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Speaker 2: We have a lot to cover over the next couple hours.

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Speaker 2: Big focus, obviously free agency in the NFL. Wednesdays, the

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Speaker 2: day when teams got to get the money under the cap,

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Speaker 2: and then we unleash the fury that is free agency.

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Speaker 1: Carrie.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you back on this show because

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Speaker 2: the last time you and I did a show together

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Speaker 2: was the day before the Conference Championship games when you

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Speaker 2: assured me, when you assured me that your Louisville brother,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, because I said, my concern about Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: this game is that he's going to try to out

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Speaker 2: do Patrick Mahomes. You did say that, yeah, and you

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Speaker 2: assured me he was ready for this, and he threw

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Speaker 2: what thirty eight passes in a one score game, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what he did. The play calling was horrific,

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Speaker 2: that part, I mean, absolutely horrific. But since we started there,

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Speaker 2: we didn't really finish. I mean, I know it's ancient history.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs have been crowned Super Bowl champions again, but

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Speaker 2: you must have been your head must have been spinning

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Speaker 2: watching that game, like what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: It was negligence, is what it was from the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can look at Lamar's game and say

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Speaker 3: you played a bad game if you want, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go back with that back and forth

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Speaker 3: with that. That's just what it is. The game plan

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Speaker 3: was terrible. They panicked as a coaching staff. The thing

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Speaker 3: about that game what you just said, it was a

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Speaker 3: one score game. They didn't have to deviate from their

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Speaker 3: game plan of running the ball and being balanced, which

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Speaker 3: got them to that point all year at all, and

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Speaker 3: they just went into this four or five wide spread

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Speaker 3: terrible I really call it negligence. It was a bad

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you. I just we were watching

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Speaker 2: the game the next day, rich Ornberger and I and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on here because we specifically

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Speaker 2: said the Lamar Jackson cannot go into this game thinking

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Speaker 2: I'm going to out Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes right, they

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Speaker 2: have different games, completely different games, and yet they fell

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Speaker 2: into that trap. Well, part of what we do right

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Speaker 2: now is we get ready for free agency again. Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 2: our NFL insider is going to be joining us here

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Speaker 2: coming up in about fifteen minutes. Got a lot of

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Speaker 2: ground to cover with him coming off the combine and

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Speaker 2: getting ready for free agency. But over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 2: I've been sitting here Kerry saying, if you really wanted

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Speaker 2: to find a franchise quarterback, there is one in the

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Speaker 2: league right now and his name is Patrick Mahomes. And

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Speaker 2: I say that because the question is what is your

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Speaker 2: standard in terms of a franchise quarterback, And I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: the standard is winning championships. And outside of Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: the only two active starting quarterbacks that have won championships.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not including Russell Wilson because right now he

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Speaker 2: it's been a long time, and that's it. So when

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Speaker 2: we talk about Lamar Jackson, a Dak Prescott and Josh

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Speaker 2: all these great young quarterbacks, until you've actually done it,

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Speaker 2: until you've actually won a championship. By my definition, if

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Speaker 2: in defining a franchise quarterback, there's one. His name is

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. And with what he did this year to

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Speaker 2: Game again, the distance between him and the rest of

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Speaker 3: I'll agree with you on that last point. The distance

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Speaker 3: but he's the difference maker. Franchise quarterbacks. There are more,

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Speaker 3: certain teams that are going to have that goal. A

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Speaker 3: there are multiple franchise guys, but Patrick Mahomes, the distance

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Speaker 2: Well, I was faced this for many years in San

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Speaker 2: And he put up amazing numbers, stayed healthy, was out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I'm like, when you're talking about Hall

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the difference. And so Josh Allen or

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Speaker 2: And the only way they can break through and they

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Speaker 3: What made it worse was the Chiefs Chris Jones saying

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Speaker 3: But on top of that, for another opponent of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, so here we are, and we're going

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Speaker 2: Carrie for players right now, all this uncertainty about teams

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. There's a lot of money. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: wish I wish I was a little bit later. I

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Speaker 2: was gonna say, yes, your rookie season was what year?

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Speaker 3: Don't say that.

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Speaker 2: So in a comproposition that you were then as an

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I just with the tireing Matthew

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Speaker 2: Right for two years? H I mean, well you were

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Speaker 3: Making I was making up there what I'm saying he's

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been making that.

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's I I'm really happy for the players,

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Speaker 2: Of the One of the hard things in being a

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Speaker 2: And I've seen time and time again players just disappear.

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Speaker 3: Great point and it's And I've been seeing recently a

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Speaker 3: this person because of what you're saying. Now, if they

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm Patrick Mahomes is the same way. I mean,

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Speaker 3: combine and who improved their stock the most of the combine.

433
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Speaker 4: Panics threw the ball, carry really really well. Michael Pennix.

434
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Speaker 4: The issues they are two issues with him, age and

435
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Speaker 4: injury history. Some teams will not look at him in

436
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Speaker 4: the first round because they're worried, you know about the

437
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Speaker 4: injury history. But the kid really for us the football,

438
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Speaker 4: he could spin it. Senior bos saw some good things.

439
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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of you know what you're willing

440
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Speaker 4: to accept. There's a saying it's scouting. The deeper you

441
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Speaker 4: go to certain positions, the more words show up. It's

442
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Speaker 4: just what are you willing to accept. It's a position

443
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Speaker 4: where everybody needs one, Well you don't have one, you're

444
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Speaker 4: looking for one. Six will go in the top forty.

445
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Speaker 4: Penix is going to go in the top forty. I

446
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Speaker 4: don't worry about that. Then then it's the next group.

447
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Speaker 4: Spencer Ratler, who had a good senior ball. Michael Pratt

448
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Speaker 4: is one of my favorite quarterbacks for the draft would

449
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Speaker 4: be an extra. Then Joe Joe Millen's got the best

450
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Speaker 4: arm for the draft. But yeah, he's a big guy.

451
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Speaker 4: He's got major accuracy concerns. I saw the Citsustina Bowl.

452
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Speaker 4: Guys through that. I mean, you never have to worry

453
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Speaker 4: about him throwing the football. It's where the ball is

454
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Speaker 4: going and that that, unfortunate is going to be the issue.

455
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Speaker 2: Where's Chris Jones going to end up?

456
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Speaker 4: They won him? Look that this is the Chiefs won him.

457
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Speaker 4: They figured, okay, we can get away with not franchising him.

458
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Speaker 4: They're working on it, guys. That's what I could tell you.

459
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Speaker 4: I know Chris Jones had the tweet or on ax

460
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Speaker 4: about with the sand of the hourglass ticking. They won

461
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Speaker 4: him back, folks. It's I'd be very surprised if if

462
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Speaker 4: he's not a Chiefs the season.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that, all right, And what's going

464
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Speaker 2: to be the fate of Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: as free agents.

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Speaker 4: Darrik Henry's not resigning that. That's like, I'd be shocked.

467
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Speaker 4: He doesn't look they if they could have found a

468
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Speaker 4: trade partner, if they could have gotten this done, it's

469
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Speaker 4: the trade deadline, they would have moved him. Barkley. Philly's

470
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Speaker 4: got some passing interest. The Giants will have some interest

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Speaker 4: in bringing them back. There are two or three other

472
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Speaker 4: teams that are in on them. It's the money. Remember

473
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Speaker 4: the money running back is way less than he used

474
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Speaker 4: to be when Kerry's playing. In fact, it's going five percentage.

475
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Speaker 4: It's going way down. By the way, Barkley did not

476
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Speaker 4: have a very good season. I was told that wasn't

477
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Speaker 4: taken a contact like you should have. Did not have

478
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Speaker 4: a good season. Like, if you're signing him, I wonder

479
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Speaker 4: what you're basing it on. I know he's talented. It

480
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Speaker 4: wasn't about injuries last season. It was more about production,

481
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Speaker 4: and his yards per carry went way down. The Giants,

482
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Speaker 4: by the way, they don't even know, they don't know

483
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Speaker 4: who they're started with being. In fact, they don't even

484
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Speaker 4: have a backup right now. If Barkley leaves.

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Speaker 2: Would you take Josh Jacobs over either one of them.

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Speaker 2: He's still only twenty six, right.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the best guy by far. It's not even close.

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Speaker 4: He's a three down back. The Raiders really want him back.

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Speaker 4: Talking to them, they want to be a run based

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Speaker 4: offense that wants to start with a run. They don't

491
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Speaker 4: want the quarterback to be a major factor this year.

