WEBVTT - TOTAL Debate Disaster: Dems move to Replace Biden IMMEDIATELY

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<v Speaker 1>Total and utter disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats now calling for replacing Joe Biden, calling an operation

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<v Speaker 2>Replace Sleepy Joe. Dems are now scrambling with just one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty days to go, and the White House

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to spend the worst performance in president's debate

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<v Speaker 2>history as quote, Joe has a cold. That's right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a cold, folks, coming from NBC News Biden Trump

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four debate. Well, the President had a cold,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't worry. Biden tested negative for COVID. Quote sources say.

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<v Speaker 2>Two sources familiar with the situation confirming to see it

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<v Speaker 2>in or NBC News that President Joe Biden has a cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden was a minister of COVID tests, which was negative.

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<v Speaker 2>Three sources confirm. Yeh, that's why Biden sounded horse throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the debate. That is exactly how they're going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to spend this. So really it was totally fine to

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<v Speaker 2>see here, right, how bad was this debate? Democrats afterwards

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<v Speaker 2>coming out and the first person you heard from on CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>John King, put it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's into the debate and it continues right now. It

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<v Speaker 3>involves party strategists, it involves elected officials. It involves fundraisers,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they

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<v Speaker 3>think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people

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<v Speaker 3>down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations

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<v Speaker 3>about what they should do about it. Some of those

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<v Speaker 3>conversations include should we go to the White House and

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<v Speaker 3>ask the president's step aside or other of the conversations

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<v Speaker 3>are about should prominent Democrats go public with that call

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<v Speaker 3>because they feel this debate was so terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>They do say in moments in the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Later the president got better and got his footing, but

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<v Speaker 3>then at the end, even his closing statement was a

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<v Speaker 3>little halting the contrast between the two candidates. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>be clear, none of them and a lot of Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Donald Trump had a great night.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump broke.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact check machine more than I can count tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>That will be on the record we go forward. He

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<v Speaker 3>refused to answer some very specific and direct questions about

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<v Speaker 3>his conduct about January.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixth and what all, So that will be dealt with

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<v Speaker 4>out there. And sometimes there's a parallel.

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<v Speaker 3>Universe between the political elites and the American people. Be

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<v Speaker 3>nice to see what the voters say, but I can.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell you it started minutes in.

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<v Speaker 3>It started with the first couple of answers, and it

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<v Speaker 3>has continued throughout the night from oh my god, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, Oh my god, to what do we do

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<v Speaker 3>about this? And it involves very senior people in the

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying we have a problem,

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<v Speaker 3>and just.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden in one of those moments was this where

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like he blew a fuse on national TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, Democrats have been lying to telling you, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's fine. The White House, Saggie's as sharp as ever,

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<v Speaker 2>runs circles around his staff in an entire week to

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<v Speaker 2>plan for this at Camp David. And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden that showed up, and they want you to

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<v Speaker 2>believe it was just because he had a cold. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Get sure that we continue to suppend in our healthcare system,

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<v Speaker 5>making sure that we're able to make every single solitary

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<v Speaker 5>person are eligible for what I've been able to do

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<v Speaker 5>with the with the COVID, I excuse me, with dealing

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<v Speaker 5>with everything we have to do with Look if we

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<v Speaker 5>finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, President Bob Biden. President Trump, He's right.

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<v Speaker 6>He did beat medicare, beat it to death. And he's

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<v Speaker 6>destroying medicare because all of these people are coming in,

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<v Speaker 6>they're putting them on Medicare, They're putting them on social Security.

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<v Speaker 6>They're going to destroy social Security. This man is going

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<v Speaker 6>to single handedly destroy social Security. These millions and millions

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<v Speaker 6>of people coming in, they're trying to put them on

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<v Speaker 6>Social Security. He will wipe out social Security. He will

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<v Speaker 6>wipe out Medicare.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you want to debate, you know just how

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<v Speaker 1>bad that moment was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that it looked like a man who completely

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<v Speaker 2>lost his train of thought, didn't know where he was,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what he was talking about, and then brought

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<v Speaker 2>up Medicare. Now, Donald Trump there could have gone after

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<v Speaker 2>him saying what are you doing? Do you even know

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<v Speaker 2>where you are? He didn't. He went in on Medicare

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<v Speaker 2>and used a smart line there. But there was also

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<v Speaker 2>another part in the debate, and it was a moment

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<v Speaker 2>when the slurring of the words and the cognitive decline

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<v Speaker 2>of Joe Biden was very evident to everyone watching. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the disaster that John King just mentioned, and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to how the President responded to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Across the border illegally. That's better than when he left office.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm going to continue to move until we get

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<v Speaker 5>the total band on, the total initiative relative to what

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna do with more border patrol and more a

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<v Speaker 5>cybum officers.

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't know what he said at the end

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<v Speaker 6>of this, and I don't think he knows what he

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<v Speaker 6>said either.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I don't think he knows what he said either.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great way of handling it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>immediately the president moved on to the border, which is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what he should have done, is to move on

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly from that and just be like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he knows what he's saying, but he said it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that he didn't harp on it, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually think was even more damning. See him in after

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<v Speaker 2>the debate and they were the host, right, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>losing their minds. Here is what Aaron Burnett had to

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<v Speaker 2>say on Joe Biden's debate.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes through six days of preparation a campaign, and

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<v Speaker 7>they know the rules more than a week, okay, and

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<v Speaker 7>so more than a week they know the rules. He

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<v Speaker 7>practices with the mics. He knows every one of these

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<v Speaker 7>questions is coming, and yet he couldn't fill the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Now that I just want to, let's see what the

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<v Speaker 7>White House is saying. Sourceus goes to the White House

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<v Speaker 7>are saying he had a cold, wasn't feeling well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>as you expect, that came out early on in the debate.

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<v Speaker 7>But what accounts for someone with so much experience, doing

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<v Speaker 7>so much preparation, and this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing the outcome honestly, the questor and answers itself, he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't capable of doing any better than he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Burnett, former colleague of mine when I was at CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>She's angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, he goes through six days of preparation of

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<v Speaker 2>Camp David. They know the rules, he practices with the mics.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows every one of these questions is coming, which

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, that screams like, well, will you guys

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<v Speaker 2>give him the questions?

