Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode three seventy. This episode,
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Speaker 1: We almost had. I text Demanse midway through Sunday football
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Speaker 1: the Chargers rallied and then the Lions were never a
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Speaker 1: a little note that is relevant probably more to the
Speaker 1: Blue Duck and Volume crew than it is. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to hold back a sneeze than it is to Demanse,
Speaker 1: but to not tomorrow Friday bucket list might be strong
Speaker 1: but close to bucket list event for me as and
Speaker 1: maybe I said this on Tuesday, and I'll remember going
Speaker 1: to the Writer Cup, the Rider Cup held every two years,
Speaker 1: every only every four years? Is it in the US.
Speaker 1: It's the US against great Britain or the US against Europe.
Speaker 1: Pardon me, it's either in Great Britain or the US
Speaker 1: Golf tournament being held at Bethpage Black and Me, Danny
Speaker 1: and Hubbs whole. First things, First, crew going out there,
Speaker 1: so I can't that'll be that'll be all time see
Speaker 1: Rory se Scheffler and in what will be a really
Speaker 1: raucous crowd. Now here's a thing before we get to
Speaker 1: the show, which is a little tricky, okay, Tomansey. So
Speaker 1: first of all, it's on Long Island. The Ryder Cup
Speaker 1: is very patriotic typically you know when it's in it
Speaker 1: When it's in Europe, the crowd is rooting for the
Speaker 1: Europeans when it's here, like people are wearing flags and stuff.
Speaker 1: That the Long Island golf patriotic crowd is not the
Speaker 1: patriotic part about it, But the Long Island golf crowd,
Speaker 1: it's not really my crowd to begin with. You then
Speaker 1: add to it, I might have with our friends at
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Speaker 1: so so so I might I might be out there.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have to at least be appearing
Speaker 1: to root for the home side. But I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: a financial interest in Europe potentially winning. It could create
Speaker 1: some awkward spots for me out there, but I'm very
Speaker 1: very excited to go. So I'm doing that. And the
Speaker 1: other thing. Saturday. Saturday one of the best college football
Speaker 1: slates in years, and so we'll touch on that at
Speaker 1: some point a bit today. But you have obviously Georgia Bama,
Speaker 1: you have Penn State, Oregon. You have just great games
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Speaker 1: Zion looking great, saying he hasn't felt this great since college.
Speaker 1: He looked awesome. Man. I hope he can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I still I have not sold all my Zion stock.
Speaker 1: I like when he came into the league, I said
Speaker 1: he had MVP potential, and to me, he kind of
Speaker 1: immediately showed it those first couple of years when he played.
Speaker 1: He just obviously couldn't stay healthy. As when he'll stay
Speaker 1: in shape. Jason Tatum, he hasn't ruled out playing this season.
Speaker 1: I will be rooting for him to do it. I
Speaker 1: think that would be a very tough putt, but I
Speaker 1: thought he did a really good job talking about yesterday
Speaker 1: about how vulnerable he felt, how sad he was, and
Speaker 1: you know, being open about that. So I was happy
Speaker 1: he'd be ready for that, right, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he the Achilles is typically not a nine month injury.
Speaker 1: It's a true twelve month injury. And twelve months obviously
Speaker 1: would be like round two of the playoffs. And would
Speaker 1: you want his first action to be in the playoff cauldron?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Listen, I am. I'm rooting for all
Speaker 1: these guys to get back early, but I so I'm
Speaker 1: not going to put a ceiling on what he can do.
Speaker 1: And I know that he has been rehabbing his ass off.
Speaker 1: It seems it seems ambitious. But yeah, but listen, I'll
Speaker 1: root for him. And then tonight Arizona Seattle in a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game that I listen. I know both these
Speaker 1: teams have good records, both these teams are two and one.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to actually have this be the only game
Speaker 1: on because it will give me an opportunity to probably
Speaker 1: watch these teams closer than I've watched them up to
Speaker 1: this point. I know that I said a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago that that Thursday night game could be you know,
Speaker 1: a date night Thursday night. I've decided I'm gonna because
Speaker 1: they're both at this point, relevant teams get an opportunity
Speaker 1: to watch them. So like rate subscriber review to the
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Speaker 1: And now we get to the early season game of
Speaker 1: the year this Baltimore has been involved. There have been
Speaker 1: three games of the year so far, Bill's Ravens to
Speaker 1: open the season, Chiefs Eagles in week two, and now
Speaker 1: Bill's Ravens week four. I'm sorry, Chiefs Ravens week four.
