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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're just hoping Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: can win another playoff game under Mike Tomlin before we

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Speaker 1: all die. I am Greg Rosenthal. I'm in the garage

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Speaker 1: today and I'm talking to my friend who's across town.

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Speaker 1: And who better to talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers with

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Speaker 1: and their potential quarterback pickup than Dave Dan Ask my

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Speaker 1: friend you know him? You love him? From the Sheech Show.

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Speaker 1: It's on YouTube, on podcasts, also making some dynamite YouTube

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Speaker 1: videos with the Levatard Show. What's up? Sheck?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's up? Is the waiting game? You know our two,

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin, Omar Kahn, everybody else apparently on the banks

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Speaker 2: of the three Rivers, or some at least willing to

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Speaker 2: debase themselves to see if a forty two year old

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Speaker 2: weirdo decides he maybe doesn't want to move to one

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Speaker 2: of the two twin cities, rather that the head coach

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Speaker 2: in one of those two twin cities doesn't want the

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Speaker 2: forty two year old man joining the thirty teams in

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Speaker 2: the QB League who have rendered the opinion that this

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Speaker 2: particular QB isn't of interest to them. You understand everybody

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Speaker 2: wants good qbs. In the QB League, thirty teams or

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Speaker 2: at least twenty nine have officially issued their lack of

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Speaker 2: interest in this guy. Deja vu. One year ago, last March,

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Speaker 2: there were two teams and only two teams who looked

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Speaker 2: at thirty six year old, washed up weirdo Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: and had that guy could be our starting quarterback this year.

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Speaker 2: Those two teams were the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. We saw how that turned out. Hey, did

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Speaker 2: you enjoy that rerun sequel? Now let's chase an even older,

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Speaker 2: washed up weirdo who is someone else's legend, someone else's icon.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get him to come play

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Speaker 2: mercenary for the esteem brand that is the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: or are we now the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I can't

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Speaker 2: really tell the difference.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I'm wow check coming in hot. You know,

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Speaker 1: usually you kind of just dip your toe in into

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Speaker 1: the water, and we're we're just right in. And yes,

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Speaker 1: this is a one issue show. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a one issue election or candidate. And the issue is

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Speaker 1: why the Steelers should not sign Aaron Rodgers. And as

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Speaker 1: we're getting closer, we're planning to maybe do this put

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Speaker 1: it out next week. We better put this thing out

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Speaker 1: before it actually happens, because I know we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of pull inside the Steelers building. You certainly do, sheck.

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Speaker 1: And so I actually made a list of just the

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Speaker 1: reasons why the Steelers should not sign Aaron Rodgers. And

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Speaker 1: hopefully they're listening, and some of them are, and you

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Speaker 1: just just got to some of them. But man, calling

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Speaker 1: them a weirdo right off the top, that's not nice.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, Listen, the guy who try it's not nice.

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Speaker 2: Also not nice is trying to wreck the franchise for

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Speaker 2: whom you toiled for fifteen some years on your way

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Speaker 2: out the door, failed in that endeavor, then went to

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Speaker 2: the Jets and succeeded. Yeah, of course we want him

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Why wouldn't you want Aaron Rodgers forty two

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Speaker 2: years old? I mean, the guy who points fingers at

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Speaker 2: everybody but the man in the mirror. This is, of course,

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Speaker 2: the guy who, in his last twenty five games has

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Speaker 2: turned the ball over thirty four times, but hasn't been

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Speaker 2: to a Super Bowl since the Steelers were in a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Certainly is the solution to what ails this

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Speaker 2: franchise right now?

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Speaker 1: Right well, they're desperate, and I'm hinting at that with

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Speaker 1: how I open the show. And I think this record

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Speaker 1: is a little underrated the amount of attention that the

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Speaker 1: Tomlin over five hundred record gets or five hundred or better,

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Speaker 1: which is which is impressive.

