1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's Up? 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Falcon's Final Whistle, presented 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: ivaxx's I'm your host Will McFadden, joined as always by 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Tory mclaney, and we have an amazing guest. We have 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: Kay Adams, the host of Up and Adams on Fando 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: TV and streaming live on YouTube weekdays at eleven am Eastern. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Usually I'm so bad at those, but I practiced in 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: the mirror last night and had to make sure that 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: I got a lockdown, so till. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: Thank you for being amazing and for inviting me on. Tory. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Great to see you stealing your sweater. Of course, it's 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: in the team shop. Everybody snatched it up before I do. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here. The energy in the 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: building is amazing. 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun, it really is. 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 5: So first things first, let's let's go through practice today. 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 5: You had your little setup up on the balcony cut 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 5: to watch practice kind of from a bird's eye view, 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 5: if you will. And the main point that I think 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 5: everybody took from this was that one we're recording this 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 5: on Kirk cousins birthday. 22 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the. 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 5: Music playing was very Kirk Cousins centric. From what I 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 5: have heard sources in the bill tell me hashtag sources 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 5: that this was like what he picked out, this is 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 5: what he wanted. 27 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: I needed to talk to no one to know that. 28 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting there and just watching. I go, wow, 29 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: that is like Green Day after Fallow, Up Boy, after 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: Jimmy Eat World, after the Killers, Like this is Kirk 31 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: Cousin's birthday playlist, either bat or They made a playlist 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: or turned on the Pandora station for two thousands just 33 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: to let him rock out. And I thought that was 34 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: so cute and amazing. And it was song after song, 35 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: bangor after bangor, and it took me back to just 36 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, college bartending. It was amazing, and I think 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: all of the media really appreciated it. 38 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: Today we were vibing out there. 39 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was providing an education toward young players as well. 40 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were keeping the vibes time. 41 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's his thirty sixth birthday. I'm sure 42 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: he's happy to, you know, be celebrated. We brought him 43 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: some cupcakes from up in Adams and I think Coat 44 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: said he'd give him a hearty birthday, a happy v Day, 45 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: and I said, yeah, I don't think you have to 46 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: get him anything. I think you and Terry did your 47 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: things and got him enough toys for his birthday. 48 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: You did enough though, absolutely, Yeah, they got him two 49 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: gifts over the weekend. Yes, what'd you think about the 50 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Matthew jud Don and Justin Simon signings. 51 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: I was with the Patriots. I kicked off my twenty 52 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: team up in Adam's training camp tour up there, and 53 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: I asked every person whether it was their quarterback, Jacobe Brissett, 54 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: their head coach, Dorod Mayo. I said, can this be 55 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: a top five defense, which it could be with Jude 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: on there? Can it be a top ten defense if 57 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: you don't have him? And across the board it was, 58 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, he's that important. We want him out here. 59 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: Business is business. I thought that it's going to be 60 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: a huge lift energy wise, not that you need it 61 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: because you have all running around, but just you know, 62 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: he brings a spark and I think a bit of 63 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: maybe more than anything, confidence that they can win a 64 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: Super Bowl here. I know that sounds a little wild, 65 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: but Matthew's not coming down here. If that's not the case. 66 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: He isn't agreeing to the trade, He's not you know, 67 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: without a new deal in place. He's not saying, let 68 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: me just ride this out. None of that stuff's even 69 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: in his head. If he doesn't think at chops or whatever. 70 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: That wasn't him, that was Simmons. But in the process 71 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: thinking I can win here, this is where I want 72 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: to be. I think that's huge. I think it's huge 73 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: for younger players to see. I could see it in 74 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: a ten year veteran Grady Jarrett's eyes. Today, I have 75 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: a guy who means business. And Beijon thought that the 76 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: most important impressive thing was that he finishes. He finished. 77 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Even just today he's dipping his toast, his first little taste. 78 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: He finished to play and he was still down field 79 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: fifteen yards and I was like, that is what they 80 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: need to finish. That's what all the best teams do. 81 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: So Judah, I'm super excited about I think when you 82 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: add you know, you see some teams have a lot 83 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: of success with adding that veteran presence to win a 84 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. You see it with von Miller and the Rams, 85 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: you see it with the Chiefs and Tyrone Matthew. It matters. 86 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: It matters that little there's that little and it's always 87 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: that guy that makes a play. When he needs to, 88 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: and hopefully that's Judah and Simmons. Of course, Turnover Machine 89 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: loved him, had a lot of suitors. Another thing of 90 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: confidence in the building of he could have gone other places. 