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs or the Ravens have been involved in
Speaker 1: all three of the biggest games of the year. Let's
Speaker 1: get right to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so your Chiefs of my Ravens face off this weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're both looking at one and three starts between the two.
Speaker 2: Who do you think has more on the line?
Speaker 1: I listen, I saw Orlovsky this morning, say it's clearly
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I know that the Chiefs are the team
Speaker 1: that people have been far more panicked about than Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I think people have this flatly wrong. It is to me,
Speaker 1: unquestionably Baltimore that has more on the line, and it
Speaker 1: is for two very distinct reasons that apply to Baltimore
Speaker 1: in a way they don't apply to Kansas City. The
Speaker 1: first one is this, if we believe these even though
Speaker 1: one of these teams is going to be one in three,
Speaker 1: that both of these teams still bill have Super Bowl aspirations,
Speaker 1: and that Baltimore certainly still has Super Bowl aspirations, they
Speaker 1: have to win this game for two reasons that are
Speaker 1: related to each other. One is, maybe by winning this game,
Speaker 1: you won't have to go through Kansas City in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And by winning this game, if you do have to
Speaker 1: play Kansas City in the playoffs, you have some reason
Speaker 1: to believe you can beat them. Lamar and the Ravens
Speaker 1: have lost five of the six games they've played against
Speaker 1: Patrick and the Chiefs. They have lost four in a row.
Speaker 1: They have lost in Baltimore, they have lost in Kansas City. Lamar,
Speaker 1: who has the highest passer rating in the history of
Speaker 1: the NFL, has an eighty passer rating against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Lamar has not played a singularly great game against Kansas
Speaker 1: City except for one time. The one time they won,
Speaker 1: and I think that was thirty six thirty five after
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire fumble and then Baltimore went for a
Speaker 1: fourth down smartly late nice the game. There is a
Speaker 1: massive psychological edge the Chiefs have over the Ravens, and
Speaker 1: even if the Ravens win this game, they are not
Speaker 1: going to have a psychological edge on Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: so like if the Ravens win, the Chiefs are not
Speaker 1: going to if they were to play in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: go into that game thinking we can't beat this team.
Speaker 1: But if the Chiefs win, how can Baltimore credibly think
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs don't simply have their number? And so
Speaker 1: I also think that the Ravens upcoming if they fall
Speaker 1: to one in three, a team that oddly to me,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it a lot Tuesday, felt tight
Speaker 1: and anxious in their game against Detroit. Their next two
Speaker 1: games home for the Texans with a great defense but
Speaker 1: a terrible offense, and then home for the Rams. That's
Speaker 1: concerning the Chiefs. Meanwhile, the game after this is Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Now you can say Jacksonville is better than Houston, and
Speaker 1: I know they're two and one, Houston's zero and three,
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville just beat Houston. It still feels to me
Speaker 1: like Houston has a higher upside potentially than Jacksonville. So I, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was about to saying, right, correct, Then no,
Speaker 1: then they have the Lions. But I also think because
Speaker 1: after the Lions, the Chiefs get Rashi Rice back, that
Speaker 1: there is a level of okay, Like let's say they
Speaker 1: lose to Baltimore and lose the Alliance and they're and
Speaker 1: they beat Jacksonville and they're two and four. Getting Rashi
Speaker 1: Rice back, I still feel like the team psychologically will
Speaker 1: feel like, all right, yeah, now we're finally whole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's just we're not gonna have home field, We're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna win the division. Let's just see if we
Speaker 1: can get in and be scary. I and that is
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons that I just listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna panic about either of it for a few weeks. Yeah, well, correct,
Speaker 1: Like I just unless you are going to go as
Speaker 1: far as to say Kansas City, I fear is going
Speaker 1: to miss the postseason. I don't think anybody actually believes
Speaker 1: they're not a terrifying team once the postseason begins. Even
Speaker 1: if they get there by going ten and seven, they
Speaker 1: got there by going eleven and six two years ago
Speaker 1: and won the Super Bowl, going to Buffalo, going to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: And so I just I also think there is a
Speaker 1: level of in the commentariat offensive bias that is showing
Speaker 1: up in the way we talk about Buffalo. I'm sorry Baltimore.
Speaker 1: In Kansas City, Kansas City's offense has been its biggest concern.
Speaker 1: Kansas City's offense kind of across the board is mid
Speaker 1: their average, they're thirteenth in this seventeenth and that fourteenth
Speaker 1: and this fifteenth and that they're just average, and that
Speaker 1: has caused massive concern. Baltimore's defense has been its problem,
Speaker 1: and they're awful in everything and that so the side
Speaker 1: of the ball Kansas City is struggling on. They're struggling
Speaker 1: to the tune of being average. The side of the
Speaker 1: ball Baltimore is struggling on. They're struggling to the tune
Speaker 1: of being horrible. And there is go ahead.
