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Speaker 3: Hello, Oh, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Super old and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, January twenty third, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I'm J Skeith here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: show lined up here. We got tweeted the night testing

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Speaker 1: does have that we got? Is this news? Some headlines

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Speaker 1: to debate whether or not they're newsworthy. But we start

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Speaker 1: with all of the points. You get some points, and

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Speaker 1: you get some points. It felt like Oprah last night

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, everybody getting points. Let's start with a

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Speaker 1: sixer star Joel Embiid scoring seventy points to break Wilt

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain's sixers franchise record in a victory over Webbin Yama

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Speaker 1: and the Spurs. Wow, crazy night just watching basketball with

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Speaker 1: that going on, kat having the stats he had in

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Speaker 1: the first half, and we'll get to that game and

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Speaker 1: then Katie later. Yeah, I mean, just a wild night,

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Speaker 2: It was wild. And watching Joel Embiid first felt like

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Speaker 2: he wanted this thing going up against one Banya. He

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Speaker 2: was very aware that this new star, this rookie was

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Speaker 2: in the first two minutes, just stepping into them looking great.

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Speaker 2: So I think he wanted to go at him. And

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Speaker 2: I think what benefited him against one By Yama as

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Speaker 2: they matched up real quick. It wasn't like the Mbid

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Speaker 2: Yokich that people were complaining about last week. I want

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Speaker 2: to see Embid versus your every single possession you got

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Speaker 2: Embiid versus Wemby. But Wemby was giving him space because

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Speaker 2: he didn't want to go gut to gut. He didn't

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Speaker 2: eighty pounds heavier than he is and that's just too big.

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Speaker 2: So and Beid was just stroking it and I think

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Speaker 2: Wemby would have been just a little bit more beneficial

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Speaker 2: of just trying to close that space a little bit

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Speaker 2: because he can block shots like length. Yeah. But anyways,

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Speaker 2: point is and Be just got hot and then he

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Speaker 2: is just larger than everybody out there. When Wemby went

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Speaker 2: everybody else, he was just able to get every single shot,

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Speaker 2: and I say he wanted it. He shot the ball

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Speaker 2: forty times in this game. That's his all time high

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Speaker 2: of his career. A lot of shots, yeah, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of it was because those offensive rebounds they're just

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Speaker 2: he had to do it. As he sat down in

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Speaker 2: Spurs were able to keep it close. So he came

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Speaker 1: Eighteen boards, five assists, and he's the first player in

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Speaker 1: Just an insane night. Also, like the perfect storm, it

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Speaker 1: You know, the way he got his seventieth point was

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Speaker 2: what does he do. He literally just put his arm

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Speaker 1: My favorite tweet from last night I saw Burton tweet it.

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Speaker 1: geeky stats, but the game score sixty two point five.

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Speaker 1: It's the third highest ever registered in the Basketball Reference database.

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Speaker 1: Right when we get to cat it was. It held up.

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Speaker 1: This is like ninety minutes before tip Pop says, you

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Speaker 1: But that's what makes him be special, right, the size

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Speaker 2: purchase through this, the Diamond Valley interest there, the bankruptcy there,

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Speaker 2: So I just wonder if the games are you know

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Speaker 2: that is I'm interested just where it's going here because

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Speaker 2: the games in baseball and basketball seemed to be going

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Speaker 2: to Amazon Prime. And we just saw that the WWE

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Speaker 2: is going to be on Netflix for ten.

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Speaker 1: Years starting in twenty twenty five. Ye for ten years.

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Speaker 2: They paid five billion dollars. Amazon or excuseing Netflix in

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Speaker 2: WWE on their chance. The NBA next Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: and again like the guy that's Scott it going is

432
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Speaker 1: pulled a couple times in the fourth. I get some

433
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Speaker 1: of it was for defensive reasons. I get that, but wow,

434
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Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough pill to swell there and this,

435
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't get enough from his other guys either,

436
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 1: and had a bad game. They were missing bunnies inside.

437
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: Cat missed a lay up inside, McDaniels missed a layup inside.

438
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 1: Go bear could have grabbed that rebound, didn't.

439
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Speaker 2: You know?

440
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: There was like those small little things added up.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently Anthony Edwards was sick coming into this game,

442
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: so he was questionable. He obviously didn't look good. Good

443
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: teammate trying to get it going for a cat, But

444
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 2: they just stood out there thinking, oh, we got this

445
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: huge double digit lead against Charlie Harnt, let's just chuck

446
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: And yes, Karl Anthony Towns was definitely followed by reaching

447
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier on that play before he got blocked. There's

448
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Speaker 2: no doubt, but it was kind of hard to see

449
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Speaker 2: for the referees. I don't know why I want to

450
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 2: make excuses for the referees, but he was plowing into

451
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: two other guys that weren't Terry Rozier, and Terry Rozier

452
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: kind of reached, so they were kind of looking at

453
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Speaker 2: the other two guys. That being said, yeah, it stinks

454
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Speaker 2: it should have been.

455
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Speaker 1: Called final game. We'll touch on here because I guess

456
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Speaker 1: we got to get to a trade. Kevin Durant scored

457
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Speaker 1: forty three, forty three points. Come on, what is that?

458
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Speaker 1: As we two he hits the game winning shot though

459
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: the most important too, as the Suns rallied from twenty

460
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Speaker 1: three down to beat the Bulls one fifteen to one

461
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Speaker 1: to thirteen. I highly recommend you go check the final

462
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Speaker 1: five or six minutes of this game. The shot making

463
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Speaker 1: some controvert I would say, calls that were either overturned

464
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Speaker 1: or maybe missed, especially from the Bull side of things.

465
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Speaker 1: But Katie, the shot at the end there just incredible,

466
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Speaker 1: like a like sort of a double clutch shot. I mean,

467
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Speaker 1: Cruse is all over him, so he sort of just

468
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Speaker 1: hangs up in the air little bit, throws a little

469
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Speaker 1: pump bake in the air and then still splashes it

470
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Speaker 1: nice pass from Nirk to there because that was after

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Speaker 1: the Bulls had a foul to give, So Katie just

472
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Speaker 1: stood there at the top. Cruiser just stood there. Clock

473
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Speaker 1: winded down from like twenty two seconds, Katie's finally started

474
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Speaker 1: making a move. CRUSI feld them because they had a

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Speaker 1: foul a give and they had to inbound it on

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Speaker 1: the side. I was concerned they weren't even gonna get

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Speaker 1: the ball to Kati at first, but Nirk found him

478
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Speaker 1: and he hit a hell of a jumper there to

479
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Speaker 1: seal the deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we're just talking about this last shot because

481
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Speaker 2: it was really incredible. It was it was It was

482
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Speaker 2: so beautiful to see Nirk inbowt inbound at the three

483
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Speaker 2: point I'm beyond the three point line where Durant was standing,

484
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Speaker 2: and Cruiser may have been looking a little bit more

485
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 2: at Nurkic a little too much, so he was slow

486
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Speaker 2: to recover to Kevin Durant, but he got there enough

487
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Speaker 2: fast enough to just put his hand up and try

488
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Speaker 2: and fly by. Yeah, and block the shot, and Durant

489
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: realized it, so he brought the ball down as Cruso

490
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Speaker 2: went over it and then was able to shoot. So

491
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Speaker 2: he was hanging in the air while he brought it

492
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Speaker 2: down and was able to shoot it. It's beautiful. This

493
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Speaker 2: is an anniversary of ours for yeah, eighteen years been

494
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Speaker 2: doing the show. It's hard to remember shots like that.