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Speaker 4: They just want to start with the and play good defense.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they like to have him back. We'll see

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Speaker 4: where that goes.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's all going to get started on Wednesday,

496
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Speaker 2: gotta get those cap numbers. Well, Monday, actually they do

497
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Speaker 2: the early conversation, all right, that kind of stuff. You

498
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Speaker 2: know what do they call that?

499
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Speaker 4: Somewhere? We're looking for the open and open negotiat Pier.

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Speaker 4: By the way, No, we'll have twenty to thirty agreements

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Speaker 4: by midnight Eastern on Monday night.

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Speaker 2: You watch Wow, which means that when we talk to

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Speaker 2: you next week, we're gonna have a lot more to talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, oh yeah, Adam, great stuff, man, I

505
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Speaker 2: know it's going to be a very busy week for you.

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Speaker 2: We always appreciate the time. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, Thank Adam Kaplan Our Fox Sports radio NFL insider.

508
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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now,

509
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: and Martin is back in the hot seat. You know what?

510
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: And then Martin, you're all excited about free agency.

511
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Speaker 6: I can't wait. I gotta carry. I gotta come out.

512
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Speaker 6: I gotta come clean with you, bro.

513
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Speaker 2: What's up?

514
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Speaker 4: Man?

515
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Speaker 6: So Steve, you know Carrie famously borrows headphones. Right, He's

516
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 6: come in and use the studio loaners all the time,

517
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Speaker 6: right right right. I looked at him and I was like,

518
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Speaker 6: you know, what are you doing? You know you hear

519
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Speaker 6: every so often, at least once a week.

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Speaker 7: You're here.

521
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: He's like, you're a radio host.

522
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 6: Now it's time to get some headphones, right, bring your

523
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 6: own headphones to work.

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Speaker 2: You did say that I gave them to you. Analogy.

525
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Speaker 6: I said, you're a former football player, right, He's like,

526
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Speaker 6: of course, I have said, well, you were playing for

527
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Speaker 6: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: You know.

529
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Speaker 6: Did you borrow a helmet when yours didn't work? No,

530
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Speaker 6: you had you got you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Got your own helmet. The equipment manager came up with

532
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Speaker 2: another Terry.

533
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 6: Roads size helmet just for you. You don't have to borrow,

534
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 6: you know, Carson Palmers or whoever's right. It was free, Martin,

535
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Speaker 6: it was free. And this is a guy who this

536
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 6: is back when football players was getting plaid playing defense, and.

537
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Speaker 2: Now you still can't afford to As someone myself who

538
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Speaker 2: has had more headphones than I can count over many,

539
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Speaker 2: many years, I'm using studio ones, right, yeah, this is

540
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Speaker 2: the studio. And because when you're investing, if you're using

541
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Speaker 2: them a lot, you know, like literally, like you know, forever,

542
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Speaker 2: seven days a week. Sure they're gonna wear you know,

543
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Speaker 2: and you start taping them up and everything to hold

544
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Speaker 2: them together. I don't know, I've tried every one of them. Guys.

545
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: We get paid to do this.

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Speaker 6: You know that, right, Like you can take some of

547
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: that money and go down the Best Buy and go

548
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 6: get you some nice headphones. But anyway, the reason I

549
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Speaker 6: even told this story is called I forgot mine at

550
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Speaker 6: exactly for.

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Speaker 3: It always it always ends up being that way, right.

552
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: I forgot about it all.

553
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 6: I've recent to my backpack and I was like, oh man,

554
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Speaker 6: I can't believe I forgot the number one weapon I need.

555
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Speaker 2: It's a successful We're gonna hold them accountable. And now

556
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: you're making me think, all right, finely, I'm gonna get.

557
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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about and it happens today. I come in,

558
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Speaker 3: which is beautiful.

559
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Speaker 6: That's why I had that look. I cannot tell a lie.

560
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 6: I had to come clean with you. Speaking of not

561
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 6: telling lies, let's go ahead, get to the news of

562
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Speaker 6: the day. The Clippers beat the Bulls one o two two,

563
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, one eleven to one oh two. College basketball,

564
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Speaker 6: we had top twenty five wins for Creighton, Alabama, South Carolina,

565
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Speaker 6: and South Florida. Kansas State upset Iowa State sixty five

566
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Speaker 6: to fifty eight, and just wrapped up the fifteenth rank

567
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Speaker 6: Kentucky Wildcats with the big winning Knocksville.

568
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Speaker 2: They knock off the volunteers and elsewhere. And let's see here.

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Speaker 2: Go to the NFL.

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Speaker 6: The Broncos reportedly trading wide receiver Jerry Judy to the

571
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Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns. They'll get a fifth and sixth round pick

572
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Speaker 6: back in this year's draft. Broncos will now clear nearly

573
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Speaker 6: fifty million dollars in cap space over the last five days,

574
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Speaker 6: but they do have Russell Wilson's eighty five million dollar

575
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Speaker 6: dead cap hit coming right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: When exactly that does that happen? I don't know the

577
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Speaker 2: legal tampering period. League year starts.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's all gray area right now, as a

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Speaker 6: free agency starts Monday. As Adam Kaplan was saying the

580
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Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Graham he will not be a free

581
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Speaker 6: agent as he signs a one year extension to continue

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Speaker 6: playing for the Eagles. He said he wanted to play

583
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Speaker 6: fifteen years. Well, this will be year fifteen for Brandon Graham. Elsewhere,

584
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Speaker 6: the Eagles have offered Hassan Reddick the permission to facilitate

585
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Speaker 6: a trade and have been taking trade calls on defensive

586
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: end Josh Swett and per the Athletics, Diyan and Rassini.

587
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 6: Chargers are open to trade offers for Joey Bosa and

588
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Speaker 6: Khalil Mack, but many teams waiting to see if the

589
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 6: veteran pass rushers don't get cut first. So I wonder

590
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Speaker 6: how much they're going to be trading for a guy

591
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: who's probably gonna get cut. Wow, we'll see how that goes. Carrie,

592
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Speaker 6: Steve and whoever's headphones.

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Speaker 2: Those are back to you, guys, Martin, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the high gene level is very high

595
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: in the studio, so I'm not worried about putting it. Oh, actually,

596
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: I am worried about it now that I think about it.

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00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: Think about that, Think about what you just said. Hygene level,

598
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: high gene level. Yeah, you scared me with that one.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: Just think about the people who work here, and then

601
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 6: think about that one again. Yeah, if I want to

602
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 6: clean those years out, get some two tips, Steve.

603
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Should we go?

604
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Speaker 3: Should we go together and get some HiPhones?

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00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, it's been It's been a long time. I

606
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Speaker 2: just I got tired of just busting up headphones and

607
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Speaker 2: everything else. Once again, We're live from the tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. This is Fox Sports Saturday. We've been

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Speaker 2: focusing in on a free agency. Now we sort of

610
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: ran over with Adam Kaplan. Didn't get to everything I wanted.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask him. I'm going to ask you instead.

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00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Kirk Cussins, Yeah, all right, thirty six years old, coming

613
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Speaker 2: off of blown Achilles. Very similar obviously to the Aaron

614
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: Rodgers situation. But he's a free agent and I'm seeing everything.

615
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: I see the Vikings want to keep him, and then

616
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Speaker 2: I see that he's on his way to Atlanta before

617
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: he got hurt. Kirk Cousins passer rating last year, he

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Speaker 2: was sitting at one oh three point eight. Pretty good,

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Speaker 2: pretty good, and he and Justin Jefferson have a pretty

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Speaker 2: good thing going. And you want to make sure, you know,

621
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Speaker 2: arguably the most talented wide receiver in the NFL is

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Speaker 2: comfortable with the person throwing him the football. Yes, if

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Speaker 2: you lose Kirk Cousins. That's why I see one mock

624
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Speaker 2: draft here where the Chargers trade down to pick up

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Speaker 2: extra picks with Minnesota so that Minnesota can take JJ

626
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Speaker 2: McCarthy with the fifth overall pick in the draft, which

627
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Speaker 2: just seems ridiculous. But what do you do with Kirk

628
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Speaker 2: Cousins if you're the Vikings, It's a tough one.

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins has been somebody that's exceeded expectations his whole career.

