1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Total and utter disaster. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Democrats now calling for replacing Joe Biden, calling an operation 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Replace Sleepy Joe. Dems are now scrambling with just one 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty days to go, and the White House 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: is trying to spend the worst performance in president's debate 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: history as quote, Joe has a cold. That's right, It's 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: just a cold, folks, coming from NBC News Biden Trump 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four debate. Well, the President had a cold, 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: but don't worry. Biden tested negative for COVID. Quote sources say. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Two sources familiar with the situation confirming to see it 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: in or NBC News that President Joe Biden has a cold. 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Biden was a minister of COVID tests, which was negative. 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: Three sources confirm. Yeh, that's why Biden sounded horse throughout 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: the debate. That is exactly how they're going to try 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: to spend this. So really it was totally fine to 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: see here, right, how bad was this debate? Democrats afterwards 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: coming out and the first person you heard from on CNN, 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: John King, put it this way. 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: It's into the debate and it continues right now. It 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: involves party strategists, it involves elected officials. It involves fundraisers, 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: about what they should do about it. Some of those 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: conversations include should we go to the White House and 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: ask the president's step aside or other of the conversations 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: are about should prominent Democrats go public with that call 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: because they feel this debate was so terrible. 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: They do say in moments in the debate. 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: Later the president got better and got his footing, but 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: then at the end, even his closing statement was a 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: little halting the contrast between the two candidates. Let me 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,919 Speaker 3: be clear, none of them and a lot of Republicans 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: don't think Donald Trump had a great night. 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: Donald Trump broke. 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 3: The fact check machine more than I can count tonight. 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: That will be on the record we go forward. He 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: refused to answer some very specific and direct questions about 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: his conduct about January. 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: Sixth and what all, So that will be dealt with 41 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: out there. And sometimes there's a parallel. 42 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: Universe between the political elites and the American people. Be 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: nice to see what the voters say, but I can. 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: Tell you it started minutes in. 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: It started with the first couple of answers, and it 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: has continued throughout the night from oh my god, Oh 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: my god, Oh my god, to what do we do 48 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: about this? And it involves very senior people in the 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying we have a problem, 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: and just. 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: We have a problem. 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Joe Biden in one of those moments was this where 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: it looked like he blew a fuse on national TV. 54 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: And yes, Democrats have been lying to telling you, oh, 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's fine. The White House, Saggie's as sharp as ever, 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: runs circles around his staff in an entire week to 57 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: plan for this at Camp David. And this is the 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Joe Biden that showed up, and they want you to 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: believe it was just because he had a cold. Listen 60 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: to this. 61 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: Get sure that we continue to suppend in our healthcare system, 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 5: making sure that we're able to make every single solitary 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: person are eligible for what I've been able to do 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 5: with the with the COVID, I excuse me, with dealing 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 5: with everything we have to do with Look if we 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: finally beat medicare. 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, President Bob Biden. President Trump, He's right. 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 6: He did beat medicare, beat it to death. And he's 69 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 6: destroying medicare because all of these people are coming in, 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: they're putting them on Medicare, They're putting them on social Security. 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 6: They're going to destroy social Security. This man is going 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 6: to single handedly destroy social Security. These millions and millions 73 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 6: of people coming in, they're trying to put them on 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 6: Social Security. He will wipe out social Security. He will 75 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 6: wipe out Medicare. 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to debate, you know just how 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: bad that moment was. 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: You know that it looked like a man who completely 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: lost his train of thought, didn't know where he was, 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: didn't know what he was talking about, and then brought 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: up Medicare. Now, Donald Trump there could have gone after 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: him saying what are you doing? Do you even know 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: where you are? He didn't. He went in on Medicare 84 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: and used a smart line there. But there was also 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: another part in the debate, and it was a moment 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: when the slurring of the words and the cognitive decline 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden was very evident to everyone watching. This 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: is the disaster that John King just mentioned, and listen 89 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: to how the President responded to this. 90 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 5: Across the border illegally. That's better than when he left office. 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 5: And I'm going to continue to move until we get 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: the total band on, the total initiative relative to what 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 5: we're gonna do with more border patrol and more a 94 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 5: cybum officers. 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 6: I really don't know what he said at the end 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 6: of this, and I don't think he knows what he 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 6: said either. 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: Look, I don't think he knows what he said either. 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: It was a great way of handling it, and then 100 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: immediately the president moved on to the border, which is 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: exactly what he should have done, is to move on 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: very quickly from that and just be like, I don't 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: think he knows what he's saying, but he said it, 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: and the fact that he didn't harp on it, I 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: actually think was even more damning. See him in after 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: the debate and they were the host, right, so they're 107 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: losing their minds. Here is what Aaron Burnett had to 108 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: say on Joe Biden's debate. 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 7: He goes through six days of preparation a campaign, and 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 7: they know the rules more than a week, okay, and 111 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 7: so more than a week they know the rules. He 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 7: practices with the mics. He knows every one of these 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 7: questions is coming, and yet he couldn't fill the time. 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 7: Now that I just want to, let's see what the 115 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 7: White House is saying. Sourceus goes to the White House 116 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 7: are saying he had a cold, wasn't feeling well. I mean, 117 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 7: as you expect, that came out early on in the debate. 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 7: But what accounts for someone with so much experience, doing 119 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 7: so much preparation, and this. 120 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: Thing the outcome honestly, the questor and answers itself, he 121 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: wasn't capable of doing any better than he did. 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: Aaron Burnett, former colleague of mine when I was at CNN. 123 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 2: She's angry. 124 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? 125 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: She's like, he goes through six days of preparation of 126 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: Camp David. They know the rules, he practices with the mics. 127 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: He knows every one of these questions is coming, which 128 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: by the way, that screams like, well, will you guys 129 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: give him the questions? 