495
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Speaker 2: I literally I can't. I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: You remember it next week?

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Speaker 2: The question, Yeah, yeah, no, no, but no, really we

498
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Speaker 2: need you. Is that Is there a huge accumulation of

499
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Speaker 2: double clock shots like that? I don't think yeah, especially

500
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Speaker 2: especially the camera angle. Maybe it's because the camera angles

501
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: aren't all that good years over years since we've been

502
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Speaker 2: doing this show. But there was a great camera angle

503
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: from the other end of the floor where he just

504
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: zoomed in to see Crusoe almost fly by and block it. Yeah,

505
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: but Durrance said, nah, I'm I'm so fricking talented. I

506
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: can drop the ball an inch, so you just fly

507
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Speaker 2: by and then hit the shot money as he was.

508
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: You mentioned all the shots that were being made. That

509
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: was kay d stuff, right.

510
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had a big three that was off

511
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Speaker 1: after a rebound there. I think Beal had missed a shot.

512
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: He sort of stayed with it though. I think U

513
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: Bank's got credit for the rebound that one got kicked

514
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Speaker 1: out and killing it big three. But there was a

515
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: like crazy overturned call on Derozen. Yeah, classic Drozeen baseline

516
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: sort of fadeaway jumper I believe, originally called a foul

517
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Speaker 1: on the Suns. They challenged saying, now DeRozan's kicking his

518
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: legs out and Drozen had hit the shot too, and

519
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 1: they looked at it. They said, yeah, you know what,

520
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: you're right, offensive foul. That was a big, big play.

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Speaker 1: That was like with a couple of minutes left, and

522
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Speaker 1: then there was a couple other ones where I thought

523
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Speaker 1: there was maybe some contact. But yeah, the Sun's pulled

524
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Speaker 1: off to rally from twenty three back. I mean, it's

525
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Speaker 1: a hell of a comeback.

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Speaker 2: It looked like a bull knight for sure.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm shocked. And Derozen was then hitting his shots.

528
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Speaker 1: That's why I recommend you go check the highlights because

529
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Speaker 1: it was great shot making, like DeRozan was doing his thing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, a little too much KD with a season

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Speaker 1: high forty three for Katie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on a day when he said that he should

533
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Speaker 2: be in the Grace of all time conversation. Yeah, he

534
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: has to throw it out there, and he's always labeled

535
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Speaker 2: as the best score, which just kind of reduces what

536
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Speaker 2: he did in the NBA because you just mentioned him

537
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: as a score. Hey, Harden, it's a great score. Oh yeah,

538
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: what about the other stuff? Well, Durant did win a

539
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: couple of championships, but obviously the Golden State thing kills him.

540
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Speaker 1: But we're talking greatest of all time.

541
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Speaker 2: We're getting into it.

542
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Speaker 1: You're getting to a list of three, four or five guys.

543
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: Do you believe Katie's that high? No, I think he's

544
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: second tier, right, yeah, where he's at least right now,

545
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's still playing.

546
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, get another one, Get another one.

547
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's different. And then just quickly other scores. The

548
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: cast crushed the Magic for their eighth straight win. This

549
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: is one of the most surprising stories, I would think

550
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA. With no Garland and Mobley, they continue

551
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: to win. Giannis had a triple double, Books pull Bucks

552
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, pulled away late against the Pistons. Tatum and

553
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: Brown helped the Celtics overcome Lucas triple double form the

554
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: win Jared Jackson Junior had twenty seven points in a

555
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: win against the Raptors, and Harrison Barnes scored thirty two

556
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Speaker 1: as the Kings beat the Hawks. They snapped their four

557
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: game skid. Any of those games you want to touch.

558
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Speaker 2: On, well, that Calves Magic game. It's it's miraculous what

559
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: these Calves have become. They destroyed the magic primarily with

560
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: their three point shooting. And that's what they've done since

561
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: they had two huge guys in terms of their stardom

562
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: they've been out for so long, in Darius Garland and

563
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Evin Mobley. So this team became something different as they

564
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: were trying at the beginning while everyone was healthy, but

565
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: then they became this three point shooting team and it's

566
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: really goes through Donovan Mitchell. And because of the three

567
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: point shooters that they've put on the floor since Mobile

568
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: and Garland have been hurt, you can't double Mitchell and

569
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: you're like watching Tumo KK guard him, who is an

570
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: OKK defender, but he can't guard Mitchell on one on one.

571
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: He just can't happen. So Donovan Mitchell so just finding

572
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: guys and Sam Merrill, who is now a big part

573
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: of this rotation coming off the bench was eight of

574
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: thirteen from three point Lane strews multiple threes, Dean Wade

575
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: multiple threes. Who's starting for Evan Mobley? Now? It just

576
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: makes me ask does Evan Mobley start when he comes back.

577
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: I know he is Evan Mobley and he's a very

578
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: good player, but the space that Dean Wade creates is different.

579
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: It's it's just different up there. Evan Mobley doesn't shoot

580
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: the threes. He came in. For two years he took,

581
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: you know, a couple threes a game that's now been reduced.

582
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: It was one point three threes per game, you know,

583
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: at least fired them away, and now he kind of

584
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: takes a three every two games. It's reduced. So this

585
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: something that we all expected for Evan Mobley to expand

586
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: his game to hasn't happened. And I don't know. I

587
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: don't know if Evan Mobley, this guy who's in the

588
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year talks, I don't know if he starts.

589
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: Because JB. Bickerstaff, head coach, said, we obviously understand you

590
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: want to get as many layups as you possibly can,

591
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: but with our person that's there now, we can stretch

592
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: the floor. We've got quick triggers and no conscience, so

593
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: we want to take advantage of that. You know, they

594
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: took forty three threes against the Hawks, and then guys

595
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: just firing away yesterday against a very good Magic defensive team,

596
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: hitting twenty threes, and then you make Mitchell look so

597
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: much better just because of all that space exactly. And

598
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: Jared Allen is their starting center and he can hit

599
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: shots too, not three point shots. But I don't think

600
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: you want two guys, No.

601
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Need two of those guys.

602
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's interesting to see.

603
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff. They continue to rack up the wins. Good

604
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: stuff there from the cast. Okay, we got to take

605
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: a break and then we got to figure out our

606
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: B block, and now ready to do this because we

607
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: do have a trade to discuss that broke during the show,

608
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: and we have a bunch of other headlines. So don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere. We'll be right back all right, still here

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Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory. If you're joining us live on

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Speaker 1: YouTube or even watching later, hit the like button, make

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Speaker 1: sure you subscribe, and podcast listeners help us out five

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Speaker 1: star ratings and reviews. So how do we want to

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00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: tackle this?

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Speaker 4: Boys, Well, well we'll do. Is this news staying? Then

616
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: go right to the trade. That's the biggest news. Okay,

617
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 4: now what do you want to do?