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Speaker 2: It really is, absolutely and I resent when people try

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Speaker 2: to marginalize It's all the significance in the free agency

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Speaker 2: era of always having a winning record, even when Duck

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Speaker 1: Giving your team and your fans something to look forward

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Speaker 1: to in terms of meaningful games all season long, like

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Speaker 1: that is a great starting point of what you should

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Speaker 1: be trying to accomplish. And they do that. But the

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Speaker 1: oh to six record in his last six playoff games,

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of stretching it here because the last

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game they were in I was at it

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Speaker 1: the last game I was at Jellette Stadium four too.

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Speaker 1: It was thirty six to nine at one point I believe.

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers tacked on a late there were

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Speaker 1: if you want to call it the curse of Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: or what. But they've been in I believe five playoffs

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Speaker 2: I just like to get in the way back machine.

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Speaker 2: I do remember the two things I remember primarily from

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen title game. Well, the third one is

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Speaker 2: that Roethlisberger took his customary deep shot on the second

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Speaker 2: play of the game. That's the way he always rolled

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Speaker 2: in big spots and missed the Sammy Coats he couldn't wrangle.

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Speaker 2: He dropped the dime to Sammy Coats. It was downhill

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Speaker 2: from there, Chris Hogan running all by himself, like no

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Speaker 2: decided not to cover him that day, and so he thrived.

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Speaker 2: And then three that was the game where we got

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Speaker 2: in the freezing Tempts in KC the week before. I

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Speaker 2: think he had forty touches in that grinded out game,

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Speaker 2: and he was raw. He had a bad growing. The

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Speaker 2: so he mysteriously he just couldn't play after a couple

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Speaker 2: for the Picksburg. Well, he took the field again for

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Speaker 2: the pick That was the start of the of really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a team that in the Steelers, that always figures

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Speaker 1: out a way to look better early in the season

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Speaker 1: generally than they do late, at least that's lately, and

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Speaker 1: always finds a way to get into the playoffs. But

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Speaker 1: I've occupied a very specific spot lately, which is if

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Speaker 1: you're power ranking the teams entering the playoffs, they're always

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Speaker 1: compete in those games. In the one year where they

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Speaker 1: they did lose, so Aaron Rodgers did not seem like

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Speaker 1: the guy to turn it around. I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: going through I don't know if you got numbers or

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Speaker 1: you going to just bounce off what I'm saying. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the most important one. Go ahead, He's not

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Speaker 1: some stats among qualifiers in completion percentage over expected, which

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Speaker 1: I do remember that I went back and look, he

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Speaker 1: people who are smarter than me that get into mechanics say,

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Speaker 1: can't make up for it because he's not as athletic

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the advanced numbers aren't really good. EPA,

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Speaker 1: it's really bad. He can't throw intermedia. But the main

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Speaker 1: thing that I was taken away was he's got a

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Speaker 1: but he just doesn't hit the target. And it's now

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Speaker 1: three years running. You go back to Green Bay and

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Speaker 1: obviously the lost Jets season in this Jets season that

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Speaker 1: he just hasn't been that good anymore. If you're ranking

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Speaker 1: him among all starting quarterbacks or quarterbacks like, he's probably

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Speaker 1: which is like, he probably is one of the best

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Speaker 1: doesn't shock me. He's going to wind up with the

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Speaker 1: he's not good. I'd put him right around where Russell

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Speaker 1: they're convincing themselves.

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Speaker 2: It's a good idea, right, but does that result in

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Speaker 2: any realistic journey to the Super Bowl. Of course it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You know, in the AFC as it's constituted that Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: part of the issue. Tomlin has imposed some sort of

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Speaker 2: is the people who buy that Aaron Rodgers, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: he's our best bet here, just like Russell Wilson was

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Speaker 2: their best bet here. And it is we can find

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Speaker 2: And that's just not a serious approach to solving the

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Speaker 2: think that you mention what he has been able to do,

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Speaker 2: and it is the paradox of Mike Tomlin, which is,

