Speaker 1: You're listening to Joja Sua Now with me Jojo Siwa
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Speaker 1: Now we're apparently in Australia today. Just kidding. I'm still American.
Speaker 1: One day I'll be Australian and that'd be sick. Anyways, Hi,
Speaker 1: welcome back. This is Jojasua Now hosted by me Jojo
Speaker 1: Sewall where we talk about the past, talk about the President,
Speaker 1: we talk about the future. You will only know what
Speaker 1: I mean if you watched episode one two. I don't
Speaker 1: know which episode I started. Past, President, Future, it doesn't matter. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Today we are doing a blast from the past. I
Speaker 1: am so excited about my guest today. This person has
Speaker 1: been my best friend since I was nine years old
Speaker 1: is when we met, so for the last eleven years,
Speaker 1: which is actually insane. This person has been with me
Speaker 1: pretty much through it all. We've survived a lot together.
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to welcome Klannie Hilliker to Jojasua. Now. Klana, Hi,
Speaker 1: jud Jo, I'm so excited to be here. You're so
Speaker 1: excited to be you. I love coming to your house.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite because I never know what it's gonna
Speaker 1: look like I was gonna say, my house loves coming
Speaker 1: to you, but then I was like, that doesn't really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't really it makes sense. No, not at all.
Speaker 1: It's fine, And.
Speaker 2: I'm just really sad because you won't take me in
Speaker 2: a ride in the Lambo.
Speaker 1: I will, I will. If I didn't have a solo
Speaker 1: podcast after this, you know, I would be you would
Speaker 1: be in the Lambo obviously, naturally we'll take it after
Speaker 1: all right, all right, there we go, there we go. Oh, Klawnie,
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing good. We've had a wild dude.
Speaker 1: We for the last three days have been none stop.
Speaker 2: I slept from eight pm to ten am today and
Speaker 2: it is now now I'm here.
Speaker 1: LACKI I know you probably didn't no from like I
Speaker 1: slept from like two to eight. I'm on like a
Speaker 1: cute six hours ac Ever, since I did Special Forces,
Speaker 1: my sleeping is very messed up. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: I've been watching and I remember when you told me
Speaker 2: you were going to do that, and I was like, Jojo,
Speaker 2: you're the most insane person. I would never do that
Speaker 2: in my life, But watching it has been really awesome,
Speaker 2: and that was like, I feel like one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things you've ever done.
Speaker 1: You know, it's for sure one of my favorite projects
Speaker 1: I've ever done. It's the hardest by far, but favorite
Speaker 1: for sure also that far. Anyways, for the last three days,
Speaker 1: Klanie and I have been filming. We're doing a Dance
Speaker 1: Mom's Reunion. Lifetime is doing a Dance Mom's Reunion. Over
Speaker 1: All original producers and the cast is me, Kilanie Page Brook,
Speaker 1: Chloe Kindle, and then a few of our moms. Christy
Speaker 1: wasn't able to make it, but she really wanted to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. She facetimed a lot and
Speaker 1: then Kelly, Jill, Kira, Klanie's mom, and my mom Jess
Speaker 1: are all a part of the reunion. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: be I'll be straight up and honesty. They asked us
Speaker 1: to not talk about which cast is doing it or
Speaker 1: which cast isn't doing it, but I feel like it's
Speaker 1: just been so obvious on social media.
Speaker 2: We posted a photo yah the day that we were there,
Speaker 2: of all the people that were there, so it's like, you.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, So I think that is just kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know what, like it's all right, we'll
Speaker 1: put out there who was there, but we in the
Speaker 1: last three days have gone down so many memory lanes
Speaker 1: with this Dance Salms reunion, I think the world is
Speaker 1: going to be very interested. I as a dance MS fan,
Speaker 1: I mean was interested in what it was like. It
Speaker 1: was not what I expected it to be, but I know,
Speaker 1: like we.
Speaker 2: Talked about a lot of things and we got really
Speaker 2: deep with a lot of things.
Speaker 1: It felt super deep. Everything felt super super deep. It
Speaker 1: was a big therapy session, literally, and I really didn't
Speaker 1: think it was going to be like that. No, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I thought it was gonna be like lighthearted,
Speaker 1: but it was like but it felt good, Like it
Speaker 1: didn't feel negative. It didn't feel like anyone was like
Speaker 1: having to like relive the past. It was more like
Speaker 1: we were getting to clarified things that may have not
Speaker 1: clarified when we were kids.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you especially don't really know that
Speaker 2: many other people.
Speaker 1: That was then going into it. I only knew Colonie
Speaker 1: and Kendall. I'd never met Page Brook and Chloe, and
Speaker 1: so it was like, what am I getting into.
Speaker 2: Everybody's on social media's always like I can't believe that
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: Jojo and Page whenever.
Speaker 2: But we were all big on the like we all
Speaker 2: had like such a big we just don't know each
Speaker 2: other personally. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I saw comments that were like, Jojo, how does it
Speaker 1: feel being in the same room as Chloe after you
Speaker 1: shaded her online? I was like, first of all, I've
Speaker 1: never shateed Chloe. I shaded her mom Christy Christy, and like,
Speaker 1: I will stand by what I said to Christy. Did
Speaker 1: I say it into body of a tone? One hundred percent?
Speaker 1: But I was standing up for Gia and like, I
Speaker 1: will stand by that statement.
Speaker 2: But and we talked about some of those We taught
Speaker 2: a lot of things that you will be shocked to
Speaker 2: hear on the show. It got really deep, but I
Speaker 2: think a lot to it. We've never as like the kids.
Speaker 2: We didn't speak that much on the show or get
Speaker 2: to kind of talk to each other.
Speaker 1: Her moment to talk, she got her moment. Now, I
Speaker 1: was I was talking.
Speaker 2: I never really talk and I you know me, I
Speaker 2: I just like am a very like anxious person. I
Speaker 2: don't like to make anybody upset. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 2: never really get to talk. But I feel like I.
Speaker 1: Really you really got to go in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like to say how I felt for the
Speaker 2: first it was good. Yeah, it was really good. And
Speaker 2: Jojo really stood by my side through a lot of it,
Speaker 2: sat by each We sat by each other the whole time.
Speaker 1: Thank god. CLONIEA and I sat by each other. At first,
Speaker 1: we weren't, and I was like, absolutely not. Put the
Speaker 1: chairs by each other, like, put the chairs out. They're like,
Speaker 1: you're together. Yeah, okay, we're gonna be a lot. And
Speaker 1: we started feeling each other's heart beats. It was more
Speaker 1: so for.
