1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: Real, for real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning everybody is 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Ye, Sharlomagne the Guy. We are the 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Special Guest Friend to the room, mister Wally, 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: what's up up that big ass? Don't you got on 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: your shoulder? I'm just you know, I'm in the wrestling 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: world like I'm gonna turning into a good guy. Okay, 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, I like to think of myself as a 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: bad guy hill man. I don't think well between them 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: like Stone Cold between brock Lessner. Now another album drops? Wait, wait, wait, wait, 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: come on? What did I tell you the gum? Please? 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: Every time you come here, you don't let somebody else 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: tell you to take some gum out your mouth? How 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: can you let another woman a woman you not another man? 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Asked you questions? Exactly? Sure, my boss, you ask the questions. Okay, 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: al about nothing is out? I see everybody got their 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: profile picks change. The album cover is trending on Twitter. 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: You feel the love? Yeah, remind myself to embrace the love. Okay. 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: I want to be the people's champions. You had a 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: surprise show at sobs right, and I saw a lot 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: of people came out to support you there, So you 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: just went on Twitter and just tell people come out 22 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: yep yep um. Because I just feel like I've done 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. So you know, like all my 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: albums I always did like a big show Webster Hall 25 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: or Rose and whatever, like I wanted to do something 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: like all right, let's like not promote nothing, like let's 27 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: just you know, the day of the morning, I be like, yeah, 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: this is where we at. You know that it was 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: another risky move, but like just like the wrestling event, 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: I had to saying I was risky as hell. I 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: had like a like a yeah, I just just did 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: a jone like invited all like like Ray Mysterial Razor 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Ramone like all the people that from my childhood like 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: and the just mixed it in with like ratchet like 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: girls with like Brazilians and stuff like that. Like so 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: it was dope like blend of like lacefront girls and 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: like straight up yeah yeah, like no, like we've joined 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: you while are you grown? You're thirty years old? You 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: deal with a lot of reality, always talk about a 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: lot of great social issues. Why do you believe in wrestling? 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: It's not a believe um, It's it's like it's like 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: improv like you know, you ever like see like whose 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: line is it? Anyways? And stuff like that, Like they're 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: thinking on their toes. So you know when you watch 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: a match, like they call in the spots they like, 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, they might be like you know, elbow or 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: like or like like they it's like an all sequence 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: and they botch. They mess up all the time. And yeah, 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: and and and you gotta think on your toes what 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like in any art form that you have 51 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: to be on your toes. I'm a fan of and like, 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, a piece of it is just like escape 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: from like reality. This not hip hop, Like just get 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: a lot of similarity some rappers. Yeah, you know what 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying, something like the like the wahala that comes 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: with uh like hip hop. You know what I'm saying. 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: But I'm a fan. You know obviously when I was 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: a child, I was a fan of it, like just 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: like believing in it. But like when you get older, 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: like I'm a fan of the business and how it's run, 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: How you have an episodic television show that's that never ends, 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like they don't have reruns, 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: they don't have all seasons. Those athletes are in there 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: every you know, and they do house shows, you know 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the storytelling, I think it's just 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: amazing in it. You know what I'm saying. That's something 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: that I could see myself doing as far as like 68 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: writing and being a part of the creative item is 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: like storytelling absolutely fell down the second episode. Let's get 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: back to the wrestle. What did you think about when 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: you've seen Snoop wrestle with think that I was like, 72 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, That's one of the things 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: where I wish I was in the creative room. I'm like, yo, 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I like to Snoop and the whole hook and having 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: a moment thing, but like Snoop throwing a guy over 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: the thing, like come on, like up on the giant. 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean if Floyd, if Floyd hit him flushing the 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: chin though, you know, like that's still drop him. You 79 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: can still drop him though. But like Snoop, that's like 80 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: he was like Snoop is all of one hundred and 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: forty pounds. You know what I'm saying, love dog to death. 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Dog gonna make that phone call on you. He could 83 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: have done that, But I don't know my dog through 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: and over a two hundred and fifty pound man over 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: the rope like that. But you know, it's all in 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: good fun and you got a lot of love vessel Be. 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: You even name dropped him on the album album About Nothing. 88 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a staple, that's a cornerstone, Like it's um. 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: It's like your first initial, like testament um, and it's 90 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: like it's like your coronation to the game. You know. 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I remember a lot of people first so OB show. 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I remember, like, you know, like when it was like 93 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: all of us young artists like those Meds, Wiz Drake 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and all of us, Like I remember everybody coming to 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: my SOB show like and it was a big deal. 96 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Like it was kind of the test run to see 97 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: like how my show was going to be outside of DC, 98 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's definitely, you know, 99 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: a part of our history. You know, it's a part 100 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: of our culture. And you know, I'm just fortunate enough 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to be back in that jone like seven years later, 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: crushing that jone, Like even though it's a small venue, 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: is the energy there was unlike no other would you 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: say you And I was asking about the album and 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: how it's like episodes with Seinfeld and I saw the 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: skits that you've been putting up with him in the 107 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: studio with you and talking about things like matrimony and 108 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: roller coasters and all of that. So what is it 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be like different episodes. Yeah, Well essentially it's 110 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: a it's a it's like he plays my conscious, you 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know, like this guy 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: like he's he's plays my conscious in real life of