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Speaker 1: There he is most popular man at the winter meetings.

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Speaker 1: That was funny. Aja, I haven't talked to you since

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was exhausted, I know that it was.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a lot of schmoozing and saying hello and

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Speaker 3: Scott got to meet people from all these companies that

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Speaker 3: Nike and all these weird companies and Scott's like, wait,

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Speaker 2: So, you know, that was that was also fun.

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Speaker 1: No, there's some random ones crafts where they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't do the batting gloves, but there's like this

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Speaker 1: I'm just making it up, but you know, like there's

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Speaker 2: For, Scotty. If Scotty played, he would have been in

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Speaker 2: no batting gloves guy. No shin guard guy. He would

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Speaker 2: have just gone out with some bobo all American cleats

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Speaker 2: and just stood up there and been like, coach, I'm

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Speaker 1: Happy go Moore right to the chest.

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Speaker 2: But he would have been in the minor leagues. He

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Speaker 2: He would have been that guy like a big league

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Speaker 2: the big league symbol, the major League Baseball symbol, this

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Speaker 2: one right here, and he would have That's what he

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Speaker 2: would have done. But you were exhausted because forty one

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Speaker 2: times during our shows at the Winter Meetings, the two

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Speaker 2: camera at somebody else, I had a full final tally heroes.

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Speaker 2: Forty one times. It shows you, I guess you're exhausted.

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Speaker 2: You guys were exhausted only forty one.

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Speaker 3: I would have thought it was way more than forty

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Speaker 2: It was way more, felt like, way more than forty

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Speaker 1: It felt me think about it, a forty one times

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Speaker 1: that our show gets interrupted in a three day span,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot. That's like ten times per shows, it.

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Speaker 2: Still felt like way more than that.

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Speaker 1: It's still the amount of times people came up to

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Speaker 2: There was one.

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Speaker 1: The best one was like a fan who's just coming

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Speaker 1: it's like a fan running on the field. It was

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Speaker 1: starting to get dicey. And that's all I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: about that one. The bar scene last thing to you.

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Speaker 1: The bar scene was really fun because the lobby bar

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Speaker 1: I didn't do Monday, thankfully, because I would have been

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to name the person, but someone came

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Speaker 1: than him. I was like, he doesn't know me.

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Speaker 2: Like that lost you lost that bet. Me you lost, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you lost that bet.

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Speaker 1: I closed the place that I left two three hours

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Speaker 1: before me. I told you that story, I said, I said,

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Speaker 2: I said, I know who this person was. I was

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Speaker 2: there with them. I was there with them that night too.

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Speaker 1: The night before, right, or did that night?

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Speaker 2: You were there with them that night? Yeah? I was

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Speaker 2: there with them. Now, well, it was great.

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Speaker 3: There was more managers in the UH in the bar

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, right, it's cratch. You'll love this one.

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Speaker 3: So I'm standing there and I'm talking to I don't

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Speaker 2: Do you? And I said, I know who you are.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, give me a second. You worked for.

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Speaker 3: And I and I go you work for Oakland And

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, wait, that's wrong. You're Milwaukee, You're Schwarger,

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Speaker 3: Schweger Schweeger, schwipper, slapper slams, and you're the quibent guy

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Speaker 2: He just started he busted out laughing. He's like, I

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Speaker 3: I knew it. You would get it eventually. And he's like,

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Speaker 2: You don't even know what I look like. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, that's not true. Crats made me do it.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm fine if you throw me under the bus.

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Speaker 2: But Shogar Sagar is brutal, clubhouse haircut, brutal, and you're

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Speaker 2: you're much better with names. I would have sucked there.

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Speaker 2: I've been like, hey, you, how is everything going? And

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Speaker 2: be like, hey, this is my friend Aj. If you

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Speaker 2: remember now.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much. That's pretty much why I had Scott

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Speaker 3: you run into people like, you know, Johnny Gomes, who's

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, uh you just there's like just people

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Speaker 3: cool to see a lot of those guys Harold and

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Speaker 3: Matty Vee and those guys who I haven't seen. You

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Speaker 3: don't see that much. And am Singer with his perfect

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Speaker 3: hair that makes God jealous. You know, things like that,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You see hotel reps that when you used to stay

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a total schmooze fest.

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Speaker 1: I did a full on debate at like three am

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Speaker 1: with Greg about a bunch of league topics. It was great.

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Speaker 1: It was like a show. If you could just put

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Speaker 1: I worked there. You can't say those things.

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Speaker 2: Favorite people my favorite people to see at those things.

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Speaker 2: I went to the Winter meetings for one half a day.

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Speaker 2: I flew in and flew out when it was last year.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing the trainers because I went to the

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Speaker 2: a thumbguard that is, you know, revolutionizing the game. I

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Speaker 2: I really like all the other guys. It's cool to

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Speaker 2: that are fun to hang out with. But I love

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Speaker 2: seeing those behind the scenes people because it's kind of

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Speaker 2: out and like they're they're they're not they're not technically working.

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Speaker 2: Even though they're there for their job, They're not technically working.

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Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun to hang out with those guys.

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Speaker 1: We decided as a network going we're gonna go back

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Speaker 1: every time we can go. Now, next year we won't

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Speaker 1: but you're definitely not having the winter meetings. Just throwing

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Speaker 1: that out there. All right, we got breaking news and

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Speaker 1: a ton of things to hit. Let's start. The Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Phillies have found their missing outfielder and his name is

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Speaker 1: Adolis Garcia ALCSMVP from twenty twenty three and has had

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Speaker 1: two down years since. But maybe the Phillies find a

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Speaker 1: little magic here. Krats, What do you think of the move?

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Speaker 1: They definitely wanted to do some things with their outfield.

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Speaker 1: Max Kepler gone, Nick Castianis eventually will be gone. A Dolice.

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Speaker 1: Garcia is not the same bat anymore. He's not getting

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Speaker 1: And he does still have a cannon for an arm

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Speaker 1: and a pretty strong glove range wise, do you think

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Speaker 1: this is going to help the Phillies more so than

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's the Max Kepler twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's right handed. Obviously he's had better seasons than

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Speaker 2: Max Kepler. But when you talk about like his own

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Speaker 2: think you sit there and you go, what is the

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Speaker 2: reason that they signed him? Well, the reason is they're

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Speaker 2: probably not making a huge splash in the outfield market,

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Speaker 2: and I think of the not huge splashes, this is

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Speaker 2: probably the best available. And we always talk about teams

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Speaker 2: like the Rays, Like when the Rays go and get

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Speaker 2: a picture, you're like, whoa, you know what is what

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Speaker 2: are they gonna unlock? Anytime Kevin Long is your hitting coach.