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<v Speaker 1>And yet he couldn't fill the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't fill the time on Social Security, they looked

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<v Speaker 2>like you got another like eighty two seconds, man, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>four seconds? Another question about African Americans, like you got

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<v Speaker 2>another minute?

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<v Speaker 1>You like you want to keep talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister president, you can't fill two minutes of time about

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<v Speaker 2>two extremely important issues. How is that even possible? How

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<v Speaker 2>is it even possible that you can't fill the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet here we are, and this is the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't all that was said on CNN about this

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<v Speaker 2>as well? And again I'm playing CNN because they were

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<v Speaker 2>the host of debate and CNN is carrying water for

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen some of them.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, he's the only president in a while who

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<v Speaker 8>didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 9>Troops have, of course, died on his watch.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, He's put in a fifteen dollars per shot

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<v Speaker 8>cap on insulin and Medicare.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a thirty five dollars a month cap.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, It's a two hundred dollars cap on overall

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<v Speaker 8>drug spending in Medicare. It's two thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 8>He said the border now has fewer crossings than when

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<v Speaker 8>Trump was in office. That's generally not true, he said,

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<v Speaker 8>or at least strongly suggested. Unemployment was that fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 8>when he took office, it was actually six point four.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, Trump's want Trump wants to get rid of

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<v Speaker 8>Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said, billionaires pay eight point

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<v Speaker 8>two percent in taxes.

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<v Speaker 9>It's much higher.

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<v Speaker 8>He said Trump told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID.

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<v Speaker 8>We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection,

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<v Speaker 8>but didn't frame it as advice to people.

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<v Speaker 9>And Biden said the Border Patrol endorsed him.

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<v Speaker 8>No, it's union supported the border bill he'd supported, never

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<v Speaker 8>endorsed him himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Again fact checking. This is CNN fact checking Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>I like rapture alert. Now it's not really a rapture alert.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to understand why they're doing this. Okay, why

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<v Speaker 2>why this conversation's happening. It's because they want to replace him,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now they have to do this to replace him.

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<v Speaker 2>CNN watching it. I said this when I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>it right away with Cinder Cruz and and and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that I was as I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>it was like, this is like watching a funeral of

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>A great example of it was.

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<v Speaker 4>This there there is no two ways about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not a good debate for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>Man. That was painful.

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<v Speaker 10>I love Joe Biden. I worked for Joe Biden. He

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<v Speaker 10>didn't do well at all. He did not do well

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<v Speaker 10>at all, and he looked, Yeah, I'll give you the analysis.

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<v Speaker 10>You kind of have the old man versus the con

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<v Speaker 10>and I can walk you through how I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 10>see it and say it, but I'm just want to

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<v Speaker 10>speak from our heart. I love that guy as a

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<v Speaker 10>good man. He loves his country. He's doing the best

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<v Speaker 10>that he can. But he had a test to meet

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<v Speaker 10>tonight to restore confidence of the country and of the base, and.

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<v Speaker 9>He failed to do that.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think there's a lot of people who are

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<v Speaker 10>going to want to see him.

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<v Speaker 4>Consider taking a different course.

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<v Speaker 10>Now we're still far from our convention, and there is

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<v Speaker 10>time for this party to figure out a different way

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<v Speaker 10>for it, if you will allow us to do that.

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<v Speaker 10>But that was not what we needed from Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's personally painful for a lot of people. It's

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<v Speaker 10>not just panic, it's pain for what we saw at night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a funeral, y'all. Like this is a funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>You're witnessing the Democratic Party saying we're going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>you out now. By the way, if you want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who's thrilled tonight. It's got to be Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom was asked because he thinks he could be

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. Listen to Gavin Newsom quickly.

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<v Speaker 11>Are you going to be the next Democratic nomineed?

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<v Speaker 4>No, we are nominee as Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to voting for him in November.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to be our num because.

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<v Speaker 12>You know that everyone we're talking about you as a

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<v Speaker 12>possible nominia.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, he said, Oh, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is below the CNN debate headquarters tonight, this reporter

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<v Speaker 2>asking Gavin Newsom, are you going to be the next

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic nominee? That's his answer while he was glowing and

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<v Speaker 2>grinning from ear to ear. Let's also talk about America's

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<v Speaker 2>reaction to all this. Forget CNN for a second. What

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<v Speaker 2>did America say who won the debate? With debate watchers

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<v Speaker 2>and a CNN poll that was conducted tonight right after

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<v Speaker 2>the debate, their poll number says this, you ready, this

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<v Speaker 2>is unbelievable. Who won the first debate? Donald Trump sixty

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent, Joe Biden thirty three percent. Now there's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of the country that are hardcore Democrats they

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<v Speaker 2>talk to that we're not gonna admit that Donald Trump won. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they're partisan hacks. They're not going to ever admit that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump won. And that's the way that thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>percent comes fromp the sixty seven percent of the public

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<v Speaker 2>that says Donald Trump won. That is the number that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody right now should in fact be talking about, because

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<v Speaker 2>this number is truly incredible. Scott Jennings over at CNN

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<v Speaker 2>also when he was asked about this, like how bad

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<v Speaker 2>this is?

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<v Speaker 13>Listen told for weeks weeks by Democrats who say, oh,

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<v Speaker 13>in private meetings, I've seen Joe Biden do cartwheels and

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<v Speaker 13>handstands while doing trigonometry while solving all the nation's problems.

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<v Speaker 13>We now know that every single person who said that

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<v Speaker 13>has been lying to the America people.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of Democrats who've been lying to

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<v Speaker 2>each and every one of us. It's a point that

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<v Speaker 2>I said during the debate with Center Cruz, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hear that our conversation in a moment. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is a everybody that went on stage, okay, everybody that

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<v Speaker 2>went on TV, everybody that went out there defending Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden until tonight when clearly the lights were out, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was home, and Joe Biden's head, they were all lying

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<v Speaker 2>to you like, oh, he's in great and everything's wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's amazing, and look, you can't like, you can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>people that what they saw tonight was not what they

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<v Speaker 2>saw tonight, like they saw a man that was completely lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the reason why in that moment, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. I think the point of the night

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<v Speaker 2>that was the biggest line of all that won Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden a seat to the exit ramp of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>Party and one Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>The entire night was this moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Continue to move until we get the total ban on

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<v Speaker 5>the total initiative relative to what we're gonna do with

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<v Speaker 5>more border patrol and more a cybum officers.

