WEBVTT - F the Critics, Go See “Him” 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:02.880 Hey there, folks. 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:07.280 It is Tuesday, September the twenty third, and we just 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:12.280 came from a theater seeing what is described as maybe 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.880 the worst reviewed movie of the year. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.040 Just how badly is it reviewed? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:23.360 Ropes Well Him has gotten one half star out of 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.800 four from a major Roger Ebert dot com New York 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.520 Times did not like it in Indie Wire. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.560 Whooh, they panned it as well. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.959 When you say they panned it, what do you mean? 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.479 How's this for a line in a movie review? Putrid 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:48.080 and hollow? Justin Tipping's brain dead football horror film, which 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.280 somehow managed to secure the backing of producer Jordan Peel, 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.360 is incomprehensibly bad. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.840 And we would like to tell you we fucking loved it. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.440 And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:05.000 We were scratching our haggs. We were a little confused. 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:07.920 Some of the reviews, they can be bad. Some of 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.560 the reviews we heard for this one seemed. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.800 Mean, Yes, hi, how about this a rock brained football 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.440 horror movie that's as subtle as being sacked by a 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.920 three hundred pound defensive lineman and somehow only half as 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:21.440 much fun. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.240 Oh my goodness, that seems mean. That doesn't seem to 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.800 be a critique of the lighting, of the music, of 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:30.040 the acting, of the writing. That seems like they were 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.880 taking shots at this movie that has a rating on 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:34.360 Rotten Tomatoes. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.199 Nine percent once in nine. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.360 I think it's on the rise if it's twenty nine, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.160 because I think it was lower. At one point, we 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.200 have been seeing previews robes. We go to horror movies. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.319 The only thing we see at theater is pretty much 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.880 a horror movies, so we see previews for upcoming horror movies. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.320 We've been seeing about this one for a while. It 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.680 was intriguing. We were curious, but it wasn't one we 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.880 plan to run out and see at theaters until we're like, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.240 how was everybody hating on this movie so much? 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.080 Yeah, until the bad reviews, and then we knew we 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.640 had to see it, And the truth is it's not. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:06.160 Look. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.800 I appreciated how different it was. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.800 For me. It was the best way I could describe 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:16.560 it was a football story meets midsummer That's what it 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.960 felt like to me. So, yes, it was bizarre and 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.400 you didn't know if what you were watching were hallucinations 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.560 or some sort of demonic presence, or if it was 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.920 maybe a fever dream from a concussion. You know, you 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.959 weren't really sure, but that was intriguing and certainly entertaining. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.000 I laughed. I was shocked. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:40.160 There weren't the typical jump scares. It wasn't terrifying or scary. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.240 Necessary horror thriller, kind of a cur correct. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.400 And there was some certainly some body horror in there, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.320 but you suffered through. You know, I hate that's not 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.080 your favorite genre. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:51.640 I hate tho was the movie's substance. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.040 I'm and there were some folks who made comparisons to it, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.359 but saying it wasn't anywhere near as good. But there 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.080 was you know, when you've got the audio of the 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.880 sound effects that go along with just even a simple 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.639 injection can be disgusting. So they the sound effects were 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.200 definitely a lot like a horror genre, I mean horror, 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.200 a body horror genre. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.120 Okay, And it's hard for us to say now because 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.480 we how could you go back? But there is no 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.160 way that even if we had not heard any of 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:24.560 the reviews, which would naturally set low expectations, dearest, if 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.920 we had seen this movie without seeing a single review, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.560 we would have enjoyed, Yes, this movie. We wouldn't have 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:33.840 walked out complaining. We walked out. The three of us 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.760 met you and Sabine. We were arguing, like what was that? 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.040 What did that mean? We immediately started talking about it. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.680 To me, that makes a good movie. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.280 That makes art because it starts you question, wait, what 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:45.000 did I just see? 