3: that you can't control. But I do think I would 1169 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 3: have a little bit more of an open mind on 1170 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 3: letting her come back into your life. Yeah, should she 1171 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 3: improve herself and apologize and actually try to be back 1172 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 3: in your life exactly. But that is the end of 1173 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: that story. We've got another one coming right. 1174 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam og host. We're going get back to 1175 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: these delectable stories. But here's three minutes of ads from 1176 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: our sponsors to help support the show. 1177 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 3: I want my sister out of my grandmother's house because 1178 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 3: she's taking advantage of her. Don't do that, Grandma. My sister, 1179 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 3: thirty three year old Grace is the oldest of eight siblings, 1180 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 3: with me being one of the youngest at twenty two 1181 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 3: as of this writing. From the time I was young, 1182 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 3: I knew exactly that my oldest sister's family is. Relationship 1183 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 3: with my sisters, not my brother's was not good. In fact, 1184 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 3: it was getting worse and worse since she had entered 1185 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 3: high school and gone to New Jersey for a season. 1186 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Union mel And if 1187 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 3: you want to spit your own stories, go to the 1188 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 3: r slash. Okay, storytime separated. When my mother was alive, 1189 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 3: she would tell us about the number of things Grace 1190 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 3: did towards my other two sisters, Letty twenty three and 1191 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 3: Alison thirty. It was constant to hear about her messing 1192 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 3: with their boyfriends since they were teenagers, getting into fights. 1193 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 3: In short, a probathletic person that my mom could never correct, 1194 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: even her methods weren't the most appropriate. I understand that 1195 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 3: since she turned seventeen, her life went completely off the 1196 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 3: rails to a point of no return, and before she 1197 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 3: turned eighteen, she ran off with the guy and they 1198 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: got married. Of course, my mom was upset, but she 1199 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 3: couldn't say anything. Grace is a stubborn and proud person, 1200 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 3: but also extremely jealous. I have vague memories of my 1201 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 3: three sisters and one brother leaving home so young, long 1202 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 3: before they turned twenty. The details behind that I will 1203 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 3: give it a separate update or post. But as time 1204 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 3: went on and as I became a teenager, they wanted 1205 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 3: to connect with my mother, but Grace prevented it. She 1206 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 3: would put conflicts between my siblings and my mother, like 1207 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 3: wanting to be the only daughter who deserved Grace did 1208 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 3: her best to separate my siblings from my mother. Even 1209 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 3: when my sister Letty passed away at the age of 1210 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 3: twenty three in an atrocious way. She was jealous that 1211 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 3: my mother mourned her and went into a deep depression. 1212 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 3: My other siblings eventually distanced themselves from my mother, and 1213 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 3: only my two younger sisters, Wendy seventeen and Mary fifteen, 1214 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 3: and I remained attached to our mother. Years passed between 1215 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 3: conflicts I had with Grace, her divorce, several failed relationships, 1216 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 3: and arguments with my mother, who was now normal. My mother, 1217 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: of course, had gotten used to it, who was the 1218 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: only older daughter who spoke to her and did not 1219 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 3: want to lose contact with her. More time passed, and 1220 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 3: my mother passed away of a heart attack in twenty 1221 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 3: twenty oh My sister abandoned us a few months later, 1222 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 3: and after living with the biological father of my younger sister, 1223 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 3: we were punted out and my grandmother took us in 1224 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 3: at the beginning of twenty twenty two. At that time, 1225 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 3: I was already studying at the university in another city, 1226 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 3: and because of the distance, I could not see my 1227 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 3: grandmother so often only on vacations. My aunts and uncles, 1228 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what went through their minds, decided that 1229 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 3: my older sister should come back into our lives to 1230 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 3: take care of my grandmother, without taking into consideration that 1231 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 3: Wendy was helping out. But in these years it has 1232 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 3: been the opposite. Brace is treated like a queen with 1233 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: her daughters because my grandmother doesn't know how to say no. 1234 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: My grandmother is very innocent and so noble hearted. She 1235 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: has worn herself out for years taking care of her. Now, 1236 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 3: what I came to the subpredate for is what has 1237 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 3: been going on for months. My grandmother noticed that lately 1238 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 3: several of her belongings had gone missing. Among those clothes, junk, jewelry, groceries. 