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00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Are you on slack right now? Probably not, You were

620
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: just doing an ad reach it. I say we just

621
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: start by talking about this, Okay, just bro it is

622
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: this news, and we'll just get rid of the lowry

623
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: headline that we had in is this fair enough? There

624
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: we go. That's how the sausage gets made. The Charlotte Hornets.

625
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: This is a mini WOJH bomb while we were live.

626
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Oh we love it. That's why we do it live. Baby.

627
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: The Hornets are trading guard Terry Rosier to the Miami

628
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Speaker 1: Heat for a twenty twenty seven first round pick and

629
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Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry. That first round pick in the deal does

630
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: include protections. Okay, I'm sure we'll be finding out about

631
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: those protections. But here we have Rosier, who's having an

632
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: awesome year. I mean, we just talked about how graat

633
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: he played there in the fourth in a win over

634
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: the Walls last night. He's averaging twenty three point two

635
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: points per game, six and a half assists, basically four boards,

636
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: and he is making his way to the Miami Heat

637
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: task and it all all it took was was Lowry,

638
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: who was coming off the bench. Wasn't all that happy

639
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: about that and that first round pick, so that's had

640
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: to be attached to Lowry there. We also have word

641
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: from Woes that the Hornets have no immediate plans to

642
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: work on a buyout with Lowry and are expected to

643
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: see if they can work another trade for him before

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Speaker 1: the deadline. So Lowry might be on the move, maybe

645
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Speaker 1: to a more of a contending team where he can

646
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: come off a bench and help a team. But anyway,

647
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: Terry Rozier going to Miami, what do you think?

648
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: You first shocked but also pleased that rumors come true.

649
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: This was a rumor that we're going to talk about today.

650
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Is the Charlotte Hornets definitely a seller when it comes

651
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: to this trade deadline just a mere two weeks away,

652
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: and the Miami Heat have been looking all season long

653
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: for a potential scoring guard, even in the preseason. There

654
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: was the Damian Lillard talk obviously, and they've now added

655
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier, who is a really good scorer that we

656
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: talk about here on the show, because the guy is

657
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: definitely not talked about a lot when you go and

658
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: talk about the Charlotte Hornets. LaMelo Malls talked about first

659
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: and foremost, and Rosier doesn't get a lot of the credit,

660
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: but he is extremely good. I definitely wondered when Kyle

661
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Lowry went to the bench for two games and he

662
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: said he wanted to get back into the starting lineup,

663
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: what the heat we're doing exactly, because I can understand

664
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: making Tyler Herro starter every single game this season and

665
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: having Kyle Lowry beside him. Even though this is a

666
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: really good defensive team, it's smaller. It's a smaller backcourt,

667
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: and Lowry gives it on the defensive end. But you

668
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: may want to get a little bit larger, but they

669
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: just go with Terry Rozier, who when I made when

670
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: I went to the trade machine today, I was thinking

671
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: that Terry Rozier would get there. But he is also

672
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: extremely small. They're extremely happy to have Heimi Hakis with

673
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Butler and Adebayo to add that size there at him

674
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: being sort of relentless as a rookie. So those three

675
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: guys are definitely gonna play. Those will be the defensive

676
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: guys there, but I guess you'll see some other lineups.

677
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: I wonder if the heater done is basically what I'm saying,

678
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: because Rosier probably will come off the bench and beer

679
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: six man lighting it up on this team if Tyler

680
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: hero is starting, which I understand because you want to

681
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: change it up a little bit. But Kyle getting you know,

682
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: first round pick.

683
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: We have, we have, by the way, the protections on that,

684
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: and yes, it's not horrible. What was just saying that

685
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: in the Rosier deal, Miami's first round pick is lottery

686
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: protected in twenty twenty seven and then unprotected should it

687
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: convey in twenty twenty eight. So there is that, So

688
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: it's a future pick.

689
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: There's that Terry's gonna out. This was what it comes

690
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: down to. The guy can score, and the guy can

691
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: score on his own, and so that's why I probably

692
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: think he's going to be their sixth man. I think

693
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna light it up from the bench.

694
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've talked about it before. You know, he's

695
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: sort of been lost in Charlotte where they haven't had

696
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: a lot of success recently, but he has played in

697
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: playoff series before, you know, back in the Celtics days.

698
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: He's been there, has a lot of playoff experience, so

699
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: you know it shouldn't be shocked when the Heat are

700
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: in a playoff series and should be okay. There also Lowry. Again,

701
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: we were coming into this show with the headline about

702
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: this rumor I had in my notes here. I'm pretty

703
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: sure Miami's gonna have to attach a first round pick

704
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: with Lowry to go and get someone like Rosier, and

705
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: that's ended up what they had to do. But Lowry,

706
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old in March, he is in the

707
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, arguably the worst stretch of his Heat career,

708
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: at least task when it comes to shooting. I mean,

709
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: this guy, Lowry one of my favorite players of all time,

710
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: the groat, the greatest raptor of all time. He was

711
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: shooting sixteen points seven percent over his last five games.

712
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: He hadn't hit a three pointer in his last five games.

713
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: He was averaging two points per game. I know it's

714
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: a small sample size, but we're talking some minutes too.

715
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: This is not five six minutes a game. He's playing

716
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes a game. So he had just been

717
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: brutal for them. Not surprisingly, they had lost their last three.

718
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: They lost to the Raps, they lost to the Hawks,

719
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: they lost to the Magic, And yeah, he was coming

720
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: off the bench for a couple of those and wasn't

721
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't seem all that excited about that. Then we saw

722
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: was it last night? Oh Kyle Lowry on social media

723
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: he stopped following all the Heat players. Oh, he removed

724
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: the Heat thing from his bio. So the writing was

725
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: on the wall and he goes to Charlotte for now.

726
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be there long. And

727
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: I really like this move from the Heat getting Terry

728
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Rozier some more scoring punch.

729
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: They need a better offense. They ranked like twentieth in

730
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: the NBA in offense, and that's why they were so

731
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: focused on getting someone rumored to be Damian Lillard before

732
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: the season started, because even though they made the NBA Finals,

733
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: Jimmy needs some help offensively, and so I think Rosier

734
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. I do wonder who that

735
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: starting shooting guard is going to be. If it will

736
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: be just Hyman Hawkes and Jimmy Butler and Bam in

737
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: the front court and then Tyler Hero alongside. Could it

738
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: be Josh Richardson. You know, you're like, you're twenty eleven

739
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: MAVs that won it all. They started Deshaun Stevenson at

740
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: the shooting guard spot somebody who can play d but

741
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: not necessarily play more than twenty minutes, right, and then

742
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: you can change it up and get Jason Terry in

743
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: that case, or Terry Rozier in this case to come

744
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: off the bench to light it up, because they are

745
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: going to be a good defensive team. I always wondered

746
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: about their size, but I guess Hockkes is going to

747
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: be their starting power for but he's a little undersized.

748
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just thinking. I'm thinking long term.

749
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm thinking what this team becomes here with Terry Rozier.

750
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: But maybe they're not done or it's yeah, heywood high Smith,

751
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: they've got guys and obviously spoils trous set Lowry yeah,

752
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: because he wasn't playing all that incredibly well, No offensively.

753
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: Again, he's thirty eight soon it's old, I mean, and

754
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: for a guy that plays the way he does as well,

755
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: and maybe it's caught up to him a little bit.