Speaker 2: With that said about Baltimore's defense, If Kansas City still
Speaker 2: if the offense still struggles.
Speaker 1: Then what Yeah, that even with well Worthy's coming back too,
Speaker 1: so the so that's a good question. If they win
Speaker 1: a low scoring game, I do, then that is great.
Speaker 1: You know what, I like if they win, if they
Speaker 1: win the score the way they beat Baltimore in the
Speaker 1: AFC Title Game seventeen to ten, then I and the
Speaker 1: offense doesn't cook, but they win, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: do not care if they don't, you know so, because
Speaker 1: I also but now if they let me eat, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say a bunch here if they lose. If Baltimore
Speaker 1: scores a ton and the Chiefs just can't keep up
Speaker 1: and they lose twenty eight thirteen something like that, that'll
Speaker 1: be concerning about what the Chiefs offense actually is and
Speaker 1: how much just getting Rashi Rice back will fix it.
Speaker 1: I also have and I don't know if statistically this
Speaker 1: has been proven or even it can be backed up
Speaker 1: or anything, but it feels to me like very often
Speaker 1: games take on a personality, and like one of the
Speaker 1: reasons Cowboys Giants was high flying the way it was
Speaker 1: was the off one team's offense, but get another team's offense.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Like it was that that game
Speaker 1: led to the personality. Almost of that game was quick drives,
Speaker 1: deep bombs, You score, I score, you score, I score.
Speaker 1: The very next week, that same Giants offense played a
Speaker 1: Chiefs team that was stuck in the mud, long drives,
Speaker 1: no explosives, and they didn't have any. So I so
Speaker 1: that's the same Giants offense right now. The Chiefs defense
Speaker 1: is obviously better than the Cowboys defense, but not thirty
Speaker 1: five points better, you wouldn't think. And yet that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's what we got in that game. And so my
Speaker 1: point is this, I think the Ravens offense, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is going to be a thirty one to
Speaker 1: twenty eight game. I think this is far more likely
Speaker 1: to be a because we the Eagles can be high
Speaker 1: flying and high scoring, the Chargers can be high scoring.
Speaker 1: Both teams have played the Chiefs and the game has
Speaker 1: kind of taken on the personality of the current Chiefs,
Speaker 1: which is these long drives, fight for yards. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that's just because of the Chiefs defense. I
Speaker 1: think that. Again, I can't prove it, and maybe what
Speaker 1: I'm saying right now sounds weird, but I just think
Speaker 1: sometimes games take on, like I said, a personality almost
Speaker 1: and there is somehow a butterfly effect of one team's
Speaker 1: offense hitting deep shots leading to another team's offense hitting
Speaker 1: deep shots. It's just from my exp because here's the
Speaker 1: other thing that's really weird about kind of consuming football
Speaker 1: and how we feel watching it. So you would agree
Speaker 1: Tomanse that that Chiefs Giants game, the Chiefs offense looked
Speaker 1: hard to watch and stagnant. Yeah, right, that it was
Speaker 1: a bad offensive game and they finished with twenty It
Speaker 1: would have been twenty three, but twenty two points because
Speaker 1: they missed the extra point. You would agree, So the
Speaker 1: Chiefs in that game scored twenty two. You would agree
Speaker 1: that Ravens Lions. The Ravens offense was moving the ball
Speaker 1: seemingly at will, and the problem in that game wasn't
Speaker 1: the offense. Yeah, And you would have felt that way
Speaker 1: even if they didn't get that garbage time touchdown. You know,
Speaker 1: when they were down fourteen. The Ravens going into garbage
Speaker 1: time of that game had twenty four points, and it
Speaker 1: felt like the offense was doing whatever it wanted. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs fought and clawed an ugly football, scored twenty two points,
Speaker 1: and it felt like the offense could do nothing. So again,
Speaker 1: I'm not what I'm kind of almost talking about like
Speaker 1: ideas here Giants. No, I agree, but the Giants defense
Speaker 1: is supposed to be decent and the and we don't
Speaker 1: look at the Lions as a great defense. And so
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is sometimes you can score twenty
Speaker 1: four points and it can look it can feel like
Speaker 1: your offense was humming, and you can score twenty three
Speaker 1: points and it can feel like your offense couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: And so I just feel like we are going to
Speaker 1: get a slugfest in Kansas City where every yard is
Speaker 1: going to be, you know, hard to get. Because and
Speaker 1: here's the other reason. I don't think Baltimore's past defense
Speaker 1: is as bad as the numbers suggest. I think their
Speaker 1: run defense is horrible, truly horrible. And I just don't
Speaker 1: know if the Chiefs have the personnel to take full
Speaker 1: advantage of a horrible run defense like that. That was
Speaker 1: the story of Ravens Lions was the run defense. And
Speaker 1: so I if there was ever gonna be a time
Speaker 1: for Pacheco to look like Pacheco from a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, this would be this game. I just don't
Speaker 1: know if they had it, I don't know, but I.