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Speaker 2: I don't think maybe Andy Reid, maybe Kyle Shanahan, but

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Speaker 2: it's a very short list of possibilities of who could

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson Seahawks. From that moment on, Tomlin assumes this

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Speaker 2: no matter who we're playing, of twelve to eleven, it

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Speaker 2: And then that becomes about something other than the point

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Speaker 2: of pro football. And I listen to his advocates Tomlin's

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Speaker 2: at this point, the people who went pressed on this

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Speaker 2: team leader Cam Hayward, Why is Tomlin so great? Why

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Speaker 2: does everybody want to play for him? And it's these

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Speaker 2: things that sound good on a human level. He looks

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Speaker 2: for you. He gets the best version of you out

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Speaker 2: there between the lines for every game. He respects you

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Speaker 2: as a man, and he approaches you from that. These

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Speaker 2: want somebody who is honest and all of that. But

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Speaker 2: it's pro football. And I'm not trying to sound like

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Speaker 2: a hard oh, but I keep going back to like

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Speaker 2: this is the stuff that you hear in praise of

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Speaker 2: David Shaw at Stanford or Bob Knight at Indiana, Like

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Speaker 2: he teaches you lessons that extend beyond the game. It's

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Speaker 2: about how you live your life and all of that.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, don't you think that's why there's no

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Speaker 1: other explanation. I think that is his secret sauce to

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Speaker 1: getting them to this point. It only takes you so far.

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Speaker 1: You got to have better prayers. Yeah, but otherwise they

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Speaker 1: would be six and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Right that the approach has resulted in. It it's hard

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Speaker 2: to argue against it has resulted in. I've heard Tomlin say, like, people,

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Speaker 2: you think I don't want to win every game thirty

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Speaker 2: to nothing. Yes, coach, I know you would like that,

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Speaker 1: To me. The best case scenario, and this is number

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Speaker 2: I think, of course that is accurate. Quickly you name

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Speaker 1: Got a show tomorrow. We got your buddy mjd on

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Speaker 2: Wow, Maurice is the best. Yeah, so have fun with

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Speaker 2: him and send him my best. But it's funny you

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Speaker 2: imagine he is telling you is Pat McAfee has a

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Speaker 2: of this. Is there a super Bowl run in the offing?

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Speaker 2: If you bring in this forty two year old guy,

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Speaker 2: absolutely not, given the rest of the contenders in this

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Speaker 2: So then really, what is the goal other than providing

435
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Speaker 2: some tepid Mike Tomlin always says, we don't see comfort.

436
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Speaker 2: This is a mild form of comfort that the head

437
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Speaker 2: coach will gain from if he can say, like we

438
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Speaker 2: went ten and seven and we won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: with Aaron Rodgers. What that amounts to in the bigger

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Speaker 2: picture is unclear to me. In fact, it's quite clear

441
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Speaker 2: to me it's meaningless. It would it is a meaningless

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Speaker 2: achievement if they win a playoff game. So why would

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Speaker 2: you do this? Why would you bring in a mercenary

444
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Speaker 2: like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers might And again the bigger

445
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Speaker 2: picture is maybe it would be worth it if in

446
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Speaker 2: football terms purely, if you heard that let's say Tennessee

447
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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis and anyone else who Cleveland needed a quarterback

448
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 2: was looking at this guy. These are professional talent evaluators

449
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: as well, and they all have said no, but you

450
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Speaker 2: know better. Color me skeptical, especially since you didn't know

451
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Speaker 2: two years ago that Mason Rudolph, much mock now as

452
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Speaker 2: the potential starter, was the best option between Mitchell Trubisky,

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett and Rudolph. They didn't know that until they

454
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Speaker 2: just got so desperate they were like, I throw him

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Speaker 2: in there, and then he lit it up. In the

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Speaker 2: short term. I don't think he's taking them to a

457
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl ever, but at least either but at least

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Speaker 2: you don't debase yourself in the process of bringing in