times, 113 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: like as far as like like I get an opinion 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: and it's something that I would choose to follow or 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: like I have to assess myself or like a chin chat, 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying at times like you know, 117 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: you got a record like The Middle Finger for instance, 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and Jerry's like, yo, no, people want to talk, like 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: let them talk, like you know what I'm saying and 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: exactly and it and it's like a template, uh that 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: like like a method of development. You know when you 122 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: when you're in school, you learn how to write like 123 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a thesis and you have a method of development, and 124 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: like that's how I was writing my records, Like I 125 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: was letting it be like a template of where I'm 126 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: gonna go and how I'm gonna break down a record 127 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: and I just found my found it found it challenging 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: as a writer to execute. But you know, the challenge, 129 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: the bigger the challenge, the bigger the reward. Let's talk 130 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: about that middle Finger record because that's one of my 131 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: favorite records off the album. What was the convo you 132 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: and Signfit what happened? Because he does say he encouraged 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you to let people talk because they don't believe half 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: of what they say. You don't let people talk. No, 135 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: I don't know I done it at all, but um, 136 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: I just you know, when when me and Jerry get 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: in the studio, we just kind of just let it, 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: let it flow. We don't rush it. We don't rush it, 139 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: we don't force it. Like he said so much stuff. 140 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I could make two more albums off of what the 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: stuff we talked about if I wanted to. Like so 142 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: it was all like perfect, It was all just laid 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: right out there, and you know it just you know, 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: we go in the studio. We just got Mike's everywhere 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: and like we just talked like you know, he have 146 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: his coffee, you know, I go outside. You know what 147 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying you let Hi hit a wrinker beforehand, like 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: y'all got this brink, I let him. I want it's 149 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: done when it's done. Like you said, you go outside, 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: so you smoke a climbentary when you come back in 151 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: it and you're smelling like smoke. What does he say? 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Bubbly time? Like we when when when the liquor start 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: coming around like bubbly time And that's when it starts 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to get loose in the studio and we you know, 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: but he don't got no problem with that obviously. I'm 156 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: sure Jerry from y'all, he don't want nothing out have 157 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: been like, dang man, you've trying to fronounce me bron 158 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: like but he whatnot? Like like the crazy thing is 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: like you I'm a young black dude from DC, Like 160 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be clearing NBC like that. And 161 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: that's what we cleared it. Like Jerry was like, yo, 162 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: make sure he's good on anything. So wow, you do 163 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: it was the album could have been out like four 164 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: months ago, but you know, claring it was a you know, 165 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: was a challenge, but I'm you know, it got done 166 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: and that that that's one of the things that's unprecedented 167 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: and I and I want like hip hop to feel 168 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: pride in that, like knowing that we did that. Like 169 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: they're they're bidding for the for the to own the 170 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: rights to sign feel right now and it's like millions 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: of dollars on the table and I just come in 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: there and use whatever I want. It's a lot of 173 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: money out there on that on that show. And for 174 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: like a young hip hop dude to be able to 175 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: use the show to in in you know, in an 176 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: artistic way like that says a lot about where we 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: add as a as a culture. And it's what I 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: understand about you. Like you know, you'll say things like 179 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: you don't get to respect you deserve. Well, who can 180 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: get signed filed to narrate the album? And he did 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: it based off the fact that he's a fan, right, Yeah, 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: he didn't know. I never really have a problem with 183 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: the respect or lack thereof from my peer, like from 184 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: like other entertainers, Like I get a call from you know, 185 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,119 Speaker 1: jay Z came in and said, like, you know, I'm 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: My thing is more so like the media or like 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: the quote unquote gatekeepers that you know that that kind 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: of make or break or that can help you put 189 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: food on your table and provide the bosses. Well, I 190 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: see you, I see Meek Mill tweeted about the album 191 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: and you guys clearly made up. He came to that 192 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: show at SOBS, so so what grill? You know, I 193 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: gotta get him a whole function. Yeah, let's tell let's 194 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: talk about that. How did you guys, um, you know, 195 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: finally come together and I know you hadn't spoken, but 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: there was no real beef. But now it seems like 197 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: friendship is back. He's a love change makes people get 198 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: another bouncing your step, you know what I'm saying, um now, 199 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: But all in all seriousness, like it's just everybody go 200 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: through with man like we we we were growing up 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: in front of like the world. Though I'm the first 202 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: conversation of that initial combo that it was never it 203 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: was never really like a thing. It was just like 204 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was just like 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: man whatever, Like you know what I'm saying, that changes 206 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: that when you love changes that. I mean, he's just 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: and plus it, like you know, he's cleaned He's cleaned 208 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: up a lot of things in his life, Like I 209 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: mean as well, like at the end of the day, 210 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: like blood thicking and water and like you know, obviously 211 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: we're not blood related, but in this industry we blood. 212 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, that's my sister. So 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't want this grill, but you got more than 214 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: one grill. He wasting money like I didn't do him. 215 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: Still be but I gotta keep up with him. Talk 216 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: about love. You're in love too now, right? No, I 217 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: want to be, Okay, I actually want to be. You 218 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: got the record matrimony. I want to be. That's what 219 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking when I heard that. And then I 220 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: know you kind of food up and I saw the 221 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: Billboard article when you talked about how you want to 222 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: be married, and I love one day. I mean, this 223 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: is something that I'm willing to, like, you know, not 224 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: aggressively pursue, but pursueing some regards like you know, like sacrifice. Yeah, 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: because like, man, are you willing to do sacrifices? Yeah? 226 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, who want to really 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: do this here alone? Like you know what I'm saying. 