1239 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 3: She put pieces together and realized that Race's oldest daughter 1240 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 3: and Grace herself, had been stealing from her. My grandmother 1241 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 3: at that moment realized it got sick because of that 1242 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: anger that had caused her. Plus she realized when Zoo, 1243 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 3: Grace's oldest daughter had stolen one thousand dollars of her 1244 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 3: saving when she realized that her briefcase was somewhere else, 1245 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 3: Oh my good. 1246 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 4: Wow. 1247 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 3: To find out that these people like your family members, 1248 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 3: who you've been letting live with you, you know, I 1249 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 3: mean in part to take care of the grandmother, I think, 1250 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 3: but still yeahs have been stealing from you. Is yeah, terrible. 1251 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 3: My grandmother put up with it, but she hid her 1252 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 3: things better, but it was still useless. Every week something 1253 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 3: was stolen from her. Now, three days ago, my grandmother 1254 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 3: called me in the middle of a class in dismay. 1255 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 3: Grace had stolen a tablecloth with very strong sentimental value. 1256 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 3: It was one of the last things that my grandmother 1257 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 3: had given her for me. It was the last straw. 1258 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 3: My sister was biting the hand that fed her, something 1259 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 3: that not even her new husband gave her. Because yes, 1260 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 3: Grace remarried that same day. I told her that I 1261 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 3: would see how to throw Grace out of the house 1262 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 3: at any cost. It was either that or Grace would 1263 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 3: steal the papers of the house and throw my grandmother out. 1264 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: And I want to avoid it before it's too late. 1265 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 3: But there is a huge detail. Several of my aunts 1266 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 3: and uncles would be against punting her out of the house. 1267 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 3: They would even punt my sister Wendy out before punting 1268 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 3: Grace out because they still think she's a good person. 1269 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 3: I still don't know what to do to punt her 1270 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 3: out and make my aunts and uncles realize what kind 1271 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 3: of person Grace really is. So am I the ale 1272 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 3: for wanting to punt my older sister out of my 1273 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 3: grandmother's house. There is an update, folks. 1274 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 9: But what do you think, Well, I don't think so 1275 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 9: she's stealing, he's stealing. Yeah, yeah, that is more than 1276 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 9: enough reason just by itself. 1277 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. Yeah, so no, definitely not get 1278 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 3: her out of there. In short, my oldest sister, Grace 1279 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: is leaving tomorrow, but she made a scene to affect 1280 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 3: my little sister and me and above all, my grandmother. Honestly, 1281 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm happy in one part, but in another, they are 1282 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 3: drama is making an unnecessary snowball. For context, I skipped 1283 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 3: college for a while to come see my grandma, and 1284 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 3: Grace seems to have used my time here to start 1285 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 3: turning me against my uncles. Honestly, it's the least of it. 1286 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 3: You get used to being gossiped about. But in the 1287 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 3: middle of that, Grace started saying that my grandmother was 1288 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 3: covering for me. I didn't do anything. I mean, all 1289 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 3: she did was steel. So I don't think Grace gets 1290 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 3: to say complain about what someone's doing. 1291 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1292 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a complete lie. I've worn myself out in 1293 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 3: several ways trying to do everything, even stopping talking to 1294 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 3: my fiance. Yes, I didn't mention this before. But I've 1295 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 3: been engaged for two years. But that's the least of it. 1296 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 3: The point is that I've done my housework, accompanied my 1297 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 3: grandmother to the bank and to doctor's appointments, while Grace 1298 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 3: was sick and stayed in her room the whole time 1299 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I was at my grandmother's house. I can count on 1300 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 3: my fingers and say that it's been the last forty days. 1301 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 3: She's only out with housework five times. And he's also 1302 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 3: cared little about the health of his youngest daughter, who 1303 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 3: has reached the point where she has developed anemia. 