WEBVTT - Wale Interview

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<v Speaker 1>Real, for real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Sharlomagne the Guy. We are the

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club Special Guest Friend to the room, mister Wally,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up up that big ass? Don't you got on

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulder? I'm just you know, I'm in the wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>world like I'm gonna turning into a good guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I like to think of myself as a

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy hill man. I don't think well between them

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<v Speaker 1>like Stone Cold between brock Lessner. Now another album drops? Wait, wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>come on? What did I tell you the gum? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you come here, you don't let somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>tell you to take some gum out your mouth? How

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<v Speaker 1>can you let another woman a woman you not another man?

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<v Speaker 1>Asked you questions? Exactly? Sure, my boss, you ask the questions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>al about nothing is out? I see everybody got their

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<v Speaker 1>profile picks change. The album cover is trending on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel the love? Yeah, remind myself to embrace the love. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the people's champions. You had a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise show at sobs right, and I saw a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people came out to support you there, So you

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<v Speaker 1>just went on Twitter and just tell people come out

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<v Speaker 1>yep yep um. Because I just feel like I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. So you know, like all my

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<v Speaker 1>albums I always did like a big show Webster Hall

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<v Speaker 1>or Rose and whatever, like I wanted to do something

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, let's like not promote nothing, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, the day of the morning, I be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we at. You know that it was

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<v Speaker 1>another risky move, but like just like the wrestling event,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to saying I was risky as hell. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like a like a yeah, I just just did

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<v Speaker 1>a jone like invited all like like Ray Mysterial Razor

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<v Speaker 1>Ramone like all the people that from my childhood like

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<v Speaker 1>and the just mixed it in with like ratchet like

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<v Speaker 1>girls with like Brazilians and stuff like that. Like so

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<v Speaker 1>it was dope like blend of like lacefront girls and

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<v Speaker 1>like straight up yeah yeah, like no, like we've joined

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<v Speaker 1>you while are you grown? You're thirty years old? You

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<v Speaker 1>deal with a lot of reality, always talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great social issues. Why do you believe in wrestling?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a believe um, It's it's like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>improv like you know, you ever like see like whose

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<v Speaker 1>line is it? Anyways? And stuff like that, Like they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking on their toes. So you know when you watch

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<v Speaker 1>a match, like they call in the spots they like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they might be like you know, elbow or

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<v Speaker 1>like or like like they it's like an all sequence

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<v Speaker 1>and they botch. They mess up all the time. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and you gotta think on your toes what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like in any art form that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be on your toes. I'm a fan of and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a piece of it is just like escape

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<v Speaker 1>from like reality. This not hip hop, Like just get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of similarity some rappers. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, something like the like the wahala that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with uh like hip hop. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm a fan. You know obviously when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a child, I was a fan of it, like just

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<v Speaker 1>like believing in it. But like when you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a fan of the business and how it's run,

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<v Speaker 1>How you have an episodic television show that's that never ends,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like they don't have reruns,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have all seasons. Those athletes are in there

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<v Speaker 1>every you know, and they do house shows, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And the storytelling, I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>amazing in it. You know what I'm saying. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>that I could see myself doing as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>writing and being a part of the creative item is

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<v Speaker 1>like storytelling absolutely fell down the second episode. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the wrestle. What did you think about when

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen Snoop wrestle with think that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, That's one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>where I wish I was in the creative room. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to Snoop and the whole hook and having

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<v Speaker 1>a moment thing, but like Snoop throwing a guy over

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, like come on, like up on the giant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if Floyd, if Floyd hit him flushing the

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<v Speaker 1>chin though, you know, like that's still drop him. You

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<v Speaker 1>can still drop him though. But like Snoop, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>he was like Snoop is all of one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty pounds. You know what I'm saying, love dog to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog gonna make that phone call on you. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have done that, But I don't know my dog through

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<v Speaker 1>and over a two hundred and fifty pound man over

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<v Speaker 1>the rope like that. But you know, it's all in

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<v Speaker 1>good fun and you got a lot of love vessel Be.

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<v Speaker 1>You even name dropped him on the album album About Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a staple, that's a cornerstone, Like it's um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like your first initial, like testament um, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like your coronation to the game. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember a lot of people first so OB show.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like, you know, like when it was like

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<v Speaker 1>all of us young artists like those Meds, Wiz Drake

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<v Speaker 1>and all of us, Like I remember everybody coming to

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<v Speaker 1>my SOB show like and it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was kind of the test run to see

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<v Speaker 1>like how my show was going to be outside of DC,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So it's definitely, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a part of our history. You know, it's a part

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<v Speaker 1>of our culture. And you know, I'm just fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be back in that jone like seven years later,

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<v Speaker 1>crushing that jone, Like even though it's a small venue,

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<v Speaker 1>is the energy there was unlike no other would you

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<v Speaker 1>say you And I was asking about the album and

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<v Speaker 1>how it's like episodes with Seinfeld and I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>skits that you've been putting up with him in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio with you and talking about things like matrimony and

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<v Speaker 1>roller coasters and all of that. So what is it