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Speaker 2: If a Dooley Scarcia is willing to listen, I have

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Speaker 2: never seen anybody go and hit with Kevin Long for

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Speaker 2: and willing to work. So maybe I'm a little bit

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Speaker 2: It's more of a blip in the radar for me.

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Speaker 2: But don't expect him to hit forty home runs, Like

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Speaker 2: I just don't see that coming into it. But if

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Speaker 2: he can get back to the twenty five to thirty range,

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Speaker 2: to me, that is a massive, massive pickup for the

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Speaker 2: Phillies because he's just he's not gonna be an on

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Speaker 2: Can he hit a fastball again? Can you figure out

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Speaker 2: how to hit a fastball again? Figure it out?

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Speaker 3: That's where he went away. Did they stop throwing fastballs

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Speaker 3: in the NL East? Because if they didn't, he has

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Speaker 3: struggled for two years since that, since twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: when they won a World Series of hitting fastballs and

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Speaker 3: high fastballs, and that's kind of the new thing, and

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Speaker 3: teams figured it out, and once they got him locked

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Speaker 3: in on those high fastballs, then they were throwing the

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Speaker 3: breaking balls and he would expand. So, yeah, I love

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Speaker 3: k Long and what he's been able to do. But

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Speaker 3: at Dolic's Garcia is how old is he? How old

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Speaker 3: do you guys say he was thirty three? He's getting

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Speaker 3: up there, right, because according to most front offices, twenty

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Speaker 3: eight you're like too old to play anymore. So at

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Speaker 3: thirty three, jeez, he can't figure it out.

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Speaker 2: You know, he can.

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Speaker 3: It's just he's going to take some work. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: have to make some swing adjustments. And this guy's an athlete.

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Speaker 3: This guy's jacked. But I don't know, unless he figures

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Speaker 3: out how to hit the high four seam fastball, I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's what they're going to be able

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Speaker 2: to get out of him. I also think it could

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Speaker 2: help him because he's going to be more of like

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Speaker 2: if he's hot, a fifth or six hitter, if he

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Speaker 2: gets hot with the Rangers. As soon as you get

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Speaker 2: hot for a week, the Rangers are gonna be like

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Speaker 2: here he is, here, he is twenty twenty three a Dolies.

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Speaker 2: You know ALCS MVP adules like this is we got

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Speaker 2: to move him back into three four hole or or

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Speaker 2: seekers out of the lineup. Oh, we got to put him.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's up there, he's he's our guy now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll ever be no matter how hot

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Speaker 2: don't think he'll ever be more than a fifth or

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Speaker 2: six hitter. Which again, if you get twenty five to

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Speaker 2: thirty home runs on a team that was starving for

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Speaker 2: home runs, it would be a massive, massive upgrade for

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Speaker 2: the Phillies. I just I wouldn't hold my breath if

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Speaker 2: you're a Phillies fan, because when you're expecting a successful

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Speaker 2: season to be two fifty three hundred on base percentage

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Speaker 2: and twenty five home runs, don't expect the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three adulties. Just don't even even though he's in a

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Speaker 2: platform year, and you know, some crazy things happen in

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Speaker 2: platform years. I just wouldn't put the level of expectation

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Speaker 2: too high upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Also, keep in mind Justin Crawford should get his chance

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Speaker 1: this year. I know it's a prospect, so you got

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Speaker 1: to see what it looks like. That's Carl's son, but

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Speaker 1: he's a pretty highly regarded prospect for Philly. So maybe

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Speaker 1: Justin's out there, Dolice is out there. It looks very

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Speaker 1: different in the outfield for the Phillies this coming season.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's an upgrade because it's a right handed bat,

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Speaker 2: and I think they had some they had some issues

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Speaker 2: making sure that they killed lefties. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: Dolees is a platoon, but Justin Crawford is lefty. You

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Speaker 2: already have Brandon marsh he's lefty. Is he an upgrade

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Speaker 2: over what Harrison Bader gave them at the end of

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Speaker 2: the season. No Philly fans want Harrison Bader. I just wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Phillies are going to dip into

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Speaker 2: they're bringing him back. Is he an upgrade over Kepler?

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Speaker 2: I think you'll get a little bit more juice and

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Speaker 2: a little bit less on base percentage. So how to

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Speaker 2: say it's an upgrade? I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think a Doles will play a better He'll definitely play

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Speaker 2: a better right field than Costiano's. But you can't have

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Speaker 2: a Doles taking time away from Justin Crawford if Justin

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Speaker 2: Crawford hits the ground running for him.

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Speaker 1: So what's the ideal layout here?

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Speaker 3: Marsh jesus, I don't know. Dole's has to play right,

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Speaker 3: Castianos has to be gone.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I still think they need another outfielder.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think with Crawford, I think

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Speaker 2: Crawford plays center. I think Marsh plays left. I think

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Speaker 2: Crawford breaks with the team. You think Crawford breaks opening

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Speaker 2: day with the team. Wow, Okay, from what I've From

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Speaker 2: what I've heard, even Jim Jim Salisbury said it, But

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Speaker 2: I've heard it from pretty reliable sources. It's his job

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Speaker 2: to lose now. Is he going to be the everyday

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Speaker 2: center fielder? I don't know. I don't know if they'll

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Speaker 2: they'll you know, throw him in left and have Marsh

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Speaker 2: say okay. You know, Marsh was a good center fielder

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Speaker 2: before they started getting Bader, before they did the Johann

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Speaker 2: Rojas experiment. But I think their ideal, if it would

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Speaker 2: work out, would be Brandon marshan left a Dooley's Garcia

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Speaker 2: it will. You know, I think that could kind of

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Speaker 2: change based on you know, what you do a Wes

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Speaker 2: Wilson in left when they face a lefty, because they've

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Speaker 2: been just they will not let Brandon marsh face a

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Speaker 2: in that sense starting the year.

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Speaker 1: I know this is not young or old for rookie terms,

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Speaker 1: but Justin Crawford's going to turn twenty two years old

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Speaker 1: in January, so this will be his age twenty two

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Speaker 1: season coming up. It's time, Yeah, it's time. We were

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Speaker 1: going to talk to Jim Boden later, but he has

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Speaker 1: commented on other shows of his like, hey, Philly's a

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Speaker 1: little bit conservative compared to most teams with their prospects.

