1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm straight off of Texas. I just got from 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: home from Texas and you actually had fun. It seems 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: like we had a great time. That Texas crowds were amazing, Houston. 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: Dallas, Austin. It was really fun. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: I had Yaminika was my special guest this weekend. She's 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: fucking crazy. We're gonna have her on the podcast. She 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: is crazy. She should be a mental institution, which is 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: why I'm going to stay very close by her side. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: Dylan Mlvani was telling me that we ran into her. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: We ran into Francis Tfo, the tennis player who I love, 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: who's such a great tennis player. We ran into my cousins, 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: friends everywhere. It was a real fun weekend in Texas. 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: I had a lot of tacos, but only one decent one. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: We stopped at Bucky's. We have course, didn't travel with 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: any drugs there that would be illegal. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: Oh but they have drugs there now. They have Delta nine. 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh what does that? 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: That's that? 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 4: You know? 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like uzu. 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: For you know, when they don't have real alcohol at 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: restaurants and they have uzu. 25 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: That's what I feel like deltonne is I'm not really 26 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: sure what Dalton nine is. 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: Actually, it's like cannabis, like if it's legal in Texas, 28 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: it's not. 29 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: I can't be real. 30 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 5: Is it like you get it from a gas station 31 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 5: sort of thing two from the nineties or that. 32 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know where you get it from, I mean 33 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: the pseudo fed Maybe I'm not sure. I'm not the 34 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: person to ask. I mean my study of cannabis has 35 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: like kind of taken. 36 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: A back seat. Yeah, you use the real stuff. But 37 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: and then I was just dealing with Yaminika. 38 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean really, yeah, you know, she's a mess, and 39 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: she wants she's horny. She's horny all the time. She 40 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: loves to get action all the time. And I felt 41 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: like if she didn't get it from a man, she 42 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: was gonna come to me, do you know what I mean? 43 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: And I was like, like we were it was getting 44 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: very physical, and I was like, listen, I'm not the one. 45 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: Can you provide? 46 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I can't. I'm not going down on anybody. 47 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: So that's what she was specifically looking for, Okay, and 48 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: then she stays at these terrible motels or hotels to 49 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: get points. I don't know where the points are going 50 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: or how you could even accumulate points at these places, 51 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: but whatever. 52 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: I mean, if you stay at a terrible motel to 53 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: get points, you can just get more stays at a 54 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 5: terrible motel. 55 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: I guess so, yeah, I guess so. 56 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: But we had a great time and then we came home, 57 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: and now we're home and then I'm shooting my I'm 58 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: shooting my special this weekend. 59 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going next home? 60 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, great, I am so, I'm going to a 61 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: new wave here seek and Doug flipped out. 62 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: You know, it was funny. 63 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: I was in the car on the way home from 64 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the airport and watching Instagram and there was this video 65 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: of this dog. It was in New Finland, so it 66 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: wasn't Doug like a chow, but New Finland black Newfoinlands 67 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: look a lot like Doug. 68 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: And the dog had the zoomies when his mom. 69 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: It was a video called Mama's Mama's Home and he 70 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: the dog went nuts and nuts and nuts. And I 71 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: literally walked in the door and that's exactly what Doug did. 72 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: So it was like life imitating art. 73 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: That's incredible. Yeah, yeah, he went nuts. 74 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: I mean he was airborne a couple of times, just 75 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: jumping over things. 76 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: So that was exciting. 77 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: It's nice to have a man who was just like, 78 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: so excited to see you. 79 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: And also when I don't put the pressure on the 80 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: relationship with Doug, when I'm not like, of course, I'm 81 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: all over him and I want, you know, to be 82 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: with him, inside of him. But when I don't put 83 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: the pressure on it and I let him do his thing, 84 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: he is actually much more. Like he came into bed 85 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: twice the night before last, and last night he came 86 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: into bed and that was so sweet, Like I didn't 87 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: ask him to, he just hopped up and wanted to cuddle. 88 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: I love that. 89 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: That's very sweet. 90 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: I feel like Chow personalities are a little more cat like. Yeah, 91 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: they're like them alone, they come to you. 92 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to leave them alone. 93 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I didn't learn that lesson with Burton Bernice, 94 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: but I'm learning it with Doug. 95 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, this says I'm excited about our guest today. 96 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: She's responsible for catastrophe Bad Sisters. Bad Sisters is in 97 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: season two on Apple right now, so please give a 98 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: warm welcome to Sharon Horgan. 99 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: Who's a lucky duckling. Today we are me. 100 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, where are you? You look like you're 101 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: It's such a nicely designed studio. 102 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Room in a Where are you in it? 103 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: Carlton? 104 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: It smells like a ritz Carlton from where I sit. 105 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. It's thirty seventh floors up, which 106 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: means your soup's cold when he gets here. 107 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Sharon, Are you drinking a cocktail at eleven in the 108 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: morning or where are you? 109 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I wish I was as soon as I finished this. 110 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I would always recommend having a 111 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: cocktail when talking to me. But I was on a 112 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: plane yesterday at like nine am and they this guy 113 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: next to me ordered a bourbon and coke and I 114 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: almost threw up in my mouth. I was like, why 115 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: does it have to be a bourbon and coke at 116 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: nine o'clock in the morning. 117 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: That's not one of the designated breakfast drinks, you know, 118 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: because exactly right, Memosa is a breakfast drink. Acceptable. Let 119 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: me marry is a breakfast drink if you could drink 120 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: of bourbon. Breakfast is Christmas Day when old drinks are 121 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: old drinks are legal. 122 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sharon, speaking of early morning drinking, I mean you 123 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: are Irish and isn't that where. 124 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: Early morning drinking began in Ireland? 125 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I think so that's what the scriptures say, the ancient ones. 126 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: We're very we are very good at drinking. I quit 127 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: for nearly three years, though, so that was a weird 128 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: sort of landscape to be in. Whenever I go back home, 129 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: that was an odd one. 130 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Why did you quit for three years? 131 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Why? No, there was a good reason, I tell I'll 132 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: tell you why. It was at the end of COVID 133 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: and every everyone's drinking had just gotten out of control. 134 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: I think, I know, but three years is a long commitment. 135 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I know. I had, like in fairness, I had like 136 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: if someone got married, I'd have a glass of champagne 137 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: and drink like half of it. I suddenly just became 138 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: freaked out that I wasn't like if I had a 139 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: drink then I'd sort of get professional again. And we 140 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: were just partying all through COVID, and one night I 141 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: was this is sounds so middle class. I was shocking oysters, 142 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: and I put the thing with the shukka through my hand. 143 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: It's not the scar and I was just like, oh 144 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: fuck it, and I'm carried on with the knives. I 145 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: woke up the next morning and I couldn't move my hand. 146 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: There was a little of my pillow, and I went 147 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: to hospital. I thought I should probably just like CHILLNKH, 148 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: just chill out for a bit and then and then, 149 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: you know, the way if you're someone who is a 150 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: bit you know, I just got really into it. I 151 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: got really into not drinking, the way people who like 152 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: to drink get into drinking. So I found that I 153 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: was really good at it. And then, you know, I 154 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: guess the novelty wore off a little bit. 155 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everything's good to experiment with for a 156 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: few years here and a few years there, sobriety included. 