1304 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 1305 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 3: Things started to get worse last week when my uncle 1306 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: Fidel called me out of nowhere. He deserves to be 1307 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 3: shown his real name anyway. He said in the phone 1308 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 3: call that I was a lazy person, that I had 1309 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 3: the right to be at home without doing anything, that 1310 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 3: she was a kept woman, and so on, with a 1311 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 3: hatred that could even be her heard on the other 1312 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 3: side of the line. I was confused because at that 1313 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 3: moment I was finishing folding the clothes, and he didn't 1314 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 3: even give me a chance to respond. Days past and 1315 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 3: my aunt and her husband arrived to visit my grandmother, 1316 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 3: and as soon as they saw me, they swept me 1317 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 3: with their gaze and talked the entire time. They stayed 1318 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 3: with Grace. You know where that's going. She has talked 1319 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 3: to them and said the same crap. I spoke to 1320 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 3: my fiance that same day in secret, since Grace seemed 1321 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 3: to have ears everywhere. Fortunately, if they had punted me 1322 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 3: out of my grandmother's house, I already had a house 1323 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 3: in my name. Now let's get to today. The day 1324 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 3: seemed calm. I had woken up early because I had 1325 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 3: end of semester meetings with my teachers since the morning. 1326 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 3: The afternoon started to look bad. My sisters started packing 1327 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 3: her things dramatically in garbage bags, stopped talking to us, 1328 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 3: and left at intervals, and the moment the same uncles 1329 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 3: from the last minute arrived, she asked to speak with 1330 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 3: them in the presence of my grandmother and cried dramatically 1331 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 3: that she would not be in a house where they 1332 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 3: would speak ill of her, discredit her, accuser of being 1333 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,600 Speaker 3: lazy and an irresponsible mother. Grace stopped crying as soon 1334 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 3: as my uncles agreed with her, and they started telling 1335 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 3: my grandmother things that even made her feel sick, but 1336 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: she never cried. They left, and my grandmother didn't want 1337 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 3: to eat dinner anymore. It's hard because it's like it 1338 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 3: feels like the kind of person that you can't just 1339 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 3: like tell them to stop. 1340 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, like it's as much as you might 1341 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 9: try to kind of convince them of like how they're 1342 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 9: taking how negative. 1343 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 3: Their actions are like are to other people. Yeah, they're 1344 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 3: just gonna keep They're not gonna get it. She's scared. Yeah, 1345 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 3: Grace does not care, not at all. He wants everyone 1346 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: to be on her side. Mm hmm, so that she 1347 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 3: continues stealing and being awful. Yeah, it's and ope, he's 1348 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 3: the only one who's like, uh, I'm gonna put a 1349 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 3: stop to that. And now this is like when I'm 1350 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 3: going to ruin your reputation. But that's not all. Two 1351 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 3: hours ago, Grace started making calls and campaigning to discredit 1352 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 3: my grandmother to make them stop giving her money and 1353 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 3: make her look like a good person. I called my fiance, 1354 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 3: since his family is influential in the fields of commerce, 1355 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 3: government and local affairs, I wanted to pay her back 1356 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 3: in kind, not only to Grace, but also to the 1357 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 3: uncles who believed in Grace. I'll probably come back with 1358 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 3: a new update in a few months, but it all 1359 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 3: depends on how it ends, because I'm also looking into 1360 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 3: doing it legally with his lawyers and folks. That's the 1361 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 3: end of that story. Wow, good luck, Ope, good luck. 1362 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 3: I hope that you can, you know, be there for 1363 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 3: your grandmother and also make sure that you know you 1364 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 3: get your own peace of mind. Yeah, but yeah, that 1365 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 3: is the end of that story. So we're going to 1366 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 3: get into the next one in just a moment. I 1367 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 3: was excluded from being a bridesmaid in my brother's wedding. 