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Speaker 1: Welcome to the official Colts podcast. We're coming at you

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Speaker 1: after a twenty seven, twenty four win. Welcoming in everyone

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Speaker 1: from the Colts Audio Network and our YouTube viewers. The

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Speaker 1: busiest lady in the National Football League, Lere Overton is here.

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankowitz is here, and guys, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to go over. We're gonna go over ar and some

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Speaker 1: Flacco news, and we've got what the latest is on

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Speaker 1: the defense. Ben Arthur from Fox Sports is coming up.

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Speaker 1: He covers the AFC South for Fox Sports. JJ had

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Speaker 1: a chance to catch down with him. Hey, zero and

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Speaker 1: two start now, it's two and two. I want to

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Speaker 1: start here, guys. I thought the Chicago crowd at Lucas

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Speaker 1: Oil Stadium was head and shoulders above the Steelers crowd.

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Speaker 1: Am I in agreement with this? It was loud, don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, But I thought Chicago was here and

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Speaker 1: Steelers were got a pretty.

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Speaker 2: Good job shutting them up early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can I tend to give a little bit of an

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Speaker 3: edge because the Steelers just have the terrible towels which

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Speaker 3: are so visible. So I feel like that that amplifies

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Speaker 3: their presence, whether they aren't as strong in numbers or

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Speaker 3: in noise. I just feel like that always just that

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Speaker 3: site is always something to behold there. And then you

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Speaker 3: got Ben Roethlisberger in the house as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean all of it.

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Speaker 3: But hey, who knows better how to beat the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Steelers than Joe Flacco?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: I thought that, Like, come on, all.

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Speaker 3: Those battles over the years between the Ravens and the Steelers, Yeah, perfectly.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers can't escape the guy, Yeah, right, in the

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Speaker 2: division last year, leading the Browns of the playoffs, and

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Speaker 2: now it's like, oh, we finally, okay, we got the Colts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's on the bench, we got Richardson, and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, here he comes, dropping dimes on third down

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Speaker 2: and moving the ball and winning a game.

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Speaker 4: Can I give you guys a couple of stats here?

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Speaker 3: So Joe Flacco is now throwing a touchdown pass for

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Speaker 3: five teams in his career Baltimore, Denver, the Jets, Browns,

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Speaker 3: and Colts. Only Case Keenum and Tyrod Taylor have thrown

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Speaker 3: a touchdown pass for more teams among active corps. So

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Speaker 3: they're kind of crazy. And then this was wild as well.

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Speaker 3: I dropped this one on Shane. He had not heard

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Speaker 3: it yet. And this is pretty obscure, but pretty funny

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Speaker 3: when you just talk about the history, especially all of

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Speaker 3: these battles between the Steelers and Colts throughout the years.

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis has now won two straight games, including playoffs against

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh for the first time since nineteen sixty eight and

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, think about that. I mean, we can pile on that.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible too. In a row like that, and both

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Speaker 1: wins at Lucas Oil Stadium or on home turf. I

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Speaker 1: love more stats like that. The Steelers have had three

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Speaker 1: stinking head coaches since nineteen sixty right, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about statistics, three head coaches since I

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Speaker 1: as old as I am there, it's incredible. And one

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Speaker 1: other fun black O stack that I heard that I know,

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Speaker 1: you guys both know. But just by chance, his family

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Speaker 1: comes in for this game from out of town.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, they're here, they live here.

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Speaker 1: But they hadn't been to a game.

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Speaker 4: He hadn't come to a game.

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Speaker 3: Correct, this is the first game they were here for.

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Speaker 3: But the family is here and in town.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: So this just happened to be the first one that

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Speaker 1: Right, well, we're gonna find out what the latest is

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback situation. I want to start there with you,

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Speaker 1: jj Ar. How does a pistol I mean, how does

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Speaker 1: he goes down, goes out, comes back in, and he's

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Speaker 1: thoughts on when that happened, that transition and what Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco means to this offense, we saw it on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about Ar's hip injury. So as

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Speaker 2: of right now, we don't know what his status is

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Speaker 2: going to be for Week five against Jacksonville. That we're

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Speaker 2: This is something that hopefully he can come back from

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Speaker 2: The other guy to talk about real quick is Jonathan

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Speaker 2: like crazy, that was for everything that Anthony has struggled

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of throw that like offensive coordinators dream

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Speaker 2: the way that he impacted the run game, the run

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Speaker 2: this was a game, like Moiley Cox told me after

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Speaker 3: I could have totally seen that and think about the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Colt scored fourteen points in the first half.

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Speaker 3: That was more than the Steelers had given up in

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Speaker 3: that I have on game day, not from a lot

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Speaker 3: of extensive conversations. But Anthony went and got checked out

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Speaker 3: of course, and when he came out of the locker

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Speaker 3: The entire medical team was huddled up. They were certainly

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Speaker 3: evaluating whether or not it was worth it. To try

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Speaker 3: Anthony had needed to play, He's certainly, from what I

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Speaker 4: Because the guy.

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Speaker 3: Never took off his pads, his cleats, everything like he

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Speaker 4: After he was ruled out.