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: And yet he couldn't fill the time. 131 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: He couldn't fill the time on Social Security, they looked 132 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: like you got another like eighty two seconds, man, eighty 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: four seconds? Another question about African Americans, like you got 134 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: another minute? 135 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: You like you want to keep talking. 136 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: Mister president, you can't fill two minutes of time about 137 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: two extremely important issues. How is that even possible? How 138 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: is it even possible that you can't fill the time. 139 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: And yet here we are, and this is the conversation 140 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: that wasn't all that was said on CNN about this 141 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: as well? And again I'm playing CNN because they were 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: the host of debate and CNN is carrying water for 143 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: Listen some of them. 145 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 8: He said, he's the only president in a while who 146 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 8: didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world. 147 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 9: Troops have, of course, died on his watch. 148 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 8: He said, He's put in a fifteen dollars per shot 149 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 8: cap on insulin and Medicare. 150 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 9: It's a thirty five dollars a month cap. 151 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 8: He said, It's a two hundred dollars cap on overall 152 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 8: drug spending in Medicare. It's two thousand dollars a year. 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 8: He said the border now has fewer crossings than when 154 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 8: Trump was in office. That's generally not true, he said, 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 8: or at least strongly suggested. Unemployment was that fifteen percent 156 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 8: when he took office, it was actually six point four. 157 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 8: He said, Trump's want Trump wants to get rid of 158 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 8: Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said, billionaires pay eight point 159 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 8: two percent in taxes. 160 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 9: It's much higher. 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 8: He said Trump told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID. 162 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 8: We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection, 163 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 8: but didn't frame it as advice to people. 164 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 9: And Biden said the Border Patrol endorsed him. 165 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 8: No, it's union supported the border bill he'd supported, never 166 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 8: endorsed him himself. 167 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Again fact checking. This is CNN fact checking Joe Biden. 168 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: I like rapture alert. Now it's not really a rapture alert. 169 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: You need to understand why they're doing this. Okay, why 170 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: why this conversation's happening. It's because they want to replace him, 171 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: and so now they have to do this to replace him. 172 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: CNN watching it. I said this when I was watching 173 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: it right away with Cinder Cruz and and and one 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 2: of the things that I was as I was watching 175 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: it was like, this is like watching a funeral of 176 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: someone who's still alive. 177 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: A great example of it was. 178 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: This there there is no two ways about it. 179 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: That was not a good debate for Joe Biden. 180 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: Man. That was painful. 181 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 10: I love Joe Biden. I worked for Joe Biden. He 182 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 10: didn't do well at all. He did not do well 183 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 10: at all, and he looked, Yeah, I'll give you the analysis. 184 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 10: You kind of have the old man versus the con 185 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 10: and I can walk you through how I'm supposed to 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 10: see it and say it, but I'm just want to 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 10: speak from our heart. I love that guy as a 188 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 10: good man. He loves his country. He's doing the best 189 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 10: that he can. But he had a test to meet 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 10: tonight to restore confidence of the country and of the base, and. 191 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 9: He failed to do that. 192 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 10: And I think there's a lot of people who are 193 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 10: going to want to see him. 194 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: Consider taking a different course. 195 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 10: Now we're still far from our convention, and there is 196 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 10: time for this party to figure out a different way 197 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 10: for it, if you will allow us to do that. 198 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 10: But that was not what we needed from Joe Biden. 199 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 10: And it's personally painful for a lot of people. It's 200 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 10: not just panic, it's pain for what we saw at night. 201 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: It's a funeral, y'all. Like this is a funeral. 202 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: You're witnessing the Democratic Party saying we're going to throw 203 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: you out now. By the way, if you want to, 204 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: you know who's thrilled tonight. It's got to be Gavin Newsom. 205 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom was asked because he thinks he could be 206 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: the guy. Listen to Gavin Newsom quickly. 207 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 11: Are you going to be the next Democratic nomineed? 208 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 4: No, we are nominee as Joe Biden. 209 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to voting for him in November. 210 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: He's going to be our num because. 211 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 12: You know that everyone we're talking about you as a 212 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 12: possible nominia. 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Thanks, he said, Oh, I appreciate that. 214 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: That is below the CNN debate headquarters tonight, this reporter 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: asking Gavin Newsom, are you going to be the next 216 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: Democratic nominee? That's his answer while he was glowing and 217 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: grinning from ear to ear. Let's also talk about America's 218 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: reaction to all this. Forget CNN for a second. What 219 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: did America say who won the debate? With debate watchers 220 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: and a CNN poll that was conducted tonight right after 221 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: the debate, their poll number says this, you ready, this 222 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Who won the first debate? Donald Trump sixty 223 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: seven percent, Joe Biden thirty three percent. Now there's thirty 224 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: three percent of the country that are hardcore Democrats they 225 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: talk to that we're not gonna admit that Donald Trump won. Right, 226 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: they're partisan hacks. They're not going to ever admit that 227 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump won. And that's the way that thirty three 228 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: percent comes fromp the sixty seven percent of the public 229 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: that says Donald Trump won. That is the number that 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: everybody right now should in fact be talking about, because 231 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: this number is truly incredible. Scott Jennings over at CNN 232 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: also when he was asked about this, like how bad 233 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: this is? 234 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 13: Listen told for weeks weeks by Democrats who say, oh, 235 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 13: in private meetings, I've seen Joe Biden do cartwheels and 236 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 13: handstands while doing trigonometry while solving all the nation's problems. 237 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 13: We now know that every single person who said that 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 13: has been lying to the America people. 239 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: There are a lot of Democrats who've been lying to 240 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: each and every one of us. It's a point that 241 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: I said during the debate with Center Cruz, and you're 242 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: gonna hear that our conversation in a moment. But this 243 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: is a everybody that went on stage, okay, everybody that 244 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: went on TV, everybody that went out there defending Joe 245 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Biden until tonight when clearly the lights were out, nobody 246 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: was home, and Joe Biden's head, they were all lying 247 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: to you like, oh, he's in great and everything's wonderful, 248 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: everything's amazing, and look, you can't like, you can't tell 249 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: people that what they saw tonight was not what they 250 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: saw tonight, like they saw a man that was completely lost. 251 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: And that's the reason why in that moment, I think, 252 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: I really do. I think the point of the night 253 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: that was the biggest line of all that won Joe 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Biden a seat to the exit ramp of the Democratic 255 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Party and one Donald Trump. 