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<v Speaker 6>President Trump, I really don't know what he said at

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<v Speaker 6>the end of this, and I don't think he knows

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<v Speaker 6>what he said either.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he knows what he said either. And

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<v Speaker 2>did you notice that he didn't fight back?

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<v Speaker 14>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you notice what was said? He didn't fight back.

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<v Speaker 2>Quaeren mccaskell hardcore Lefty On with Rachel Maddout a night

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<v Speaker 2>on MSNBC for their coverage. Listen to what she said.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, first, the easy part, Donald Trump is a liar,

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<v Speaker 12>a flawed character, mean, a jerk, very unlikable, and that

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<v Speaker 12>was obvious tonight. Now the horn and heartbreaking part. I

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<v Speaker 12>have been a surrogate for some presidential candidates in my time.

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<v Speaker 12>I know what the job is after a debate of

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<v Speaker 12>a surrogate. I've never wanted to be a surrogate more

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<v Speaker 12>than I do right now, because when you're a surrogate

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<v Speaker 12>you have to focus on the positives. But I have

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<v Speaker 12>said very clearly and very plainly on this network, and

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<v Speaker 12>my job now is to be really honest. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 12>had one thing he had to do tonight and he

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<v Speaker 12>didn't do it. He had one thing he had to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 12>and that was reassure America that he was up to

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<v Speaker 12>the job at his age, and he failed at that tonight.

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<v Speaker 12>Now does that mean that my phone blowing up with

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<v Speaker 12>senators and campaign operatives and donors, big donors from all

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<v Speaker 12>over the country. Does that mean that Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 12>not going to be the candidate? I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 12>I think we'll know a lot more in a few

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<v Speaker 12>weeks how this plays out, how the polling plays out.

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<v Speaker 12>But I think a couple of things are going on

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<v Speaker 12>right now. I think I'm not the only one whose

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<v Speaker 12>heart is breaking right now. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 12>who watch this tonight and felt terribly for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, you have to ask, how did.

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<v Speaker 9>We get here?

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<v Speaker 12>How do we get to the point that we're spending

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<v Speaker 12>a whole lot of time talking about the vice president

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<v Speaker 12>tonight instead of talking about the president. And I don't

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<v Speaker 12>know how the rest of this story is written. I

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<v Speaker 12>don't know if things can be done to fix this.

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<v Speaker 12>They might, and you know, Trump is so terrible that

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<v Speaker 12>this might heal itself. But based on what I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 12>from a lot of people, and some of them are

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<v Speaker 12>people that are in high elective offices in this country,

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<v Speaker 12>and you might guess where they serve, there is a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of more than hand ringing tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I did more than hand ringing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's either referring to Chuck Shimmer and Kama Harris are

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<v Speaker 2>both folks. She's making it clear in the statement she

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<v Speaker 2>just made.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, who won the debate?

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing it on TV, having to tell you, yes, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump beat the crap out of Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>Who won the debate?

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<v Speaker 15>We asked debate watchers in our instant poll and the

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<v Speaker 15>answer is a resounding Donald Trump did. Sixty seven percent

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<v Speaker 15>of debate watchers in our poll say Donald Trump won

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<v Speaker 15>the debate tonight. Joe Biden thirty three percent say he

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<v Speaker 15>won the debate tonight. Now, this group of debate watchers,

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<v Speaker 15>they told us who they thought would win the debate

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<v Speaker 15>going into it, before the debate, and take a look

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<v Speaker 15>at how that changed over time. Fifty five percent thought

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<v Speaker 15>before the debate that Donald Trump would win the debate.

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<v Speaker 15>Forty five percent thought Joe Biden would win the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no way to get out of what everyone

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<v Speaker 2>just witnessed tonight. There's no way to get around just

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<v Speaker 2>how bad this is. Joe bat Biden. You can you

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<v Speaker 2>can say all you want. Okay, you can. You can

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<v Speaker 2>say all that you want that he had a cold.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the first lady looking at Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what they said.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after party. It's just listen to this.

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<v Speaker 16>Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question.

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<v Speaker 16>Can you know, let me ask the crowd.

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<v Speaker 14>What did Trump do?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she's going to be the candidate now Joe Biden's

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<v Speaker 2>out there at their party there after party in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got the first lady who's saying, you answered

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<v Speaker 2>every question, you knew the facts, and what did what

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<v Speaker 2>did Donald Trump do?

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<v Speaker 1>He lied?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's there in a room not realizing they're

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<v Speaker 2>at a funeral. They're at a funeral for him, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, Chuck. By the way, Chuck Todd at NBC

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<v Speaker 2>News describing it this way, even though they're saying on

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<v Speaker 2>stage right now, oh no, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 17>One of the things was, would either candidate look like

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<v Speaker 17>the caricature that the other campaign has been trying to

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<v Speaker 17>paint of him? And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 17>Joe Biden looks like the caricature that conservative media has

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<v Speaker 17>been painting. And there were no clips tonight, right this

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<v Speaker 17>was you saw it before your eyes. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 17>want to just tell you what I think here, Tom.

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<v Speaker 17>I've been talking to a lot of leaders in the

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<v Speaker 17>Democratic Party, elected coalition leaders. There's a full on panic

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<v Speaker 17>about this performance, not like, oh, this is recoverable. It

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<v Speaker 17>is more of a okay, he's got a step aside.

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<v Speaker 17>There's a lot of that chatter.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about as bad.

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<v Speaker 17>Of a performance in order to do that, Biden could

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<v Speaker 17>have delivered.

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<v Speaker 4>If his goal was.

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<v Speaker 17>To try to sort of calm the waters among Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look the.

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<v Speaker 2>This is chick tod saying this at MSNBC Mark Levin,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a dear friend of mine and a mentor. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>think of all the public people who've intentionally lied to

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<v Speaker 2>the American people. Think of all the public people, all

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<v Speaker 2>the elected officials, everybody around the president who just straight

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<v Speaker 2>up lied to you and told you that this guy

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<v Speaker 2>was in great shape. Who's running the country. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>other question, like who is running the country? Who's running

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<v Speaker 2>the country. I want to bring in Senator Ted Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>We did an instant response to this, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to hear our conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Center.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to some of the highlights. But

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<v Speaker 2>even before we get to the debate, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>most shocking part is what happened directly after the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the first thing that America heard on CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>the host of the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's into the debate and it continues right now. It

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<v Speaker 3>involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they

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<v Speaker 3>think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people

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<v Speaker 3>down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations

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<v Speaker 3>about what they should do about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of those conversations include.