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Speaker 3: So it looked like that he was kind of trying

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Speaker 3: let's let's play cautious here, let's see what you know.

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Speaker 4: We know, we've got Joe for this exact situation.

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Speaker 3: You felt like that you could get it done, and

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Speaker 3: he certainly did against Pittsburgh. So from everything that I

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Speaker 4: He was never limited. He didn't have you know, that hip.

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Speaker 4: They're doing that.

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Speaker 3: The checklist in terms of things trending in the right

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Speaker 4: Different of course when.

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Speaker 3: You get that fote that feeling on Monday, Tuesday postgame,

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Speaker 3: so Wednesday will be very indicative in terms of where

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Speaker 4: But he's so tough.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is certainly a situation in which

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Speaker 3: he's he's going to be good moving forward for the

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Speaker 1: We've seen the value of his legs. Is this something

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Speaker 1: that is monitored that says, hey, he's eighty percent. We

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Speaker 1: would play him in a playoff situation, But because it's

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Speaker 1: mid season type of a game, does they sit for

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Speaker 1: another week and give the offense to Flato again, That's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna find out, I imagine.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we'll find out as week goes on.

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Speaker 2: The thing that Anthony told us after the game is

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Speaker 2: like I have no doubt he could. He could still

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is the way that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: going to get into all of you shiating stuff, right,

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Speaker 3: that's the conversation for other people.

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Speaker 2: It just just real quick. The Steelers always toe that line.

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Speaker 2: But look, this is not a I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: Tomlin always always has those guys. You go right up

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Speaker 2: know what, we are never going to be the We're

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Speaker 2: never gonna come into the game feeling like we're the

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Speaker 2: less physical team. The Colts match that physicality in this

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Speaker 2: game thanks to like EJ. Speed and across, which we'll

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Speaker 2: get into later. Yeah, but I respect the heck out

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Speaker 2: sometimes it gets a little.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it's not the gray area. I think that's someone

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Speaker 4: to risk my quarterback round.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right. How about this one, guys, Hats off

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Speaker 1: to Braden Smith because TJ. Watt, very very quiet let

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Speaker 1: himself out of the game late if you saw him

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Speaker 1: running off the field. So I'm saying a silence on TJ. Wat,

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Speaker 1: which everybody was focused.

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Speaker 4: On going into z Scorreman have an erin when we

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Speaker 4: were talking in your office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, we were talking throw the rundown yesterday

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Speaker 2: and I was like, check this out. I just went

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Speaker 2: through all twenty nine of TJ. Watt's pass rushing snaps

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Speaker 2: on Pro Football Focus and I watched them all back.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many times of twenty nine snaps

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Speaker 2: a tight end got their hands on TJ. Watt twenty

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Speaker 2: eight fourteen, Okay, which is still it's not like that crazy,

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Speaker 2: but it's that's a lot chip and that means that's

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Speaker 2: fourteen times that the Colts tight ends are like, you

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Speaker 2: can't get out in a real route once you chip.

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Speaker 2: But that did then lead to Drew Ogletree's touchdown because

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Speaker 2: a coaching point the Colts had during the week was, hey,

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Speaker 2: sometimes when you chip Watt, you're gonna just they're gonna

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Speaker 2: forget to cover you. That's exactly what happened on that

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Speaker 2: They're out of your game plan. Now you can't run

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Speaker 1: If Anthony's healthy and ready to go, Anthony plays. That's

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Speaker 4: Oh and really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Hey don't forget at JJ Stankobitz at Larra Olverton on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: at Colts dot com. Can we flip the switch? Do

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Speaker 1: Over all the words.

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Speaker 3: But it is guys reacting to EJ Speed's high school highlights.

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Speaker 3: Because if you don't if you didn't know each a

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Speaker 3: played like quarterback, he played receiver. I think he like punched,

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Speaker 3: he punned in high school.

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Speaker 4: Uh, he ended up.

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Speaker 3: He didn't convert to linebacker until his sophomore year at

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Speaker 3: Tarleton State.

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Speaker 4: But these highlights. He was such a great sport about it.

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Speaker 3: But the reaction from the guys in the locker room

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Speaker 3: watching the high school.

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Speaker 2: Film is highlights in quotations, there's a lot of picks,

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Speaker 2: a lot. It was like, hey, we got your high

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Speaker 2: school highlights handed in the iPad and it's just him

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Speaker 2: throwing picks and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But it's the guy you could do that with.

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Speaker 2: Like yes, he also just real quick on that the

453
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Speaker 2: amount of work it took for our social team to

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Speaker 2: put that togetherus Zach, Zach shut up to Zach Wilson,

455
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Speaker 2: not the quarterback for he was. He was rolling through

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Speaker 2: like Max preps highlights for like guys who never played

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Speaker 2: in college and from like twenty twelve to find these

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Speaker 2: high lights playing EJ Speeds high school. Just an incredible

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Speaker 2: amount of work. That was awesome. That's great job.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And Colts dot Com social media, you

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Speaker 1: gotta check them out before we get on. Ben Arthur

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Speaker 1: from Fox Sports is coming up. JJ had a chance

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Speaker 1: to catch up with him and find out what the

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Speaker 1: national media thinks of the Colts and this AFC South. Wow,

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Speaker 1: we know DeForest Buckner for you know, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: that defensive line. Who needs to step up, guys, give

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Speaker 1: a little bit of love to these guys up front.

