Speaker 1: So I've been getting a lot of friendly pressure from
Speaker 1: a number of different avenues to rejoin social media. And
Speaker 1: I'm coming to both of you because both of you
Speaker 1: know me better than anybody but my wife probably, And
Speaker 1: I'll wake up one day and be like, I want
Speaker 1: to do it. I think it'll be fun. You know,
Speaker 1: I can put out some comedy stuff, which is what
Speaker 1: I want to do, and it'd be a good outlet
Speaker 1: to have that. And then I'll wake up the next
Speaker 1: day and be like, not a chance in hell am
Speaker 1: I ever getting back on social media. And I honestly
Speaker 1: don't know which way I'm leaning.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious for friendly pressuring you.
Speaker 1: I have some friendly pressure from your husband, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have some friendly pressure from my nephews, who are not
Speaker 1: only thinking about it from there, like hey, you know
Speaker 1: they're younger, they're in their twenties. They're like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: this is what you do as as somebody in the
Speaker 1: in the celebrity world quote unquote, although I don't consider
Speaker 1: myself a celebrity, this is what people do social media.
Speaker 1: We if we want jobs or anything. Nowadays, people will say,
Speaker 1: what's your following? There's a financial aspect to being on
Speaker 1: social media. I mean, there's a number of reasons to
Speaker 1: do it, and then I think of like my my
Speaker 1: mental health and anxiety and things like that, and I
Speaker 1: know that it can and also just be a nasty cesspool,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, eh, well, I want.
Speaker 3: To do it. But that the part of the mental
Speaker 3: health thing, because I know that you've always said that
Speaker 3: again in all social media was like really good for
Speaker 3: your mental health. But it seems to me like for me,
Speaker 3: the dangerous, like the bad part of my mental health
Speaker 3: is just scrolling and reading it and being which I
Speaker 3: do anyway, which you do anyway. That's the part, because
Speaker 3: that's what I thought you meant when you would say like,
Speaker 3: oh I tell it's peak of Oh see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that I think you.
Speaker 3: Just would actually be good for you to face because
Speaker 3: I think as long as you're doing something that you
Speaker 3: believe in and you have an authentic presentation of yourself,
Speaker 3: like you know, you know, there was if you end
Speaker 3: up going back on social media in order to try
Speaker 3: and be something that you're kind.
Speaker 4: Of not, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: But if you going on and we're like here's a
Speaker 3: series of funny videos I want to make or talking
Speaker 3: head things I want to talk about or my you know,
Speaker 3: nerd dumb stuff that I'm obsessed with. It can be
Speaker 3: a really fun community, you know, like and I, but
Speaker 3: you still feel pressure, Like I never feel like I
Speaker 3: do enough, Like when I found substack and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I could just start writing essays and publishing poems and stuff.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 3: I loved it for the three months that I was
Speaker 3: doing it, but now I'm like, every time I think
Speaker 3: about it, I'm like, oh, I haven't written anything.
Speaker 4: I haven't published it.
Speaker 6: It's a good job.
Speaker 3: It's becomes a job because it's a you know, so
Speaker 3: you want to make sure that it's something you want
Speaker 3: to wake up and have time and and get like
Speaker 3: energy to put into it and enjoy. And if making
Speaker 3: videos is fun for you and like making you should.
Speaker 1: Just I'd love to do like the add stuff again
Speaker 1: that we started, like the minute long comedy skits.
Speaker 6: To me, that stuff would be super fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think if you could find a way
Speaker 3: to incorporate that into your schedule, Like if I was involved,
Speaker 3: I would be like, let's do once a month we
Speaker 3: come over to your house and shoot like five.
Speaker 4: Skits in a row, right, and when you release them slow. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's do it, dude.
Speaker 6: I think that would be fun.
Speaker 1: Danielle, you're big in the social media world, then you
Speaker 1: know me would you would you be a yay or
Speaker 1: in nay for me joining social media again?
Speaker 2: I would probably be an a which originally you know,
Speaker 2: I told you like the Finsta, and you do have
Speaker 2: a Finsta, which is how you're able to scroll everything.
Speaker 2: And I think, like, you love sending funny memes and videos,
Speaker 2: and I love sending them to you, And I think
Speaker 2: like the maximum amount of joy you're gonna get out
Speaker 2: of it is because I do think at first the
Speaker 2: idea of having I'm gonna record these skits, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have this stuff that I'm gonna do sounds more fun
Speaker 2: than it is than when you actually make the commitment
Speaker 2: to like once a week, I'm gonna put out the
Speaker 2: thing yea, And especially if you want it to be
Speaker 2: topical at all, which is how it's gonna actually help
Speaker 2: make get relevant in the algorithm, like something being on
Speaker 2: some sort of trend. You can't, like, you can't do
Speaker 2: a bunch of evergreen ones and bank them. You could,
Speaker 2: but you're probably going to have to have like a
Speaker 2: consistent shooting schedule, which is going to mean people coming
Speaker 2: over to your house. You're going to want to like
Speaker 2: make sure you look good because you definitely don't want
Speaker 2: to pump videos out into the world where you're like
Speaker 2: unhappy with sure you know the way your hair looks
Speaker 2: or what you're wearing. So now you're going to be
Speaker 2: like focused on do I have what did I wear
Speaker 2: last time? There is? It becomes, you know, a job.
Speaker 2: It becomes a job, and although it can be fun,
Speaker 2: it is a job. And in order to do it well,
Speaker 2: considering we are too old for us to truly know
Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram, how to use like to teach yourself
Speaker 2: really how to be very good at it is nearly impossible.
Speaker 2: So now you're going to want to hire a young
Speaker 2: a young cool who does know what they're doing. They
Speaker 2: know how how much those jobs can be worth, so
Speaker 2: they're not cheap. Now you have like a kind of
Speaker 2: a massive expense that you're putting out, And in order
Speaker 2: to actually make really good money using your social media,
Speaker 2: you have to have a pretty significant following, which will
Speaker 2: probably take a significant amount of time to get to.
Speaker 3: So I see, I would encourage you to only do
Speaker 3: it in the vein of like what is your authentic
Speaker 3: Like if you start chasing algorithms, if you started just
Speaker 3: doing like what you're doing to be more topical, to
Speaker 3: get more clicks. I just feel like that would it
Speaker 3: would work maybe, like you would get more followers and
Speaker 3: have more engagement.
Speaker 4: But I just don't know if.
Speaker 3: That would make you feel good like that. You know,
Speaker 3: that is its own sort of strategy and its own thing.
Speaker 3: But I just knowing you, I would recommend, like, man,
Speaker 3: just just kiss that you think are funny whenever you can. Ye, Yes,
Speaker 3: it'll be work, but hopefully that's work you want to
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 6: Right, I mean that's how I looked at it too.
Speaker 6: It's like I get to start shooting this stuff again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would worry about, you know, because if
Speaker 3: you're still if you still have like feelings of like,
Speaker 3: oh people aren't going to like me, or.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have a doubt always feelings I know, but
Speaker 6: like I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, like I've gotten over that as I've gotten older,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I used to care a lot.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm better, I'm definitely better.
Speaker 3: But It's podcast has really helped me, you know, because
Speaker 3: in terms of the fact that like there's a huge
Speaker 3: segment of our listeners, like you know, and I've read
Speaker 3: the reviews on Apple podcasts, they will just always hate me.
Speaker 3: And at first that made me feel really bad, and
Speaker 3: then I was like, actually, I think they they're accurately.
Speaker 4: Seeing me and hearing me from who I am. They
Speaker 4: just don't like me.
Speaker 3: I can't control that, you know, Like it would be
Speaker 3: so I would be so inauthentic to try and adjust
Speaker 3: to be likable to everybody. I'm like, no, the whole
Speaker 3: point of this podcast is that I am to be
Speaker 3: You're free to be myself. Yeah, and I'm having a
Speaker 3: great conversation with you guys, and like, as long as
Speaker 3: that's respectful, Like you can hate me, I guess all
Speaker 3: you want. But like, okay, you know, I'm comfortable with
Speaker 3: the idea that I'm not going to be loved by everybody,
Speaker 3: which I still feel like, will you you still want
Speaker 3: to be loved by everybody.
Speaker 6: I don't like when people don't like me. I don't
Speaker 6: get it. I don't like that. Yeah, It's like it's
Speaker 6: one of those things that I just want to knock
Speaker 6: on people's doors and be.
Speaker 7: Like, why did you write something negative?
Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. I'm that guy, right, and so
Speaker 6: that's right.
Speaker 1: And so I don't Yeah, yeah, and again I will.
Speaker 1: I'll wake up one morning and be like, yes, I
Speaker 1: want to do this. I want to put out skits.
Speaker 1: It's going to be so funny. And the next day
Speaker 1: I'll be wake up and be like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this.
Speaker 6: There's no way. So yeah, I was curious.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 6: This helped me not at all. I think I think I.
Speaker 3: Think you should do it because I think you have
Speaker 3: time to do the things if you do kids, if
Speaker 3: you had kids in like a hugely busy schedule, I'd
Speaker 3: be like, what.
Speaker 4: Are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Actually, like for you, this work, Like if you were
Speaker 3: literally doing one day a month where you would shoot
Speaker 3: a d D style sketches that made you feel good.
Speaker 6: Yes, dude, yeah you should be doing that.
Speaker 4: Creative that would be so great. It would be work,
Speaker 4: but it'd be great work. Okay, I'd help.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll have you.
Speaker 2: I know people also that you know if you are
Speaker 2: looking for someone to help you with shooting it or
Speaker 2: coming up with concepts or pitching you ideas, even if
Speaker 2: you say, you know, no, I don't want to do
Speaker 2: any of those. Here's some things I do want to do,
Speaker 2: or if you want to send them other people's social
Speaker 2: medias that you enjoy and be like, I like this voice.
Speaker 2: This is ties like reminds me of my voice. I
Speaker 2: would like to start doing stuff like this, like I can.
Speaker 6: I know peeps, Okay, so my favorite peeps are Marshmallow, always.
Speaker 2: Will be, always will be Jensen's too. Welcome to Pod
Speaker 2: Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel.
Speaker 6: I'm rather strong, and I'm at Wilfredell.
Speaker 1: Ready to an out, which I think somebody already has.
Speaker 6: I don't think I.
Speaker 2: Think we can get it back for you. If we're
Speaker 2: going to revisit season seven, we're not doing it alone.
Speaker 2: We're just not that brave. So our goal for the
Speaker 2: next few months is to not only keep up our
Speaker 2: long standing requirements for interview episodes, but also bring others
Speaker 2: down with us. I mean, invite back some good pals
Speaker 2: and favorite contributors to rewatch and give us their opinions
Speaker 2: on the last episodes of the show.
Speaker 6: I'm fine with that as long as it's not Matt Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Before it's all over, what do they remember from the
Speaker 2: beginning of the end, What did they take away from
Speaker 2: those final few weeks and do they have any ideas
Speaker 2: for how we can extend the podcast and fulfill our
Speaker 2: now hefty contractual obligation of that heart. This week, we're
Speaker 2: kicking it off with someone as synonymous with the final
Speaker 2: two seasons of the show as a stuffed lobster. He
Speaker 2: played Jack Hunter.
Speaker 6: Oh god, it is Lawrence, Jess. I got to read
Speaker 6: who's coming on before I get on these.
Speaker 2: Days joining the cast without an audition or a warning
Speaker 2: to the cast after his own show, Brotherly Love, a
Speaker 2: comedy alongside his brothers Andy and Joey, was canceled, he
Speaker 2: would quickly become a fan favorite and an trickral part
Speaker 2: of our crew. It was almost like he had been
Speaker 2: there from the start, reptiles and all. And now next
Speaker 2: year he's hosting a brand new reality show on the
Speaker 2: Lifetime Network alongside his legendary girlfriend and R and b
Speaker 2: icon Chili called Second Chance Love and I can't wait
Speaker 2: to hear all about it. This week to kick off
Speaker 2: season seven, Welcome back to pod Meets World our buddy
Speaker 2: Matt Lawrence. Yes, Hey, everybody you doing It's.
Speaker 7: Good to see you all.
Speaker 2: Good decorated for Chris. I was going to say, we're
Speaker 2: talking to you during the Christmas season. You've got it
Speaker 2: in spades, a fire going.
Speaker 6: You misspelled love? What you misspelled?
Speaker 7: Love?
Speaker 6: Behind you?
Speaker 7: Is it really where it looks?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming back on the podcast.
Speaker 2: We of course have just started season seven, the final
Speaker 2: hurrah for Boy Meet's World, so gracious. It was your
Speaker 2: second season on the show. Do you remember third third
Speaker 2: season on the show. Do you remember anything about going
Speaker 2: into these last few episodes in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 7: You know, I do, I do.
Speaker 5: I I think I was just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 5: getting my getting into stride, getting my sea leg.
Speaker 7: Then it was like done, and I was so bombed,
Speaker 7: you know, it was like.
Speaker 5: We were finally really I was just finally really smoothly
Speaker 5: you know, on the show.
Speaker 7: And I yeah, I was. I was bummed that it
Speaker 7: was coming to an end.
Speaker 5: I just didn't believe it, honestly, I think that that
Speaker 5: was going to be that was going to be it.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's I remember the most.
Speaker 6: You know, we also had just come off we also
Speaker 6: just finished Achy Double hockey Sticks, right, so we had
Speaker 6: just done a movie together, and Matt was there, although
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm sure I didn't talk to you
Speaker 6: about my anxiety when it had hit me, like during
Speaker 6: the movie, so that like you were there for all
Speaker 6: that stuff, and you were there and I met Kila
Speaker 6: and you were that like you were there for all
Speaker 6: of that. And then we started season seven.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you and I by that point had worked
Speaker 1: together non stop for like three years.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think it was ever gonna end, honest, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I really didn't.
Speaker 7: I thought we were working together for the next twenty years.
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to spin a song. We
Speaker 1: we both thought we were going to spin off and
Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah, So it was it was strange, yeaheah, well.
Speaker 3: No, it definitely already like Jack finally feels like just
Speaker 3: a part of the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because like even.
Speaker 3: Even season six, it was like, oh right, right, he's
Speaker 3: Sean's brother, Chet died, you know, it was like which
Speaker 3: part of the show is he in? And I feel
Speaker 3: like season seven, like do we even probably we probably
Speaker 3: don't even talk to each other, Like I don't think
Speaker 3: Sean much. They just let that go and they were like,
Speaker 3: he's just Eric's other guy in the other in the apartment.
Speaker 4: Just the go, just have them do their stuff and
Speaker 4: it works.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, your brothers, I forgot. I don't see
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yet Chet just died last season. I mean, but we're
Speaker 3: never going to reference it again.
Speaker 4: I bet.
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever hang out together offset like, no,
Speaker 2: Will and Will and Matt.
Speaker 6: I mean we did in Canada, but in Canada not really. Again,
Speaker 6: I didn't hang out with Will do anything. I didn't
Speaker 6: do anything.
Speaker 1: I'm very with, very much a homebody and like I
Speaker 1: just especially at that point now, at this point, I was,
Speaker 1: you know, barely functioning.
Speaker 6: But even before that, no, I would I would come
Speaker 6: home and watch TV and go to bed like that
Speaker 6: was Matt.
Speaker 2: Were you aware of Will's the start of Will's anxiety
Speaker 2: during h Double Hockey Sticks and then into the season seven?
Speaker 5: You know, I was aware, but I didn't know the extent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't realize quite what was going on.
Speaker 5: I knew.
Speaker 7: I was just like, oh, you know, it's crazy Will.
Speaker 5: I didn't really, I didn't, you know, I didn't really
Speaker 5: think that much into it. I had also never really
Speaker 5: outside of just being kind of an introvert, I never
Speaker 5: really experienced it. But I've I have more compassion for
Speaker 5: it now because I've had now periods in my life
Speaker 5: will I've experienced that sort of anxiety and gone through it.
Speaker 5: So now I have a lot more compassion. Sorry, I
Speaker 5: didn't have more than back then.
Speaker 6: No, nobody, no, I didn't. Nobody knew about it, you know.
Speaker 6: One of the things I remember.
Speaker 1: So it was like two days after the first attack,
Speaker 1: two or three days after I had my first attack,
Speaker 1: I was like just gonna try to muscle through it
Speaker 1: and be normal. And you and me, Gabrielle Union and
Speaker 1: the blonde girl who played your girlfriend in the movie
Speaker 1: whose name I Escapes Me. We I at a bar
Speaker 1: and we were trying to I was like trying to
Speaker 1: just like I'm I'm normal, and like trying to drink
Speaker 1: a beer. And I remember nothing had any flavor, nothing
Speaker 1: had any color. It was really a strange moment of like, no,
Speaker 1: I can muscle through it. And I just have this
Speaker 1: image of the four of us sitting at this bar
Speaker 1: and me just then going like I gotta go home,
Speaker 1: and that was it. It was I so strange that
Speaker 1: that image is in my head.