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<v Speaker 3>Should we go to the White House and ask the

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<v Speaker 3>president's step aside? Or other of the conversations are about

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<v Speaker 3>should prominent Democrats go public with that call because they

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<v Speaker 3>feel this debate was so terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>They do say in moments in the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Later the president got better and got his footing, but

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<v Speaker 3>then at the end, even his closing statement was a

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<v Speaker 3>little halting the contrast between the two candidates. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>be clear, none of them and a lot of Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Donald Trump had a great night. Trump broke

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<v Speaker 3>the fact check machine more than I can count tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>That will be on the record as we go forward.

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<v Speaker 3>He refused to answer some very specific and direct questions

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<v Speaker 3>about his conduct about January sixth and what all. So

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<v Speaker 3>that will be dealt with out there. And sometimes there's

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<v Speaker 3>a parallel universe between the political elites and the American people.

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<v Speaker 3>Be nice to see what the voters say, but I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you it started minutes in. It started with

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple of answers, and it has continued throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the night from oh my god, Oh my god, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, to what do we do about this? And

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<v Speaker 3>it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party, including

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<v Speaker 3>elected officials, saying we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And just we have a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They're moving actively right now to replace Joe Biden, saying

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<v Speaker 2>we've got time before the convention, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you predicted on this show nine months ago.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, let me say what you played just there. I

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<v Speaker 18>agree with half of it, and I disagree with half

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<v Speaker 18>of it. What I do agree with is that Joe

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<v Speaker 18>Biden did unbelievably badly. That the degree of dementia he

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<v Speaker 18>is facing right now now, it is escalated to a

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<v Speaker 18>point that it is unrecognizable. And I think there are

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<v Speaker 18>a great many Democrats who are looking at this saying

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<v Speaker 18>we cannot nominate this man. He is not capable. He

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<v Speaker 18>doesn't know what's going on. In a second, we're going

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<v Speaker 18>to play a couple of clips that show that. But

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<v Speaker 18>it was I will say, as badly as I thought

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<v Speaker 18>Joe Biden was going to do, he did worse. It

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<v Speaker 18>was stunning. I've never seen a debate performance this bad.

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<v Speaker 18>But the part I disagree of what you just played

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<v Speaker 18>is I think Donald Trump had hands down his best

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<v Speaker 18>debate performance he has ever had in his life. Look,

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<v Speaker 18>I've stood on that stage with Donald Trump about a

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<v Speaker 18>dozen times, and I've seen him and sometimes he said

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<v Speaker 18>good debates. Sometimes he's had less than good debates. Tonight

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<v Speaker 18>he did exactly what earlier this morning, you and I

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<v Speaker 18>did a special podcast preparing for this debate, and what

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<v Speaker 18>you and I talked about that Trump needed to do

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<v Speaker 18>is be calm, be measured, be under control, not interrupt

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<v Speaker 18>Joe Biden, let him hang himself, give him the airtime

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<v Speaker 18>to talk. And Trump did that spectacularly. He was restrained,

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<v Speaker 18>even as Biden was saying ridiculous things. He was restrained,

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<v Speaker 18>he was calmed, he was matter of fact. He prosecuted

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<v Speaker 18>the case, and Biden couldn't handle it. Biden repeatedly, what

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<v Speaker 18>was screaming, You're a liar, You're lying. You could I mean,

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<v Speaker 18>he was there were moments. Look, it's clear we talked

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<v Speaker 18>before about the meds. They had him on meds. They

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<v Speaker 18>put him on different meds from the State of the Union.

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<v Speaker 18>He was not nearly as amped up as he was

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<v Speaker 18>at the State of the Union. But when Trump poked

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<v Speaker 18>him and he got angry, Biden couldn't respond other than

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<v Speaker 18>just screaming, liar, liar, liar. And he returned to the

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<v Speaker 18>State of the Union, old man on his front porch screaming,

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<v Speaker 18>get off my front port. She had moments like that,

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<v Speaker 18>But that's not even the dominant takeaway. The dominant takeaway

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<v Speaker 18>is this is a man who doesn't know what's going

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<v Speaker 18>on here.

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<v Speaker 14>I want to play the clip early in the day

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<v Speaker 14>bait where he just.

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<v Speaker 18>Completely loses his train of thought, and this is the

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<v Speaker 18>answer at which I think people all over the country said, Uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 18>this guy's just not there.

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<v Speaker 14>Give a listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I s could be with dealing with everything we have

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<v Speaker 5>to do with Uh look, if we finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally beat medicare. I mean Donald Trump's response was quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I really don't know what he said at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows

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<v Speaker 2>what he said either, And Joe Biden dishes so.

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<v Speaker 18>Ben he actually didn't say that in response to that comment.

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<v Speaker 18>That was in response to a statement later that he

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<v Speaker 18>said that was completely incoherent. This was the first one,

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<v Speaker 18>and Biden gets lost and and Trump counters with what

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<v Speaker 18>he counters to, that is and by the way, the

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<v Speaker 18>question had nothing to do with medicare. Like the word

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<v Speaker 18>medicare comes completely out of left field. It's the only

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<v Speaker 18>thing he mentioned. He's just like, we finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 18>And then Trump cames and said, well, he said at

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<v Speaker 18>the end, he beat medicare, he beat it to death.

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<v Speaker 18>Give a listen to Trump's response. Play the next clip.

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<v Speaker 5>All those things we need to do, childcare, eldercare, making

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we continue to suppend strength in our healthcare system,

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<v Speaker 5>making sure that we're able to make every single solitary

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<v Speaker 5>person eligible for what I've been able to do with

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<v Speaker 5>the UH, with the COVID, I sculd be with dealing

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<v Speaker 5>with everything we have to do with Look, if we

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<v Speaker 5>finally beat medicare.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, President Biden.

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<v Speaker 6>President Trump, Well, he's right, he did beat medicare, beat

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<v Speaker 6>it to death. And he's destroying Medicare because all of

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<v Speaker 6>these people are coming in, they're putting them on Medicare,

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<v Speaker 6>They're putting them on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you hear that. He just stopped. Didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing. And if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>look on his face. Senator Joe Biden actually looked lost

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<v Speaker 2>and was looking around like what.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I doing? Am I?