228 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: Like and I don't like like you know, Mama's be 229 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: off there like oh that's sold all right? Well well okay, 230 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: you you go make that money and go spend it 231 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: alone and see how how much fun that is. But 232 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: last time you were here, you talked about a girl 233 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: that you were dating, and then you said you got 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: in trouble after that. Well, women like a woman, A 235 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: woman I got, I got, you know, situation ships, situation chips. Okay, 236 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: you talk about I got vibes. Okay. In the matchic 237 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: you almost you said you were lost the baby was, Well, 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: that was one of the most difficult times in my 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: life because you know, I you know, it was around 240 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: the time my my my cousin passed away and like 241 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: that was my cousin. That was I mean, that was 242 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: with him every day, like you know what I'm saying. 243 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, um carcident and I mean he had a 244 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: he had a he had his firstborn and he passed 245 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: away the day after damn yeah. And it was I 246 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: mean I remember, like yesterday I was in Um. I 247 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: was staying at the Inner Curtinental, and me and all 248 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: my cousins, you know, we was all gathered around like 249 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: we was just no drinking in the hotel. Like man, 250 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: we gotta grow up. Man, like you know what, had 251 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: his kids, like we gotta keep the we gotta keep 252 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: the kids. Clicked up, so I gotta start knocking them down, 253 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: and you know we lost from the next day and 254 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, well we all just kind of they all 255 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: just agreed to just what I'm saying, like whatever we 256 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: gotta do, you know, we won't want nothing and in 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: his life, you know. But as far as my miscourage, like, 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: it's different when you know, I'm sure I'm sure y'all 259 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: slipped a couple of paths of Goldie or sometimes I'm 260 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: sure y'all you know, I don't know. Yeah, that's what 261 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm sure y'all slips a couple of 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: pats of Goalie, made that trip to the June whatever. 263 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: But um, it's different when you want to when you 264 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: you got a situation where you found peace and you're 265 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: ready for it, and then you start for it and 266 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: you you know, so when that happened, I kind of 267 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: went in a downwards spiral, like a lot of things 268 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: started like taking over my life like ten eleven weeks. Okay, yeah, 269 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: so when we did that, Like when that happened, you know, 270 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: it was like you know, because you go from like 271 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: having to tell your parents about it, and you know, 272 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: everybody like you got like the proper you know, channels 273 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you know names all that other 274 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: stuff and like, okay, where I'm gonna move too, because 275 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be one of them, like you 276 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so like yeah, absolutely, And then 277 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: it's just like immediately you know what I'm saying. So 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: and I'm a person that always wants to know why 279 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like and like like I'm 280 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: not talking about why, like the health wise, I mean, god, 281 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: why you know what I'm saying. So it was it 282 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: was tough to deal with. But then you started, for 283 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: what I read, he said, you started dealing with the 284 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: pills and alcohol. I just I started getting into the 285 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: deep end, man. I just you know how I go 286 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: man like, and um, the thing is is like I'm 287 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: not a person that like just do it to fit in, 288 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Like i't I'm not, I ain't Like I like just 289 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be this person that is hindering my career, 290 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: like because of the perception of me, Like I don't naturally, 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't naturally walk around with a smile on my face. 292 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: What can I do to make to put a smile 293 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: on my face? When if we gonna make me come 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: across as lazy and uninterested? What can I take? Oh? 295 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: What can I drink to make me give a proper 296 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, energy to towards something that I'm not interested in. Yeah, 297 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: you just want to numb it. At some point, you 298 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: just want to be like man, like you know and 299 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: like people are gonna lie. You know, I'm always gonna 300 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: tell you what it really is like you know, when 301 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: when you when you start to get consumed and all 302 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the negative things that people say about you, like it 303 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: do hurt it? Do like we all right, man, we 304 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: all man here. Man, I can fight I really can 305 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: fight it. Like I don't care, like I'm tough like whatever, like, 306 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: but that shit hurt, like via social media, I'm someone 307 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: in general, Like when you hear like you go to 308 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: a radio station and and somebody say, um um, but 309 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I heard about Shoot you heard what? Like what you are? 310 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: What that that? I didn't want to do five hundred jobs? 311 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: I did want to ninety nine. You know what I'm saying, 312 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: like what what you here? Because I know what goes 313 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: on in my Atlantic records. I know how many times 314 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: you got curves. I didn't curve. I did all of 315 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: your interviews and I did all your drops, but you 316 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: what you here, Like you didn't get your your nephews sons, 317 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: cafeteria lunch ladies autograph. Like you know what I'm saying, Like, 318 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, the the negative things travel so much faster. 319 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: It's so much faster. It's a very interesting comment because 320 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the death of your cousin. You had 321 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: a miscash. When people don't know that when you do 322 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: an interview and you come off with an attitude, they 323 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: don't know what's behind the attitude. Like I saw the 324 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: interview in Nordawa. I'm like, damn wiwa. That's another thing. 