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Speaker 2: a mercenary someone else's legend. Fat uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's my Number five is, Hey, you've kind of

461
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Speaker 1: always wanted to just try out Mason Rudolph, haven't you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, for some reason, there's like some deep

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Speaker 1: down part of Tomlin that you're talking about that wants

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Speaker 1: to prove everyone wrong, and they've always liked Mason Rudoff.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you don't think I could go nine to

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Speaker 1: eight with Mason Rudoff. I absolutely could, so just give

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Speaker 1: it a shot. I agree with you, by the way,

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Speaker 1: on the theory of why it's held up. I think

469
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Speaker 1: they must just feel and Rooney, I think, let the

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Speaker 1: cat out of the bag that for all intents and purposes,

471
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Speaker 1: he is their quarterback. If you look at their over

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Speaker 1: underwind total, it's pretty high, it's eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: Like that seems to think that they think rogers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: not that they know anything, but just that the McAfee

475
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Speaker 1: announcement would be interesting because I don't know how that

476
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Speaker 1: would go. You might get some booze in the crowd.

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Speaker 1: I don't need like I think that's his best shot though,

478
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Speaker 1: right think, yeah, it would be a true I don't

479
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Speaker 1: have to have a public appearance. You just do a

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Speaker 1: press conference, you just do a normal signing. But yes,

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Speaker 1: he might win them over that way. They actually, I believe,

482
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Speaker 1: addressed that and kind of made a joke out of it,

483
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Speaker 1: as if we have so much power to unveil it.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see next week. That's partly why I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get this show. And let's let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: And I do want to remind people, Yeah, check out

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Speaker 1: the check show on YouTube. He also gave a very

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Speaker 1: touching thank you to the the NFL billionaires out there.

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Speaker 1: Uh that that's connected to the Levatard Show, which was

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Speaker 1: really excellent. So find that on his socials. Uh, we

491
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Speaker 1: will take a quick break and we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 1: finish out all these reasons. Why Aaron Rodgers, if you're listening,

493
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Speaker 1: just don't do it. You could you could retire back

494
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Speaker 1: on NFL Daily with Pittsburgh's favorite son, Dave Danish. Pittsburgh

495
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Speaker 1: really has more, you know, great people from it than

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Speaker 1: you would expect. I mean, I I say, favorite son

497
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Speaker 1: and and my my friend Anthony Jessel Knicks from there

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Speaker 1: you met you mentioned McAfee, I mean, what what greats

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Speaker 1: Michael Michael Chabon, great author for some reason comes to

500
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Speaker 1: mind because of the book. Mister in Pittsburgh. Ye who

501
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Speaker 1: am I forgetting here?

502
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Speaker 2: The great I mean the the inventor of the Ferris Wheel.

503
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Speaker 2: It's the home of the first big radio station in

504
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Speaker 2: the world. Doctor Thomas Starz will began transplant surgery on

505
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Speaker 2: the banks of the Three Rivers. Gene Kelly h every

506
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Speaker 2: Or an outsize percentage of Hall of Fame quarterbacks Marino

507
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Speaker 2: named There we go, There we Go, Kelly, And it

508
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Speaker 2: goes on and on and as you say, it.

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Speaker 1: Took you a while. It took you a while, but

510
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Speaker 1: there that was who. Yeah, that was who was.

511
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Speaker 2: Dark dark times. By the way, we might be having

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Speaker 2: this conversation, and this sounds hyperbolic, this may be the

513
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Speaker 2: darkest time on the banks of the Three Rivers in

514
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Speaker 2: the last half century in sports terms. Okay, pirates are bad,

515
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Speaker 2: the Penguins are bad. The Steelers are about to on

516
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Speaker 2: purpose sign Aaron Rodgers when no one else outside of

517
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Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants are willing to give a look.