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<v Speaker 18>His brain was frozen. It short circuited throughout the time.

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<v Speaker 18>I'll tell you Joe Biden did badly when he wasn't talking.

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<v Speaker 18>When he wasn't talking, the look on his face was

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<v Speaker 18>a look of confusion. Listen, anyone who's ever dealt with

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<v Speaker 18>with an elderly parent, an elderly grandparent who's dealing with

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<v Speaker 18>the loss of their faculties knows that look. My grandmother Miabuela,

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<v Speaker 18>whom I love, she had Alzheimer's. I've seen, I've seen

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<v Speaker 18>what happens. It was clear he didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 18>going on. He was just confused. And even his most

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<v Speaker 18>passionate defenders, they can't defend them all right, Maria Shriver.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw this. Kene Kennedy, Yeah, I just saw this.

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<v Speaker 18>Democrat Democrat Royalty. Let me read you what she just

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<v Speaker 18>tweeted moments ago. Quote, I love Joe Biden. I know

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<v Speaker 18>he's a good man. I know his heart is good.

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<v Speaker 18>I know is dedicated to our country and is surrounded

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<v Speaker 18>by good people. Tonight was heartbreaking in many ways. This

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<v Speaker 18>is a big political moment. There's panic in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 18>It's going to be a long night. The Democrats have

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<v Speaker 18>lost Maria Shriver, that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and listen to Abbi Phillips.

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<v Speaker 2>Abby Phillips saying this on CNN as well in the

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<v Speaker 2>moments afterwards. This is how she described how bad it

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<v Speaker 2>was for Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 11>And just to co sign what John is saying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 11>the panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not

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<v Speaker 11>like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far,

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<v Speaker 11>and a lot of it has to do with First

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<v Speaker 11>of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he lied a lot tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able

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<v Speaker 11>to take sometimes incredible falsehoods and turn them into some

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<v Speaker 11>kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of cases not coherent, deeply problematic, that he was not

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<v Speaker 11>able to take pretty straightforward answers and answer them to.

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<v Speaker 14>The that's CNN.

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<v Speaker 18>That is CNN who's saying the Democrats are panicking, and

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<v Speaker 18>Biden's answers where in a lot of cases not go here,

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<v Speaker 18>all right, play Van Jones, Van Jones, this is the

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<v Speaker 18>hard left here. He's on CNN. Listen, here's what Van

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<v Speaker 18>Jones had to say.

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<v Speaker 10>I was painful. I love Joe Biden. I worked for

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<v Speaker 10>Joe Biden. He didn't do well at all. He did

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<v Speaker 10>not do well at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a funeral. It's like you're watching a funeral

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<v Speaker 2>in real time on CNN. And this is their instant reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the first voices that America heard after the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Drudge Report, for example, which used to be pretty conservative center,

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<v Speaker 2>now they really hate Donald Trump. Their headline right now

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<v Speaker 2>is operation Replace Biden, dim scramble with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty days to go debate catastrophe, Which brings me back

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<v Speaker 2>to let's go back to nine months ago. Nine months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>September the eighteenth, You and I had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there were a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>media and there were a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of other people in Washington that said you and I

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<v Speaker 2>were crazy for having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's play the clip.

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<v Speaker 18>So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most

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<v Speaker 18>likely and most dangerous. In August of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 18>the Democrat Kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama, and.

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<v Speaker 14>I want you to pause and reflect on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and

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<v Speaker 2>so is everybody else listening.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now.

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<v Speaker 14>I view this as a very serious danger.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also could totally see this happening.

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<v Speaker 18>So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,

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<v Speaker 18>which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats

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<v Speaker 18>are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid

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<v Speaker 18>the problem if you pick from any of the four.

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<v Speaker 18>The other three are pissed because they're all, to some

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<v Speaker 18>extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other.

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<v Speaker 18>Michelle Obama, because she was first Lady, has the ability

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<v Speaker 18>to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 18>we're not picking among any of you. You guys can

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<v Speaker 18>all fight it out next time. You're all going to

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<v Speaker 18>be on the same level. We're coming. This is the

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<v Speaker 18>Obamas saving the day, and I think in terms of

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<v Speaker 18>a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 18>I also think Michelle is not all that eager to

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<v Speaker 18>run for president, but to parachute in in August of

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<v Speaker 18>twenty four, a couple of months before the presidency, and

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<v Speaker 18>suddenly wake up and be president.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a bad gig.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not a bad gig at all. Now, would she

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<v Speaker 14>do it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 18>I've met Miche, but I don't know her personally in

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<v Speaker 18>any meaningful way. I don't know if she would do it.

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<v Speaker 18>I do think Barack Obama is already running the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 18>I think he is already the puppet master behind this

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<v Speaker 18>Biden White House. I don't think Joe Biden is the

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<v Speaker 18>decision maker. And so when I see the media turning

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<v Speaker 18>on Joe Biden right now, I think the odds of

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<v Speaker 18>Michelle Obama parachuting in in August of twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 18>have risen dramatically, and that ought to scare the hell

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<v Speaker 18>out anyone who who is unhappy about the direction this

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<v Speaker 18>country is going and doesn't want us to go even

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<v Speaker 18>crazier in an even worse direct.

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<v Speaker 2>September eighteenth, center of twenty twenty three, we had this discussion,

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<v Speaker 2>and even right now on MSN dot com, the headline

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<v Speaker 2>is we beat Medicare Biden. Freese's mid answer before being

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<v Speaker 2>bailed out by moderator and then they go on to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that was a total disaster by the sitting

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<v Speaker 2>president and Democrats are running to replace Joe Biden, so

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<v Speaker 2>they're not even having the conversation behind closed doors. They're

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<v Speaker 2>having it out on national TV right now and in

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<v Speaker 2>the news.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, and Ben, what you've just played is I think

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<v Speaker 18>as good a promo for this podcast as you possibly

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<v Speaker 18>could have.

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<v Speaker 14>What we are facing right now.

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<v Speaker 18>We predicted on this podcast nine months ago in September

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<v Speaker 18>of twenty twenty three. We were among the very first

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<v Speaker 18>voices to do that. At the time, it made a

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<v Speaker 18>bunch of headlines. And you're right, people thought we were

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<v Speaker 18>batcrap crazy. Let's be clear, they thought I was bat

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<v Speaker 18>crap crazy. I shouldn't say we had stick you into that.