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Speaker 3: He was a guy that was an afterthought even when

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Speaker 3: he got drafted.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was drafted the same year as RG three,

633
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Speaker 2: in the same draft by the then Redskins, And you're like,

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Speaker 2: why are you drafting a quarterback? If you used in

635
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Speaker 2: one of the top picks in the draft on a QB,

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Speaker 2: why are you using a fourth round pick on a quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Well, that seemed to have been a smart decision now

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Speaker 3: that we look at it in hindsight, right, But he's

639
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Speaker 3: a guy that's gonna be there. Obviously outside of this

640
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: year he got hurt, but steady, he's gonna win you

641
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Speaker 3: a ton of games. You're gonna have a chance as

642
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: a number one receiver, You're gonna get your numbers, and

643
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Speaker 3: so the stability there is something that you definitely want

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Speaker 3: at that position for a team like Atlanta that has

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Speaker 3: a young team that's building something and moving towards, you know,

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Speaker 3: getting better as a team. As a franchise, I don't

647
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Speaker 3: think you take that guy.

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Speaker 2: But when you think about in that division, we just

649
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: saw Baker Mayfield, sure show up off the scrap heap

650
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: and win that division. Yeah you got Derek Carr who

651
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: is there? Yeah? You know what I mean. This is

652
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: why you talk about people say, well, Derek Carr is

653
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback just because you start year after year

654
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: after year after year. In my opinion, and I look,

655
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Speaker 2: I'm a Derek Carr fan back to his friends no days,

656
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, I mean no, he's a guy like

657
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield's a guy. But if you have a healthy

658
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins in that division, because that was very competitive

659
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Speaker 2: with those three teams. Obviously Carolina is an afterthought right now,

660
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Speaker 2: could be the difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'll tell you, after a big injury like

662
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: that at that age, yeah, it's not about coming back

663
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: from that one. That just means that the other little injuries,

664
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Speaker 3: the knicks and nax, they're gonna they're coming along as well.

665
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Speaker 3: And so to invest in him for a couple of

666
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Speaker 3: years and think that he's gonna show up and be

667
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: able to sustain what he did before that injury, it's

668
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Speaker 3: just not for me.

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Speaker 2: It's not feasible. And I've seen it up close and

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Speaker 2: personal self. Well, if you're gonna say that, then this

671
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: whole dream about an Aaron Rodgers comeback is just that, right,

672
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Speaker 2: And he'll be forty Yeah, coming off a blown achilles.

673
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Speaker 3: And he said he wants to play four more is

674
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Speaker 3: what he is. What he's saying, right, He said a

675
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Speaker 3: lot of things. He also said he was eighty percent

676
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Speaker 3: certain he was retiring when he had his retreat in

677
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: his little box, safe place. That's right, and he walked

678
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Speaker 3: out saying eighty percent of it.

679
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Speaker 2: It was the I'm going to retire. The twenty percent

680
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Speaker 2: one out and he ends up with the deal with

681
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Speaker 2: the Jets. Yeah, but I don't think people understand the

682
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Speaker 2: idea of coming off of blown achilles. I know modern

683
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Speaker 2: medicine has done wonders with injuries. I always go back

684
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Speaker 2: to Adrian Peterson with a completely blown out knee coming

685
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Speaker 2: back and having a two thousand yard season winning an

686
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Speaker 2: MVP honors. It seemed impossible because that would have been

687
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: impossible for running back back in the day. But of

688
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: all the injuries, those that have come back as good

689
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Speaker 2: as they were before, a blown achilles is a very.

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Speaker 3: Short list, very short listen just for those guys, for

691
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Speaker 3: those quarterbacks, man, I mean obviously to push off and

692
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Speaker 3: trust that, trust that foot again, trust that whatever that

693
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Speaker 3: achilles is to that side. Man, It's it's going to

694
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: be such a daunting task. And you can see some

695
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Speaker 3: of the guys even now that are coming back from

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Speaker 3: just the acls. Now which seemed kind of academic at

697
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: this point with the advancement of medicine, is a transition,

698
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Speaker 3: transitional period for them to even get comfortable in the pocket.

699
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Speaker 2: So it's going to be pressed.

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Speaker 3: And then you think about a Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers,

701
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Speaker 3: comparing those two the top end of an Aaron Rodgers

702
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Speaker 3: was the top end which Kirk Cousins never met, and

703
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Speaker 3: so bringing that level down talk about the even plan

704
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Speaker 3: field with the Achilles and the injury.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the same and in theory because

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Speaker 3: of the top end talent that each has had. And

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Speaker 3: so but we'll see. I mean, this is it's gonna

709
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Speaker 3: be fun. It's gonna be interesting to see if they can

710
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Speaker 3: bounce back.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got play more to get to as

712
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: far as the NFL and free agency is concerned. I

713
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Speaker 2: want to get to a little different subject on the

714
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Speaker 2: other side with Carrie as we talk about the number

715
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 2: one name in basketball these days and it's not even close.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sport Saturday. You're listening to Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Radio Steve Hartman and Carrie Rhodes. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday coming alive from the tai IRAQ dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna say something here. Uh well, first

720
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Speaker 2: of all, Caitlin Clark just broke another record that doesn't exist.

721
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Speaker 2: So you remember she passed Pete Maravich for most points

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Speaker 2: ever by a Division one player, Like she broke the

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Speaker 2: NCAA record. Yesterday, she broke the NCAA record for most

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Speaker 2: three pointers in a season that was held by Steph

725
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Speaker 2: Curry when he was at Davidson. Wow, here's the problem

726
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Speaker 2: with that. There is no such record. There's no record

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Speaker 2: book that actually lists men's and women's records side by side.

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Speaker 2: There's a women's NCAA record book and there's a men's

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Speaker 2: NCAA record. Why are they separate because they're two different sports, right,

730
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Speaker 2: and yet ESPN, in their desperate attempt to hype up

731
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Speaker 2: and max out as much as they can with Kaitlyn Clark,

732
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: continue to make up stats that do not exist, and

733
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Speaker 2: they do a disservice to Caitlin Clark. Kayln Clark doesn't

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Speaker 2: need comparisons to Pete Maravich or Steph Curry in order

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Speaker 2: to justify how great she has been at Iowa. If anything,

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Speaker 2: it does a disservice. But stop talking about breaking NCAA

737
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Speaker 2: records that actually don't exist because they're actually two different sports. So,

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Speaker 2: Kaitlin Clark did not break Pete Maravich's record, she did

739
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Speaker 2: not break Steph Curry's record. She set the all time

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Speaker 2: women's record in both of the those categories. That is enough.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do a disservice to her by

742
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Speaker 2: making up records that don't exist. There, show me the

743
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Speaker 2: record book. Where is this record book that combines the two.

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00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: There is no such record book. They are two different sports.

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Speaker 2: There's men's basketball, there's women's basketball. She is a record

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Speaker 2: setter on the women's side, and that's good enough.

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Speaker 3: See, that's the first time I've heard that. And that's true.

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Speaker 3: It's very it's very accurate, I think. And that's the

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Speaker 3: I think that's the crazy part with our society, right,

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Speaker 3: It's it's one everything's jumbled up and it has to

751
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: be the same and nobody's different and we're all in

752
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Speaker 3: this thing together. Sports are made differently, and they are

753
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: it is It says men's basketball and women's basketball, they're

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Speaker 3: two different sports and they should have their own records

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Speaker 3: in accolade. So I literally I I the first time

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Speaker 3: I heard this, Steve, and I really I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's a point, that point.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I mean, even it goes back here

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Speaker 2: headline USA Today, by the way, shame on USA Today.

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Speaker 2: A writer by the name of Lindsey Schnell she wrote

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Speaker 2: an article that I don't want to get in the

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Speaker 2: particulars about it. Let's just say that she put down

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's accomplishments because of the color of her skin.

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Speaker 2: What's I mean? Sometimes when you feel like we've made

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Speaker 2: certain advances, there's some people out there that want to

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Speaker 2: remind you that no, in my opinion, we haven't. Again't

767
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: Caitlen Clark cannot control the color of her skin. What

768
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: she can't control is her basketball game, and it's been

769
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: played at an amazingly high level over her four years

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Speaker 2: at the University of Iowa. I can't imagine why a

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Speaker 2: newspaper like this would print something like this.

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Speaker 3: Well, everything has been, everything has been at a point

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Speaker 3: now where, like I said, there's a there's no differentiation,

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00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: differentiation of the men's game, women's game, color create all

775
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: those things are being put into a position right into

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: one pot where the pot the pot has been stirred

777
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: by people that don't really understand the dynamics of these games.

778
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: And there are people that have the right to tell

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Speaker 3: these stories now at a USA Today or at ESPN

780
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Speaker 3: or all these different outlets, and we're giving people power

781
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: that don't really understand the power of just being a

782
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: human being and playing and doing something. So I agree

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Speaker 3: with you on the aspect of what this writing says.