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Speaker 1: Iowa Dango for starting and what they were going with

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Speaker 1: with the running game and justin fields and what he

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Speaker 1: brings to that really well played throughout the whole thing

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Speaker 1: with no Quidty Pay and no DeForest on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again that's what I mean, not to

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Speaker 3: downplay it, but that's what you needed to get from

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Speaker 3: this group. You've invested in the defensive line, you have

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Speaker 3: made that through the draft, You've brought guys in a

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Speaker 3: free agency like ray Kwon Davis and yeah, that's to me,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what you needed.

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Speaker 4: Them to deliver.

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Speaker 3: They have been, you know, as advertised, played up to

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Speaker 3: certainly a level of expectation or beyond. It is a

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Speaker 3: tough task when you don't have DFO, when you don't

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Speaker 3: have Quidty Pay.

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Speaker 4: In the lineup.

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Speaker 3: But those guys are there for a reason, right And

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Speaker 3: it was to me a really obviously it was the

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Speaker 3: most complete game, most complimentary game that you have seen

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Speaker 3: from the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Offensively, and defensively, And.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the guys up front did it a phenomenal,

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Speaker 3: phenomenal job, and a lot of that credit Grover Stewart.

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Speaker 4: Just up there. He is the.

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Speaker 3: Center of that entire operation, and he certainly does not

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Speaker 3: get enough love or enough attention for the assignments that

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Speaker 3: he takes and the opportunities that he creates for the

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Speaker 3: guys that are surrounding him.

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Speaker 2: But also shout out Rik one David another guy who liked,

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Speaker 2: oh why what do the Colts doing signing the defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle and making him their priority priority and outside free agency? Well,

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Speaker 2: this is why, because he him getting in there with

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Speaker 2: Grove has really shored up the run defense. I want

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Speaker 2: to talk just one quick thing in the defense because

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Speaker 2: I've seen this a little bit, that the cult are

503
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Speaker 2: a bunch of bad offenses right now. Like the first

504
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Speaker 2: two weeks, you got Green Bay and Houston good offenses.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, Jordan Love didn't play, but whatever,

506
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Speaker 2: those are good offenses now. So I'm gonna go through

507
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Speaker 2: EPA per play expected points added, the Steelers are twentieth,

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars are twenty fourth, the Bears are twenty sixth,

509
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Speaker 2: the Titans are thirtieth and the Dolphins are thirty second.

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Speaker 2: Those are the teams the Colts play from week's three

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Speaker 2: at point. Not a lot of environmental protection agency right

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Speaker 2: right the point there though, is just considered that a

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Speaker 2: measure of what these are offenses that are below average

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Speaker 2: that the Colts are playing, but their defense was supposedly

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Speaker 2: below average. And with all these guys being out of

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Speaker 2: Brent's Buckner, you don't have Quitty, you don't have Kenny

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Speaker 2: in this game to still be able to win these

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Speaker 2: football games, I don't care how it looks. Once you

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Speaker 2: get Buckner back, hopefully for weeks seven against Miami or

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Speaker 2: Week eight against Houston, that's when I think this defense

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Speaker 2: can really start to build. But you got to make

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Speaker 2: it there, and you got to shut down these offenses

523
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Speaker 2: that are not very good and win these football games.

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Speaker 2: And that's what the the Colts have done here.

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Speaker 3: Can I also just say something about some of those

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Speaker 3: percentages and rankings and all of that. You were three games,

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Speaker 3: four games in at that point.

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Speaker 4: It's such a.

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Speaker 3: Small sample size to have that type of a measurable

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Speaker 3: measurable especially because we know the first quarter of the

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Speaker 3: season teams are figuring it out. Right, you're establishing who

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Speaker 3: you are, You're developing the identity of this. So I

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Speaker 3: just think that it obviously there you can kind of

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Speaker 3: find a stat to work for anything. But I think

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Speaker 3: that it is worth just taking with a grain of

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Speaker 3: salt a little bit stats like that this early on,

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Speaker 3: especially when you have just those first three to four

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Speaker 3: games that you're using as your evaluation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think the point there

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Speaker 2: is that the offenses that the Colts played when they

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Speaker 2: played them were not very good. Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think the Bears offense is going to be much better.

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Speaker 2: If the Colts caught the Bears in Week sixteen, that's

544
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Speaker 2: a different football game, you know, But for right now,

545
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Speaker 2: those these offenses are struggling. When Miami comes to town

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Speaker 2: and two is still is not going to be playing

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Speaker 2: in that game in a couple of weeks, that's an

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Speaker 2: offense that is really struggling. The Titans, you know, they

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Speaker 2: put up thirty one yesterday, but they've really struggled this year.

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Speaker 2: And Will Levis what's what his status is going to be?