91 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: He wants to be here. We went to Chops and 92 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: you know, we did our one two charisma punch of 93 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Terry and Raw and it worked and I think that 94 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: goes a long way. I do. 95 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 96 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: So you had the chance to sit down with Jean Robinson, 97 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 5: Grady j Raheem Morris for your show this morning. When 98 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: you look back at those conversations, what do you take 99 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 5: from those conversations and understanding maybe even what Raheem Morris 100 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: has infused into this building. 101 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: It's energy. It is the entire Raw experience is energy. 102 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: I knew you know, you can't. He's a very special person. 103 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: I can't bring up his name to anyone in the 104 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: NFL family without them lighting up. It's just true. It's 105 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: he's different. I asked him if he likes being the 106 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: most well liked coach, what's it like being the most 107 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: well liked coach in the NFL? And he said, I 108 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: don't want I want to be the most winning coach 109 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Want through a wall. Let's yeah, it's 110 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: it's it's what you need. I think he's got a 111 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: lot of confidence. I'm excited. I'm very curious to see 112 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: how the play calling goes on defense. Yeah, it's got 113 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: to be him. I can't see it not being him. 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: He really you think so, I think I'll have an 115 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: influence on it. 116 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: And that's why the Justin Simmons acquisition is so interesting 117 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: to me because if you kind of look at but 118 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: they've been doing in Los Angeles, and really I think 119 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: where the kind of individuality of this defense can be 120 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: the flexibility that they have on that back end. So 121 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: I really think that when you talk about a guy 122 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: like Graene Morris and Jimmy Lake and Jerry Gray and 123 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: like the amount of experience in the secondary coaching staff, 124 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: like they are going to have every single trick up 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: their sleeve that they can pull. And now they've got 126 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: guys out there that I think are much more capable 127 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: of executing it. 128 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: Sure, but you, I mean, one person's calling the place 129 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: and it's always fascinating, and I think it's a worse 130 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: thing to take it away from somebody. If you know, 131 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: you start with coach Lake and then Rock comes in 132 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: and takes it later in the season. I would hate that, 133 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: so it'll be interesting to see what decision they come to. 134 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: There's a huge selflessness on this team, which I can see. 135 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: It's what you're saying, and I think it comes from 136 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: something that I'm hearing all the player stress and it's 137 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: clear communication. It's hard to have a team full of superstars. 138 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: It it's hard to keep everyone happy. Take special people 139 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: like Bijon, but takes clear communication from coach this is 140 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: what the deal is. We're running the ball aton Kirk 141 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: where this is you know we're going to use the 142 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: whole offense is going to run through Robinson, all of that. 143 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: It takes clear communication, you know, to run a defense selflessly, 144 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: and I think that he's up to that task. Is 145 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: another thing that I really enjoyed about our conversation. 146 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 5: Something he talks about all the time is role clarity. 147 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: It comes up every single day with Raheem Morris and 148 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 5: something that I'm really interested when you're talking about roles 149 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: and you're switching over and talking about the offense a 150 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: little bit. The infusion of Kirk Cousins into this offense 151 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: immediately changes the expectation that you have for overall play, 152 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: overall production. So the question that we have for you 153 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 5: when you're looking at the big three, which is Kyle 154 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: Pittsjon Robinson, Drake London. Who of those three do you 155 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 5: think stands to gain the most by having Kirk Cousins 156 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: in the pocket? 157 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: Out of who, out of pits, who hits Bajon Drake 158 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: Bajeon one hundred percent? I think it's his best friend. 159 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: You've got a thirty six year old quarterback coming off 160 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: an Achilles injury. I'd say the same thing about Bruce 161 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: Hall and Aaron Rodgers. Your offensive line is looking good. 162 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: But Jean told me that himself. He's really happy with that. 163 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: He volunteered that information, did not, Yes, he told it. 164 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: He told me that. And this is somebody who wants 165 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: the work. I asked him, do you want three hundred 166 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: and fifty touches? Yes? He has. He gonna bark about them, no, 167 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: but he wants it. He wants He's sitting there watching 168 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: every Christian McCaffrey were wanting to be used in that. 169 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry Sierra carry gets four hundred plus touches a year. 170 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: Does bing want them? Yes? He said so. So it's 171 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: gonna be him, and then guys like Pits, guys like 172 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Mooney are gonna have a lot of beautiful opportunities off 173 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: of that. I think balance the team, run the ball, 174 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: let him catch out the backfield like he does and 175 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: wants to. And this is BIG's year, which is insane 176 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: to say. It's a kid in his second year coming 177 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: off of four hundred sixty three scrimmage yard season who 178 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: does not seem happy about it. 179 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: He is. 180 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: He is not satisfied, and I love that about him. 181 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: That's when running backs, I mean, they make a big 182 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: jump in your two McCaffrey did it, Chris Johnson did 183 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: it like that? Some of the best names out there 184 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: make that leap, and I think he's certainly capable of it. 185 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: And they seem intense on kind of looking at what 186 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey has done and seeing a player maybe capable 187 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: of some of the same things. 