Speaker 2: Would you say, I do go ahead, Who do you
Speaker 2: think on your team needs to step up the most
Speaker 2: in this game?
Speaker 1: I think this is what have I said about Travis.
Speaker 1: They's got five or six great games left in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this would be a good time for one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's had a rough start to the season. He
Speaker 1: has owned this matchup. Getting Worthy back should open things
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the field a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And Tae Kwan Thornton all of a sudden you have
Speaker 1: to take him seriously, at least as a deep threat.
Speaker 1: And so I this would be a nice Travis Kelsey game.
Speaker 1: I am I believe. Listen, I think Kansas.
Speaker 2: City is that's a crazy question, but.
Speaker 1: Badly. Yes, absolutely, And now listen, I'm gonna be holding
Speaker 1: my breath on the Worthy stuff because we're only a
Speaker 1: few weeks removed from that shoulder dislocation, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: the further down the road we get, the stronger that
Speaker 1: shoulder gets. So I don't think Worthy is gonna be
Speaker 1: like super featured in the game plan, but I think
Speaker 1: just having him out there should help quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Uh no surprise here. One of my picks on the
Speaker 1: gambling show is gonna be the Chiefs plus the points
Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna win. Uh Demons and I
Speaker 1: will make We're gonna figure out some type of wager
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Speaker 1: night football. All right, MICHAEH.
Speaker 2: Parsons is returning to Dallas to face to face Dallas.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. He said it's gonna be very difficult to
Speaker 2: sack that Dak Prescott Greenway.
Speaker 1: Hold on, He didn't say it was gonna be difficult,
Speaker 1: like hard to do people like emotionally difficult. Hard.
Speaker 2: Green Bay's offense get it, gets a chance to rebound
Speaker 2: on that crummy Dallas defense. Jesus Christ, who has a
Speaker 2: bigger statement to make. Jordan Love in the offense or
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons in the defense, I would say.
Speaker 1: Yes, no question about it. I listen, Jordan Love. Brew
Speaker 1: picked Jordan Love and he wasn't the only one to
Speaker 1: win League MVP this year. I think Jordan Love having
Speaker 1: that mindset would be terrible for the Packers. He does
Speaker 1: not have to be great, He has to be steady
Speaker 1: in a weird way, even though they're incredibly different players
Speaker 1: and it's for incredibly different reasons. Jordan Loved to me
Speaker 1: is in the same boat as Jared Goff. Now, Golf
Speaker 1: is in the boat as far as responsibility to the team,
Speaker 1: and the responsibility is make the plays that are there,
Speaker 1: don't make big mistakes. And for Golf, they are an
Speaker 1: offensive first team and that's his responsibility. But it's because
Speaker 1: they have so many dynamic weapons, right, So he just
Speaker 1: don't be the reason you lose. Green Bay doesn't have
Speaker 1: nearly the weapons Detroit has. What they have though, is
Speaker 1: a dominant defense and an opportunistic defense. And what Love
Speaker 1: simply can't do is what he did last week that
Speaker 1: that interception to the the best offensive play of the
Speaker 1: year thus far, was Justin Herbert's touchdown pass last weekend,
Speaker 1: shaking off the rusher, stepping up in the pockets, slinging
Speaker 1: it almost side armed on a dime. The worst offensive
Speaker 1: play of the year this season was Jordan Love's interception
Speaker 1: to the Facto. Lose that Browns game, and if the
Speaker 1: Packers end up in a shootout, then then we can
Speaker 1: take the training wheels off a bit. But they're not
Speaker 1: in a They thus far have not been in shootouts. Now.