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<v Speaker 18>You were there while I was making that prediction, and

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<v Speaker 18>they were like, cruise has lost as mind. And by

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<v Speaker 18>the way, in terms of predictions, we also at the

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<v Speaker 18>outset of COVID laid out all of the evidence that

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<v Speaker 18>COVID originated in the Chinese lab in Wuhan. When CNN

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<v Speaker 18>and ABC, CBSNBC were suppressing that news, when Facebook and

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<v Speaker 18>Twitter were suppressing that news, we were laying out thevidence.

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<v Speaker 18>Then and this morning before the debate, our analysis of

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<v Speaker 18>the debate, I predicted, unequivocally, Donald Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 18>kick Joe Biden's ass. That was my prediction. That is

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<v Speaker 18>exactly what happened. It was the title of the show.

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<v Speaker 18>And there were not a lot of people predicting that,

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<v Speaker 18>But I number one thought Biden would do terribly. But

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<v Speaker 18>number two, if Trump could remain controlled, and he did that,

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<v Speaker 18>he did that in an excellent way. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 18>call President Trump tomorrow and tell him it's the best

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<v Speaker 18>debate he's ever done, and I've been there for a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of them. He was measured, he was controlled, he

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<v Speaker 18>was fact based, he laid out the case. Even his

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<v Speaker 18>response on medicare, let's take the one we just played.

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<v Speaker 18>It would be easy to be starky and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 18>this guy is like that answer is incoherent. What Trump

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<v Speaker 18>did was even better. There said, I mean, look, he

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<v Speaker 18>said he actually did beat medicare, which was obviously a

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<v Speaker 18>weird brain short circuit. And he said the reason he

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<v Speaker 18>beat medicare is because he's let millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 18>legal immigrants into this country. He's putting them all in Medicare,

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<v Speaker 18>which is going to bankrupt Medicare. And that was a

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<v Speaker 18>major message that Trump is hitting, is that the invasion

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<v Speaker 18>on our southern border is also bankrupting Medicare and social Security.

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<v Speaker 18>I think that was a smart decision to lean in

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<v Speaker 18>on that. Joe Biden had no answer. He had no

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<v Speaker 18>response all night long. As Trump laid out the case

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<v Speaker 18>you caused the inflation, Joe Biden had no response to that.

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<v Speaker 18>As Trump laid out the people who are being murdered

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<v Speaker 18>all across this country from criminals and insane asylums. When

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<v Speaker 18>Trump would say, look, Venezuela is emptying their jails and

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<v Speaker 18>sending US murderers and rapists and child molesters and lunatics,

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<v Speaker 18>you saw Joe Biden just looking confused. He had no response,

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<v Speaker 18>He didn't dispute it. He had nothing to say in response.

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<v Speaker 18>On foreign policy, and we talked about this again in

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<v Speaker 18>this morning's podcast, Joe Biden just said, well, if Trump's

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<v Speaker 18>president Putin will invade all of Ukraine and all of Europe,

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<v Speaker 18>and Trump is like, what utter crap? When I was president,

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<v Speaker 18>Russia didn't invade one square inch of territory anywhere on

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<v Speaker 18>planet Earth. And by the way he did under Barack

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<v Speaker 18>Obama and he did under Joe Biden. You are so

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<v Speaker 18>weak that that's why Putin invaded and it. Trump did

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<v Speaker 18>an excellent job of prosecuting the case, and Biden was

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<v Speaker 18>utterly incapable of responding. And I think you are seeing

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<v Speaker 18>seeing Democrats freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 18>I believe there are two things. Well, let me say

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<v Speaker 18>to a couple of things. Number one, let me tell

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<v Speaker 18>you why I believe it'll be Michelle Obama because you're

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<v Speaker 18>going to see today and tomorrow all sorts of discussion.

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<v Speaker 18>You're gonna hear Gavin Newsome, You're gonna hear all sorts

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<v Speaker 18>of other names.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this one. I think, if they

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<v Speaker 1>do it, what's the pitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's gonna start with Barack Obama, who was just

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<v Speaker 2>leading Joe Biden off stage, remember, and everybody saw it

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<v Speaker 2>like he was an elderly old man at old folks home.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>being honest about it. And clearly he witnessed how bad

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<v Speaker 2>it was. Then does is he the guy that has

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<v Speaker 2>to look at Michelle Night going I'd do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can I've already been president for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be you, honey.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, let me break it to two pieces. Let me

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<v Speaker 18>tell you why it has to be Michelle. It has

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<v Speaker 18>to be Michelle because of Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is

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<v Speaker 18>the VP. If you push Joe Biden aside, Kamala's.

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<v Speaker 14>Next in line.

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<v Speaker 18>The people who say we want Gavin Newsom. You know

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<v Speaker 18>what if the Democrat Party pushes an African American woman

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<v Speaker 18>aside and replaces her with a white guy, their party implodes.

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<v Speaker 18>They cannot do it. They are bean counters and they

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<v Speaker 18>are faced. It's actually what forced Joe Biden to pick

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<v Speaker 18>Kamala in the first place. He backed himself into it.

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<v Speaker 18>He doesn't like Kamala. And the problem Democrats are having

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 18>that now is they're looking at Joe Biden. They're saying,

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<v Speaker 18>oh my goodness, this guy cannot be our nominee. And

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 18>they look at Kamala and they recognize she's a terrible nominee.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 18>And if she's the nominee, they know they'll lose. And

0:36:55.680 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 18>so their problem is the only person on planet Earth

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<v Speaker 18>who can push Kamala Harris aside is Michelle Obama, another

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<v Speaker 18>African American woman who stands on a different footing as

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 18>a former first Lady. Now, what are the impediments that

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<v Speaker 18>stop it? The impediments are twofold number one, Michelle says no,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 18>number two. Joe Biden says no. On the Michelle says no.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 18>I think you're gonna have Barrock coming to her. I

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 18>think you're gonna have a lot of Democrat kingmakers coming

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 18>to her. And the pitch is gonna be Michelle, you

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 18>need to save America. Michelle, We need you, Michelle. If

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 18>you do not step forward, Donald Trump is going to

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 18>be president. Michelle, you are the only person on planet

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 18>Earth that can save the world from a Donald Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 14>And listen.