518
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Speaker 2: Pit basketball and football are in bad spots. This may

519
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Speaker 2: be it, This may be it. What's the worst time

520
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Boston sports would be you had some good baseball team

521
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Speaker 2: The Red Sox were good in the mid eighties, and

522
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Speaker 2: the Celtics were obviously great. It would probably.

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Speaker 1: Means, which is my peak adolescens, there was no real

524
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Speaker 1: championship contenders for a while, and you know, those Patriots

525
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: teams were generally horrible. The Celtics were in a weird spot.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you mentioned it though, but it will get

527
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Speaker 1: worse because if you signed Aaron Rodgers. Actually, now this

528
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Speaker 1: whole five hundred above five hundred, every season streak could end.

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Speaker 2: So it's so funny that you think signing Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: will propel them to their first leader.

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Speaker 3: I think so because of my point number three. I

532
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Speaker 3: said he was a weird thing. It's crazy, but I

533
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Speaker 3: don't disagree. I'm just saying, consider what you're saying. Aaron Rodgers,

534
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Speaker 3: the guy who hasn't been to a Super Bowl in

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Speaker 3: fifteen years, but nevertheless is held up by me by

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Speaker 3: the way, October of twenty ten, before you and I

537
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Speaker 3: had ever met each other, I went into public forums,

538
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Speaker 3: I went on television and otherwise. This isn't advance of

539
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl forty five. Then beating the Steelers in that

540
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I said, Aaron Rodgers will go down as the greatest

542
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Speaker 2: quarterback of all time. He is certainly, right now, to

543
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Speaker 2: my eyes, the most talented quarterback I've ever seen. And

544
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Speaker 2: he went on from there, and he has had probably

545
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Speaker 2: two of the five or six best single seasons in

546
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl era four quarterback. Two of those five

547
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: or six belonged to Aaron Rodgers. And yet you are

548
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Speaker 2: saying here and now that he would be the reason,

549
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Speaker 2: the primary reason why they wouldn't meet the standard that

550
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Speaker 2: Tom Win always meets. That's wild.

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Speaker 1: He's turning forty two, I did, and you look at

552
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Speaker 1: so you look at the last three seasons, and they

553
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: had a losing record. With Matt Lafleur, I think we

554
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: recognize as a good coach, they had some offensive weapons,

555
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Rogers was coming off those MVPs. They had a losing season,

556
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Speaker 1: and that was the season that reminds me a lot

557
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson's last season in Seattle where I started

558
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: banging the drum. He's not the guy that he used

559
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Speaker 1: to be, and he was that way in Green Bay.

560
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Speaker 1: So is he still better than some quarterbacks out there? Sure?

561
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Speaker 1: But if DK if Pickens is on this team, like

562
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: his next best receivers are Calvin Austin and Scottie Miller

563
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Speaker 1: and Roman Wilson and Ben Scronick, And then the reason

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Speaker 1: why I think they might have the losing record is

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Speaker 1: an important one point number three. He would just he'll

566
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Speaker 1: make you miserable that it won't be fun. Life is

567
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: meant to be fun, and the entire Jets experience for

568
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Speaker 1: everyone in that building and all their fans was not

569
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Speaker 1: fun the last year in Green Bay, maybe the last

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Speaker 1: few years, even when he was winning MVP, but especially

571
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Speaker 1: the last year. It wasn't fun, and life is short.

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Speaker 1: And if you give me Mason Rudolph and Jackson dart

573
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Speaker 1: Or or whoever you want to say, Will Howard or Tyler.

574
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Speaker 1: So you just want to give some third round pick

575
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Speaker 1: a shot. I don't really get. I'm not really up

576
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Speaker 1: on forcing it too early. But you want to go

577
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Speaker 1: Rudolph and that might be fun. But I don't think

578
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to be fun.

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Speaker 2: I think I'll go more extreme than I think most

580
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Speaker 2: people will. People. The starting position for a lot of

581
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Speaker 2: people with the Steelers is they're so far away from

582
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Speaker 2: being contenders and everything else. And I refer you to

583
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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders at this time a year ago. They

584
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: were a punchline and they got their quarterback in Voila.

