1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light, 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast, 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host, 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about dealing with 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: insects while you hunt. This is a weird one, but 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: you gotta bear with me. The truth about what we do, 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: whether that's I don't know, thinking solely about white tails 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, or turkey hunting or antelope hunting 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, is that there are a lot of elements 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: to any hunt, and really any preseason scouting or prep 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: work that we kind of just gloss over. One of 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: those is the presence of bugs, a category into which 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna lump spiders and scorpions and just about anything 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: that sucks in as gross and could potentially bite your 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: sting you. This episode is all about those creepy crawley 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: bastards and how to deal with them in the preseason 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: and throughout the season. Picture this if you will. Your 22 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: life is as a lab mouse, pretty rough right. The 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: odds are you're gonna be injected with some disease or 24 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: put through some tests that probably I would venture to say, 25 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: are not much fun, not as fun as hanging out 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: with a bunch of lady mice and eating cheese or 27 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: whatever mice daydream of. Nope, you're a lab mouse, and 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: one day some white coated human takes you and puts 29 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: you in a panic and do like maybe showing you 30 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: a video of a snake staring into your little mouse 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: cage all of a sudden. Also introduced into this situation 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: is a cherry blossom, a sweet, smelling, entirely totally innocent 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: cherry blossom. Now, imagine that they do this to you 34 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: several times over the course of a study. And while 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: you don't know what the hell is going on, because 36 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: you're a mouse, you know that every time you see 37 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: a snake, you smell a cherry blossom. Now, before you think, 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: I've totally lost my marbles, and some of them have 39 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: rolled under the couch, and some of them are rolled 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: into the driveway and eventually into the storm drain, to 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: never be seen again. What I'm actually describing was an 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: experiment real scientists did to see if genetics play a 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: role in our fear responses. Specifically, can one generation pass 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: down a fear of something to another generation or several generations. 45 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: What one experiment nature neuroscience study showed was that a 46 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: terrifying experience that changed the genetics of mice in such 47 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: a way it actually manifested itself as a phobia. And 48 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: what's wild is that it passed down through a couple 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: of generations of mice. So even the offspring of those mice, 50 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: when they smelled cherry blossoms, without being exposed to panic 51 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: inducing situations at the same time, still exhibited a real 52 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: and measurable fear response. Even mice that were created with 53 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: in vitro fertilization from those original mice inherited the same 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: fear response. In other words, through a traumatic experience, an 55 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: echo of fear was created that several generations could hear. Now, 56 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: this is just mice, you might be thinking, and those 57 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: scientists probably don't know what the hell they are talking about, 58 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. But the truth is that's pretty wild, 59 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: and it's prevalent in us humans too. If you don't 60 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: think so, ask yourself, why are you so scared as 61 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: snakes or maybe heights, small spaces? What's your phobia, my friends? 62 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Because I bet you have one, and if you don't, 63 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: I bet you know a lot of people who do. 64 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: And also you're probably lying. Now ask yourself, why would 65 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: someone I don't know living in New York City where 66 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: chances of exposure to wild, venomous snakes are probably almost zero, 67 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: Yet you could find plenty of people living there who 68 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 2: have lived there their entire lives, who are terrified as snakes. 69 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: It's not rational, which is the cornerstone of a lot 70 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: of our current phobias. Or I don't know how about 71 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: public speaking. I ever stood in front of a large 72 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: crowd and had to address them sober. That sucks for 73 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: most people, even the repercussions for a bad speech or 74 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: saying something dumb, you know, even they're pretty small, But 75 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: the fear is large, so large, in fact, that it 76 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: creates a real metabolic response, a fear response. Or I 77 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: don't know how about spiders. That's my big one, and 78 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: I freaking hate it. I hate them. I can't describe it. 79 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why it is but I hate spiders. Snakes, 80 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: no problem, heights, mild problem, big cats, bears, whatever, fine, 81 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: But spiders, uh no, thank you. I know, and I 82 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: mean I know this, even if I can't prove it. 83 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: Somewhere way back in my bloodlines, some of my ancestors 84 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: had some rough run ins with spiders and that made 85 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: a scar on our genetics that is visible today. They 86 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: are gross and dumb, and I know they eat a 87 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: bunch of bugs and are mostly gentle and whatever, but 88 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: I just don't care. I don't like them. Of the 89 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: places I want to visit in the world, Australia is 90 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: super low on my list, mostly because of their spider situation. 