256 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: The entire night was this moment. 257 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 5: Continue to move until we get the total ban on 258 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: the total initiative relative to what we're gonna do with 259 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: more border patrol and more a cybum officers. 260 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 6: President Trump, I really don't know what he said at 261 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 6: the end of this, and I don't think he knows 262 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 6: what he said either. 263 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he knows what he said either. And 264 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: did you notice that he didn't fight back? 265 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 14: Right? 266 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: Did you notice what was said? He didn't fight back. 267 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: Quaeren mccaskell hardcore Lefty On with Rachel Maddout a night 268 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: on MSNBC for their coverage. Listen to what she said. 269 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 12: Well, first, the easy part, Donald Trump is a liar, 270 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 12: a flawed character, mean, a jerk, very unlikable, and that 271 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 12: was obvious tonight. Now the horn and heartbreaking part. I 272 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 12: have been a surrogate for some presidential candidates in my time. 273 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 12: I know what the job is after a debate of 274 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 12: a surrogate. I've never wanted to be a surrogate more 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 12: than I do right now, because when you're a surrogate 276 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 12: you have to focus on the positives. But I have 277 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 12: said very clearly and very plainly on this network, and 278 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 12: my job now is to be really honest. Joe Biden 279 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 12: had one thing he had to do tonight and he 280 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 12: didn't do it. He had one thing he had to accomplish, 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 12: and that was reassure America that he was up to 282 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 12: the job at his age, and he failed at that tonight. 283 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 12: Now does that mean that my phone blowing up with 284 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 12: senators and campaign operatives and donors, big donors from all 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 12: over the country. Does that mean that Joe Biden is 286 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 12: not going to be the candidate? I don't know that. 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 12: I think we'll know a lot more in a few 288 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 12: weeks how this plays out, how the polling plays out. 289 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 12: But I think a couple of things are going on 290 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 12: right now. I think I'm not the only one whose 291 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 12: heart is breaking right now. There's a lot of people 292 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 12: who watch this tonight and felt terribly for Joe Biden. 293 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 12: And you know, you have to ask, how did. 294 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 9: We get here? 295 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 12: How do we get to the point that we're spending 296 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 12: a whole lot of time talking about the vice president 297 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 12: tonight instead of talking about the president. And I don't 298 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 12: know how the rest of this story is written. I 299 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 12: don't know if things can be done to fix this. 300 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 12: They might, and you know, Trump is so terrible that 301 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 12: this might heal itself. But based on what I'm hearing 302 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 12: from a lot of people, and some of them are 303 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 12: people that are in high elective offices in this country, 304 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 12: and you might guess where they serve, there is a 305 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 12: lot of more than hand ringing tonight. 306 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I did more than hand ringing. 307 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: She's either referring to Chuck Shimmer and Kama Harris are 308 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: both folks. She's making it clear in the statement she 309 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: just made. 310 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: And again, who won the debate? 311 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: Seeing it on TV, having to tell you, yes, Donald 312 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: Trump beat the crap out of Joe Biden. 313 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: Who won the debate? 314 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 15: We asked debate watchers in our instant poll and the 315 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 15: answer is a resounding Donald Trump did. Sixty seven percent 316 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 15: of debate watchers in our poll say Donald Trump won 317 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 15: the debate tonight. Joe Biden thirty three percent say he 318 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 15: won the debate tonight. Now, this group of debate watchers, 319 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 15: they told us who they thought would win the debate 320 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 15: going into it, before the debate, and take a look 321 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 15: at how that changed over time. Fifty five percent thought 322 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 15: before the debate that Donald Trump would win the debate. 323 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 15: Forty five percent thought Joe Biden would win the debate. 324 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: There is no way to get out of what everyone 325 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: just witnessed tonight. There's no way to get around just 326 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: how bad this is. Joe bat Biden. You can you 327 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: can say all you want. Okay, you can. You can 328 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: say all that you want that he had a cold. 329 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: And by the way, the first lady looking at Joe Biden, 330 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: this is what they said. 331 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: They're after party. It's just listen to this. 332 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 16: Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question. 333 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 16: Can you know, let me ask the crowd. 334 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 14: What did Trump do? 335 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Maybe she's going to be the candidate now Joe Biden's 336 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: out there at their party there after party in Atlanta, 337 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: and you've got the first lady who's saying, you answered 338 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: every question, you knew the facts, and what did what 339 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: did Donald Trump do? 340 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: He lied? 341 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there in a room not realizing they're 342 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: at a funeral. They're at a funeral for him, Like 343 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: that's it, Chuck. By the way, Chuck Todd at NBC 344 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: News describing it this way, even though they're saying on 345 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: stage right now, oh no, everything's fine. 346 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 13: You know. 347 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 17: One of the things was, would either candidate look like 348 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 17: the caricature that the other campaign has been trying to 349 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 17: paint of him? And at the end of the day, 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 17: Joe Biden looks like the caricature that conservative media has 351 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 17: been painting. And there were no clips tonight, right this 352 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 17: was you saw it before your eyes. Look, I don't 353 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 17: want to just tell you what I think here, Tom. 354 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 17: I've been talking to a lot of leaders in the 355 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 17: Democratic Party, elected coalition leaders. There's a full on panic 356 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 17: about this performance, not like, oh, this is recoverable. It 357 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 17: is more of a okay, he's got a step aside. 358 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 17: There's a lot of that chatter. 359 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 4: This is about as bad. 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 17: Of a performance in order to do that, Biden could 361 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 17: have delivered. 362 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: If his goal was. 363 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 17: To try to sort of calm the waters among Democrats. 364 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: I mean, look the. 365 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: This is chick tod saying this at MSNBC Mark Levin, 366 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: who's a dear friend of mine and a mentor. He said, 367 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: think of all the public people who've intentionally lied to 368 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: the American people. Think of all the public people, all 369 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: the elected officials, everybody around the president who just straight 370 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: up lied to you and told you that this guy 371 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: was in great shape. Who's running the country. That's the 372 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: other question, like who is running the country? Who's running 373 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: the country. I want to bring in Senator Ted Cruz. 374 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: We did an instant response to this, and I want 375 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: you to hear our conversation. 