585
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Speaker 2: They're in the title game. You know, then you get

586
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Speaker 2: into well, you can't just take a quarterback and expect

587
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Speaker 2: that result. But of course, who regarded Jade and Daniels

588
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Speaker 2: as that level of transformative a year ago in the

589
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Speaker 2: Drake May and Caleb Williams discussion. Now cam Ward doesn't

590
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Speaker 2: rise to that level. Ask Daniel Jeremiah like I did,

591
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Speaker 2: where is cam Ward in comparison to the twenty four class.

592
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: He said he probably slots alongside JJ McCarthy and Michael Pennix,

593
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Speaker 2: which sounds like he's to a degree denigrating cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: But you would take either one of those options in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh right now obviously, and I don't think they're going

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Speaker 2: to do it realistically. But if we are, if we

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Speaker 2: have decided that this, if Mike Tomlin has decided to

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Speaker 2: pursue an avenue that, if, for lack of a better

599
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Speaker 2: way of saying, it feels unstealery and in a bat

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Speaker 2: then why abide by stuff like well, our franchise guys

601
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: only wear black and gold, then trade TJ. Watt? Then

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Speaker 2: I mean for real, and I'm not just saying that

603
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: in a cavalier like for you know, all sacred cows

604
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: are out now, but legitimately and practically you're nowhere without

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. As the twenty twenty three comedies and then

606
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four where commies just proved how much

607
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: that one cat walking through the door when he is

608
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Speaker 2: the guy, what a difference that can make. You should

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Speaker 2: be swinging, And this is the Greg Rosenthal approach to

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Speaker 2: finding your quarterback. You gotta keep taking the swings. You

611
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: know who else lives that way, Sean McVay and Less Snead.

612
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Speaker 2: They did it that way. They drafted Jared Goff, they

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Speaker 2: paid Jared Goff. That was a mistake, so they traded

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff and got another franchise, QB. They won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. The problem was they had to give away

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Speaker 2: all those draft picks. Well, they've screwed themselves. They made

617
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: a deal with the devil to get that one Lombardi

618
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Speaker 2: for relevance in pro football in tough football town Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: They want to draw fans, but this look at that.

620
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Speaker 2: They got the Lombardi, but now they're going to be

621
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Speaker 2: lost at See for a decade. No, they had a

622
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: down year and now they're right back into contention. You

623
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Speaker 2: are limited only by your lack of willingness to take

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Speaker 2: some swings. Do what it takes to go at cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, the comp I have for cam

626
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Speaker 2: Ward that I took to your pal Daniel Jeremiah when

627
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: he was on check Show, was tell me what you

628
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: think of this he is He's gonna go to Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: You assume he is the exact physical dimensions of Steve

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Speaker 2: McNair and Jake Locker two other first round draft picks

631
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Speaker 2: of the Tennessee Titans. I mean they are like within

632
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Speaker 2: a couple of pounds, the three of them at the

633
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: when they were drafted. The measurables are like within three

634
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: pounds of each other, and they're the same height, and

635
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: they're the same husky build, and they both got They

636
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: all three had those big whips, and they all three

637
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: could run. And it shows you how difficult it is

638
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: to evaluate these guys because Steve McNair has a borderline

639
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame career and Jake Locker watches out from injury,

640
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Speaker 2: which is cam Ward. I don't know. It takes me

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00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: back to the Greg Rosenthal approach of you gotta just

642
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: keep taking swings taking him, and I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I think if it's funny you mentioned the Rams, because

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Speaker 1: I actually think the Rams might be looking at the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if they love Jackson dart or

646
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: shoulder if he falls, but I feel like those are

647
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: two of the most likely teams to take a quarterback

648
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: or even to move up for a quarterback in that

649
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: middle to later portions of the round, because I think

650
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: the Rams c they just went through it with Stafford.