Speaker 2: Colawging for me because I'm such an anxious person at
Speaker 2: my what's my heart rate?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we were tracking her heart rate and it
Speaker 1: was fun and then I made her feel mine and
Speaker 1: then she followed mine, and that we we we were good.
Speaker 1: We were good at each other.
Speaker 2: That's like the most anxious girl thing that could ever be.
Speaker 2: I'm constantly like this.
Speaker 1: Like just like feeling it to make sure it's still there.
Speaker 2: It's a little high right now, but it's okay.
Speaker 1: You'll be fine. You have no reason to be anxious.
Speaker 1: You are in a safe Oh no, I'm not anxious.
Speaker 1: We're just having fun. Yeah, we are having a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Oh my god, Okay, let's go, let's go back.
Speaker 1: So au DC I feel like we never talk about that.
Speaker 1: We never talk about it, but like we always talk
Speaker 1: about it, like we never actually get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually know each other from au DC. I
Speaker 2: don't know if a ton of people know that. We
Speaker 2: were on au DC First, which is Appy's Ultimate Dance Competition,
Speaker 2: and we basically lived together. Our rooms were like connecting, like.
Speaker 1: And we always just had the door open, like we.
Speaker 2: Never shut the door, even when we were going to sleep,
Speaker 2: we never shut shut the door.
Speaker 1: We're just all chill.
Speaker 2: Whenever Jojo walked I think I was in first, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was in first and Jojo walked in and I
Speaker 2: told her that we're best friends, so our moms have
Speaker 2: to be best friends. And we told our moms that
Speaker 2: we're like.
Speaker 1: We're gonna best friend so you guys have to be
Speaker 1: best friend from the first day. And it was just
Speaker 1: like okay. And then I think that actually probably too
Speaker 1: helped our parents because they now being an adult, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what would you do in that situation? So if to
Speaker 1: a picture of like we were both moms and then
Speaker 1: our two kids came up, Jo just like you do
Speaker 1: have to be friends, we'd be like, well, okay, I
Speaker 1: want your name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also too, you didn't know a single person
Speaker 2: like when you oh, well you did, I knew one.
Speaker 1: I knew Kaylee mckaylee. But we didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't know anybody. So like walking in, our parents
Speaker 2: also have no friends either. It's a very kind of
Speaker 2: lonely experience when you walk in, like that's so and
Speaker 2: it's so cutthroat.
Speaker 1: Everyone's there for one thing, and so it's even lonelier
Speaker 1: because you know, even if you become a family like
Speaker 1: with Special Forces, you know, we were all able to
Speaker 1: become a family because it was everyone leaves at their
Speaker 1: own will. But this is like someone's going home if
Speaker 1: you're not the best, and so it was super cutthroat,
Speaker 1: like you think someone's your friend and they're not, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I think that was what
Speaker 1: was different about us, is like we truly were each
Speaker 1: other's friends. Yeah, Firse, nobody liked us. I feel like.
Speaker 2: Show we were the youngest and we were definitely like
Speaker 2: the most like crazy going.
Speaker 1: We were there for a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were having like a good time always and we.
Speaker 1: Were the age under tweenagers like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we were annoying once you hit thirteen and fourteen
Speaker 1: you want to be cool, And I think you were
Speaker 1: maybe eleven or twelve and I was nine, and so
Speaker 1: it was like, look a nine and twelve year old
Speaker 1: or nine and eleven year old are gonna be there
Speaker 1: for a good time. Yeah, we're just gonna laugh, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have fun, they're gonna play games, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: into toys. Still like yeah, but then the twelve and
Speaker 1: thirteen year old and the fourteen year old are too cool,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think we were able to really
Speaker 1: have each other and that was that was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so much fun.
Speaker 2: I will never forget Whenever we walked in with our
Speaker 2: fake Levtons, we thought they.
Speaker 1: Were so cool. We bought fake Levetons and we walked
Speaker 1: in and we thought we were the shit.
Speaker 2: We were like, we had matching Leutonts and they were
Speaker 2: quite obviously fake.
Speaker 1: They did not look like a for sure. Oh, but
Speaker 1: everyone thought they were real. At least we thought they
Speaker 1: thought they were.
Speaker 2: Real at least so we thought we were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we just got our new Louis, Like, we're so cool.
Speaker 1: I remember when we were like, we're gonna be insta famous. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I kept saying when we because that's when Instagram first became.
Speaker 1: It was when Instagram first started, and like the goal
Speaker 1: was to be insta famous and make it to the
Speaker 1: pop page. Yeah, I remember when you could get to
Speaker 1: the pop page and then like you when you were
Speaker 1: on the pop page and that people would screen shot
Speaker 1: if you're on their pop page. Like, remember was that?
Speaker 2: Remember when you told me that I was annoying?
Speaker 1: I would tell you that still today, Like I love
Speaker 1: you to death, but like, well you're annoying too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why you're my sister.
Speaker 2: Literally, but that clip is just so funny because I
Speaker 2: forget what did you say?
Speaker 1: So there's this So what happened was Colonia got eliminated
Speaker 1: and then she got brought back the next day, and
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 2: Which is the most traumatic, one of the most traumatic
Speaker 2: things of my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine. That was cannot imagine. They didn't
Speaker 1: what's the story. They didn't tell you that you were
Speaker 1: coming back, right, They were like, you're gonna come to
Speaker 1: your soul.
Speaker 2: So what it was is that Brian, our producer, Yeah,
Speaker 2: did not like my mom because my mom shocker shocker.
Speaker 2: He he loves my mom now, but she just didn't
Speaker 2: cause any drama.
Speaker 1: She wasn't very dramatic.
Speaker 2: And he loved me because I was a good dancer
Speaker 2: and Abby and Abby loved me god DC like I
Speaker 2: was Abby's everything you. Yeah, no, for sure, but just
Speaker 2: like especially then, so it didn't really cause me drama.
Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, Abby loves me, and my mom
Speaker 2: doesn't yell, so it was like, yeah, there's no story.
Speaker 2: I had no story. So Brian wanted to kick me off,
Speaker 2: and you could tell Abby was crying because she knew
Speaker 2: she had to kick me off, but.
Speaker 1: She obviously didn't want to.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to kick me off, and they wouldn't
Speaker 2: let her use I think this is what it was.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let her use the callback card that night.
Speaker 2: That night she needed like she literally after the show,
Speaker 2: she was bawling to Brian, like bring her back?
Speaker 1: What can I do to bring her back?
Speaker 2: Like Colonie needs to be on the show, Like I
Speaker 2: remember hugging her, and she's like, I'm gonna see you again,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna fight for you right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went home.