376 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: Center. 377 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: I want to get to some of the highlights. But 378 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: even before we get to the debate, I think the 379 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: most shocking part is what happened directly after the debate. 380 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: This was the first thing that America heard on CNN, 381 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: the host of the debate. 382 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: It's into the debate and it continues right now. It 383 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers, 384 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they 385 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people 386 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations 387 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: about what they should do about it. 388 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: Some of those conversations include. 389 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 3: Should we go to the White House and ask the 390 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: president's step aside? Or other of the conversations are about 391 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: should prominent Democrats go public with that call because they 392 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: feel this debate was so terrible. 393 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: They do say in moments in the debate. 394 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Later the president got better and got his footing, but 395 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: then at the end, even his closing statement was a 396 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: little halting the contrast between the two candidates. Let me 397 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: be clear, none of them and a lot of Republicans 398 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: don't think Donald Trump had a great night. Trump broke 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: the fact check machine more than I can count tonight. 400 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 3: That will be on the record as we go forward. 401 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: He refused to answer some very specific and direct questions 402 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: about his conduct about January sixth and what all. So 403 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: that will be dealt with out there. And sometimes there's 404 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: a parallel universe between the political elites and the American people. 405 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Be nice to see what the voters say, but I 406 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: can tell you it started minutes in. It started with 407 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: the first couple of answers, and it has continued throughout 408 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: the night from oh my god, Oh my god, Oh 409 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: my god, to what do we do about this? And 410 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party, including 411 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: elected officials, saying we have a problem. 412 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: And just we have a problem. 413 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: They're moving actively right now to replace Joe Biden, saying 414 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: we've got time before the convention, which is exactly what 415 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: you predicted on this show nine months ago. 416 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 18: Well, let me say what you played just there. I 417 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 18: agree with half of it, and I disagree with half 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 18: of it. What I do agree with is that Joe 419 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 18: Biden did unbelievably badly. That the degree of dementia he 420 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 18: is facing right now now, it is escalated to a 421 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 18: point that it is unrecognizable. And I think there are 422 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 18: a great many Democrats who are looking at this saying 423 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 18: we cannot nominate this man. He is not capable. He 424 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 18: doesn't know what's going on. In a second, we're going 425 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 18: to play a couple of clips that show that. But 426 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 18: it was I will say, as badly as I thought 427 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 18: Joe Biden was going to do, he did worse. It 428 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 18: was stunning. I've never seen a debate performance this bad. 429 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 18: But the part I disagree of what you just played 430 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 18: is I think Donald Trump had hands down his best 431 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 18: debate performance he has ever had in his life. Look, 432 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 18: I've stood on that stage with Donald Trump about a 433 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 18: dozen times, and I've seen him and sometimes he said 434 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 18: good debates. Sometimes he's had less than good debates. Tonight 435 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 18: he did exactly what earlier this morning, you and I 436 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 18: did a special podcast preparing for this debate, and what 437 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 18: you and I talked about that Trump needed to do 438 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 18: is be calm, be measured, be under control, not interrupt 439 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 18: Joe Biden, let him hang himself, give him the airtime 440 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 18: to talk. And Trump did that spectacularly. He was restrained, 441 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 18: even as Biden was saying ridiculous things. He was restrained, 442 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 18: he was calmed, he was matter of fact. He prosecuted 443 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 18: the case, and Biden couldn't handle it. Biden repeatedly, what 444 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 18: was screaming, You're a liar, You're lying. You could I mean, 445 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 18: he was there were moments. Look, it's clear we talked 446 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 18: before about the meds. They had him on meds. They 447 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 18: put him on different meds from the State of the Union. 448 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 18: He was not nearly as amped up as he was 449 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 18: at the State of the Union. But when Trump poked 450 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 18: him and he got angry, Biden couldn't respond other than 451 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 18: just screaming, liar, liar, liar. And he returned to the 452 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 18: State of the Union, old man on his front porch screaming, 453 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 18: get off my front port. She had moments like that, 454 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 18: But that's not even the dominant takeaway. The dominant takeaway 455 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 18: is this is a man who doesn't know what's going 456 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 18: on here. 457 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 14: I want to play the clip early in the day 458 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 14: bait where he just. 459 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 18: Completely loses his train of thought, and this is the 460 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 18: answer at which I think people all over the country said, Uh, oh, 461 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 18: this guy's just not there. 462 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 14: Give a listen. 463 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: I s could be with dealing with everything we have 464 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 5: to do with Uh look, if we finally beat medicare. 465 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: We finally beat medicare. I mean Donald Trump's response was quote, 466 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: I don't I really don't know what he said at 467 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows 468 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: what he said either, And Joe Biden dishes so. 469 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 18: Ben he actually didn't say that in response to that comment. 470 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 18: That was in response to a statement later that he 471 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 18: said that was completely incoherent. This was the first one, 472 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 18: and Biden gets lost and and Trump counters with what 473 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 18: he counters to, that is and by the way, the 474 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 18: question had nothing to do with medicare. Like the word 475 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 18: medicare comes completely out of left field. It's the only 476 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 18: thing he mentioned. He's just like, we finally beat medicare. 477 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 18: And then Trump cames and said, well, he said at 478 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 18: the end, he beat medicare, he beat it to death. 479 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 18: Give a listen to Trump's response. Play the next clip. 480 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 5: All those things we need to do, childcare, eldercare, making 481 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 5: sure that we continue to suppend strength in our healthcare system, 482 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 5: making sure that we're able to make every single solitary 483 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 5: person eligible for what I've been able to do with 484 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: the UH, with the COVID, I sculd be with dealing 485 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 5: with everything we have to do with Look, if we 486 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 5: finally beat medicare. 487 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: Thank you, President Biden. 