651
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: He is very much year to year, and I think

652
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: they do want to start planning because they know they

653
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: want to keep taking swings. So I wouldn't be surprised

654
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: if the Steelers took dart Or Sanders, if if he

655
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: somehow got past the Saints. I don't think that's gonna happen.

656
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to go that long in

657
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: the draft, or Jackson dart Or who knows. Maybe maybe

658
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: someone will fall in love with Milroe, maybe the Steelers will,

659
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: But either way, Rogers doesn't fit with all that. And

660
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: so that's that's my number four, which is he will

661
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: get in the way of a rookie, and it feels

662
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: like they they should just give a shot to a rookie.

663
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: And it doesn't I know, like you wasted time on

664
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, but just you get a year with this rookie,

665
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: and if you don't a lot of them, like, just

666
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: take another one next year too, in the first or

667
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: second round. Because of Tomlin, you're probably never going to

668
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: be picking that high in the first place.

669
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: I think you're right. And I think when I talk

670
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 2: about limited by your own imagination or whatever your own will,

671
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: I think that the Kenny Pickett experience maybe does get

672
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: in their way of doing that. Like, let's take a shot.

673
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's a thing. But you know, I

674
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: want to go fifteen minutes back to your point about

675
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: just quickly about Aaron Rodgers being a fit with Arthur

676
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: Smith the joke guy was going to make. But legitimately,

677
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: does Mike Tomlin say like, we're the Steelers and we're

678
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: not going to completely debase ourselves. We're not bringing in

679
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Allen Lazard, and we're definitely not bringing in Nathan You'll

680
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: hack it to be your caddy or to supplant Arthur

681
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: Smith on any level. I legitimately wonder if that kind

682
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: of stuff is like if if Aaron Rodgers has finally

683
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: come to Jesus at least enough to say like, okay,

684
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: I can't just dictate what's going to happen. And as

685
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: far as that goes, Hey, when Tomlin or whoever says like,

686
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: we want to look at the rookie here, how easily

687
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: does Rogers, uh, you know, sit, take a seat and

688
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: assume the backup job. But to your point of.

689
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: Effort the second part, ever, I think maybe he sees

690
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation in a way because like

691
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: he has to be a little hummy.

692
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I think that's in the fact that he says they

693
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: didn't they yanked Justin Fields at four and two to

694
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: ride with the vet. Obviously Mike Tomlin is not inclined

695
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: to do that to me for a rookie if you're

696
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and you're sort of thinking through all that.

697
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: But the other thing quickly is I agree, I am

698
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: glass half full on the trajectory of the offensive line

699
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: as a as a collective, it has been bad, and

700
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: they have really with Andy Widel, done their best to

701
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: address it over the last couple of drafts and have

702
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: accept at least now. I am no o line expert,

703
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: but Broderick Jones with I think he was what was

704
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: he the fourteenth pick? Fifteenth pick? Wherever he was has

705
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 2: been a bust based on performance to this point. They've

706
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: moved him around. He's going to be on the left

707
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: side if major if but if he does in year

708
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: three start to approach that that offensive line is going

709
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: to be a position of strength. And who's ever behind it,

710
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: whether it's Mason Rudolpher, Aaron Rodgers or a rookie, I

711
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: think we agree the number one factor in determining a

712
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks performance, more than the coach, more than the receivers,

713
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: more than the if it's a dome or if it's

714
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: rainy or anything else, is the quality of the offensive line.

715
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: If you keep any of the thirty five or forty

716
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks on the planet clean, if you give them

717
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: an extra couple of beats, they're probably going to be effective.

718
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: So I think somebody stepping in there has a chance

719
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: where Aaron Rodgers, though specifically, is he's, like you say,

720
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: not a great intermedia throw. Get the ball out of

721
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: his hands quick, okay. But if if it's all about

722
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: the Arthur Smith offense, run the ball, run the ball,

723
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: run the ball with a couple of tight ends and

724
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: then hit those deep shots. That was the whole simplest

725
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, a rudimentary Steelers offense a year ago with

726
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. If it's well Aaron Rodgers hitting those deep

727
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: shots to those big wide receivers to DK and Pickings

728
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: in the some speed out there and everything else, like

729
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: Broderick Jones better be good. I mean, he better hold up.