325 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I was joking. I was just playing that because I 326 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: don't know what you talking because the Nordware joint, like 327 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I was. I was. The next day, I'm looking at 328 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the comments and we're not even the comments. People are like, yo, 329 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: why did you tweet Nordware like that. I'm like, and 330 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: I had to ask my crew. I'm like what, And 331 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: my man's like, bro, you know, people just don't understand you. 332 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, because I was like, I was like, 333 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: because he had the mic and like I was looking 334 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: forward to nar Ward interviews. I thought he was gonna 335 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: show me like my second grade teacher, Miss Rathbone, like, 336 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: oh do you remember missus Rathbone. He was just like, Oh, 337 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: here's the Goat, here's the Trouble Funk CD. I mean, 338 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: here's the Trunk album. Here's a Nigerian c album. And 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like I thought I was gonna 340 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: be like something else, but I was like being I 341 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: was to me. I thought I was joking about it. 342 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: So I got his mic and I was like, huh, 343 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: but but like playing with him, but people like you're 344 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: being a jerk to him. I'm like, like, I'm not 345 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna kiss the dude's ass. Like I'm just like, I'm 346 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: just playing with the dude. Like when I don't play, 347 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: y'all tell me I'm a shiler. And when I'm playing around, 348 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: you say like, why don't you just see it and 349 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: give a vanilla ass interview? Now, how was it? How 350 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: was your baby moms? How was she coping with the loss? Well, 351 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Jesus a strong girl, man, She's a very strong girl. 352 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: Like she helped me, you know what I'm saying. She uh, 353 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: she went she uh. I was on the road at 354 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the time, and you know, she went to my mother 355 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: house and you know they had the woman's time, you 356 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's the one. While if 357 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: she's the one that helps you when you're down, that's 358 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: the one. But I mean there's a lot of things. Things, 359 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: things happen, and you know, think things change up, she 360 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: suck up, and you know who's to save me? And 361 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: hear that person even together anymore? Right? Why why not 362 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: just call off the interview sometime or just be like, yo, look, 363 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad you saved that, bro. I learned that or 364 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: early in the game. See, you know, can't do that. 365 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: You can't do the label makes time and now it 366 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: looks bad, it makes the ast. What I'm trying to say, 367 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I I you guys have and I'm not trying to 368 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: like ride your jockeing on like that, but like let's 369 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: call a space place. You guys are the coveted morning show. 370 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: But y'all earn that you put it together. You you 371 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: earned You earned that from working with Wendy. You earned 372 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: that from putting it works from you. I was having 373 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: your mixtapes when I was in high school. You you 374 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: earned that doing a serious radio and all that. And 375 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: when y'all came together. It's everybody wants to do this joint. 376 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: Like there are people that are essentially starting rappers for 377 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: or or entertainers for their their time. There their rub 378 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: Like in the wrestling world they call it a rub 379 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: when you get somebody from another and like so like 380 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: they're there are people like yoh, like if I don't 381 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: get this, then we're gonna badmouth you. We're gonna we're 382 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: gonna you know what I'm saying, And that's not it 383 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: should be like a mutual respect thing. Like I mean, 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I was up last night to like six in the morning. 385 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: I was I'm excited to come here because y'all earn 386 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: that like like you know what I'm saying, Like it's 387 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: that's how it should be. And that's what I feel 388 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: like this whole wave of album about Nothing represents, like 389 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: it's like power back into the consumer, the people, the fans, 390 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what j Cole represents. That's what 391 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Drake dropping that secret album out of the blue, Like 392 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: that's what that represents, putting the power back into the people, 393 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: putting the power and like I will never forget this. Man. 394 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I might even told y'all this story before we was 395 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: in Australia doing a little over a tour and Q 396 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: Tip we was on a bus. It was like fire 397 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: side Q Tip and uh like all these like um 398 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: like groups from like the nineties and stuff like that, 399 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: and um, I was just peeping game and it was 400 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: just schooling me and stuff and and q Tips said 401 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: dog and the nineties. All we had was the source 402 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: double XL in our album, our work. That's all we 403 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: had to deal with. Now, it's so many things in 404 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: avenues and so many things. People use this leverage to 405 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: to show you or to to act like you not 406 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: as important or you know, the gatekeepers like you know 407 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's unfortunate because it dilutes the 408 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: the media, dilutes media as a whole. Do you feel 409 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: like it's classism and hip hop? Because I was talking 410 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: to Big Sean, I said, I feel like it's tears, 411 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: like you have Kendricks, j Coles Drakes and it's the 412 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: second tier. It's like you Sean me, Well, I mean, 413 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: I think I think in some regard, I think really 414 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: it's just too though it's like awesome love of hip 415 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: hop and I don't I don't. I don't say that 416 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: as like a, you know, like that's an entertaining show, 417 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's about as real as Empire. Empire. I 418 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: might even have an edge up one as far as like, 419 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, as far as delusional people right here, like 420 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't like I saw Virgie Dollars saying get to 421 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: get Somebody twelfth single, I call him by dollars and 422 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: gay yea, yeah, well okay, I love that exactly. Susan 423 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: features that joint and you can talk about it if 424 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: you watch it and you feel bad that you watch it. 425 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh you've been listening to a Yeah, you go listen 426 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: to it all about yourself? Are you saying because I'm 427 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: a woman? Yes, absolutely no, but um not, but I 428 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: really rock with Empire. I think, um, the successive Empire 429 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: is directly the hour, our society or our our world, 430 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: our cultures, affinity for the music industry. There's an outright 431 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: like we can make another Empire and it'll be as 432 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: success like you know what I'm saying, Like because people 433 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: want to know the underworkings of the music industry, right, 434 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: people want to know, like even if it's like kind 435 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: of ridiculous, I'm not gay battle rap, like you really 436 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: just battle wrapped and said you sung about your sexual 437 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: orientation and that was your unrealistic that would never happen 438 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: in real life, and what you don you imagine three 439 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: dollars versions like somebody like yes, talented dough man, it 440 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: was mighty that it was a mighty directly, but um, 441 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: yeah that was. But it's it's ridiculous enough to be 442 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: like talked about in the morning, Like you know, when 443 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I was in middle school, like we had New York undercover. 