1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm welcome to save a prediction of I Heart 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Radio and Steffidia. I'm Annyis and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: today we have for you a classic fall themed episode 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: about pumpkin, one of the great loves of my life. Yeah, 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, oh my god. Um. I haven't carved 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: my pumpkin yet, have you? No, I haven't. Um, I 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: haven't done my whole like like fall. It's been so 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: warm here today that we are recording. This is literally 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: the first day that the temperature has been anywhere near 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: fall like. According to me, I had to go back 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: inside and get a jacket before I left. A jacket, 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: a jacket, sweater weather what So yeah, um, because ay 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: we we you know this. This is an older episode 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: from way backing off food stuff days. Um and and 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: be yeah, pumpkins, good times, so much to be said, 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: they're oh my heck, there is yes um And also, 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's just been kind of like in my 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: head since we did our Turnip episode and did that 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: rerun of the Stingy Jack telling. So you get to 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: listen to that again if you want to skip past it, 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: do what you want. I can't tell you what to do. 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: I think you should definitely listen again and then send 23 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: in your your take off. That would be so good. Yes, 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: do you know, Lauren and I love anything that's kind 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: of spooky, creepy, all that realm, So we would love 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: that absolutely. So we're going to let former Annie and 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Lauren take it away. Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reeve and I'm Lauren vocal Bam and today 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: it's the pumpkin episode. Yes, but don't roll your eyes 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and click away just yet. So don't I know, it's 31 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: pumpkin everything, and it's kind of an overdone trend at 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: this point really, but yeah, it's pumpkin is really interesting 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: when you think about it, because it's a food and 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: a decoration and it feels kind of new to me. 35 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: I mean, does it feel near to you apart from 36 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: now we're reaching saturation point? But yeah, yeah, aside well, 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's got 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: such a long history. It's one of the first cultivated 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: foods ever. Yeah, and we just I feel like in 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: the United States we haven't been eating it that long 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: and we still kind of don't utilize it. We kind 42 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: of go back and forth about it. Yeah, there we 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: have periods of eating it and then just table decoration. 44 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: It's it's really okay. So I checked Google trends, and 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: the search graft for pumpkin is just hilariously peaked. Um. 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Every October the search is spike like one thousand nine. 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: That is quite a percent versus the rest of the year. Yeah, 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: it's it's nuts. Um we peak pumpkin searches. By the way, 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: it's never pumpkin search. Searches for pumpkin spice, meanwhile, have 50 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: been trending upward since Google started recording data in two 51 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: thousand four, with really huge yearly jumps again in October 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: starting starting mostly um. Also, no one outside of the 53 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: United States in Canada gives a single fig about pumpkin 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: spice anything, according to Google. So really, yeah, it's just 55 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: a low, steady burn trend. Yeah. I like the measurement 56 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: of fig as well. We should adopt that. How many 57 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: figs do I get? Three figs? Three figs like pumpkin. Yeah, 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Let's let's do that thing. If 59 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: you're if you're from the United States anyway, that the 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: word pumpkin probably evokes a really specific image like a 61 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: large squash that has this hard, smooth ribbed, orange colored 62 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: shell that's harvested in the fall. But the term can 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: actually refer to this really ridiculous number of different species 64 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: and cultivars within that species, cultivars being strains that have 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: been bred by humans for specific properties. They're all in 66 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the genus Cucurbita probably um, and most are in the 67 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: species Cucurbita peppo, which is actually just this tremendously huge category. Technically, 68 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: zucchini a k a. Corgette for many of our European listeners, 69 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: is the same species as pumpkin, really same species. They 70 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: don't look anything alike, Nope. Cultivars uh squash in general 71 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: are are categorized as summer or winter varieties based on 72 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: when they're harvested. The summer types, like zucchini, have soft 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: skins and soft seeds and are harvested in the summer. 74 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: The winter types tend to have these hard, kind of 75 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: gordy skins, which are natural preservers um. If you keep 76 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: them in a cool, dark place, they'll hold up for 77 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: at least two months without any kind of intervention, and um. 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: The seeds are a little bit harder to they should 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: really be cooked in some way before you consume them. Yeah, 80 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: but what is it? What is it? Well, pumpkin is 81 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: a fruit botanically speaking, a berry. Actually, what it's like tomatoes? Uh, 82 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: they're they're the ovary of the pumpkin flower that has 83 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: grown large enough to contain, protect the growth of, and 84 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: hopefully distribute lots of seeds. Uh. These flowers and their 85 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: resulting fruit grow on vines, and the fruit gets really 86 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: big if you give them enough resources to do so. 87 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: The biggest on record is from a Belgian grower in 88 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: his pumpkin weigh two thousand, six hundred and twenty four 89 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: pounds a k A like one thousands a k A, 90 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: just a little bit less than a Honda Civic. WHOA, 91 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: So you and I both have Honda Civics, and I'm 92 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: just trying to imagine replacing my Honda Civic with AIG 93 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: and then the weight being similar. That is enormous. We 94 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: could certainly both fit with cargo room inside of one 95 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: of these pumpkins. All you're worth looking into talk about Cinderella, right, Yeah, 96 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: pumpkins are grown all over the world, by the way. 