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like different episodes. Yeah, Well essentially it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a it's like he plays my conscious, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like you know, like this guy

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<v Speaker 1>like he's he's plays my conscious in real life of times,

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<v Speaker 1>like as far as like like I get an opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that I would choose to follow or

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to assess myself or like a chin chat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying at times like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a record like The Middle Finger for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry's like, yo, no, people want to talk, like

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<v Speaker 1>let them talk, like you know what I'm saying and

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<v Speaker 1>exactly and it and it's like a template, uh that

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<v Speaker 1>like like a method of development. You know when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in school, you learn how to write like

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<v Speaker 1>a thesis and you have a method of development, and

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<v Speaker 1>like that's how I was writing my records, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was letting it be like a template of where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go and how I'm gonna break down a record

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<v Speaker 1>and I just found my found it found it challenging

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<v Speaker 1>as a writer to execute. But you know, the challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger the challenge, the bigger the reward. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that middle Finger record because that's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite records off the album. What was the convo you

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<v Speaker 1>and Signfit what happened? Because he does say he encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>you to let people talk because they don't believe half

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<v Speaker 1>of what they say. You don't let people talk. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I done it at all, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, when when me and Jerry get

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, we just kind of just let it,

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<v Speaker 1>let it flow. We don't rush it. We don't rush it,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't force it. Like he said so much stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I could make two more albums off of what the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff we talked about if I wanted to. Like so

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<v Speaker 1>it was all like perfect, It was all just laid

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<v Speaker 1>right out there, and you know it just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we go in the studio. We just got Mike's everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and like we just talked like you know, he have

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<v Speaker 1>his coffee, you know, I go outside. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying you let Hi hit a wrinker beforehand, like

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got this brink, I let him. I want it's

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<v Speaker 1>done when it's done. Like you said, you go outside,

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<v Speaker 1>so you smoke a climbentary when you come back in

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<v Speaker 1>it and you're smelling like smoke. What does he say?

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<v Speaker 1>Bubbly time? Like we when when when the liquor start

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<v Speaker 1>coming around like bubbly time And that's when it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to get loose in the studio and we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but he don't got no problem with that obviously. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure Jerry from y'all, he don't want nothing out have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, dang man, you've trying to fronounce me bron

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<v Speaker 1>like but he whatnot? Like like the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 1>like you I'm a young black dude from DC, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to be clearing NBC like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we cleared it. Like Jerry was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he's good on anything. So wow, you do

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<v Speaker 1>it was the album could have been out like four

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, but you know, claring it was a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>was a challenge, but I'm you know, it got done

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<v Speaker 1>and that that that's one of the things that's unprecedented

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I want like hip hop to feel

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<v Speaker 1>pride in that, like knowing that we did that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're bidding for the for the to own the

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<v Speaker 1>rights to sign feel right now and it's like millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars on the table and I just come in

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<v Speaker 1>there and use whatever I want. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money out there on that on that show. And for

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<v Speaker 1>like a young hip hop dude to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>use the show to in in you know, in an

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<v Speaker 1>artistic way like that says a lot about where we

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<v Speaker 1>add as a as a culture. And it's what I

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<v Speaker 1>understand about you. Like you know, you'll say things like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to respect you deserve. Well, who can

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<v Speaker 1>get signed filed to narrate the album? And he did

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<v Speaker 1>it based off the fact that he's a fan, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know. I never really have a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the respect or lack thereof from my peer, like from

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<v Speaker 1>like other entertainers, Like I get a call from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>jay Z came in and said, like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>My thing is more so like the media or like

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<v Speaker 1>the quote unquote gatekeepers that you know that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of make or break or that can help you put

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<v Speaker 1>food on your table and provide the bosses. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>see you, I see Meek Mill tweeted about the album

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys clearly made up. He came to that

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<v Speaker 1>show at SOBS, so so what grill? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get him a whole function. Yeah, let's tell let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. How did you guys, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>finally come together and I know you hadn't spoken, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was no real beef. But now it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>friendship is back. He's a love change makes people get

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<v Speaker 1>another bouncing your step, you know what I'm saying, um now,

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<v Speaker 1>But all in all seriousness, like it's just everybody go

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<v Speaker 1>through with man like we we we were growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in front of like the world. Though I'm the first

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<v Speaker 1>conversation of that initial combo that it was never it

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<v Speaker 1>was never really like a thing. It was just like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>man whatever, Like you know what I'm saying, that changes

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<v Speaker 1>that when you love changes that. I mean, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>and plus it, like you know, he's cleaned He's cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot of things in his life, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as well, like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like blood thicking and water and like you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we're not blood related, but in this industry we blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know what I'm saying, that's my sister. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want this grill, but you got more than

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<v Speaker 1>one grill. He wasting money like I didn't do him.