Speaker 6: Wow. But it was just always kind of hanging out there. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't remember remember that. Yeah, it's like not me. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 2: We're only two episodes into season seven and we have
Speaker 2: already seen Will turn the comedy up and be his
Speaker 2: hilarious self. Did he always make it hard not to break?
Speaker 5: Was?
Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like it was easy to act
Speaker 2: opposite Will without feeling like you just had to hold
Speaker 2: it together all the time?
Speaker 5: I mean, no, it wasn't easy not to break, But
Speaker 5: that was the beauty of it.
Speaker 7: I thought it was. There was always every.
Speaker 5: Time I went to work, I knew I was gonna laugh, So,
Speaker 5: you know, thank you Will.
Speaker 7: It was. It was always such a wonderful No, It's true.
Speaker 6: It was always told of us though, because you did.
Speaker 1: You and I were just, especially by season seven, because
Speaker 1: we've seen some of the bloopers and all stuff, you
Speaker 1: and I were actively trying to crack each other up,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times did and a lot of
Speaker 1: times did you know the episode we just it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite deliveries of yours of all time. One
Speaker 1: of the episodes we just saw was the wrestling match
Speaker 1: with Vader in the in the apartment, and it's it's
Speaker 1: Danielle first crushes the can on her head and then
Speaker 1: I do it and knock myself out, and you just go, it's.
Speaker 6: Supposed to be an empty can eric, and your delivery
Speaker 6: is just so perfect.
Speaker 1: So it was Yeah, we were we were both I
Speaker 1: think actively trying to make each other laugh at that point.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. It was a blast.
Speaker 5: I mean it was one of the most enjoyable times
Speaker 5: I've ever had.
Speaker 7: To me sure, it was awesome.
Speaker 2: Are there any Season seven episodes or scenes that that
Speaker 2: really stick out for you in your memory?
Speaker 5: Gosh, man, I mean there's there's death.
Speaker 7: Definitely a bunch.
Speaker 5: It's just they're all kind of like grouped into this
Speaker 5: into like the season itself.
Speaker 7: It's weird.
Speaker 5: It's like there was there was definitely some some incredible moments.
Speaker 5: I you know, I always loved I took the perspective of,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of watching you guys because you guys
Speaker 5: were such a tight knit family and I always got
Speaker 5: such a kick and it just made me feel so
Speaker 5: warm and fuzzy inside watching you guys interact and seeing.
Speaker 7: You know, like I would kind of stand back.
Speaker 5: And it's funny because I had this one moment where
Speaker 5: I wasn't I didn't get you know, to work with
Speaker 5: mister Daniels very often. Yeah, like not at all, Like
Speaker 5: pretty much like anytime I was in a scene with him,
Speaker 5: actually got nervous because it was so few and far between.
Speaker 7: And I remember that the one time.
Speaker 5: We actually got close was was right up at the
Speaker 5: end when you guys were kind of having an emotional
Speaker 5: moment and I'm just standing there kind of taking my
Speaker 5: my position again where I'm just kind of looking at
Speaker 5: you guys and going, oh man, what a what a
Speaker 5: special thing. And I turned into my right there there
Speaker 5: he was standing and he was doing the same thing,
Speaker 5: and we both like caught each other, and that was
Speaker 5: like the one time we bonded. Was how amazing your
Speaker 5: guys relationship really was?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: That was like that was the moment that we we bonded.
Speaker 5: That was like the one and only, so that was.
Speaker 2: An only moment. That's cute.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: What's funny for me to realize, like looking back, is
Speaker 3: how much more experience you had coming onto our.
Speaker 4: Show than any of us.
Speaker 3: You know, like you were you'd already done how many
Speaker 3: sitcoms at this point, like actually been a regular on
Speaker 3: like three right or four. You've been in so many
Speaker 3: movies you've been around the industry so much more. I mean,
Speaker 3: with the exception of Ben, I feel like Ben grew up.
Speaker 3: You know, you started at like seven, but even that
Speaker 3: was he was seven, you were two or whatever, so
Speaker 3: like he was already old.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because when we interviewed you last time, I think we
Speaker 3: talked about you felt the little uncomfortable. You felt like
Speaker 3: you were an outsider coming into an established thing, which
Speaker 3: was the case, but you also were coming in with
Speaker 3: way more experience. I'm so curious how, like now even
Speaker 3: and you've gone to do a bunch more too, but like,
Speaker 3: how what was the Boy meets World set versus other
Speaker 3: sitcom sets?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, what was the vibe?
Speaker 3: I mean we've heard the Michael Jacobs, you know, giving
Speaker 3: you notes story, which we know, yeah, yeah, not great,
Speaker 3: But like in terms of I don't know, I'm just curious,
Speaker 3: like how our set because I don't really I didn't,
Speaker 3: especially then, didn't have anything else to compare it.
Speaker 7: Well. I mean, look, you guys had a great set.
Speaker 7: I mean it was it was. It was an incredible environment.
Speaker 5: It was definitely you know, each has its own unique thing,
Speaker 5: and I think that's that's the tone that's set by
Speaker 5: you know, the people in charge and also the cast
Speaker 5: and you guys had such a great tone. Definitely by far,
Speaker 5: one of the best you guys set. It was just
Speaker 5: so wonderful to be a part of it. And yeah,
Speaker 5: so difference, I'd say it felt more I don't know,
Speaker 5: it felt more like my age group, if that makes
Speaker 5: any Like, it felt like it felt like more of
Speaker 5: like the my high school slash college experience in a way.
Speaker 7: That's what the difference was.
Speaker 5: That if it almost felt more like I in the end,
Speaker 5: like I belonged because of all you guys and because
Speaker 5: we were all very similar ages and then getting along.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it felt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was definitely one of the you know, the
Speaker 5: benchmark sitcoms by far that I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we've heard that from other people too,
Speaker 3: that on other shows that had young people on them
Speaker 3: or kids, that the parents were the main characters or that,
Speaker 3: you know, whereas like in our show completely inverted like.
Speaker 7: The yeah we were the show exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's exactly what the feeling was. It was, and it
Speaker 7: was it was super cool.
Speaker 5: I mean, when I look back on like sitcoms I'm
Speaker 5: been a part of I mean what means world is
Speaker 5: by far the standout.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's nice, that's cool. Take that, Andy and Joey
Speaker 2: take that.
Speaker 5: That was a different Yeah, it was so different. That
Speaker 5: was like family, so there was.
Speaker 7: A lot more stuff wound up in that.
Speaker 5: You know, there was a It was an incredible experience,
Speaker 5: and I was working, but it was like the family business,
Speaker 5: so there was all the family stuff that came into it.
Speaker 7: I was also going through a really awkward phase. It
Speaker 7: was like that thirteen to sixteen year old where.
Speaker 5: Honestly I didn't really even want to be on camera
Speaker 5: at times because I just felt uncomfortable. And so that
Speaker 5: was just a whole different experience, lovely and wonderful, but this.
Speaker 7: Was more like, oh, this is this is this is
Speaker 7: my thing.
Speaker 2: Is you're a young young adult.
Speaker 7: I get to kind of be on my own two feet.
Speaker 7: And then how did.
Speaker 4: So Brotherly Love lasted?
Speaker 5: How long?
Speaker 4: Two seasons or three?
Speaker 5: Three?
Speaker 4: Three? Okay? And how did how did that come together?
Speaker 3: Because you guys were like, I mean I remember hearing
Speaker 3: about like your family as like this, you know, sort
Speaker 3: of industry onto itself.
Speaker 4: So did you guys put that show together or did
Speaker 4: ABC come up with the show and around you guys,
Speaker 4: what was what was the story behind its development?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, so Joe was coming off of Blossom, so
Speaker 5: they were like, let's we wanted to do another show
Speaker 5: with you, and they they didn't know which way to go,
Speaker 5: whether it was going to be like a more adult
Speaker 5: skewed show or more family oriented show. And I know
Speaker 5: my brother, you know, he always sees like mister family
Speaker 5: and mister you know talk about the holidays is like
Speaker 5: mister Christmas.
Speaker 7: He was like, let's do the family.