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: The only continent they can't grow on is Antarctica. Let 98 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose that indoors in a greenhouse, you 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: could probably make it happen. Probably, I guess not too 100 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: much grows in Antarctica when you think about it. Um, 101 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: and they're grown for multiple uses, animal feed decoration and 102 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: human feed consumption. Yeah, they grow during a single season. 103 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: Seeds planted in late spring will mature to full fruit 104 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: by fall. This reminds me. I have a friend who 105 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: angrily threw her jack o lantern once and it still 106 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: has seeds in it, and she ended up growing like 107 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: several pumpkins, which I thought it was kind of bizarre 108 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: because I feel like I've thrown pumpkin seeds out and 109 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: nothing's happened. But maybe she had the right just had 110 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: the right conditions for the right velocity of throw. Oh 111 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: and it just worked out, I guess. And uh like 112 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: we kind of hit on it. It's kind of a 113 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: new trend in the US, but I've seen pumpkin and 114 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: grocery stores and in both sweet and savory dishes when traveling, 115 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: especially in Asia and Australia. I remember the first time 116 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: I saw it in a store in Australia. It was 117 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: just in chunks like packaged chunks um, and you can 118 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: find small hole pumpkins in Japanese savory dishes like tempura 119 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: um roasted like any other vegetable in Australia, New Zealand 120 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: as a sweet in India and the Middle East, in 121 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: pastas in Italy. In places like China and Kenya, the 122 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: leaves are steamed and eaten. Pumpkin and squash blossoms are 123 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: very popular in Mexico and the southwestern US. You find 124 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: it and most parts of it used every which way, 125 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: from super sweet candies and Tomali's. I've even heard there's 126 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: a tour through Mexico where you just go and try 127 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: all the different types of pumpkin, all the different color bezas. Yeah, exactly, 128 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: that sounds delicious. Um. And there's this pumpkin soup. I 129 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: still regret not trying. I was hiking in the Andes 130 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and crew, but I got altitude sickness the one day 131 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: they served pumpkin soup and they served it in the 132 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: pumpkin and I love pumpkin and soup, and I was 133 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: so upset that there was no way, no way. I 134 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: was like seeing spots falling slowly out of my chair. 135 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Now next, next time, next time. Next time I'm hiking 136 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: in the Andies, I will not get out to sickness. 137 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Certainly not on Pumpkin Soup Day. Yes, of all the days, 138 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: the pumpkin industry is having a bit of a heyday. 139 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: In the US, pumpkin production went from around a seventy 140 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: five million dollar industry in two thousand and one to 141 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: at three million dollar one. It's quite the jump, And 142 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: most of the pumpkins were buying in the store. Are 143 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: are the big Halloween pumpkins that we think of, Yes, 144 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: generally the big orange ones. And then the second type 145 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: you're most likely to encounter in a grocery store is 146 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: a processing pumpkin processing, Yes, which I believe is so 147 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: named because a majority of them end up in processing 148 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: plants where their flesh is processed, canned, and shipped to 149 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: grocery stores as pie filling, pipe filling, or the like. 150 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: So that sounds kind of horrifying the use of the 151 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: word flesh generally. Yeah. Most pumpkins candor otherwise in the 152 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: US also come from Illinois. Illinois lead the way in 153 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: US pumpkin production, with million pounds of pumpkin produced. Also, 154 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: the seeds pumpkin seeds are eaten as snacks, roasted, usually 155 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: either by themselves or as ingredients and stuff like like granola. 156 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: They're also processed into seed oil, which can be used 157 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: in cooking, as a health supplement of dubious health property um, 158 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and in beauty products. The global pumpkin seed industry is 159 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: reportedly growing fast. For all y'all investors out there, I 160 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: know there's so many listening and like, I gotta get 161 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: in on this pumpkin business right now. Uh. Pepita's, by 162 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the way, are a type of pumpkin seed that comes 163 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: from a particular varietal of pumpkin that produces seeds that 164 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: do not have holes. Um. So, so they're the little 165 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: green kind of thing. That's a that's a holeless pumpkin seed. 166 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: The white variety that you'd find in your carving pumpkins 167 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: have the hall on them. That's the whole party. Um. 168 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: They're especially popular in Mexico, where where cucabita peppo originated 169 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: as both a snack and a recipe ingredient um, either 170 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: whole or ground up into a nice little paste. I 171 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: do love pumpkin seeds. Oh yeah. We have to have 172 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: a sweet recipe and a savory recipe. Very good. I've 173 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: never made a sweet recipe work anyway anyway. Yes, Also, 174 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: the can pumpkin is probably mostly not pumpkin. Other squashes, 175 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: yeah at least Yeah, if you look on the back 176 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: it says um but a lot of and a lot 177 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: of instances United States canned pumpkin is some other kind 178 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: of winter squash. Yeah, there's usually a little bit of 179 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: pumpkin in there, but mostly not. Grocery stores are lying 180 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: twists again, surprise, surprise. So that's briefly what pumpkin is. 181 