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Speaker 2: And then the Jaguars are zero to four, and I

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Speaker 2: know they've lost three of those four games by one score,

553
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Speaker 2: but they're struggling, So you know, whatever, whatever the defense

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Speaker 2: looks like to me is just like once Buckner gets back,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm really going to start evaluating. Is this

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Speaker 2: a defense that you can really contend in the AFC

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Speaker 2: South with? Hey, but you can't get to the point

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Speaker 2: where like you're you're already buried because of your defense

559
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Speaker 2: and when you're playing some of these offenses that maybe

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Speaker 2: you're not.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is this. This team started zero to two,

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Speaker 1: this team's now two and two, and we're looking at

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Speaker 1: the next three weeks and we're going winnable, winnable, winnable, winnable, winnable, winnable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I love about this group right now,

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Speaker 1: five starters down from training, gamp stuff like that. It's

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Speaker 1: incredible what they're doing. And they can step on the

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Speaker 1: next of these next three opponents and get into a

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Speaker 1: position that Stiking's like, oh, I'm comfortable here at five

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Speaker 1: and two. I'm not predicting anything, but look, we've got

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Speaker 1: the ability to do that, whether ar is healthy or

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Speaker 1: whether he's not. With Joe Flacco running this offense.

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Speaker 4: I made this point to my husband on Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: and he kind of laughed at me.

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Speaker 1: What up, Tucker?

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Speaker 3: I said, Essentially, you start the second quarter of the

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Speaker 3: season with a clean slate, because you're even at two

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Speaker 3: and two. You consider if you break it up like

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Speaker 3: a lot of coaches do into four quarters of the season,

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Speaker 3: you do, you kind of go in fresh second quarter

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Speaker 3: of the season. Even so it's basically you're oh and

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Speaker 3: O starting off in week five. And he was like,

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Speaker 3: I have never heard something.

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Speaker 4: That's a totally manipulated sports talk type of take.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, I truly think that it is right,

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Speaker 3: Like no, if you want to look at it that way.

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Speaker 3: And this is a wild stretch of games coming up,

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Speaker 3: four of five on the road for the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 3: You go to Jacksonville, you go to Tennessee, you're home

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Speaker 3: against Miami.

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Speaker 4: You'll go to Houston, and then you go to Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota might just be the best darn team in football.

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Speaker 3: But there is so much to play out between now

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Speaker 3: and right.

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Speaker 2: So real quick, I know we got to get to

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Speaker 2: Ben Arthur. But just because thinking about the quarters, like

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Speaker 2: I talked to them Oil like Cox about it, and

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Speaker 2: he's like, you know, if you do break it up, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you want to be two and two. You obviously want

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Speaker 2: to be four and oh, but like base one, you

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Speaker 2: want to be two and two through the first four games.

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Speaker 2: That's where you can build for me. The next quarter

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Speaker 2: of the season at Jacksonville, at Tennessee home, Miami at Houston.

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Speaker 2: You're done with your divisional road games by week eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how do you come out of this stretch? Then the

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Speaker 2: next quarter is at Minnesota, Buffalo at New York Jets Detroit.

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Speaker 2: That is your like four, probably your four hardest games

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Speaker 2: of the season in that stretch right there, in probably

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Speaker 2: five if you include at Houston. But then you finish

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Speaker 2: and you know, who knows how these teams are going

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Speaker 2: to look come December. But you finish with at New

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Speaker 2: England at Denver home Tennessee at New York home Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the last quarter.

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Speaker 4: The first week at December, we get.

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Speaker 2: The bye week between New England and Denver. You got

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Speaker 2: some good defenses in there, you know, in New England

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Speaker 2: in Denver. But that's a stretch of games right there.

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Speaker 2: We're right now with a lot that can change. Those

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Speaker 2: five games look all very much winnable. This team could

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Speaker 2: really if they if they are not buried by that

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Speaker 2: tough stretch, that five game stretch. This team could really

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Speaker 2: start making some moves in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: We do it a one week at a time and

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Speaker 1: JJ stanko it's had a chance.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do it one week at a time.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, but we do those. We stack them,

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Speaker 1: we stack them, we stack guys the team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like looking at it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, playoffs are going to be great for this team.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think out of it. So anyway, Ben

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Speaker 1: Arthur from Home from Fox Sports, who covers the AFC South,

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Speaker 1: had a chance to catch up with JJ. Here's Ben

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Speaker 1: and JJ talking about the state of the Colts right

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Speaker 1: now at two and two.

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Speaker 2: It is my pleasure to welcome back to the Official

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Speaker 2: Colts podcast from Fox Sports and the Fox Sports App.