488 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: President Trump, Well, he's right, he did beat medicare, beat 489 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 6: it to death. And he's destroying Medicare because all of 490 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: these people are coming in, they're putting them on Medicare, 491 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 6: They're putting them on. 492 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you hear that. He just stopped. Didn't know 493 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: what he was doing. And if you look at the 494 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: look on his face. Senator Joe Biden actually looked lost 495 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: and was looking around like what. 496 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: Am I doing? Am I? 497 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 18: His brain was frozen. It short circuited throughout the time. 498 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 18: I'll tell you Joe Biden did badly when he wasn't talking. 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 18: When he wasn't talking, the look on his face was 500 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 18: a look of confusion. Listen, anyone who's ever dealt with 501 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 18: with an elderly parent, an elderly grandparent who's dealing with 502 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 18: the loss of their faculties knows that look. My grandmother Miabuela, 503 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 18: whom I love, she had Alzheimer's. I've seen, I've seen 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 18: what happens. It was clear he didn't know what was 505 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 18: going on. He was just confused. And even his most 506 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 18: passionate defenders, they can't defend them all right, Maria Shriver. 507 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: I just saw this. Kene Kennedy, Yeah, I just saw this. 508 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 18: Democrat Democrat Royalty. Let me read you what she just 509 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 18: tweeted moments ago. Quote, I love Joe Biden. I know 510 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 18: he's a good man. I know his heart is good. 511 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 18: I know is dedicated to our country and is surrounded 512 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 18: by good people. Tonight was heartbreaking in many ways. This 513 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 18: is a big political moment. There's panic in the Democratic Party. 514 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 18: It's going to be a long night. The Democrats have 515 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 18: lost Maria Shriver, that's a problem. 516 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, and listen to Abbi Phillips. 517 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: Abby Phillips saying this on CNN as well in the 518 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: moments afterwards. This is how she described how bad it 519 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: was for Joe Biden. 520 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 11: And just to co sign what John is saying. I mean, 521 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 11: the panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not 522 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 11: like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far, 523 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 11: and a lot of it has to do with First 524 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 11: of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies. 525 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 9: I mean, he lied a lot tonight. 526 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 11: But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able 527 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 11: to take sometimes incredible falsehoods and turn them into some 528 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 11: kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in a lot 529 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 11: of cases not coherent, deeply problematic, that he was not 530 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 11: able to take pretty straightforward answers and answer them to. 531 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 14: The that's CNN. 532 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 18: That is CNN who's saying the Democrats are panicking, and 533 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 18: Biden's answers where in a lot of cases not go here, 534 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 18: all right, play Van Jones, Van Jones, this is the 535 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 18: hard left here. He's on CNN. Listen, here's what Van 536 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 18: Jones had to say. 537 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 10: I was painful. I love Joe Biden. I worked for 538 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 10: Joe Biden. He didn't do well at all. He did 539 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 10: not do well at all. 540 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: It's like a funeral. It's like you're watching a funeral 541 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: in real time on CNN. And this is their instant reaction. 542 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: These are the first voices that America heard after the debate. 543 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: Drudge Report, for example, which used to be pretty conservative center, 544 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: now they really hate Donald Trump. Their headline right now 545 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: is operation Replace Biden, dim scramble with one hundred and 546 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: thirty days to go debate catastrophe, Which brings me back 547 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: to let's go back to nine months ago. Nine months ago, 548 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: September the eighteenth, You and I had this conversation. 549 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, there were a lot in the 550 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: media and there were a lot. 551 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: Of other people in Washington that said you and I 552 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: were crazy for having this conversation. 553 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: So let's play the clip. 554 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 18: So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most 555 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 18: likely and most dangerous. In August of twenty twenty four, 556 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 18: the Democrat Kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama, and. 557 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 14: I want you to pause and reflect on it. 558 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: So I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and 559 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: so is everybody else listening. 560 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: Right now. 561 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 14: I view this as a very serious danger. 562 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm smiling right now because it terrifies me. And I 563 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: also could totally see this happening. 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 18: So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women, 565 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 18: which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats 566 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 18: are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid 567 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 18: the problem if you pick from any of the four. 568 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 18: The other three are pissed because they're all, to some 569 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 18: extent peers, they're rivals, they're all jabbin knives at each other. 570 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 18: Michelle Obama, because she was first Lady, has the ability 571 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 18: to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey, 572 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 18: we're not picking among any of you. You guys can 573 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 18: all fight it out next time. You're all going to 574 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 18: be on the same level. We're coming. This is the 575 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 18: Obamas saving the day, and I think in terms of 576 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 18: a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that. 577 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 18: I also think Michelle is not all that eager to 578 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 18: run for president, but to parachute in in August of 579 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 18: twenty four, a couple of months before the presidency, and 580 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 18: suddenly wake up and be president. 581 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: Not a bad gig. 582 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 14: It's not a bad gig at all. Now, would she 583 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 14: do it? I don't know. 584 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 18: I've met Miche, but I don't know her personally in 585 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 18: any meaningful way. I don't know if she would do it. 586 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 18: I do think Barack Obama is already running the Biden administration. 587 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 18: I think he is already the puppet master behind this 588 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 18: Biden White House. I don't think Joe Biden is the 589 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 18: decision maker. And so when I see the media turning 590 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 18: on Joe Biden right now, I think the odds of 591 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 18: Michelle Obama parachuting in in August of twenty twenty four 592 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 18: have risen dramatically, and that ought to scare the hell 593 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 18: out anyone who who is unhappy about the direction this 594 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 18: country is going and doesn't want us to go even 595 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 18: crazier in an even worse direct. 