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<v Speaker 1>Still be but I gotta keep up with him. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>about love. You're in love too now, right? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be, Okay, I actually want to be. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the record matrimony. I want to be. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking when I heard that. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>know you kind of food up and I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>Billboard article when you talked about how you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be married, and I love one day. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I'm willing to, like, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively pursue, but pursueing some regards like you know, like sacrifice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because like, man, are you willing to do sacrifices? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, who want to really

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<v Speaker 1>do this here alone? Like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and I don't like like you know, Mama's be

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<v Speaker 1>off there like oh that's sold all right? Well well okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you you go make that money and go spend it

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<v Speaker 1>alone and see how how much fun that is. But

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<v Speaker 1>last time you were here, you talked about a girl

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<v Speaker 1>that you were dating, and then you said you got

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble after that. Well, women like a woman, A

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<v Speaker 1>woman I got, I got, you know, situation ships, situation chips. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about I got vibes. Okay. In the matchic

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<v Speaker 1>you almost you said you were lost the baby was, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the most difficult times in my

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<v Speaker 1>life because you know, I you know, it was around

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<v Speaker 1>the time my my my cousin passed away and like

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<v Speaker 1>that was my cousin. That was I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 1>with him every day, like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, um carcident and I mean he had a

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<v Speaker 1>he had a he had his firstborn and he passed

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<v Speaker 1>away the day after damn yeah. And it was I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I remember, like yesterday I was in Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>was staying at the Inner Curtinental, and me and all

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<v Speaker 1>my cousins, you know, we was all gathered around like

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<v Speaker 1>we was just no drinking in the hotel. Like man,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta grow up. Man, like you know what, had

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<v Speaker 1>his kids, like we gotta keep the we gotta keep

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. Clicked up, so I gotta start knocking them down,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we lost from the next day and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well we all just kind of they all

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<v Speaker 1>just agreed to just what I'm saying, like whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do, you know, we won't want nothing and in

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<v Speaker 1>his life, you know. But as far as my miscourage, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different when you know, I'm sure I'm sure y'all

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<v Speaker 1>slipped a couple of paths of Goldie or sometimes I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure y'all you know, I don't know. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like I'm sure y'all slips a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>pats of Goalie, made that trip to the June whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it's different when you want to when you

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<v Speaker 1>you got a situation where you found peace and you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready for it, and then you start for it and

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, so when that happened, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>went in a downwards spiral, like a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>started like taking over my life like ten eleven weeks. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so when we did that, Like when that happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you know, because you go from like

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<v Speaker 1>having to tell your parents about it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody like you got like the proper you know, channels

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and then you know names all that other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and like, okay, where I'm gonna move too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be one of them, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, so like yeah, absolutely, And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like immediately you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a person that always wants to know why

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like and like like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about why, like the health wise, I mean, god,

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<v Speaker 1>why you know what I'm saying. So it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was tough to deal with. But then you started, for

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<v Speaker 1>what I read, he said, you started dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>pills and alcohol. I just I started getting into the

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<v Speaker 1>deep end, man. I just you know how I go

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<v Speaker 1>man like, and um, the thing is is like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a person that like just do it to fit in,

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<v Speaker 1>Like i't I'm not, I ain't Like I like just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be this person that is hindering my career,

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<v Speaker 1>like because of the perception of me, Like I don't naturally,

0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't naturally walk around with a smile on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>What can I do to make to put a smile

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<v Speaker 1>on my face? When if we gonna make me come

0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.480
<v Speaker 1>across as lazy and uninterested? What can I take? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>What can I drink to make me give a proper

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<v Speaker 1>you know, energy to towards something that I'm not interested in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you just want to numb it. At some point, you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to be like man, like you know and

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<v Speaker 1>like people are gonna lie. You know, I'm always gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what it really is like you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you start to get consumed and all

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<v Speaker 1>the negative things that people say about you, like it

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<v Speaker 1>do hurt it? Do like we all right, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>all man here. Man, I can fight I really can

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<v Speaker 1>fight it. Like I don't care, like I'm tough like whatever, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but that shit hurt, like via social media, I'm someone

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<v Speaker 1>in general, Like when you hear like you go to

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<v Speaker 1>a radio station and and somebody say, um um, but

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<v Speaker 1>I heard about Shoot you heard what? Like what you are?

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<v Speaker 1>What that that? I didn't want to do five hundred jobs?

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to ninety nine. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like what what you here? Because I know what goes

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<v Speaker 1>on in my Atlantic records. I know how many times

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<v Speaker 1>you got curves. I didn't curve. I did all of

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<v Speaker 1>your interviews and I did all your drops, but you

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<v Speaker 1>what you here, Like you didn't get your your nephews sons,

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<v Speaker 1>cafeteria lunch ladies autograph. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the negative things travel so much faster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so much faster. It's a very interesting comment because

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with the death of your cousin. You had

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<v Speaker 1>a miscash. When people don't know that when you do

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<v Speaker 1>an interview and you come off with an attitude, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's behind the attitude. Like I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>interview in Nordawa. I'm like, damn wiwa. That's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was joking. I was just playing that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you talking because the Nordware joint, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was. The next day, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the comments and we're not even the comments. People are like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you tweet Nordware like that. I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to ask my crew. I'm like what, And