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: But let's talk about the history of pumpkin as a 182 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: food because this is a food show. We're we're also 183 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about the history of 184 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: pumpkins decoration. Well, yeah, I can't not talk about it, 185 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, But first we're going to take a 186 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 187 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. So, the oldest evidence archaeologists have found 188 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: of pumpkins comes from the Wahaka Highlands of Mexico, dating 189 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: back seven thousand, five hundred years, pretty long time, where 190 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: they discovered the domesticated pumpkin seats, and these early pumpkins 191 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: were most likely at smaller and bitterer er, but they 192 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: were really durable and they could survive the winter. Because 193 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: of this, they were probably some of the first crops 194 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: consumed in North America, and the Native Americans would pound 195 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: strips of pumpkin flat and weave them into mats, so 196 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: not just for food, but they would also eat the 197 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: dry stops for consumption. Yeah, pumpkins so interesting. Ye supposedly 198 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: if you if you just boiled them, they tasted quite pleasant. Yeah, 199 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: they'd roast them. They'd roast chunks of pumpkin over fires, 200 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: bake them, dry them, grind them up and use them 201 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: as flour. Very versatile. Um. Pumpkin seats were a favorite 202 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: of the Aztecs and the Mayans would cook the fruit 203 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: into sauces, toast and grind up the seeds and use 204 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: the dried out empty pumpkins to drink out of ours 205 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: bowls or other storage containers which I never considered, but yeah, oh, 206 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: of course totally. Containers shaped huge, huge history of gourds 207 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: as containers love it. With the advent of maze to 208 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: the region, farmers discovered the benefits of the three sisters formation, 209 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: which I'd never heard of. The three sisters here are 210 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: squash maze and beans, and like any good sisters, they 211 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: help each other grow out. It's something good sisters. The 212 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: beans grow up and along the corn stalks, using them 213 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: like a natural trellis, and the bean roots they release 214 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: nitrogen into the soil, which has beneficial for the corn. 215 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: The pumpkins and or squash vines provided shelter for the 216 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: roots and kept the moisture in the soil. It sounds 217 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: like a pretty sweet set up to me. Absolutely. When 218 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: the Spanish arrived in the Yucatan in the native people 219 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: served them a dish of corn tor tillas and pumpkin 220 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: sea sauce called food for the Lords. It sounds pretty good. 221 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: The Spanish must have liked it because they took the 222 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: seeds back to Spain where it's spread and diversified and 223 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: lots of New World foods took a while to catch on, 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: like remember the tomato, But the pumpkin was similar enough 225 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: to squashes that already existed in the Old World, but 226 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: kind of had a better flavor, so so it caught 227 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: on pretty much immediately. Yeah, they didn't have to wait 228 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: around popular and this is a roundabout the time the 229 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: word pumpkin first appeared. It originates from the Greek word 230 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: meaning large melon. Makes sense. In fifteen forty seven, the 231 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: English started using pompignons or pompion. I'm saying this is 232 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: the French accent that the English certainly didn't use, but 233 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: it didn't appear in written records until sixty seven, and 234 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: that term comes from the French. Pompillon is yes, the 235 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: French word for for pumpkin um. And it was around 236 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: that time that a bunch of European recipes for pumpkin 237 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: custards began to appear within the lower classes. Anyway, through 238 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds, upper class Europeans referred to pumpkins as ordinary, 239 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: me unsubstantial, and frequently cultivated by the country people who 240 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: plant them upon their dunghills. I'm taking this as a 241 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: personal affront. I am very offended, and I can't understand 242 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: why people keep insulting foods. I just never salted of food, 243 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: been like that food is mean, unsubstantial. I guess I've 244 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: gotten kind of mad at like, I don't know, maybe 245 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: something that I couldn't eat if it's difficult to peel. 246 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I get frustrated, but I don't that pain melon. 247 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Pain melon that was rough, but I mean, I don't 248 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: blame the pain melon. I wouldn't want to get eaten necessarily. Okay, 249 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: well that's fair. Yeah anyway. Um. Once the Pilgrims started 250 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: settling in North America, they wholeheartedly embraced the pumpkin, which 251 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: the Native Americans introduced them too, in part due to 252 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: its hardiness. They used it in desserts and side dishes 253 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: and soups. The pumpkin was the star the first Thanksgiving. 254 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: As evidence spout is sixteen thirty three poem entitled New 255 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: England's Annoyances for pottage and puddings and custards and pies 256 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: are Pumpkins and parsnips are common supplies. We have pumpkins 257 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: at morning and pumpkins at noon. If it were not 258 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: for pumpkins, we should be undoone, which is undone. Yeah yeah, 259 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, but they weren't using it in 260 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: a way most of us are familiar with the pumpkin. Yes, 261 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: the pumpkin. Yes. What they would do is cut off 262 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: the top, move the seeds, and then they'd fill the 263 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: inside its eggs, cream, honey, and other spices. Then they'd 264 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: bury the whole thing in the hot ashes of fire. Wait, 265 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: till it was done. I don't know how they knew, 266 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: but all right, and they scoop out the inside, including 267 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: the pumpkin flesh, and serve it as sort of a custard, 268 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of an early version of the pumpkin pie kind of. Yeah, 269 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't have had apple pie at early probably 270 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: a you know, because squash can grow in a season, 271 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: but decent cooking apples take years and years. As we 272 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: have discussed before, Yes we have. Early New England colonist 273 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: also used the pumpkin for a haircut template. I want 274 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: to know so much about this. They did it to 275 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: make sure they achieved a clean uniform cut, which earned 276 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: which earned them the name the nickname pumpkinheads. I know, 277 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I just don't know how, but anyway, I will look 278 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: into that after this um. In the sixteen seventies, one 279 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: of the first published pumpkin recipes appeared in John Jocelyn's 280 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: New England Rarities discovered. The recipe called for cooking down 281 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: right pumpkin for a day and then adding butter and spices. 