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Speaker 1: They like to let him marinate and that's fine, and

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Speaker 1: they also don't have as many spots open. But his

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Speaker 1: point was, what yours is. It's time. Let's go, let's

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Speaker 1: see what this looks like. Right, okay, but let's try

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Speaker 1: this out in the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: Everything's there. Trying it out in the big leagues. To

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Speaker 2: me is Justin Crawford. He has the talent to make adjustments,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to be a guy that has to

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Speaker 2: make the adjustments in the big leagues. You can say, Justin,

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Speaker 2: we need you to elevate the ball more. That's that's

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Speaker 2: the biggest knock against him. Elevating the ball and triple

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Speaker 2: A against dudes who are not very close to the

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Speaker 2: whoa fifteen home runs in a full triple A season.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'd rather see him at

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Speaker 2: twelve home runs in the big leagues and learn around

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Speaker 2: a lot of big leagu vets because he's not going

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Speaker 1: What else do we want for Philly? Anything on the

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Speaker 1: wish list?

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Speaker 2: They need a catcher and a reliever. They don't have JT.

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Speaker 3: They gonna run a Marshan out there every day. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of where you're at. So they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: another reliever. I know they have Deran and Alvarado, but

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Speaker 3: they can always kirk Ring and some of these others.

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Speaker 3: But another veteran will look nice in the back end.

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Speaker 3: If they want to win the World Series, which is

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Speaker 3: what their goal is.

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Speaker 2: For me, they need that. I think it lies in

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Speaker 2: Pete Fairbanks or a Pete Fairbanks type. I don't have

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Speaker 2: the list right in front of me. I think obviously

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Speaker 2: they weren't in the elite level. I don't even think

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Speaker 2: they're in like the closer level where I know Kenley

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Speaker 2: just signed, but not getting like a Kenley Jansen. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's like a Kennley's not coming to be

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Speaker 2: the eighth inning guy. He's not coming to the team.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be the closer to get this closer

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Speaker 2: saves records. But I think you know, it sits in

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Speaker 2: the Pete Fairbanks type of type of move. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: move Strom to be not so lefty heavy, even though

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Speaker 2: Strom's not even really like a left on left guy.

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Speaker 2: They already have Tanner Banks and Jose Alvarado, and maybe

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Speaker 2: they would get right handed somewhere somewhere in a trade

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Speaker 2: or something like that. So I think that's that's where

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Speaker 2: it sits. Obviously you need catcher, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: JT or there might be a little bit of panic

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Speaker 1: There that's Harper's b ff two remember last time and

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Speaker 1: Schwarber's yeah, and Schwerber that's right.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: If this was the Mets, they'd be like, Nope, not

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Speaker 1: good enough. You guys got bounced in the first round

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs or the DS, right, you got to

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Speaker 1: buying them the DS, breaking the band up. You guys

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Speaker 1: aren't allowed to be buddies again. I mean a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a different situation. I know I'm around, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but still I do think for Philly, I guess the

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Speaker 1: one other thing is, you know, is Alec Bohm back

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Speaker 1: for one more season? Right, because he's a free agent

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Speaker 1: after this year or is it next after next year?

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Speaker 1: I think they think this is a platform, yere.

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Speaker 2: This is last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe maybe if there's a way that they

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Speaker 2: talking about ninety seven State, a guy that doesn't hit

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Speaker 2: something as comparable in the lineup. A lot of work.

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Speaker 3: So there's questions for a team that's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: Hmm, let's get to another team in the division. Shake

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Speaker 1: it up. We didn't know it at the time, but

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Speaker 1: the Times out there, he was torn because he wanted

433
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Speaker 1: to go to the Mariners and they just weren't getting

434
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: up to the offer that the Mets were. I mean,

435
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: you never loved to see that when you're a Mets

436
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 1: fan or a fan of any team like you were

437
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: his second option, but you paid him to go there.

438
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: Not that he's going to play any differently, but he

439
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: really wanted to go back to Seattle. What do you

440
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: think of the player? Though, jam And you got to

441
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: watch him in the Division series that you covered for

442
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: Fox that you broadcasted. He had a great, great postseason

443
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: and he is nothing like Pete Alonzo, very different profile player.

444
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: Uh, do you get the good Polonko?

445
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 3: Do you get the Polanco from twenty twenty five because

446
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four he wasn't very good if you remember,

447
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty four there he went back to

448
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: Seattle on a one year, seven million dollar deal just

449
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 3: as kind of like who somebody will take me back?

450
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 3: So which one are you getting? And the next question

451
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: for me is who's in the Mets infield right now?

452
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: Because is he going to play first base?

453
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: For him?

454
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: Because don't they have Simeon playing second? Don't they have

455
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: Lindork short Brent Batty at third? Fiento said first, So

456
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: where does he play? That's my question? Because the ah, okay,

457
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: but do you want to lock that up with a

458
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: guy who doesn't hit a ton of homers and can

459
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: be up and down offensively.

460
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: Right, So this was a you know what this felt.

461
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: Like, and Mets fans, you're gonna hate Crafts or saying

462
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: for him saying this, But this felt like a panic

463
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: signing because they didn't saynyone else and they're like, we

464
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: gotta sign somebody make our fans abby, So let's just

465
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: go sign nothing plunk is on a nice player.

466
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it just worked.

467
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't fit in the it doesn't fit what you

468
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: would think that the Mets would be looking for. And

469
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: maybe he'll prove me wrong, and I hope he does,

470
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: but I just I just don't know why Krats would

471
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 3: think that this doesn't work.

472
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why I'm thrown under the bus, but

473
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and for first, for I can take that.

474
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: I can take that from Mets fans first though, Scott,

475
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: you said, oh man, you don't feel good that the

476
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: Mets had to give extra money to get a guy

477
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: to the place where you know he wanted to go

478
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: back somewhere else, but because they spent the money. Look,

479
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: the Mets got to do this we talked about this.

480
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: If the Mets, Mets fans are gonna look at it

481
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: and go, well, you could have just spent more on

482
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo, Well you could have spent more on Porgee Polonko.