444 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: That was our joint, like like it was mart and 445 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: the New York NNA travel and we talk about that. 446 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: So like now everybody, I'm sure the watercol like cooler 447 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: talk is an empire, and it's it's ridiculous, but it's 448 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: very entertaining and the storylines are a little bit overly done, 449 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: but again it's very very entertaining. That's what you mean 450 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: when you say it's tids, it's it's the hip hop 451 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: guys who actually got talent. And then I wouldn't even 452 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: say talent because I'm sure they said that the girl 453 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: from plays like a lot of instruments. Yeah, and I'm 454 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: not trying to like like there's an indictment on her, 455 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: but like I'm sure there's a like there's producers there 456 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: that play off the delusions and dreams of some of 457 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: these people on the show, and that right there is 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: sick to me. I think, you know what I'm saying, Um, 459 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of like dangling, like you know, 460 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: you could be famous if you do this, Like you 461 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like some of that stuff is 462 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: like fringeworthy, like like the diamond strawberry I was. I 463 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: was like, yo, is this like didn't really leave her 464 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: daughter at home? No, but like she was like, yeah, 465 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I just come to the club to say to say 466 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: hello while they really watches this show. Bro. I've been 467 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: on the store bus driving, Bro, when you're driving from 468 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: New Mexico to LA and you have nothing to do, 469 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: like I'm on iTunes, I want to find something to watch. Please. 470 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: When I hear your album, I hear that you gotta 471 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of trust issues with females to the 472 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: shows like that reinforced that oh VH one VH one 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: saying I'm thinking aboud I said that on the last 474 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: album Real. I don't like that for everybody. You guys 475 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: are pretty untrustworthy as well. Of course, conversely, so I 476 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: love you put out there, what's the symbolism and white 477 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: sneakers man um the vanity and our people we're vain, 478 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: like you know, it ain't about it ain't about what 479 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: you're doing. It ain't about what uh what you're doing, 480 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: about how you're looking, you know what I'm saying. Where 481 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: they love you for your catalog and uh and everybody 482 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: got a jersey to play along back then the holes 483 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: checking for your zappato so even dirty has had some phones, 484 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's that's our life. Like uh, 485 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: free lunch for everybody, we all free, all come for 486 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: free lunch. Well, all my friends got Jordans my like 487 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: my mother was too proud to do to get this 488 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: the government checkers in or government issue joints, like you know, 489 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: just being African and being in America like that pride 490 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: is so we meant, you know what I'm saying. So 491 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: that's why we eating hot dogs and cans of corn 492 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: at nighttime, like you know what I'm saying. Like, but 493 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: like we come from all these poor environments and all 494 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: of all my peers got Jordans. On the vanity of 495 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: our people, the pride of our people. The mothers want 496 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: to put their sons. Mothers even want to dress their 497 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: sons up like the man that left them, you know 498 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Or mothers want to put some nice 499 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Jordan John to mask what's really happening, the mask like 500 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: there is no food and absolutely, and that's the that's 501 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: the core of that that song, you know, Jerry at 502 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of it, he says, I was wearing white 503 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: shoes and it makes me happy, and like that's that's set. 504 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: That's sent off like a whole lot of thinking and 505 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, you know after yeah, absolutely come 506 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: up with that now he just he just was talking. 507 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: That was one of the first things, the first things 508 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: that I took and I wrote that song last summer. 509 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: So we keep up appearances to be happy basics, I 510 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: mean to, we're trying to we're trying to give off 511 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: an idea about ourselves, you know what I'm saying. And 512 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: you know it's a vanity and we dine over that ship. 513 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: We're literally dying over to to impress somebody, Like if 514 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: I wear these shoes this, you're gonna perceive me this way, 515 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if I wear these shoes, 516 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're automatically putting me in this class of 517 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: individuals that needs to be respected or that needs to 518 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: be admired adored. You know what I'm saying. That's what 519 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: these sneakers represent. Absolutely white Snakers is essentially a symbol, 520 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: symbolic for all things that are material. Your record The Pessimist, 521 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: and I like that record because people think you're a pessimist. 522 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to power a positive thinking? I 523 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: really do well, and I got a number in my 524 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: mind as well. I want this album to do and 525 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I keep trying to tell myself this is gonna happen. 526 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm grateful for the universe every step 527 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: of the way, all the misfires and all the things 528 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: that happened, and you know, I pray on it, and 529 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: even if I don't, I still want to be thankful 530 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: that you know that I got an open door policy. 531 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Damn I could come, you know, and I'm one of 532 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: hip hops. The lead I like to think, you know 533 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I try to, like, you know, 534 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: do this whole the secret thing like, but I don't 535 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to be delusion. At the 536 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: same time, you know what, I'm saying I've seen some 537 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: delusional people in this very seat. So what's the numb look. 538 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put that out there because if I don't, 539 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like, ahh, what happened to you? Leave 540 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: me alone? Yeah? It's just stick. I mean, we work. 541 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm a working product. I come here tell you guys 542 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: working problems. I'm noticing that, like when you ask the 543 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: question that guy on that record, he asked the question, 544 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: who am I to change perception? It's all on you, 545 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: But he changed this perception. People are like it while now, 546 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: which is good. I'm a good guy. I don't know 547 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: if they's only that I heard them. You're also