Speaker 1: Our producer Daniel, who is a Packer fan, says two
Speaker 1: has had fifty worst plays. I disagree. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the day. It was the only way for Green Bay
Speaker 1: to lose that game, So I'm not listen. Cam Ward's
Speaker 1: had some brutal plays, obviously, there have been some in
Speaker 1: a vacuum plays that looked worse or you know, than
Speaker 1: the Jordan Love play. What I'm saying is snatching a
Speaker 1: victory out of the jaw, No, snatching a defeat out
Speaker 1: of the jaws of victory for a team that had
Speaker 1: no business losing that game. That Jordan Love play is
Speaker 1: my first draft pick of it, and I think against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, you're gonna have plenty of layups that
Speaker 1: can be big plays. And I do think Micah is
Speaker 1: gonna have his damn hair on fire. And I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys with no CD lamb and I think with
Speaker 1: Tyler Booker or their first round pick out, this game
Speaker 1: could be ugly. Now, the Cowboys have enough offensive firepower
Speaker 1: that I don't think I'm gonna lay the seven points
Speaker 1: on the road with Green Bay. But I do think
Speaker 1: that it is far more likely the Packers blow out
Speaker 1: the Cowboys than it is the Cowboys win again. I
Speaker 1: demon's I don't give you teaser coaching, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: you right now, if I were doing a teaser this weekend,
Speaker 1: teasing green Bay down to a pick them is like
Speaker 1: a must have leg. I just think there is what
Speaker 1: you have the other way on it.
Speaker 2: Uh no, no, no, no, I've got something on it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that au.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's just going against all your rules. It
Speaker 2: shocks me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what's my rules? What do you mean? Zero? Well,
Speaker 1: I I also would do you like eight? But you
Speaker 1: like eight point teasers. I'm just saying the old traditional
Speaker 1: six point teaser the getting Yes, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: the I think of teasers in six point denominations. Uh,
Speaker 1: So what if if I were doing a six point
Speaker 1: teaser this weekend, having green Bay down to either minus
Speaker 1: a half point or minus one would be a must
Speaker 1: have because I just do not see a path for
Speaker 1: Dallas to win this game. And I think this is
Speaker 1: here's my Jerry Jones take. I think the reason Micah
Speaker 1: is not getting a tribute video is because Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is embarrassed. And I think Jerry Jerry loves a spectacle.
Speaker 1: Jerry loves a show. Jerry loves more, you know, an event,
Speaker 1: and I think that under normal circumstances, he would announce
Speaker 1: We're gonna do something special for Micah Parsons. I think
Speaker 1: Jerry does not want to see the Cowboys fans in
Speaker 1: Jerry World stand and applaud Micah Parsons, and that's why
Speaker 1: he's not getting it. And so standing ovations. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely they do. But this is and so listen. I
Speaker 1: love the Packers this week, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: get right spot and I think they will get right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think Michael will have a big game. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might. Now Micah might have a big game
Speaker 1: by virtue of creating pressure for other people to clean
Speaker 1: up on the sacks or getting double teamed. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: might be like, Mike is just not going to be
Speaker 1: the one who beats us, So be it buying Micah's
Speaker 1: impact will be felt heavily on this game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to another huge game this weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your guy Baker takes on Philly this weekend and
Speaker 2: the last couple that well, the Bucks are very banged up.
Speaker 2: By the way, the last couple of times they've faced Philly,
Speaker 2: they have they've beaten them. And what version of the
Speaker 2: Philly offense do you think they we're gonna get well.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting. The Eagles are on this seventeen
Speaker 1: game winning streak when Jalen starts and finishes games that
Speaker 1: game started. The last time they lost, I should say,
Speaker 1: was against Tampa. Tampa did beat them in the playoffs soundly.
Speaker 1: I think Jalen's like one in four in his career
Speaker 1: against Tampa and an unbelievable record against everybody else. I
Speaker 1: am worried about Tampa this weekend because the injuries are crazy,
Speaker 1: and it is cluster offensive line injuries, which is the
Speaker 1: cluster injuries are one thing. Cluster offensive line injuries are disastrous.
Speaker 1: So Tristan Wurf's still you know, they're still trying to
Speaker 1: get him back. They've got two other offensive linemen on
Speaker 1: the ir so you're potentially down three offensive linemen. Mike
Speaker 1: Evans is not going to play. You worry Levonte David.