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<v Speaker 1>my man's like, bro, you know, people just don't understand you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm like, because I was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>because he had the mic and like I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to nar Ward interviews. I thought he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>show me like my second grade teacher, Miss Rathbone, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh do you remember missus Rathbone. He was just like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the Goat, here's the Trouble Funk CD. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the Trunk album. Here's a Nigerian c album. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, like I thought I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like something else, but I was like being I

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<v Speaker 1>was to me. I thought I was joking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got his mic and I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>but but like playing with him, but people like you're

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<v Speaker 1>being a jerk to him. I'm like, like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kiss the dude's ass. Like I'm just like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just playing with the dude. Like when I don't play,

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>y'all tell me I'm a shiler. And when I'm playing around,

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<v Speaker 1>you say like, why don't you just see it and

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<v Speaker 1>give a vanilla ass interview? Now, how was it? How

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<v Speaker 1>was your baby moms? How was she coping with the loss? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus a strong girl, man, She's a very strong girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she helped me, you know what I'm saying. She uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she went she uh. I was on the road at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and you know, she went to my mother

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<v Speaker 1>house and you know they had the woman's time, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, And that's the one. While if

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<v Speaker 1>she's the one that helps you when you're down, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one. But I mean there's a lot of things. Things,

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.080
<v Speaker 1>things happen, and you know, think things change up, she

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<v Speaker 1>suck up, and you know who's to save me? And

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<v Speaker 1>hear that person even together anymore? Right? Why why not

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<v Speaker 1>just call off the interview sometime or just be like, yo, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you saved that, bro. I learned that or

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<v Speaker 1>early in the game. See, you know, can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do the label makes time and now it

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<v Speaker 1>looks bad, it makes the ast. What I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I I you guys have and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like ride your jockeing on like that, but like let's

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<v Speaker 1>call a space place. You guys are the coveted morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all earn that you put it together. You you

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<v Speaker 1>earned You earned that from working with Wendy. You earned

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<v Speaker 1>that from putting it works from you. I was having

0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.760
<v Speaker 1>your mixtapes when I was in high school. You you

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<v Speaker 1>earned that doing a serious radio and all that. And

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<v Speaker 1>when y'all came together. It's everybody wants to do this joint.

0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Like there are people that are essentially starting rappers for

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<v Speaker 1>or or entertainers for their their time. There their rub

0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Like in the wrestling world they call it a rub

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<v Speaker 1>when you get somebody from another and like so like

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<v Speaker 1>they're there are people like yoh, like if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get this, then we're gonna badmouth you. We're gonna we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you know what I'm saying, And that's not it

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<v Speaker 1>should be like a mutual respect thing. Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was up last night to like six in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I'm excited to come here because y'all earn

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<v Speaker 1>that like like you know what I'm saying, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it should be. And that's what I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this whole wave of album about Nothing represents, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like power back into the consumer, the people, the fans,

0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that's what j Cole represents. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Drake dropping that secret album out of the blue, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that represents, putting the power back into the people,

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<v Speaker 1>putting the power and like I will never forget this. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I might even told y'all this story before we was

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia doing a little over a tour and Q

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<v Speaker 1>Tip we was on a bus. It was like fire

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<v Speaker 1>side Q Tip and uh like all these like um

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<v Speaker 1>like groups from like the nineties and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I was just peeping game and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just schooling me and stuff and and q Tips said

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<v Speaker 1>dog and the nineties. All we had was the source

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<v Speaker 1>double XL in our album, our work. That's all we

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with. Now, it's so many things in

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<v Speaker 1>avenues and so many things. People use this leverage to

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<v Speaker 1>to show you or to to act like you not

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<v Speaker 1>as important or you know, the gatekeepers like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, And that's unfortunate because it dilutes the

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<v Speaker 1>the media, dilutes media as a whole. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's classism and hip hop? Because I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Big Sean, I said, I feel like it's tears,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have Kendricks, j Coles Drakes and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>second tier. It's like you Sean me, Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think in some regard, I think really

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<v Speaker 1>it's just too though it's like awesome love of hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop and I don't I don't. I don't say that

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<v Speaker 1>as like a, you know, like that's an entertaining show,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's about as real as Empire. Empire. I

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<v Speaker 1>might even have an edge up one as far as like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as delusional people right here, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like I saw Virgie Dollars saying get to

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<v Speaker 1>get Somebody twelfth single, I call him by dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>gay yea, yeah, well okay, I love that exactly. Susan

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 1>features that joint and you can talk about it if

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<v Speaker 1>you watch it and you feel bad that you watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you've been listening to a Yeah, you go listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it all about yourself? Are you saying because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a woman? Yes, absolutely no, but um not, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really rock with Empire. I think, um, the successive Empire

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<v Speaker 1>is directly the hour, our society or our our world,

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 1>our cultures, affinity for the music industry. There's an outright

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<v Speaker 1>like we can make another Empire and it'll be as

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<v Speaker 1>success like you know what I'm saying, Like because people

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.719
<v Speaker 1>want to know the underworkings of the music industry, right,

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>people want to know, like even if it's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ridiculous, I'm not gay battle rap, like you really

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>just battle wrapped and said you sung about your sexual

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<v Speaker 1>orientation and that was your unrealistic that would never happen

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, and what you don you imagine three

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<v Speaker 1>dollars versions like somebody like yes, talented dough man, it

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>was mighty that it was a mighty directly, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that was. But it's it's ridiculous enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>like talked about in the morning, Like you know, when

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I was in middle school, like we had New York undercover.