756
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Does he have a little bit left in the tank

757
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: to help a contending team? I think so, But it

758
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: would have to be sort of in a you know,

759
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: obviously as a guy on a bench in the locker room,

760
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: and then maybe changing the outcome of a quarter over

761
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: a half in a playoff series. But we'll see where

762
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: he lands and if he gets moved. But yeah, I

763
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: like the Heat like this to me, Like they're they're like, no,

764
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: this is still open in the East. We still believe

765
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: in any matchup. We can be a team in a

766
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: seven game series. We've done it before, why not now.

767
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: And they're adding more talent here, which is sort of

768
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: cool to see, you know, And it's costing them a

769
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: future pick, yeah, which could be a decent pick, you know,

770
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: but they don't care for that right now. It's right

771
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: all about this this second.

772
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: It's always all about that with the Miami Heat, they

773
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: always want to go for it. But also Jimmy Butler

774
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: has played hard for his NBA career. He is thirty

775
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: four years of age. He is getting a little bit older,

776
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: and I can understand why they're sort of going for

777
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: it right here right now. Yeah, they're trading Kyle Lowry.

778
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 2: Somebody will put him in the Hall of Fame one day,

779
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: but it is unfortunate. But this is when the Raptors

780
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: trade him. It was three years ago and now you know,

781
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: almost almost three years ago. This is the end of

782
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: his contract that Miami was willing to give him three

783
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: years ninety million dollars back then. This is the thirty

784
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: that he's making this season. But I do think, yes,

785
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: we'll try and send him somewhere or make a little

786
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: buy out a deal with.

787
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: If they can't get anything in return, I would think, so.

788
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's somebody's gonna want him as a backup card.

789
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: And we can't think of lots of teams. So there's

790
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 2: all this talk about the Knicks wanting to bring in

791
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: a complimentary shooting type of guard off the bench, you know,

792
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: at Jordan Clarkson or something like that. But sometimes with

793
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: that team they've got Jalen Bredson, they could use the

794
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry is all I'm thinking right now.

795
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: All right, very exciting stuff. Trade happening during the pod.

796
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: We love to see it. Okay, let's get to a

797
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: little is this news, Tassie, You got the headlines? Yeah, yeah,

798
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I guess we're ditching the Lowry one.

799
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: We don't need to be a ditch that one. Yeah. Yeah.

800
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: This is the segment where we tell you everything you

801
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: need to know in basketball or is it who knows?

802
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: This is this news? We start with the Chicago Bulls.

803
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Zaclavian rolled his ankle against the Raptors couple or five

804
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: days ago, went off the floor, threw a towel. Is

805
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: very angry because this was an injury coming off on

806
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: more another injury, so he is a little upset. It's

807
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: only a couple weeks until the trade deadline. Yeah, he's

808
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: been rumored to be in trades. So the article from

809
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: The Athletic here zack Lavine's injury clouds Bulls trade prospects

810
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: as deadline nears? Is this news skeets?

811
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: I guess it is, yes, because it makes already what

812
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: was going to be a tricky trade situation even trickier, right,

813
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is we have to

814
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: consider before the injury, what team is comfortable absorbing zach

815
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Lavine's contract three years, approximately one hundred and thirty eight

816
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: million left on that deal, including a forty nine million

817
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: dollar player option in twenty six twenty seven, which he'll

818
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: probably pick up. So there's that. Then you had to

819
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: figure out which team is comfortable even just fitting zach

820
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: Lavine into their to their lineup, and is he their

821
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: second guy, their third guy and all of that, how

822
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: he fits on court and now a team, in theory,

823
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: must be comfortable for the lack of a better term

824
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: taking on damaged goods right now, if this deal is

825
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: to happen sort of here before the deadline. You know

826
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: he's got the sprain right ankle. It's going to keep

827
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: him in a couple of weeks. He's also missed a bunch

828
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: of time this year. And then on top of all

829
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: that task yeah, you know, to put a tack under

830
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: your ass and make even more uncomfortable. It's no secret

831
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: that the Bulls have performed better without zach Lavine this year.

832
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: So there's that part of the equation too. Now I

833
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: know he came back here, he definitely was like trying

834
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: to be more of a team player. Absolutely maybe trying

835
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: to help the trade value. I don't know what was

836
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: going on there, but the Bulls eleven and eight without

837
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: zach Lavine in the lineup. It could be eleven and nine. Now,

838
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I forgot to maybe add the loss to the Suns

839
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: last night, but ten and fifteen with zach Lavine. So

840
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: there's this whole part. So I guess this is newsworthy

841
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: just because it's like ill timed and doesn't it doesn't

842
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: help any sort of hypothetical return package the Bulls may

843
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: or may not receive from any of these teams because

844
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: now the guys got a bum ankle, and you know

845
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: you should be able to come back from sprain ankle.

846
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but it's it doesn't help. It

847
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: doesn't help the idea of like, ooh, an enticing offer

848
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: getting more enticing because teams are like, you know, really

849
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: trying to get zach Lavine. By all accounts, there's very

850
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: little interest in what really is the contract not the player.

851
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: No right, because zach Lavine did good enough when he

852
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: came back from that first injury. He played hard enough.

853
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: He told Kobe White, who is now the starting show

854
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: shooting guard ers the starting point guard, but also everything

855
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: sort of running through him. He told him, I'm here

856
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: to make you better. I'm here to not get in

857
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: your way. And that's that's something that they shared, and

858
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: to me, that's a great sign. I think he's also

859
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: showcasing himself in general because he knows how good he

860
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: can be. He is an incredible scorer, and he knows

861
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: that there are other teams watching, specifically the Los Angeles Lakers,

862
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: as we always have to talk about. But I think

863
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: being smart and showing the Los Angeles Lakers that he

864
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: can play off the ball, that he doesn't necessarily have

865
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: to have everything go through him the entire time. It

866
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: was fitting if I think, I think it fit well

867
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: with him coming off the bench, primarily when he came

868
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: back and Uh and even trying to fight through that

869
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: ankle injury.

870
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: So I I do you think this still means he'll

871
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: be traded in the next two and a half weeks

872
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: that we're at.

873
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think this really changes how much other

874
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: teams want him. Does it change if he gets traded

875
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: or not? Will he get traded? I don't know. I

876
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: don't I'm not picking up the calls Uh in the

877
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: front office there with with with Eversley, and I'm just

878
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: not Yeah, an Aka, I'm not. I'm not picking it up.

879
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: So I don't know. But I do think they're listening.

880
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: I know they're they're somewhat wouldn't say entirely pulling the plug,

881
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: but they're somewhat pulling the plug. If they signed vouch

882
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: Uh to a contract before this season, he's there, it's

883
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: he tradable. Damar is a free agent this offseason. Tradeable,

884
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: there's there's lots.

885
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: So Alix Caruso is one player that a lot of

886
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: people probably want. But should they trade him? Yeah, do

887
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: you trade him at you know this at a high

888
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: level that he's playing at right now, and maybe you're

889
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: cashing in there like his Caruso going to be a

890
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: part of your long term plan and if he's not,

891
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: then maybe you do catch them.