596 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: September eighteenth, center of twenty twenty three, we had this discussion, 597 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: and even right now on MSN dot com, the headline 598 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: is we beat Medicare Biden. Freese's mid answer before being 599 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: bailed out by moderator and then they go on to 600 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: talk about that was a total disaster by the sitting 601 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: president and Democrats are running to replace Joe Biden, so 602 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: they're not even having the conversation behind closed doors. They're 603 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: having it out on national TV right now and in 604 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: the news. 605 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 18: Well, and Ben, what you've just played is I think 606 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 18: as good a promo for this podcast as you possibly 607 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 18: could have. 608 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 14: What we are facing right now. 609 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 18: We predicted on this podcast nine months ago in September 610 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 18: of twenty twenty three. We were among the very first 611 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 18: voices to do that. At the time, it made a 612 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 18: bunch of headlines. And you're right, people thought we were 613 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 18: batcrap crazy. Let's be clear, they thought I was bat 614 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 18: crap crazy. I shouldn't say we had stick you into that. 615 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 18: You were there while I was making that prediction, and 616 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 18: they were like, cruise has lost as mind. And by 617 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 18: the way, in terms of predictions, we also at the 618 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 18: outset of COVID laid out all of the evidence that 619 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 18: COVID originated in the Chinese lab in Wuhan. When CNN 620 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 18: and ABC, CBSNBC were suppressing that news, when Facebook and 621 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 18: Twitter were suppressing that news, we were laying out thevidence. 622 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 18: Then and this morning before the debate, our analysis of 623 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 18: the debate, I predicted, unequivocally, Donald Trump is going to 624 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 18: kick Joe Biden's ass. That was my prediction. That is 625 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 18: exactly what happened. It was the title of the show. 626 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 18: And there were not a lot of people predicting that, 627 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 18: But I number one thought Biden would do terribly. But 628 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 18: number two, if Trump could remain controlled, and he did that, 629 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 18: he did that in an excellent way. I'm going to 630 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 18: call President Trump tomorrow and tell him it's the best 631 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 18: debate he's ever done, and I've been there for a 632 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 18: lot of them. He was measured, he was controlled, he 633 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 18: was fact based, he laid out the case. Even his 634 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 18: response on medicare, let's take the one we just played. 635 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 18: It would be easy to be starky and say, okay, 636 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 18: this guy is like that answer is incoherent. What Trump 637 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 18: did was even better. There said, I mean, look, he 638 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 18: said he actually did beat medicare, which was obviously a 639 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 18: weird brain short circuit. And he said the reason he 640 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 18: beat medicare is because he's let millions and millions of 641 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 18: legal immigrants into this country. He's putting them all in Medicare, 642 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 18: which is going to bankrupt Medicare. And that was a 643 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 18: major message that Trump is hitting, is that the invasion 644 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 18: on our southern border is also bankrupting Medicare and social Security. 645 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 18: I think that was a smart decision to lean in 646 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 18: on that. Joe Biden had no answer. He had no 647 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 18: response all night long. As Trump laid out the case 648 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 18: you caused the inflation, Joe Biden had no response to that. 649 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 18: As Trump laid out the people who are being murdered 650 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 18: all across this country from criminals and insane asylums. When 651 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 18: Trump would say, look, Venezuela is emptying their jails and 652 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 18: sending US murderers and rapists and child molesters and lunatics, 653 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 18: you saw Joe Biden just looking confused. He had no response, 654 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 18: He didn't dispute it. He had nothing to say in response. 655 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 18: On foreign policy, and we talked about this again in 656 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 18: this morning's podcast, Joe Biden just said, well, if Trump's 657 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 18: president Putin will invade all of Ukraine and all of Europe, 658 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 18: and Trump is like, what utter crap? When I was president, 659 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 18: Russia didn't invade one square inch of territory anywhere on 660 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 18: planet Earth. And by the way he did under Barack 661 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 18: Obama and he did under Joe Biden. You are so 662 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 18: weak that that's why Putin invaded and it. Trump did 663 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 18: an excellent job of prosecuting the case, and Biden was 664 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 18: utterly incapable of responding. And I think you are seeing 665 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 18: seeing Democrats freaking out. 666 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: Now. 667 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 18: I believe there are two things. Well, let me say 668 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 18: to a couple of things. Number one, let me tell 669 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 18: you why I believe it'll be Michelle Obama because you're 670 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 18: going to see today and tomorrow all sorts of discussion. 671 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 18: You're gonna hear Gavin Newsome, You're gonna hear all sorts 672 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 18: of other names. 673 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this one. I think, if they 674 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: do it, what's the pitch? 675 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: Because it's gonna start with Barack Obama, who was just 676 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: leading Joe Biden off stage, remember, and everybody saw it 677 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: like he was an elderly old man at old folks home. 678 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm just 679 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: being honest about it. And clearly he witnessed how bad 680 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: it was. Then does is he the guy that has 681 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: to look at Michelle Night going I'd do it, but 682 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: I can I've already been president for eight years. 683 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: It has to be you, honey. 684 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 18: Well, let me break it to two pieces. Let me 685 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 18: tell you why it has to be Michelle. It has 686 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 18: to be Michelle because of Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is 687 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 18: the VP. If you push Joe Biden aside, Kamala's. 688 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 14: Next in line. 689 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 18: The people who say we want Gavin Newsom. You know 690 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 18: what if the Democrat Party pushes an African American woman 691 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 18: aside and replaces her with a white guy, their party implodes. 692 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 18: They cannot do it. They are bean counters and they 693 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 18: are faced. It's actually what forced Joe Biden to pick 694 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 18: Kamala in the first place. He backed himself into it. 695 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 18: He doesn't like Kamala. And the problem Democrats are having 696 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 18: that now is they're looking at Joe Biden. They're saying, 697 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 18: oh my goodness, this guy cannot be our nominee. And 698 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 18: they look at Kamala and they recognize she's a terrible nominee. 699 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 18: And if she's the nominee, they know they'll lose. And 700 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 18: so their problem is the only person on planet Earth 701 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 18: who can push Kamala Harris aside is Michelle Obama, another 702 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 18: African American woman who stands on a different footing as 703 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 18: a former first Lady. Now, what are the impediments that 704 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 18: stop it? The impediments are twofold number one, Michelle says no, 705 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 18: number two. Joe Biden says no. On the Michelle says no. 706 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 18: I think you're gonna have Barrock coming to her. I 707 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 18: think you're gonna have a lot of Democrat kingmakers coming 708 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 18: to her. And the pitch is gonna be Michelle, you 709 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 18: need to save America. Michelle, We need you, Michelle. If 710 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 18: you do not step forward, Donald Trump is going to 711 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 18: be president. Michelle, you are the only person on planet 712 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 18: Earth that can save the world from a Donald Trump presidency. 713 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 14: And listen. 714 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 18: People perceive Michelle Obama as somewhat nonpartisan because she was 715 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 18: a first late in first Ladies kind of stay out 716 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 18: of politics. I think she is more radical than Barack is. 717 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 18: I think she is an ideologue. I think she is 718 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 18: a leftist. You remember when when Barack Obama was running 719 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 18: and she talked about his getting elected was the first 720 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 18: most time in her life she was proud of her country. 