157 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: I like it sometimes. 158 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes I feel like I think everyone had 159 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: a very similar experience in COVID unless you were sober 160 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: and your and your sobriety was probably challenged or threatened. 161 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, there wasn't much going on. 162 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: I took lots and lots of drugs, mushrooms, edibles. Throughout 163 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: my COVID experience. I went to heights I had never 164 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: seen before. 165 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: I just wanted to see it. 166 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: At a certain point, like I just started experimenting with 167 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: my own body. I'm like, what can I handle? Like 168 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: I felt like a mac truck. I'm like, can anything 169 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: take me down? But I want to make sure everyone listening. 170 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: That's not for everyone, that's just for me. So, Sharon, 171 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: I first caught wind of view in a big way 172 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: with Catastrophe, which is still to this day. You and 173 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: Rob Delaney in that show was so fucking funny. Every 174 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: scene in that show was so ridiculous and so well written. 175 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: I was like, who is this woman? And I wanted 176 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: I have to do something with you. At some point, 177 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: you have to put me in one of your shows 178 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: because I just want to hang out and be stupid. 179 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: Yes, please do but and then she chops that off. 180 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Hang on, didn't we ask you to be Rob sister? 181 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I think we did in Catastrophe? Im No, I don't know, 182 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: not that I know about it. I think so, well, 183 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: next offer you, I just switched agents. 184 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: That's probably why. Next time you have something for me, 185 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: go to wm ME. They'll let me know. 186 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, we'll do. 187 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: But after that I saw the next time I was 188 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: so you left that show. 189 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: Sorry. 190 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: How many seasons was catastroph. 191 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: We did four, which is a lot for the UK. 192 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it felt like you could have done more. 193 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: But probably wise to leave before. 194 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think that sort of stage of having kids, 195 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: we sort of felt like we'd done it, you know, 196 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: we'd said everything we wanted to say about that particular 197 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: era of having young children. But like maybe we always 198 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: sort of talked about down the line, whether teenagers or something, 199 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: we might revisit it. It's different now, though, I think 200 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: we'd both feel a bit like, oh shit, what do 201 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: we do? I'd rather write something new with him because 202 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: we had such a great time. 203 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: I know, I knew could get together. It was such 204 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 3: an unusual. 205 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: Show for that time because it was very unique idea 206 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: about these two people just hooking up, not knowing each 207 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: other and getting pregnant and then staying together, which is 208 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: just so crazy to even think about doing. But your 209 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: chemistry together, you should definitely be doing more stuff together. 210 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: It's so fun to watch as if you were. 211 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: And as a comedian, you know, I don't find many 212 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: things funny because I'm I guess I don't know why 213 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: that is. 214 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: I get it. 215 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we were obsessive about the amount of jokes 216 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: that had to be in it. We were quite we 217 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: had really strong opinions about how many jokes there had 218 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: to be in her page, and I think my sitcom 219 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: background was funny, really funny sitcom, and Rob's background was 220 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: stand up and you know, he's just a naturally one 221 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: of the funniest people you could ever meet. So we 222 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: would sort of read it out all the time, and 223 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: if it didn't feel like there was a high level 224 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: of jokes through about sort of we would get panicky. 225 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: And it was kind of the first one of the 226 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: first things we thought about. I mean character obviously, but 227 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: then it was just jokes. 228 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: I feel like true comedians just care more about the 229 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: comedy and then the character comes after and if there's enough, 230 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: like I know, that's the opposite way of professionally like 231 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: as any writer would look at anything, they're always like, no, 232 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: this character wouldn't do. I'm like, but it's not funny. 233 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: Let's make it fucking funny. That's what the relief is 234 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: for viewers to really be laughing at something, you know, 235 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: at the absurdity. 236 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: You left that show. You guys were done with that. 237 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: So for those of you who have not seen it, 238 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: Bad Sisters is out season two, but please watch season 239 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: one first, because this show talk about original concepts and 240 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: talk about great characters. I mean, I'm from a big family. 241 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: I know, Sharon, you're from a big family as well. 242 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 2: I love nothing more than sisters. I have two sisters. 243 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: Whenever I we have sisters call into the show with problems, 244 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: I am so sister positive. And this show is so 245 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: fucking funny because there are five sisters five or four four. 246 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Five five all together? 247 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, five sisters altogether, Okay, five sisters who are all 248 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: very different, who all and they have one sister who 249 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: has a total douchebag for a husband. And this guy 250 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: plays this role to a tea. I mean, he is repugnant. 251 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: He like you, you are your vagina closes when you 252 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: watch him. 253 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing because he's a handsome mom. Like 254 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: he's a you know, tall, dark, handsome mom, but he 255 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: is he absolutely does close your I know, like as 256 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: same as. 257 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Because totally the sisters are all plotting together to figure 258 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: out a way to get their sister away from this man. 259 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: And then it becomes and it's also set in Ireland, 260 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: so it's so beautiful to see and so refreshing to 261 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: see another backdrop like that. Just even the architecture and 262 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: your houses and the design. 263 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: Of being in a different country. 264 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: It's just so refreshing from American television, you know, and 265 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: our an American La La Land. Our new fad, which 266 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're very well aware of, is everything needs 267 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: this gorgeous backdrop, you know, it's that got to be 268 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: like a white lotus or perfect couple, like everything's in 269 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: Nantucket and it's like, I don't like that. That's not 270 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: relatable at all. It's very real and gritty. As what 271 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, it. 272 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: Is real, and I guess you know, there's an aspirational 273 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: element to it and that you know, people want to 274 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: be part of a big family, and there's sort of 275 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a wish fulfillment that comes with deciding that you'll kill 276 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: someone That awful plenty to sort of look at and enjoy. 277 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: But we always thought it has to look real, like 278 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the women have to look real in it, because if 279 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: it's not real, and if people don't believe this setup 280 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: and these women and their connection, they're not going to 281 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: get behind them in the same way you kind of 282 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: had to get behind them every episode they tried to 283 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: kill them, so in order to sort of make that 284 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: conceit work and to really feel like you were behind 285 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: killing a man, I think it had to be truthful 286 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: as much as. 287 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Possible, which is something I've always dreamt of doing with 288 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: my own family group, you know, picking one of our 289 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: like my sibling spouses and just getting rid of them forever. 290 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: Like that sounds like it's such a how did you 291 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: come up with that concept? 292 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, I can't. I can't take credit for that. 293 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: So it's based on a Belgian series called Clam, which 294 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: was a marvelous same conceit. I mean, it was completely 295 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: different execution that it was way crazier, Like there was 296 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: a lot more murders than a lot like you know, 297 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: collateral damage, whereas I was kind of really interested in 298 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: the emotional side of it, you know, and the impact 299 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: that being in that kind of abiece of relationship would 300 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: have on Grace and on the sisters. And they hired 301 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: hit men and dead bodies ended up in dog food 302 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: sort of factories, and you know it. It was kind 303 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: of ott. But the central conceit of these five sisters 304 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: and their bond and one of them being married to 305 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: a prick, and just like, we've got to save her 306 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: before we lose her entirely that that already existed, So 307 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: I was really lucky to get that. For the second season, 308 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I had to think it up myself. 