doing 548 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: some Nigerian music. I heard a song that you just 549 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: did recently. Is it something that has been a long time? 550 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: You see changing that? What is he doing? I want 551 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: to stay. I want to do a longer interview. I 552 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: want to stay for a whole shift. Can I do that? 553 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: You should have a wil a day shift the first 554 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: week number don't come back to where you want them. 555 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: You come in and do a whole show. I want 556 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: to come. I just want to I just want to 557 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: shoot man. Well, let's talk about the Nigerian music that 558 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: you I just heard one song that you did. Is 559 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: it a whole project that you're gonna do or what's happened? Um? Well, 560 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: I have a lot of you know, uh like peers 561 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: that that that are you know, successful artists in that 562 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: that arena, and that's something that I definitely want to 563 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: experiment with and I definitely want to represent and be 564 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: a part of. So like I could definitely see myself 565 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: doing that. Um. But you know, at the same time, 566 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: I definitely want to do a go Go album. That's 567 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: that's that's probably like my next thing that I want 568 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: to do. And essentially I want to find, like I 569 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: want to put together a band. Um. I want to 570 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: get maybe somebody from New York, a couple of kids 571 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: from DC. I wanted to. I want to have like 572 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: my ANRDP project whereas like I don't have to put 573 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: as much pressure on myself musically, and I got people 574 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: to work with as far as creating the sounds and 575 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that and providing like that sound to the 576 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: world to be able to usher in that sound. Because 577 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: gos is a dying art it's not it's not what 578 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: it used to be at all. I was gonna ask you, 579 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, with with it dying 580 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: so bad, do you still incorporate that with all your 581 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: should because if you don't know what go Go Go music 582 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: is it it's big in DC, Maryland, Virginia. It's more 583 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: of how how would you describe it? Like calling response? Um, 584 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: it's very rich and like percussion and uh, it's really 585 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: like nothing like like no other like you know, um, 586 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like saying what his orange looked 587 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: like to a blind person, Like you gotta kind of 588 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: be there to have a lot of influence. And the 589 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: thing is people don't even know. Uh, they try to 590 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: tell me what's go go? It's not like yo, why 591 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: don't you have to go go? On your last stif 592 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm like Clappers was gog you know what I'm saying, 593 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: or bait they didn't know bait was go go. You 594 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just bounce beat that go 595 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: go is evolved and into bounce beat and other subgenres 596 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: within that that genre. So, um, there's definitely something that 597 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: I want to do. And you know, like my you know, 598 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: my hat goes off to like a lot of the 599 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: DJ's like even like yourself, like you that put together 600 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: records that can do a compilation of you know, you're 601 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: organizing this guy on that record or two guys that 602 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: you think would sound dope like, but I still do 603 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: go sets. The problem is it is like, you know, 604 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing new. I'm not familiar with new stuff. Playing 605 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the oldest stuff you say, you like right there in 606 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the early nineties, late eighties, like it ain't really nothing. 607 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: So I want to find a way to revolutionize that. 608 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: And also like you know, trying to get some of 609 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: these guys and some money, Like you know what I'm saying, 610 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Like some of the guys that that that's Pioneer and 611 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, go Go, they've been touring the same small 612 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: earlier for twenty years, you know what I'm saying. So 613 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I just want to That's it means a lot to 614 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: me to be able to execute something like that for 615 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: the for the town. Let's gets for a second. You 616 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: always say white rappers get better opportunities than black rappers? 617 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: Is really that simple? Yeah? No, that's I mean, like 618 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, every time I mentioned this, I get like 619 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: they come from my head, but like like it's just 620 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: it is what it is, Like Iggyzel yah, yeah, she 621 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: she gonna get more opportunities than training they get. They 622 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: got the same, They rapped the same. I mean, I 623 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: don't know where you get that that that voice from Australia, 624 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: but that's next hearing or there. They have the same, 625 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, Tren it may being sold to a little bit, 626 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: why is it at its probably no, I'm just saying 627 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: obviously Iggy obviously, Iggy obviously was directly influenced by like 628 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: a Jackie Oo or like even a Ti Like you 629 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But those opportunities, I'm sure Katie 630 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: Perry is not knocking on Trainer's daughter to work, you 631 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's kind of weird to me. 632 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Like I just don't Katie didn't bring out Missy though, 633 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Stalgia j slow Cloud take this culture now, it's I mean, 634 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: I just my thing is like I just I and 635 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to get all. I gotta dream. I 636 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: gotta I have a dreaming on y'all. But like, I 637 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: just really wish there was more equality in our in 638 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: this sport, because you believe rap I don't want to 639 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: dominate a black rabbit. Okay, this is what I'm gonna 640 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: tell you right now, and I don't I know I'm 641 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble one. Please know my heart man 642 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: talk Well, it's easy for you to say any more. Okay. 643 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: All I'm trying to say is I am a big 644 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: fan of Sam Smith. I'm a big fan of his. 645 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: But that stay with Me record, right, had that been 646 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: sung by a black person, it would not have reached 647 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: top forty. It's not it's just not that's it's too slow. 648 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: It's what you I mean that that's okay, look at 649 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: look at the look at the shooting percentage Sand Smith. 650 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: Anything he puts out the top forty immediately that's it 651 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: doesn't top forty. They'll they'll, they'll tip, they'll give you 652 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: all the reasons as to why a successful song in 653 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: the urban area that can't cross over the top forty. 654 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: But as soon as he makes a record, it's top forty. 655 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And to people that don't understand top forty 656 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: is there's a direct correlation between top forty and iTunes. 