483
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: This is really who the Mets wanted. This is where

484
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: David Stearns and maybe Stevie Cohen. I think this is

485
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: probably a little below Stevie Cohen's care meter. He's like,

486
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: talk to me when we get twenty million a year, guys,

487
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: then I'll talk about it. But you know, I think

488
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: this is who they wanted, and so good for the Mets.

489
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: I would say good for the Mets that they had

490
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: to pay a little bit more to pull him away

491
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: from a place where he wanted to be. My thing

492
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: is Jorge polon Can you talk about up years, down years?

493
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 2: You know what is causing that? I can have plenty

494
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: of theories. Does he come into this lineup and his

495
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: strikeouts keep spiking because all his years, his worst years,

496
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: his strikeouts spike And why are they spiking? I have

497
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: no idea. Is it because he becomes more of a

498
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: focal point? You know, he came to Seattle that year

499
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: and he struck out. I forget what one hundred and

500
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: thirty seven times last year he dropped that by fifty five,

501
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: fifty five less strikeouts in almost the exact same amount

502
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: of at bats. And to me, is it because of

503
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: who's around him? So do the Mets get more value

504
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: out of this signing? No matter if he's playing at

505
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: first base or DH Likeugh just doesn't feel like a

506
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: great first base or DH signing. But are they getting

507
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: more value out of him? Because Lindor is going to

508
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: be ahead of him hitting, Soto is gonna be ahead

509
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: of him hitting, And he's not the guy when he

510
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: goes to the Mariners like they're expecting him to be

511
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: his own base percentage self and he just fell into

512
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: the Mariner's mold of well, everybody strikes out, so I'm

513
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: going to strike out. He had his largest spike in strikeouts.

514
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: So how does he How do they get the most

515
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: value out of him? Maybe they see something that hey,

516
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: when he's watching guys like Soto take his pitches, he

517
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: becomes more he becomes less aggressive and doesn't need to

518
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: feel like he has the weight of the team on

519
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: his shoulders. I don't know. I'm confused that they now

520
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: have a corner to the market on Jorge Polanco and

521
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon at second base, and it's like, well, only

522
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: one can play second. Do you think Simon's gonna DH Like,

523
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. No, he's not, because he wants to

524
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: play every day and he's got to do second. His

525
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: values in defense, Yeah, his values in defense. So I'm

526
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: confused when teams like the Orioles last year when they

527
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: went and got Tyler O'Neil was like, this isn't where

528
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: they need to spend their money, but they did. So

529
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: I don't know all the inner workings, but from the outside,

530
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: I think he's a good player. I just am confused

531
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: that that's where, like, is this the replacement for pee Alonzo?

532
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: If it is, whoa boy.

533
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: It is the replacement for Pee Alonzo? Guys, it is

534
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I mean, aj, you're coming into the season not expecting

535
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: everyone to be hurt. Actually, they have a really durable infield.

536
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Lindor plays, Semion plays Beaty. I guess is younger. But

537
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: if you figure those guys are healthy and if Beaty

538
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: takes another step, then or hey, Planco is your first baseman,

539
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: maybe splitting time with Bientos and dah.

540
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: Why why that's why the signing doesn't make sense. Why

541
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: go trade for Simon and inside Polonco, go get someone,

542
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: Go get somebody else that can fill that role. Polanco's

543
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: not a forty plus home run guy. He's really never

544
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 3: played first base.

545
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: One.

546
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: You have Vientos, so.

547
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: You got to get at bats. You have Beaty who

548
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: you need to get at bats to. Why it doesn't

549
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: This is why this signing doesn't make any sense to me.

550
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: Why where does he fit in this roster other than

551
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: just giving a player to Carlos Mendoza and saying, try

552
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: to figure out how to play him.

553
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm confused. He played last year. He played one

554
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: game at first that was his first game started at

555
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: first base, five at third base. So if you're looking

556
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: for like a if you're looking for like a versatile player,

557
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. He hit eighty I didn't know this

558
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: aj you covered the Mariners. He hit eighty seven star arts,

559
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: eighty seven starts at DH. I had no idea, and

560
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: the Mariners I felt like kind of hamstrung themselves a

561
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: few years ago when they signed Mitch Garver. Yes, he

562
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: can catch, and they had him catch a little bit

563
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: more this year, but it was more like, hey, you

564
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: know he's going to be that DH. They were lucky

565
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: that cal Raley can play one hundred and fifty games

566
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: behind a dish like you you kind of have. I

567
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: just am confused at when you put a guy like this,

568
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: he's kind of like, is he your backup second basement

569
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: if something happens to Simeon. If that's the case, why

570
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: do you make that trade? Like, why do you make

571
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: the trade for a guy who's durble? That's his superpower,

572
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: that's Simeon's superpower. That's a position you don't need to

573
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: backfill out. Luis Anghelkunya is your backup second basement. I

574
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: am confused by this because you would think there would

575
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: be a higher value DH out there on the market,

576
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: But maybe they don't see it that way.

577
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: They might be trading some of their young Guyskuna, Ronnie

578
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Mauricio and others could get dealt for pitching. The one

579
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: thing I think they will try and do is pluck

580
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: a pitcher because they don't want to play ball with

581
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: the long term starting pitching contracts. If that's not you,

582
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: there is a way to get around that, and that

583
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: is trading for guys.

584
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: What is Luis and Hella Cuna, gonna get your top

585
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: flight starting pitcher. In order for them to get top

586
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: flight starting pitcher, you know what they're gonna have to

587
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: do trade some of their pitching prospects, and a lot

588
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: of teams, like the Mets don't want to do that.

589
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: They're gonna say, well, you know, especially if you're the Mets,

590
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: if you can go sign a guy, why don't you

591
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: go sign a guy if you can make a treat

592
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: you know, would have made more sense for the Mets

593
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: could tell Marte.

594
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Too soon, Oh my gosh, yes, yes, it would have

595
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. But the problem is the ask.

596
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Okay, if you're gonna go out, if you're gonna go

597
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: out and get a top flight starting pitcher, and you're saying,

598
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: are going to use their prospects, how high do you

599
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: think he asked, it's going to be for that McLean

600
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: and tong for whoever you want to go get.

601
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 1: I think they would ask, no, right, that's right away, No,

602
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: but you're not trading McLean. But I'm saying I think

603
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks could have a conversation, or maybe they did

604
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: already and they asked for tongue and sprote something like that,

605
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: do you make that?