Speaker 2: I wish she yeah, like she I mean, I always
Speaker 2: say that, I've said it a thousand times over. She
Speaker 2: is the reason that I have my career because she
Speaker 2: loved me so much and she fought for me because
Speaker 2: nobody else wanted me. There no producers, nobody behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: which those are the people.
Speaker 1: That control it, control their show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she really fought for me to be there.
Speaker 2: But they sent me to a hotel. So we fully
Speaker 2: packed up, went to a hotel, stayed at our hotel.
Speaker 1: Mind you, with au DC, they did not tell you
Speaker 1: how long you were going to be there for. It
Speaker 1: could be I think up to like ten weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like you could go home after they went.
Speaker 1: So it was packed clothes and dance wearing. You can't
Speaker 1: rewear anything, yeah, for twelve weeks or ten weeks. And
Speaker 1: so like you had, I mean we had suitcases, so
Speaker 1: much soul and then you bought shit too, and then
Speaker 1: like for our apartment, you had by cleaning supplies and
Speaker 1: you had to take all that, like I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a wreck.
Speaker 2: It was pretty crazy. But with a food truck, oh,
Speaker 2: we always had that food truck.
Speaker 1: It was really good. There was this breakfast food truck
Speaker 1: was so good tomatoes. Every day your mom would get
Speaker 1: a blt no like b no l like you're doing
Speaker 1: a tomatoes sandwich or something. So the French toast, my
Speaker 1: mom would always get French TOAs good, so good. I
Speaker 1: don't remember what I got back in the day, but
Speaker 1: I just like remember that being so it was so fun.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. Back to you.
Speaker 2: But we stay in a hotel and I remember bawling
Speaker 2: my eyeballs out all night because we think we're getting
Speaker 2: on a flight the next day. And you know how
Speaker 2: whenever you get kicked off, you do your interview right
Speaker 2: after you go to the hotel, you.
Speaker 1: Go home right away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and my mom was like, I want to
Speaker 2: go home right now. So my mom was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rent a car and we're going to go home.
Speaker 2: And they were like, no, you can't go home. You
Speaker 2: can't go home. They were like, we need you for
Speaker 2: interview in the morning, and we were like, oh, nobody
Speaker 2: does interviews in the morning.
Speaker 1: That's not a thing.
Speaker 2: So then we kind of were just like, what's going on,
Speaker 2: and this is really weird.
Speaker 1: This is really weird.
Speaker 2: And we did our interviews in the morning and they
Speaker 2: were like, we need you on stage and we were
Speaker 2: like what and why that's and you know, every time
Speaker 2: there was a callback card. It was used that night
Speaker 2: that night, Yeah, it wasn't used the next day. So
Speaker 2: then I came in and then I got the callback
Speaker 2: card the next day. But I'm pretty sure that's because
Speaker 2: Abby literally had a fight for me all night long.
Speaker 1: To the network. Actually, she probably had to go above
Speaker 1: Brian and go to the network. So long a story short,
Speaker 1: like the the production pyramid is like the cast, then
Speaker 1: the production, then the producers, then the network. So network
Speaker 1: always has final say yeah, but there's also such thing
Speaker 1: called the credential card. And I didn't learn about the
Speaker 1: credential card until I was on tour.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, And I was gonna say, I don't even
Speaker 2: know what that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my my tour manager actually taught me about it,
Speaker 1: and he was like, Jojo, your face is the one
Speaker 1: on the credential. You have the credential card. Whatever you
Speaker 1: say can go because we can do the show without
Speaker 1: anyone else, but we cannot do it without you. And
Speaker 1: so I think Abby kind of had to pull her
Speaker 1: credential card. It is her show. Is Abby's also Deal's conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's her name. If she says I am not showing
Speaker 1: up unless Colonie is back. They have to give her
Speaker 1: what she wants.
Speaker 2: It's called the credentials, which I wouldn't be shocked if,
Speaker 2: like that's literally what she did because she loved me
Speaker 2: so much and she wanted me there. Yeah, so then
Speaker 2: that's how I ended up coming back. But then now
Speaker 2: say the quote, so anyways, I'm back.
Speaker 1: So Colonie's back. She comes back in, and I was
Speaker 1: like so excited to let Colonie's back. I love her now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Honestly, she can kind of get
Speaker 1: really annoying, but I'm still cheesier something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, because we were like sisters, I would go in
Speaker 2: her room every single day, every single morning, every single.
Speaker 1: Morning, and I would sit on her feet, stood on
Speaker 1: my feet. She would steal my blanket, yeah, and like
Speaker 1: try to wake her up. She would try to wake
Speaker 1: me up. She would talk to my mom and I
Speaker 1: would just like no, I was not never having it.
Speaker 1: But she was like a sister to me, and you
Speaker 1: still are like a sister for me. We were feeling
Speaker 1: the dance Mom's reunion and this was the funniest moment
Speaker 1: to me. Kendall sat in my chair because we were
Speaker 1: taking a break and I think Jill came in and
Speaker 1: sat in Kendle's chairs, and Kendle sat in my chair,
Speaker 1: and I sat in Colonnie's chair because Colonie was using
Speaker 1: the mushroom. Colonnie comes back and how she's walking back.
Speaker 1: She gets about ten steps away. I get up out
Speaker 1: of her chair and I turn around someway she can
Speaker 1: sit in her chair. She just walks in.
Speaker 2: And said I didn't even like I wasn't even like, oh,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: She just like got up and I just like.
Speaker 2: Sat down and got my phone.
Speaker 1: She'd get you a thing twice and I just was like,
Speaker 1: oh my hell, like I am the little sister. It's
Speaker 1: like my little sister, because I know if I was
Speaker 1: sitting there, You're like get out of my chair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just got up immediately.
Speaker 2: I like looked at you and just gave you like
Speaker 2: the death there, and you would.
Speaker 1: Have just like gotten up. Yeah, So she got up.
Speaker 2: Anyways, we didn't have to deal with the all that
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I was talking to my gro group Kalani's gonna do
Speaker 1: my gro group XOMG Pops podcast later today. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna be actually released by the time
Speaker 1: this is released, so go listen to that. My gro
Speaker 1: group Xomji Pop. They have their own podcast. It is adorable. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Kalani is gonna be You're gonna be their first guest. Actually,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Sure. So they were chatting yesterday about,
Speaker 1: you know, how they're gonna rearrange a set for you
Speaker 1: to be in there, like they're they're so excited to
Speaker 1: have you. But I told them, I was like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to have a fun talk with her
Speaker 1: because how I'm your guys's older sister. I'm her younger sister. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like, we're gonna have y'all will be
Speaker 1: able to have like a fun dynamic because we really
Speaker 1: do have that for sure, sister like bond.