Speaker 5: Let's get you know, the whole family, brothers and and
Speaker 5: then yeah, and then we developed it a lot of
Speaker 5: those stories, especially the pilot episode, where all of our
Speaker 5: kind of home stories like those were you know, Andy's
Speaker 5: all of Andy's character stuff was was what he was
Speaker 5: doing at home at the time. And I was kind
Speaker 5: of the angsy teenager, which we just wrote right in.
Speaker 5: All the stuff about like how I was very uncomfortable
Speaker 5: with the way I would dress all the time, and
Speaker 5: I didn't really want to go out in public a
Speaker 5: lot like that was all very that was all very
Speaker 5: you know, consistent to what was happening at home. So yeah,
Speaker 5: most of that was, like you know, we'd go into
Speaker 5: the writer's room, we'd tell the family stories, and then
Speaker 5: they were kind of woven, you know, by the workers,
Speaker 5: but into a you know, a sitcom format. But yeah,
Speaker 5: they were all authentic family stories.
Speaker 7: They really were.
Speaker 6: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Boy Meets World also took a lot
Speaker 2: of things from all of our personal lives. I mean
Speaker 2: it's funny because on the one hand, you think, like, well,
Speaker 2: that's easy, you're just taking things from But it's also
Speaker 2: the things that make the characters feel so real and
Speaker 2: and that make them feel so authentic and well developed,
Speaker 2: is that they were actual character traits we all had. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to point out because you know, Writer and
Speaker 2: Will called themselves the Dnettes and did a show while
Speaker 2: I was on Dancing with the Stars called Podmeats Twirld.
Speaker 2: No Woman in the World. I'm gonna just go on
Speaker 2: record and say, no woman in the World has three
Speaker 2: better friends than you three, because you two were die
Speaker 2: hard on Pod Meets Tworld and just My Rider Diyes
Speaker 2: and Matt never missed a single week of texting me
Speaker 2: the night of the show and like the next morning
Speaker 2: when he would be watching. Never once I was like,
Speaker 2: how how did I get so lucky. I have no truly,
Speaker 2: I would say it to everyone. Everyone would be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's Will and Ryder. It's so sweet
Speaker 2: to hear them on Pod Meets World. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: and you don't even know the half of it. I've
Speaker 2: also got Matt Lawrence over here, who never misses an episode,
Speaker 2: who's texting me. Oh, I just it was truly, it
Speaker 2: was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: So the three of you, he could learn the steps,
Speaker 1: which I doubt he could, but he could definitely be
Speaker 1: a dan Yette if he could stay with me.
Speaker 2: I know, because you of the three of you, you
Speaker 2: two are the talented dance.
Speaker 1: If you can learn the steps, he could probably be
Speaker 1: a dani Yete as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, first off, I have to say yes, Danielle,
Speaker 5: so proud of you. I know, I look, I I've
Speaker 5: touched my foot in some of these competitions.
Speaker 2: Singer incredible. Yeah, good, thank you good.
Speaker 3: But it was also you never got to see you.
Speaker 3: That was just a weird thing. It was like to
Speaker 3: watch it and I kept and he wanted to watch it,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, yeah, Matt's going to be
Speaker 3: on it. And then I was like but we can't
Speaker 3: tell anybody and we don't ever get to see them.
Speaker 6: We just have.
Speaker 4: It's such a that was a weird dynamic to like wow.
Speaker 5: But either way, my gosh, is it stressful the amount
Speaker 5: of energy and time and there's there's no way you
Speaker 5: try And I tried myself. Okay, I can't get caught
Speaker 5: up in this, you know, and it's impossible not to.
Speaker 7: They may possible not to get caught up, but.
Speaker 4: I want to win so bad, right, you want?
Speaker 7: You want it to go.
Speaker 5: You're like, literally it consumes your entire life.
Speaker 6: Well, I remember seeing you at a convention. At one
Speaker 6: point in the it was like in the middle, I'm like,
Speaker 6: how you doing. You're like, it's killing me.
Speaker 8: My own body was shutting down from the nerves, like
Speaker 8: it was so intense.
Speaker 7: So if it was I knew what you know.
Speaker 5: I didn't know exactly, but I kind of figured what
Speaker 5: you were probably going through. And obviously I care about you, Danielle.
Speaker 5: You're part of my family no matter what. You don't
Speaker 5: see each other, So that was just a natural reaction
Speaker 5: of going like, oh my gosh, I've sort of been
Speaker 5: through a similar It is so darn crazy that I
Speaker 5: just wanted you to know that if in any way
Speaker 5: you know, the support was that was there, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's a it's a it's a crazy experience, and
Speaker 5: you did so incredibly and got the silver lining too
Speaker 5: for me was you two gentlemen's podcast talking about the
Speaker 5: show and going and Rider, I know, I know, how
Speaker 5: like it just was so out of fish, out of
Speaker 5: walk and it was so great to see you and
Speaker 5: relate to you in that way. And then will oh
Speaker 5: my god, guys, that was freaking hilarious see you guys
Speaker 5: like sort of get also wrapped up into way totally hilarious.
Speaker 7: It was the best. I actually loved it, love it was.
Speaker 2: It was really great. It was really great.
Speaker 7: It was super cool.
Speaker 2: Matt, we asked you to watch season seven, episode one,
Speaker 2: Show Me the Love. What were your thoughts on this
Speaker 2: first episode of season seven?
Speaker 7: Uh, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I felt like, especially you Danielle, everyone was very grounded.
Speaker 5: It was it was you know, I was and how
Speaker 5: like it was like this really grounded you know about
Speaker 5: love and breakups.
Speaker 7: And and Eric was very ground.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Eric is a very grounded character.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, for anybody who doesn't remember, we are about to
Speaker 2: get plays with squirrels wearing amish outfits, the prank, warr
Speaker 2: you sneezing, the lottery numbers. That's what we have to
Speaker 2: look forward to for Eric Italian character.
Speaker 4: He does at one point. Yeah, oh that's right.
Speaker 6: I'm Italian at some point too.
Speaker 5: Yeah. It's but it was a serious subject matter, and
Speaker 5: I thought everybody did very, very well with it. I
Speaker 5: thought it was I thought it was well written, and
Speaker 5: I thought it was well performed, and yeah, and then
Speaker 5: obviously and then there's you will.
Speaker 6: Do you do you remember was there was there any
Speaker 6: discussion at all about because they never mentioned why Jack
Speaker 6: and Rachel break up. They're just like, yeah, we broke up. Yeah,
Speaker 6: do you remember any of that? Do you remember like, hey,
Speaker 6: we're not going to keep you guys together anymore, or
Speaker 6: what any of it had to do with anything.
Speaker 7: I have no idea what happened. There, no idea, no clue.
Speaker 7: In fact, it was so strange.
Speaker 5: But we're just sitting at the table and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we broke up, and there's like that was it?
Speaker 3: Well, dude, we probably haven't talked about this because it
Speaker 3: was last season when you guys hooked up. It was
Speaker 3: one of those things that when I saw it coming,
Speaker 3: I was like rolling my eyes, but then I was
Speaker 3: actually kind of rooting for you. Yes, probably the best
Speaker 3: kiss on Boy Meets World History. We've had to watch
Speaker 3: a lot of kissing and like, but you guys actually
Speaker 3: had like.
Speaker 4: Real chemistry, and it was like, oh, these characters, this
Speaker 4: is cool.
Speaker 3: They're like they don't want it, but they do, and
Speaker 3: then they fall in love and then to have it
Speaker 3: just get like completely tossed a lot, but they had
Speaker 3: real chemistry, like it was actually fine, it was a
Speaker 3: good dynamic, and they just completely forgot it.
Speaker 1: Actually, writer, that's a good point because Matt, you haven't
Speaker 1: been on I don't think since we did all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And one of the things we were talking about over
Speaker 1: and over again was especially during the whole chest stuff
Speaker 1: and then Jack and Rachel getting together.
Speaker 6: You were so good, so good.
Speaker 1: You were so good in those storylines because you were
Speaker 1: the guy like trying to hold it together. And then
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but you have that
Speaker 1: breakdown on the couch when you guys finally do kiss
Speaker 1: where it kind of looks like she's taking advantage of
Speaker 1: you at your most vulnerable point.
Speaker 6: It was, but the acting, dude, it was so really great.
Speaker 1: I mean, we a lot of us spent with the
Speaker 1: three of us spent the episode going like, man, Matt's good,
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 6: So you were great last season. I just wanted because
Speaker 6: I we've.