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<v Speaker 1>That was our joint, like like it was mart and

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>the New York NNA travel and we talk about that.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>So like now everybody, I'm sure the watercol like cooler

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>talk is an empire, and it's it's ridiculous, but it's

0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>very entertaining and the storylines are a little bit overly done,

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>but again it's very very entertaining. That's what you mean

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>when you say it's tids, it's it's the hip hop

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>guys who actually got talent. And then I wouldn't even

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>say talent because I'm sure they said that the girl

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 1>from plays like a lot of instruments. Yeah, and I'm

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not trying to like like there's an indictment on her,

0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm sure there's a like there's producers there

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that play off the delusions and dreams of some of

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>these people on the show, and that right there is

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>sick to me. I think, you know what I'm saying, Um,

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of like dangling, like you know,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you could be famous if you do this, Like you

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like some of that stuff is

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 1>like fringeworthy, like like the diamond strawberry I was. I

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, is this like didn't really leave her

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>daughter at home? No, but like she was like, yeah,

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I just come to the club to say to say

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>hello while they really watches this show. Bro. I've been

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>on the store bus driving, Bro, when you're driving from

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>New Mexico to LA and you have nothing to do,

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>like I'm on iTunes, I want to find something to watch. Please.

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 1>When I hear your album, I hear that you gotta

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of trust issues with females to the

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>shows like that reinforced that oh VH one VH one

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm thinking aboud I said that on the last

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>album Real. I don't like that for everybody. You guys

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>are pretty untrustworthy as well. Of course, conversely, so I

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>love you put out there, what's the symbolism and white

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sneakers man um the vanity and our people we're vain,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it ain't about it ain't about what

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. It ain't about what uh what you're doing,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>about how you're looking, you know what I'm saying. Where

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>they love you for your catalog and uh and everybody

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>got a jersey to play along back then the holes

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>checking for your zappato so even dirty has had some phones,

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's that's that's our life. Like uh,

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>free lunch for everybody, we all free, all come for

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>free lunch. Well, all my friends got Jordans my like

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>my mother was too proud to do to get this

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the government checkers in or government issue joints, like you know,

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>just being African and being in America like that pride

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>is so we meant, you know what I'm saying. So

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why we eating hot dogs and cans of corn

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>at nighttime, like you know what I'm saying. Like, but

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like we come from all these poor environments and all

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of all my peers got Jordans. On the vanity of

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>our people, the pride of our people. The mothers want

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.919
<v Speaker 1>to put their sons. Mothers even want to dress their

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>sons up like the man that left them, you know

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Or mothers want to put some nice

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Jordan John to mask what's really happening, the mask like

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>there is no food and absolutely, and that's the that's

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the core of that that song, you know, Jerry at

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of it, he says, I was wearing white

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>shoes and it makes me happy, and like that's that's set.

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>That's sent off like a whole lot of thinking and

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, wow, you know after yeah, absolutely come

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>up with that now he just he just was talking.

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>That was one of the first things, the first things

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>that I took and I wrote that song last summer.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.679
<v Speaker 1>So we keep up appearances to be happy basics, I

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 1>mean to, we're trying to we're trying to give off

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>an idea about ourselves, you know what I'm saying. And

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it's a vanity and we dine over that ship.

0:26:55.480 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>We're literally dying over to to impress somebody, Like if

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I wear these shoes this, you're gonna perceive me this way,

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But if I wear these shoes,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna you're automatically putting me in this class of

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>individuals that needs to be respected or that needs to

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>be admired adored. You know what I'm saying. That's what

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>these sneakers represent. Absolutely white Snakers is essentially a symbol,

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>symbolic for all things that are material. Your record The Pessimist,

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and I like that record because people think you're a pessimist.

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever tried to power a positive thinking? I

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>really do well, and I got a number in my

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>mind as well. I want this album to do and

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I keep trying to tell myself this is gonna happen.

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I'm grateful for the universe every step

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of the way, all the misfires and all the things

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that happened, and you know, I pray on it, and

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 1>even if I don't, I still want to be thankful

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 1>that you know that I got an open door policy.

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Damn I could come, you know, and I'm one of

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>hip hops. The lead I like to think, you know

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, So I try to, like, you know,

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>do this whole the secret thing like, but I don't

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>want to. I don't want to be delusion. At the

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>same time, you know what, I'm saying I've seen some

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>delusional people in this very seat. So what's the numb look.