Speaker 2: No, I'm excited to meet them because I teach dance
Speaker 2: now and all my little girls, they were like Xomegi
Speaker 2: Pop for Halloween.
Speaker 1: Stop. They're like obsessed. Stop.
Speaker 2: So they're all gonna love that I'm doing this. They
Speaker 2: all love you, but they love Xomegi Pop too. You know,
Speaker 2: you know you're not older, so that's like the six
Speaker 2: seven year olds are obsessed with that.
Speaker 1: I freaking love it. So my gratitude alarmful. For right now.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you right now.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for you right now because we don't get
Speaker 2: to spend this much time together.
Speaker 1: So I need to come.
Speaker 2: I need to start coming to La more and just
Speaker 2: like stay with you.
Speaker 1: Just just like once, so we usually been here, We
Speaker 1: got the jojo beds, perfect, can't wait. This is exactly
Speaker 1: my vibe. Yeah, there's nothing to like about Colonia and
Speaker 1: I is. We were polar opposites, couldn't be any more opposite,
Speaker 1: but it just works. And like I even noticed, like
Speaker 1: I noticed, I noticed this when the reunion, right, I
Speaker 1: noticed that, like you, this is I think this will
Speaker 1: really put into perspective our relationship for people. And then
Speaker 1: we'll get into more of your life and dance moms
Speaker 1: in your life now and care about Lauia. We'll get
Speaker 1: into all the things. But I really want people to
Speaker 1: understand our dynamic. We're doing the Dance Momster union and
Speaker 1: I feel like you are friends with everybody, right, Like
Speaker 1: if everyone's hanging out and I'm over somewhere, like you
Speaker 1: will hang out with everybody, right, and like that's your vibe.
Speaker 1: You'll be chill with everybody, You'll hang out, You'll be
Speaker 1: you'll be fun friends whatever, but then when it comes
Speaker 1: time for you to like need someone, I'm your need
Speaker 1: someone personally, you know what I mean, even like on
Speaker 1: the show, like you would always hang out with Maddie
Speaker 1: with Kindle and like, but then I remember, like when
Speaker 1: you would need someone, they were never your I need someone, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't does that make sense? Like I think
Speaker 2: it's just our personalities. You're fine with like being by yourself.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it. And I'm just
Speaker 2: like everybody person. I feel like I talk to everybody.
Speaker 2: I like to be friends with everybody. But when it
Speaker 2: comes down to the end of it, I'm like Jojo,
Speaker 2: I got you. We just have like some sort of connection,
Speaker 2: even with your mom too. I know your mom, like
Speaker 2: you know how like.
Speaker 1: You like don't hang out with your mom, but then
Speaker 1: when you need someone, you go to your mom, and
Speaker 1: you know your mom has you. Yeah, That's how our
Speaker 1: relationship is. It's like, no, we don't need to hang out.
Speaker 1: We don't even but like if I need someone, you
Speaker 1: are my phone.
Speaker 2: Especially even just in life, Like I feel like we
Speaker 2: could not talk for two years, but it's like as
Speaker 2: soon as we see each other, it's like, okay, nothing
Speaker 2: nothing changes.
Speaker 1: It's like back to normal, back to normal. Were the
Speaker 1: same humans we always were, like we know each other,
Speaker 1: we got each other. Oh, Kilani, I just love you,
Speaker 1: I really do. I just apore to you. We're on
Speaker 1: Dance Moms. You're living your life when you're on Dance Moms.
Speaker 1: When I just say, dance Moms, what's your like? Where
Speaker 1: does your mind go? But what's what's give me? Like?
Speaker 1: Give me Kilane.
Speaker 2: In Dance Moms, I would say I definitely was a favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I will. I would say I was a favorite.
Speaker 2: Obviously drama, but ultimately just a ton of fun in
Speaker 2: my childhood. That's how I like to explain it. I
Speaker 2: think that we don't give it enough credit of being
Speaker 2: so much fun, and I wish sometimes I would have
Speaker 2: appreciated it it's had been more when I was in it,
Speaker 2: because I just don't think that I even at the moment,
Speaker 2: which also I think makes it what it is. But
Speaker 2: even at the moment, I just didn't understand, like how
Speaker 2: massive it was, Yeah, how massive it was.
Speaker 1: Sometimes projects are better when you don't know, because then
Speaker 1: you don't put the pressure on yourself to make it big,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm in the start of this massive project
Speaker 1: right now. I kind of told you all about it
Speaker 1: the other day. Yeah, and like truthfully, like I don't
Speaker 1: really know much about it. I've never seen the movie
Speaker 1: that it's based on. Yeah, Like, but maybe that's better
Speaker 1: because then I'm going into it. About that pressure, I'm
Speaker 1: like it has to live up to this.
Speaker 2: I think that that's what Dance Pumps was is we
Speaker 2: didn't give ourselves the pressure to be this big show.
Speaker 2: It's almost like low key most of us didn't care.
Speaker 1: No quite actually, like we were just like actually there
Speaker 1: competing every single week and cameras were following us like
Speaker 1: it wasn't all it was. It was never like we
Speaker 1: were doing that for the show. It was like even
Speaker 1: if the cameras were to cut, like I feel like
Speaker 1: we still would have been doing that. Like no, literally crazy,
Speaker 1: we were just so much. We are so ourselves I
Speaker 1: feel as the girl, and it was so real it
Speaker 1: was it couldn't. I don't know why people always are
Speaker 1: like it's scripted. I'm like, it's not. You have literally
Speaker 1: how you can't even write the stuff back empty chair
Speaker 1: to a solo, no one.
Speaker 2: Want to thought about that's literally the things that people
Speaker 2: say are real.
Speaker 1: Get your figure out of my face, girls out the room.
Speaker 1: Girl that never a writer is not that smart to
Speaker 1: think of that just can.
Speaker 2: Mean people need to know that every show has somewhat
Speaker 2: of a production, because sure you can't just throw people
Speaker 2: in a room and be like, okay make TV. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: there have to be you know, or if somebody hears something,
Speaker 2: be like, okay, bring that back up again.
Speaker 1: And the things dance Forms too, is that yes, not scripted.
Speaker 1: They would they would have their week lined up. You know,
Speaker 1: every every reality show has their week lined up. But
Speaker 1: it will say, Dance Worms is really good at just
Speaker 1: going with it. If we started like the week that
Speaker 1: I had to do it with Kindle is a perfect example.
Speaker 1: All the sudden, Kindle doesn't want to do the jojo
Speaker 1: do the duo with jojo.