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Speaker 2: NFL reporter Ben Arthur. Ben, you got a lot of

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Speaker 2: experience covering the AFC South. You cover the league at

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Speaker 2: large now, but I wanted to bring you back on

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Speaker 2: to talk about the state of the AFC South. Given

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Speaker 2: the Colts next three or next four games, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: are against AFC South opposition. All of them are on

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Speaker 2: the road, and it concludes with a week eighth showdown

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Speaker 2: against the Houston Texans before we get into the AFC

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Speaker 2: South though, Ben, I just I kind of want your

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Speaker 2: overarching thoughts on the Colts. Where you think this team

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Speaker 2: stands through four weeks at two and two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think number one, the injury bug is certainly

648
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Speaker 5: something to monitor that the attrition is it's kind of

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Speaker 5: hard to ignore it right at this point, particularly on

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Speaker 5: the defensive line. Saw that Taekwon Lewis went on ir

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Speaker 5: you already have DeForest Buckner and Samson Ebukom there, Quitty

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Speaker 5: pay has an injury that he's dealing with, and then

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Speaker 5: we're kind of wait and see with in terms of

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Speaker 5: how much time if any that Jonathan Taylor misses that

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Speaker 5: you know, if Anthony Richardson will miss any time. But

656
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: I think coming out of this Steelers game, there's kind

657
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 5: of some reason for optimism, right, I think from an

658
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: offensive standpoint, seeing Michael Pittman Junior and Josh Downs get

659
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: going for the first time is huge for this offense.

660
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 5: Is you know, coming into the year, right, they're the

661
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: two top two receivers, and we know the injury issue

662
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: that Josh Downs has had, and then Michael Pittman has

663
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 5: just kind of been hasn't maybe been able to capitalize

664
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: on those opportunities at least in the first few weeks.

665
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: And to see them get going even if you didn't

666
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 5: have Anthony Richardson out there as much as you like,

667
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 5: I think getting those two guys going is huge for

668
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: that offense. And then defensively, I mean it's going to

669
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 5: be interesting to see who steps up, right. I mean,

670
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 5: having this kind of attrition on the defense, particularly on

671
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: the defensive line. But we know Juju Brantz is on

672
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: IR They've had some other thing is going on too,

673
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: Like Who's who's going to step up? Right? Because I

674
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 5: think after those first two games right when just kind

675
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 5: of historically bad just in terms of run defense, and

676
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: then being able to improve these last two weeks and

677
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: now you have the injuries start to pile up a bit,

678
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, who's going to step up now? And

679
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: so I think that's gonna come down a lot on

680
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 5: the linebackers like Zayre and EJ and uh a lot too.

681
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it it's gonna be opportunity. Are a lot of

682
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: guys who are going to have to step up. So

683
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 5: so yeah, I think the injury bug, To answer your question,

684
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 5: the injury bug is the thing that kind of sticks

685
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: out to me the most about this team. But I

686
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 5: think the flashes you've seen, particularly on offense, I think

687
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 5: that's something to build on moving forward for the Colts.

688
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, I want to go in reverse

689
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: order in the AFC South standings because that also works

690
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: out then in the order of the Cults are going

691
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: to play these teams over the next month. So the

692
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Owen four Jackville Jaguars, I think I could probably start

693
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: with a pretty basic question, what the heck's going on there?

694
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: How are they owned for?

695
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's it's a lot going on. Yeah,

696
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: there's there's a lot going on in Jacksonville right now.

697
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 5: I think I think you have to kind of start

698
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: with coaching, right because I think the biggest problem with

699
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: this team is they don't know how to finish games.

700
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: And that's looked different in each week, right whether it's

701
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: kind of, you know, slowing down from a hot start

702
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 5: against Miami, losing to a Brown team they shouldn't have

703
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: lost to, or getting blown out on Monday Night football,

704
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: and then against the Texans where you really have a

705
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 5: chance even though you're down, particularly on defense down, So

706
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: many starters, but you're hanging in with a CJ. Stroud

707
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: led Texans team but not able to uh finish the deal.

708
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: So I think finishing is one of the biggest issues

709
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 5: for this team. And that's so surprising because this was

710
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: the same issue at the end of last year, right

711
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: and then actually a focus of this Jags team was

712
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 5: bringing in a lot of guys who've played in Super

713
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: Bowls or at least conference championship games to fill kind

714
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: of like maybe that leadership void kind of when things

715
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 5: get tough, when you need guys to step up, you

716
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: have that personnel in house to be able to prevent

717
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: the finishing issues that we saw at the end of

718
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: last season. And so for that to continue into this season,

719
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: I think that speaks to coaching. It starts with Doug Peterson.

720
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: This team is not playing with any confidence right now,

721
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: and if you don't have confidence, that's a very scary

722
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: place to be in the NFL. And I think with confidence,

723
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 5: you have to look at Trevor Lawrence's play too, right,

724
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 5: Like he's never lived up to like that generational talent

725
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 5: billing that he had coming out of Clemson a few

726
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 5: years ago. But the way he's playing he's playing as

727
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: bad as he's ever played, like compared to even some

728
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: of those games he had as a rookie really tough

729
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: sledding under Urban Meyer. But he looks just as bad

730
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: right now as he did at times during that really

731
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 5: rough rookie year. So I think it goes to confidence

732
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 5: and that that ultimately starts with coaching. I don't really

733
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: know how they fix it. I mean, it's a really

734
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: I think at this point the Jags just need to

735
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 5: see something go their way right, And to their credit,

736
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: they actually probably played the best for a full game

737
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: that they've played last week against Houston, even though again

738
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 5: they weren't able to finish and a lot of those

739
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: same issues showed up from start to finish. It was

740
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 5: probably the best that it has looked to this point.