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna put that out there because if I don't,

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like, ahh, what happened to you? Leave

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>me alone? Yeah? It's just stick. I mean, we work.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a working product. I come here tell you guys

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>working problems. I'm noticing that, like when you ask the

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>question that guy on that record, he asked the question,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>who am I to change perception? It's all on you,

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>But he changed this perception. People are like it while now,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>which is good. I'm a good guy. I don't know

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>if they's only that I heard them. You're also doing

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>some Nigerian music. I heard a song that you just

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>did recently. Is it something that has been a long time?

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>You see changing that? What is he doing? I want

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to stay. I want to do a longer interview. I

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>want to stay for a whole shift. Can I do that?

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>You should have a wil a day shift the first

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.479
<v Speaker 1>week number don't come back to where you want them.

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You come in and do a whole show. I want

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to come. I just want to I just want to

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>shoot man. Well, let's talk about the Nigerian music that

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you I just heard one song that you did. Is

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>it a whole project that you're gonna do or what's happened? Um? Well,

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of you know, uh like peers

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that that that are you know, successful artists in that

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that arena, and that's something that I definitely want to

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>experiment with and I definitely want to represent and be

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>a part of. So like I could definitely see myself

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>doing that. Um. But you know, at the same time,

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to do a go Go album. That's

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that's probably like my next thing that I want

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to do. And essentially I want to find, like I

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>want to put together a band. Um. I want to

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>get maybe somebody from New York, a couple of kids

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>from DC. I wanted to. I want to have like

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 1>my ANRDP project whereas like I don't have to put

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>as much pressure on myself musically, and I got people

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to work with as far as creating the sounds and

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that and providing like that sound to the

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>world to be able to usher in that sound. Because

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>gos is a dying art it's not it's not what

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it used to be at all. I was gonna ask you,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you know, with with it dying

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>so bad, do you still incorporate that with all your

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>should because if you don't know what go Go Go music

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>is it it's big in DC, Maryland, Virginia. It's more

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of how how would you describe it? Like calling response? Um,

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it's very rich and like percussion and uh, it's really

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like nothing like like no other like you know, um,

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of like saying what his orange looked

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like to a blind person, Like you gotta kind of

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be there to have a lot of influence. And the

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>thing is people don't even know. Uh, they try to

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>tell me what's go go? It's not like yo, why

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't you have to go go? On your last stif

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like Clappers was gog you know what I'm saying,

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>or bait they didn't know bait was go go. You

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It's just bounce beat that go

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>go is evolved and into bounce beat and other subgenres

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>within that that genre. So, um, there's definitely something that

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to do. And you know, like my you know,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 1>my hat goes off to like a lot of the

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.719
<v Speaker 1>DJ's like even like yourself, like you that put together

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>records that can do a compilation of you know, you're

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>organizing this guy on that record or two guys that

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you think would sound dope like, but I still do

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>go sets. The problem is it is like, you know,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing new. I'm not familiar with new stuff. Playing

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the oldest stuff you say, you like right there in

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the early nineties, late eighties, like it ain't really nothing.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So I want to find a way to revolutionize that.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>And also like you know, trying to get some of

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>these guys and some money, Like you know what I'm saying,

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Like some of the guys that that that's Pioneer and

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, go Go, they've been touring the same small

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>earlier for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want to That's it means a lot to

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.719
<v Speaker 1>me to be able to execute something like that for

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the for the town. Let's gets for a second. You

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>always say white rappers get better opportunities than black rappers?

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Is really that simple? Yeah? No, that's I mean, like

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, every time I mentioned this, I get like

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they come from my head, but like like it's just

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is, Like Iggyzel yah, yeah, she

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>she gonna get more opportunities than training they get. They

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>got the same, They rapped the same. I mean, I

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know where you get that that that voice from Australia,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>but that's next hearing or there. They have the same,

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, Tren it may being sold to a little bit,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>why is it at its probably no, I'm just saying

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously Iggy obviously, Iggy obviously was directly influenced by like

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a Jackie Oo or like even a Ti Like you

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, But those opportunities, I'm sure Katie

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Perry is not knocking on Trainer's daughter to work, you

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, And that's kind of weird to me.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I just don't Katie didn't bring out Missy though,

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Stalgia j slow Cloud take this culture now, it's I mean,

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I just my thing is like I just I and

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get all. I gotta dream. I

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta I have a dreaming on y'all. But like, I

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>just really wish there was more equality in our in

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>this sport, because you believe rap I don't want to

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>dominate a black rabbit. Okay, this is what I'm gonna

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you right now, and I don't I know I'm

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna get in trouble one. Please know my heart man

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>talk Well, it's easy for you to say any more. Okay.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>All I'm trying to say is I am a big

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>fan of Sam Smith. I'm a big fan of his.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 1>But that stay with Me record, right, had that been

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 1>sung by a black person, it would not have reached

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>top forty. It's not it's just not that's it's too slow.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>It's what you I mean that that's okay, look at

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>look at the look at the shooting percentage Sand Smith.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Anything he puts out the top forty immediately that's it

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't top forty. They'll they'll, they'll tip, they'll give you

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>all the reasons as to why a successful song in

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the urban area that can't cross over the top forty.