Speaker 1: Seen you in person a bunch, but we haven't had
Speaker 1: you on the show in so long that we just yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you that that we were just
Speaker 1: really really impressed with your performance.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And they basically, no.
Speaker 4: They didn't.
Speaker 3: They never knew what to do with your character, you know,
Speaker 3: And I think it goes back to that first the
Speaker 3: idea of like, oh, let's introduce Shawn's brother, and it's like,
Speaker 3: but we don't need that, you know, And so then
Speaker 3: they were like obviously had more chemistry with Will, so
Speaker 3: then they had to keep ignoring They was like they
Speaker 3: kind of went both directions, and it's like, so they weren't.
Speaker 4: Really right to you.
Speaker 3: And what was so great about last season is that
Speaker 3: you got to have a series of moments where and
Speaker 3: they almost acknowledge it. They're like, oh, right, this guy
Speaker 3: lost his dad too, let's you know.
Speaker 4: And it was it was nice. It was good to see.
Speaker 7: Thanks guys appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we raved about you. You can go back and
Speaker 2: listen to all those episodes. You have a whole season six.
Speaker 2: Send you We'll send you a bullet point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you've got a levy.
Speaker 2: Are you Matt when you watch the episodes? Are you
Speaker 2: comfortable watching yourself? Or do you pick every little thing apart?
Speaker 2: We have all I think grown way more comfortable watching ourselves,
Speaker 2: although maybe not for Will this season. This season is
Speaker 2: the most uncomfortable for him because of the anxiety stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think Writer and I have I've stopped feeling
Speaker 2: weird about it for the most part, Writer, do you
Speaker 2: still feel weird about it?
Speaker 3: I still feel weird about it, but in different ways,
Speaker 3: Like I'm no longer like I can't watch myself because
Speaker 3: I'm insecure. It's more like this is a weird experience.
Speaker 3: Like it's still weird. Don't I remember that moment? I
Speaker 3: remember the way it's felt to say those lines and
Speaker 3: yet to see yourself objectively and be like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's I can never feel like quite settled. I guess
Speaker 3: I'm always is for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm always a little unsettled too, But I have stopped
Speaker 2: being insecure at least, and like really super nitpicky. How
Speaker 2: do you feel watching the showback.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's a good way of putting it.
Speaker 7: You know, that's a great way of putting it.
Speaker 5: The insecurities are not as as a parent, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I still want to be like, you know, you still
Speaker 5: want to go back.
Speaker 7: You're like, wow, if I only knew then when I
Speaker 7: know now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I but I try to take myself out
Speaker 5: of it and just enjoy it because it's so much
Speaker 5: time has passed that it's you know, it's.
Speaker 7: I just try to I just try to enjoy it
Speaker 7: the best that I can.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 5: There's a lot that I would pick apart and want
Speaker 5: to do differently, and you know, but yeah, it is
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 4: And that's actually a really interesting question.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you have a specific answer, like
Speaker 3: what would you do differently besides acting, like besides moment
Speaker 3: to moment like oh I could have hit that moment,
Speaker 3: like because I look back and I'm wondering what how
Speaker 3: would I be on the set of Boy Meets World
Speaker 3: knowing what I know and now easy? Yeah, like I
Speaker 3: I you know, like I now I would be like,
Speaker 3: please can we stop with the drama? Communally and like
Speaker 3: I think I would have advocated more for myself as
Speaker 3: as like a creative and been like I can get
Speaker 3: because like at the time, of course you're just the
Speaker 3: writers of gods. They do everything, you know, and like
Speaker 3: I would much more. I would be in the like,
Speaker 3: oh give me this, give me more of this to do,
Speaker 3: or I would have you know, at the time, I
Speaker 3: sort of checked out and just did what they told
Speaker 3: me to. But do you guys, all three of you,
Speaker 3: do you know what you would do differently or how
Speaker 3: you'd appreciate.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess I you know, it's tough to say,
Speaker 5: right because hindsight's twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: How do you go back and say I would do?
Speaker 5: But and looking back on it now, yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: there's there's stuff I would have done. I think there
Speaker 5: are times I noticed when I was playing the joke
Speaker 5: versus living the joke, and now looking back, I would
Speaker 5: have been like, oh, man, I all I needed to
Speaker 5: do is just kind of lean into the living it more,
Speaker 5: don't play it.
Speaker 7: It would have been funnier. You know.
Speaker 5: That's kind of my biggest critique is that, you know,
Speaker 5: but I mean, also that was the era that we
Speaker 5: were in, so again it's to say, like you did
Speaker 5: need to go for the joke, like you know, so
Speaker 5: it's tough to say, but but yeah, now watching it
Speaker 5: also to can they please put it in the normal format?
Speaker 1: Why is it four to three and super grainy?
Speaker 7: What? Why is that a little digital up?
Speaker 3: I was on the step by Step podcast with Stacy
Speaker 3: and they were filming on film on step by Step
Speaker 3: like they were still doing film.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Why I think so much matters. I think the only
Speaker 1: ones that didn't wear us.
Speaker 4: I think we were the ones that were so compared
Speaker 4: to other shows. It's such a bummer it is.
Speaker 5: I was like, what they got to be able to
Speaker 5: readjust this frame and give it a little something?
Speaker 6: That's horrible? I I don't you know.
Speaker 1: The trite answer is I wouldn't change anything because it's
Speaker 1: made me who I am today.
Speaker 6: It's a stupid answer, but I know.
Speaker 1: But no, I think I would have if I had
Speaker 1: to fight back, it would have been let's have some
Speaker 1: consistency with the character from where I started to where
Speaker 1: I ended is not I've went through thirty seven different
Speaker 1: iterations of Eric, so I probably would have had some
Speaker 1: so and again that is as an actor, as much
Speaker 1: my fault, if not more my fault than it is
Speaker 1: the writer's fault, because I was pushing everything, I was
Speaker 1: ad libbing. I was making it more Jim Carrey. So
Speaker 1: I mean, that's on me. So I think I would.
Speaker 1: I would probably You know what's funny is I most
Speaker 1: people would probably expect me to say I would tone
Speaker 1: down my performance later. No, I would have upped my
Speaker 1: performance earlier. That's what I would done. Early Eric would
Speaker 1: have shown more signs of later Eric as opposed to
Speaker 1: later Eric showing more signs of earl Eric.
Speaker 6: It just makes sense. So that's where I would have
Speaker 6: That's what I would have changed for me.
Speaker 2: It's funny writer hearing you talk about like pushing back
Speaker 2: on some of the drama, because so far in season
Speaker 2: seven only two episodes in. But you are way lighter.
Speaker 2: You're now comedic relief. And to Penga is the drama
Speaker 2: peg and Corey, Yeah, I mean, and not even Corey.
Speaker 6: Corey is just like he's Corey.
Speaker 2: He's just Corey. And to Pega is the one who's
Speaker 2: every every week has the same problem. We're not loving
Speaker 2: Topega this season, Matt. We're not a fan.
Speaker 4: Penga.
Speaker 2: The season of.
Speaker 6: Penga. That's the best. The merchant look like it's just
Speaker 6: it's it's like deputy Dog, but it's the Panga.
Speaker 2: Pega shirt to read Matt.
Speaker 7: One.
Speaker 2: One thing we all definitely agreed on is that we
Speaker 2: are in peak Matt Lawrence in his physical form.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you see you.
Speaker 2: You are standing next to you. You are like a
Speaker 2: specimen of a man on this show, like chiseled from stone.
Speaker 1: I look like the way before picture.
Speaker 2: What was your what was your Were you like really
Speaker 2: into working out and fitness and I mean you still
Speaker 2: are like.
Speaker 6: Pizza in front of me. He'd need an entire working
Speaker 6: every day, I know, but still wuld I would look
Speaker 6: at a turkey sandwich put on five pounds. He'd be like,
Speaker 6: I just ate three pizzas and I look a new ab.
Speaker 7: It was like what.
Speaker 5: Annoying? Yeah, I mean I don't you know, I it's
Speaker 5: funny right again the era I think I was, you know,
Speaker 5: I think it was I just considered a part of
Speaker 5: my job, like right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I didn't you know.
Speaker 5: Sadly too, I was like, this is my appeal, I have.
Speaker 4: No No, that's part of being an actor, man, That's
Speaker 4: part of being an actor. That, like I resisted. I
Speaker 4: was always like, no too, I don't cure what I
Speaker 4: look like. Nobody should care. It's like we're watching you.