1368 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 3: It made me upset, bad brother, So I'm willing to 1369 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 3: accept my fate here if I'm in the wrong. For 1370 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 3: a bit of context, I twenty nine female, am the 1371 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 3: eldest of my siblings. My brother Mark twenty six, have 1372 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 3: the same mom and dad. We have always been super close, 1373 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 3: and when I had my son back in twenty sixteen, 1374 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 3: I asked him to be his godfather. We were always 1375 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 3: inseparable and protective of one another. Our parents split when 1376 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 3: I was six and Mark was three. 1377 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 9: By the way, this from Pearly Shells and if you 1378 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 9: want to submit your own stories, go to the our 1379 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 9: last showcase storytime et scept Breddit so Mom remarried and 1380 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 9: had our brothers Jake now nineteen and Josh seventeen, and 1381 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 9: our sister Ella thirteen with our stepdad. Mark and I 1382 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 9: always spent more time together for obvious reasons. Our bio 1383 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 9: dad would take us on vacations, we would spend Christmas 1384 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 9: and different occasions together, et cetera. We still had a 1385 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,440 Speaker 9: great relationship with our siblings, who we never referred to 1386 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 9: as step siblings no matter what, we were simply brothers 1387 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 9: and sisters. There have never been any issues with any 1388 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 9: of our relationships. Mark and I were just always considered 1389 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 9: the older two and did a lot more together given 1390 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,919 Speaker 9: our parents divorce. Fast forward to last August, my brother 1391 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 9: proposed to his now fiance, Jay, twenty five, female who 1392 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 9: I just adore. She's perfect for my brother and they 1393 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 9: compliment each other well. My brother made a comment on 1394 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 9: the video call that I would have quote bridesmaide duties 1395 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 9: to help Jay, to which Jade said that she was 1396 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,440 Speaker 9: so excited and that I could help with hair, et cetera, 1397 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 9: as I am a hairstylist. Cut to the engagement party, 1398 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 9: both family and were in attendance. My mom, stepdad, our 1399 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,960 Speaker 9: bio dad, and all of my siblings too. My son 1400 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 9: was too young to attend, so he was at his 1401 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 9: grandma's that night. 1402 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 3: At some point in the. 1403 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 9: Evening, Mark and Jade came out with boxes for the 1404 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 9: bridle and groom parties. Both my younger brothers were the 1405 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 9: best man, my younger sister was going to be a bridesmaid, 1406 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 9: and two of Jade's friends one is bridesmaid and one 1407 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 9: is the maid of honor. They approached me last with 1408 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 9: a gift and asked if I would give it to 1409 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 9: my son and ask if he would be their ring bear. 1410 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 9: Of course I said yes, that was such a beautiful idea. 1411 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 9: Then my mom and bio dad both came to me 1412 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 9: asking where my box was to be a bridesmaid, to 1413 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 9: which I replied I didn't receive one. Both our parents 1414 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,479 Speaker 9: were upset about this, as they said that they thought 1415 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 9: it wasn't nice that all of my siblings were going 1416 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 9: to have a part in my brother's big day except 1417 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 9: for me. I haven't said anything to my brother as 1418 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 9: we have never had any disputes over anything, barring fighting 1419 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 9: over the TV remote. 1420 01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 3: As kids, so I don't want to upset him. 1421 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 9: Maybe he thought that by having my son be a 1422 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 9: part of his wedding, seeing as he is his godson. 1423 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 3: That that would be why a few mutual friends of 1424 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 3: ours exit me that following day and asked the same thing. 1425 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 3: Was I not asked to be a part of it? 1426 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 9: That is really when I started overthinking, as one of 1427 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 9: them said that when they come to have their wedding 1428 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 9: pictures of the bridal party and groom party with the parents, 1429 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 9: I will be the only one not in either party. 