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>But as soon as he makes a record, it's top forty.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, And to people that don't understand top forty

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is there's a direct correlation between top forty and iTunes.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like or exposure, you know

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like the casual music fan that doesn't

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>really that doesn't really go to blogs and it's then

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a third their access is top forty. That's all they know.

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>That's household names. That's why I said white bitches barely

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>known me. I've been grace. I am society, y'alli. You

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, like, and that's that's too bad,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Becky for not knowing who I LA. Is this your

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>damn fault? You know what I'm saying. But at the

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>same time, you guys guys like uh well, unfortunately R

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and B is dying, But like August, I've seen it

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 1>would have sung Stay with Me or have been an

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>urban radio record period. No if fans and butts, there's

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>no way that song was going And people call me crazy,

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 1>But there's some songs that Sam Smith sounds identical to

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Tank I'm too, exactly like Tank, exactly like him, and

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's Tank would have sung some of them songs.

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have they wouldn't have reached that Audi Urban radio,

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, urban radio has been great to me, like

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I and I and I probably wear the flag of

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>like a guy with the most plays on urban radio

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>two times in a row, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, from a from a from

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>a financial standpoint, you would You would obviously want that

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>top forty success because that directly influences your income. Now,

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't speak, gonna ask me because I think he's

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>actually talented. Me, he's very talented. But for the white rappers,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>who I don't feel are as talented as a lot

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>of the black rappers, I think a lot of times

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>they're just novelties. So I'm gonna ask you, would you

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>rather have one year like Macaelmore? Are a ten year

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Malcolmore coming back coming, he coming back onto your ass.

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.919
<v Speaker 1>He probably got records with saying you know what I'm saying,

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's not. But at the same time, at the

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>same time, if you want to talk about rapping, Royce

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to five nine will smoke Malcolm Moore without question, and

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not And the Voice to five nine record will

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>not surface top forty radio, no way, no how. But

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>would you rather have that one year like Mcalmore or

0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>have a ten year career? As a respect, gonna have

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a ten year career longer than Ye's gonna because he

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have to write right, he doesn't have to like, Oh,

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>let me just call Kendrick and say congratulates. Sorry I

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>took your award down. Let me take it though, I

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>still got it. You know what I'm saying, like keep up,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and then like again like we I don't want to

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like I'm walking the fine line of telling the truth

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and somebody saying I'm hating like I mean disclaimer. I

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>enjoy Mlcamore's music. I was well aware of what he

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>was doing before he blew up, and I think he

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>founded Lane. He worked it and he and he did it,

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day, that's all any

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of us could want, you know what I'm saying. But

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's not the same. It's it's

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound like I'm like being like

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a revolutionary trying to be uep of Radio Wars and

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's definitely a black and white situation

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>at Toms, like you're doing a song with Lady Gaga

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>was your way, But I was already experiment. I was

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>already doing d M. I was you know, I dropped

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>on the Justice, I did go go I did, you

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, I was already there trying

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to do things like crossover into path. I like music,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I like I like, I like Christina Agiler sound like

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a black girl. She sounded like I would love to

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>work with her, you know what I'm saying. Or with

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Katie Perry sounding you know, she sounds like a white girl.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I would love to work with her. You know what

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, like like, but that's because I like music.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed the actual art of performing music, you know

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. No, that last I know you got

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to go labels trying to get you know, we know,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we hear. What's up. You're a sneakerhead, huge, the biggest

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I would say influence when it comes to sneakers in

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>this in this industry, where's your own sneaker? That's another

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>thing like I would, I would the people want to

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>wallet shoot from Nike? I mean you, I mean you

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>should you? The people have broken so many sneakers and

0:38:55.440 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>so many styles. When it comes to sneak Sam Smith's

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>where he may not the air Sam Smith is coming out,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Definitely that air Saint Smith is coming out.

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You guess the colorway that Joe, But it's go ahead.

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>The comments expressed by Charlemagne are not necessarily those while

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>has the all offer the game as being bisexual all that.

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm all for equality and people. Now where the wile

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>sneaker man? Do you know? It's something that we discussed,

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, like towards the end of my standard rock Nation,

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>myself and og One and Hove, like we we try

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to kick that door down. Um, you know it's it's

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>just uphill battle though. But I definitely be up to

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, designing, you know, shoes for other clothing lines.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of offers now to do some

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>some one up some one offs. You know, it's something

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that I want to do. But it's something that I'm like,

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm about the culture man, Like I'm not

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>really about the dollar when it comes to that. That's

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>something that I enjoy, you know what I'm saying. Like

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and actually I liked them joining. I like them. I

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>think it's a you know, I you know, when I

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>when I went to Paris to work with him, I

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of stuff he's working on, Like he

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>has a look. He showed me like where he was

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>getting this inspiration from him and it's like nineties. Um,

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the name of the group. I think the

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Youngsters or something like that, Like it was something he

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, and and I saw Claire because I saw

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the look book and I saw you know, like you know,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a the exaggerated like you know, you know yeah,