188 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: I asked him about going to a Week one Arthur Smith, 189 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: what's that going to be like? You know, you get 190 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: thirty five ki to touches, You're he goes, I'm gonna 191 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: go give him a big hug. Watch my show. It's 192 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: an interesting bite, he says. I'm going to give him 193 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: a big hug and then I'm going to keep it moving. 194 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: I think I think at times last year he wanted 195 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: the ball more, which is. 196 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Fair certainly, maybe near the goal line like stuff like that. 197 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: You get those kind of high leverage situations. You're an athlete, 198 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: you're a competitor. You want the ball in those spots. 199 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: And so I totally understand that if you had to 200 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 2: right now, if we had to make you stake your 201 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: claim on whether or not this is a top ten 202 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: offense at the end of the year, do you think 203 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: they fall into that when all of a sudden done. 204 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: If they're not a top ten offense, what are we 205 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: doing here? Absolutely? I don't know. Zach Robinson. Well, trust 206 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: Bejeon when he's sitting there telling me he's a total mastermind. 207 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: I have confidence he's gonna give me the ball when 208 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: you're loaded like this. Top ten is easy, Breezy. I 209 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: have big expectations for this team. They're the team to 210 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: beat not only your division, but with the help on defense, 211 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: hopefully you know these additions, these lifts, it's not just 212 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett and everybody else. That's how it's seen on 213 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: a national level. I think I don't know if it's 214 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: how it's seen here in Atlanta, but it's the defense 215 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: is the you know, proverbial punching bag. It's the story 216 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: of we can't they'll never figure it out, they never 217 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: have a tough defense. Well, now you have Raheem Morris, 218 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: and now you have bona fide names like really really illustrious, 219 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: pedigreed names. So I expect a lot from this team 220 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: too on offense and defense. Sure, top ten, yes, I'll 221 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: put this will be. If this isn't a top ten offense, 222 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit of a miss. 223 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: Today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle is brought to you 224 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: by Zaxby's. And after a long game, when I'm tired 225 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: and I need to refuel, I turned to Zaxbies their 226 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: marinated handbreaded fry to perfection chicken fingers. They get the 227 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: spot every time. 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That's something Will and I spoke a 234 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 5: lot about as soon as you got the news that 235 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: Matthew Judon and Justin Simmons were coming to Atlanta, was 236 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: that from a national perspective, the way you look at 237 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 5: this defense changes immediately with the inclusion of these guys. 238 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 5: And you're talking about having high expectations for this team. 239 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 5: And you brought up a good point, A big talking 240 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 5: point of Raheem Morris in his very first team meeting 241 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: was talking about this idea of outrunning the South, outrun 242 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: the South, be the top dog in the NFC South. 243 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 5: Sitting here right now, conversations that you've had, not only 244 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: would people in this building, people outside of this building. 245 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: Did the Falcons do enough this offseason and maybe even 246 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: the off season previously to put themselves in the position 247 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: to outrun this out. 248 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna know if everything was the 249 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: right decision for the next five years. I think that 250 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Pennex pick was alternative. Was them doing their own thing, 251 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: Was them trying to balance smartly winning now and being 252 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: all in and securing a future that maybe in the 253 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: wake of Matt Ryan didn't exist. Right. So there's lessons 254 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: that were learned and trying to do both is admirable. 255 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: The Rams didn't do that when Rahen was there. They 256 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: went all in and won, but they went all all 257 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: in that pick, you know, would have been used for 258 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: somebody to put around him. That's going to be discussed 259 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: widely if they missed by just a little bit, if 260 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: they you know, they're deep in the playoffs and they 261 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: needed that one, you know, Joe Alty or whatever, be 262 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: peace that they they were missing. It's going to be criticized, 263 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: but it's you know, a decision that us, you know, 264 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 3: as media will scrutinize and fans will hopefully support and 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: seeing what their vision is a lot of people try 266 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 3: to do. It's the same thing with it having a 267 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: lot of starts. A lot of people try to do. 268 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't work everywhere, very It takes a very special 269 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: coach organization mister Blank of course, and takes leadership. But 270 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: but I don't think we can well know for a 271 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: couple of years. But it's uh, I love what I 272 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: think mister Pennix is in the best situation. 