309 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So how did you tackle that? 310 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: I suppose I was really interested in what would happen next, 311 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Like the end of the first season, I loved, you know, great, 312 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: he's dead and they're back together and they saved her 313 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: and she jumps into the water into the forty foot 314 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: with and it was lovely, but it was also kind 315 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: of a fairy tale, I guess, fairy tale ending for her, 316 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: And I think the idea of what would really happen 317 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: and how someone is as good as Grace would be 318 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: able to just get on with their life after that, 319 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: like how the guilt with eat her up. And also, 320 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, someone like that who would have isoolated herself 321 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: for all those years and sort of would try and 322 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: hide the kind of relationship she was in and how 323 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: abusive it was, wouldn't be very good at like going 324 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: to her sisters then and opening up if something, if 325 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: something else terrible happened. So so yeah, I just actually 326 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: felt it was closer to the kind of things I 327 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: used to write, you know, Like I loved writing the 328 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: first season and the thriller and the Caper and all that, 329 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: but actually the real true fallout of being in a 330 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: situation like that, I found kind of easier, you know, naturally, 331 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of easier to dig into. 332 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: It's also great that you write all your stuff and 333 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: then you star in your own stuff and you're a 334 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: fifty four year old w I would like to say, so, 335 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: I grew up in this industry when I was coming up. 336 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to be fifty next year, when I grew up. 337 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: Every when I grew up, but when I was coming 338 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: up and all my actress friends were I had one 339 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: specific actress friend who was like, everyone becomes invisible when 340 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: they're forty, Like you are no longer valuable, You will 341 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: no longer be looked at the same way. And I 342 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: always thought, no, that can't be true, Like that depends 343 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: where your value was coming from. 344 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: I had thought exactly the same thing. I thought exactly 345 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. I remember my agent taking me out 346 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: for lunch on one of the visits to LA I 347 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: used to make lots of pilots and nothing got picked up, 348 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and I started getting more and more like panicky. And 349 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I remember taking out for luncheon. I think I was 350 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: only like early forties Max, and I was like this 351 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: is we got with the time because very soon no 352 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: one's gonna want to see this. But I think that 353 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: must have been what I was seeing around me. You know, 354 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: there was that huge jump where women just sort of 355 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: disap heed until they were you know, Judy Dunch or 356 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Maggie Smith or it kind of felt like you could 357 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: be up to a certain age where you were acceptable 358 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and then you kind of had to just fuck off 359 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: for a bit and then you can come back when 360 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: you're a crone. And so I guess that's all I 361 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: say nervous about. But I mean, that's not entirety change, 362 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: but it is. I think it's changed a lot, and 363 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I think it changed. 364 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: I think, especially when we consider like where we are 365 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: politically right now. The reason why men are so you know, 366 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: so scared of female empowerment and female success is because 367 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: it threat you know, that's threatening to them, right because 368 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: we wouldn't be at this moment if they didn't really 369 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: see women succeeding in ways that we hadn't been before. 370 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: We obviously have way more work to do, but. 371 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: It is it is a threat to this male white 372 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: supremacy idea that so many females are in charge of 373 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: their own lives, that are single, that are business women, 374 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: that are creatives, and in all sorts of areas of business, 375 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: not just Hollywood so exactly. 376 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes down to it comes down 377 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: to commerce all the time, doesn't it. And there was 378 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: definitely their their cava point where you just couldn't deny 379 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: the fact that female content, whether it was created by 380 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: or written or starring was was getting watched by not 381 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: just a specific demographic of women of a certain age. 382 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, I had this wide audience and somebody comes 383 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: once it, Once it comes down to that, I think 384 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: they have to sort of believe it. 385 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and women there's more women than men, and women buy. 386 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: I spend more money than men, and. 387 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: We live longer spending it for me. 388 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: Because we're happier once the men are gone. 389 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: We can live even longer because it's less stressful for 390 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: anyone who's married. 391 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: You're not married though, right, you're divorced. 392 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 6: I I don't. Yeah, I got I got my graduate boards, 393 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 6: I got my uh, I forget what it's called decree 394 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 6: absolute yesterday. 395 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Wow, thank you. You deserve a party. I know I am 396 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: going to party tonight. I have good boyfriend there and 397 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: that's lovely, but it took so long. I mean COVID 398 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: came in the middle of it all and all sorts 399 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: of shit, but it just came through. Yes, I was 400 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: sitting in a cab and it came through and it 401 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: was just such a nickel kidman moment. 402 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, underful, totally. How long were you married for? How 403 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: many years? 404 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember. No, I think fifteen or something fifteen 405 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: a while. 406 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: And you have two children? 407 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I have two amazing girls. I've got a 408 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: twenty one year old daughter and a sixteen year. 409 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: Old Oh nice. Oh that's nice. And they're even almost cooked. 410 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah it's handy now, yeah, they can look after each other. Yeah, 411 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: it's great. 412 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: I would suppose it's meaningful for you to be able 413 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: to go and shoot in Ireland, right. 414 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: It's huge. I mean it's something I was looking to 415 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: do for years. You know. I left Onland when I 416 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: was really young, like twenty, and it took so long 417 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: for me to get my career off the ground. But 418 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: when I did start filming, but it'd start start writing 419 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: my own stuff. It was just something I was slightly 420 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: obsessed with doing, like getting back there and filming something 421 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: at some point. But it took a long time, like 422 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: it took until I was fifty to find the thing 423 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: that that would be. But Bad Sisters happened to be 424 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: the perfect thing because it really studed harden because we 425 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: all have big families. No one used any precautions. Everything 426 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of made sense in terms of setting it there. 427 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was thrilled. 428 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: And so when you let's go back to that. 429 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: I like to think this will be very important for 430 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: our listeners since they're all women about your success. You 431 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: were talking to you when you're talking to your agent 432 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: and your forties, like, okay, time is sticking. 433 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Let's go. 434 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: What when did you first experience your big first success. 435 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: My big first break I think was when I got 436 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: my first sitcom made. I mean before that, I was doing, 437 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, writing for a bit for radio and doing 438 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: like some sketch comedy and that kind of thing. But 439 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I think I was thirty eight. 440 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: I love that I didn't get successful until I was 441 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: thirty twoish. It was when I really started to like 442 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: people started to know who I was. 443 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: But many years led up to that. 444 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: But people call into this show all the time thinking 445 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: and being and these are twenty year old girls worried 446 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: about when they're going to realize what their passion is. 447 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, oh listen, it frustrates me 448 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: so much. But it's the same even with my own daughter, 449 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: just seeing her, my eldest girl, like stressing out about 450 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: not knowing what she wants. And I was like Jesus, 451 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: I was working as a chamber made a bar made 452 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: a waitress, working in a job center, selling bonds, selling powershowers. 