892
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, decisions, right, they do. And so Carnich just

893
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: is taking the calls absolutely about all these guys. He

894
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: is discussing all these guys. But as you mentioned about

895
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: those dollar dollar bills that are owed to Levine, those

896
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: are Yeah, it's it's a lot of money. They signed

897
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: him to a huge deal when things were going really well,

898
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: when Lonzo Ball was balling for them and things were

899
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: looking great, and then bang, it's all over. It all

900
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: changed for them with Lonzo Ball out. So TBD if

901
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: anybody gets stalt all right, Next one, Kyle Lowry, Oh no,

902
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: we're not doing anymore. We're talking uniforms with this next one.

903
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: One specific part of them. We've all noticed as basketball geeks,

904
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: each team has more jerseys and where they are that

905
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: they've changed. The jerseys have changed. They've added so many

906
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: another one from the Athletic. Okay, the Athletic dot com

907
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: slash no dunks for a good deal right now if

908
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: you want an athletic descripsion, Yeah, the Athletic Listen this

909
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: article why NBA home teams have stopped wearing white jerseys. Baby,

910
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: this was news to me. Is this news to you?

911
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: This is news to you?

912
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? I got geeked out.

913
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Mike working Off, I think he does

914
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: a great job sort of like covering the I guess

915
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: business side of things, if you want to call it

916
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: that in the sports world. I learned some things in

917
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: this article that we can go through, but I wouldn't

918
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: say this is newsworthy. Teams haven't been wearing their white

919
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: home jerseys for like a long time now, Yeah, and

920
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: the reason is dalla dolla bills, right, And that's what

921
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Mike says in the article. Teams want to make sure

922
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 1: these new city edition jerseys, these zany designs, the ones

923
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: that the kids want, whatever, that they get enough appearances

924
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: in their own home markets so the fans see them

925
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: and go, oh, that's a cool jersey, Dad, I want

926
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: that wild jersey. Okay, let's go to the store and

927
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: grab it right. You know, you do this around the

928
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: holidays too, and people are shopping for gifts and stuff

929
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: like that, so you just create these favorite environments to

930
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: show them off, build an affinity for them, and maybe

931
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: people are going to buy them. So that's not that

932
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: Part's not news really because we've been doing this for

933
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: a while now. Like nobody wears basically white at home.

934
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the sons are wearing their white jerseys at.

935
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: Home last Night's surprising.

936
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I actually like it. I do like it. I'm a

937
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: bit of a traditionalist. I don't mind it, but I

938
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: understand why they don't because all these new jerseys they make,

939
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: they want to sell, so you got to show them

940
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: off to your fan base, is the thinking. I think.

941
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just liked it how they went into detailed.

942
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: Nike took over in twenty seven to twenty eighteenth, so

943
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: this is their seventh full year having everything go through them,

944
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: and they assigned specific names to home jerseys and road

945
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: jerseys and alter new jerseys and all that. And I

946
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: know we know these names, but.

947
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: You're talking about good to raise association. Yeah, and the icon.

948
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like you just said, state, the kids don't

949
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: know that what the home jersey is anymore because it's changed.

950
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: No, how would you be able to keep track.

951
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: Exactly six jerseys exactly, so if they know anything, they say, oh,

952
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: that's the blue jersey they have, or that's the the colors,

953
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: they probably don't go by the name.

954
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Definitely.

955
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 2: The Home one is the Association, that's their white jersey

956
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: of every team. The Road one is the icon, the

957
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: Statement is their alternate jersey, and the City audition the

958
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: city edition, which changes annually and has no real set

959
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: color color team is their fourth jerseys. And I liked

960
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: seeing this.

961
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes a classic jersey too, or is that the same

962
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: as a city Yeah? There is, you know you get

963
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: these like throwback ones really that are like almost outside anyway.

964
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: There is there is. You're right, no, And there's just

965
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: a there's a number allocation. You gotta wear it this

966
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: many times you gotta wear Yeah. So the home I

967
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: learned that.

968
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

969
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. The Homan Road you have to wear

970
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: at least ten times, The Association the icon, but I'm

971
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: calling them the home in the road. We got to

972
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 2: figure out better terms. Now, you's got to do a

973
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: better job of that. I just or maybe it's one two, three, four,

974
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: five jersey one is this one? Like, I don't know,

975
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: I just don't. I can't specify each one anyways. You

976
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: have to wear the homean Road ten times, the Statement,

977
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: six times, the City Edition and Classic three times. Right,

978
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: minimum A minimum? Yeah, minimum. So that's twenty six thirty

979
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: two of your eighty two games, so that you can

980
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: really change it up for your other fifty games. You

981
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: can wear whatever the heck you want.

982
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Here's the paragraph that jumped out to me and Mike

983
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: Workinos's article. Esthetically, the NBA looks different from year to

984
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: year as it introduces new uniforms with each season. It

985
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: is exhilarating or exhausting, depending on whom you ask. The

986
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: league is either running into grand ideas behind the creativity

987
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: of its teams, or it is running away from convention

988
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: and diluting its storied brands. That is perfectly put. Which

989
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: side do you fall on? Yeah, too many jerseys. You're

990
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: actually ruining some of these iconic brands. Yeah, by diluting

991
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: it all or the opposite. Some of these are great jerseys,

992
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: some fund designs. Obviously, Again, you're trying to hit a

993
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: younger fan base. You're trying to sell jerseys. I get

994
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: all that, and people love it. So I mean, a

995
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: you're somewhere in the middle again, one end of the spectrum.

996
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they gave Nike this ability to just designate

997
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: how many games are worn by each type of jersey,

998
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: I guess they were sort of allowing the franchise to say, Okay,

999
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: we want to have our home jerseys be primarily white.

1000
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: If they want, they can't, so they like a Boston Celtics.

1001
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 2: I tend to think, well, they're wearing the traditional stuff

1002
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: predominantly the traditional stuff. They have to have a third

1003
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: statement and these city edition alternate jerseys, but those only

1004
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 2: have to be worn a few times, so they're trying

1005
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: to have a balance. I think they allow the franchises

1006
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: to have a balance and just get on their own

1007
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: court and wear what you want, because yeah, you could

1008
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: be wearing your home team as much as you or

1009
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: home jersey as much as you want, and not mix

1010
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: it up as much just to take just to give

1011
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: them give everybody a little bit of taste. But if

1012
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: you don't want that, then you maybe you don't sell

1013
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: as many. So I guess they're just allowing It's complicated.

1014
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: This article is complicated.

1015
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's look it gets done to this. Should one

1016
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: team what's just whatever? Should the Celtics be allowed to

1017
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: say we only want two jerseys, man, we want a

1018
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: green jersey, we want a white jersey. That's it, because

1019
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: that's our brand, I know, And then another team can

1020
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: be like, no, we want we want new jersey every night.

1021
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: Man, we want we want eighty two okay.

1022
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, we want as many as we can think of. Like,

1023
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like that's the thing. Should the NBA,

1024
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: which they do, have a say because it is the

1025
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: entire brand?

1026
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1027
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: You want to sort of keep you know, the checks

1028
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: and balances on everything. Otherwise one team goes well overboard

1029
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: and maybe another team is too stodgy and doesn't lean

1030
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: into some creativity. I get why they want to, like,

1031
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, sort of keep everyone on the same sort

1032
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: of numbers. Here. Okay, we have these four jerseys, maybe

1033
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: you have a fifth. Yeah, but I mean, do you

1034
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: really need that?