Speaker 2: That's hysterical. Why did she want to do the doing
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 1: Because she wanted to do with Maddie. Oh it was
Speaker 1: like she she was very pissed and Maddie was just
Speaker 1: doing I think it was when she was doing Austin
Speaker 1: and Alley or something. She was gone. Whenever she was
Speaker 1: she was going to be back for the competition. She
Speaker 1: was just gonna have to learn it on Friday, which
Speaker 1: Maddie could have done easily, of course, but I was
Speaker 1: just filling in for her. And then Kendall was like,
Speaker 1: but I don't even want to learn it with Jojo,
Speaker 1: Like the part of the fun of a duo was
Speaker 1: like learning.
Speaker 2: I'm actually so sad we never had a duo on
Speaker 2: dance moment.
Speaker 1: It's a rip off. We at least got our do.
Speaker 2: On a Yeah, we we only had one duo. It
Speaker 2: was so funny. They just never put us together. No,
Speaker 2: but we were best friends.
Speaker 1: We were best but they would never put us together.
Speaker 1: But maybe it's because they knew that, Like it would
Speaker 1: have caused nothing and.
Speaker 2: Would have caused nothing. There was nothing between us, like
Speaker 2: our moms loved each other. Yeah, they only occasionally ever fought,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't really it was just more like we're
Speaker 2: they would let something bug them that they would normally
Speaker 2: not even give a shit about it.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it wasn't our parents.
Speaker 2: Fights weren't meaning yeahful fights. But we had one one
Speaker 2: duo on au DC and it was the Vampire One
Speaker 2: and it was so iconic.
Speaker 1: It's so iconic, and I feel like people.
Speaker 2: Don't even know about it, and it makes me really
Speaker 2: sad because that's our only jo together.
Speaker 1: Ana's iconic. It was so good and it was choreographed
Speaker 1: by such an iconic choreographer. Is amazing. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: done everything in the world. She's she's a billion of
Speaker 1: the dances on so you think you can dance? She
Speaker 1: should a bunch of for Bieber just on his last tour.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cassandra is a legendary chographer. Incredible, Like thinking
Speaker 1: about the fact that we got to work with her
Speaker 1: when we were nine.
Speaker 2: And like what, no, seriously why And her being on
Speaker 2: aa DC is also just like the most insane thing
Speaker 2: when she is just a.
Speaker 1: Massive, massive massgrifer. Do you know who else did choreography?
Speaker 1: He did the Cowboy group dance. Victor Rojas is his name,
Speaker 1: and he's like a top dog Gaga dancer. He's been
Speaker 1: her dancer for like, oh yeah, I love Victor yea yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that he did the group dance. No,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like do you remember too when he used
Speaker 1: to run the dance and then he'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: let me watch it, and he'd like close his eyes.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't watch Richie does that really? So when Richie
Speaker 1: he raps for me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so we worked with so many iconic people on
Speaker 2: the show, and I don't even think that at the
Speaker 2: time we realized it. That's going back to just like
Speaker 2: being a kid, and we were so real It's like
Speaker 2: now you look back at it and it's like, what,
Speaker 2: how did we even get the opportunities to work with
Speaker 2: the people that we worked with.
Speaker 1: It's and we didn't even know. No, we had no clue.
Speaker 1: We didn't even know how big of a deal to
Speaker 1: sign it was. We had no clue. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I worked with her a lot though, with like when
Speaker 2: as I got older in the dance world, and I
Speaker 2: would assist her all the time. She did a bunch
Speaker 2: of dances when we did the Irreplaceable tour, she did
Speaker 2: some of our dances for that. Me and Kendall had
Speaker 2: a really beautiful.
Speaker 1: Duo that she did. She's so good. I love her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so good. Okay, we got to go back because
Speaker 1: we jumped right ahead to dance homes. But pov I
Speaker 1: at this point am like six years old and I'm
Speaker 1: one my favorite TV show and it's like, look, you
Speaker 1: can be on our TV show, Oh You Gotta to
Speaker 1: Do is submitted dance video. I submitted dance video. I'm
Speaker 1: Jonah exactly what I am in Nebraska. I am six
Speaker 1: years old and I am a star. I do a
Speaker 1: dance and it is so bad. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I see there was a winner already of this TV show.
Speaker 1: This TV show is Shake it Up. And guess who
Speaker 1: the freaking winner of Disney's Shake it Up Make Your
Speaker 1: Mark competition was the very first year. You me, no,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that I fully had
Speaker 2: like a dance career crazy before I did dance.
Speaker 1: Mom, because you did bun Heads.
Speaker 2: I did bun Heads.
Speaker 1: I did Shake it Up.
Speaker 2: I did some other things I can't even remember off
Speaker 2: the top of my head. But that was like an
Speaker 2: ABC Family show, big show. I worked with Marguerite Derek's
Speaker 2: huge choreographer. Yeah, someone like amazing. This was no that
Speaker 2: was a Bunheads. But on Make Your Mark, like my
Speaker 2: judges were Sean Kingston, Selena Gomez. I was with every
Speaker 2: Disney star possible when I did Shake it Up, and
Speaker 2: that's insane. I was nine then, But do you know
Speaker 2: how big of a deal Making Mark was like it
Speaker 2: was huge and it's just funny because we didn't know
Speaker 2: each other at the point, and I won that crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so fun. A lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: that either. They'll go back and they'll be like, wait,
Speaker 1: that's and then the next year another little girl group
Speaker 1: duo from your studio.
Speaker 2: Once again, and like everybody thought I was rigged and
Speaker 2: it really was.
Speaker 1: It really wasn't. They were just cute and they were
Speaker 1: good and they had it together.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, are my real dance studio that I
Speaker 2: grew up at?
Speaker 1: Really? Oh my god, so good. I feel like y'all
Speaker 1: were like, how Utah is now? That was the original
Speaker 1: club dance Like crazy, so good.
Speaker 2: We won so many things. We did so many things,
Speaker 2: like we had another group to America's got talent like
Speaker 2: we did. We were very much so little fresh they
Speaker 2: were so cute.
Speaker 1: It was so hard. When Brnn first came to Dance Moms,
Speaker 1: me did not fan grow over her because I loved
Speaker 1: fresh faces. I really loved fresh faces, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people know like Brin was from my studio. We
Speaker 1: were on the show.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot that's like cross connecting things that
Speaker 2: happened throughout d Smith.
Speaker 1: You know you know, and if you don't know, it's
Speaker 1: not even worth catching you up because.
Speaker 2: There's just you just have and you're just such a
Speaker 2: big fan of everything, literally everything that you knew, everything
Speaker 2: I knew.
Speaker 1: Think about me is I'm not ashamed of my like
Speaker 1: fan girl status, Like no shame in hiding it. Literally
Speaker 1: watched dance Woms every single day. I'm getting ready to
Speaker 1: do the David o Brick Dancewoms or what's up moms?