453 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I did all of that right the way through my 454 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: twenties into my early thirties before I figured out if 455 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: I really try, then I can probably do this thing 456 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: that might make me happy. But yeah, I remember someone 457 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: saying to me when I was in my late twenties, saying, 458 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: very very straight and truthfully, going, if you haven't made 459 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: it by the time of twenty six year, make it. 460 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: And I was terrified at hearing this piece of wisdom 461 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: because I was like, well, I'm screwed them. But well, 462 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, I there's a part of me that kind 463 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: of things. I wish i'd pushed myself a little harder, 464 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: you know. I wish I'd sort of had the confidence 465 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: to step out and try and make it happen sooner. 466 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time. I'm really grateful for everything now, 467 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: like everything is a bonus, you know. And also I 468 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: had so much more to write about. There was so 469 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: much like living in low level accommodation, not having a 470 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: part to piss in all those terrible jobs like otherwise. 471 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like I feel like 472 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: it so rooted me and gave me something real to 473 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: write about and to draw on. So I should be 474 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: grateful for that. 475 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there's so much more of a 476 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: groundedness that comes with success later in life, not prematurely. 477 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: I mean we see what have and when people become 478 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: successful prematurely, that's not a recipe for anything positive. 479 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean they're ruined, an't they they? I Mean, I 480 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: know there's exceptions, but for the most part, Yeah, they're weirdos. 481 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. 482 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: And I mean I always look back at my twenties 483 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: and I like when anyone calls in from their twenties, 484 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I drank slept with me. My whole 485 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: twenties was just craziness and crazy behavior, and thank goodness, 486 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 2: like I had all those experiences the same thing. That's 487 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: where I got all my stories from, you know, that's wheah. 488 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: I started writing books and started doing stand up and 489 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: started learning about storytelling and what makes a good story, 490 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: you know, and all of those things are invaluable. So 491 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: it's like, I know, we're always eager to get to 492 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: the success part of our lives, but part of the road, 493 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: you know, the road getting there. And this always sounds 494 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: annoying coming from an older person, I know, but it 495 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: is the ride. It's the ride to get where you're 496 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: going that gives you all of the juice so that 497 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: when you get where you're going, you have tons of 498 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: fucking material. 499 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: Exactly. That's it, exactly. I mean my twenties were gross. 500 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: They smelt, they actually smelt. 501 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: On that note, we're going to take a break and 502 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: we'll be right back with Sharon Horgan. And we're back 503 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: with Sharon Horgan. Okay, Sharon, we're taking some questions from callers. 504 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for this? 505 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 506 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: I am. 507 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 508 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 5: We have a very sister centric, almost exclusively a sister 509 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 5: centric episode today in real life. 510 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: Sharon, I need to know how many sisters do you have. 511 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: I've got two sisters, two brothers. My sister's one younger, 512 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: one older, and what number are you out of the 513 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: five I'm the second eldest. 514 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well, before we go into questions, there 515 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 5: was something that we wanted to get talking about. What's 516 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 5: the craziest thing you've ever done for your sisters, A 517 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: time you covered for a sister, or the most outrageous 518 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: thing you did to protect a sister. 519 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: I asked, my sister, is that this morning? 520 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: I just flew in from Raleigh, North Carolina, where I 521 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: saw Pink last night, and I was I knew we 522 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: were going to talk to Sharon about and so I 523 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: texted my sisters and they reminded me. I'm the youngest 524 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: of six kids, and my sister was getting divorced and 525 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: I was going on Safari and there were five of us, 526 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: I think, and we had room for one more. And 527 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Simon, you should come with us 528 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: on safari. She's like Africa. Two weeks she was moving 529 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: into her new house. She got a divorce, so I 530 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: bought her a house. I want to just throw that 531 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: out there, which I would do again in a heartbeat, 532 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: and which I also ended up biting her in the 533 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: ass because the house. 534 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't need a house like this. 535 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: This is too stupid and too big, and she's like, 536 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: and now I have to live in some house you. 537 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: Designated for me. So yeah, I think twice when you're 538 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: buying homes for people. But anyway, I said, come. 539 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: To Africa and she's like, okay, Chelsea, but I have 540 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: to be home by August fifteenth because we're moving into 541 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: the new house. And I was like, no problem. The 542 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: trip was going to go to August twentieth. But I 543 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: just was like whatever, I'll just get her movers. She 544 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 2: doesn't know what, you know, she doesn't have to go 545 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: back for the move. But when she got there, she assumed, 546 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: like you know that I had gotten her ticket to 547 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: come home on August fifteenth, and I was like, I 548 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: just went along with it until it was like August fourteenth, 549 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: and I was like, by the way, you're actually not 550 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: going home tomorrow. 551 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 3: You're going home on the twentieth. 552 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: And she's like, Chelsea, this is exactly why I don't 553 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: trust you, Like you can't just this is not based 554 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: on your desires to be around me. I have a responsibility. 555 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: I have to move my three children into a new 556 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: fucking house. I'm like, please, we'll hire movers for you. 557 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: We'll make your ex do it. That's the least he 558 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: could do. He's the reason for this divorce. And so 559 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: she didn't want to stay. She wanted to be responsible. 560 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: She had her three children. I convinced her. I was like, 561 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: it won't be the same if you leave, Like we're 562 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: in Botswana, Like, when are we going to come back here? 563 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: This is the trip of a lifetime, And I said. 564 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: I called my brother in law, my ex brother in law, 565 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, you have to step up. This 566 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: is you're going to have to move them into the 567 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: house that they're moving to get away from you. I 568 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: was like, that's your responsibility. But she never forgave me, 569 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: and she doesn't trust me now on making any travel 570 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: plans because she thinks I'm only out for myself and 571 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: that I can't be trusted. 572 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: And she's not wrong. I'm totally out for myself. 573 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Was it was the rest of the holiday? Good? Was 574 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: it worth? The right time? 575 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: We had a blast. I mean, she had the time 576 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: of her life. 577 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you can't come to Africa for eight 578 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: days when you could stay for fourteen days? 579 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, We're in Africa. When are 580 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: we coming back to Africa? 581 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: Turns out we went back like two years later, but 582 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: who knew then what was going to happen. So, yeah, 583 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: so that was an extra outrageous thing that I've done 584 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: for my sisters. 585 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: What's the most outrageous thing you've done for your sister? 586 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 6: Like? 587 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing? Oh my IY was thinking, I'm sure, pretty 588 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: sure I held her hair the way when they vomited. 589 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: But like, so, you know, I don't have I mean nothing, 590 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: I've got no big story like that. That's extraordinary. Thank you, 591 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: thoughs thank you. I didn't even know what to say 592 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: to that. I mean, it doesn't sound like you were 593 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: doing it for. 594 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: Her, No, it doesn't, it does it. 595 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: I always think I'm going in for these things in 596 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: an altruistic way, and it turns out I'm only trying 597 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: to serve. I'm trying to service myself. 