Speaker 6: Do you want people to look the job?
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, that's part of it, and so
Speaker 3: just take care of yourself. Man, No, no, that's not
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: One of the other reasons I know that you were
Speaker 1: working out so hard and that you were you the
Speaker 1: way you looked was one of the ways you looked
Speaker 1: because you and I would talk about this all the time.
Speaker 6: You, especially at the time, were a huge Tom Cruise fan.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you wanted to you you were hoping
Speaker 6: that like that's your career trajectory, was like, you know,
Speaker 6: like kind of the actionly cool kind of guy. So
Speaker 6: I remember that too, as you were like, no, that's
Speaker 6: part of it.
Speaker 1: Is there's a reason Tom Cruise is one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old right now and still starring in
Speaker 1: all these movies is because he took takes care of himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I know that was a big thing with
Speaker 1: you as well. Was you were just a big Tom
Speaker 1: Cruise fan.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I I you know, looked up to those guys,
Speaker 5: and I the one thing that kind of always, you know,
Speaker 5: rang in my head was you should always be prepared,
Speaker 5: be prepared for it, trying to catch up. Like even
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant when he used to say, you know, I
Speaker 5: was going to the gym at four am, and then
Speaker 5: at noon and then at you know, five in the afternoon,
Speaker 5: and so years of.
Speaker 7: That, you know, packed up.
Speaker 5: Even the guys that are coming up behind you, there's
Speaker 5: no way they can catch up.
Speaker 7: If they're only gone or they're only.
Speaker 5: Doing it every time, and then so it's like you
Speaker 5: get just so far ahead. So I really looked up
Speaker 5: to the those guys, and so I you know, put
Speaker 5: that and applied that to my life, where I, you know,
Speaker 5: no matter what that it was a lifestyle choice, no
Speaker 5: matter what was going on, whether I was sick, whether
Speaker 5: I didn't have the time, that was it.
Speaker 7: Had to be a priority.
Speaker 5: And it gave me the ability to eat whatever I wanted,
Speaker 5: because you're right, I did eat whatever I wanted.
Speaker 7: But I was also young, you know.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 5: Yeah, young metabolism, Yeah exactly, Yeah, young metabolism working out
Speaker 5: that hard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can eat whatever the heck you want.
Speaker 2: Well, we will, and I especially, we all have some
Speaker 2: fears coming up in the In some of the season
Speaker 2: seven episodes, most notably, both Will and I are kind
Speaker 2: of dreading the episode coming up where we are both fat,
Speaker 2: and also.
Speaker 6: The episode when they pointed out anyway right to the whole.
Speaker 2: Season, the whole season, the whole season, but the episode
Speaker 2: where everyone has to talk about how happen, We're not
Speaker 2: moving forward to that either.
Speaker 4: That's what's so crazy is Yeah, it's so crazy.
Speaker 7: Looking at it now, I'm like, well.
Speaker 2: You're like slightly overweight.
Speaker 4: I know, definitely for you.
Speaker 6: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Definitely I've put on That's the thing that amazed me.
Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about this our first episode, but
Speaker 1: I came on screen and I probably had put on
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five pounds from the time from there.
Speaker 6: No, it might not look like it, but I was.
Speaker 6: But Danielle, you put on six seven pounds.
Speaker 1: Maybe is that I cannot believe.
Speaker 3: That they looked at this Danielle and were like, we
Speaker 3: need to comment on it with an episode.
Speaker 6: That's what I thought is crazy.
Speaker 3: And it's like right because the writers and you know, adults,
Speaker 3: maybe in general, we're comparing you to your eleven year
Speaker 3: old body. Think about how messed up that is, but
Speaker 3: that's what happens with child actors, right, Like it's like
Speaker 3: your preteen self.
Speaker 4: Everything else is like hitted against that. Yeah, it's so unfair.
Speaker 4: It's like it's to happen.
Speaker 3: We're going to get older, that happens, We're going to change,
Speaker 3: our bodies are going to change.
Speaker 4: But like they don't want to hear it.
Speaker 6: People, Do you see that with that with actresses that
Speaker 6: we grew up with that now hit a red carpet
Speaker 6: or something like that, and people are like, they don't
Speaker 6: look exactly like they did when they were nineteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: They look amazing for how they are now. That's the point.
Speaker 6: And so yeah, it's it's weird that it was a
Speaker 6: big nineties thing, totally, it is.
Speaker 5: And I and you know it Actually it's it troubles
Speaker 5: me because I I, you know, I have nieces.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I you know, have a.
Speaker 5: Little bit of a touch with this kind of generation
Speaker 5: now that's in their later teens, and man, it's it's
Speaker 5: again it's so focused on like what can I change
Speaker 5: about my body and my fate surgeries and I'm just like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, this is it's getting pan I.
Speaker 7: Mean, it's is like, you know, I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 5: You know, you got to try to you got to
Speaker 5: try to embrace the aging and age as gracefully as
Speaker 5: you can.
Speaker 7: I don't understand trying to lock yourself.
Speaker 5: But that why, right, you just said it is because
Speaker 5: everybody is the pressure of comparing you to your younger
Speaker 5: self is yeah, which is now game, right, that's there's
Speaker 5: no way to win that one.
Speaker 2: No dea exactly.
Speaker 6: And I think it's probably a lot harder for women
Speaker 6: than it is for men.
Speaker 7: And that's the other thing, Yeah, a lot harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The problem with social media is that it's just extended
Speaker 4: this to.
Speaker 3: Everybody, right, yeah, like it's no longer just it's like
Speaker 3: everybody who's been posting since they were eleven has put
Speaker 3: themselves out in this.
Speaker 4: Light and it's now compared.
Speaker 6: To whatever they're like reading about people in their twenties
Speaker 6: and thirties getting plastic surgery, like are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Teenagers?
Speaker 5: Bro oh, oh, it's so wild, it's so it's wild.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: And there's no doubt also that some of the nineties
Speaker 2: Waft Super Super Super Thinness being very in Yeah, is
Speaker 2: back full force. Yes, and so a lot of that pressure,
Speaker 2: like Matt hearing you talk about your nieces, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, yes, when everything you're taking in online is
Speaker 2: about everyone being so skinny and so thin, and that
Speaker 2: is just it's an obsession. It's a very it's very
Speaker 2: It makes me feel I'm back. I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I remember this feeling. And it's so interesting that we're
Speaker 2: watching season seven at kind of a peak. What for
Speaker 2: what feels like during this time where it feels like
Speaker 2: it's so back.
Speaker 6: But it's also now, especially for women, you're gonna get
Speaker 6: shamed whether you're overweight or too thin. Correct now now
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter what you do. Now it's eat a
Speaker 6: sandwich or you shouldn't eat a sandwich.
Speaker 5: It's like, okay, well, how do I what's the exact weight.
Speaker 6: I need to be for you to shut up? It's like,
Speaker 6: I'm just curious what that is?
Speaker 2: Does that give me the number point?
Speaker 6: Because apparently you're not happy no matter what I do.
Speaker 6: It's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so when we think about like that episode
Speaker 2: or the episode, the honeymoon episode, we feel a little like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're a little scared are there any episodes that the
Speaker 2: thought of them you're like a where you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that one, giving like I have PTSD thinking
Speaker 2: about that one. Or do you overall just have an
Speaker 2: overall positive feeling of the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I I have an overall it's just
Speaker 5: positive for me. I don't have like one episode that
Speaker 5: I'm dreading or.
Speaker 6: Aren't we with a monkey? The aren't we with a monkey?
Speaker 6: At one point? Don't you and I have a storyline
Speaker 6: with a monkey?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 7: Yeah, wait what is that? What is the money?
Speaker 6: If memory serves, there's you give me money to deposit
Speaker 6: in the bank and instead I give it to a monkey.
Speaker 2: My gosh, that's all right.
Speaker 1: So that so those are the things I'm dreading is
Speaker 1: the thing, because again I don't I think this is
Speaker 1: where you and I would have conversations a lot about
Speaker 1: how Danielle Ryder and Ben would have these and usually
Speaker 1: Trina would have these storylines like we saw in the
Speaker 1: first couple episodes where they're acting and they're doing it,
Speaker 1: and then you and I were like sneezing the lottery
Speaker 1: numbers and dealing with monkeys, and so that's why I,
Speaker 1: while I don't remember exact storylines except for the monkey one.