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And them dudes are like into like the silhouette of

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>how the clothes fit on you and all that stuff,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like they're doing the combat boots and all that. I'm

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>more of a classic person, like give me a good phone,

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the good air Force one, the air Max, and I Gucci,

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 1>but like I'm I'm I'm all for like the preservation

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of like the DJ and the sneaker, like those two

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>things are synonymous with hip hop, Like and me personally,

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I was creative at like Nike or something. I'm giving

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>DJ's shoot deals the same way I'm giving athletes or

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>rappers like that. Are you know, direct lead into the

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>sneaker world. I mean obviously that's where it started on

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. But I just think, you know,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like I saw with my own two eyes how much

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>money Rick Ross made Reebok. You know what I'm saying, Like,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't no new less nowhere. God blessed him, but he didn't.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>He didn't make Reebok that much money. You know what

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And if not for a misinterpreted lyric or

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>something like that, who knows where they reboke would have

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 1>been right now, you know they would. It kind of

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>killed the momentum. Now you recently revealed that you suffered

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>from anxiety. Did you have that before the industry? Nope,

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>damn Nope, not at all. I would. I would. I

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>just freaking have a football game run for two hundred

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and fifty yards and the the the back after the

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>game with all cheerleaders in the newspaper and all that

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and no problems. But you can see hip hop you

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>could be like the football players were getting brilled in

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh Julie greenball top mask with Earth Bard Jay z

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Ari Bardy. No, but it comes from like and it's like,

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, the thing about it is like our people

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they look at like mental stuff as like a weakness,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like and like, you know,

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with people that that have that have

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>real like problems worse than me, because like I was,

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>mindes was low compared to the people like I'm I

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>was in juvenile the Titcher Center in sixth grade all

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the way until I graduated high school. So I grew

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>up with. I literally grew up with people that have

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>real issues, the group home kids to you know, young rapists,

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>all type of wahala was going on when I was

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in school. You know what I'm saying. It was like

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been there, I've seen it, I've seen

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>what you know. Like so like now, like it's almost

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>like God playing a little joke on me, Like I'm

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm I get uncomfortable sometimes in large groups, because this

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is how this is how I break it down. Like

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I go somewhere with my men, and it's like four

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of us. One one go to the bathroom, one go

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>in the car to get something, and one step off

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the use the phone. I'm now saying about myself. I

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>can feel the churning of the thinking of people coming

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 1>ready to come ask me for something or try to

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>manipulate me or try to finagle something from l A

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a walking, breathing, living opportunity for people, and

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>we all are we all are bro Can I get

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>a drop shot? I mean, you know what I'm saying,

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Like we are walking, We are walking, living, breathing opportunities.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think people understand that. I don't think

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>that the world understands what we go through. And I'm

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>not saying to cry for us or what not like

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that because you got carrias all up in your ear

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're doing good. The jealous or something you're doing,

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you're doing all. See, yeah, so don't cry for us.

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.399
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, like nobody knows what our

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>little struggle, Like that's deep if you if you're not

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>strong enough to deal with or you don't have a

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>good core, like it's it's really difficult, like to go

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I think my therapy is this because I actually go

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>away from like like we've come around a lot, but

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I go away from every breakfast club interview feeling like

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I got a weight off because because like you know,

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>y'all family, like you know what I'm saying, at the

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, like we go through it like

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>y'all joke, we joke on each other whatever. But when

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it's all said and done, like I'm sure y'all be like, man,

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I was, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>healthy for everybody, you know what I'm saying. And and

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's ever since I started coming in here

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>being like just letting it go, I just feel better,

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>or like I started my every blue Moon thing where

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I just write a letter to my fans and it's

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.399
<v Speaker 1>essentially like a journal and I just I tell them

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>like yo, like you know what I'm saying today was that,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>like or I'll find a masculine way to say somebody

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>here in my feelings would though somebody I have though,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, they try, they bleed the clock a lot. Man,

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>we're getting straight to them, I mean potatoes and showing

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>appreciated Yeah, I'm sorry. Now, I'm sorry stores right now

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>about nothing. It's called tan on um. That's the hashtag

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter T T A N. Are you subconsciously encouraging

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>people to be darker? No? No, no, we should all

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>be darker though. Yeah, he's looking at you. I'm currently

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>dealing with bleaching rumors. Actually no, but I'll be feeling bad.

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>But when they do that to that man, yeah yeah,

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean but he is the same exact exactly. I

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>give the energy I gotta take back he take. But

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I just know, but you know what I'm saying, Like

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>he like just trying to like out a presentable look,

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.720
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't presentable before.

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Okay, you did it, you did it, you

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>did it, you did it for a reason that you

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.399
<v Speaker 1>did it for a reason, like you know what I'm saying,

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe somebody got in him. He was like, I don't know,

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to do what's what's up? No, I could

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 1>do it. I could do it. No, No, I got it. No, No.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Call Heim just wanted to even I cant like I

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>could be kidding. Plays and gentlemen, it's the breakfast. It's

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the album about nothing.