Speaker 1: Like that's all I watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a pretty big fan girl too. I think
Speaker 2: in different things of Tyler Cameron. We know Tyler just
Speaker 2: like really trying here, you got.
Speaker 1: No, You're really trying. I know.
Speaker 2: I actually haven't really been trying because you're like come up,
Speaker 2: You'll be like get here right now, and I'll be
Speaker 2: like I tell her.
Speaker 1: I'm like Tyler's coming over tonight. We're having to watch party.
Speaker 1: I'm just always messing with her, like I love you.
Speaker 1: But my best two friends could never no, no, I
Speaker 1: would never allow it. I would lose my mind. What
Speaker 1: happens if something was to happening, what happened? I'm chill,
Speaker 1: but like what would happen?
Speaker 2: Like me I'm like already, like going into it, nothing
Speaker 2: would happened.
Speaker 1: I'm chill. You're you're not only planning your relationship, you're
Speaker 1: planning your breakup.
Speaker 2: Now we haven't even got to the relationship part, but
Speaker 2: I'm planning the breakup after.
Speaker 1: Like I everything will be fine. Y'all are both my
Speaker 1: family now? Like I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I Yeah, that's amazing, and then we can all actually
Speaker 2: be family.
Speaker 1: It'd be great. Okay. Then can I marry you? Yes?
Speaker 1: I want the La Klan's gonna marry me so you
Speaker 1: can have a labor. Okay. This actually this leads me
Speaker 1: into my next topic. So obviously we need to clarify
Speaker 1: this before we get into this subject because I know
Speaker 1: people are gonna take clips of this and they are
Speaker 1: gonna shimmey it and sham it and twist it and
Speaker 1: turn it and make it whatever it is. But we're
Speaker 1: about to get controversial here. The world thinks I have
Speaker 1: the biggest crush on you, Glani. I love you with
Speaker 1: my whole heart. You're my sister, who are one of
Speaker 1: the hottest women in the world. I see your pictures
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, bitch, you better work. You could
Speaker 1: not be further from my type. I know what, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of sad about feminine. You're short, Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: that's honestly, that's it, like your personalities to the nines.
Speaker 1: But like I think you, I don't. I don't. Feminine
Speaker 1: is just not my vibe. And I really like someone
Speaker 1: that's taller than me. I am a firm believer and
Speaker 1: like your personal be your person, Like you're not my person.
Speaker 1: I've known you my person. Yeah, you're not my type either.
Speaker 1: Dang it.
Speaker 2: Those but those clips make me laugh so hard. Also
Speaker 2: just because people trying to think that, like you see
Speaker 2: your say, have a crush on me, you don't. Literally,
Speaker 2: I kind of hang out with you the way we
Speaker 2: hang out if you actually crash.
Speaker 1: Actually did, but it is funny. I will say, Okay,
Speaker 1: take us out of the situation. Okay, we don't know
Speaker 1: each other. We don't know ourselves like we are. We've
Speaker 1: never met each other. Watching the clips from Dance Moms,
Speaker 1: watching the I actually have a video edit that we're
Speaker 1: going to react to for a TikTok later if you're down,
Speaker 1: because it's just hilarious seeing the picture from the team
Speaker 1: or I'm staring at you like you actually like, I
Speaker 1: understand why the rumor started, like it so looks like
Speaker 1: it and it's so many funny.
Speaker 2: So May and my friends sent it to me and
Speaker 2: were like, does she really have a crush And You'm like, no,
Speaker 2: she's literally my sister. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 2: We could never be in that sort of a relationship.
Speaker 2: We're just not, like absolutely not like I would lick
Speaker 2: the ground you walked on if you told me to,
Speaker 2: but I would.
Speaker 1: No, no, I can't. I can't even talk about it anyway.
Speaker 1: It's getting so far where I'm like, Okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta wrap up this conversation. But it is just
Speaker 1: so funny. So I just want to know when the rumor,
Speaker 1: Like when you first saw the TikTok? What did? What
Speaker 1: did you think? I'm talking like the iconic, iconic one
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, look at myself with this when
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you all the stares. I'm literally watching
Speaker 1: you do your dance, but people think I'm checking you out,
Speaker 1: but always You're like, I was just.
Speaker 2: Like, it's funny. I didn't really think you liked me
Speaker 2: because I'm so close with you and I just never
Speaker 2: have thought of you like that. So I just thought
Speaker 2: it was funny and we kind of played and do it,
Speaker 2: and I think that that's all I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh my.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's so weird, Like I don't know, I don't
Speaker 2: like get like that either, though I'd be flattered if you.
Speaker 1: Did like me, because I want your lambeau.
Speaker 2: Okay, actually, one time you told me you'd buy me
Speaker 2: a car, and I think you forgot about that.
Speaker 1: I think it'll make you yourself. I literally don't remember that,
Speaker 1: and I remember almost everything I know you did. Did
Speaker 1: I I mean it sounds like something I would say, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe one day. Did you ever say the thing that
Speaker 1: my brother commented on my April Fool's post, I made
Speaker 1: like an edit of me with like a secret girlfriend.
Speaker 1: It was literally it was my brother's girlfriend that I
Speaker 1: made me in the video okay, holding my hand. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm as single as can be. I wish I
Speaker 1: wasn't as single as can be. I'm very single right now,
Speaker 1: single as can be. But my brother was like, can
Speaker 1: I comment on it? So happy for you and Klaunie,
Speaker 1: and I was like, fucking, it's April Fools. That is
Speaker 1: so funny, so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I should have been like, I love
Speaker 2: you baby, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: It's just like this happened to me and my gay
Speaker 1: best friend. People thought we were hooking up, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, no, it would actually be really
Speaker 2: funny though if we did, like end up dating like
Speaker 2: from the show, we're not going.
Speaker 1: To do I know, but like that would have been
Speaker 1: hysterically imagine if it was real. No, Like that would
Speaker 1: have been really fun I imagine if you would have
Speaker 1: gotten the text for me or the call for me.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, so there's this room going around
Speaker 1: and I just really need to be I need to confess.
Speaker 1: I need to confess. I gotta I gotta just be honest.
Speaker 1: I had.
Speaker 2: I had a boyfriend at the time too. My boyfriend
Speaker 2: was like, that's actually really funny. He was like, because
Speaker 2: like I'm with you, but like it was really funny.
Speaker 1: So obvious if you know us, But if you don't,
Speaker 1: and you just see those clips like I do, I
Speaker 1: do see where the world's coming from, and it's it's
Speaker 1: honestly on the.