657 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like or exposure, you know 658 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the casual music fan that doesn't 659 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: really that doesn't really go to blogs and it's then 660 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: a third their access is top forty. That's all they know. 661 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: That's household names. That's why I said white bitches barely 662 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: known me. I've been grace. I am society, y'alli. You 663 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like, and that's that's too bad, 664 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: Becky for not knowing who I LA. Is this your 665 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: damn fault? You know what I'm saying. But at the 666 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: same time, you guys guys like uh well, unfortunately R 667 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: and B is dying, But like August, I've seen it 668 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: would have sung Stay with Me or have been an 669 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: urban radio record period. No if fans and butts, there's 670 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: no way that song was going And people call me crazy, 671 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: But there's some songs that Sam Smith sounds identical to 672 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: Tank I'm too, exactly like Tank, exactly like him, and 673 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's Tank would have sung some of them songs. 674 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have they wouldn't have reached that Audi Urban radio, 675 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, urban radio has been great to me, like 676 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: I and I and I probably wear the flag of 677 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: like a guy with the most plays on urban radio 678 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: two times in a row, you know what I'm saying. 679 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: But at the same time, from a from a from 680 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, you would You would obviously want that 681 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: top forty success because that directly influences your income. Now, 682 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: I can't speak, gonna ask me because I think he's 683 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: actually talented. Me, he's very talented. But for the white rappers, 684 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: who I don't feel are as talented as a lot 685 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: of the black rappers, I think a lot of times 686 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: they're just novelties. So I'm gonna ask you, would you 687 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: rather have one year like Macaelmore? Are a ten year 688 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: Malcolmore coming back coming, he coming back onto your ass. 689 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: He probably got records with saying you know what I'm saying, 690 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: and it's not. But at the same time, at the 691 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: same time, if you want to talk about rapping, Royce 692 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: to five nine will smoke Malcolm Moore without question, and 693 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: it's not And the Voice to five nine record will 694 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: not surface top forty radio, no way, no how. But 695 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: would you rather have that one year like Mcalmore or 696 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: have a ten year career? As a respect, gonna have 697 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: a ten year career longer than Ye's gonna because he 698 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: don't have to write right, he doesn't have to like, Oh, 699 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: let me just call Kendrick and say congratulates. Sorry I 700 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: took your award down. Let me take it though, I 701 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: still got it. You know what I'm saying, like keep up, 702 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: and then like again like we I don't want to 703 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: like I'm walking the fine line of telling the truth 704 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: and somebody saying I'm hating like I mean disclaimer. I 705 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: enjoy Mlcamore's music. I was well aware of what he 706 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: was doing before he blew up, and I think he 707 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: founded Lane. He worked it and he and he did it, 708 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's all any 709 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: of us could want, you know what I'm saying. But 710 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's not the same. It's it's 711 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like I'm like being like 712 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: a revolutionary trying to be uep of Radio Wars and 713 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: like that. But it's definitely a black and white situation 714 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: at Toms, like you're doing a song with Lady Gaga 715 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: was your way, But I was already experiment. I was 716 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: already doing d M. I was you know, I dropped 717 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: on the Justice, I did go go I did, you 718 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I was already there trying 719 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: to do things like crossover into path. I like music, 720 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: I like I like, I like Christina Agiler sound like 721 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: a black girl. She sounded like I would love to 722 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: work with her, you know what I'm saying. Or with 723 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: Katie Perry sounding you know, she sounds like a white girl. 724 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: I would love to work with her. You know what 725 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like like, but that's because I like music. 726 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the actual art of performing music, you know 727 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, that last I know you got 728 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: to go labels trying to get you know, we know, 729 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: we hear. What's up. You're a sneakerhead, huge, the biggest 730 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: I would say influence when it comes to sneakers in 731 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: this in this industry, where's your own sneaker? That's another 732 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: thing like I would, I would the people want to 733 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: wallet shoot from Nike? I mean you, I mean you 734 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: should you? The people have broken so many sneakers and 735 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: so many styles. When it comes to sneak Sam Smith's 736 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: where he may not the air Sam Smith is coming out, 737 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: for sure, Definitely that air Saint Smith is coming out. 738 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: You guess the colorway that Joe, But it's go ahead. 739 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: The comments expressed by Charlemagne are not necessarily those while 740 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: has the all offer the game as being bisexual all that. 741 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm all for equality and people. Now where the wile 742 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: sneaker man? Do you know? It's something that we discussed, 743 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, like towards the end of my standard rock Nation, 744 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: myself and og One and Hove, like we we try 745 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: to kick that door down. Um, you know it's it's 746 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: just uphill battle though. But I definitely be up to 747 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, designing, you know, shoes for other clothing lines. 748 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: I got a couple of offers now to do some 749 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 1: some one up some one offs. You know, it's something 750 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: that I want to do. But it's something that I'm like, 751 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm about the culture man, Like I'm not 752 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: really about the dollar when it comes to that. That's 753 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: something that I enjoy, you know what I'm saying. Like 754 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: and actually I liked them joining. I like them. I 755 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: think it's a you know, I you know, when I 756 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: when I went to Paris to work with him, I 757 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: saw a lot of stuff he's working on, Like he 758 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: has a look. He showed me like where he was 759 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: getting this inspiration from him and it's like nineties. Um, 760 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: I forgot the name of the group. I think the 761 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: Youngsters or something like that, Like it was something he 762 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: was like, and and I saw Claire because I saw 763 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: the look book and I saw you know, like you know, 764 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: it's a the exaggerated like you know, you know yeah, 765 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: And them dudes are like into like the silhouette