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<v Speaker 18>People perceive Michelle Obama as somewhat nonpartisan because she was

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<v Speaker 18>a first late in first Ladies kind of stay out

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 18>of politics. I think she is more radical than Barack is.

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 18>I think she is an ideologue. I think she is

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<v Speaker 18>a leftist. You remember when when Barack Obama was running

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 18>and she talked about his getting elected was the first

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 18>most time in her life she was proud of her country.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 18>I think she embraces hardcore leftism, but a lot of

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 18>people don't know that. And so the pitch to her

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 18>is going to be Save America. And then the pitch

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<v Speaker 18>to Joe Biden. She's got to say yes number one.

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<v Speaker 18>And then too, Joe Biden has got to agree to

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 18>step aside. And I think you're going to see in

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 18>the coming days. You know, you played my prediction from

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 18>September of twenty twenty three. The only thing I might

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 18>have gotten wrong is I said that this would happen

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 18>in August of twenty twenty four. It may be July

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 18>of twenty twenty four. I may have been a month

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 18>off in the timing. Because this debate I think changed

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 18>the fundamental terrain.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Let's also talk about there was two moments that I

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>think really speak to the demise of the cognitive clin

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>of Joe Biden. And it was subtle but significant, and

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to get your reaction to it. There was

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 2>one moment when he was asked about social Security and

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 2>he gave a very very short answer and then the

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.919
<v Speaker 2>moderators looked at him like what you doing? You still

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>have I think they said eighty four seconds left or

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 2>something like that. There was another time he was talking

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 2>about African American voters, African American community, and African American issues.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, sir, you still have like another minute

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and xmber of seconds, sixty four seconds left.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't even.

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<v Speaker 18>By the way, he spent eight days at Camp David

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<v Speaker 18>preparing and he could not fill the two minutes with

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 18>it a the.

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<v Speaker 2>Two minutes on two vitally important issues like social Security.

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Any politician should be able to fill for two minutes.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you should be able to fill.

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<v Speaker 18>These were not subtle, These were not gotcha's, These were

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 18>obvious questions. He had nothing to say. He was scared.

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 18>He was a deer in the headlights.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said, deer in headlights. Let's go to the

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 2>next conversation that's being had right now. And I'm sure

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 2>it's being had at the White House, at the EOB,

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 2>at the campaign headquarters. Who goes to the president first

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and says step down? And then you're also dealing with

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 2>every guy that's ever very stubborn though like he can

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>just can't he just look at him say I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 18>He is absolutely stubborn. I think it is BARACKO Bob.

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 18>I think it is Nancy Pelosi. I think it is

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 18>Chuck Schumer. I think it is every leader in the

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 18>Democrat Party. It's not Kamala Harris Kamo is not allowed

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 18>in the room, but I think it is. And they

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.959
<v Speaker 18>go to him and they're pitch to him. They say, Joe,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 18>you were an historic president, you saved America from Donald Trump.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 18>You wanted to be the next FDR. I think they

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 18>will they will appeal to his vanity and say you

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 18>are the next to FDR. You are consequential right now.

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 18>If you stay in the race, you risk undoing your

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 18>entire legacy and giving that legacy going down in history

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 18>as the man who made Donald Trump president. If you

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 18>stay in this race, it will be your fault that

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 18>Trump is president. I think they'll appeal to his vanity

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 18>and look that that is. I think to Joe bideny

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 18>really powerful pitch. Look you look at the debate tonight.

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 18>He said things. At one point, he said, during Trump's presidency,

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 18>we had a thousand trillionaire. By the way, there are

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 18>no trillionaires on planet Earth. At another point, he said,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 18>during Donald Trump, we had fifty percent unemployment.

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 14>No, that is wildly wrong.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 18>At another part, he said, he created Joe Biden created

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.760
<v Speaker 18>hundreds of millions of jobs. Mind you, there three hundred

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 18>and thirty million Americans, and apparently he's created hundreds of

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 18>millions of jobs, so more more jobs than there are

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 18>working Americans. Like it is, every answer was a problem.

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 18>At another point, he said, the Border Patrol endorsed me.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 14>Let's be clear.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 18>The Border Patrol Union immediately tweeted out to be clear,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 18>we have never and will never endorse Biden at every stage.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 18>And what's interesting, he was also trying to insult Trump. Yeah,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 18>and Trump didn't take the bait. Yeah, and he was smart.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 18>It was really at actually when Trump poked Biden, Biden

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 18>freaked out. He couldn't not take the bait. And so

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 18>the contrast, and I'll say something else. You mentioned African

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 18>American votes. Trump's number are surging in the black community,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 18>and I think tonight he made a very hard pitch

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 18>for black voters, and his most significant pitch. He had

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 18>a lot of points about how bad Trump, how bad

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 18>Biden has been for the African American community, talked about inflation,

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.959
<v Speaker 18>how it's hammering black families. But then he also tied

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 18>it to illegal immigration, and he said, look that the

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 18>millions and millions of ill immigrants that are coming into

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 18>this country, they're taking jobs from black Americans. That is

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.439
<v Speaker 18>a powerful argument. That is an argument. And by the way,

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 18>Biden had no response to that. It was silent. It

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 18>was on the substance. Trump prosecuted the case and Biden

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 18>crashed and burned. And in fact, the Wall Street Journal

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 18>just sent out their key takeaway, their story that they

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 18>wrote tonight, and it's now ten forty seven pm, and

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 18>their headline is Biden crashed in first debate with Trump.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 18>That's not an editorial, that's the news headline in the

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 18>Wall Street Journal because it is just a objectively if

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 18>you watch the Hennenburg explode, you don't say Zeppelin landed tonight.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, well, let's also talk about those that have been lying.

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>The media center has been lying, congressmen have been lying,

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>staff members have been lying. They've been going on TV

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 2>telling you that Joe Biden can run circles around me.

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.919
<v Speaker 2>The White House Press Secretary saying over and over again

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 2>saying there's no cognitive decline here, saying that he's in

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 2>perfect health. This guy is is a beast. He's you know,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>he's jacked up aviator Joe. Now they're all actually having

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to admit they're wrong, But no one's gonna I think

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>call them accountable for that. They're just gonna run out

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>there and say, clearly, it's time for him to step aside,

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:45.879
<v Speaker 2>step aside, step aside, which is also weird because if

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you're not cognitive, you don't have the cognitibility to be

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>president in the future. Right, and they're saying he can't

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 2>be the president come January again, then when does the

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth and does that even come up? Because you're

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>admitting that he's basically incapacitated.