606
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: I would do that, but but we can't even we

607
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: can't even talk about this. They decided to have a

608
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: salary swap and they went defensively. They went defense defense

609
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: at second base. So to me, you just can't. It's

610
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: like when if anybody ever does fantasy football drafts, it's

611
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: like the guy who's like, oh, I'm gonna have you know,

612
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: three running backs and it's like, whoa, well, we don't

613
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: have a flex on this. How are you gonna run?

614
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: How are you gonna get all three of the top

615
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: running backs in there? Like? You know what I mean?

616
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember the jumbo package with the Brewers. I

617
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: mean they just threw anybody on the infield in any position.

618
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: You you were part of that. I was there for that,

619
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: right you saw They're like Kesten here, Mike Mustakis, Jonathan Scope, like,

620
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: you guys can play anywhere in the infield. I know

621
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: you can't, but you can. And they were shifting back

622
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: then that's probably what you're going to say. This is

623
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: a different ballgame. But wait one more point here. Pete

624
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Alonzo was criticized by the team internally metrics wise for

625
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: his defense. Warriet Polanco has been. I would say maybe

626
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: a tick below average defender on the infields. Who says

627
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: he's going to be a stud at first base, I

628
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: mean he's never played it before. He might be fine,

629
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: but he's never played it before. Like, it's not like

630
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: you're replacing Pete with a defensive whiz.

631
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: You're not. You are not getting above average output defensively

632
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: at first base. If Jorge Polancos in his first year,

633
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: it is too intricate of a position. I've probably if

634
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I've said it once, I've said it ten times on

635
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: the show. First base is a hard position to get

636
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: elite defensive value out of. Just because you move a

637
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: athletic Jorge Polonco, you move in athletic Jake cronin Worth.

638
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: The first base like to learn it and to beat

639
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: elite at it, which is what they're asking somebody to

640
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: come in and fill in for Pete. Defensively, it's hard

641
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: to do. You don't just do it just because you

642
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: can get a first base bit. Doesn't mean everybody can

643
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: play it.

644
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get to the second Leger.

645
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.

646
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Speaker 3: I understand, but Marcus Simon has had two down years

647
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: in a row. Okay, so you go out and you

648
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: trade him for Nimo, who's one of your best offensive players.

649
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: Love him or hate him, he's one of their best

650
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: offensive players. So he leaves me scratching my head. Then

651
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: you go out and you lose Edwin Diaz. Then you

652
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: go out and you lose Pete Alonzo, and you replace

653
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: him with the Jorge Bolonco again, who's a nice player.

654
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Not great defensively, had a bad twenty four.

655
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Speaker 3: Really, honestly, the reason people know his name is because

656
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: of what he did in the postseason, right, so why

657
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: go get him? And yes, you can stick him at

658
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: first base, But what was the whole thing that Nimo said?

659
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: The reason he got let go was un prevention? Right,

660
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: run prevention. Jorge Polonco doesn't help your run prevention. He

661
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: helps your run production. So this it's like again, it's

662
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: like David Stearns. We love him to death, but and

663
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Mets fans are kind of like, I don't know, but

664
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Speaker 3: what's he doing? What's his plan here other than just

665
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: like I have to panic.

666
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: And sign somebody I think offensively, Je Polonga. The only

667
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: thing I would go against you, Aja is Hoye Blanco

668
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: had a really good offensive year. I think he had

669
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: his best ever ops plus one thirty two. You compare

670
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: him to other guys offensively, he was more than just

671
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: what he did in the playoffs. But exactly what you

672
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: said is spot on. What are we doing? Are we

673
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: getting Marcus Simeon even though his his offense is down,

674
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: but his defense is there, and he's he's gonna be

675
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: an upgrade over McNeil over what you know. Okay, now

676
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: we're getting Jorge Polanco because there's a defensive upgrade. It'll

677
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how all of this plays out

678
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: and all of it blends out. Because I watched the

679
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: thing about, you know, simulating the Mets season right now,

680
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: a lot of not prognosticators, but analysts and analytical data

681
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: says the Mets are still going to be good with

682
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: the current roster without making this was before they have

683
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Jorge Polanco there. And I'm interested to see what happens

684
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: if they build a team analytically and based on like

685
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: theoretical numbers. I don't know, I'm I'm not buying it yet.

686
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way, all.

687
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Speaker 1: Right, here we go. Okay, Kratz, you and me speed

688
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: round tons of moves from the weekend. Okay, are you

689
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: ready game face on? I think so okay, And if

690
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: there are questions as we go, you need to ask

691
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: them fast, because then I will move on to the

692
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: next move. But we'll start with one that's pretty big

693
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: on the money trail, two years, forty million dollars. Merril

694
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Speaker 1: Kelly ken Rosenthal reported that he had an offer for

695
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: three years fifty plus from a West Coast team. He heard,

696
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: but he did the math and said it's probably a

697
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: team in California. Merril wanted to go back to Arizona.

698
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: He was vocal about that. If they were able to

699
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: find a way to get him in a range that

700
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Speaker 1: he was good with, plus can mention this cost of living, taxes,

701
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: whatever you start to do the math, Arizona was the fit.

702
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: Merril Kelly helps a rotation that desperately needed to replenish

703
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: itself with someone who just was traded away.

704
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you can't. You can't not like this signing.

705
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: I think Merril Kelly and the Diamondbacks, especially towards the

706
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: end of his career. I love the fact that he

707
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: will most likely finish his career here. I love the

708
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 2: fact that he doesn't need to go somewhere else to prove, hey,

709
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: this is what I did in Arizona, and I felt

710
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: like he made a few tweaks in the last I

711
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: would say three quarters of this past season that I

712
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: think kind of took him to the next level when

713
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: at his age people will kind of say, eh, you

714
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: know what, he's probably gonna decline a little bit. I

715
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: love the fact that he revamped his career, came back

716
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: over here after pitching in Japan, and has had success

717
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: with the Diamondbacks. And I think this two year deal, well,

718
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't a slam dunk because clearly he had big

719
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: offers from elsewhere. I felt like it was pretty much

720
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: like this is the guy. If you were gonna say

721
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Zach Gallen or Merril Kelly coming back, I felt like

722
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: Meryl Kelly was by far a better chance of coming back.

723
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Speaker 2: And I think the Diamonbacks are still a good team

724
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: even when you hear could tell Marte could be traded,

725
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: and if he is traded, I think they still fill

726
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: in with a Jordan Laller. So I love that they

727
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: still solidified. Your thirty two starts a year and twenty

728
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: million a year for a starter that's qualified easy money.