273 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 4: Well, that was what I was going to ask you. 274 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: It's like everybody my favorite right, Like everybody has this. 275 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: Story of where they were when Michael Pennix was taken 276 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 5: number eight overall by the Falcons. Yeah, what were what 277 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: was your initial reaction to that? 278 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: What's Kirk thinking? What's Kirk thinking like he wants to be? 279 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: Is it going to light a fire him a little bit? 280 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: Like not that he doesn't have it, But you know Brady, 281 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 3: they brought on Garoppolo. We got the best out of 282 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: Brady when that happened. So I think that there's you know, 283 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: a little some pushing. It's obviously Kirk's job, which is beautiful. 284 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: There is a question of what's Kirk going to what 285 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: look like? That's the question you have about this team, 286 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: paper to play, is it going to translate? And a 287 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 3: huge part of that's what Kirk is going to look 288 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: like starting the season against the Steelers and then into 289 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: the postseason. But Penix, man, you like, there's nothing, there's 290 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 3: nothing more you want than that. You want Jordan Love 291 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 3: sitting back behind Rogers. You want Mahomes to sit down 292 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: and have a little breathing room to develop behind packed 293 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: behind Alex Smith. You want that. The not getting reps 294 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 3: some preseasons interesting, but I'll leavette do you guys? 295 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: Well, But that is like the funny duality of all 296 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: of it, right, is because people love in the aftermath 297 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: of the quarterback panning out, who sat for a couple 298 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: of years? Oh, that was the smartest decision ever do 299 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: it like that? That's how teams should do it. And 300 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: then when you make the selection, it's opportunity cost and 301 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: it's like, well, instead of for the twenty twenty four 302 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: season having this new pass rusher off the edge or 303 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: a new cornerback or what have you, it's like, now 304 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: this guy's going to be sitting in and learning. 305 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: We're not going to see him for a mull. 306 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's the Aaron atoun to bring up Aaron Rodgers. 307 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: But you know that was them trying to balance. He 308 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: wanted weapons and they were planning for their future. Would 309 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: they have won if they had added a couple of 310 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 3: pieces for him maybe, So it'll be it'll be that 311 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: different coaching situation, different you know, obviously completely different situations. 312 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: But I like the feeling in the building that I 313 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: have right now that there's a lot of faith in Kirk. 314 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: I don't feel like there's questions about him in this building, 315 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: which I think is going to go a long. 316 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Way and you've seen, I mean the way that he 317 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: has kind of commanded out in practice, the way he 318 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: has pushed all of the guy like this is his 319 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: team right now. There's not a doubt in my mind. 320 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: And they're also putting the onus on. 321 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: Taylor Heineke's team. That's what I thought of practice. 322 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: And during the free season, number four on the roster, 323 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: number one. 324 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: But you're right, it is his team. I mean, if 325 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: he's playing fall Out Boy and Good Charlotte, but y'all 326 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: better know this is his team exactly right. 327 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: You can't get away with that out there if you're 328 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: not the guy. But it's yeah, it's just the field, 329 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: the way he's pushing him self honestly, so far in practice. 330 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: I know he's not going to get out there in 331 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: the preseason, but he is almost making each practice rep 332 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: feel like a live game situation. And so that is 333 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: where I think you're going to see maybe this offense 334 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: start a little faster than people might expect. 335 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 336 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: I think another key part of that is the front 337 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: loaded division aspect of this schedule. When you first kind 338 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: of saw Atlanta schedule and they've got five of their 339 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: six division games before Week ten, I mean how important 340 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: is it for all of this to kind of come 341 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: together quicker. 342 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: It's important, and it's I think people think it's favorable. 343 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: I don't subscribe to that, you know, I do not 344 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: like I can tell you that most coaches will say 345 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: week one, what's week one? What do you learn about 346 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: anybody till week seven? 