Speaker 2: Show, we weren't super close, like during Dance Moms, I'm
Speaker 2: so older.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying like you would hang out
Speaker 1: with the cool kids. I was not a good when
Speaker 1: I came to dance, and I was just like the
Speaker 1: oldest too. You're the oldest. You were the vibeest. But
Speaker 1: then like again, if you needed somebody, oh it's it's Jojo,
Speaker 1: I know where you were going. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just feel like our like age gap at that point.
Speaker 1: Was just the awkwarding. It was like the awkward fifteen
Speaker 1: or ten to fourteen or eleven fourteen whatever, you.
Speaker 2: Are still really young, and I was like the oldest
Speaker 2: one and I was hanging out like I feel like
Speaker 2: I was like closest with like Maddie and like we're cool.
Speaker 1: You were Yeah you were wearing Brandy Mailville and yeah,
Speaker 1: I literally and I was like I want to go
Speaker 1: to justice. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just were in like different People forget that.
Speaker 2: It was like actually our childhood too. That I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people forget that that.
Speaker 1: It's like, imagine what.
Speaker 2: You went through in your childhood. We were just kids
Speaker 2: and it was just put on TV.
Speaker 1: The public for the Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think it's so funny when people like pen
Speaker 2: us against each other, like so and so is so mean.
Speaker 2: You have to like you have to remember we were.
Speaker 1: We were children, literally twelve like babies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, think about what your childhood was like,
Speaker 2: that's what ours was, just just so public.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, So now, I mean I feel like we've
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of dance Mom's chat, and we got
Speaker 1: the reunion coming up where people are going to get
Speaker 1: even more dance Moms chat. You've done so many incredible
Speaker 1: things post Dance Moms. I've loved watching you. I've loved
Speaker 1: watching everyone's journey post Dance Moms. But I've just I
Speaker 1: love seeing you go on all your brand deal trips
Speaker 1: and I'm just like you better work, Colone like you
Speaker 1: you got it. You're doing the dang thing. You become
Speaker 1: an older sister, which again, I mean you have two
Speaker 1: little brothers and now you have a little sister, which
Speaker 1: is I mean, I just I love following along with you,
Speaker 1: like personally because I love and adore you so much,
Speaker 1: but to see to see you like doing what you've
Speaker 1: always wanted to be doing is just so cool. But
Speaker 1: something that is new for you and that I am
Speaker 1: so proud of you forre because stuff like this takes
Speaker 1: so much work. Is care by Colonie. Yeah, give me
Speaker 1: the rundown, Give Me how it started, Give me it All.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So my brand, it's only maybe six seven months
Speaker 2: old right now.
Speaker 1: That bag.
Speaker 2: It is a care by Klawonnie, and it is a
Speaker 2: I'm a very big mental health advocate.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, from being on the show
Speaker 1: to even now, the things that I've gone through personally
Speaker 1: that I try to open up with, but I don't
Speaker 1: share too much, just because there's obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: things that are personal to me. But that was the
Speaker 1: whole point of why I wanted to start Care by
Speaker 1: Claudiates a self care brand, and I think that that's
Speaker 1: something that I really got into post show. On the show,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was very emotionless. If you go
Speaker 1: back and watch episodes, and I've gone and like watched episodes,
Speaker 1: I was just the oldest. I really feel like I
Speaker 1: took care of everybody and you were just you were
Speaker 1: there to dance. You weren't there to express feeling, express emotion.
Speaker 1: You were just there to dance. And at the time
Speaker 1: that was good. But now looking back in hindsight, you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: maybe I did need to feel things.
Speaker 2: No for sure, and I let so much bottle up
Speaker 2: that after the show, I went through one of the
Speaker 2: hardest parts of my life where I was just having
Speaker 2: panic attacks every day, anxious every day, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know why. And it was more or less just because
Speaker 2: I bottled everything up from when I was a kid
Speaker 2: and I never expressed it. And you know my mom too,
Speaker 2: she's not really like a very emotionally person.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, she's not an emotional animal.
Speaker 1: She's like a fun puppy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's not someone that I felt like, not in
Speaker 2: a bad way.
Speaker 1: But I can, especially with you. Your mom was a
Speaker 1: very young mom, and she's been open about that, and
Speaker 1: so I think now with her kids, she might have
Speaker 1: a bit different of a relationship her younger kids. But
Speaker 1: you and your mom are close in age, and so
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 2: Basically just growing up together exactly, going through Yeah. And
Speaker 2: I feel like also, all a lot of the other
Speaker 2: kids on the show, their moms were older or had
Speaker 2: like older siblings, so when they had gone through things before,
Speaker 2: I was my mom's first, like, so we were just
Speaker 2: going through everything together so fresh and new, which every
Speaker 2: single person was. But I don't know, I just didn't
Speaker 2: express my emotion at time. So once I got off
Speaker 2: the show. I just was going through anxiety and panic attacks,
Speaker 2: and I was living by myself, and I was living
Speaker 2: in La alone, and COVID was happening, and there were
Speaker 2: so many new things that I really wanted to be
Speaker 2: a mental health advocate to people, and that was the
Speaker 2: whole point of starting my brand. So she's new and
Speaker 2: she's self care. Actually, I was just thinking this. You
Speaker 2: left yesterday on set, but I gave everybody packages back.
Speaker 2: Everybody stall the stuff. But I have your address, now,
Speaker 2: you have where I live.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to be sent it to you. I'm
Speaker 1: also all buy it. You don't have to send it.
Speaker 1: I want to support Please do will I will one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I will write after this, you know I
Speaker 1: I'll send you. Has it been fun? Has it been
Speaker 1: fun to do? Because I think one of the coolest
Speaker 1: things you can do is take one of your struggles
Speaker 1: and make it something that you are proud of. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of care by Colonnie kind
Speaker 1: of gave you the outlet of you have recently, I
Speaker 1: mean literally, as of three days ago, started to be
Speaker 1: open about some of your very very serious struggles. But
Speaker 1: I think for the longest time you've been open about
Speaker 1: just your struggles in general. H And I think this
Speaker 1: now care bout Keloonie gives you a place to take
Speaker 1: those struggles and do good with them and help others.
Speaker 1: So does it? Does it feel good? Is it tough?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you? I don't know? Would you?
Speaker 2: I always say that I wanted whenever I started a
Speaker 2: brand or whenever I started something, I wanted it to
Speaker 2: be meaningful to me and to be able to help others.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to just start something to make money.
Speaker 2: I wanted because I feel like that's something that a
Speaker 2: lot of people just do it this which I totally
Speaker 2: understand too.