Speaker 1: I fear that it's going to be you and I
Speaker 1: this season, like, oh and this is we're doing this again,
Speaker 1: like for this episode.
Speaker 2: That's now that I've seen the mopey A storyline as
Speaker 2: well as I have, I am loving your sneezing the litter.
Speaker 6: Maybe we save it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, thank god you, thank god you do it.
Speaker 2: Because what are your memories of that final tape night?
Speaker 2: Do you remember? I remember just sobbing all all all night.
Speaker 2: Do you remember were you crying as well?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5: I was definitely emotional, you know, especially just because you
Speaker 5: guys were. It was so emotional for you guys, and
Speaker 5: I understood why, and I got caught up into it,
Speaker 5: you know, and it hit me. I think maybe like
Speaker 5: that next we would have been coming back, you know.
Speaker 5: That's what really hit me, as to like dark and
Speaker 5: I don't know, who knows if that will ever happen again,
Speaker 5: And it never did.
Speaker 7: Never, that feeling never.
Speaker 5: Happened again, So it was truly a one off, you know,
Speaker 5: and it was that special. So I definitely felt the
Speaker 5: weight of it, the gravity of the situation for sure.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember this?
Speaker 3: Danielle you were not a part of this, But during
Speaker 3: season seven, we started like a really fancy dinner club.
Speaker 6: Do you guys remember this, yes, of course, three of.
Speaker 4: Us, the three of us in Ben.
Speaker 7: You don't remember this, Matt.
Speaker 6: We just remember we go like we were.
Speaker 3: At some point we realized that none of us had
Speaker 3: been because we were, you know, kids, we had never
Speaker 3: been to like any of the fancy restaurants in LA
Speaker 3: and so we said, once a month, we're gonna pick
Speaker 3: the fanciest like so we went to I do you
Speaker 3: remember that we have Like you were just like, let's
Speaker 3: go have like a fancy night out, and we would,
Speaker 3: and I remember one of them was really expecsive. I
Speaker 3: remember the three of us being or the four of
Speaker 3: us being like, oh god, what did we do? But
Speaker 3: it was a fun thing that we started in the
Speaker 3: Seven Keys, and I totally had forgotten about that until
Speaker 3: I don't know, relatively recently. I was like, we did,
Speaker 3: and we even kept it going after the show. I
Speaker 3: did a little bit in the summer before I moved
Speaker 3: to New York. I remember we did it a few
Speaker 3: more times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so fun, that's so cute. Thanks for the invitation.
Speaker 2: I would love to do that with you.
Speaker 6: You were out partying and having your own life that
Speaker 6: we were.
Speaker 4: You were in Manhattan Beach with so far away.
Speaker 1: You were falling off of buildings and stuff like falling
Speaker 1: off of.
Speaker 2: Six foot brick walls.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh gosh, oh my good.
Speaker 2: You and your brothers have been doing quite a few
Speaker 2: live shows for your own podcast, Brotherly Love. Are you
Speaker 2: surprised by the fact that all of us have still
Speaker 2: been able to have such thriving, albeit different careers thirty
Speaker 2: years after some of our you know, most famous shows
Speaker 2: or experiences were going live or is that surprised you.
Speaker 7: No, I'm not surprised by it. I always you.
Speaker 5: Look, I mean, you guys are infinitely talented. There's no
Speaker 5: reason as to why. I mean, look, we all come
Speaker 5: up come up again. Well, every any actor when you're
Speaker 5: when you start young and you have a lot of success,
Speaker 5: or you have a big hit show or something that's
Speaker 5: a tough hurdle, it's.
Speaker 7: A huge, huge and you know, mainly because.
Speaker 5: I'm even realizing it, which is wild now being on
Speaker 5: the other side and watching a show like Stranger Things. Yeah,
Speaker 5: seeing the kids all grow up and being like I.
Speaker 7: Want them to grow up like they were in the
Speaker 7: first season.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's like exactly what people would do or
Speaker 8: other you know, actors that started as kids, you know,
Speaker 8: you're like, because I think it's just it's sort of
Speaker 8: a reflection on how much time has passed, and I
Speaker 8: don't think people want to see that time passing and
Speaker 8: going wow, if they're.
Speaker 7: Getting if they're growing up, what's happening to me? And
Speaker 7: wha I got?
Speaker 5: You know, it causes stress, So I totally understand it.
Speaker 5: So with those hurdles, you know, I'm just what I'm
Speaker 5: really proud of is that the people that you have
Speaker 5: been able to become because as you know, a lot
Speaker 5: of our peers, you know, have.
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's been, it's been rough, and.
Speaker 5: They've they've fallen into, you know, lives that aren't conducive
Speaker 5: to health and wellness. And so I'm just super proud
Speaker 5: that you guys have been able to get over these
Speaker 5: hurdles and still let your abilities and your talent shine.
Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised.
Speaker 5: I'm just super proud that you know, all of us
Speaker 5: are still here.
Speaker 7: We're living good lives. Yeah, we're healthy, you know.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm proud of all you guys. That that's
Speaker 5: what really gets me.
Speaker 2: Well, in typical Matt fashion, I wanted to talk about you,
Speaker 2: your family, your podcast, your live shows, and you ended
Speaker 2: up making it. You turned around and said, but it's
Speaker 2: you guys. You guys, you guys. So I'm just going
Speaker 2: to be even more direct. Can we please talk about
Speaker 2: your wonderful podcast and your live shows that I was
Speaker 2: fortunate enough to be a guest on there, and I
Speaker 2: told the guy.
Speaker 5: Fortunate you to bail this out, so I was like,
Speaker 5: please please.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it was just the most random thing.
Speaker 3: When when I found out she had done your live show,
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh my god, they're doing a live show.
Speaker 4: That makes so much sense because you guys actually have talent.
Speaker 4: You actually.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, the Lauren's brother's doing a live show,
Speaker 3: and that's like a man.
Speaker 2: Dat ask me. They were like, how was their live show?
Speaker 2: And I was like, it was so much better than.
Speaker 4: A costume that's our live show.
Speaker 5: Okay. When you do these musical numbers and you want
Speaker 5: to put on this fantastical show, you.
Speaker 6: Need a band overheads.
Speaker 7: Guys, it's don't believe me. It was. It was a
Speaker 7: lot lot.
Speaker 2: I bet, but it paid off, because I don't know
Speaker 2: if it paid off for you guys, but it paid
Speaker 2: off the audience. The audience still paying it off.
Speaker 5: But we entertained the audience for sure, which was the
Speaker 5: most important thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, everyone was very entertained, including my mom and I
Speaker 2: and uh and no, actually my mom wasn't there. Jensen
Speaker 2: was there with me. But I did just just get
Speaker 2: to spend some time with my mom and your brother
Speaker 2: Joe in New York. We were in New York together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Joe and I got to take a picture. We sent
Speaker 2: it to Matt. It was really fun. Yeah. So and
Speaker 2: tell me about tell me a little bit about your podcast.
Speaker 2: How do you guys break up your quote unquote seasons
Speaker 2: of the podcast? What season of the podcast are you in?
Speaker 2: Or do you not do it that way since you're
Speaker 2: not recapping anything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we don't. We don't really do it that way.
Speaker 5: Work like by numbers, just number of shows I think
Speaker 5: we're in that we breached, Like I think we're somewhere
Speaker 5: around like one forty, rounding out fifty episodes something like that.
Speaker 5: So that's how we look at it because we're trying
Speaker 5: to get to five hundred. Okay, that's what I get
Speaker 5: to that's what like, are goal would be to get
Speaker 5: a package of five hundred amazing.
Speaker 2: Is there a particular reason five hundred? Is the goal
Speaker 2: just something you guys set ahead of time or something
Speaker 2: you plan on doing when you reach five hundred.
Speaker 5: No, it's kind of like it's just like a benchmark
Speaker 5: that we kind of set ourselves. I think also in
Speaker 5: the in the you know, the podcast world, it's it's
Speaker 5: interesting you have to have this certain amount of episodes
Speaker 5: that really, you know.
Speaker 1: Are.
Speaker 7: No, that's the right word. I guess they're kind of
Speaker 7: when you when you get like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you have a catalog like that, it just
Speaker 5: makes it more appealing for people to host that. So
Speaker 5: I think we're just like, if we're going to make this,
Speaker 5: you know all kind of payoff in the end of
Speaker 5: the day we each that five hundred benchmark.
Speaker 7: I think it'd be something to be proud of.