598 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 5: So Alison says, Dear Chelsea, I've had a complicated relationship 599 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: with my sister all my life. She's two and a 600 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: half years older than me, and for the most part, 601 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 5: we didn't see eye to eye until about fourteen years ago, 602 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 5: when her life fell apart and she moved to the 603 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: city where I live to start over. It was then 604 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: that she seemed to make family a priority. And get 605 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: into a better place in her own life. She met 606 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 5: someone and ended up getting married. She and her wife 607 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: relocated to another state and began fostering children. Over the 608 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 5: last few years, they adopted four children, who are now 609 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 5: all under the age of five. Over the years, she 610 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 5: continued to take on more and more with her wife's family, 611 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 5: her job, each adopted kid, and even additional foster care. 612 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 5: Our family kept warning her that she was doing too much, 613 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: and then a couple of months ago, she called to 614 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: tell me her marriage was over. She had not been 615 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 5: happy for the last couple of years, and she rekindled 616 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: a romance with an ex who cheated on her. She's 617 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: now trying to expedite a divorce and move in with 618 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: her ex. She plans to move straight into her house. 619 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm so disappointed on so many levels with her. She 620 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: worked so hard to build this family and now she's 621 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: just throwing it all away. She's digging in her heels, 622 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 5: which is probably why we didn't get along for many years, 623 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: and treating her wife, my sister in law, like trash. 624 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: To make matters worse, she has a drinking problem and 625 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 5: has even begun taking amphetamines lately to lose weight. I'm 626 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 5: at a total loss. Should I just let her destroy 627 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: herself in her life or try an intervention? I'm grateful 628 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: to be communicating with my soon to be ex sister 629 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: in law so I can maintain a relationship with the kids. 630 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: Should I just leave it at that? 631 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Alison? Oh my god? 632 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: What a hot mess? 633 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Hi Allison, Hi, Hi, this is our special guest, Sharon Horgan. 634 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 6: Hi. 635 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: Share, nice to meet you. Y Wow, that's a loss. 636 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: It is feels pretty wreck when. 637 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: Where are all the kids? They're with her ex. 638 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: Yes, they're all, believe it or not, still under one roof. 639 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: For the most part. They haven't legally separated. But right 640 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: now my sister spends a lot of time with her 641 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 4: new girlfriend. 642 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: And do you and your sister talk a lot anyway? 643 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: No? 644 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: Not for how long? 645 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: Well we were up until this happened. And then once 646 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: I found out like how quickly she was moving, how 647 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: fast she wanted to go straight into this new relationship. 648 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: You know, how she wanted to force my sister in 649 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: law to move to Texas because that's where her girlfriend is. 650 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 4: You know, I just felt like. 651 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Good luck with that, by the way, good luck with 652 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: having your girlfriend in Texas. 653 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: So exactly. 654 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh, she sounds pretty unstable in this moment. 655 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: That's very accurate. 656 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: And I think when people are in that kind of 657 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: malstream of emotion like this, and they're using drugs and 658 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: they're trying to lose weight, and they're newly in love 659 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: and she just kind of ditched her family. Is she's 660 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: spending time with her children at all? 661 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: She is, I mean when she's there, but now spending 662 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: extended periods of time away, so she'll go for eight 663 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: and twelve days to go stay with her girlfriend. 664 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: Feels like to me, your relationship with her ex and 665 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: maintaining a relationship with all of her children is more 666 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: of a priority than doing an intervention, because I feel 667 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: like an intervention needs to happen at the last you know, 668 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: like it's not going to be well received in this Yeah, 669 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: she's not going to listen to you in this moment. 670 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: She's in love. 671 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: She's all over the map, and she's using amphetamines. Like, 672 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: there's not a lot for you to grab on to 673 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: you there right now, And I think it is paramount, right, 674 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: do you want to maintain a relationship with her children 675 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: and her ex probably could help with the support emotionally, 676 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: And I would think you're better, your time would be 677 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: better served focusing on them. 678 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely. No, My sister in law has been very open. 679 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 4: She understands that I've been, you know, critical of both 680 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: of them. I don't think it was all my sister's fault, 681 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: and I knew that they were both making really bad 682 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 4: decisions along the way that led to this. But I 683 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: just kept pleading with my sister, like, get therapy, do 684 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: something first. Don't feel like this is the answer that's 685 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: going to change your life, because we all know that 686 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: it's not. 687 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: And but she was she always someone was your sister, 688 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: always someone who like was very sort of steadfast in 689 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: the idea of being right. Do you know what I mean? 690 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Is she that kind of a. 691 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: Press Yeah, I would say, because she came out in 692 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: pretty early in life. She came out in eighth grade. 693 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: And this was back in the eighties when it was 694 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: not acceptable. I grew up in a very traditional Catholic family, 695 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: and so you know, my parents didn't know what to do, 696 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: and it was almost like, even back then, she dug 697 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 4: her heels in, became very rebellious. You know, she wasn't 698 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: going to listen to anyone, and pretty much ever since then, 699 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: that's been her approach, like I'm going to make you 700 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 4: accept me type. 701 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: Of right attitude. Yeah, this is all weirdly familiar to 702 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: me my sisters. Okay, but you know in terms of 703 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: someone's sort of moving on with something else and that 704 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: being their absolute focus and deciding to themselves that this 705 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: is the absolute right thing and this is what I 706 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: should be doing and not really listening. So when you're 707 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of dealing with someone like that, it's sort of 708 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: best to sort of get out of the way a 709 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: little bit. 710 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: I would just save the intervention for when she's in 711 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: a different place. Don't blow that right now, because she's 712 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: not going to She's not going to hear you right now, 713 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: So I think you should have waited out, maintain the 714 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: relationship with the children, try and be there. 715 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: Are you in close proximity to those children. 716 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 6: Now. 717 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm also in Texas, unfortunately, so. 718 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: I get out of there. First things. First, you should 719 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: get out of Texas. I'm trying. 720 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm headed there this weekend. So it's funny 721 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying that because I'm doing a stand up there. 722 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm doing three shows in Texas, so I guess I'll 723 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: bring my water gun for protection. Yeah, but yeah, I 724 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: would just try and interfere with her life right now. 725 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: I would focus on the kids and that maintenance and 726 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: her ex and maintaining a relationship with her so that 727 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: you have access to those children and that they have 728 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: some stability, even if it's you face timing them or 729 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: doing family zooms once a week. Just figure out a 730 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: way to like extend yourself to them during this time 731 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: because it's probably really difficult on them too. 732 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And at first, when my sister in law and 733 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: I started talking, my sister became very angry, and of 734 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: course she accused me of betraying her and things like that, 735 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: and I don't know when she tried to force me 736 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: not to talk to her, and I just said, look, 737 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: that's not going to happen, like. 738 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: No, no, there shouldn't be like boundaries. But that's not 739 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: helpful either. To not to speak to someone is not helpful. 