91 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: But if you hunt, you'll deal with spiders. If you 92 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: set stands in the summer or just live down south 93 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 2: in general, you're going to run into some eight legged buddies. 94 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 2: They're going to show up at your party at some point. 95 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: It just happens. In fact, if you do this stuff enough, 96 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: you'll probably deal with all kinds of creepy crawlees that 97 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: can bite or sting or just generally ruin a good time. Hell, 98 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: there are even caterpillars out there that should be cartoon like, 99 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: fun loving, slow movers that should pose no harm to humans, 100 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: but some, specifically one with a name that I can't 101 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: say on here because people think I'm making it up, 102 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: are covered in soft hairs that actually cover spines that 103 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: will break off in your skin and cause severe pain. 104 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: This is one of the reasons why when I travel 105 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: to hunt Southern States, or maybe to catch some fish 106 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: down there, I'm always leery of all the bugs, even 107 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: the cute ones that look like they should be in 108 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: a Disney cartoon. You never know which little caterpillar or 109 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: fly or whatever is going to send you to the er, 110 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: or at least make you very, very uncomfortable. But they 111 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: are out there and we have to deal with them. 112 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: In fact, if you go out this month to scout 113 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: or hang some stands, or hell crawl across the prairie 114 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: to try to arrow an antelope, you will find yourself 115 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: dealing with bugs and spiders and bees. I have bad 116 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: luck with bees, and I can only attribute it to 117 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: the reality that I spend a lot of time outside 118 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: disturbing the world around me. As I read this, I'm 119 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: fighting the urge to scratch and scratch and scratch. Some 120 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: spots on my legs and some spots way up on 121 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: my legs that might make it look like I caught 122 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: some kind of venereal disease recently. The truth is I 123 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: mowed right over a yellowjacket hive, and those satanic bastards 124 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: took it upon themselves to not only me a few 125 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: times on my lower legs, but also to work their 126 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: way up into my shorts. And this is only speculation 127 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: on my part, so take it for what it is. 128 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: But I think they might have been trying to sting 129 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: me on the old knackers because they got a little 130 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: too close for comfort. Late summer and early fall that's 131 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: bee time. And if you're out hanging stands and maybe 132 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: running a chainsaw to clear out some trails on your 133 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: deer ground, pay attention. I average a couple of stings 134 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: out there a year. And while most situations are just 135 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: painful and leavey, shaking your fist at a dumb insect 136 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: with a weapon on its ass and a poor attitude, 137 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: you can get into trouble you. Obviously, if you're allergic 138 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: to bees, you should know how to keep yourself safe 139 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: and how to get your EpiPen in your hands if 140 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: you need it. But getting whacked a bunch of times 141 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: can cause non allergic folks to have bad reactions too. 142 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: My personal record for one encounter was eight bee stings 143 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 2: while I was hanging stands and my black lab found 144 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: a ground nest that didn't take kindly to a black 145 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: bear looking dog poking her nose into the entrance hole. 146 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: I've had a couple other close calls, like when I 147 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: went to hang a stand one time and I realized 148 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 2: that there was a ground nest below me at the 149 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: base of the tree. So when I figured that out, 150 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: I was like eight feet up, and I realized that 151 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: if I descended in normal fashion like we would all 152 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: get down from our tree stand, I'd have to go 153 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: right through a swarm of perturbed bees. So I executed, 154 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: in at least my assessment, a near perfect dismount out 155 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: of the tree, complete with a barrel roll at the end. 156 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: Think about it this way. They are all over out there, 157 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: and they won't take kindly to you messing with them. 158 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: And what's even more annoying is how often you're in 159 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: a stand minding your own dang business when a couple 160 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: of bees just take a keen interest in you for 161 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: some