741
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: And so I think if you have any if you

742
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: can find any reason for optimism, and you know this well,

743
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 5: being on the Colts side, the Colts have it won

744
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen, so maybe maybe there's something there.

745
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's there's a lot of issues. I mean,

746
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 5: starts with coaching, as I said, But then I think

747
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 5: the confidence thing, and I think that's really clear whichever

748
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: it warrants at this point.

749
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: I know, I think there's only been one zero to

750
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: four team to make the playoffs in the last or

751
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: ever whatever it was.

752
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: Ever.

753
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever because in ninety two Chargers, if I'm not

754
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: mistaken correct, what's the path out for this Jaguars team?

755
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 5: Like?

756
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: Is there a path out for this team? Because I

757
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: guess Ben, when I looked started getting into the Jags

758
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: this week, and I kind of said it on our

759
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: podcast in our roundtable portion, I just assumed that they

760
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: were turning the ball over in droves and they were

761
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: not taking it away enough. They're not taking it away enough.

762
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: They're only have one takeaway all year, but they're also

763
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: not turning it over. So like, what is is there

764
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: a path out for this team given that it's not

765
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: like all these these recurring ball security issues, or is

766
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: there not a path out for this team to contend

767
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: this season?

768
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, first of all, it's it's looking more and

769
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 5: more unlikely that this is going to be a team

770
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: that can contend. That's first and foremost. But I will

771
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: say it does. I think it does have to start

772
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 5: defensively with the Jags. I mean, they have so much

773
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 5: invested upfront, particularly in that defensive line. Right, you had

774
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 5: josh Heinz Allen who had seventeen and a half sacks

775
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 5: last year. You have Trayvon Walker, former number one overall

776
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 5: pick at double digit sacks last year. You bring in

777
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: our Eric Armstead. I believe it was like three year,

778
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: fifty million something deal. We know the success he had

779
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: in San Francisco. It's going to have to start with

780
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 5: those guys upfront, and they weren't able to get after

781
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 5: well to bring C. J. Stroud down. They were able

782
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 5: to get after him a little bit, But then I

783
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 5: think about that Monday night game where they didn't sack

784
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 5: Josh Allen once. It was just an awful showing from

785
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: their part. But it's gonna have to start defensively. The

786
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: tricky part with that too is I talked about the

787
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: injuries that the Colts have kind of dealt with, but

788
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: with the Jags too. I mean their number one corner,

789
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: Tyson Campbell is on IR Darnell Savage kind of a

790
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 5: safety nickelback for them. He didn't play last week. Foy Aluacan,

791
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 5: who's one of the top middle linebackers in the NFL.

792
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: He's on IR Devin Lloyd, former first round pick a

793
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. He starts alongside Foya Luiken. He

794
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: missed this past game was kind of a surprise inactive

795
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 5: due to injury, and so they're gonna need these guys

796
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: back right in that back seven. But I think that

797
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 5: front is where they have so much invested in it,

798
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 5: and I think they're gonna need those guys to start

799
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 5: playing at a higher level because they don't have the

800
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: personnel on the outside to really challenge teams right because

801
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: of the way their secondary, how the back end has

802
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: kind of been decimated to this point, and offensively, I

803
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: don't think you can really lean on them right now

804
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 5: because I mean, Evan Ingram is hurt. And then as

805
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: I talked about the confidence issues with Trevor Lawrence, they

806
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: are getting Brian Thomas Junior and Christian Kirk the ball,

807
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 5: but it's still it's still not They're not really able

808
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 5: to get anything going and the confidence just doesn't seem

809
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 5: to be there. So I think the defensive line is

810
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: where it's going to have to start. With Jacksonville, All right,

811
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 5: let's talk about Tennessee. They beat the Miami Dolphins thirty

812
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: one to twelve on Monday Night Football, So like a

813
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: weird game, or Will Levis exits with the shoulder injury,

814
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: they bring on Mason Rudolph. They do some decent things,

815
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 5: but mostly that game to me then kind of felt

816
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 5: like the Dolphins just being not being able to function

817
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: as a as an NFL team without Tua in there.

818
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: What the Tennessee's one in three they've got to buy

819
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 5: coming up? And then they host the Colts in Week six.

820
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 5: Kind of the same question for you on the Titans,

821
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: as I just asked you on the Jaguars. What's the

822
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: what's Tennessee's path out of this slow start to the season. Well,

823
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 5: it has to start with Levis, right, and and better

824
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: decision making, right. I mean, nine turnovers in three games

825
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: and a drive or two is completely unacceptable. And yeah,

826
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 5: so it has to start there. I mean, they're we

827
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: could be having a completely different conversation if if Will

828
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 5: doesn't have some of these turnovers, these giveaways a kind

829
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: of like the worst situation possible, Like the situational decision

830
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 5: making has really hurt the Titans because I think otherwise,

831
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 5: I mean, their defense is played really well. They're number

832
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: one in total defense right now, they're number three and

833
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: yards allowed per play. They have a I mean, I

834
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 5: know they're the Titans have their own injuries that they're

835
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: dealing with too, but having luxurious sneed at corner to