740 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: The whole picking sides thing is like just a quogomire. 741 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: Can you spend any time with them? Can you go 742 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: and spend time with them there? 743 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, actually I'm going at Christmas. We just found out 744 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: her dates when she's going to be gone, and so 745 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: I'll go while she's not there. 746 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: Perfect, Okay, Well that's good. 747 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, prioritize that in the meantime, okay, and then wait 748 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: for an opportunity, you know, wait for a moment of 749 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: vulnerability or a moment when her life really does get 750 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: carried away. 751 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 3: You know. 752 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: But with people who are always defensive and want to 753 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: be right, you know, they're as long as you're like 754 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: arguing a point, you're in defense mode. Because if you're 755 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: an open person, you can actually hear anything anyone says 756 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: without being defensive. And so until she gets there, there's 757 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: really nothing for you to do. 758 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: That's really true. Hey, what's your sister's new partner? 759 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: Like, I mean, I don't know. I haven't talked to 760 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 4: that woman in okay, fourteen fifteen years since she broke 761 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: up with my sister the first time. And like I said, 762 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 4: the only thing I know about how that relationship ended 763 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: was she cheated on my sister, And so I don't 764 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: know what she's like now or what she's been doing 765 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 4: all these years. But I just feel like I know 766 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: my sister needs therapy. She desperately needs to figure out 767 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: what these demons are that have made her so unhappy 768 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 4: even with you know, all the things that she's accomplished 769 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 4: in life, and so running to someone else is not 770 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: going to to make her suddenly happy or fulfill all 771 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: her life dreams. 772 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 5: There is like something I'm sniffing out here too, with 773 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 5: the willingness to sort of dive into this chaos, the 774 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 5: drug use, the alcohol use, that like maybe there is 775 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: some mental illness, Maybe there's some just like emotional dysregulation. 776 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 5: I don't know what else you can do about that 777 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 5: other than to keep saying, like I love you, let's 778 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 5: try therapy that sort of thing, because obviously throwing that 779 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 5: at her is not super helpful, but just for you 780 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: to maybe have kind of in the background of like 781 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: maybe she's using this to sort of like help regulate 782 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 5: some of this emotional cast that she's feeling. 783 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and also just talking to you. 784 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Obviously you're coming from a place of judgment, you know 785 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: what I mean, You're disappointed in her choices and blah 786 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: blah blah, and that's never helpful with that personality type. 787 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: You know, you have to really come from a place 788 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: of love and support, like I know what you can do, 789 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: I know your potential, I know you're going to do 790 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: the you can It's almost like you're flipping the script 791 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: to try and make them believe in themselves a little 792 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: bit more, because people like that. You know, everything you're 793 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: describing sounds like she is masking a lot of stuff. 794 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: So as long as you can try and really not 795 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: pass judgment on her behavior and rather be a support 796 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: system for her and someone she feels safe coming to, 797 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: so that you can kind of build that trust back 798 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: up and hopefully that can lead to something. 799 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 4: It's obviously hard because I love my sister in law, and. 800 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's your sister. I believe me. I'm 801 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 3: so judgmental, but. 802 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 4: You know I care about the kids, and I have 803 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: been divorced before, and I know what that does and 804 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 4: how it tears families apart. So I did try to 805 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: a little bit come from that angle of like, look, 806 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: if you don't want to be married anymore, that's one thing, 807 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 4: but like figure that out before you just go right 808 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: into something new. 809 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we'll keep us post it with whatever progress. 810 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 3: Is made, Okay, let us know. 811 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 5: All right, I will Okay, Thanks Allison, thank you, bye bye. 812 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: I can't believe people are still living in Texas, like 813 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: a lot of them, Sharon, aren't you so happy? 814 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 3: You're not American. 815 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: I really am. You know, it's it's not great in 816 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: London at the moment either, I mean, honestly, it's it's 817 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, all over the world is a bit of 818 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: a shit show. But Ireland. Ireland's not bad at the moment. 819 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: Oh, Ireland sounds like a great place. Are we moving possibly? 820 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to go to an island 821 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: where there is not going to be any no one's cares, 822 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, some tropical place where no one's we're not 823 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: going to be involved in any of all of the 824 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: ship that's happening globally. 825 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we could man make one, you. 826 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: Know, or or buy one together, one like pool our resources. 827 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: I am. I've talked to my friends about my female 828 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: friends about this a lot, Like I think the feature 829 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: is some kind of commune of. 830 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: These conversations I'm having all these conversations with my female friends. 831 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: I mean, every different group of female friends says the 832 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: same thing, like, why don't we all just pull our 833 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: money together and you know, buy some property? 834 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, or so Ireland, that's why not. 835 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: People are happy there, They're happy, they're drinking and happy. 836 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: When do you get to experiencing those things together? 837 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 5: Well, our next caller is Taylor. 838 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: She is thirty six. 839 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: Dear Chelsea, it is Taylor's sweet It is Taylor, she's 840 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: thirty five. 841 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, ooh, just got that tucked right away, Dear Chelsea. 842 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 5: My sister and I were never close growing up, but 843 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 5: became friends as adults. We now have lived in the 844 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 5: same city for ten years, and over those years have 845 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 5: felt like good friends. 846 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: We have sister dates without the. 847 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 5: Husbands, run errands together, and try our best to stay connected. Recently, 848 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 5: I've felt a shift in our relationship. I've always been 849 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 5: the one to initiate our hangouts. That never bothered me, 850 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 5: as being the planner of the family has made me. 851 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: That's been my self appointed role. I had a baby 852 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 5: this year and have had less motivation and time to 853 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 5: arrange hangouts. And now I don't hear from her sometimes 854 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 5: for weeks at a time. It's become very apparent to 855 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 5: me that I was really the one driving the relationship. 856 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 5: I'm afraid to talk to her about this. In the past, 857 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 5: I've had to have a hard conversation with her about 858 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 5: not wanting to babysit her dog anymore. He marked in 859 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: the house. That conversation went pretty badly and she didn't 860 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 5: speak to me for a month. I'm really feeling her absence, 861 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 5: but I just can't get myself to address it with her. 862 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 5: Do I just accept that maybe things have changed and 863 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 5: that's okay, Or do I need to get over myself 864 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: and talk to her no matter what the outcome is, Chelsea, 865 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 5: you have sisters, please help Taylor. 866 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 2: Hi, Taylor, Hi, Taylor, Chelsea, Hi, this is Sharon Horgan, 867 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: our special guest today too. 868 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: What an honor fun you you have to you have 869 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: to talk to your sister. 870 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 7: Actually, there's been an update and I apologize and coming 871 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 7: from my car, I just loved an acupuncture appointment. So yeah, 872 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 7: I sent that email of you months ago. And my 873 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 7: sister and I've always had a very good, strong, loving relationship, 874 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 7: but as sisters go, there's been ups and downs as 875 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 7: we've gone through life. For honestly, it's just gotten so 876 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 7: much better. 877 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna admit. 