1035
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, not necessarily. And I understand you

1036
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: want to keep the old farts happy. There's some old

1037
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: fans who just want to see a white jersey and

1038
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: a dark jersey, and then that's why they allow them

1039
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: to wear them for as as much as they want

1040
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: while making rules that they have to have these fourth jerseys,

1041
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: so they kind of allow them to say this jersey

1042
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: gets X amount of games, this jersey gets x amount.

1043
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: This is not just an NBA thing, right. The NHL

1044
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: used to, I believe, have the Maybe it was an

1045
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: unwritten rule or written rule. You know, the home team

1046
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: they were there, they're whites, right, yes, just like the

1047
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: NBA days. But they don't do that anymore. They've feered

1048
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: away from that. Again. I think it's just all to

1049
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: sell merch and that's the reason. But you can be

1050
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: upset with it, I guess. I mean, there was one

1051
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: thing that I did, Like, you turn on a game

1052
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: and you knew instantaneously that's the home Yeah. Now you

1053
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: know you're like, hold on the road teams wearing white? Okay,

1054
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: but so what you look at the scorebook? Takes you

1055
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: one more second figure out who's the home team?

1056
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I find the jerseys first. The NHL sometimes

1057
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: a little confusing a bid to understand what they are.

1058
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: I was just in Canada. Actually, I picked up some

1059
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: of my old jerseys that I had left there. I

1060
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: don't wear hockey jerseys anymore. But I got some, so

1061
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear them tomorrow. What both of them xls?

1062
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: They're huge? Oh for me, they're a little too big,

1063
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna have to wear shoulder pats. I think

1064
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: that's that's why they sell those jerseys, because you got

1065
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: to fill them in.

1066
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Hey. Speaking of hockey, just seeing the Oilers won their

1067
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: thirteenth straight game set the Canadian record for most wins.

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00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: In a row.

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00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Wow, isn't that weird? I'm like, how is that the record?

1070
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1071
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: You think somebody was better, but I guess you tie

1072
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: more often you tie?

1073
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: Ye, take on thirteen.

1074
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Straight, the Oilers shout out to our guy Stefan, the

1075
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: only Oilers fan.

1076
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, my man Lee p oh yeah.

1077
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yeah, anyway crazy You would have thought, like

1078
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: the Gretzky messy a Oilers did that. No, you would

1079
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: think Canadians just keep going with Patrick Wall in between

1080
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: the pipes.

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00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: So that's the Canadian record. The American I don't have

1082
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: that in front. Okay, that's fine.

1083
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: I guess they beat the sixty seven sixty eight Montreal

1084
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Canadians who won twelve in a row. So the Oilers

1085
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: won thirteenth straight they dropped your flames.

1086
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, baby, every one. I should have been worring

1087
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: my jersey today.

1088
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: You know, we need to get a hockey drop like

1089
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: a music bed like we do with a rounder sh JD.

1090
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: We can't get anything by you to a j We

1091
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: got breaking trades, we got a hockey tack Yeah, and

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00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: the young.

1093
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: Buys, Oh I need that draft?

1094
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did it go? If the young.

1095
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 4: Bus can't take a little bit of tackling.

1096
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the young buys can't take a little bit

1097
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: of heckening, they should stick to dillywinks and PlayStation.

1098
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: There you go.

1099
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: There's a second part to that too.

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00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: What does he say in.

1102
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: The second part of that feature that was filmed on

1103
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: that so good on that news channel.

1104
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does similar cadence and oh yeah.

1105
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: We definitely say that a lot if the young buys.

1106
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that part.

1107
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: But Titley winkson PlayStation is an underrated part of that too.

1108
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: All right? Final one from is this news here? New

1109
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 2: in the NBA this year, players must play at least

1110
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: sixty five games if they're gonna win an award. The

1111
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: NBA wants less sitting of games, and there are TV

1112
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: deals to sell, So just play those games, fellows. All right,

1113
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: the rating MVP Joe Embid is on pace to play

1114
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: sixty two games, so it's unlikely. Yeah, it's possible that

1115
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: he could win the award, but it is unlikely. This

1116
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: from Sixers Wire, seventy six Ers head coach Nick Nurse says,

1117
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: quote sixty five game rule isn't fair. Is this news?

1118
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: This is fake news. I don't think this is what

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00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: he said.

1120
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Well he said it.

1121
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, yes, this is the

1122
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: definition of fake news.

1123
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: I made this this post because or this topic here

1124
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: because he said it.

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00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, look I saw I went to hoops Hype and

1126
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: I saw a headline that said something similar. Yeah, Nick

1127
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: Nurse on sixty five games threshold for dwell EMBIID. I

1128
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair.

1129
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: He said that.

1130
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: I did. No, no, no, no, he did not a

1131
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: little deep dive. He was asked about hypothetically about Embiid

1132
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: not hitting maybe the sixty five game mark, and I

1133
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: thought he was saying it's not fair to being asked

1134
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: about it in advance because it hasn't happened yet. You're right,

1135
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: so he said, quote Nick Nurse, he wants okay, he

1136
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: wants to see how things play out. He said, quote again,

1137
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't think fair. It's the first year of us

1138
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: doing this. I think we just got to kind of

1139
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: have to before we speculate on what it looks like.

1140
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: We got to get there. We got to see where

1141
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: we're at, what happens, and what decisions are made, see

1142
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: if he's played, you know, So I think I took

1143
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: this as he was actually saying, it's not fair to

1144
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: look into the future. We don't know the future. Joelle

1145
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: Embiid could play enough games. He's missed ten. He can't

1146
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: miss more than seven. There's forty games left. So I

1147
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: think this is fake news.

1148
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: Task they're putting attack under nurse's ass and asking the nick.

1149
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: Nurse didn't say sixty five game rule and fair, He

1150
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: didn't say that.

1151
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: Will you missed the first quote. He missed the first

1152
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: part of that same quote, just the first part of

1153
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: that same quote, because he was asked about it. Hey, Embiid,

1154
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: Embiid's not gonna play sixty five games? What happens? What

1155
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? Are you gonna play?

1156
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: Say five games?

1157
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: He did say. The only time I ever give it

1158
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: any thought is when you ask me about it, so

1159
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: he was angry. Then he said again, I don't think fair. Again,

1160
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: I don't think fair.

1161
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't think fair. Is the fair part to the

1162
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: threshold the NBA has put on it, or is the

1163
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: not fair or whatever fair to being asked about it

1164
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: because it hasn't happened yet, he might get there, guys, yeah, maybe,

1165
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: which is actually my takeaway from this. It's like we

1166
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: aren't making a big deal out of something that we

1167
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: don't even know to be true yet, right, I mean, look,

1168
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm just as guilty we've brought it up. Like I

1169
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: actually think, oh my god, the NBA script writers will

1170
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: have Joel Embiid play sixty four games and then all

1171
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: hell is going to break loose when he's averaging thirty

1172
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: six points per game and whenever double digit rebounds and

1173
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: five assists and his team's undefeated or you know, has

1174
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: an incredible record when he plays, but he didn't hit

1175
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: the season five Like that's I can almost see it happening.

1176
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 4: Now.