282 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. Yeah. Simple. The Pilgrims were also 283 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: known to make pumpkin beer by fermenting it along with maple, sugar, hops, 284 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: and per simmons, and through the seventeen and eighteen hundreds, 285 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: pumpkin was a relatively common ingredient in beers in the 286 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: UH pre United States, I suppose, um, due to its availability, 287 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: whereas malt and hops were a little bit more rare. 288 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Um that there's recipes for mashing out pumpkin juice the 289 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: same way that you would do with apples, then hopping 290 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: and fermenting that juice as you would with a beer, 291 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: and uh for beers that start with malt and hops 292 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: and dried apple and pumpkin plus other stuff like rye 293 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: and birch and other flavorings. There's actually a later verse 294 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: of that pumpkin Louding poem or pumpkin annoyance poem, like 295 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: like why are there all of these effing pumpkins everywhere? Uh? 296 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: That freeds thus lee. If Barley be wanting to make 297 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: into malt, we must be contented and think it no fault, 298 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: for we can make liquor to sweeten our lips of 299 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: pumpkins and parsnips and walnut tree chips liquor to sweeten 300 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: our lips. No, I have to say, I like this 301 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: poem and also pumpkins seems to show up in a 302 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: lot of poems, because we were talking about some more later. Yeah, fun, 303 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: fun thing to look out for. Uh. Pumpkin did fall 304 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: out of prevalent in beer here in the Americas until 305 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties or so in the craft beer movement. 306 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: More about that in a little bit. Yes, speaking of 307 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: pumpkin pie. What about pumpkin pie. Yeah, there were recipes 308 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: for a stud and sweetened pumpkin mixture wrapped in pastry 309 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: all the way back to medieval times. Yeah, a lot 310 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: of the recipes you find in medieval European cookbooks were 311 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: modernized and later prints by replacing squash with pumpkin, because, 312 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: as Lauren said earlier, when pumpkin came around, it was 313 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: kind of a just seen as a tastier replacement for squash. Yeah. 314 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: In sixteenth and seventeenth century England, some of them more 315 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: well off. We're familiar with the type of pumpkin pie 316 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: that sometimes involved stuffing apples into the shell of a pumpkin, 317 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: so using the pumpkin as the coffin in this and 318 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: that it went out of fashion into in the eighteenth century, 319 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: and of note, as the sixteen fifties passage by Edward 320 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: Johnson about a sign of progress in New England being 321 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: that people were eating quote apples, pears, and quin starts 322 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: instead of their former pumpkin pies. So a k. They 323 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: were eating the more civilized European non native not that 324 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: mean unsubstantiated pumpkin Yeah, jeez, tough crowd. However, the eighteen 325 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: hundreds is just about the time that the American columnist 326 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: started the trend of serving a sweetened pumpkin dish at 327 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: holiday gatherings like Thanksgiving. In Amelia Simmons's cookbook American Cookery, 328 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure we mentioned before, had a recipe 329 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: for pumpkin puddings that were baked in a crust similar 330 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: to what we would have today. And there's a fun 331 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: story about a small town in Connecticut in eighteen hundreds 332 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: they postponed Thanksgiving a week to wait out a molasses 333 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: shortage that impacted pumpkin pie. It was so important to 334 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: the meal. They were like, what hold up, Yeah, we're 335 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to put this off for a week every 336 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: and I hope we're all the same page here, because 337 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not doing Thanksgiving without my pumpkin pie. That's blasphemy. 338 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I didn't until recently. I 339 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: actually I love pumpkin but I've only kind of been 340 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: newly introduced to it. Anyway, back to the pumpkin pie. 341 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: It even popped up during the Civil War. This dessert 342 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: was far more near and dear to the hearts of 343 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: New Englanders, and since many of the most outspoken abolitionists 344 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: were from New England, pumpkin pie would feature in some 345 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: of their writings. Lydia Marie Child's eight forty two poem 346 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving in New England ended with the line Hurrah 347 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: for the pumpkin Pie. On top of that, Sarah jo 348 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: Sifa Hale, who as we've mentioned before, is considered the 349 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: mother of Thanksgiving and it's one of my favorite, most 350 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: bizarre things I ever got to work on for stuff 351 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Mom never told you are her story segments, So go 352 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: check that out on YouTube if you if you're interested, 353 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: it's hilarious. She included a brief mention of pumpkin pie 354 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: in her eighteen twenty seven anti slavery novel Northwood Quote. 