729
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't throw hard right. I mean he's the

730
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: low nineties with the fastball below. He actually gets a

731
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: lot of chase for what he brings to the table.

732
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's unpredictable, and I think the world saw

733
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Speaker 1: what he was about in the World Series or just

734
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Speaker 1: in the playoff run for them, I should say three.

735
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: And he's really carried the success, right. I mean, he

736
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: ain't young, but he still got it and he was

737
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: actually throwing a little harder I think halfway through the

738
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: year and carried that out. But he had a great year.

739
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Speaker 1: I mean, he hits his spots.

740
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: The chase is. The chase is the part that I

741
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: think has increased for him because he throws that little

742
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy that goes, you know, ninety

743
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: two cut, ninety two sinc ninety two cut. Now he's

744
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: been able to get that extra tick with velocity. But

745
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: now you don't know if that extra spin is going

746
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: to be that cutter or if it's gonna you know,

747
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: something is gonna break farther off. And that's where he

748
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: gets that chase because you know you're not getting stuff

749
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: middle middle from him. You know, it's edges, and then

750
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: he expands off those edges. He does a great job

751
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: of tunneling without it being ninety nine hammer off of that,

752
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: he's he's really come into his own what you expect

753
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: veteran pictures to do. And I think it's Yeah. I

754
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: like the signing for diamondbacks.

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Speaker 1: Next up, the Detroit Tigers added Kyle Finningan the other

778
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: day and now not added. They brought him back right

779
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: They traded for him at the deadline. He was pretty

780
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: good for them up the splitter usage. We talked about

781
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: that the other day. Now add Kenley Jansen to the

782
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: mix in his chase for five hundred career saves and

783
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: also to be part of a team that should be

784
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt. One year, eleven million bucks club

785
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: option for twenty twenty seven. I actually was surprised about

786
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: the club option part, just because it's ken Lee and

787
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: I think he does want to end up back on

788
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: the West Coast and he's looking for the best deal

789
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: in the best situation right now. But they actually can

790
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: get him for two years. If he puts together what

791
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: he did this past season, they'll probably keep him.

792
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not getting Kenley of the you know,

793
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: twenty tens, but you are getting ken Lee the closer

794
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: and that role is solidified. Kenlly Json wants to get

795
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: to his five hundred that's what you said, right, five

796
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: hundred saves. Yes, four to seventy six right now, he

797
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: wants to get there twenty four saves after having twenty

798
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: nine last year. Like, he knows he needs to be

799
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: on the team that wins, and I think he knows

800
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: that the Tigers can win. He's going to strike out

801
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: about one per inning, so you like that number. Obviously,

802
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: the Tigers do need more strikeouts. But when you have

803
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: a solidified closer, somebody who's going to be in the

804
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: closer role, it pushes everybody back a little bit. And

805
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: I think it helps because you have a for the

806
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: most part, a pretty young bullpen. Now Tommy Kinley's gone,

807
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: Kyle Finnigan's not that young, but you know you brought

808
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: him back because you love the doubling of his splitter usage,

809
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: which they did coming over from Washington. To me, this

810
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: helps any of those young guys because they're going to

811
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: have to continue to call on guys from their minor

812
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: league system and guys that are currently in that bullpen

813
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: because they can't they haven't been able to dip in

814
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: the water. This is a I like the signing. He

815
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: closes the game for you. There's there's very few actual

816
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: closers still out there. There's guys who take the high

817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: leverage innings. But this is a closer and he's gonna

818
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: want that situation. A two five nine e er. I

819
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: like it. I'm I'm I'm on board with this. I'm

820
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: on board with this for this team, and I think

821
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: you'll have a little bit more success too. Larger field,

822
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: the defense is there for them, so it's there for

823
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: him because he's not just one hundred strikeouts in sixty

824
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: innings type of pitcher anymore.

825
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you know, ERA is not the best

826
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: stat for not reliever all the time, but too and

827
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Speaker 1: a half era ERA A plus was one sixty five.

828
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Like the run prevention from him, results were great. Yeah,

829
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: there's he's not Kay Kenley anymore. He's command ken Ley.

830
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, he's cut the walks down

831
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: and the strikeout to go down, but he's finding other

832
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: ways to get out. That's what you do, and that's

833
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: how you mature as a pitcher and stay in the league.

834
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: He's closer Kenley. I don't know that he's necessarily command Kenley,

835
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: he's closer Kenley and e R A plus for closers,

836
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: you have to you have to. You have to take

837
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: that as a There's very few metrics that are good

838
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: for closers because e RA. You can have a four

839
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: e R and have a ridiculous season because of because

840
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: of a couple of blow up games your e R plus.

841
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: There's some dudes, there's some closers that have had like

842
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: three hundred e R pluses. It's not as equal as

843
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: it is to starting pitchers. But the biggest thing, because

844
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: the save is an actual thing, the ninth inning is

845
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: actually different than every other inning, regardless of what analytics

846
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: says to me. That's where the value is. And you

847
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: know he's searching for a goal. He wants that five hundred.

848
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: I think it's something that you're you've solidified a position.

849
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: It's kind of like getting position players. Oh, this guy

850
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: plays short third, left field, He's going to bounce around

851
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: to all three. It's like, well, what did you really

852
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: did you really upgrade or is this like an upgrade

853
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: to the bench. It's like a bullpen guy. Kyle Finnigan,

854
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 2: good closer, gets a lot of saves now he gets

855
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: to bump back to the eighth inning, seventh inning, depending

856
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: on where they're at in the lineup, and they get

857
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: those good matchups because you have a solidified ninth inning guy.

858
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: Next reliever that goes Look at the money for Tyler Rogers.

859
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: Three years, thirty seven million bucks, no deferrals. The Blue

860
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: Jays signed him. There's also a vesting option in there

861
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: that can make this a four year, forty eight million

862
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: dollar deal. It looks like they had the highest offer

863
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: and they had the ultimate chip. They were like, we

864
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: named the ballpark after you years ago in anticipation of

865
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: this recruitment, and they won him.

866
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. I like that. You

867
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: made you made me lol, you made me laugh out loud.

868
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: I was actually there when Tyler Rogers got to be

869
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: in the big leage twenty nineteen. I was with the

870
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: Giants in their exhibition games at the end. I wasn't

871
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: there in spring training and he didn't make the team.