878 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 7: We never chatted about it directly, but my daughter turned 879 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 7: one a few like a month ago, and a few 880 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 7: months ago it's like she started reaching out and we 881 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 7: started doing things, and so yeah, I don't know if 882 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 7: it was just like the beginning of babies stuff and 883 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 7: we needed some time or what. But you know, there's 884 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 7: ebbs and flows to a sibling relationship. It's it's a 885 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 7: lifetime relationship, right, So. 886 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: And when you have a baby, you're so you know, 887 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: exposed and emotional and sensitive. It's the only time I've 888 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: ever full in that with my sister. Yeah, and we 889 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: had to do I mean, and it was it was 890 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't a long time for that, but it freaked 891 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: me out because we're so tight. And in fact, I 892 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: always felt like my female friendships are so important to me, 893 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: but I would kind of sideline them a little because 894 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: my siblings were just everything. But I was very shit 895 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: around about the time she had her second child, her daughter, 896 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: and I just wasn't around. I think, I don't know 897 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: what was happening, like marriage stuff and work stuff, but 898 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: I was just not very present and I was just 899 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: being a bit useless. And she was so hurt by it. 900 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, she really really felt it, and I was 901 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: having a hard time herself. And it came to a 902 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: point where like she she was like, I don't think 903 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: I want to be around you at the moment, and 904 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: I was just like straight on the phone. We we 905 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: hashed it all out and was really tricky, you know, 906 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: because you kind of have to, you know, swallow a 907 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: lot of pride and say a lot of sorries and 908 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: and just own up to the fact that you were 909 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: being a bit rubbish. But I'm so so glad, we 910 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm so babbidiced. It was scary. Scary when you think 911 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: you'renna fall this sister. Yeah, your sister. 912 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 7: I mean, I can't imagine not having a sister, like 913 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 7: she's my most one of my most important relationships. But yeah, 914 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 7: to your point, I think so much changes when you 915 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 7: have a baby, and there's a lot of raw emotion 916 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 7: and you want this need to be like every all 917 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 7: the women in my life stay close to me. 918 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you are. 919 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 7: Busy and things are kind of falling apart and you're 920 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 7: sleep deprived. So it was almost like we just needed 921 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 7: a few months to kind of like find a new routine, 922 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 7: and I feel like we've really gotten there. 923 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: And also, don't forget when you have a baby, you 924 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: know how hormonal you are and how sensitive that person is, 925 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: Like you're overly sensitized to everything, and every and a 926 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: small like infraction can feel like a big one. And 927 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, so you have to like allow yourself that 928 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: but for future if you guys have any issues, And 929 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: this is to anyone who's listening, I don't believe there 930 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: is any ego involved with your sisters. Like it's not 931 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 2: like a friend where there's some sort of gamesmanship or 932 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 2: you don't know where the other person stands. You know 933 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: at the end of the day that you love each 934 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 2: other and that you have years and years of proof 935 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 2: of that. So like, if you're feeling distant from her, 936 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with going I miss you, I need 937 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: to see you. When am I going to see you? 938 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: I love you, I miss my sissy. Whatever however you 939 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 2: talk to each other, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm 940 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 2: sure that probably would have put a big smile on 941 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 2: her face too, you know, like, oh, you know, sometimes 942 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 2: you don't realize how much distance. I mean, my sister 943 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: just crashed my weekend this weekend and she's like, you know, 944 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 2: we haven't spent time together. She's like, you're always with Simoe, 945 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 2: my other sister. She goes, you know, we haven't spent 946 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: time together like this in months. You're you know, you 947 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: see Simone all the time. And I was like, but 948 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: she invited herself on the trip. She's like, I'm coming 949 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,479 Speaker 2: with you from Brooklyn. I was doing shows all weekend. 950 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm coming to all shows and I'm sleeping 951 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: in your hotel room with you. And I was like okay, 952 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: And we had a great time. 953 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully relate to all of that. I remember that feeling 954 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: of being jealous when one sibling would spend more time 955 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: with than another, like sitting so hurt by it. And 956 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: you know it's the circumstance for geographical reasons or whatever, 957 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,720 Speaker 1: but it's there's always like smaller allegiances within a bigger 958 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: family anyway, you know, like the eldest and the youngest 959 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: of a special thing, and like my brother's have a 960 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: special dying and then as sisters and but yeah, god, 961 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: I remember that terrible feeling of fomo, you know, feeling 962 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: like you've been left. Yeah, some kind of sibling get together. 963 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: It's more fomo than jealousy, Like you're not really jealous 964 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: of your siblings spending time together. We're all part of 965 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: the family. Like I don't own them and they don't 966 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: own me. But you know, my sister invaded my weekend. 967 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 2: We had a great time. We slept in bed, together. 968 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: We giggled our asses off, We had our cousin there 969 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 2: and it was totally fun and great. 970 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 3: And that's how you have to act, you know, if. 971 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 2: You're feeling a little bit, it's not like somebody, it's 972 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: not like you're in a romantic relationship and it's new 973 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: and you have to tiptoe around them. Just be upfront 974 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 2: and be like, I miss you, I want to see you, 975 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: I need a bond. 976 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 5: And I think it's also as the planner, it's also 977 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 5: okay to be like, I don't have the brain power 978 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 5: to plan something right now, but I want to see you. 979 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 5: Can you plan a little outing for us and like 980 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 5: put the onus on her and have it move forward 981 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 5: that way. 982 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 7: So, Chelsea, you're talking about having a trip with your sister, 983 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 7: My sister and I and my daughter, we traveled down 984 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 7: to see my grandmother. My sister and I stayed up 985 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 7: one night talking to like one thirty in the morning, 986 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 7: and we again we didn't like address like I miss you, 987 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 7: but it was like, oh, this is like what we needed. 988 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 3: Since then, it's been really great, so so good. 989 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm glad everything's improved, and have fun and you know, 990 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: good times ahead, Good times ahead. 991 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 7: Only I told Catherine this, The world is very scary 992 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 7: right now. 993 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 3: America is very scary right now. 994 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 7: So holding your family and your community and your friends 995 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 7: like so close and really focusing on that kind of 996 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 7: positive love that you get is like now. 997 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 3: What I'm focusing on. 998 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 7: So no matter what, I my sister's wonderful and she's 999 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 7: empathetic and caring, and I'm like, I just have to, 1000 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 7: you know, we just had to like figure out our 1001 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 7: new relationship with the little baby involved. 1002 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1003 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that is your fault for having a baby 1004 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: in the first place. 1005 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 3: Take some responsibility. I really, why did I do this? 1006 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 3: One day you'll find out. But thanks for calling. You're yeah, 1007 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 3: thanks for calling. Have a great day. So nice to 1008 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: meet you. 1009 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 5: By when they figure out their own problem, I know. 1010 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: I love when we have callers that is like, oh, 1011 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 2: we were going to call in with this, but we've 1012 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: already figured it out. 1013 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: I was way easier than the lost one. 1014 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take a break and we're going 1015 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: to come back and wrap up with Sharon Horgan. 1016 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 3: And we're back. We are back. 1017 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 5: I have one more quickie if we want to, let's 1018 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 5: do a quickie to close it out. 1019 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: We don't want to cut Sharon short of giving advice 1020 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: three times exactly exactly. 1021 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 1: We don't want to take that is my advice? Is it? 1022 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 6: Like? 1023 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 3: No, it's good listen. 1024 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: I think the most important advice anyone could give is 1025 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: being a good listener. And you're a good listener. So 1026 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 2: that's all. That's half the battle, you know what I mean? 1027 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 2: Actually care listening to people's problems, that's it's nice. Yeah, 1028 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, it kind of takes everything away from yourself. 