Speaker 1: It popped up on the injury report it and by
Speaker 1: the way, Baker was limited in practice this week. Now
Speaker 1: the Eagles are dealing with injuries of their own. But
Speaker 1: it's not on the offensive line. I know Lane Johnson
Speaker 1: suffered the stinger on everyone's favorite play, the Early Bird,
Speaker 1: but the Bucks might be too banged up in this spot,
Speaker 1: and it is to me a really concerning injury spot
Speaker 1: for Tampa. Because of that Demonse, I think that the
Speaker 1: Eagles should open it up offensively. I just don't think
Speaker 1: now the injuries for Tampa, to be clearer, are Tampa's
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. It's not that I'm saying
Speaker 1: the injuries are going to make the Tampa defense susceptible.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I think Philly has a bit
Speaker 1: of a margin of error here to play with. And
Speaker 1: I also think with Saquon not playing great and he
Speaker 1: just hasn't yet, maybe he will, but he is a
Speaker 1: lot of carries. Last year, with aj Brown clearly wanting
Speaker 1: you to open it up, with the game play in
Speaker 1: last week being so disastrous that you found yourself in
Speaker 1: that massive hole, and with jail and taking care of
Speaker 1: the football, there just isn't a big argument in my opinion,
Speaker 1: to not have an aggressive downfield passing game plan to
Speaker 1: just see how it works, because if they show that
Speaker 1: early in games, I believe it will lead to Saquon
Speaker 1: popping again. I think right now, teams early in games
Speaker 1: are so convinced that Philly is just gonna run, run, run,
Speaker 1: that they are able to stack the box against Saquon,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons he's not having the
Speaker 1: success that he has had previously. And so I think
Speaker 1: that there is a real opportunity for Philadelphia here to
Speaker 1: put really scary stuff on tape for upcoming opponents of
Speaker 1: a pass heavy early game script that could pay real
Speaker 1: dividend down the year, down the road, even if they
Speaker 1: want to lean more on Saquon, you know, in higher
Speaker 1: leverage spots. I understand this is a huge game because
Speaker 1: both these teams are undefeated. They're both, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: legitimate Super Bowl contenders. But Philly cannot go into this
Speaker 1: game with the game plan they had last week. You
Speaker 1: just can't. You have not been since Becton's gone, you
Speaker 1: haven't been as dominant of a run blocking team. Lane
Speaker 1: Johnson's a little banged up, Your receivers are a little frustrated.
Speaker 1: Your quarterbacks seemed, you know, frustrated during the game about
Speaker 1: the game plan, like open it up. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Jalen's going to turn the ball over a bunch. Now.
Speaker 1: Maybe listen, maybe it doesn't work and you go back
Speaker 1: to you know, you're in a rough spot early in
Speaker 1: the game, but you were in a rough spot last
Speaker 1: week against a really good RAM team and came all
Speaker 1: the way back. Like I just I think Philly has
Speaker 1: to lean on jail in a little bit more this
Speaker 1: week and see how it plays out, like.
Speaker 2: All the margin for air and stuff. If Baker were
Speaker 2: to go out and win the game, would you make
Speaker 2: him your MVP favorite?
Speaker 1: Listen, I think he's got a legitimate MVP case right now.
Speaker 1: The media is focused far more heavily on Herbert and Josh,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but the three last second victories by
Speaker 1: Baker have put him in the mix. And if you remember,
Speaker 1: you know my prediction that the Bucks get the one seed.
Speaker 1: Winning this game would put them in such a great
Speaker 1: spot to potentially be the one seed if they can
Speaker 1: steal this victory against Philly, because as I said when
Speaker 1: I picked them to be the one seed, I just
Speaker 1: want to remind everyone this is how Tampa ends the year.
Speaker 1: Final What is this? Five games? Cardinals, Saints Falcons? No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Final six games Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, Panthers, Dolphins, Panthers.
Speaker 1: So if they get to four and oh, right, and
Speaker 1: then they can just go four and three in the
Speaker 1: tough part of their schedule, which you know starts here.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying if they get to it, because they
Speaker 1: then at Seahawks home for the Niners, at the Lions,
Speaker 1: at the Saints, home for the Patriots, at the Bills,
Speaker 1: at the Rams. If they get to four and oh,
Speaker 1: they have a very real chance of being eight and three,
Speaker 1: or call it even seven and four through those eleven games,
Speaker 1: and then you rip off six straight to end the year.
Speaker 1: You're a thirteen to fourteen win team. If you win
Speaker 1: this game, and you have the tiebreaker with Philly, you
Speaker 1: probably don't even need. If you win this game, you
Speaker 1: might be able to be the one seed with twelve wins,
Speaker 1: because if Philly ends with twelve, you get the one seed.
Speaker 1: So this would be an unbelievable stolen win for Tampa
Speaker 1: given how injured they are. But I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be. This is a really really rough spot for them,
Speaker 1: and I think Philly is the right side in this game.
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Speaker 2: So they are not letting russcook anymore. In New York,
Speaker 2: it's Jackson Dart time. They put him in a kind
Speaker 2: of a weird time. This could be a blessing or
Speaker 2: a curse. They are playing the Chargers and they have
Speaker 2: a top ranked defense. How do you see things going
Speaker 2: for Jackson Dart in the Chiants.