872
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: They were like, this guy has killed it in the

873
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: minor leagues. Something people don't realize about Tyler Rodgers is

874
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: he killed the minor leagues for years and didn't make

875
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: it up until he was twenty eight years old, and

876
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: Bruce Bochi was like, oh, this guy, he's got a

877
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: he really should make the team. And he was fortunate

878
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: he was able to make his big league debut that year.

879
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: And it's something that he has found a niche between

880
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: staying healthy and being very unique. His velocity is not

881
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: going down, and teams that use him and his unique

882
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: delivery to its fullest shows why he's getting a three

883
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: year deal. Think about other relievers that have gotten three

884
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: year deals. And he goes to the Blue Jays now,

885
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: which I don't know if we have the graphic or not,

886
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: but you go Trey Ya Savage, who throws the highest

887
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: release point seven foot one or seven foot two in baseball,

888
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: to Tyler Rodgers, who throws the lowest release point in baseball.

889
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Well there we go, Yeah, perfect.

890
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: That's good.

891
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

892
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: The arm angle difference is they also picked up that

893
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: guy Chase Lee over the weekend from the Tigers who's

894
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: pitched a little bit and kind of a late bloomer

895
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: twenty seven year old side armor. So clearly they're into

896
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: different arm angles right now.

897
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Kratz, that's don't give hitters the same look twice. If

898
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: you go Trey you Savage to Tyler Rodgers to Jeff Hoffman,

899
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: like you're getting so many different looks, don't make your

900
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 2: team all exactly the same because big leg hitters, even

901
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: crappy two nine negative war hitters like me, can make

902
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: an adjustment if you see the exact same thing over

903
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: and over again. And the Blue Jays definitely are building

904
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: that look in their bullpen and their rotation, and I

905
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: think there is there is so many huge benefits to that.

906
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: But analytically that might not always show up. But players

907
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: will say, crap I was just getting in a groove

908
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: facing this guy, and now we're seeing something from down there.

909
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: We're seeing something from the left side coming to three quarters.

910
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: You know it's it is something, and a raise kind

911
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: of started it before getting all hands of the clock

912
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: with a pitcher. It's just tougher and tougher for hitters

913
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: to consistently square things up in a great American League

914
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: East and the Blue Jays keep pouncing while the while

915
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: the iron's hot here.

916
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they love what just happened in October and they

917
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: want a lot more of it, and they're getting aggressive,

918
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: and you got to appreciate that they're investing it right

919
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: back into the team. Canada is just loving their offseason

920
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: so far, and I think there's a lot more to go.

921
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: A right, let's try and do four moves in four minutes. Ready.

922
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Danny Jansen up next, fourteen and a half million dollars

923
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: two year contract. Texas Rangers. Let Jonahan go, they replace

924
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: him right here. Also some smaller moves here as you

925
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: can see from Ken Alexis Diez who used to be

926
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: really good as a closer for the Reds, and then

927
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: lefty reliever Tyler Alexander. But here's your replacement. Danny Jansen.

928
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Super solid.

929
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: Love that he got a two year deal. He's kind

930
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: of been on the fringe kind of guy, and his

931
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: ability to learn some new things receiving wise, when he

932
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: went over to Milwaukee was kind of a role player.

933
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: He'll get more burn the combo of him and Higgy.

934
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: Texas is still valuing that receiving and they're still valuing

935
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: what Danny Janssen can do and what Higgy can do.

936
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: And I think it'll be you know, probably round an

937
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: eighty eighty game split, so essentially spending about fourteen million,

938
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: thirteen million at the catching position, which if you look

939
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: at other teams, they're going to spend that on a

940
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: starting catcher. So good for the Rangers, and I think

941
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: it's a it's a good spot for him.

942
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Next up Dustin May Sweeper City going to Saint Louis

943
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: him Blueom making a move here to acquire someone that,

944
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: if things work out, is a trade ship for you

945
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: at the deadline.

946
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Get him to stay in the strike zone,

947
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: get him to harness all the things after a full

948
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: off season of health, because he's kind of gone through

949
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: not just not just baseball health, but like physical health,

950
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 2: like life things that he has found out that now

951
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: he's getting back out on the mound last year. Can

952
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: you have a full, healthy offseason. The sky's the limit

953
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: for a dude that throws that much variation on that sweeper, sweeper,

954
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: slider and then the running sinker. I don't even call

955
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: a sinker the runner in it's just so hard to

956
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: keep him in the zone. Can they figure out how

957
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: to keep him in the zone. How can that catching core,

958
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: the pitching coaches, the organization keep him in the zone

959
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 2: for fifteen games and at a trade deadline that would

960
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: be a massive piece because then he can he can

961
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: make a huge contract in the offseason, which you thought

962
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: he would have years ago when he first broke into

963
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: the big leagues and you were like, whoa, this dude

964
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: is electric.

965
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were like, this kid has it, but maybe

966
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: a lower pressure environment to just kind of do his

967
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: thing and just rack up starts. I don't know, maybe

968
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,959
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a difference, but yeah, health, that's true.

969
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, twenty five appearance of twenty three starts

970
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: this past season. The ra was about five. But we'll see.

971
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, for a while. Now you prove health,

972
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Now you get better still young, Yeah, Okay, I like it.

973
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Josh Bell one year, seven million bucks, Minnesota Twins classic

974
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: Twins move. This also further solidifies they're probably not trading

975
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: their big boys. They're just going to do these little

976
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: baby ads. And you know, Josh Bell's got pop piece. Fine,

977
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: you know it's there. It's actually getting up there now.

978
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Like we used to talk about Josh Bell back in

979
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: that one first half you had where where everyone was like,

980
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: is this dude about to be an MVP? And you

981
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: know he's been a okay first basement.

982
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you know JB. I was there when he

983
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: made his major debut with the with the Pirates and

984
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: they brought him up just for like a weekend, and

985
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: he absolutely killed the Cubbies. Thought we were getting back

986
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: in the race, and we were still like ten and

987
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: a half games behind the Cubs. I think that two sixteen,

988
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: So that year ended up pretty well for the Cubs,

989
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: but it was He's somebody that is always tinkering with

990
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: his swing. He's always saying, oh, it's just not good enough.

991
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: And as a switch hitter, that's tough. You hope that

992
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: the Twins, who have done a good job with some

993
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: of their hitters, can help him and keep to it.