Speaker 2: Great. Yeah, well, now you are hosting the reality show
Speaker 2: Second Chance Love for the Hallmark Channel.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you're about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so exciting. What a great gig. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume it's a great gig. I want
Speaker 2: you to tell us. But alongside your girlfriend, the effortlessly
Speaker 2: cool chili. And I know it is set in Sardinia, Italy.
Speaker 2: Does that mean you guys were there too, Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: sick tell us about.
Speaker 7: It, like yeah, like you would normally do.
Speaker 5: We went out there for about three and a half
Speaker 5: four weeks and shot all out and man, Sardinia, I
Speaker 5: can't go.
Speaker 7: I can't say enough about that place.
Speaker 5: There's a reason why it's a blue zone, you know,
Speaker 5: where people really have this extended life expectancy. And it
Speaker 5: really comes down to those those hallmarks that they've come
Speaker 5: across when they study blue zones, and it's the community
Speaker 5: is one and people are good to their neighbors. They
Speaker 5: take time for their friends and family, like it's like Spain.
Speaker 7: In the same way that in the.
Speaker 5: Middle of the day one to three pm ghost Town,
Speaker 5: there is nothing, no rest. Everybody is having lunch with
Speaker 5: their friends, taking time for themselves, doing what they need
Speaker 5: to do in the middle of the day.
Speaker 7: That's just consistent. And the food, guys, Wow, the food
Speaker 7: on another level, I'd put it.
Speaker 5: I don't know when it comes to that type of food,
Speaker 5: that mix of Italian and Mediterranean, there's it's at the
Speaker 5: top of the list I've ever been it's incredible, and
Speaker 5: you can eat pizza and pasta and you don't feel
Speaker 5: bloated and you don't have the problems because.
Speaker 1: It's not there's no chemical there's no chemicals and crap
Speaker 1: in it. It's just natural food. There's like if you
Speaker 1: get pasta there, it's two ingredients. It's like flower and
Speaker 1: water pasta exactly.
Speaker 5: And the flower they've they've milled and ground us. Yeah,
Speaker 5: literally from the fields below the restaurant. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 5: get more natural, and you can feel it like I
Speaker 5: honestly I have trouble with the gluten here in the States,
Speaker 5: and and I don't there.
Speaker 7: I can eat whatever I want it and you don't
Speaker 7: feel it. Like and you're walking. That's the other thing.
Speaker 5: You walk to dinner, you know, the dinner's three hours
Speaker 5: and then you walk home and it's it's it's it's
Speaker 5: an amazing experience. We got chili, and I got close
Speaker 5: with this one restaurant, this restaurant owner and his wife
Speaker 5: to the point where we were hanging out with them
Speaker 5: on the weekends, going on boat rides different islands. Like
Speaker 5: it's very you know, everybody is very warm and welcoming,
Speaker 5: and it's it's spectacular. It was an spectacular experience. The
Speaker 5: show was great, the production team was amazing. Yeah, what
Speaker 5: did you give a key?
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, can you give us a breakdown?
Speaker 6: Like what is the actual show?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: The show is basically they they take five couples that
Speaker 5: you know, knew each other or dated when they were younger,
Speaker 5: and they want to see if it's a second chance.
Speaker 5: It's like that one you always think about type of thing.
Speaker 6: I had that with my wife.
Speaker 1: I mean so when I dated twenty five years ago
Speaker 1: and then and then weren't together for like nine nine,
Speaker 1: ten years and then got back together.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's cool. You had that exactly with my wife.
Speaker 5: So yeah, the whole premise of the show to see
Speaker 5: if these if you know, if if you had any regrets,
Speaker 5: if it's something that can go forward, or if it's
Speaker 5: something that should be left in the past.
Speaker 4: Because so what are they doing? What are they doing?
Speaker 4: Are there games, competitions?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's yeah, there's there's it's more of like I
Speaker 5: would say, just more, Yeah, there's not it's.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like, yeah, there's just like things to do.
Speaker 5: Like we went, I took the guys, we went all
Speaker 5: like go karting or we had a lesson in pasta
Speaker 5: making and then they you know, go out on dates
Speaker 5: and they have time together, whether it's relaxing by a
Speaker 5: pool or going on an adventure.
Speaker 7: It's just it's.
Speaker 6: Just but are they all together? I mean, is there
Speaker 6: a chance that like one couple and another couple.
Speaker 2: And this is how you're going to get willed whopping.
Speaker 6: Over where it's like all of a sudden, like yeah,
Speaker 6: what if? No, I mean like what if like one
Speaker 6: guy falls in love with a girl who's dating another guy.
Speaker 6: Has that ever happened? Or no? Okay, no, no, this
Speaker 6: is not that type of dating show.
Speaker 2: Well no there Hallmark, no good, there's no salacious.
Speaker 6: We all stay stay together, right, I mean there has
Speaker 6: to be. We're just going to be friends, right right?
Speaker 5: No, No, definitely, it's it's the the outcome is is
Speaker 5: very authentic.
Speaker 7: I can just say that authentic. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, we are very excited to watch the show and
Speaker 2: to see more of you in season seven of Boy
Speaker 2: Meets World. So thank you for coming back on with us, Matt.
Speaker 2: We always love seeing you. If we ever have we
Speaker 2: if we have more questions throughout season seven, we're going
Speaker 2: to force you to come back on.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, guys, are you kidding? I want to hang
Speaker 5: out with you guys anyway, So.
Speaker 1: Well, ryder and I'll talk to you just off chain
Speaker 1: without Danielle about fancy restaurant plan.
Speaker 6: It'll be awesome again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Spark, shut up, just leave me out. No girls allowed, men,
Speaker 2: gentlemen tonight, it's not invite her. She won't eat what salad?
Speaker 2: Are you going to.
Speaker 4: Order your chain restaurant whoever you want?
Speaker 1: It's also where men, Danielle, we can order for ourselves.
Speaker 1: You can't take the time to order for you as well?
Speaker 7: What you have to do?
Speaker 6: No, you're not having steak tonight.
Speaker 3: That's a direct reference this season or episode two of
Speaker 3: season seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, episode two, Corey says to Tapanga's dad, look at you.
Speaker 2: Your clothes are not ironed and you've been eating takeout.
Speaker 2: You won't have his wife, no one to cook for him,
Speaker 2: and no one to iron his shirt. O. God is
Speaker 2: so funny. Well, Matt, thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 2: As always, we will see you. Let's let's get together
Speaker 2: though for real. All right? Great, thank you, bye.
Speaker 7: Bye, good.
Speaker 2: Bye. Always so good to see him. He's just a
Speaker 2: ray of sunshine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's annoying. I was just I was just with
Speaker 6: him and his two brothers.
Speaker 1: We were at a small convention and I want to say, Iowa, No,
Speaker 1: Where's Where's Ben's white?
Speaker 2: I was the Indianapolis, Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indian So we were in Indy doing a convention
Speaker 1: in Indiana together and it was just myself next to
Speaker 1: the three guys for the weekend, and we had so
Speaker 1: much fun.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what I said. When I got stuck
Speaker 4: on this flight situation with three of them, I was like,
Speaker 4: I laughed the entire time.
Speaker 6: There's so much fun. They really are. Their dynamic is great.
Speaker 4: It is, and like, you know, I wasn't kidding one.
Speaker 3: I was like it never occurred to me back then
Speaker 3: how much experience they already had.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I still appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Like talking to them now, I'm like, wow, you guys
Speaker 3: are old, like pros, Like he's been in this industry
Speaker 3: and like he's so gracious and like respectful and you know,
Speaker 3: like's the conversations I've had with Matt over the years
Speaker 3: about like how he's approached his career and how he
Speaker 3: has a private life and like boundaries.
Speaker 2: He's so good at that stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in a way that I've always been a complete mess.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think from ninety nine to two thousand and
Speaker 1: one I had worked with the Savages, the Lawrences, and
Speaker 1: the Culkins. Wow, it was like the three kid Master families,
Speaker 1: royalty of all this stuff. So it was just to
Speaker 1: see the dynamics of a family where everybody's kind of
Speaker 1: in the industry and you grow up in the industry.
Speaker 1: It's really it's really interesting to see what some people
Speaker 1: do right, what some people do wrong. And I mean
Speaker 1: the Lawrence is they're all good guys with good heads
Speaker 1: on their shoulders. Not to say the other families aren't.
Speaker 1: I'm just I know them the best and they're Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all great guys.
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