of 766 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: how the clothes fit on you and all that stuff, 767 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: like they're doing the combat boots and all that. I'm 768 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: more of a classic person, like give me a good phone, 769 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: the good air Force one, the air Max, and I Gucci, 770 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: but like I'm I'm I'm all for like the preservation 771 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: of like the DJ and the sneaker, like those two 772 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: things are synonymous with hip hop, Like and me personally, 773 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: I was creative at like Nike or something. I'm giving 774 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: DJ's shoot deals the same way I'm giving athletes or 775 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: rappers like that. Are you know, direct lead into the 776 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: sneaker world. I mean obviously that's where it started on 777 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I just think, you know, 778 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: like I saw with my own two eyes how much 779 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: money Rick Ross made Reebok. You know what I'm saying, Like, 780 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: ain't no new less nowhere. God blessed him, but he didn't. 781 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: He didn't make Reebok that much money. You know what 782 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if not for a misinterpreted lyric or 783 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: something like that, who knows where they reboke would have 784 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: been right now, you know they would. It kind of 785 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: killed the momentum. Now you recently revealed that you suffered 786 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: from anxiety. Did you have that before the industry? Nope, 787 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: damn Nope, not at all. I would. I would. I 788 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: just freaking have a football game run for two hundred 789 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: and fifty yards and the the the back after the 790 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: game with all cheerleaders in the newspaper and all that 791 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: and no problems. But you can see hip hop you 792 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: could be like the football players were getting brilled in 793 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh Julie greenball top mask with Earth Bard Jay z 794 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: Ari Bardy. No, but it comes from like and it's like, 795 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it is like our people 796 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: they look at like mental stuff as like a weakness, 797 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like and like, you know, 798 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: I grew up with people that that have that have 799 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: real like problems worse than me, because like I was, 800 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: mindes was low compared to the people like I'm I 801 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: was in juvenile the Titcher Center in sixth grade all 802 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: the way until I graduated high school. So I grew 803 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: up with. I literally grew up with people that have 804 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: real issues, the group home kids to you know, young rapists, 805 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: all type of wahala was going on when I was 806 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: in school. You know what I'm saying. It was like 807 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: I've been I've been there, I've seen it, I've seen 808 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: what you know. Like so like now, like it's almost 809 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: like God playing a little joke on me, Like I'm 810 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: I'm I get uncomfortable sometimes in large groups, because this 811 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: is how this is how I break it down. Like 812 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: I go somewhere with my men, and it's like four 813 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: of us. One one go to the bathroom, one go 814 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: in the car to get something, and one step off 815 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: the use the phone. I'm now saying about myself. I 816 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: can feel the churning of the thinking of people coming 817 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: ready to come ask me for something or try to 818 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: manipulate me or try to finagle something from l A 819 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: Like I'm a walking, breathing, living opportunity for people, and 820 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: we all are we all are bro Can I get 821 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: a drop shot? I mean, you know what I'm saying, 822 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: Like we are walking, We are walking, living, breathing opportunities. 823 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think people understand that. I don't think 824 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: that the world understands what we go through. And I'm 825 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: not saying to cry for us or what not like 826 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: that because you got carrias all up in your ear 827 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: and you're doing good. The jealous or something you're doing, 828 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: you're doing all. See, yeah, so don't cry for us. 829 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like nobody knows what our 830 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: little struggle, Like that's deep if you if you're not 831 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: strong enough to deal with or you don't have a 832 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: good core, like it's it's really difficult, like to go 833 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: I think my therapy is this because I actually go 834 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: away from like like we've come around a lot, but 835 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: I go away from every breakfast club interview feeling like 836 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: I got a weight off because because like you know, 837 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: y'all family, like you know what I'm saying, at the 838 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: end of the day, like we go through it like 839 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: y'all joke, we joke on each other whatever. But when 840 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, like I'm sure y'all be like, man, 841 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: I was, you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's 842 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: healthy for everybody, you know what I'm saying. And and 843 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: and that's that's ever since I started coming in here 844 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: being like just letting it go, I just feel better, 845 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: or like I started my every blue Moon thing where 846 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: I just write a letter to my fans and it's 847 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: essentially like a journal and I just I tell them 848 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: like yo, like you know what I'm saying today was that, 849 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: like or I'll find a masculine way to say somebody 850 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: here in my feelings would though somebody I have though, 851 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: like you know, they try, they bleed the clock a lot. Man, 852 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: we're getting straight to them, I mean potatoes and showing 853 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: appreciated Yeah, I'm sorry. Now, I'm sorry stores right now 854 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: about nothing. It's called tan on um. That's the hashtag 855 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter T T A N. Are you subconsciously encouraging 856 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: people to be darker? No? No, no, we should all 857 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: be darker though. Yeah, he's looking at you. I'm currently 858 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: dealing with bleaching rumors. Actually no, but I'll be feeling bad. 859 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: But when they do that to that man, yeah yeah, 860 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: I mean but he is the same exact exactly. I 861 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: give the energy I gotta take back he take. But 862 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: I just know, but you know what I'm saying, Like 863 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: he like just trying to like out a presentable look, 864 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't presentable before. 865 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, you did it, you did it, you 866 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: did it, you did it for a reason that you 867 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 1: did it for a reason, like you know what I'm saying, 868 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: maybe somebody got in him. He was like, I don't know, 869 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: you want to do what's what's up? No, I could 870 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: do it. I could do it. No, No, I got it. No, No. 871 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: Call Heim just wanted to even I cant like I 872 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: could be kidding. Plays and gentlemen, it's the breakfast. It's 873 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: the album about nothing.