721 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 18: I think she embraces hardcore leftism, but a lot of 722 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 18: people don't know that. And so the pitch to her 723 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 18: is going to be Save America. And then the pitch 724 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 18: to Joe Biden. She's got to say yes number one. 725 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 18: And then too, Joe Biden has got to agree to 726 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 18: step aside. And I think you're going to see in 727 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 18: the coming days. You know, you played my prediction from 728 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 18: September of twenty twenty three. The only thing I might 729 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 18: have gotten wrong is I said that this would happen 730 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 18: in August of twenty twenty four. It may be July 731 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 18: of twenty twenty four. I may have been a month 732 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 18: off in the timing. Because this debate I think changed 733 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 18: the fundamental terrain. 734 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: Let's also talk about there was two moments that I 735 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: think really speak to the demise of the cognitive clin 736 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. And it was subtle but significant, and 737 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to it. There was 738 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: one moment when he was asked about social Security and 739 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: he gave a very very short answer and then the 740 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 2: moderators looked at him like what you doing? You still 741 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: have I think they said eighty four seconds left or 742 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 2: something like that. There was another time he was talking 743 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: about African American voters, African American community, and African American issues. 744 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: And they're like, sir, you still have like another minute 745 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: and xmber of seconds, sixty four seconds left. 746 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: He couldn't even. 747 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 18: By the way, he spent eight days at Camp David 748 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 18: preparing and he could not fill the two minutes with 749 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 18: it a the. 750 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: Two minutes on two vitally important issues like social Security. 751 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: Any politician should be able to fill for two minutes. 752 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: In fact, you should be able to fill. 753 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 18: These were not subtle, These were not gotcha's, These were 754 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 18: obvious questions. He had nothing to say. He was scared. 755 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 18: He was a deer in the headlights. 756 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: So you said, deer in headlights. Let's go to the 757 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 2: next conversation that's being had right now. And I'm sure 758 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: it's being had at the White House, at the EOB, 759 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: at the campaign headquarters. Who goes to the president first 760 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: and says step down? And then you're also dealing with 761 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: every guy that's ever very stubborn though like he can 762 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: just can't he just look at him say I'm not 763 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 2: gonna do it. 764 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 18: He is absolutely stubborn. I think it is BARACKO Bob. 765 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 18: I think it is Nancy Pelosi. I think it is 766 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 18: Chuck Schumer. I think it is every leader in the 767 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 18: Democrat Party. It's not Kamala Harris Kamo is not allowed 768 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 18: in the room, but I think it is. And they 769 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 18: go to him and they're pitch to him. They say, Joe, 770 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 18: you were an historic president, you saved America from Donald Trump. 771 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 18: You wanted to be the next FDR. I think they 772 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 18: will they will appeal to his vanity and say you 773 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 18: are the next to FDR. You are consequential right now. 774 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 18: If you stay in the race, you risk undoing your 775 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 18: entire legacy and giving that legacy going down in history 776 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 18: as the man who made Donald Trump president. If you 777 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 18: stay in this race, it will be your fault that 778 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 18: Trump is president. I think they'll appeal to his vanity 779 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 18: and look that that is. I think to Joe bideny 780 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 18: really powerful pitch. Look you look at the debate tonight. 781 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 18: He said things. At one point, he said, during Trump's presidency, 782 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 18: we had a thousand trillionaire. By the way, there are 783 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 18: no trillionaires on planet Earth. At another point, he said, 784 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 18: during Donald Trump, we had fifty percent unemployment. 785 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 14: No, that is wildly wrong. 786 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 18: At another part, he said, he created Joe Biden created 787 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 18: hundreds of millions of jobs. Mind you, there three hundred 788 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 18: and thirty million Americans, and apparently he's created hundreds of 789 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 18: millions of jobs, so more more jobs than there are 790 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 18: working Americans. Like it is, every answer was a problem. 791 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 18: At another point, he said, the Border Patrol endorsed me. 792 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 14: Let's be clear. 793 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 18: The Border Patrol Union immediately tweeted out to be clear, 794 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 18: we have never and will never endorse Biden at every stage. 795 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 18: And what's interesting, he was also trying to insult Trump. Yeah, 796 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 18: and Trump didn't take the bait. Yeah, and he was smart. 797 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 18: It was really at actually when Trump poked Biden, Biden 798 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 18: freaked out. He couldn't not take the bait. And so 799 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 18: the contrast, and I'll say something else. You mentioned African 800 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 18: American votes. Trump's number are surging in the black community, 801 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 18: and I think tonight he made a very hard pitch 802 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 18: for black voters, and his most significant pitch. He had 803 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 18: a lot of points about how bad Trump, how bad 804 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 18: Biden has been for the African American community, talked about inflation, 805 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 18: how it's hammering black families. But then he also tied 806 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 18: it to illegal immigration, and he said, look that the 807 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 18: millions and millions of ill immigrants that are coming into 808 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 18: this country, they're taking jobs from black Americans. That is 809 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,439 Speaker 18: a powerful argument. That is an argument. And by the way, 810 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 18: Biden had no response to that. It was silent. It 811 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 18: was on the substance. Trump prosecuted the case and Biden 812 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 18: crashed and burned. And in fact, the Wall Street Journal 813 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 18: just sent out their key takeaway, their story that they 814 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 18: wrote tonight, and it's now ten forty seven pm, and 815 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 18: their headline is Biden crashed in first debate with Trump. 816 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 18: That's not an editorial, that's the news headline in the 817 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 18: Wall Street Journal because it is just a objectively if 818 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 18: you watch the Hennenburg explode, you don't say Zeppelin landed tonight. 819 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: Now, well, let's also talk about those that have been lying. 820 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: The media center has been lying, congressmen have been lying, 821 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: staff members have been lying. They've been going on TV 822 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: telling you that Joe Biden can run circles around me. 823 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: The White House Press Secretary saying over and over again 824 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 2: saying there's no cognitive decline here, saying that he's in 825 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: perfect health. This guy is is a beast. He's you know, 826 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: he's jacked up aviator Joe. Now they're all actually having 827 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: to admit they're wrong, But no one's gonna I think 828 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: call them accountable for that. They're just gonna run out 829 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: there and say, clearly, it's time for him to step aside, 830 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: step aside, step aside, which is also weird because if 831 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: you're not cognitive, you don't have the cognitibility to be 832 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 2: president in the future. Right, and they're saying he can't 833 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: be the president come January again, then when does the 834 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: twenty fifth and does that even come up? Because you're 835 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: admitting that he's basically incapacitated. 