784
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Speaker 3: And it's USA today. We're not going to go into

785
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Speaker 3: this specific, but it's it's it's it's mind boggling. What's

786
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Speaker 3: what's being said, and that's in that article again.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is an amazing basketball player period. That's all

788
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Speaker 2: has to be said. She's entertaining, fun to watch, That's

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Speaker 2: all it needs to be said. Why everyone has to

790
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Speaker 2: spin it in a hundred different directions is beyond me,

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Speaker 2: but I guess they have to justify their existence in

792
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Speaker 2: their own minds. There it is Hi coming up at

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Speaker 2: the other side, we got some NBA news and a

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00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: lot more NFL talk to This is Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. Last night, Carry I was

801
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Speaker 2: watching the Lakers Bucks game. Lebron set this one out

802
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: and the Lakers, you know, battling Golden State right now,

803
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: and who's nine, who's ten? Exactly? Remember, if it does

804
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: come down to that as a nine to ten match up,

805
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: the loser goes home in the playing round. So, and

806
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: the two biggest stars in this league still by leap

807
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: years are Lebron and Steph. They are the two biggest

808
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: stars because they've actually won a lot of championships and

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: they've been great players for a long time. So I'm

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Speaker 2: watching this game last night and d lo man what

811
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Speaker 2: this guy put up forty four points, D'Angelo Russelle, And

812
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Speaker 2: it was a terrific game. I mean, down the stretch,

813
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Speaker 2: both teams hitting shots. I mean, this was the NBA

814
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Speaker 2: at its best, right, I mean, yeah, Dame Lillard had

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Speaker 2: a four point play, Jannis had an incredible you know,

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Speaker 2: last second where he let it go quick and banked

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Speaker 2: it in, and D'Angel Russell is just hitting everything. I

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Speaker 2: mean he is just absolutely so it was. It was

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Speaker 2: one of those games. Lakers got a huge win with

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Speaker 2: that win, forty four points for the e low. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: where I'm watching what I think is the NBA at

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Speaker 2: its best when I see teams not just parked at

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Speaker 2: the three point line casting off threes. Look, if you

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Speaker 2: got a Dame Lillard, you know, yeah, this guy's got

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Speaker 2: unlimited range and everything else. But there was it was

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Speaker 2: a complete game. And games like that get me excited,

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Speaker 2: you know, for the NBA playoffs, which are a month away,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be here soon, and we're gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, get entrenched in the long run. The fact

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Speaker 2: that I know the Celtics have piled up an incredible

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Speaker 2: record this year, but there's a problem for them. They've

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Speaker 2: been in the Eastern Conference finals five of the last

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Speaker 2: seven years and they have zero championships to show for it.

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Speaker 2: This is why I look at someone like Jason Tatum

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Speaker 2: and obviously a great player. I know, you're big duke guy,

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Speaker 2: but I doesn't want anything yet. I mean, Giannis wanted championship,

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Speaker 2: Jokich has a championship. This is you know, and and

838
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Speaker 2: and and then the question is, is Edward's the guy

839
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Speaker 2: that can lead a team to a championship. Shade, Gilgas, Alexander,

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Speaker 2: you know, Luca. I mean, these these are they're they're

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Speaker 2: really great talented players. But this gets back to where

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00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: I talked about franchise quarterbacks. I'm looking at franchise players

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Speaker 2: and you gotta go the whole way in my book

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Speaker 2: before you can enter into that conversation. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: Tatum in the Celtics. Is this their year? Are they

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00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: still vulnerable? I mean this team is again a team

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00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: that camps at that three point line and if they're

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Speaker 2: hitting a hYP percentage, they're unbeatable. What they did at

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00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: Golden State the other day, just you know, fifty point annihilation. Wow,

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00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: then they blew a twenty point lead, yes to Cleveland.

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00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland the next game, yeah, very next game. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Celtics are the team to beat in my in

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00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: my in my estimation. I really, I really, I've watched

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Speaker 2: them a lot because you know, I'm a christophs Porzingis

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00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: fan as well, and so to see them, to see

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Speaker 2: the variants in their offense. They are relying on the

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Speaker 2: three point shot, they shoot a lot of it, but

858
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: I think also they have these different layers to their offense.

859
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Now that they're giving us glimpses of that, come playoff

860
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: time they'll fully exploit. And I think that's the part

861
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: of the season, right You're figuring out who you are.

862
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: You know who you are you're a three point shooting

863
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: team right now.

864
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: But if you watch them enough to see how they

865
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: employ certain strategies throughout the game, you'll see that they

866
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: have variants in the offense and they can't go there.

867
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: And I think the thing with Tatum and this year

868
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 3: and the growth for him and Brown so far this year,

869
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: it's the killer instinct they both have. But the reliance

870
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: on the other guys on their team right now during

871
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: the regular season is going to help them come playoff

872
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: time because those guys are going to have confidence that

873
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 3: if those two Brown and Tatum don't have it, those

874
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: guys can be trusted upon to make the plays in

875
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs as well. So that's kind of where I

876
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: see it.

877
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: But here here's here's here's the separation again all right

878
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: in the game, yep, that you need. This is why

879
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard is in the conversation as a franchise guy.

880
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: You know that miraculous shot he had, what was it

881
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: ence the seventy six steps that bounced, you know, several

882
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: times and went in. That's what you need from your superstars.

883
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: They've got to deliver. Tatum was often a shooting you

884
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: know how they lost that series against Golden State. It

885
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 2: was the difference between a team that's been there and

886
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: knows how to get it done. Because the Celtics were

887
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: a better team than the Golden State. Yes, I mean

888
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson had been out for two years and was

889
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: coming back. He was a fraction of what he was,

890
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: but they knew how to win. This is why when

891
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: we talk about sports in general, there are teams that

892
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: are built for the regular season, and then there are

893
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: teams that built for the playoffs. For the Kansas City

894
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs another prime example, they are now that team just

895
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: like the Patriots were back in the day, where they

896
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: know how to navigate through the postseason. And in the NBA,

897
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 2: whether it was the Warriors, whether it's a Lebron who's

898
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: been to ten NBA finals in his career, I have

899
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: to keep reminding people about just how great he is

900
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: until you actually can figure that out. See I think Denver.

901
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: This is why I look at the West right now

902
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: and I see OKC and I like in Minnesota and

903
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: they got some really intriguing players and they're intriguing rosters.

904
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: But if I were to bank on the two teams

905
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: that would be matched up in the Western Conference, finals

906
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: assuming they are healthy. I'm looking at the Nuggets and

907
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: the Clippers because they got Jokichen and they got Kawhia,

908
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: guys that have been there and done that for sure.

909
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way I'll look at it. So

910
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that Boston can't break through. I'm just

911
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: not convinced that the overall strength of the East is

912
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: where the West is right now.

913
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: It's one hundred not but Boston, They've been there, done that,

914
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: and I think there's a level of Obviously, I think

915
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: doubt is even bigger than belief when it comes to sports.

916
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 3: You talked about Golden State and how they beat Boston

917
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 3: in that game. Is it more because of the belief

918
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: of Golden State or is it the doubt of Boston

919
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: when you see a team that's done it before. And

920
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, and I think doubt is actually

921
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: doubt is bigger for me because I know the teams

922
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: I believe they'renna win, believe they're gonna win regardless. But

923
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: when you play on the level that you know that

924
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: you belong and you've done that for a period of

925
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 3: time where you get to the finals of all places, right,

926
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: you know you can win, but then that little into

927
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: doubt comes in one game where Steph Curry goes ballistic

928
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you're like, can we do this?

929
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing that Boston has to

930
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: get over because other than that, they have all the

931
00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: pieces that win.

932
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: So the Lakers and the Warriors, I mean, we saw

933
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: it last year with the Lakers. There was nothing to

934
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: indicate that the Lakers could get all the way to

935
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals. Now, I think Denver is now

936
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: proven because Denver swept the series this year. The Lakers

937
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: do not match up with at all. I mean, I'm sorry,

938
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: There is just no way, barring some kind of catastrophic

939
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: injury for the Nuggets, that they would lose the best

940
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: of seven series against the Lakers. Right, Well, Lakers just

941
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: can't do it, right. But I mean, it's a lot

942
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: about matchups. But what about the Warriors? And we saw

943
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: them get boat raced by the Celtics the other day

944
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: and yet you know, they seem to be winning more

945
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: games than they're losing as of late. Is there another

946
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: run in this team? Could they emerge? Or do you

947
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: agree with my assessment the two teams to beat in

948
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: the West, are the Nuggets and the Clips.