1029 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: So I like this activity. 1030 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1031 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 5: Well, our last question comes from Ariana. Ariana's subject line 1032 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 5: was how do I stop stressing that my baby's sister 1033 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 5: is pregnant? Dear Chelsea, I'm a twenty seven year old 1034 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 5: living six hundred miles away from home. Fairly intentionally, I'm 1035 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 5: the eldest of three girls, and I definitely identify with 1036 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 5: the pros and cons of being the high achieving, controlling 1037 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 5: fixer of an oldest sister. My middle sister and I 1038 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 5: have been slowly growing closer as we've gotten older, which 1039 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: brings me to my current problem. My twenty three year 1040 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 5: old sister has made a fetus with her twenty year 1041 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 5: old boyfriend. They've been together for about a year and 1042 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 5: are quote unquote definitely keeping it. And I'm holding so 1043 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 5: much stress about this. They've moved in with my parents, 1044 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 5: and I feel the stress and anxiety that caused me 1045 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 5: to want to get out of there. I know that 1046 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 5: so many young moms find their way, and none of 1047 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 5: this is to say that she can't be a great mom, 1048 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: but I just don't believe two kids basically without jobs 1049 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 5: should have a baby. So how do I get over this? 1050 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 5: Thank you? Ariana? 1051 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,479 Speaker 3: First of all, this has very little to do with you. 1052 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: So your control freak, your self identified control freak, I'm 1053 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 2: here to confirm that you are. There's nothing you can do. 1054 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 2: She's pregnant. Is that what she means by fetus? 1055 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's not like on the rocks. 1056 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's so unless you're free, Oh 1057 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: that's done. Yeah, So she's not going to convince her 1058 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: to get an abortion, you know what I mean? 1059 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 3: So how do you let it go? 1060 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: You have to actively surrender the idea that this is 1061 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: within your control. It is not within your control. You 1062 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 2: have no say in this matter. This is not your issue. 1063 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: Because it affects your family, it will affect you, but 1064 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 2: you still have no argument, you. 1065 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 3: Have no what's that duck in this race? This race? 1066 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: Duck race? 1067 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: No duck in this race? Okay, you can't. There's nothing 1068 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: you can do, So you have to just understand. You 1069 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: have to really understand that you are not in control 1070 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: of everyone's destiny. The only thing you could control is 1071 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 2: your own behavior and your response to things. And I 1072 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 2: would work really hard on trying to be supportive rather 1073 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: than being combative about this because it's already happening. There 1074 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 2: is nothing you can do, and if you can exercise 1075 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: restraint and the idea of letting go of something that 1076 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: is not your it's not your thing to control. So 1077 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, but you have 1078 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 2: to really understand that and also move forward in life 1079 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 2: understanding that as well. 1080 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 3: You don't get to be in control of other people's lives. 1081 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: Sharing any any thoughts there. 1082 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1083 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: It sounds like she's more sort of worrying about her 1084 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: parents having to, you know, get involved in the baby's 1085 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: life and do the looking after. So like I kind 1086 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: of get that a little bit, but yeah, what are 1087 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: you going to do? 1088 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 3: But I mean totally, but what's she going to do? 1089 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: The parents already let her move in with her boyfriend 1090 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: or husband is a husband and boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend, they'll 1091 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: have the baby, they'll probably break up in a few years, 1092 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: and then they're gonna have to clean up their own mess. 1093 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 3: And your parents already allowed them to move in. 1094 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: Again, not your decision, Like, you're not in charge of 1095 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 2: everyone in your family. You're not gonna force your sister 1096 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 2: to get an abortion, are you. No, you're not gonna 1097 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: force your parents to kick your sister out. No, So 1098 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 2: I would throw my hands up and look at a 1099 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: different direction to see to find a situation you can 1100 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: have an impact on. 1101 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 5: And I think Arianna is like kind of on the 1102 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 5: right track of like she knows it's her own thing 1103 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 5: to deal with. So I would get a therapist so 1104 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 5: you can gripe about this, like, no, it's it's not 1105 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 5: your problem, and it's not your responsibility to help them 1106 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 5: learn these lessons either. 1107 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: But the other thing, too, is the. 1108 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 5: Boyfriend is probably gonna go away at some point, like 1109 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 5: you said, But when there is this baby, and this 1110 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 5: baby actually does come into your life, you're gonna be like, 1111 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 5: holy shit, I love this little niece or nephew. 1112 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: So there will be like a good outcome of it. 1113 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: That's really hard to understand until they're physical right here exactly. 1114 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true, but it did. I was the 1115 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: first person in my family to have a baby and 1116 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: wasn't planned in any way, but I remember bringing her 1117 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: home and my brothers and sisters just like it's a 1118 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: mental limit I have my head. So this day, like 1119 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: all of them just crowded around this tiny little thing 1120 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of my parents' bed, and they were 1121 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: they immediately like fell in love and yep. 1122 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 3: And that's pretty undeniable. 1123 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, once somebody in your family has and 1124 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 2: you obviously care about your family, so I would really 1125 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 2: start to just focus on the positive impact you can 1126 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: have on them moving forward in the future, rather than 1127 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 2: trying to prevent what's happening from happening. 1128 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: Also, you live one hundred and seventy miles away or whatever, 1129 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, six. 1130 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: Hundred Yeah, find a new family if you want so bad, 1131 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 2: if you can. 1132 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 3: Six hundred miles of that bus. What did did you say, six. 1133 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: Hundred miles, six hundred miles that's a different country. Well, 1134 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: there's nothing six hundred oh, six hundred miles. I was 1135 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: saying six thousand there's nothing in this country six thousand 1136 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 2: miles away. Okay, I'm a geographical wizard and a mathematician. Okay, Well, 1137 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see season two of Bad Sisters. 1138 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: Sharon Horrigan. 1139 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: I wait to see. I can't wait for you see 1140 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: it too. And so I love you and I'm so 1141 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: glad we got to do this. Me too, I've been 1142 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: an admirer for years. 1143 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 2: Likewise, and I hope to see you in person one 1144 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 2: day soon, so we can have a cocktail together now 1145 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: that you're back on the sauce, can we just. 1146 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 6: Do that. 1147 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 2: Tail? 1148 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the early morning hours on a flight. 1149 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: At nine am. 1150 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: Okay, we will. We will share it. Thank you so much. 1151 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 1152 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 1153 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 2: Everyone needs to watch Bad Sisters. And if you haven't 1154 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 2: watched the first season, watched the first season first and 1155 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: then go to season two. It's on Apple and it's 1156 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: out now. Okay, guys, stand up shows that I have 1157 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 2: coming up. I am going to Texas this weekend. I'm 1158 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 2: going to Houston. I'm going to Austin, Houston and then Sugarland, Texas. 1159 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: Then I have my Specials taping and Montclair, New Jersey. 1160 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 3: Those are all sold out. 1161 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: I have San Diego on eleven twenty nine that has 1162 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: tickets available. Oh, I'm coming to Vegas on November thirtieth, 1163 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 2: right after Thanksgiving and their tickets available for that. And 1164 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 2: then I'll be in Des Moines, Iowa December fifth. December 1165 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: sixth is Omaha, and then December twenty eighth, I'm coming 1166 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 2: in New Orleans right before New Year's and then I'll 1167 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 2: be in Atlanta, Georgia on December twenty ninth. 1168 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 3: And those are the rest of my stand up dates 1169 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 3: for this year. It's over New Tour New Year. 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