355 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Yet the pumpkin pie occupied the most distinguished niche after 356 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln designated Thanksgiving a national holiday in eighteen sixty 357 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: three due to this lady's her campaigning campaign. Um uh, 358 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: and he did that. He gave in to this letter 359 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: writing campaign in part as an attempt to heal the 360 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: country after the Civil War. Angry Southerners saw it as 361 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: a way for Northerners to impose their traditions on them. Yeah, 362 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: I know, with one editorial out of Virginia claiming, quote, 363 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: this is an annual custom of that people, heretofore celebrated 364 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: with devout oblations to themselves of pumpkin pie and roast turkey. Wow. Disgusting, 365 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: I know, how dare they? However, with the help of 366 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: recipes and write ups printed in women's magazines, pumpkin pie 367 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: spread throughout the land became a traditional holiday dessert. Its 368 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: status further solidified with the nine introduction of Libbies Canned pumpkin, 369 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: which made pumpkin pie baking all the easier. And by 370 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: the way, Libbies currently dominates the canned pumpkin market North 371 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: America over nine pumpkin monopoly. Quite a corner on the 372 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: market there. Yeah, way to go, Libby's, I guess I suppose. Okay, 373 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: So let's let's step back a bit and look at 374 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: the other holiday pumpkins are associated with Halloween. It's my 375 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: favorite Holida to The earliest jack o lanterns come to 376 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: us courtesy of the Scottish and Irish, who originally carved 377 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: turnips and potatoes. The English might have used beats man. 378 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Then they would put hot coals inside these root vegetables, 379 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: but it sounds kind of difficult. Yeah, you know what 380 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: might be here? Literally anything? Yeah, not literally anything, but 381 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: probably a pumpkin, Probably a big, fat, round pumpkin. When 382 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: European immigrants arrived to the colonies, they saw the cheaper, 383 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: more easily sourced, and more easily carvable pumpkins, and they 384 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: made the switch. I would imagine it didn't take much. 385 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: The first written instance of jack o' lantern in the 386 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: context of a carved fruit or vegetable, by the way, 387 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: was in seven and the pumpkin association first was recorded 388 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty six and etymological note why jack in 389 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: jack o lantern? Well? Since the or so in England 390 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: and later in the United States, the name jack was 391 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: applied as a generic term for any male human person, 392 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: hence Jack of all trades, every man, Jack, Jack the ripper, 393 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: and etcetera. So so Jack o Lantern was just Jack 394 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: of the lantern, like you know, like the dude with 395 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: the lantern. So yeah, fun naming note. Okay for someone 396 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: who loves Halloween. I actually didn't know the myth, the 397 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: story behind the Jack liner. Yeah, so this is super fun. 398 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: This is really fun one to research. Yeah, it's a 399 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: it's a terrific old folk story. Um and it comes 400 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: to us from the seventeenth century Irish tale of Stingy Jack. Yes, 401 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: Stingy Jack. So let's let's set the mood here. Let's 402 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: set the scene. Jack was a drunk and the ultimate manipulator. 403 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: And when Satan, yes that's Satan, got wind of this fella, 404 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: he was a bit jealous. He wanted to prove he 405 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: was superior and evilness and debauchery to this Jack. So 406 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: one night, when Jack was drunkenly stumbling around as he 407 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: was wont to do, he ran into Satan looking to 408 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: collect his soul. Jack convinced Satan to allow him one 409 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: last drink. But when the bill comes to when don't 410 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: you know it, but Jack doesn't have any money. That's 411 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: where the cingey bit comes in. I'm guessing. So he 412 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: convinced the seemingly gullible Satan to turn into a silver 413 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: coin to pay for said drink, but instead Jack pocketed 414 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Satan in his now coin form next to his handy 415 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: crucifix in his pocket so Satan couldn't transform back. Jack 416 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: would only set him free after he convinced Satan to 417 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: leave him and his soul alone for one or ten 418 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: depending which story you look at years. How he had 419 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: this negotiation with a coin that's beyond me anyway, when 420 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: Satan came at the end of their agreed upon term, 421 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: Jack tricked Satan again again by getting him to climb 422 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: a tree for a piece of fruit that Jack wanted 423 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: as his last meal. And then Jack quickly placed a 424 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: bunch of crucifixes to keep Satan up up, stuck in 425 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: the tree like a kitten. I know, kind of adorable, 426 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: and I really want more details on that conversation. How 427 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: did he convince him to climb a tree for this 428 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: piece of fruit? Anyway, this time, Jack bargain with Satan 429 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: to never take his soul to Hades, and what I 430 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: imagine as a hand thrown up type move, Satan agreed 431 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: alas when Jack finally drank himself to death. Years later, 432 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: he was refused entrance into heaven for his deviousness, and 433 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: as for the deal he struck with Satan, he couldn't 434 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: go to Hades either. Satan's still mad about how foolish 435 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: all the trickery had made him look, sentenced Jack to 436 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: wander a never ending night with only a litt coal 437 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: as his light. Jack placed the coal in a hollowed 438 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: out turnip and went about his miserable way for all eternity. 