836 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 18: Now, Yeah, listen, we have seen reporters and we've seen 837 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 18: Democrats lying about Joe's mental capacity for a long time, 838 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 18: and nobody fair and objective who watched tonight could conclude 839 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 18: anything other than this is a man who is seriously 840 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 18: mentally diminished. 841 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: You know. 842 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 18: It's interesting Andrew Yang, who you remember, ran for president 843 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 18: against Joe in twenty twenty, he tweeted out tonight quote, look, 844 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 18: I debated Joe seven times in twenty twenty. 845 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 14: He's a different guy. 846 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 18: In twenty twenty four, hashtag swap Joe out that that's 847 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 18: from one of the alternative one of the other candidates 848 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 18: who ran against twenty twenty, from a prominent Democrat. Two 849 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 18: of the top trends that were trending tonight right after 850 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 18: the debate were dementia and Michelle Obama. Now that's bad news. 851 00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 18: I's if that's what's what is And all right, I 852 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 18: want to wrap up tonight's pod with this. I'm going 853 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 18: to do something I have rarely, if ever done. I 854 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 18: may never have done this before. I'm going to praise 855 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 18: CNN this morning's debate. You and I both thought Jake 856 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 18: Tapper and Dana Bash would do a terrible job. They 857 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 18: both hate Donald Trump, they both have become hard partisans. 858 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 18: CNN did an excellent job tonight with this debate. Jake 859 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 18: Tapper and Dana Bash. That was the best debate moderation 860 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 18: they have ever done. They ask good questions, they asked 861 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 18: substantive questions. They didn't make the debate about them. One 862 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 18: of the interesting things no one is debating about the 863 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 18: moderators bad debate moderators. When Chris Wallace debated moderated, the 864 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 18: whole debate was about him because he wanted to be 865 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 18: right in the center of the show. When Candy Crowley 866 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 18: from CNN was the moderator between Obama and Mitt Romney, 867 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 18: she made it all about her. Jake and they ask 868 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 18: good questions, they moved subjects along. They would press the candidates, 869 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 18: but not in a jerky way. They just say, I 870 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 18: asked you the following question. You have another sixty seconds 871 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 18: to answer it. When they didn't get their questions answered, 872 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 18: that's a perfectly reasonable thing for a debate moderator to do. 873 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 18: I've been in multiple debates that each of them have moderated. 874 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 18: I think they both were incredibly sensitive to everyone laying 875 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 18: out the facts that they have shown wild bias, and 876 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 18: tonight tonight they didn't, and they did an excellent job, 877 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 18: and I think that was a service to the country. 878 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 2: I have to ask you one other question, because everyone's 879 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 2: asking it in their head right now, what is the 880 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: hold on a second? 881 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 10: Ben? 882 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 18: You didn't respond to that, and since you're a former 883 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 18: employee of CNN, I'm not gonna let you bet. Ben, 884 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 18: you have sixty two seconds. The question is do you 885 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 18: think Jake and Danna did a good job. 886 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 2: I think they did a decent job. And here's why 887 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get them as much cur as you did. 888 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: You ready for this, all right, but I'm gonna make 889 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: you answer it. 890 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 14: I'm not gonna let you wiggle away. 891 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: For Here's what I'll say. 892 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: I think they were in as much shock as we were, going, 893 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 2: Holy crap, I'm watching an incapacitated president of the United 894 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: States of America. And they were caught so off guard. 895 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: They said, just stick to the script, just stick the script, 896 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: Just stick the script, like it was a default mode. 897 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: Because it was such a glaring disaster with Biden that 898 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: no one, no, none of the moderators were honestly paying 899 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 2: attention to Donald Trump. 900 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 14: Yes, but. 901 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 18: Jake and Dana were more measured than I've ever seen them. 902 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 18: They were deliberately controlled. They knew that half the country 903 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 18: viewed them as wild eyed partisans. Look, we played this 904 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 18: morning Jake analogizing Trump to Adolf Hitler. Yes, and I 905 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 18: still believe that to I think he believes it. But 906 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 18: tonight that didn't come out. And so if we're going 907 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 18: to criticize him when when he's not doing a good job, 908 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 18: I will say, I. 909 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: Think think that they did their job. 910 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 2: Think the biggest political train wreck in American history, and 911 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: they were in it and it was like, I don't 912 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: know what to do. 913 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: How do you triage this? And so they got rid 914 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: of some of that. 915 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: I think if Joe Biden would have showed up jacked 916 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 2: up like you did at the say of the Union. 917 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: I think it would have been a complete different debate 918 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: from the moderator standpoint. But I think they saw what 919 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: everybody else saw, which was we have a present that 920 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: is incapacitated and the whole world is watching it now 921 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,439 Speaker 2: and no one can stop it. There was no one 922 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 2: to step in and lead him off the stage like 923 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 2: Barack Obama did two weeks ago, Which brings me back 924 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 2: to that question that everyone's asking, how quickly will we 925 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 2: find out if the conversations with Joe Biden are going 926 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 2: to work to get him to step aside? 927 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: Number one? Okay? 928 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 2: And number two, how quickly do Democrats have to fall 929 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: back in line and stick with this guy if he 930 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: doesn't decide to step down? And those are the two 931 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 2: most important questions. 932 00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: Maybe the entire. 933 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 18: Night, three weeks, twenty one days, this happens or doesn't happen. 934 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 14: In three weeks. 935 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 18: I think you're gonna have massive chaos following this debate. 936 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 18: You're gonna have massive panic. People are gonna go to 937 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 18: Michelle Obama, people are going to go to Joe Biden. 938 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 18: I don't think given the train wreck that happened tonight. 939 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 18: I don't think they'll wait until after the Democrat Convention. 940 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 18: I think they feel a panic right now. I think 941 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 18: they're gonna want Michelle Obama to be the keynote speaker 942 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 18: at the Democrat Convention, not Joe Biden. So I think 943 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 18: we have twenty one days for this to play out. 944 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 18: And look over the course of the last year, I've 945 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 18: handicapped this. I initially laid it out as a possibility, 946 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 18: then shifted as the Democrats and the media we're starting 947 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 18: to get nervous about Joe Biden. I shifted to about 948 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 18: fifty percent. As we sit here today, I put the 949 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 18: odds at north of eighty percent that Michelle Obama is 950 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 18: the Democrat nominee on the ballot in November of this year. 951 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 2: Make sure you share this podcast with your family and 952 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 2: your friends, and I'll see you back here tomorrow morning.