949
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 3: You have two teams to beat right now, are the

950
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: Nuggets and the and the Clippers think for sure. But

951
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: we've seen it in the past. We've seen young upstarts

952
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 3: have enough to make it to the finals or get

953
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: to the Western Conference finals. And obviously we saw it

954
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: with the Mavericks a couple of years ago. We saw

955
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: it with the young OKC team that had you know,

956
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant and those guys when they're battling Tim Duncan

957
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: and Dirk Novsky and all those guys at that the

958
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: height of the West when it was really it was crazy.

959
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: So teams have gotten through. Again, you said it is

960
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: matchup based, but if we were to, if we were

961
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: betting me in, I don't think either one of us

962
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: are I would I would I would say, uh, I

963
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: would say the Clippers and the Nuggets are definitely the favorites.

964
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 3: But we've just we were saying this about Jokic until

965
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: last year.

966
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that he couldn't get it before that. I mean,

967
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, Jannis wins two m vps and then the

968
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: year he doesn't win the MVP wins the championships and

969
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: the same thing happened to jok. He wins two m

970
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: vps year, he doesn't win the m v P. Although

971
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: you agree that, I'd say I told you he should

972
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: have won the MVP. You did, you did all? You're

973
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: all about him, b I was about him be that year.

974
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: I mean it was he had He was so close

975
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 3: the other two years. Give them one.

976
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: It's just like the years that Jordan didn't win. I mean, well,

977
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Malone one, We're gonna get Barkley one.

978
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, why Jordan is the most Valuable Player every

979
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: year during the Dynasty run with the Bulls, every single

980
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: year he.

981
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: Should have been MVP and he took it out on

982
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: those guys in the finals. Of course he played Barkley

983
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: the one year.

984
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: And yeah exactly, he's like, who did you get the

985
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: MVP award two? All right? On the other side, the

986
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: most indestructible sporty event in America by far, and it's

987
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: gonna be tested this year. We'll explain why this is

988
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Harmon and Carry Rhoades. Here Fox

989
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We're coming live from the tai Iraq dot

990
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: Com studios. Yeah move, Steve, Harry, Max playing some good

991
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: tunes right now. She's got a birthday coming up, by

992
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: the way, she's gonna be all of twenty one. You

993
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: remember that, remember that age? I do? I do?

994
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, fun times, fun times.

995
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: Do you guys have any like advice for me?

996
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: Then?

997
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just whatever you're doing now, I keep doing it. Yeah,

998
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: do that. As far as do you have something special

999
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: plan for your big twenty first?

1000
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 8: You know, why is not my first place I'm gonna

1001
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 8: throw like a little party with like some friends.

1002
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: That's right, you got a place. I heard about that

1003
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: very now.

1004
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 8: I really wish my family was here though, like my cousins. Yeah,

1005
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 8: I feel like it would be a lot more special.

1006
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have friends obviously that want to

1007
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: get you blasted. I mean, you know, it's sort of

1008
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: a ritual in your twenty first I'm not like the

1009
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: blasted type.

1010
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: Why.

1011
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: I understand that. But you have to do it anyway

1012
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: whether you.

1013
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: Want it not.

1014
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: So is it really necessary?

1015
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: You know?

1016
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, Carrie, do you remember that twenty first birthday?

1017
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: I don't think it's really necessary.

1018
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: But it's twenty one.

1019
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you go to clubs now do it at forty?

1020
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, forty.

1021
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: I hope I have like kids.

1022
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: And all right, it's one thing at a time. Be

1023
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: careful what you wish for down the way.

1024
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 4: All right.

1025
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Once again, by the way, right after the show, our

1026
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,279
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1027
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,600
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1028
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,200
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1029
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,760
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1030
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,319
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1031
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: see this show posted right after we get off the air.

1032
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: So a week from tomorrow is Selections Sunday at the

1033
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: single most unbreakable sporting event in America. I mean, you

1034
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 2: can talk about the Super Bowl, obviously gets the most viewers,

1035
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 2: but professional sports and college sports are two different things, right,

1036
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: And what we have seen in college basketball, if you're

1037
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: looking at the mock drafts for the twenty twenty four

1038
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: NBA Draft, the players that you're going to see highlighted

1039
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: in this year's tournament, as we've seen really over about

1040
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: the last decade with very few exceptions, are not guys

1041
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: that are going to be making it in the NBA.

1042
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the mock draft, there's

1043
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: a lot of guys from Europe. Yeah, there's the guys

1044
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: in the Elite League. There's a lot of these kind

1045
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: of names that you will not see in the NCAA tournament.

1046
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 2: You know, we got Zach Edie yep, who is going

1047
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: to be player of the Year again. He has even

1048
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: better numbers that Purdue than he had a year ago.

1049
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 2: And if you're looking for his name in the draft,

1050
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: look in the second round. Yes, like middle second round.

1051
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: Remember last year, Drew Timmy after a great run against Zaga,

1052
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, had that big game to knock the UCLA

1053
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: out on the Sweet six team. Not only was he

1054
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: not drafted in the NBA, he got signed by a

1055
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: G League team and got released. Did he really Oh

1056
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Well yeah, yeah, so he he

1057
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: signed with the G League and they got released by

1058
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: a G League team a year ago. This guy is

1059
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: one of the biggest stars of the NCAA tournament and

1060
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: his game doesn't translate to the NBA. And I don't

1061
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: have a problem with that. Much like the comparison of

1062
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark to men's records, women's basketball is different than

1063
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: men's basketball. Men's collegiate basketball is different than the NBA,

1064
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: just because your game does not translate to the NBA

1065
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: does not take away anything that you do at the

1066
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: collegiate level. It stands on its own. This is why

1067
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: I like the fact that in football there's a college

1068
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: football Hall of Fame and there's a pro football Hall

1069
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 2: of Fame. The basketball Hall of Fame is by far

1070
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: the worst. They just throw everybody into the mix and

1071
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: it just doesn't even make any sense. It's just ridiculous

1072
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: how you have a mix of what is it? There

1073
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: is no NBA Hall. He's in the NBA. There's no

1074
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: such thing as the NBA Hall of Fame. It's a

1075
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: basketball Hall of Fame. I mean, you have finalists this

1076
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: year of high school coaches high school? No way? Really? Yes,

1077
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean you know the Hurley Bob Hurley's senior was.

1078
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: He only coached high school. He's in the basketball Hall

1079
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: of Fame. So he's right there with Phil Jackson and

1080
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: John Wood. I mean, it's like, okay, anyway, but what

1081
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: is it? As we and I know you're watching this

1082
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Duke North Carolina game, dude's making a little bit of

1083
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: a run down eighth though at home, and coach k

1084
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: Is they're watching, But what is it about march madness

1085
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: in your opinion that you don't need stars to make

1086
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: it work.

1087
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: Oh, it's that's simple. It's it's just it's the team.

1088
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 3: It's the universities, right, and the coaches. And the coaches,

1089
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean coaches are large as than life, yes, for sure,

1090
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: because the turnover, right, but you know, like the old

1091
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: the olden days, even you know, I'm gonna go back

1092
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: to my days. I'm calling my days the older days,

1093
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: not yours. So just yes, early early nineties, right, I'm

1094
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: a young kid in Alabama. There's no Alabama basketball wasn't

1095
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: a thing right now. So I see these football state right,

1096
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: So I see these guys.

1097
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: In North Carolina blue and white.

1098
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's cool, blue and white team. I see

1099
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: this coach that's large, you know, becoming larger than life.

1100
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 3: And you start seeing players as well. But you start

1101
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: to see the passion that these fan bases have in

1102
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: their teams, and you see like the pure joy of

1103
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: actual guys wanting to come back and guys wanting to

1104
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: you know, blood sweating tears on the court, like the

1105
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: passion that was kind of created out of those situations

1106
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: in the collegiate sports game where it was even now

1107
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 3: where it's all this money thing and I all these things.

1108
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: The purity of the game at that point drew me in.

1109
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: And so you see the coach, you see this recognized,

1110
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: recognizable figure, you see the mascot a devil, this blue

1111
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: like the theatrics around the teams and the cameron you know,

1112
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 3: like that stuff really matters. And once you get to

1113
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: a point when you go to the to the NBA,

1114
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: it's it's about me. And you'll see a team here

1115
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: and there that you like, the Chicago Boys or becomes

1116
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 3: a dynasty, but other than that, you don't really pay attention.

1117
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: To other till that was a long time ago, right, But.

1118
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: That's in the nineties, early nineties, at the same time

1119
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: as that's going on. Yeah, and I would just you know,

1120
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm a Jordan Pipen guy. I like pipping more than Jordan,

1121
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 3: so I would see them. But it wasn't about the bulls.