1430 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 9: I'm so confused, and I don't want to cause any drama. 1431 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 9: I just want my brother to be happy. So am 1432 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 9: I the A hole? And there is an edit. Mark 1433 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 9: was a groomsman at my wedding and Jade was a bridesmaid. 1434 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Also. 1435 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 9: I'm not sure if this makes any odds, as I 1436 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 9: truly do understand that it's up to them who they choose. 1437 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 9: From a lot of comments, I really didn't think about 1438 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:34,640 Speaker 9: it that much until I started getting a lot of 1439 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 9: questions from family and friends. 1440 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 3: And there is an update. But do we think that 1441 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 3: she is the A hole for any of this? No, 1442 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 3: you haven't done anything yet. No, yeah, I think not 1443 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 3: at all. You're not going to do the A hole 1444 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 3: if you bring this up like you can just post 1445 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 3: it as a simple question, just like, Hey, I thought 1446 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 3: I was going to be a part of your wedding. 1447 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 3: I was like, did I do something? 1448 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 5: You know? 1449 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is there any way I could help out? 1450 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 9: Like? 1451 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,560 Speaker 3: What can I do? 1452 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 9: I am midread of the comments under the post, and 1453 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 9: my brother calls to my house to see myself and 1454 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 9: my son. And this isn't unusual, as he would call 1455 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 9: in the past every couple of weeks. He doesn't live 1456 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 9: overly far from me. We sat and had our usual catchup, 1457 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 9: and we have always been quite good at realizing when 1458 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 9: something is up with one another, so I must have 1459 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,799 Speaker 9: been giving off a vibe as he noticed. 1460 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 3: He asked was I okay? 1461 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 9: And I was very honest but approached it delicately as 1462 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 9: the last thing I want is to cause any issues 1463 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 9: between us. Before I could get too deep into the conversation, 1464 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 9: he stopped me and said that this was a conversation 1465 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 9: him and Jade had a lot and a few arguments 1466 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 9: over having me as a bridesmaid, as he just assumed 1467 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 9: that I would be. Something I maybe should have mentioned 1468 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 9: is that Jade is an only child. My brother told 1469 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 9: me that he feels that sometimes he got the feeling 1470 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 9: that she was jealous of our relationship, but that they 1471 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 9: never discussed that. Around ten years ago, our grandmother passed away, 1472 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 9: which was our dad's mom, and my brother was a teenager, 1473 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 9: and we both found that her This impacted my brother greatly, 1474 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 9: as she was like a second mother to us both 1475 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 9: and from this awful situation, and we leaned on each 1476 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 9: other for everything while we managed that horrible period of 1477 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 9: grief during which he hadn't been with Jade that long 1478 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,719 Speaker 9: and did push her away slightly. 1479 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,719 Speaker 3: While dealing with it all, he said when. 1480 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 9: They were deciding bridle and groom parties that Jade wanted 1481 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 9: equal numbers on both sides, as in, my brother has 1482 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 9: our two younger brothers and his friend, and Jade has 1483 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 9: her two friends and our younger sister. Then my son 1484 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 9: as a ring bear, and Jade's maid of honor daughter 1485 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 9: as flower girl. He explained that he said to Jade 1486 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 9: that he would have wanted me to be upstanding with 1487 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 9: him as a groom's maid if I was not a bridesmaid, 1488 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 9: which is not something I've heard of much, if I'm honest, 1489 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 9: and when it would be the morning of the wedding, 1490 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 9: that he would want me in the room with him 1491 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 9: and my son, also with my other brothers and my dad. 1492 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,879 Speaker 3: Jade said that that was nothing personal. 1493 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 9: Now whether that is true, I don't know, but I 1494 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 9: feel kind of odd about it, but there really hasn't 1495 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 9: been any issues with any of us. 1496 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 3: A lot of you in the comments were correct. 