reason. At least caterpillars never do that shit. You'll 162 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: also deal with mosquitoes, which, according to a lot of people, 163 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: are the deadliest bug out there, since they are vectors 164 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: for bad diseases like malaria. Here in the States, we 165 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: have plenty of mosquitoes, and they can mostly be dealt 166 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: with by wearing clothes that they can't poke through. Sure, 167 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: they're annoying, you know when you hear them buzzing in 168 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: your ear or watch them flying in front of your 169 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: face over and over and over again. But mostly mosquitos 170 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: are pretty easy to handle, at least until they get 171 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: to the point where they are overwhelming. Now, I've had 172 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: this happen down in the Everglades of Florida, and here 173 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: at home in Minnesota, and across the river in Wisconsin 174 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: on those big wood situations where the mosquitoes can be 175 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: a pretty special experience. But I'll tell you what. One 176 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: of the worst mosquito situations I ever found myself in 177 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: was in western South Dakota, of all places, while I 178 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: was hunting antelope. As you may well guess, there isn't 179 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: a ton of standing water in western South Dakota. You're 180 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: as likely to see a bunch of small cactus growing 181 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: than you are to see a wall. But boy, oh boy, 182 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: when you do find standing water at the right time, 183 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: you find every mosquito in the county. And those prairie 184 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: mosquitoes are built with a little extra armor and a 185 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: tenacity that no big woods mosquito can match. I've found 186 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: some of those same style of mosquitos on early season 187 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: velvet hunts in Nebraska too. They are kama Cozi mosquitoes 188 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: that come in hot, and they don't do a whole 189 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: lot of courtesy laps around you to figure out where 190 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: a good spot is to land. They see skin, I guess, 191 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: and they go for it. Mosquitoes can be managed pretty 192 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: good with clothing, as I've said, and a thermicell unit. 193 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: Now they don't pay me. I don't even really know 194 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: anyone who works for the company. I just know that 195 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: if you deal with mosquitos and you need some help, 196 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: that Thermoicella is legit and there isn't a better product 197 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: on the market. Seriously, they're incredible, although you probably wouldn't 198 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: want to use one in an enclosed space, I don't think. 199 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: And yes, the deer can smell them, but they can 200 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: also smell you. If they can smell a thermosol, so 201 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. There's also I don't know the gnats 202 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: and no sums that make early season hunts no fun. 203 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: Oftentimes I end up with itchy gnat bites on my 204 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: forehead and my ears and my hands for my early 205 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: season hunts, which is annoying but not super bad. They 206 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: do have a knack for flying right into your eyeballs, 207 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: which is also real annoying, and no sums can be 208 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: almost worse because well, you can't see them. Do you 209 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: wish we named other critters that way? I do. No 210 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: sums are a pain, and while I've never experienced them 211 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: horribly on any hunt, I have had the displeasure of 212 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: fishing close to mangroves in Florida at first Light, where 213 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: the largest free ranging population of those minuscule blood sucking 214 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: bastards live. And while they made me itch like crazy, 215 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: they made my little girls swell up like little blonde balloons. 216 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: I bet no matter where you live and hunt, you 217 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: probably have some kind of bug in your region that 218 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: causes you fits at certain points of the season. Maybe 219 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: it's scorpions, which I know aren't really a bug, and 220 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: I also have had very limited experience with him. And 221 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm not too sad about that. I've been stung exactly 222 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: one time by a scorpion, and that was enough to 223 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: get me to cross Texas off my list of places 224 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: to live now. My cowboy hat wearing buddies from the 225 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: Lone Star State are pretty nonchalant about scorpions and other 226 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: gross critters because they deal with them all the time. 227 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh they shake out their boots before putting them on 228 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: and look real closely at the ground when they sit 229 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: on it to call turkeys or try to shoot a 230 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: pig or a deer. I do too now when I'm 231 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: down there, but one time I didn't, and I leaned 232 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: right up against a scorpion that probably holds the world 233 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: record for largest stinger. At least it felt that way 234 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: when he shoved it right into my back, which was 235 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: pretty rude. That feeling a throbbing pain and the uncertainty 236 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: of knowing whether I was going to die for a 237 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: really terrible axis deer hunt was not my idea of 238 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: a good time, But it happened where it usually does 239 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: in the outdoors when you're in Texas or quite a 240 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: few states. Now you also have to consider fire ants. Now, 241 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: I've been lucky. I've never had a run in with them, 242 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: at least to the point where I got to learn 243 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: firsthand why they are named as they are. But I've 244 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: seen plenty of them, and honestly, if spiders are on 245 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: my list of creepy crawleys that I really hate, ants 246 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: are probably close second, or maybe third, after bees and wass. 247 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about ants, but if 248 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: you've ever had the displeasure of getting bit by them, 249 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Now. I know we aren't 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: dealing with bullet ants here in the States, at least 251 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: not yet. Probably if we give it enough time, they'll 252 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: make their way to Florida or somewhere, but we do 253 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: have plenty of ants that can ruin your day. I've 254 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: been stung or bitten by a lot of ants a 255 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: few different times, and I'll bet you if I was 256 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: a mouse, my offspring would have a real fear of ants. 257 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: In fact, my one daughter does, so maybe it already 258 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: changed my genes. My worst experience was while I was 259 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: hunting blacktails in California. And this is an estimate on 260 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: my part, but at least a million big black carpenter 261 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: looking type of ants crawled up my legs in the dark, 262 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: and they all waited for the go ahead signal to 263 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: bite me at the same time. It was horrible mooey 264 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: or eblay and made me really appreciate Minnesota winters in 265 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: the five months of brutal cold that comes with them. 266 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: Bugs and spiders and creepy crawleys, they're all over. They 267 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: are a part of our lives as outdoorsmen, and can 268 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: actually even be a positive part. Just think about how 269 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: much Mark Kenyon loves pollinators. Without them, we wouldn't have 270 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: all kinds of food and stuff, and also Kenyan wouldn't 271 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: have anything to weirdly obsess over. Now, a lot of 272 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: those creepy crawleys out there, they're actually not They're not 273 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: really threatening at all, and they're mostly welcome around us. 274 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: Butterflies are a good example. I've never felt threatened by 275 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: a butterfly ever, draggonflies or another. I spent quite a 276 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: few hours watching dragonflies hunt over high country water holes 277 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: last September while waiting on a bull elk, and if 278 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: there is a more impressive hunter out there, I'm not 279 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: sure I've seen it. Sometimes bugs can be entertainment, and 280 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: sometimes they can just be a part of the whole 281 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: experience well without causing us extreme pain or multi generational phobias. 282 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: They aren't a reason to stay home, obviously, but in 283 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: certain environments, at certain times, they can be a reason 284 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: to be super cautious. Think about that as you head 285 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: out with the best intentions to watch a bachelor group 286 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: of bucks as the clock winds down to the most 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: wonderful day of the year, the deer opener. Or maybe 288 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: you aren't quite there yet, but know that a bunch 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: of trees have fallen down across your favorite access trail. 290 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: It's time to fire up the old chainsaw and get 291 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: to cutting. Maybe it's as simple as taking a pole 292 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: saw on your favorite ladder stand to trim up a 293 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: few trees around those stand and open up some shooting lanes. 294 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: Make sure there isn't a paper wasp nest in one 295 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: of those shot blocking limbs. Trust me on that one. 296 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: Or maybe you have a hunt book to a new state, 297 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: a new environment, and you're laser focused on killing whatever 298 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: animal happens to be on the menu. That's great, develop 299 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: a good plan, work with what your outfit or advises, 300 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: or whatever the DIY forums tell you to do, but 301 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: also remember that if you're from Pennsylvania or Wisconsin or 302 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: somewhere and you decide to go hunt I don't know 303 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Arizona coups deer, you better check your sleeping bag for 304 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: unwanted snuggle buddies. You don't want to start a cuddle 305 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: puddle with a scorpion, and if you do, go seek help, 306 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: professional help. Please and please keep listening to this podcast 307 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: because I'm going to talk about more stuff next week. 308 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: Stuff that might help you kill a deer, for example, 309 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: or to put it in another way, stuff that might 310 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: help you kill a big buck early in the BO 311 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: season or later in the BO season sometime maybe gun 312 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: season two, whatever. Just listen. This has been the Wired 313 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: to Hunt Foundation's podcast, which is brought to you by 314 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: First Light. 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