836
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 5: Andre Sweat, rookie defensive tackle out of Texas, is a

837
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: handful ut at the nose spot. Uh, they have a

838
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: lot going for them defensively. And then I think they

839
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 5: have a pair of really good running backs and Tony

840
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 5: Pollard and and Tajy Spears, so they have the and

841
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 5: they have the personnel at wide receiver to make do

842
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 5: some damage. Right. But but I think it just kind

843
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: of comes back to that decision making and as Brian

844
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: Callahan told reporter at the end of last night's game

845
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 5: in Miami, like, as long as Will is healthy, like

846
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: he's their quarterback, right, so he needs to be able

847
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: to protect the ball. Because I think if they protect

848
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 5: the ball, this is a team that is a lot

849
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: more competitive than I think a lot of people think,

850
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: because I think top to bottom, like this isn't a

851
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 5: team that doesn't have talent. They have plenty of talent,

852
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: and so I think that's really what it comes down to.

853
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben, when they made all those moves in the

854
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: offseason to get Calvin Ridley, Legerius Snead, Tony Pollard, Bill Callahan.

855
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, like obviously we're talking about a coach there,

856
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: but I kind of thought, Okay, that's gonna just raise

857
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: their floor up as a team. Of Like, it's hard

858
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: for me to see this team not winning six or

859
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: seven games just with their level of talent. But like

860
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: you said, if will Levis keeps turning the ball over,

861
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: that's a problem there. I just real quick on their

862
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: defense there are Wilson comes in from Baltimore as defensive coordinator.

863
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was a really sharp hire by Brian

864
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: Callahan to bring him in, a guy from that like

865
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: McDonald tree out in Baltimore. What what is he brought

866
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: to that defense that's kind of led to some of

867
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: the success they've had so far.

868
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the aggressiveness first and foremost. They press guys,

869
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 5: They're they're aggressive at the line of scrimmage, they're they're

870
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 5: able to stop the run. The takeaways. So one thing

871
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: that hasn't quite worked to this point, and I know

872
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 5: the Titans are working on this is the takeaways. They

873
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 5: only have one or two on the season, and that's

874
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: kind of surprising, right, because of all the success that

875
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 5: Denard Wilson had in Baltimore with how many takeaways they

876
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: got last season and then the year before that with

877
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 5: the Eagles in their in their Super I believe it

878
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: was their Super Bowl year. So that's something that they're

879
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: hoping kind of changes. They got a takeaway for in

880
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: the Dolphins game last night, and and I think sometimes

881
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: will takeaways. When you see one, the floodgates open, so

882
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: to speak, And so I know they're hopeful for that.

883
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I think just his whole aggressive press

884
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,959
Speaker 5: man and that's why Lugerious Need is such a great fit.

885
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: We know what he was able to do for for

886
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 5: Kansas City and bringing that kind of philosophy to Tennessee

887
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: and what he was able to do against Tyreek Hill

888
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: last night. And yeah, I think the aggressiveness is the

889
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: biggest thing. But but the takeaways, I think if they

890
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 5: can start turning, they can start taking the ball away

891
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: from the opposing opposing team, that's when I think this

892
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: defense can really start to take off, right because if

893
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 5: they're already number one in total defense without being able

894
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: without giving their offense more opportunities, I think once they're

895
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 5: able to do that. I think this is when it

896
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: could really start to come together for them.

897
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 2: All Right, the Houston Texans are three to one. They

898
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: lead the AFC South, but maybe not the juggernaut that

899
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: I think some folks assumed they would be right out

900
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: of the gate. They lose by twenty seven to the

901
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings in week three. They have some narrow victories

902
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: over the Colts, the Bears, and the Jaguars. Is there

903
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: any reason to be worried if you're you know, if

904
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: you predicted Houston's gonna win the division? Is there any

905
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: reason to be worried that they might not run away

906
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: with this thing in the way that I think a

907
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: lot of folks sort of assumed they would based on

908
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: the offseason they had and then bringing CJ. Stroud into

909
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: year two.

910
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you're concerned if you have the

911
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: Texans kind of winning this division. I mean, first of all,

912
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: you have to look at what the division has looked

913
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 5: like to this point. But yeah, they do have a

914
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: lot of things to clean up in on offense right

915
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: this side the ball, where you thought it was just

916
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 5: just put up thirty thirty five points a game and

917
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: everything was going to be good. But I think what

918
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 5: we've learned to this point is how important Joe Mixon

919
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: is for the Texans. Like they need as much firepower

920
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: as they have at the past, catching spots, Tank Dell,

921
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 5: Nico Collins, Stefan Diggs, Dalton Schultz at tight end. They

922
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 5: need to be balanced, they need to be able to

923
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 5: keep defenses honest and not having Joe, I mean, we

924
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: saw what he did to the Colts right in Week one,

925
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: running for what nearly one hundred and sixty yards, and

926
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: since I mean he's kind of battled an ankle injury,

927
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 5: and I think and we've seen kind of the run

928
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: game not really play to its capability. I mean, last

929
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: week he didn't play. They didn't look that good running

930
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 5: the ball. The Minnesota game he played sparingly, he wasn't

931
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. They also struggled running the ball in

932
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 5: that game. So I think we've learned how important Joe

933
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 5: Mixon is. And I mean by it doesn't seem like

934
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: Joe Mixon's injury is going to be a long term thing.