439 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: The Irish gave him the name Jack of the Lantern, 440 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: later shortened to Jack o Lantern and the tradition of 441 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: carving root vegetables, and later the pump in with scary 442 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: faces was meant to frighten stingy Jack and other spirits 443 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: like him away. Oh yeah, that gets you all ready 444 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: for October for the Fall. I love that story so 445 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: much and I can't believe I've never heard it. It's wonderful. Yeah. 446 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: Also also vaguely related to Halloween. Um, if you ever 447 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: have the chance to check out Dellas Morthos Festival, look 448 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: for a sweet treat called Calabaza and it's a soft, 449 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: semi candied pumpkin preparation that involves unrefined sugar syrup and 450 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: guava and cinnamon, and it's studs of the pumpkin fibers. 451 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Soak up all of that flavor. Oh that sounds good. 452 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to check that out. Okay, now I'm 453 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of like spooked out. Here's something to kind of 454 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: bring bring you back. Bring you back. The global pumpkin 455 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: growing competition market uh huh may have been kick started 456 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: by the World's Fair in Paris in nine and the 457 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: showing there of a four hundred pound pumpkin specimen. It's 458 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: about a hundred and eighty one. Wow. Well from there, 459 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: let's jump skip to nineteen o three and the home 460 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: of a large pumpkin cannary, E Sears Canning in Circleville, Ohio. 461 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Each fall farmers whose wagons overfloweth with pumpkins, they would 462 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: make the check to the Canary to get their products canned. 463 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: In response, in nineteen o three, the mayor announced Circleville 464 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: would hold an annual autumn produce festival with pumpkin in 465 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: starring role. During the Great Depression, e Sears Canning was 466 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: forced to shut her its stores, but the festival still 467 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: continues to this day under the name the Pumpkin Show, 468 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: the largest pumpkin festival of its time. There's the largest 469 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: pumpkin contests, largest pumpkin pie contest. I want to be 470 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: involved in that so badly. And a miss Pumpkin pageant. 471 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: I love these like little small festivals are ye, and 472 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: there are as I'm sure you could guests, many many, many, 473 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: many many pumpkin festivals, Pumpkin chunkin the Art and Pumpkin 474 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Festival in California. And there's some amazing, just truly stunning 475 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Jack O'landard displays at a lot of these. I recommend 476 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: looking them up. I want to see one in real 477 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: life so badly. Oh yeah, I have a friend she 478 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: sent me a video of when she was out last year. 479 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I think she was in Salem. Oh man, I was 480 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: so jealous. If you guys have any good photographs of 481 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, send send them on in. Yeah. Um, 482 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: pumpkins is a food meanwhile, we are still a food show. 483 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Um in the United States. Anyway, fell out of fashion 484 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: for a bit between World War One and World War Two, 485 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: but picked up again with the surge in trick or 486 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: treating that came about during the post World War two era, 487 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: which was that Golden Age, when the streets were paved 488 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: with candy and young baby boomers not literally paved, that 489 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: would be griss um. There was another bit of a 490 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: dip in pumpkin eating around here from the nineteen seventies 491 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: through the nineties, as the squash was bred more for 492 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: for carve ability than for a taste and texture. But 493 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: another trend would bring it back from the ashes yet again. 494 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: I wonder what it could be. Well, we'll find out 495 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: after another quick break for a word from our sponsor, 496 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. Okay, so it's time 497 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: to talk about pumpkin spice. Pumpkin pie spice. Pumpkin spice. Yes, 498 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: that whole uh pumpkin pie flavor, combination of of sweet slash, 499 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: savory squash plus not meg plus cinnamon. Yeah uh. And 500 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: I bet a lot of you can guess what started 501 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: this trend. The two thousand three release of the Starbucks 502 00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spice Latte. Those PSL's yes, trending on Twitter probably 503 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: as we speak. Between launch and Starbucks sold two hundred 504 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: million pumpkin spice lattes. And that that was as I'm 505 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: sure it's a lot more these days. Yeah uh. And 506 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: that's extra not bad for a product that Starbucks wasn't 507 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: even sure about to begin with, UM, given that the 508 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: flavor overpowers that of coffee and is more easily reproducible 509 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: than high quality coffee, which ostensibly Starbucks wants to be 510 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: known for primarily you would think ostensibly, yes, once it 511 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: caught on, they were like, oh, well that's fine, Yeah, okay, 512 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: we'll just keep going with this one. Sales of pumpkin 513 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: spice flavored products jumped to almost fifty million dollars in 514 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: the United States. Most of that was pumpkin pie filling, 515 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: but Show Bonnie announced that it's limited release A Pumpkin 516 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: Spy Show was the most successful in its history. Yeah, 517 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: my goodness. And here's a number for you. That's the 518 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: increase of pumpkin as an ingredient in beverages since two 519 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: thousand and six, and pumpkin use on menages just beverages, 520 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: And I really do think Starbucks is like but that 521 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: was the pinnacle it all met at this point. Now 522 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: we're still living with the consequences UM, and pumpkin use 523 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: on menus has risen by ten times since two thousands 524 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: and six. A majority of pumpkin spice products sales do 525 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: you take place in the fall, falling between September and November, 526 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: and a survey conducted in found that thirty of the 527 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: little over one thousand of adult participants named pumpkin spices 528 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: the number one flavor they associated with fall. Yeah, it 529 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: makes sense. Sure. In the midst of all of this, 530 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: pumpkin beers have enjoyed some serious seasonal resurgence. Starting two 531 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: thousand four, Seattle brewery Elysian has hosted a Great Pumpkin 532 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: Beer Festival every