Speaker 1: And the success financially will only come if it's something
Speaker 1: that has the longevity, and it has a longevity if
Speaker 1: it's something that you truly are passionate exactly. And so
Speaker 1: that was the whole reason of starting the brand.
Speaker 2: And I feel like having a genuine outlook and like
Speaker 2: being genuine about what I'm creating, you know, makes it
Speaker 2: makes it better. You know, I'm not just in it
Speaker 2: for the money. I like genuinely want to help people,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I try to do. I genuinely try
Speaker 2: to help people and help people understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: I do think that it's hard sometimes just because people
Speaker 2: look at you and think there's no way you have anxiety.
Speaker 2: You have this perfect life, and I'm like, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: You know what we were talking about on the reunion,
Speaker 2: And it's just I really wanted to start something that
Speaker 2: was meaningful to me. But in my brand, I'm going
Speaker 2: to start just like I wanted it to be very
Speaker 2: also vague, because I self care can mean anything. Like
Speaker 2: a form of self care for me is dance. I
Speaker 2: love to dance. I love to teach dance. And during
Speaker 2: those times where I was really really bad and really anxious,
Speaker 2: I took dance out of my life because I think
Speaker 2: I was so just over it.
Speaker 1: And I think you may have thought too, that was
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I did. And I just recently, maybe
Speaker 2: in the past two years, have started teaching and dancing
Speaker 2: more and it's something that I find such a Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love to dance. I'm like, you dance a lot
Speaker 1: now too. Anytime I'm going through something hard now I
Speaker 1: reach for dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like if I'm just like chilling, like I reach
Speaker 1: right now. I'm into the drums like that it's like
Speaker 1: what I reach for. But when I am like, I
Speaker 1: need to like get emotion out dance yeah instantly. So
Speaker 1: I've been teaching dance now too, and I want to
Speaker 1: create so many different things for my brand. I want
Speaker 1: to go into like skincare, I want to go into
Speaker 1: like dance where maybe like things. So if you can
Speaker 1: make something that can relate into that somehow, yeah, I
Speaker 1: have to think about that. Socks. If you do socks,
Speaker 1: I can wear the socks for in pilate sometimes. I love,
Speaker 1: I love I do make pilate socks. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm there's just with my brand.
Speaker 2: I just want to help outlets and I want to
Speaker 2: create so many things beyond what I even have started.
Speaker 2: So that was just the point of the brand, and
Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's a fun venture to
Speaker 2: have to just outside of everything that I've done. It's
Speaker 2: something that I'm passionate about and it means a lot
Speaker 2: to me. So that's why I started care and then
Speaker 2: I teach chance and those I feel like are my
Speaker 2: two major things that I work.
Speaker 1: On the most. I love it. They keep you, they
Speaker 1: keep you saying, yeah, keep you sane. Yep. Where can
Speaker 1: people where can people buy care by Flani? You can
Speaker 1: buy it at care dot shop care, dot shop care
Speaker 1: with a K, Care with a KK a r E. Yeah, care,
Speaker 1: dot shop care with the K, Care with the K.
Speaker 1: She's care with the K.
Speaker 2: So many play on words here, but yes, you.
Speaker 1: Said something too about like how people I don't want
Speaker 1: to wrap it up soon, but you said something about
Speaker 1: how people you know look at you and think like, oh,
Speaker 1: you have this perfect life. Oh you're beautiful, Oh you
Speaker 1: you're a great dancer, you're talented. But sometimes some of
Speaker 1: the happiest people that you see are the people that
Speaker 1: are struggling the most. And so I think that's just
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye out for for everyone in
Speaker 1: the world. Keep an eye on your friends.
Speaker 2: And and especially the people that don't talk about it
Speaker 2: the most. Yep, because I'm not on.
Speaker 1: Those people that are there for everyone else. Yeah, sometimes
Speaker 1: they need someone to be there for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, depression, anxiety, all these mental
Speaker 2: health problems that people have come in so many different
Speaker 2: shapes and sizes, and then it all goes back for
Speaker 2: me at least, like be nice on social media, because
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times that has been
Speaker 2: something that has hurt me, and I'm sure that you've
Speaker 2: gone through you have thick skin now, but it's so hard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think it could happen to anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's so tough. Social media is so tough,
Speaker 1: and no one's gonna straight up be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: struggling with my mental health right now, because.
Speaker 2: It's the hardest thing to do. I've done it before.
Speaker 2: Ask you don't even you don't even know how much
Speaker 2: it took me to do it.
Speaker 1: So I think that that's why I'm also such a
Speaker 1: big advocate, because I've been able to get over that hump.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I always try to tell people just to
Speaker 2: be kind to others because it's you never know what somebody's.
Speaker 1: Going through, and if you're struggling, getting over that hump
Speaker 1: is the hardest thing, but it is worth it to
Speaker 1: get over that. Yeah, It's okay to ask for help.
Speaker 1: It is better to ask for help than it is
Speaker 1: to not. I agreed. Ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 1: problems can be worked through, but one percent of problems
Speaker 1: can get worked through with no help. A lot of
Speaker 1: problems need help, whether that's from a family, whether that's
Speaker 1: from a friend or whether that's from a professional. Don't
Speaker 1: be scared of help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be scared of help. And I think you know,
Speaker 2: I have a good support system. Find the people that
Speaker 2: love you and care about you, and just try to
Speaker 2: keep your life positive. And I feel like that that's
Speaker 2: helped me so much.
Speaker 1: I mean for me.
Speaker 2: You know that I moved back. I moved back to Scottsdale.
Speaker 1: I was in LA. You're the best. Sorry, this is
Speaker 1: such a sun note. You have the best coffee shop
Speaker 1: in Scottsdale. What's it called? Something? Elephant? Black something something blackrock? Blackrock?
Speaker 2: Where did elephant come from?
Speaker 1: Because here we have black elephant. Oh, okay, blackrock. It's
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: I get that almost every day before I get teach chance.
Speaker 2: So the banana chocolate one from there, I'll have to
Speaker 2: give that a try.
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a it's a like a protein shaker, isn't it.
Speaker 1: No, it's a coffee, but it's coffee.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to un I'm gonna have to give.
Speaker 1: That a try. Ala, it's my favorite. Do love Alfreds.
Speaker 1: I love Priscilla's too. Here and find out the holiday
Speaker 1: drinks are out like, I know what Christmas drinks are
Speaker 1: out right now, Merry freaking Christmas the season. What's on
Speaker 1: your holiday list? Like? I want a boyfriend, saying a
Speaker 1: girlfriend and care bye, Coloni.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get you care by Colonie. I'll give you
Speaker 2: everything in every color because you make a favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go order it, don't send it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: order very kind of you, y'all. Thank you for joining
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