Speaker 1: I think they might get a temporary shot in the arm.
Speaker 1: I'm not right. Listen, They're in New York. I think
Speaker 1: that defense is good. I am I'm getting having the
Speaker 1: Giants maybe a bigger chance than I should at making
Speaker 1: this a real game and then seeing what Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: can do. When Daniel Jones took over, you know, not
Speaker 1: a few years ago, but half decade ago. His first game,
Speaker 1: I think it was against Tampa. He comes in, plays, well,
Speaker 1: they steal a win. They're feeling good now. That team
Speaker 1: didn't end up being very good, but like in that moment,
Speaker 1: because I do think they were out on Russ. I
Speaker 1: I am not as big on the Jackson dart aura
Speaker 1: as other people are, but people seem to really like him.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll, you know, we'll see. Guy strikes me
Speaker 1: is a little bit of like a frat bro. But
Speaker 1: whatever with the I am open. I liked him evidently
Speaker 1: that that chain isn't a chain, it's his sister's necklace
Speaker 1: that he yeah, yeah, so like he borrowed it from her,
Speaker 1: wore it now he wears it for good luck. I
Speaker 1: don't have that full story. I think it's been reported
Speaker 1: out elsewhere, but they seem very excited about him. To me,
Speaker 1: the bigger story is about Russ. Is his career over?
Speaker 1: And is he a Hall of Famer? And my answer
Speaker 1: to those questions are yes, his career is over, and no,
Speaker 1: he's not a Hall of Famer. And it is stunning
Speaker 1: how quickly this ended for him. It doesn't feel stunning
Speaker 1: because it feels like he's been bad for years now,
Speaker 1: which he has been, but Russell Wilson forced his way
Speaker 1: out of Seattle. The Broncos gave up a king's ransom
Speaker 1: for him and then paid him early a huge deal,
Speaker 1: and he immediately was terrible. And it was it was
Speaker 1: not that long ago that people thought the Broncos were
Speaker 1: going to be a real threat because they got Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: It was September of twenty twenty two that they gave
Speaker 1: up multiple first round picks, gave him a huge deal,
Speaker 1: and then he and Nat Hackett lost that opening game
Speaker 1: to Geno and the Seahawks, and it's just been a
Speaker 1: disaster for him ever since. And I understand he has
Speaker 1: a good career winning percentage, and I understand that he
Speaker 1: has you know, nine Pro Bowls ten no, ten Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls because he oddly made the Pro Bowl last year.
Speaker 1: And listen, he was a really really good player in Seattle.
Speaker 1: But in during his career, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Big Ben Patrick, Josh Lamar, we're all Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks. During his career, Philip Rivers was in
Speaker 1: my opinion, better than Russ. I don't know that Rivers
Speaker 1: is getting in Eli. I don't know that. I think
Speaker 1: Eli was better than Russ, but Eli has the two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls versus one, and Eli I don't think is
Speaker 1: getting in, at least not anytime soon. He didn't have
Speaker 1: as high of a peak as Cam Newton or Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: who are not getting in. And the longevity part is
Speaker 1: not there for him. He had nine good to excellent
Speaker 1: years and that's it. And for a quarterback you need more.
Speaker 1: There was. It's hard to find more than one year
Speaker 1: where he was a consensus top five quarterback. It's impossible
Speaker 1: to find one year where he was a consensus top
Speaker 1: three quarterback. And so I just don't think he's a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
Speaker 1: And if Malcolm Butler doesn't pick that ball off, and
Speaker 1: he has the greatest start to a career in the
Speaker 1: history of the league. A Year one takes team to
Speaker 1: Divisional round of the playoffs. Year two wins the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl over Peyton Manning. Year three wins the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: over Tom Brady. But Malcolm Butler did pick that ball off.
Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is the best teams
Speaker 1: he was on good teams that he was the centerpiece of.
Speaker 1: He was on great teams that he was the caretaker of.
Speaker 1: And I just don't think he's a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1: And I don't know at this point, Demons, I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: are the Bengals gonna call and try to get him?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Like, I don't know where he goes, and.
Speaker 2: As a starter is just a backup right we're talking back.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about the Bengals as a starter right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: like with Burrow out like, but the Broncos traded for him,
Speaker 1: they were done with him after a year and a half.