September and or October, which this year 533 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: will feature over eighty individual pumpkin bruise. Beer Advocate dot com, 534 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: a great website, currently lists one thousand, three hundred and 535 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: ninety nine examples of pumpkin ale having been professionally produced 536 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: and sold worldwide. WHOA, that's a lot. Yeah, many of 537 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: them were probably like one time offerings, but nonetheless like 538 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: pumpkin and or pumpkin spice in general, these beers are 539 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: a divisive. Yeah. Many are just super sweet and or 540 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: super spiced and can arrange in flavor closer to like 541 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: Yankee candle than beer. My current favorite pumpkin beer diss 542 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: comes from the Paste magazine review of Southern Tier Warlock 543 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Imperial Pumpkin Stout, which it said tastes like quote decades 544 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: old easy bake oven brownie mix, rehydrated with lack liquorice, liqueur, 545 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: harsh words. If you have either a favorite brand or 546 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: a favorite diss, right, and let us know. I love 547 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: that you have a favorite diss I've read a lot 548 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: of them. I kind of I'm not a fan of 549 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: pumpkin beer. I have some that I like. I I yeah, 550 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: I like very dry flavored alcohols, so I do too, 551 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 1: and I love pumpkin and it is difficult to get 552 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: a pumpkin beer right. But I have had no bad, 553 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: like a handful that I like. And I do this 554 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: thing every Labor Day weekend where I get summer beer 555 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: and usually pumpkin beer or fall beer, and I say 556 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: goodbye to summer and hello to fall, even though fall 557 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: doesn't technically start thin. That's just my tradition. No, that's lovely. 558 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I thank you. And here is a quick list of 559 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: some of the weird pumpkin items you might encounter in 560 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: the fall. You've got pumpkin spice, marshmallows, peeps, pumpkin spice, yogurt, 561 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 1: pumpkins by sandwich bread, pumpkin spice, popcorn pumpkins spice, chips, 562 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice, almonds, pumpkin spice, morsels, pumpkins spy, sprinkles, pumpkin spicewod, 563 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice, white powder, pumpkins spice areas, pumpkin spice, freada 564 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: cheeny pumpkin spice, go, bonzo beans, and it goes on 565 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: and on. I had to cut myself off. I'm sure 566 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: you guys have seen these products. There's an astonishing amount 567 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: of Yeah, and then we didn't. I mean, if we 568 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: go into like lotions and perfumes as a whole, another thing, 569 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: air fresheners. O. Yeah. Also I stumbled a grass and 570 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: tutorial on how to turn a pumpkin into a beer gang. 571 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: Ohh um that that Great Pumpkin Beer Festival features a 572 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: giant pumpkin every year. Um from their website, a several 573 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: hundred pound pumpkin that is scooped, scorched, filled with Elysian 574 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: pumpkin beer, sealed, conditioned, and then tapped at the fest 575 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: for all to enjoy. Okay, now I want to check 576 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: this out. There are so many things I want to 577 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: see field tripped Seattle. Yes. Also, apparently pumpkin pie kit 578 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: cat bars are coming to the United States this fall. 579 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: I might try one of those. I've had the pumpkin 580 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: pie reesus like my two favorite candy to pumpkin spice. Aside, 581 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: eating pumpkins is actually pretty good for you. Um. I mean, 582 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: you know, before you've added crap tons of sugar and 583 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: cream or butter or whatever into them. Um. Pumpkins are 584 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: high in fiber, They've got a touch of protein, and 585 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: they're low in sugars and fats, which means that they 586 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: are low calorie but super filling. Um. They've also got 587 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: a ton of bated caroteen and are good sources of 588 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of other vitamins and minerals like like vitamin 589 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: C and potassium. Because of the moisture and pumpkin pumpkin puree, 590 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: it can be used as a as a good substitute 591 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: for cooking fats in baked goods, especially quick breads like 592 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: muffins or banana bread type things, and you can make 593 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: your own puree if you want. Carving pumpkins, for example, 594 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: are totally edible, but pie pumpkins are also widely available 595 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: in the United States and have a nicer flavor slash texture. 596 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: Due to their fiber content, pumpkin is also really great 597 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: for controlling both constipation and diarrhea. Uh uh. Fiber gets 598 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: the bowels moving and also absorbs excess water in the bowels. 599 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: For that reason, it's a popular treatment for digestive problems 600 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: and pets. Just a teaspoon or too mixed in with 601 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: your catadog's food can work. Wonders. Yeah, I did come 602 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: across that a lot when I was researching this episode. 603 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, yeah, uh. The seeds are a 604 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: little less healthy, but still a totally decent snack. They're 605 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: they're high in good fats and have a good good 606 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: amount of like high quality proteins um. The type of 607 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: the white holes are a better source of fiber than 608 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: pepitas and thus are a little bit more filling. I 609 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: I always clean the seeds from my carving pumpkins and 610 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: roast them, usually just with a sprinkle of like vegetable 611 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: oil and salt. One of my favorite things. Huh. And 612 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: as we said earlier, you can also eat pumpkin blossoms. Yeah, 613 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: like zucchini blossoms. They're pretty excellent breaded and fried, not 614 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: so healthy, but that's fine. Um. Or you can use 615 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: them the way that you would any other delicate green 616 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: like I think like spinach in a in a super 617 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: a stew. I have three recipes. I go too fairly 618 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: often with pumpkin pumpkin bread I love um, pumpkin enchiladas 619 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: also good, pumpkin enchiladdos good, and pumpkin chili versable it 620 