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 18>Now, Yeah, listen, we have seen reporters and we've seen

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 18>Democrats lying about Joe's mental capacity for a long time,

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 18>and nobody fair and objective who watched tonight could conclude

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 18>anything other than this is a man who is seriously

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 18>mentally diminished.

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 18>It's interesting Andrew Yang, who you remember, ran for president

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 18>against Joe in twenty twenty, he tweeted out tonight quote, look,

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 18>I debated Joe seven times in twenty twenty.

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 14>He's a different guy.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 18>In twenty twenty four, hashtag swap Joe out that that's

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 18>from one of the alternative one of the other candidates

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 18>who ran against twenty twenty, from a prominent Democrat. Two

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 18>of the top trends that were trending tonight right after

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 18>the debate were dementia and Michelle Obama. Now that's bad news.

0:44:54.719 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 18>I's if that's what's what is And all right, I

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 18>want to wrap up tonight's pod with this. I'm going

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 18>to do something I have rarely, if ever done. I

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 18>may never have done this before. I'm going to praise

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 18>CNN this morning's debate. You and I both thought Jake

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 18>Tapper and Dana Bash would do a terrible job. They

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 18>both hate Donald Trump, they both have become hard partisans.

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 18>CNN did an excellent job tonight with this debate. Jake

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 18>Tapper and Dana Bash. That was the best debate moderation

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 18>they have ever done. They ask good questions, they asked

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 18>substantive questions. They didn't make the debate about them. One

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 18>of the interesting things no one is debating about the

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 18>moderators bad debate moderators. When Chris Wallace debated moderated, the

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 18>whole debate was about him because he wanted to be

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 18>right in the center of the show. When Candy Crowley

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:56.720
<v Speaker 18>from CNN was the moderator between Obama and Mitt Romney,

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 18>she made it all about her. Jake and they ask

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 18>good questions, they moved subjects along. They would press the candidates,

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 18>but not in a jerky way. They just say, I

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 18>asked you the following question. You have another sixty seconds

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 18>to answer it. When they didn't get their questions answered,

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 18>that's a perfectly reasonable thing for a debate moderator to do.

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 18>I've been in multiple debates that each of them have moderated.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:24.479
<v Speaker 18>I think they both were incredibly sensitive to everyone laying

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 18>out the facts that they have shown wild bias, and

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 18>tonight tonight they didn't, and they did an excellent job,

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.080
<v Speaker 18>and I think that was a service to the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask you one other question, because everyone's

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>asking it in their head right now, what is the

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 2>hold on a second?

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 10>Ben?

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<v Speaker 18>You didn't respond to that, and since you're a former

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 18>employee of CNN, I'm not gonna let you bet. Ben,

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 18>you have sixty two seconds. The question is do you

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 18>think Jake and Danna did a good job.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 2>I think they did a decent job. And here's why

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:54.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna get them as much cur as you did.

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>You ready for this, all right, but I'm gonna make

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you answer it.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 14>I'm not gonna let you wiggle away.

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>For Here's what I'll say.

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I think they were in as much shock as we were, going,

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I'm watching an incapacitated president of the United

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>States of America. And they were caught so off guard.

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>They said, just stick to the script, just stick the script,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Just stick the script, like it was a default mode.

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Because it was such a glaring disaster with Biden that

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 2>no one, no, none of the moderators were honestly paying

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>attention to Donald Trump.

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 14>Yes, but.

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 18>Jake and Dana were more measured than I've ever seen them.

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 18>They were deliberately controlled. They knew that half the country

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.839
<v Speaker 18>viewed them as wild eyed partisans. Look, we played this

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 18>morning Jake analogizing Trump to Adolf Hitler. Yes, and I

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 18>still believe that to I think he believes it. But

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 18>tonight that didn't come out. And so if we're going

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 18>to criticize him when when he's not doing a good job,

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 18>I will say, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think think that they did their job.

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Think the biggest political train wreck in American history, and

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 2>they were in it and it was like, I don't

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 2>know what to do.

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>How do you triage this? And so they got rid

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of some of that.

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I think if Joe Biden would have showed up jacked

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 2>up like you did at the say of the Union.

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been a complete different debate

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>from the moderator standpoint. But I think they saw what

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 2>everybody else saw, which was we have a present that

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>is incapacitated and the whole world is watching it now

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<v Speaker 2>and no one can stop it. There was no one

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<v Speaker 2>to step in and lead him off the stage like

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<v Speaker 2>Barack Obama did two weeks ago, Which brings me back

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<v Speaker 2>to that question that everyone's asking, how quickly will we

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<v Speaker 2>find out if the conversations with Joe Biden are going

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<v Speaker 2>to work to get him to step aside?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And number two, how quickly do Democrats have to fall

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<v Speaker 2>back in line and stick with this guy if he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't decide to step down? And those are the two

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<v Speaker 2>most important questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the entire.

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<v Speaker 18>Night, three weeks, twenty one days, this happens or doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 14>In three weeks.

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<v Speaker 18>I think you're gonna have massive chaos following this debate.

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<v Speaker 18>You're gonna have massive panic. People are gonna go to

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<v Speaker 18>Michelle Obama, people are going to go to Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't think given the train wreck that happened tonight.

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<v Speaker 18>I don't think they'll wait until after the Democrat Convention.

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<v Speaker 18>I think they feel a panic right now. I think

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<v Speaker 18>they're gonna want Michelle Obama to be the keynote speaker

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<v Speaker 18>at the Democrat Convention, not Joe Biden. So I think

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<v Speaker 18>we have twenty one days for this to play out.

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<v Speaker 18>And look over the course of the last year, I've

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<v Speaker 18>handicapped this. I initially laid it out as a possibility,

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<v Speaker 18>then shifted as the Democrats and the media we're starting

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<v Speaker 18>to get nervous about Joe Biden. I shifted to about

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<v Speaker 18>fifty percent. As we sit here today, I put the

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<v Speaker 18>odds at north of eighty percent that Michelle Obama is

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<v Speaker 18>the Democrat nominee on the ballot in November of this year.

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