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.800 And what do you think that meant? And didn't you 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.840 like this? And that was weird? But what do you 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.360 think that was? That? I think is all something I 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.280 appreciate when I walk out of a movie, that you're 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.400 having a shared experience. You watched it individually, but now 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.000 you want to talk about it and discuss it and 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.920 figure out what actually happened. It was never boring, and 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.160 a lot of people, a lot of people, a lot 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.440 of critics, and a lot of folks just who every 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.920 day Joe's who write audience reviews for Rotten Tomatoes. A 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.520 lot of people said it was boring, boring, yes, wow, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.520 and too long? It was only an hour and thirty six, Yes, yes, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.479 but yes, this was I love this one. Him is 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.840 a single idea stretched out for half the length of 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.520 an NFL broadcast. Spoiler alert, half of an eternity is 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.279 still an eternity, you know. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.000 I found I saw why was everybody trying to be 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.359 cute in their writing. They were trying to, in some 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.560 way take advantage of a football moving a football theme 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.960 to make all these clever little cracks and be snarky. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.120 You can do your thing and you can be a critic. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.880 That is fine, but there was a meanness to a 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.680 lot of this stuff. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.719 Yes, the critics consensus, so they kind of just sum 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.760 up all of the different critiques. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.279 On Rotten Tomatoes said this fumbling the ball well before 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:52.960 the red zone. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.480 Tim has style to spare, but botches it's promising, conceit 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.120 with rookie execution, Christ cold with puns. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:05.799 Look filled with puns. Maybe people took took advantage look 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.160 and we have to give The reason I think we're 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.599 doing this is because Marlon Wayans put out a statement. 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.359 He put out something on Instagram acknowledging how bad the 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.800 reviews were. His statement I thought was classy. I think 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.720 you gave me a heads up about that he had 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.000 put something out, so I thought he was taking him 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.600 on in some way. I thought he was respectful and 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.400 classy in the way he addressed it. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.760 I think so too. He said he respects the critics. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.359 He said their job is to critique. He respects their work. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:33.200 He said it. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.800 Shapes our industry, but an opinion does not always mean 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.760 it's everyone's opinion. Some movies are ahead of the curve. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.279 And then he went on to say innovation is not 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.000 always embraced, and art is to be interpreted and it's subjective. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.760 He says, I've had a career of making classic movies 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.400 that weren't critically received, and those movies went on to 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.200 be classics. So don't take anyone's opinion, just go see 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.720 for yourself. Love to all him in theaters, and that 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.719 is what made us want to go see the movie. 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.720 His statement was, I was leaning towards like, how can 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.839 a movie be reviewed so poorly? And it's not just 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.560 that people say it's not good or drags, or it's 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.279 poor rioting, or can't believe how it was shot or 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.320 the acting performance. So this was just everybody took a shot. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.880 It seemed like people were dying to take a shot. Look, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.160 the director is one thing. What is his name again? 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.479 Robes the direct tipping justin tipping. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.080 Justin tipping, okay, But a lot of. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.360 What's been used to promote the movie is the name 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:34.119 of Jordan Peele? 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:34.760 Correct? 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.640 Jordan Peele is the seen as a hit maker, if 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 you will, in this genre in particular, so his name 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.240 is attached to it. I don't know what the expectation 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.000 given that Jordan Peele's name was attached. I was like, oh, okay, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.159 this kind of this idea from some of his previous movies. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.799 I'm like, Okay, I don't exactly know what I'm saying, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.360 but I'm going on some kind of a trip. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.760 I feel like he's right now, kind of the Black 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.880 and Night Shyamalan. He's had some really big hits. He's 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.960 got a very creative and people will go to see 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.440 a movie with his name on it. But there are 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.240 a lot of very high expectations associated with a name 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.360 like his, and same with Shyamalan. And I do think 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.880 that they end up being perhaps their own worst enemy 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.280 in the fact that people have these expectations and if 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.960 something didn't feel like their last movie or they didn't 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.080 think it was good enough, it's almost easy to take 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.200 a shot at them because they've had such success. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.640 And I ask, is it highbrow expectations? 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.360 Perhaps, like you have. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.440 To have some kind of an elevated horror experience. Correct, okay, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.800 and we are. I will put our credentials up. We 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.200 are horror movie aficionado's. We love horror movies and some 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.840 of them are outstanding and excellent that are not award winning, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.240 but our wonderful experiences to have. This was a this 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.960 we aren't from start to finish. I think I told 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.600 you a third or a half in the movie in 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.480 I still didn't know exactly what was happening. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:54.640 And I appreciated that. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.400 Yes, And I think a lot of people didn't. They 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.320 somehow they wanted They thought it was too subtle, too obscure, 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.680 too confusing. You know, I actually wanted to read this 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.080 review by Robert Daniels in rogeriber dot com, but just 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.240 from where he started, and I did read one of 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.440 his lines towards the end of it, But he said, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.560 I can't believe I left the house to see him. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.680 I can't believe I took the train for over an 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.520 hour from the North side of Chicago to downtown to 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.320 see this movie. I can't believe I stood in line 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.520 to buy a soda and popcorn at the theater to 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.960 see him. And I especially can't believe that I sat 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.320 through the entirety of this thematically lost movie, allowed it 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.760 to live in my head on my trip back home, 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.000 and that I'm currently sitting on my couch writing about it. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.800 And so he went on to say other horrible things, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.840 but then he said, the dialogue is dreadful. The performances 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.160 are wooden, particularly Julia Fox as Isaiah's wife. And then 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.560 he refers to the young man who played Cam. He's 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.240 the lead stick stiff excuse me? He called him stiff 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.400 tyreek with I just couldn't disagree more because I thought 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.920 the acting was so remarkable. I thought the writing was great. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.280 It was comedic right when I needed it to be, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.080 needed it to be. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.120 Yes, I think, look, we are not movie critics, and 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.599 we're trying to end us. What Marlon did, he respected, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.080 this is what you do. You critique. Now, if you 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.800 have a criticism, why does it have to be Why 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.360 did you have me waste my time on the couch? Again, 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.280 I get maybe they're trying to be snarky, maybe trying 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.160 to be funny. Is that what it is? But it 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:33.880 comes across as mean and unnecessary, like this is someone's art, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.960 this is someone you know how hard it is to 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.839 get a movie on the big screen. Of course we do, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.679 but this is years in the making. Everybody bust their 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.120 ass to make this special and when you do, just say, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.360 you waste it my time getting on the train. Why 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.640 am I even breathing? Yeah, that's just it. Just see me. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.680 I'm sorry. It maybe just it's tongue in cheek and 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.360 I'm not taking it the right way. But Marlon, can 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.880 we not say enough about Marlon Wayans who was so 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:07.000 convincing and impressive in this When we come back, folks, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.200 we will tell you what we really think about the 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:14.240 performances of three of the top stars of this movie. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:26.160 And all right, folks, we continue now with our difference 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.920 of opinion. With a lot of reviews out there for 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.920 the new movie Him, which was good enough to get 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.839 number two at the box office at thirteen or fifteen 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:35.520 million last. 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.600 Weeknd thirteen point five to thirteen. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.839 Point five, a respectable number came in second at the 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.480 box office, only cost twenty seven million to make, so 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.760 not the biggest scare in the world. Looks like they 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.440 could make their money back back and do Okay, now, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.640 this is one do you think robes because of the 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.719 attention it's gotten so much negative attention in the way 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.160 he has addressed it, This could possibly do them some good. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.080 They could possibly pick up some new audience because of 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.680 how bad thing has been reviewed. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.120 It can peque interest to see just how bad they 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.079 Someone else might think it is based on some of 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.680 these reviews, but I also think they're being compared to. Look, 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.319 a lot of folks have been writing that horror movies, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.760 and we've talked about this, have been on a massive 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.839 hot street. They have done just gangbusters at the box office, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.720 and we've been excited because we feel like finally people 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.800 are catching on to the genre that we love most. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:32.520 They've been huge, Sinners, Weapons, Final Destination, Conjuring big somewhere. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.880 They have basically been booying up a you know, a 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.000 lagging box office. And we've got more coming too, because 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.040 there's a whole bunch of new movies coming out. People 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.920 have recognized that horror movies are now. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:49.640 Kind of you like. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.760 It used to just be a niche where only a 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.280 certain type of person or a moviegoer would want to 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.160 see it, and now it seems like it's caught on 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:02.559 and so yes, people are looking into making big franchise 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:03.320 horror movies. 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.840 And they've been doing them well. 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.480 Well, they heightened expectations. Now, yes, right, I thought this 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.000 one was in line. The way it looked, the way 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:12.679 it was shot, the way I mean it was a 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.040 beautiful movie at the production value at all that was 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:16.760 in line. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:17.880 It was remarkable. 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.720 So I don't know if maybe perhaps they're being compared 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.720 to or this movie is being compared to the ones 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.400 that came before it, and they set up these certain expectations, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.319 not just Jordan Peel's former movies, but these other movies 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.960 we just mentioned, also coming down the Pike, One Battle 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.640 after Another, Strangers Chapter two, Black Phone two. We just 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.559 saw the trailer for that in this theater. So this 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.160 has been hyped up. And sometimes when people have high expectations, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.000 the hype is so at such a certain level that 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.559 maybe unfortunately it became a victim to that as well, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.440 what's come before it and what's coming after it, and 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.439 people just might have had unrealistic expectations of what they 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:55.880 thought it should be or could be. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:13:00.360 But are we lay people compared to professional critics who 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.600 I actually don't know what their training is. But are 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.920 we lay people and they see something or excuse me, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.480 are they just looking through a different lens than we are. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.280 We are simply fans. We are not trying to critique 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.360 it as we're watching. Our critique is our experience in 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.160 the theater, and our experience was a good one. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:17.920 It was a good one. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.760 And I think for me, my critique or the way 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:22.920 I view it is was I entertained. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.600 Was the acting good? Was the script good? 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.760 Was it able to make me feel things, whether it 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.640 be laughter, fear, horror, shocked, all. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.120 And it did all of those things and confusion. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.160 Even sometimes because I like to be I was on 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.680 the edge of my seat, not because I was scared, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.920 but because I was intensely watching to see what was 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.480 coming next and how this was all going to be explained. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.559 And that's a thriller. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:48.600 Those mist thriller. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.880 It was a thriller with a body horror and there 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.400 was gore, So I mean it really was a thriller horror, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.440 but probably more thriller than horror because you're trying to 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.880 figure out what is happening, what's going on. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.520 There is a scene when things finally turn, when he's 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:08.280 in a practice and there is a there are consequences 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.280 for him missing a pass right, and the consequences are 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.120 not on him, It's on somebody else that intensity. I 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.360 was like, Oh, where's this movie going? 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:17.480 Oh? 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:18.400 You saw that happened. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.040 I had my hand over my eyes. I did not 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:21.840 want to look. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.600 I was definitely not wanting to see some of what 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.480 was happening to this poor fella who happily get to 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.040 leave volunteer whatever reason. I have no idea to be tortured, 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.560 but it was. I just thought it was never boring. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.640 It was never so. So that's why I'm confused by 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.760 what a lot of these critics are saying. And even so, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.320 they have some regular joes, you know, who write in 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.400 and I always like those actually more than the critics, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.040 because I feel like they're kind of every man like 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.360 us going in to see these movies. So a couple 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.400 of them and this was Wow. I want to get 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.560 your take on it. Horrifying and shocking were taglines I 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.000 read about this movie. Unfortunately, there some truth to it. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:06.760 This was horrifying, horrifyingly bad, and shockingly boring. Even the 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.640 slasher scenes were bad and uninspired. None of the scenes 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.960 were scary at all, while it is obvious that was 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.480 the intention only. The cinematography was good but did not 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.040 save the film. During the film, you keep wondering if 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.760 everything that happens is real or is just playing in 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.200 his head. And then I realized I just don't care. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.240 Damn Wow, Okay, it's tough, right. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.240 People have their opinions, and again. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.840 They okay, he said this was not worthy of my time. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.040 One of the worst movies I have seen this year. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:38.760 Let's not do that. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.520 I actually am fascinated people in such a time. 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:47.400 That's person that's mean, that's emotional, almost not worth And again, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.640 maybe I haven't read enough movie reviews and this is 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.200 how they talk sometimes and it's time you have to 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.920 be to get attention. He had to be done. I 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.280 don't know, or maybe that's how he genuinely feels. It 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:55.800 just seems hard. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:56.680 How about this one? 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.800 This one I don't even get cheap visuals cheap okay, disagree? 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:05.800 A wandering plot I didn't think it was wandering, and 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.040 a disappointing amount of gore. Despite a promising premise with 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:14.040 a likable protagonist, the execution was fumbled but on bomp. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.200 Several main plot points are carried by shaky cams and 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.720 strange montage shots that make very little sense. This movie 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.080 almost seemed almost afraid of leaning into the gore and 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.640 the actual scares, which for a movie about football and 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.280 inherently violent sports, seems like a poor choice, very disappointing. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:38.880 From Jordan Peele, cheap visuals. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.320 A disappointing amount. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.280 Meaning too much gore. 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.400 I think, oh, okay, so I took that weight. There 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.320 wasn't enough. You're saying that they think it too much. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.160 Well, you know what, maybe the movie seemed almost afraid 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.880 of leaning into the gore. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.480 Oh so they're saying is not gory enough? 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.120 Yes, and they wanted more scares, more gore. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.280 But see, they sound like they went into it with 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:01.440 too many expectations. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.600 I think everyone did. I think that's part of the problem. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.359 But she visuals, I don't get that at all. I 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:10.600 thought it was absolutely well shot and compelling in terms 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.920 of the visuals. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.400 And the compound they were at was more. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.879 Music was great, The acting was great. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:21.560 You know, it's it's interesting, the original really awful. Preview 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.640 by Robert Daniels at Robert Roger Ebert dot com when 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.200 he said that Julia Fox was Wooden. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.359 I actually thought she was a steam seal, a scene 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.720 steeler in a lot of moments because she was playing 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.720 this over the top person. 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.679 Yes, like this influencer who was married to you know, 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.520 the go to the big quarterback. And she was this, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:46.639 you know, full lipped woman who played her role perfectly. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.560 You and I after her first scene, we turned to 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.159 each other. Both leaned over immediately, just naturally to each other, like, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.960 oh my gosh, she's awesome, right we love. I loved 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 the first appearance she made, like, oh my gosh, she's great. 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.200 I'm glass he's in there. And to hear somebody hated 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.520 look to Marlin's point, a critics' opinion doesn't mean it's 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.159 everybody else's. They have the right to their opinion. They 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.160 can write as snarky and comedically as they want, and 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.119 even if I find it mean at times, it's their 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.320 job and you have to respect what they do. Just 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.399 completely disagree, sweetheart, I am serious. I was nervous about 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.840 going in because we had already committed to say to 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.520 telling the audience, hey, we're going to do a review. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.600 I was scared, like, oh shit, what if this is 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.920 like we actually don't like it. We are being as 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.680 genuine as we can be about this movie. I am 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.159 shocked at how bad the reviews are. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.000 We would never be mean, and I was prepared to 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.000 not like it as well and just say, hey, I 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.240 think we didn't have to say things so harshly. But yeah, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.679 there were some major problems with this film. I didn't 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:47.600 I was prepared to be able to say that too. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.399 I didn't know what to think. So again, I do 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.760 think when you go in with low expectations, I was 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:54.240 pleasantly surprised. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:55.840 We kept looking at each other waiting for it to 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:56.280 get bad. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.840 I was like, this is good and I actually saw 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.200 you genuinely enjoy it, just from like a guy football 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:02.840 kind of a thing. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.359 Oh it was again, I think that was I think 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:06.919 you said it before we even got out of the 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.320 theater football meets Midsummer. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.080 Yes, that's what it felt like to me. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.200 It was a trippy little thing. You have more reviews 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:13.640