Speaker 1: The Steelers signed him, they were done with him after
Speaker 1: a half year starting. The Giants signed him, they were
Speaker 1: done with him after three games starting. I just think
Speaker 1: it's over and it's a pretty crummy ending. And so
Speaker 1: I don't but like, to me, he's not a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame player. He's a really good player with a
Speaker 1: really good career, but not a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 1: And it sure seemed like the Giants could not wait
Speaker 1: to move on from him as far as the Giants'
Speaker 1: thought process here, I Danny's been making this point, and
Speaker 1: I think he's right. If Jackson Dart's ready now. He
Speaker 1: was probably ready in week one, and if he wasn't
Speaker 1: ready in week one, he's probably not ready now. But
Speaker 1: I think that Brian Dable doesn't want to be deal
Speaker 1: with empty met life seats and booze if he wants
Speaker 1: to have a chance of keeping that job, and so
Speaker 1: putting Dart out there is getting at least the New
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Speaker 1: let's go to Colts Texans quickly, and also if there
Speaker 1: are some questions in the chat, we can do those
Speaker 1: as well. Here in a minute, my.
Speaker 2: Guy Daniel Jones and the Colts are going to face
Speaker 2: off the Rams. They are three and ohero but people
Speaker 2: will probably call this the real first test for them,
Speaker 2: and the Rams are coming off the double block field goals.
Speaker 2: How will we be talking how will we be talking
Speaker 2: about these teams differently come Monday?
Speaker 1: Oh listen, I think the Rams will be three and
Speaker 1: one and the Colts will be three and one. I listen,
Speaker 1: I've got to give Remember how during our preseason gambling show,
Speaker 1: I U I said that every year there's been a
Speaker 1: team that I tie in a bunch of stuff and
Speaker 1: it ruins my profitability. That two years ago it was Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I believed in them when they ruined me. Last year
Speaker 1: it was Pittsburgh. I didn't believe in them, and it
Speaker 1: ruined me. I am staring down the barrel of needing
Speaker 1: to like sweep the board in everything non cult related
Speaker 1: because I made a bunch of bets that they were
Speaker 1: going I didn't remember you were going to be I
Speaker 1: thought they I said they had a chance to be
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league. They're three and up.
Speaker 1: This is my biggest up to this point, this is
Speaker 1: my biggest width of the of the preseason. There's still
Speaker 1: time and to your point, they have beaten two of
Speaker 1: the worst teams in football and a last second field
Speaker 1: goal to beat the Broncos. But still they've now got
Speaker 1: a bit of a cushion. And the rest of the
Speaker 1: AFC South, with the Texans being a mess, the Jags
Speaker 1: being not as good as their two and one record is,
Speaker 1: and the Titans having one of the worst coaches I've
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Speaker 1: the points there LSU plus one and a half at
Speaker 1: Ole Miss. I don't have a feeling on I love
Speaker 1: Oregon getting three and a half at Penn State. I
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Speaker 1: football weekend. I'll be sweating those bets from the Ryder Cup. Also,
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Speaker 1: that is coming out Friday morning with our five picks.
Speaker 1: All right, the demonse, let's ask some of these listener questions.
Speaker 2: Uh, platonic zombie, ask, if Dallas wins, will we be
Speaker 2: having a real discussion about how bad Love actually is?
Speaker 1: Dallas, No, listen, I don't think Jordan Love's bad. And
Speaker 1: if Dallas wins, the discussion the only way for Dallas.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if Jordan Love can't move the ball,
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys defense. Then there are some real concerns.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's bad. All right. Let's in fact,
Speaker 1: I know he's not bad. The question is can he
Speaker 1: be great? And does he think he has to be great.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has to be great. I think
Speaker 1: he has to be solid. All right, Let's go to Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Mitchell says, hey, Nick, Seattle fan here, you think cal
Speaker 2: will win the MVP for the Mariners.
Speaker 1: Can you guys throw in the al MVP odds into
Speaker 1: the doc. I've said that. I think, even though Judge
Speaker 1: had been a huge favorite that I thought if the
Speaker 1: Mariners made the playoffs, cal Raley with his sixty home runs,
Speaker 1: was gonna get it. I think he's gonna get it,
Speaker 1: and he has a chance of beating Aaron Judge's AL
Speaker 1: home run record. The Mariners are going to make the playoffs, well,
Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs. They have made the
Speaker 1: playoffs already. Pardon me, they clinched. I think cal Raley
Speaker 1: can win it. I know Judge has been unbelievable and
Speaker 1: was a huge favorite as of a few weeks ago.
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Speaker 1: is asks if I have any bets on the Ryder
Speaker 1: Cup if people miss the top of the show, because
Speaker 1: it does start tomorrow. I'm going Saturday, and I bet
Speaker 1: on Europe. So let me be in America, the very
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