1177
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: Sure it hasn't happened. And when the NBA signs its

1178
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 2: TV deal that's upcoming very very very soon, the negotiations

1179
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: begin very soon, they can say, all right, let's get

1180
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: rid of that rule that we had last time.

1181
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, that we just put in place to try

1182
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: and get guys to.

1183
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: Play, try and get guys to play the national TV

1184
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: games especially, but more in general, which they have it.

1185
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid did miss ten games in the first half

1186
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: of the season, so he is on pace to miss it.

1187
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: You have you have to miss eighteen to not win

1188
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: this award because of this new rule, they.

1189
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Not miss more than seven. You can miss seven and still.

1190
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: Be the rest of the way here, yes, but max

1191
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: seventeen for the season, so ten plus seven you can't

1192
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: miss eight. But yeah, it's all how you interpret mister

1193
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Nurse's comments. But just let the basically what this comes

1194
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: down to is let the voters vote. And that's what

1195
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: it comes down to.

1196
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: The boy vote.

1197
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: Let the boy vote. If a guy plays sixty one games,

1198
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: is he MVP or not? If he plays sixty two games,

1199
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: or sixty three games or sixty four games, does that

1200
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: eliminate them from the MVP. I understand the whole load

1201
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: management angle of the NBA trying to get away from

1202
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: all of that because it has been too much of

1203
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: a story the last few years. It has been. But

1204
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 2: Kawhi has said this year, no more managing the load.

1205
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: It's all load Leonard from here on in, and it's changed.

1206
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: He plays, But Embiid, I don't think he's going to

1207
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: get to sixty five because we've seen him in the postseason.

1208
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: He wears down a little bit throughout these all these months.

1209
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: There's no doubt it wears on him. He's missed postseason

1210
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 2: games because of injury, not because he's sitting in five

1211
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: of his six postseasons. So he's got to come in

1212
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 2: as fresh as possible.

1213
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay, But then that's their that's an Embiid decision. That's

1214
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: a sixers decision to literally with the rules in place.

1215
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: It's not like we didn't know the rules heading into

1216
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: the season. The threshold. If you want to win MVP,

1217
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: you got to play sixty five. I'm sorry, that's what

1218
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: we decided on. That's what the Yeah, the players Association

1219
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: has also decided on. Okay, So if you don't really

1220
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: want to because like I'm talking about want to, as in,

1221
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: there's a game or two at the end of the

1222
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: season and they make a decision, you know what, I'd

1223
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: rather you sit because you haven't done shit in the playoffs. Man,

1224
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: We got to actually win some playoffs series here. Let's

1225
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: not worry about a second MVP. But they'll they'll come

1226
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: to that bridge and we'll find out what they do.

1227
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also I think Nick Nurse is probably listening

1228
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: to the doctors. Not the Nick Nurses and doctors, but

1229
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 2: some of them, some of the they asked to hear

1230
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 2: what they have to say about Joel EMBII because Greg

1231
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: Popovich is listening to it for Victor Wean Binyama, and

1232
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: it is a whole reversal of what Nick. I'm sorry

1233
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: Adam Silver said about managing the load. He said, the

1234
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: reports are that it helps players, and it does, but

1235
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: this year, all of a sudden, Adam Silver has said,

1236
00:56:53,960 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: check these reports. It doesn't help them. So yes, it's

1237
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: all about reports. And speaking of Canada, since we talked

1238
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: hockey and all that, this is extremely important. I just

1239
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: got a text that asked, is fried mushroom poutine a thing?

1240
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: Because he is asking you that fried mushrooms in a

1241
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: pusin They put everything in a poutine in Canada.

1242
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, fried mushroom.

1243
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: Of course, it's just grill it, baby, you don't frying anyway,

1244
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: whatever pushroom mushrooms are good. I'm not gonna reveal. I'm

1245
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: not gonna reveal.

1246
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna Is it a Canadian?

1247
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: No, it sounds like an American to me, doesn't it? Ship? Really?

1248
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: Does?

1249
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: It sounds like Brian Leech to me? Oh, I was

1250
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna say, final thought, that's nothing to do with anything.

1251
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: But when you brought up nurse, he made it a

1252
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: little nurse.

1253
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: Doctor Joe, it wasn't great. Great job.

1254
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Made me think, though, do you think Doc Rivers is

1255
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: on a plane right? Okay, hypothetical and someone has starts

1256
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: to have like heart palpitations and doing doing well, maybe

1257
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: keels over and somebody else is there a doctor on

1258
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the plane or maybe they have to yell is there

1259
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: a doc on the plane? Keep it informal? Does he

1260
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: have to does he have to say yes, I am?

1261
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: But I mean same goes for doctor Julius erving I

1262
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: guess too, doctor yeah, do you have to say yes?

1263
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: But I'm not that type of doctor? No?

1264
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: Okay, well do you think he he started cheepishly looks

1265
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: around like doctor j like especially like, I mean they

1266
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: know I'm a doctor, doctor yea, but not that kind

1267
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: of doctor.

1268
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1269
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: I think Doc Rivers probably no CPR.

1270
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's played in names doc names Doc.

1271
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 4: I don't know his dad was a cop, you know,

1272
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: safety concent.

1273
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: I don't know his dad was a copy cop rivers.

1274
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 4: There's cop rivers. Well, I could be wrong about that profession.

1275
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's teacher rivers.

1276
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1277
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Is Glen on the airplane? Is there a Glenn? Is

1278
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: there a baby here? A big baby?

1279
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Very little cause for a baby on an airplane,

1280
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: they give it to announce.

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Speaker 2: Right, unless you're looking for your own.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it'd be more specific. He's big. He's a

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Speaker 4: big baby. Have you seen him?

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Speaker 1: Big baby Davis all growing up flying the airplane, landing

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Speaker 1: us on the Hudson River.

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Speaker 4: Could Big Baby Davis land a plane? Probably ship, bounce

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Speaker 4: it all around? He took instruction extremely well when we

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Speaker 4: worked with him that one day.

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Speaker 1: Oh, because this goes back to the when you pull men.

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Speaker 1: Could they in an emergency fly a plane as long

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Speaker 1: as they were talking to air traffic control? Yeah, Big

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Speaker 1: baby Davi good? Yeah, you're right. He took your direction.

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Speaker 2: Phenomenally extremely was so good.

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Speaker 1: Dancing the music that wasn't playing.

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Speaker 2: No, he danced a quiet down to silence that we

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Speaker 2: were we were booging. Uh, I'm glad you you pulled

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Speaker 2: out the big Baby Davis because I when I mentioned

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Speaker 2: Big Baby Davis, it did sound smart, like let's talk

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Speaker 2: about babies on an airplane. But I had I had

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Speaker 2: a brain fart. I thought for a second he was

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Speaker 2: Duck's son. He was Austin Rivers. That's why I because

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Speaker 2: he said his dad was like why I went.

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01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 4: To I feel like I read it one sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Wow, is anybody fact checking us here in the stream?

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Speaker 3: Team?

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Speaker 2: Actually the River's father.

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Speaker 1: Let me look it up.

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01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Hawks just did a social thing, a social

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: video where they asked each of their players, would you

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Speaker 2: who would you trust amongst your teammates to fly the

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Speaker 2: plane ship? Nobody knew though this called it.

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Speaker 4: I knew it. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I read it son of a police officer, Doc Rivers,

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01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and then this is that's what the headline is. And yes,

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Speaker 1: his father was a big inspiration there. What call Grady Rivers?