935
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: So I think you have some you can find some

936
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: solace there if you're looking at the Texans. And then

937
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 5: I think just execution wise, like it's kind of been

938
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 5: surprising the number of penalties right, like they're kicking themselves

939
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: in the foot, Like Larmie Tunsel, as great as he

940
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: is one of the top blind side protectors left tackles

941
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: in the game, like he leads all offensive linemen in

942
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: penalties like false starts and what have you, and so

943
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: all that has to be cleaned up. So but yeah,

944
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: I think I don't. I don't think long term, you're

945
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 5: two concerned and and the fact that they're three and

946
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 5: one despite some of the issues they've had is quite promising.

947
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: I believe the number two in the AFC right now overall.

948
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 5: And then I think offensively, you look at like what

949
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 5: Nico Collins has been able to do even with Tank

950
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: Dell's slow start to the year and with his injury,

951
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: like he leading the NFL and receiving yards, he's really

952
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: taken another step in terms of being a guy pacing

953
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 5: for over two thousand yards right now, and so that

954
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 5: that's definitely helped issues on offense for them.

955
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: All Right, Always a good time to check in with you, Ben,

956
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: especially a good time with all your knowledge on the

957
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: AFC South. You can read Ben's work again on foxsports

958
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: dot Com and on the Fox Sports App. Follow him

959
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: on Twitter at Ben Why Arthur. Ben looking forward to

960
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: do this again with you sometime soon down the road.

961
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 5: Here sounds good, JJ, thanks for having me.

962
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Thank you, Ben Arthur. That's your guy. I

963
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: like what he's talking about. The AFU coltime. Hey, just

964
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: keep us up to the top in Houston. I'll tell

965
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: you what. Can't wait. That's when we're talking down the

966
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: road where like we were just a minute ago. Can't

967
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: wait for that one in Houston.

968
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: That's gonna be a part the shortage, a shortage of

969
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: content for Ben Arthur with the division right now, yeah,

970
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: right now?

971
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 4: Wow.

972
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean this, This division's got so many relevant players

973
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: in it that even though the Jaguars don't have a win,

974
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: they're an incredibly relevant team in the NFL because what's

975
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: going on with Trevor They just signed him to this

976
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: huge contract.

977
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: Now they can't win a game.

978
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: The Colts haven't won there in ten years in the

979
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: stadium they renamed the stadium tough.

980
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Hey, a cornered animal. At zero to four, anything can

981
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: happen in the division game. Guys, give me your quick

982
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: philops before you guys hop on a bird headed down

983
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville. What's gonna happen? What has to happen rather

984
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: this week for the Colts to continue on this run

985
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: and get their third straight.

986
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: It's this is not hot take by any means, but

987
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: it's what you did last week. It's win the turnover battle.

988
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: That's it for me. That's it for me.

989
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: Take the ball away defensively, take care of the football offensively.

990
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 4: That's all I need to see.

991
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: That's simple.

992
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: But to the point, because yeah, but Jacksonville has turned

993
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: over What a novel concept.

994
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: I know.

995
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: You absolutely have to win the turnover battle against Jacksonville

996
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: because they they've turned it over. Well, actually they've only

997
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: turned it over three times this year. That's probably some

998
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: bad bad I gotta I gotta dig into that a

999
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: little more. What's going on there?

1000
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Trevor, he starts coughing them up, jackson what's

1001
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: happening in Jacksonville? All that's coming up? Guys. I know,

1002
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: we got to get out of here. Lara Overton at

1003
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Lara Overton on Twitter X at JJ Stankowitz and I

1004
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: got a tip of the hat. It was such a

1005
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: great environment against the Steelers. It was a great way

1006
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: to win. Watching our guy go down and Joe Flacco

1007
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: come in. I'm gonna give him credit. I do it

1008
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: a lot, but he was so imperative this cat right

1009
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: here on the mic over there, because we needed it,

1010
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean the fans game. Yes, the fans needed narration.

1011
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: They needed to be tugged in hard. That's what you did.

1012
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: You brought him in. It was awesome. It was a

1013
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: great environment and a great win against that Steeler crowd,

1014
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: which I love two years in a row.

1015
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out, shout out to every Colts fan who

1016
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: showed up and drowned out the fans.

1017
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: That was great, well done, Well done the Jacksonville Jaguars, await.

1018
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: I just got to throw it out there right now.

1019
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: We're looking at a three and two week after this week. Yeah,

1020
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: I said it, Shane Steichen and the boys going down

1021
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville to break the curse. Lara, I know you

1022
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: agree with me, JJ, same way. We got a whole

1023
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: lot more to come this week. Wednesday practice is coming up.

1024
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Speaker 1: Go to Colts dot com for all your latest information, guys.

1025
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks to Ben Arthur as well. We're

1026
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Speaker 1: gonna be talking to you very soon. We'll see you

1027
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Speaker 1: this week in Jackson