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Speaker 7: So you know, I understand conservative impulses. I understand we

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Speaker 7: So this really, Yes, migration has been a huge flashpoint.

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Speaker 7: To be fixed in a humane way with secure borders

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Speaker 8: It is a sacred, sacred declined. So thank you for that,

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Speaker 1: This is the Democratic Party go around the world trash America,

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