1122
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 3: It was about the individual player. But in college I

1123
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: always talk about Duke or talk about the name on

1124
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: the front of the chest. And I think that purity

1125
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: of what that brought for me was the reason why

1126
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: that game is such a big deal.

1127
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a really difficult year for me. I'm

1128
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: a UCLA guy, and the UCLA is staring at will

1129
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: be their fifth losing season since nineteen forty eight, all

1130
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: the year that John Wooden became the head coach at UCLA.

1131
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: Five it's only been five. Wow, in seventy plus years,

1132
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: seventy five years something like that. Wow, It's been a

1133
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: rough year, a rough year, especially after three straight runs

1134
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: of the Sweet sixteen, including a Final four run a

1135
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: few years ago. So it's hard for me to get

1136
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: into you know what happened this year with them. I

1137
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: didn't see it well. They had a complete turnover their roster. Obviously,

1138
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: you lose Haimi hawkas you lose Tiger Campbell, you lose

1139
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: a lot of veteran players that stayed together after that

1140
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: Final four run to try to do it again and

1141
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: got a couple of Sweet sixteens after that. But what

1142
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: they did was and because I'm fearful, I'm a mc

1143
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: cronin fan, and I know Louisville wants him bad if

1144
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: I lose mc cronin to your school. Because here's what

1145
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: happened at UCLA. From what I was told, They're outgoing

1146
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 2: Chancellor Gene Block. Basically after thirteen years. His mission was

1147
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: to de emphasize sports as much as humanly possible. I mean,

1148
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: by many polls, UCLA's rated the number one public university

1149
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 2: in the country. Academics the whole shebank, which makes my

1150
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: diploma look all that much better because, believe me, I

1151
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: did nothing to add to that. But sports was a

1152
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: priority and it's no longer a priority. So apparently what

1153
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: happened was they told Mick, look, we're not playing this

1154
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: nil game, you know, and you know I love this.

1155
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: You see how the NCAA is no longer investigating this

1156
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: whole ani This thing is completely out of control. People

1157
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: don't think that they are recruiting players, especially in the

1158
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: transfer portal, by waving money at them. I mean, you're

1159
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: you're kidding yourself, tournament, Yes I did, so, this is

1160
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: this is but UCLA didn't want to play that game,

1161
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: even with high school recruiting. So what they did was

1162
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: they recruited a bunch of euro players and guess which

1163
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 2: players don't command an il money, right, And so that's

1164
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: the route they went. And it turned out these guys

1165
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: play a very soft game, very soft game, and on

1166
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: top of that, that's one of the worst shooting teams in

1167
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: the nation, so soft and bad shooting adds up to

1168
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: the losing season. Uh and in my opinion, is no

1169
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: reflection on the Corona. I think he's a great coach,

1170
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: but my fear is if he's gonna say, I'm not

1171
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 2: going to take another hit on my resume like this.

1172
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: So either you're going to play the game that needs

1173
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: to be played and for us to be competitive now

1174
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: that we're moving into the Big ten, or I'm going

1175
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: to go somewhere like Louisville where they're saying we'll do

1176
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

1177
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: Oh I is happening there for sure? Yeah, yes, and

1178
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: no problem. So yeah, I mean that's it's tough.

1179
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: So you know, unless they pull a miracle and win

1180
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve tournament, which is not going to happen,

1181
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: their season will end. I mean that's hard for me

1182
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: when I don't have my school in the tournament.

1183
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Junior Bridgman alone will take care of some

1184
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: of those guys coming over that way.

1185
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, a lot the Woodens last year

1186
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: they played Louisville, and of course his protege Denny Crumb

1187
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: was the coach, yes, and Louisville was a better team.

1188
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: Junior Bridgeman was on that team and UCLA upset him

1189
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: in the semis when in the locker room said the

1190
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: next game will be my last game, and he wins.

1191
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: That last championship went out with a bang. Yeah, Louisville

1192
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: had a guy in their team who had not missed

1193
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: a free throw the entire season, and he has a

1194
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: one plus one and he missed. Really it was Terry

1195
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: Howard or something like that, and he had not actually

1196
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: missed a free throw the entire he was like twenty

1197
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: eight of twenty eight. He missed the front end in

1198
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: UCLA with a one point lead, and there's no three

1199
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: point play in that's rice, that's right. So he hits

1200
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: two free throws, it's over. He misses the first ucle

1201
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: hit the game winning show. It was Destin. It was Destiny.

1202
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: Are you are you as a Louisville guy. It's such

1203
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: a duke guy. I mean the fact that Louisville's last

1204
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: national championship was stricken from the record. Why are you

1205
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: not a Louisville basketball fan? I don't get well, I

1206
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: get it all the time.

1207
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, my best friend still to this day,

1208
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: played on the on that final fourteen.

1209
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: Why would you be a Duke fan?

1210
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, I told you I was a little boy in

1211
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 3: Alabama and Louisville doesn't matter basketball school it is, but

1212
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: I was in competition with them. It was all about

1213
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: U Ofville basketball. And when I got there, we had

1214
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: to change that. And near to you get death.

1215
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: Stairs or Rick Patino or what happened then?

1216
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: Well, you know the funny thing about that was I

1217
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: was supposed to play both sports at Louisville.

1218
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: And so my first year there, Oh that's the story.

1219
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: That's the story.

1220
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: So my first year with Denny Crumb was Denny Crumb's

1221
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: last year, and so I was I would go to

1222
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: practice with those guys in practicing and do the whole deal.

1223
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: And I was a skinny kid, so I my whole

1224
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 3: thing about being I read shirted my first year was

1225
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: to gain weight, and so I gained weight.

1226
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: It came in.

1227
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: I was around like two o five after that first

1228
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: year and went out and with practicing with the basketball

1229
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 3: team and lost it all all, lost all the weight again,

1230
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: and the coaches like, you gotta choose one. So I

1231
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 3: end up choosing football. And that's that's the history of that.

1232
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: But basketball was my favorite sport. So it was a

1233
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: little bit of a conundrum.

1234
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't understand this. I mean, here, you are a

1235
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: guy who went to an elite basketball school, Louisville. Huh,

1236
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: until you're a Duke fan and a Duke fan, I

1237
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: get it. Trust me, they get after me all the time. Steve,

1238
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: it's am I roupe of Louisville outside of Duke. Hold on,

1239
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: if your school would be in the championship game against Duke,

1240
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: you'd be rooting for Duke.

1241
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: Listen, Steve, the final that final four game? Was it

1242
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: the final four?

1243
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 2: Leader? It was Final four? A little bit of Duke

1244
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: about was that? Twenty thirteen?

1245
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 7: Was?

1246
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: I think so twenty thirteen. I was sitting on my

1247
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: hands quiet the whole time, just really just what.

1248
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: Your heart was with Duke. Get out of here. The

1249
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: hell's going on here?

1250
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: Ridiculous?

1251
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: You root for your school? All right, let's find out

1252
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: what's trending right now Martin's. Can you imagine this guy,

1253
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: This guy was blessed to go to one of the

1254
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: great basketball schools, Louisville. All those years of Denny crom

1255
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 2: Rick Bettino, they still won a national championship. Nancy can

1256
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: take it away. It's ridiculous they won, and he's rooting

1257
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: for Duke.

1258
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 6: You know, speaking of the twenty thirteen Final four, I

1259
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 6: remember sitting on my couch in that arbor saying, five

1260
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 6: years from now, when this one is vacated, it's not

1261
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 6: going to change a thing. I'm gonna still remember how

1262
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 6: terrible that foul call was on Peyton Steve Trey Burke.

1263
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 6: One of the worst calls and in college basketball history.

1264
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 6: But you see, Steve, this is the thing you're under rating.

1265
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: I know where Carry's coming from.

1266
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 4: Here.

1267
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: He grew up rooting for a team his whole life. Right.

1268
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 6: Then he goes to Louisville, and you say, he got

1269
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 6: the chance to go to Louisville, had a chance to

1270
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 6: go a lot of places in Louisvill's where he chose

1271
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 6: to go.

1272
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: They picked him, and he said, you know what, I'll

1273
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: come back.

1274
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: And then he goes to campus, right, big bad football

1275
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 6: player walking around you know what I'm saying, all in

1276
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 6: his in his Louisville sweats, and he's in competition now,

1277
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 6: not just with every other school, but also with the

1278
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 6: men's basketball team at Louisville.