1497 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,839 Speaker 9: Jade also told Mark that it would be less stressful 1498 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 9: for me if I were to attend as a guest, 1499 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 9: as my son would be the ring bear. My brother 1500 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 9: it seemed very upset over this situation as he saw 1501 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 9: having all of his siblings involved in his wedding. He 1502 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,679 Speaker 9: said that the topic was never resolved and they haven't 1503 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 9: spoken much on it, even though he apologized for how 1504 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 9: the engagement party went down and said that Jade hadn't 1505 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,919 Speaker 9: made him aware of the whole thing with the boxes 1506 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 9: and he was caught off guard and embarrassed. He didn't 1507 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 9: know how to approach this with me as he doesn't 1508 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 9: feel like it's been resolved in terms of me having 1509 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 9: a place in their wedding, but it was left between 1510 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,400 Speaker 9: us that no matter what, I'll be there on his 1511 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 9: day to support him and to be honest, regardless of 1512 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,559 Speaker 9: me being a guest, I will be where I feel 1513 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 9: I belong in the room the morning of the wedding 1514 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,759 Speaker 9: with my brother. I'm not going to cause any drama 1515 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 9: or make their day about me. But I feel like 1516 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 9: I've gotten a lot. 1517 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 3: Of clarity from this conversation. But we do have a 1518 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 3: little bit more. 1519 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,560 Speaker 9: We hugged it out and I told him that I 1520 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 9: just want happiness for him, and if there is any 1521 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 9: issue on Jade's behalf in relation to me, I would 1522 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 9: gladly sit down with her, which he even said that 1523 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,560 Speaker 9: there shouldn't be. And he doesn't understand it, as she 1524 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 9: keeps reiterating that it's honestly nothing personal. 1525 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 3: Adores both me and my son. But now I'm quite stubborn. 1526 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 9: So even if she asked me to be a bridesmaid, 1527 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 9: I don't think I would want to be now now 1528 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,560 Speaker 9: that I know all of this. 1529 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 3: Does that make me the a hole? 1530 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 9: Oh say, that's a hypothetical scenario they still have asked you? Yeah, exactly, 1531 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 9: I don't. I definitely don't think so. 1532 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Be like if I didn't if I didn't say yes 1533 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 3: to being asked to be a bridesmaid after the fact, Yeah, 1534 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 3: on a pity bridesmaid would the ale for rejecting no? 1535 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? It's like if you finally come around to it 1536 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 9: and you're like, okay with me being a part of 1537 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,639 Speaker 9: the bridal party or the groom's party, Like, I'm gonna 1538 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 9: choose the groom. 1539 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I wear a suit. I don't not 1540 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,919 Speaker 3: being on your side exactly exactly. 1541 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 9: On the bright side, I get to pick my own 1542 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 9: dress and not have the stress of planning any parties. 1543 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 9: Oh and they told him, under no circumstances, am I 1544 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 9: doing bridle hair? Yeah, my mom's taking my son home 1545 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 9: the night of the wedding so that me and my 1546 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,879 Speaker 9: hobby will be enjoying the open bar cheers. 1547 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 3: And that is the end of that story. Very fair, 1548 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 3: Very fair. Don't offer your services for someone who doesn't 1549 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 3: appreciate you absolutely how it goes. 1550 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, could you imagine if she's still like asking. 1551 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 3: For that, even if she's like, like, you're not going 1552 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 3: to be part of the party, But although I do 1553 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 3: need someone to do my hair, Yeah, like to do 1554 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 3: like for insult to injury, add insult to injury. Yeah, 1555 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 3: to add insult to injury. 1556 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 9: You can't be a bridesmaid, but you can do all 1557 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 9: of the bridesmaid's hair and be there while everyone is 1558 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 9: so excited and getting ready and taking pictures together. 1559 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 3: Rudal, that's rude, that'd be terrible. Oh my goodness. But 1560 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 3: that is the end of that story and the end 1561 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 3: of that episode. So if you love us, make sure 1562 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,639 Speaker 3: to subscribe. We love you and see it at all