347 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 348 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: What do you learn about anybody till week eight? So 349 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: there's a lot of I think a fortune that goes 350 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: into those games. I think you don't know who you 351 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: truly are, especially without a preseason game. I mean, so 352 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: that's another interesting little wrinkle in coach's decision not to 353 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: play Kirk. Yeah, is those games are super important, as 354 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: we know, crucial to start the season. But you know, 355 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: teams usually start out rusties do teams usually How often 356 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: do you look back and say, I knew this was 357 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: going to happen. They were so good week one, or 358 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: they were so bad week one. It's not true, it's 359 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: not what happened. So you sort of beat yourself up 360 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: a little bit in those first division games and try 361 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: to come out on skates. But super important games. But 362 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: I'd like to see Kirk raw show us. We want 363 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: to see bee Beich beich Beach. We want to see 364 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: track London. I want to see me. I'm from Chicago, 365 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: like Mooney to have a second app story, like I like, 366 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: I want to see these things. But he's you know, 367 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: he's in his bag and he's holding it shut. 368 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: K Kirk was sprinting down after a player today, so 369 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: he looks, he looks good, he looks ready to go. 370 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: Toy before we wrap up, you got anything else you 371 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: want to ask? 372 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, just one last thing about the tour that you've 373 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: been on through training camp. What did you learn just 374 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 5: big picture about where the league is going, what coaches 375 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: are saying. Is there a tidbit of information that you're like, 376 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that with me as we go into 377 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four season. 378 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: I think interesting. The ideas about preseason are all over 379 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: the place, right and I'm so over them, Like if 380 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: I would do this next year again, I'm not asking 381 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: about snapcounts. I'm not asking it only traps coaches. Certainly, 382 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: it's not a good a good vibe. Everyone's going to 383 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: make different decisions. So I think, you know, coaches having 384 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: different philosophies on that super fascinating. I've talked to them 385 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: about that. I think what I noticed about the players 386 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: is they're young and they want to feel like they belong. 387 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: And that sounds really trite and obvious, but there's players 388 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: who win you take care of them to down in 389 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: Miami just is a different player judah On here want 390 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: feeling wanted. You'll see a different side of him. Just 391 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: the idea of like, more than ever, wanting to feel 392 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: like you belong somewhere is important, and I think it's 393 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: really fun to watch these thirty six year old quarterbacks 394 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: like Kirk relate to the younger generation. I think gen 395 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: z is very much. They want to buy, they want 396 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: they want you to sell them something, and they want 397 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: to decide whether or not they subscribe. And it's fun 398 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: watching the OG coaches like Tomlin and Champayne and sort 399 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: of have to relate and get these guys to buy in. 400 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: And I think the idea of being a player friendly 401 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 3: coach like you have here, whether or not that's a 402 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: good or bad thing, is something that's also really interesting. 403 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I took a point that's fascinating, and I'm just 404 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: trying to like juxtapose that with like the transfer portal 405 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: and a lot of people thinking. I think that the 406 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: younger players have more of a me first mindset. But 407 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: I think you're totally right. I think when you give 408 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: them a home and you give them something to buy into, that, yeah, 409 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: they like people can all come together and galvanize and 410 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: like really pull in the same direction. So that's that's 411 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: a really cool insight. Okay, thank you so much for 412 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: joining us. Well, Tory, tell everybody what you got going on. 413 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: We're headed to We're headed to New Orleans. 414 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: Okay, you're saving the worst for last. 415 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: It's like not worried about New Orleans at all. 416 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: Where's the thing? 417 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 5: Well, I could go back and forth on it. 418 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. In history will tell you this. 419 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: It does not matter how good one team is versus 420 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 5: the other. Every single time those two play takes a 421 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 5: toss up. Yeah, every single time. You can see in 422 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 5: years past the Saints been just absolute favorites. Falcons go 423 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: down there and break some hearts, same exact thing happens 424 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 5: two years later. 425 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: When things are red. That's it makes it so fun, 426 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 4: that's what makes it a good rivalry. 427 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: So we're headed there where there's some questions with a 428 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: quarterback spot too, and everything, the whole division and then yeah, 429 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 3: that's it. Then we're wrapping it up. We're wrapping it 430 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: up where the Super Bowl is or maybe we'll see 431 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: Atlanta fingers crossed. Thanks guys, Yeah no. 432 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Kay, We really appreciate it. 433 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for listening and watching today's 434 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: episode of Falcons Final Whistle, presented by Zaxby's Four k 435 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: Adams and Sparaclaney and Will macatten and we will see 436 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: you guys tomorrow