994
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: But you know what, you're getting your solid veteran presence

995
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: there at first base. And yeah, kind of like what

996
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: we said about Dustin may Oh, maybe a trade chip.

997
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: I think he would have been a trade chip this

998
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: year at the first base position had he not gotten

999
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: off to such a slow start. But he's always going

1000
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: to put together good at bats and it's always going

1001
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: to be a different looking swing. This dude works so

1002
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: hard at it, and when you change you're swing that much,

1003
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: you always have a chance to have this like three

1004
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: month run where this dude's just unconscious because he hits

1005
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: from both sides of the plate. He never has a

1006
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 2: bad matchup.

1007
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: M not a good defender, so maybe more DH time

1008
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: too with Minnesota, and they certainly have a spot there.

1009
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean below average defender, right, but above average fat

1010
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: this past season. So fine, that's where the Twins are

1011
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: going to play ball this offseason. And then lastly, I

1012
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: think we got to everything here from major league signings

1013
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: over the weekend of med Rosario bringing himself back to

1014
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: the Yankees one year, two and a half million bucks,

1015
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: and they had talked about how they wanted to have

1016
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: this kind of platoon option, and clearly they had a

1017
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: little taste and they're like, cool, we like this. We

1018
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: like the versatility brings, we like what we can do

1019
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: off the bench, and he can spell Ryan McMahon against

1020
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: left handed pitching.

1021
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: I like his energy. I'm not going to talk anything

1022
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: about physical on the field. I like what he brings

1023
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: and some people might get pissed off about it, but

1024
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: sometimes the Yankees, just like everyone just gets in line.

1025
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm at Rosario brings a little bit like he's on

1026
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: the bench, he's not playing. That day, somebody hits a

1027
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: big home run, he comes out of the end of

1028
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 2: the dugout, walks across in front some people are like, oh,

1029
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: it's too much. For me, it's too I love what

1030
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: he brings to this team, and he also is He's

1031
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: still a decent player when he plays his role, when

1032
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: he's putting his role. But to me, I love that energy,

1033
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: I love that smile, and I love the fact that

1034
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: he's ready to go at any time to get that

1035
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: big at bat against the lefty for this team.

1036
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: Crats, you're the star right now. So bet M jam

1037
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: is all about you today. Me Yeah, I love that

1038
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: good bet MGM futures. The tour continues that Phillies are

1039
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: ten to one odds to win the World Series, not

1040
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: to represent the National League, although either way that's probably

1041
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest hurdle for them. They couldn't

1042
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: take down the Dodgers. But that's pretty good value for Philly.

1043
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: This is this is one of my favorite values right

1044
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: now for the World Series because maybe maybe I'm a

1045
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: sucker for the double digit ten to one. If it

1046
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 2: was nine to one, I might say, I don't know.

1047
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: People are like, oh, it's only one hundred dollars, But

1048
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: to me, I like the ten to one. I like

1049
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: it because when the season starts, I think the Braves

1050
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: could get off to a hot start. I think the

1051
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: Phillies will be keeping with them, or they'll be a

1052
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: little bit ahead. That number is only going to go down.

1053
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: They're going to make another signing unless they miss out

1054
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: on JT. Real Muto, and they don't, you know, they

1055
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 2: don't get rid of Costianos's contract. Even if those things

1056
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: don't happen, they're still gonna be a good team. I

1057
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 2: don't see this going to eleven or twelve to one,

1058
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: So I love it at ten to one, I really do.

1059
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: And I don't see it moving very much because I

1060
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: don't see them getting an Alex Bragman. I don't see

1061
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: them getting a Kyle Tucker or Cody Bellinger. I just

1062
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: see this as being where they're going to be. And

1063
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: I think that the second best currently today, the second

1064
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: best team in the National League, and the National League's

1065
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: gonna win the World Series, so well why not. I

1066
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: think the Dodgers are coming out at like plus three

1067
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: point fifty. That might even be a little bit high,

1068
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: it might be lower than yeah, And so to me,

1069
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: I love that I'm getting seven to one on top

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Speaker 2: of what the Dodgers are getting, and they could have

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Speaker 2: they could have beaten them. They didn't, and that's the

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Speaker 2: beauty of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were by far the second best team

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Speaker 1: in the National league, and they just happened to run

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Edwind Diaz in Spanish the other day said, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be incredible when the trumpets sound in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be special. Think about it. He's bringing

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Speaker 1: that whole act out to LA. They're gonna love it.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. Have you seen that live? I mean the

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Speaker 1: closer entrances in general. If you've there's what probably three

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Speaker 1: to five that feel like their signature at this point,

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Speaker 1: you've got durantl out in Philly now coming over from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I know many of them have it, but there's a

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Speaker 1: few that stand out. This one is. This one is

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Speaker 1: up there. You want to have a mister Mett. You

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Speaker 1: want to have a Dodger, you know. I guess somebody

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Speaker 1: will be dancing, or the whole ballpark will be dancing.

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Speaker 1: But usually they have a whole act with like four

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Speaker 1: mascots over in Queens.

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Speaker 2: Don't need it, don't meet it in LA. And I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why. Number one sound system in the entire game.

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Speaker 2: If there is some bass in Timmy trumpets, that system

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Speaker 2: will be rocking and that stadium. I don't care what

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Speaker 2: the fans situation is, if they're caught in traffic or not.

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Speaker 2: It is a game changer. I don't know why other

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Speaker 2: stadiums don't have the sound system. Maybe there's like regulations

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Speaker 2: or something. But yes, I love that he said this

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Speaker 2: in Trumpetos Incredibles. The incredible Trumpets is going to be

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Speaker 2: banging in LA.

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Speaker 1: And actually we just found out. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Ken that put it out there. He's got a conditional

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Speaker 1: option on his contract too. If you missed this certain

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Speaker 1: amount of time they get one more year in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty nine for six and a half million bucks. That

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Speaker 1: that all came out today too, so we got all

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Speaker 1: the news in from a ridiculously busy weekend. You'll see

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Speaker 1: Trevor May, Jason Kidneys, Kevin Palan arcastic characters joining us

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Speaker 1: throughout the week here as the co host with Rats

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Speaker 1: and McNee. But right now, I actually think you guys

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Speaker 1: should check out Doctor Territory because Katie Woo's on there.

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Speaker 1: She's an insider nationally and she's of course now covering

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Speaker 1: the doctors on daily basis. So we'll flip you right

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Speaker 1: over there and we'll see tomorrow