1279
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you're a Michigan guy, did you what school did

1280
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 2: you have a favorite school college when you were growing up?

1281
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: Did you root it for? Not really? Okay, so it's

1282
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: you go to Michigan, you're a Michigan man. I am okay.

1283
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 6: But because where I grew up is either you went

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Speaker 6: to like the Families, then went to LSU, then went

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Speaker 6: to Alabama and they went the old Myths and went

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Speaker 6: to Tennessee, and you rooted.

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Speaker 2: For your parents went the school at Kerrie made the point,

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Speaker 2: growing up an alib there's Alabama basketball is nothing. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's a football state. Sure, so he migrated to

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Speaker 2: North Carolina where they have all this basketball fever. But still, man,

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Speaker 2: once your I grew up a Trojan, my dad, my

1292
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: dad graduated from USC. I was raised a Trojan, die hard.

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Speaker 2: I went to UCLA. I've never seen you nine in

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Speaker 2: the UCLA polo. Well this is my every single Saturday shirt,

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Speaker 2: as you know. No, I'm a Ucla man all the

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Speaker 2: way through. You know what I will say though, is

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Speaker 2: that the USC let's say football players that were great

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Speaker 2: when I was growing up, I'm still I got an

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Speaker 2: allegiance to them because that was before I became a Bruin.

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Speaker 2: Once I was a brun I was a bruin so well.

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Speaker 6: The Louisville Cardinals right now trailing Boston College sixty six

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Speaker 6: to fifty nine with about twenty three seconds left in

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Speaker 6: the second half.

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Speaker 2: Eight and twenty two on the year. You didn't have

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Speaker 2: to say the last part.

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Speaker 6: You know, Ucla they got a fourteen and sixteen on

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Speaker 6: the year.

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Speaker 2: Mick Cronin, I got you, you know at Fair and

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Speaker 2: batlence Ter on Fox forts a lot of rumors about

1310
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Speaker 2: him going to Louisville that you'd be sad about that, Steve,

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Speaker 2: I would. I think Mick Cronin is a hell of

1312
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Speaker 2: a coach. I got he got a raw deal by

1313
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: the university, awed deal.

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Speaker 6: If you're not cutting checks in this in college sports

1315
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Speaker 6: around this time, good luck.

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Speaker 2: Either gonna play. And now they're moving into the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: You don't think that it's gonna be more competition? Come on.

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Speaker 6: Also, warning college basketball, these team's actually good. Top twenty

1319
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Speaker 6: five wins. I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. Top twenty

1320
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Speaker 6: five wins for Creighton, Alabama, South Carolina, and Florida. The

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Speaker 6: number one Houston Cougar's Molly wopped the Kansas Jayhawks seventy

1322
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Speaker 6: six to forty six.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling there'll.

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Speaker 6: Be number one when the polls come out on Monday

1325
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Speaker 6: twenty eight and three on the year for Kelvin Sampton's bunch.

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Speaker 6: Iowa State upset I'm sorry, Kansas State upset Iowa State

1327
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Speaker 6: sixty five to fifty eight. The fifteenth rank Kentucky Wildcats

1328
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 6: got a big win in Knoxville. They knocked off the

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Speaker 6: fourth ranked Volunteers eighty five to eighty one. Appalatchis State,

1330
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Speaker 6: unc Asheville, Thousand, Vermont, Sanford, Merrymack Longwood, Bryan Wagner, and Monmouth.

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Speaker 6: One of those teams will probably bust your bracket in

1332
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Speaker 6: a few weeks. So they've all advanced in their conference tournaments.

1333
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Speaker 6: In the NFL, the Broncos are reportedly trading wide receiver

1334
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 6: Jerry Judy to the Cleveland Browns. They'll get a fifth

1335
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Speaker 6: and six round pick coming back. Brown's now cleared nearly

1336
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 6: fifty million dollars in cash base over the last five

1337
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 6: days in preparation for the biggest dead cap hit in the

1338
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Speaker 6: NFL history, Russell Wilson's eighty five million dollars. Philadelphia Eagles

1339
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 6: signed defensive end Brandon Graham from Michigan Man to a

1340
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 6: one year extension, while the Eagles have given him linebacker

1341
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 6: Hassan Reddick persmission to facilitate a trade, and I've been

1342
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 6: taking trade calls on defensive end Josh Sweat and per

1343
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 6: the Athletics Diana Russini. The Chargers are open to trade

1344
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 6: offers for both Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack, but may

1345
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 6: not get them because a few teams are waiting to

1346
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 6: see if those veteran pass rousters get cut instead. Kerrie Steve,

1347
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 6: I'd never cut you guys. Back to you, all right, Martin,

1348
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 6: We appreciate that. Thank you very much. Once again, we're

1349
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Speaker 6: live from the tire rock dot Com studios. So a

1350
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 6: lot of times people that have.

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Speaker 2: Heard me over the years and I go down memory lane,

1352
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: They're like, oh please, So I grew up as a

1353
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: huge boxing fan. You know, I'm remember Muhammad Ali in

1354
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: his prime. You know, the great heavyweights of the seventies,

1355
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Fraser and George Foreman and you know

1356
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: Larry Holmes, very underrated, and then that incredible decade when

1357
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Speaker 2: we had the likes of Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Tommy

1358
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: Hearns and Roberto Durant and Sugar Rays Renard. You know,

1359
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: any combination of those four was golden. And even years

1360
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: after that, when we had like Evander Holyfield going against

1361
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, this was news stuff. And you know with

1362
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hoya and Sugar Shane Moseley and all

1363
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: those great boxers, and eventually, you know, with Manny Pacio

1364
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Speaker 2: and all that. So it really hurts me when I

1365
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 2: see the complete demise of boxing to the point where

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Speaker 2: the biggest star in boxing is Jake Paul. There is

1367
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Speaker 2: no doubt the biggest star in boxing right now is

1368
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Speaker 2: twenty seven year old Jake Paul. Is he the biggest

1369
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: star or the biggest draw that does that?

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Speaker 4: Go?

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Speaker 2: Well, they do exactly. In other words, he is must

1372
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Speaker 2: watch for more people than any other boxer going right now,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean this.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have Canel, you have all these great fighters.

1376
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: The heavyweight division still has great fighters. But if you're

1377
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Speaker 2: talking about who is the must watch fighter right now,

1378
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 2: it's Jake Paul. So he is twenty seven and now

1379
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: he has signed to fight fifty seven year old Mike

1380
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: Tyson coming up. It's going to be a Netflix fight.

1381
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: And Paul said it's time to put Iron Mike to sleep.

1382
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: He's fifty seven years old. He's sleep already. He's fifty seven.

1383
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: He's fifty to fifty seven.

1384
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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: Last time, it wasn't that long. It was four years ago.

1386
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: He had that fight against Rory Jones, the Mike Tyson

1387
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 2: member and ended in a draw. Yeah, whatever, that was friendly.

1388
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: But it's it pains me. And it's not a knock

1389
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: on Jake Paul. I mean, this guy's a marketing genius.

1390
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 2: What he's been able to do, it really is unbelievable.

1391
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: It is that he has been able to do what

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01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: he has done where people say, you know, they laugh

1393
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 2: on off when you see this. People are gonna watch,

1394
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: they want to see it. I mean, Tyson says he's

1395
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: going to end Jake Paul permanently. Did he say that.

1396
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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it pains me to see guys like that

1397
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 3: in the ring, looking like looking like they look.

1398
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Speaker 2: Now it's you.

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Speaker 3: Know, it's either I mean, obviously it's for the money,

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: but it's it's sad that they have to do that

1401
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: or resort to that for any kind of financial gain.

1402
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 3: And that's that's what hurts me the most. I want

1403
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 3: to remember Tyson for we can remember advertising for a

1404
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: lot of things. Yeah, he did a lot of things.

1405
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: But I want to remember him for his tenacity, his speed,

1406
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: his knockouts, the way he demolished people in his prime. Yes,

1407
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 3: you want to remember that. I don't want to see

1408
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: fifty seven year old Tyson in the ring just to

1409
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 3: sell of himself.

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01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: Gray hair, big belly. Well, actually, the last time I

1411
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 2: saw him he was in reasonable shade. He's obviously thicker

1412
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: now than he was then. He's not a tall guy.

1413
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: I remember he's under He's only five eleven. So when

1414
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: he was going against the Lennox Lewis's of the world, man,

1415
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 2: he look tiny, he did, yeah, but he had that

1416
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 2: amazing power. He Actually the one heavyweight champion he was

1417
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: most like was Rocky Marciano, who was a guy had

1418
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 2: very short arms so he had to get inside, but

1419
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 2: had insane power in his punches, just like Tyson did

1420
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 2: back in the heyday. Look, I'll be watching. You're gonna

1421
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: watch it, Absolutely, I'm gonna watch it, Steve.