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Speaker 1: What's his name? Okay, let's get to tweet the night.

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Speaker 2: Holy crap, tweet out the knight. Wow. This tweet of

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: the night involves another controversy that happened yesterday in the association.

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: Uh This is from our man, Jay King at the Athletic.

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Speaker 2: He tweeted because he was watching the MAVs Brown MAVs

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: Celtics game. That quote. Tim Hardaway Junior was furious at

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: the Mavericks jumbo tron operators for showing a replay of

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: the Jalen Brown crossover on Luka Doncic. Jalen Brown a

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: beautiful crossover and Luca.

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Speaker 1: Tripped he fell. Yeah, come on, there's no trip.

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01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: No did he trip over himself? Oh?

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: Sure, but that count. He didn't trip on Jalen Brown's foot.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think he did.

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01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: So the tweet is basically about Tim Hardaway, his Luca's teammate,

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: basically saying, what the hell are you putting that up

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: for some anger?

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: Do you show an embarrassing clip, but you don't.

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: Show embarrassing stuff about our team? Mm? Which, but that

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01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: that that is in this social media era, that is

1335
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: literally as as bad as it gets in terms of

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: videos that gets put on social media that they showed it,

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: et cetera. So you just don't do it in our building.

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Speaker 2: That's what I guess.

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Speaker 1: What are you saying? I can't disagree with it.

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01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: I can't disagree either.

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: And you don't see it often. Like if if we

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01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: go down to the fortress and you know, Capella gets

1343
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: dunked on by Zion Williamson, they're not they're not racking

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01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: it up. You're generally showing it again. I mean, you

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: don't do that, like you're sort of clowning your own team.

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: You don't do that.

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01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying, like, was there any reason they put it

1348
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: up there again? Because they thought, which has to happen

1349
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: with a lot of these highlights, when a guy falls,

1350
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: it's like, you'll watch it again and you go, ah,

1351
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: Jayleen Brown stepped on his foot, that's why he went over.

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: Yes, they could have.

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01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: Could they have thought that happened? And like and then

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01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: they watched it and they played, oh, he actually just

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: tripped on his own feet, like he got he got shook.

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01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: You could definitely think that they aired it because they

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01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: had a reason behind Yeah, yeah, yeah, to show everybody

1358
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: in the building there was a reason he fell down,

1359
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: but Jayleen Brown and he just dropped. Uh, Luca with

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01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful cross.

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01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: Luca had a funny comment after the game too, you

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: like like he was like, hell of a play. I

1363
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: was hoping he missed the jump shot because he's down

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01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: on the ground. Nothing I can do from down here.

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: But if he misses the jump shot, yeah, sure, so

1366
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: many clips it. It goes around Twitter, but no one cares.

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: Every comment's like, finished, the play doesn't count. Didn't hit

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01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: the jumper, but you scar it counts, you know. Yeah,

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: it's a killer highlight.

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01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: Whoever showed that on the Jumpbotron, I guess is a

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: Celtics fan, because you know, because you don't do that

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: in your own building. You just you don't, and they

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01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 2: and the whole Hey, he fell on Jalen Brown's feet.

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: You get tripped on Jaalen Browns feet. There ain't much

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01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: to that because he didn't.

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01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: No, he didn't.

1377
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: So it's a weird thing to actually bring up and

1378
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: show it again. Coming from Toronto where we were moving

1379
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: down here to Atlanta. I go to basketball games and

1380
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: I want to see the opposing teams replaces stuff. They

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: don't show them. In general, they do not show them.

1382
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: If the Raptors are here and Kyle Lowry, let's say

1383
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: you'll drop somebody, they'll never show that replay.

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: And you want to see it. Sometimes you're like, oh,

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01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: I want to see that. As an opposing fan, get

1386
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: your phone out and jump on Twitter.

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01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: As a opposing fan. You want to see that, but

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: it makes sense that the home team wouldn't want to

1389
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: show you that, and it doesn't happen in Atlanta. They

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: will not show you that stuff, So I can understand it.

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01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: I think most arenas have a you know, it's a

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty hard rule. I think that you're not showing highlights

1393
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: where the guys gets dunked on dropped from the other team.

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01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 2: Which kind of sucks because you want to watch the game.

1395
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: You'd like to see a cool replay.

1396
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: Some players can take it, some can't. Luca, I don't

1397
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: think I had really any real issue with it. Tim

1398
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: Hardaway's you know, going to bat for his guy. But

1399
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: some other players, I'm sure they like thin skin guys

1400
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: like they would be offended. They'd ask for a trade.

1401
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: Get me out of here.

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: Let's ask thin skin Weade, not skin Wade, who is

1403
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: a broadcaster on the Mavericks broadcast. I didn't hear him

1404
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: talk about it. Let's hear Jeff Jeff skin Weaight, his

1405
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: name is not Fincy. I'm not calling him thin skin,

1406
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: but his name is Jeff skin Wait.

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01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: You know it's ironic about Tim Hardaway going to bat

1408
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: for his guy. Is that that tweet that you showed

1409
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: had two million views? So it's you know, I mean

1410
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: Jay tweeted it, Jay King of the Athletic. But I

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: assume more people found out about the play and went

1412
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: and seeked out the play because of what he said.

1413
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: He's got to be people who saw the tweet.

1414
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: Go, well, what happened?

1415
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: No, let me see, Oh got him beat?

1416
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: That's the internet man, that's the internet man.

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: That's twenty twenty four for you.

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct.

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01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: Let's call it there. What a show? Baby had a

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: little bit of everything there. Crazy performances last night, a

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01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: trade happening during the show, some fun headlines, fun discussion,

1422
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: great tweet of the night, hopefully a classic utell Us

1423
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: five star rating and review. Hit the like button, maybe subscribe.

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: Five games on tonight, some decent ones, Nuggets, Pacers, Nix Nets, Jazz, Pels, Blazers,

1425
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: thunder Lakers, Clippers. Dare I say, is it rivalry week

1426
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: on the NBA?

1427
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 4: It is?

1428
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: We've got a few rivalries there, tasks Nick Netts, Lakers, Clippers.

1429
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: At least.

1430
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll be back tomorrow to break it all down.

1431
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: TK will be here with us in the Classic Factory

1432
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: as long as he can get back on his flight.

1433
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: Might be having some snow issues up there in Illinois,

1434
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: but we'll see. Thanks for joining us until then, Clipper bros.

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time turn up.

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01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember I'm doing my Terry

1438
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: Rozier info up info looking right now. I sometimes forget this,

1439
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 2: but this man was a Boston Celtic for four years.

1440
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: He's an established player in this league nine seasons, and

1441
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 2: he loves a spaghetti sandwich that we ate with him once.

1442
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't now, but we did.

1443
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't think he eats him anymore? Spaghetti with it.

1444
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: Probably has a personal chef. You imagine that's what he's

1445
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: asking a personal chef to make. Would you be offended

1446
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: if you were a personal chef.

1447
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1448
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: I can cook you anything, and you want white bread,

1449
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: spaghetti and ranch and sugar.

1450
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really?

1451
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: You know what you pay me to do this? Do

1452
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: it yourself. Embrace the day, people,