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: is I'm not goodness, okay, okay, So that brings us 621 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: to our culture. Bit yeah, okay. So first pumpkin chuckin, Yes, 622 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: punkin chunkin. Yeah. So in a blacksmith by the name 623 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: of John Ellsworth started what would become the World Champion 624 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: punkin Chicken, an annual event in which growers and engineers 625 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: come together to see who can hurl a pumpkin the 626 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: furthest with neither electricity nor explosives involved, just the brain 627 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: because we can. Yes, the competition claims to be the 628 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: oldest of its kind, and I couldn't find any evidence 629 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: to the contrary. Though the sport has spread the United 630 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: States certainly, and has even popped up in Europe. Teams 631 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: build whatever kind of device they want within the parameters. Catapultster, 632 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: trebishe air cannons and send their weight specified pumpkins of flying. 633 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 1: The industry standards seems to be eight ten pounds per pumpkin. Yeah, 634 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad they've got a standard. Yeah. The record distance 635 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: according to Guinness is just over five thousand, five hundred 636 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: and forty five ft, which is about one thousand six 637 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: so unsubstantial at all. A medieval Europeans take that, huh. Unfortunately, 638 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: the original World Championship is canceled this year due to 639 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: an injury at last year's competition and some pending litigation. 640 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: But we hope that that everyone everyone is mentally and 641 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: physically doing better next year and able to come back 642 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: to us. Yes, and speaking of competitions giant pumpkins, there 643 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: are both regional and global pumpkin growing competitions and they 644 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: are a serious obsession for the growers who enter. Uh. 645 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: Careful genetic cultivation has grown the field explosively in the 646 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: past couple of decades. Just fifteen years ago, one thousand 647 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 1: pounds was this unheard of goal, and now the top 648 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: winners are more than double that. These giant pumpkins can 649 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: grow up to fifty pounds per day per day during 650 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: peak growth season. Apparently, the secrets aside from starting with 651 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: like perfectly cultivated seeds, are pruning your vines to just 652 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: a few fruits, getting the right amount of sun cover, 653 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: feeding and watering them constantly, using friendly fungi to help 654 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: nutrient transfer into the roots, and uh protecting their skins 655 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 1: from cracks and covering them overnight to keep them at 656 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: the right temperature, which just sounds so dear uh using 657 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: using genetics. Some growers and researchers are hoping to push 658 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: growth even further, and there doesn't seem to be an 659 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: eminent end to how big they could get. A paper 660 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: published in the International Journal of Non Linear Mechanics estimated 661 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: that giant pumpkins of the proper shape could hold up 662 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: their own weight up to twenty thousand pounds a k 663 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: a like nine thousand kilograms. No, if I saw twenty 664 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: pound pumpkin, is there a horror movie about this? Because 665 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: if not, there should be. Oh yes, oh, let's write it. 666 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: Oh I can use that jack o lantern myth. Oh 667 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: it'll be so good, uh stingy jack and the twenty 668 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: pound pumpkin. Oh, it's going to be excellent. Look out 669 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: for you guys. Yeah, oh, but yeah, yeah, people get 670 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: so excited about this. There's there's a yearly cruise for 671 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: giant pumpkin growers. Um and and I wanted to kind 672 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: of end this our pumpkin episode on a quote from 673 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: from one such grower. There was an article about these 674 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: competitions in Time magazine and uh. One grower by the 675 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: name of Ron Wallace was quoted as saying, have you 676 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: ever heard anybody say a bad word about a pumpkin? No? 677 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: Pumpkins could solve the world's problems. Honestly, everybody loves the pumpkin. 678 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: They do. And to see one grow that big, my 679 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: heart is warm. It's so sweet. It is Okay, I 680 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: have to say, if I was at a party and 681 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: I overheard someone saying that they grew giant pumpkins, it's 682 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: like a hobby. I'm going to go talk to that first. 683 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: I want to know more about you and your hobby. 684 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you think you can reach twenty pounds? You know? Yeah, 685 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: these are important party conversation topics. They are um and 686 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: you are welcome for learning from us about these party topics. Yeah, 687 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: there's so much we could have impacted in this episode. 688 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: I think the pumpkin spice latte alone Um, it's a 689 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: deep cultural phenomenon, it is, and over on stuff I 690 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: never told you. We did one kind of about the 691 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: assumptions that come with it, like basic thing. Yeah, so 692 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 1: maybe we'll revisit some of this stuff because there's there's 693 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: a lot surprisingly about the pumpkins, about the humble pumpkin, 694 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: I know. And that brings us to the end of 695 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: this classic false the episode. It does. Um, you enjoyed it, 696 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: We we do. Yeah. Um. Oh, if you have any 697 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: pumpkin carvings, oh my gosh, yes, or pumpkin recipes or 698 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: anything to do with pumpkins, I suppose yeah, that's true. 699 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: Somebody did send us a pretty epic pumpkins soup last 700 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: time we did. Oh yeah, I'm really jealous of I 701 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: have a friend who lives up north and they have those, 702 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: um like jack o lanterns, like thousands of them. You know. 703 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: I always want to see one of those. Field trip. Yes, 704 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: if you've been to one, you can send pictures our way, 705 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: and you can do that at our email Hello at 706 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: saberpod dot com. 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