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01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can watch it, man, I

1423
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: know i'll see it because it'll be everywhere. Oh you

1424
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1425
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean if Tyson gets in there and just

1426
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Speaker 2: I mean the power is still there. I don't know

1427
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 2: if he can get around quick enough. And Jake Paul

1428
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 2: is beating up on you know, MMA fighters and a

1429
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: lot of Yeah, this is Mike Tyson, and I would

1430
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: imagine pretty motivated Mike Tyson. So all right, even at

1431
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Speaker 2: age fifty seven, you're a prediction on how the fight

1432
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: is going to go. Well, I mean it's all stage

1433
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: right exactly. I mean, I hope it's not just like,

1434
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, two guys dancing around not really taking it

1435
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: seriously if they're going punch for punch. Look, Tyson got

1436
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: knocked out by Buster Douglas. Yes, Tyson got knocked around

1437
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: a lot after his invincibility was exposed in that Buster

1438
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: Douglas fight. Guys put him on the canvas. Yeah, several

1439
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: times when he was still you know, fighting as a

1440
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: legit professional fighter. So Tyson's not indestructible. It's just the

1441
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 2: fact that he still's got some power he was before

1442
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: he was before he lands a punch on Jake Paul.

1443
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: Jake Paul, I promise you will never have felt anything

1444
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: close to the power of that punch. I'm not even close.

1445
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be a handshake deal.

1446
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I agree with you. I

1447
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: know Tyson still has power. There was a video I

1448
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: think a couple of months ago, or was it maybe

1449
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: a year, and I hope it's not like you remember

1450
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: the Floyd Mayweather Connor McGregor fight. Yeah, and in the

1451
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: very first round Mayweather had a clean shot that would

1452
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: have ended the fight, and he pulled it. I mean

1453
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 2: it was so obvious. Really, he had a clean shot

1454
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: on McGregor that would have just ended it. And then

1455
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: they danced around for ten rounds and that was that

1456
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: and they're just like, come on exactly.

1457
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 3: That's why I don't want to see that's that one.

1458
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 2: See you don't want to see it? Go back, you two.

1459
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: I mean some of the great fight, even the holy

1460
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: Field Tyson fights, even with Tyson biting holy Field's ear drama,

1461
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: those were those were fights. There were good fights. Yeah.

1462
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe anyway.

1463
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: I expected more from you, to be honesty, I didn't

1464
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 3: think you would buy into the hype of that one.

1465
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: I like boxing, You like box I like boxing a lot,

1466
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: all right? Coming up on the other side, what is

1467
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: going to be the big story coming out of the

1468
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: next few days in terms of NFL free agency, We're

1469
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: gonna break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve

1470
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 2: Hartman and Carrie Rhodes with you here Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're live from the ti raq dot Com studios. Want

1472
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: to thank the crew today. Of course, Smartin is gonna

1473
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 2: get ready for his own show here with DJ Shortly

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Speaker 2: Mary Mac. Yeah, these these songs you've been playing today,

1475
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: you realize pre date you decades, but it's it's an

1476
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: impressive Well because I know that.

1477
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, how can I still play music that

1478
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 8: resonates with me but also resonates with you guys?

1479
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 9: Well, and look, yeah, my son's well, especially my oldest son,

1480
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 9: he prefers music of my era, so to speak.

1481
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, I asked, and both my sons actually do.

1482
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not up on exactly what's happening in

1483
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four outside of I see Taylor Swift getting

1484
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: all these awards and everything else. But you like this, Merrimack,

1485
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: You like this, This is great music.

1486
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, I like all these stuff. I kind of

1487
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: listen to like everything. She's a music connoisseur. I've learned

1488
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 3: that through my dealings with Mary, she's.

1489
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: Was your musical taste in the moment or was it retro?

1490
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: Mine was retro?

1491
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 3: But I think that's also kind of because my parents

1492
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 3: listen to a certain thing that I would want to

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Speaker 3: fancy as well. I think that's probably where it comes from.

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Speaker 2: And then there's Patrick, our producer. Hey guys, Patrick, are

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Speaker 2: you a retro guy or are you an in the

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Speaker 2: moment music guy? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Honestly, my music stuff, I'm not the greatest, but I

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Speaker 7: kind of just go like wherever I kind of listen

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Speaker 7: to the kind of like the rock and rolls or

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Speaker 7: the alternative musics, like the Lincoln Parks type stuff of.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Park Park. Okay, yeah, that's good. That's good stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can't deny that one. All right, I need to

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Speaker 2: ask you as we get ready And by the way,

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Speaker 2: if you missed it, so Adam Kaplan or Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio NFL insider said, forget Wednesday, Monday is it. By

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Speaker 2: the time we get to Wednesday, there would be twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty deals in place. These are verbal, obviously, but deals

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Speaker 2: will start flying as soon as Monday around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But we still got to get back to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: For a second, here, the Denver Broncos are taking an

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Speaker 2: eighty million dollar cap hit. Now, when you are owned

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Speaker 2: by the richest family in the country, which is the

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Speaker 2: Walton family of Walmart fame, does this I mean you

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Speaker 2: talk about giving someone the power. They handed Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: the keys. When you look at the Broncos season last year,

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Speaker 2: the start of the season was some of the worst

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Speaker 2: defensive football we've ever seen in the history of the game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they actually turned that around. If you look at Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson's numbers, they were certainly improved from the year before.

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people want to belittle

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Speaker 2: some of his passing numbers. He threw a lot of

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Speaker 2: passes from behind the line of scrimmage. I saw this

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Speaker 2: crazy stat about you know, he had the highest percentage

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Speaker 2: of passes that were completed from behind it. I'm just

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Speaker 2: looking at the numbers, right, you know, touchdown passed, interception ratio,

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Speaker 2: completion percentage yards per a time. I mean, he's in line. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: their record wasn't because he failed. Yes, it's the fact

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Speaker 2: that they dug himselves a hole because their defense was

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Speaker 2: historically bad at the beginning of the season. You talk

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Speaker 2: about hitting the reset button. What okay, bye bye, Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: You tell the Walden family they're gonna have to eat

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Speaker 2: eighty million dollars and you started ground zero at the

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Speaker 2: most important position on the field. Yeah, that is insanity.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's crazy to me. I'm not a Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton fan, and I think I've made that clear, and

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Speaker 2: so for anybody to have that much control or that

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Speaker 2: much I guess leeway with the team, it's crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: And then you again, Russell, Russell Wilson wasn't the problem.

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Speaker 2: You get rid of him and you take a hit,

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Speaker 2: then you also get rid of your your stud safety

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Speaker 2: Justin Simmons and release him. So obviously he's trying to

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Speaker 2: gain complete control of that locker room and that team.

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Speaker 3: That's all that says. It's like he wants to build

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Speaker 3: a team in his mold. How much time does he have?

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Speaker 3: How much time is he going to they're gonna give

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Speaker 3: him to get that job done, because that's not going

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Speaker 3: to happen overnight.

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Speaker 2: Well, you get rid of Judy as well, and Judy

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Speaker 2: as Well was an underperformer based on the hype out

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Speaker 2: of Alabama. But still, wow, talk about a reset at

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Speaker 2: a heavy price.

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Speaker 3: But the guy that's only won one super Bowl, it's

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Speaker 3: not like he's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that guy, yeah, I mean his resume. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: how there are certain coaches. They all have almost the

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Speaker 2: identical resume. John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy, and and and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: Literally they're they're winning percentages are within fractions of each other,

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Speaker 2: how many games they won in their career, and the

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Speaker 2: fact that all three have been to exactly one Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and won that one super Bowl, but the other

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Speaker 2: two are humble though. Oh oh oh, you ready for

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Speaker 2: that one. So do you think Kirk Cousins is going

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Speaker 2: to be in Atlanta Falcon? I think he's going to

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Speaker 2: stay in Minnesota, stay in Minnesota. I do, Wow, I do?

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Speaker 2: And we're is justin Field is gonna end up? Who?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not a free agent. He has to

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Speaker 2: be creative. That's the hard one to hear. What Kaplan

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Speaker 2: said that that that I don't know. He says they're trying,

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Speaker 2: but no, there doesn't seem to be any interest. All right,

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Speaker 2: We're interested in everything going on in the sports world.

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Speaker 2: That's why you keep it here. This is Fox Sports Radio,