730
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: Because Aaron Rodgers is a mortal human being. I think

731
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: he sometimes maybe forgets that but he is, in fact

732
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: a mortal human being. And I've talked to a lot

733
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks over the years, and I ask him this

734
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: question because when Blaine Gabbert came into the league, the

735
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: knock on him was, boy, he gets happy feet. He

736
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: doesn't like guys getting around him. And you know, is

737
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: that a fixable thing. Some scouts, some guys would say, like,

738
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 2: you can kind of fix that. The degree, in fact, though,

739
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: the reality is that gets worse is your career goes

740
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: on because you understand your own mortality better. I think

741
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: we all can relate to that. If you think about it.

742
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: You thought you could get away with a lot more

743
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: when you were twenty one versus when you were thirty six,

744
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: you understood it a little bit more. Aaron Rodgers doesn't

745
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: want to be taken smack, getting catching smacks from three

746
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: hundred pound guys running faster than he is. Forty two

747
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: year old Rogers understands that way better than twenty four

748
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: year old Rogers did. Yeah, primarily because he wasn't getting

749
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: he could run away from them. He can't anymore. Tom

750
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: Brady never had the gear to evade pressure with athleticism.

751
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: It was always with his brain, so when he got old,

752
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: he didn't lose anything. He was only smarter than he

753
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: was at twenty five. Aaron Rodgers is a diminished physical specimen,

754
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: so he but because he's a narcissist, doesn't fully accept

755
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: that he's not what he used to be. So that's

756
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: why he is trying to make throats he's no longer

757
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: capable of making and those passes are getting intercepted in

758
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: a way that they weren't a half a decade ago.

759
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even Brady, I mean, and this happened to

760
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: Manning too. It got next level of just like how quickly,

761
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: like if he didn't like it, you would just get

762
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. He refused to take a hit,

763
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: which that did change, But you make the right point,

764
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: which is overall mentally, he won it so quickly that

765
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: he could make that work. Even the last year in

766
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Tampa where it was a little exaggerated like, he still

767
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: made it work. Whereas Rogers, when you watch that tape

768
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: and he's on on the edge, it bums you out

769
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: a little bit because he really does have a great arm,

770
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: and when he does hit his throws it looks sweet.

771
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: He still looks like Aaron Rodgers, So I could see

772
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: why you could kind of convince yourself that it could be.

773
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: But when he is running away from pressure, he just

774
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: looks old. And if you were trying to make the

775
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: optimistic case, you would say, well, he's another year removed

776
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: from the Achilles taire, which is such a massive injury.

777
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: And I think if you're making a case for Kirk

778
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: Cousins this year, that's one you could make. Kirk Cousins

779
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: is four or five years older. Was never that fast

780
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: to begin with. But when Rogers is out there and look,

781
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: he's such a supreme athlete, even at this stage, obviously

782
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: compared to the regular humans, but he's being surrounded by

783
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: these NFL players, he's just it's like these twinkle toes

784
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and he just looks so old that it kind of

785
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: bums you out, because this was a guy who you

786
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: said it, you thought he'd be the greatest of all time.

787
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: And I do think, if I'm just grading what's the

788
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: highest level of quarterback play I've ever seen, I think

789
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: there's still a pretty strong argument that Aaron Rodgers at

790
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: his absolute zenith when it was just cooking in those stretches.

791
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes it'd only be for like eight weeks at a time,

792
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: he might be my pick of guys I've seen, and

793
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of a bummer that it's

794
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: just it's not happening.

795
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, because I like to make a list,

796
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: as you know, I think I go.

797
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: To homes and then Rogers window to.

798
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: Window of greatness, like an extended window Rogers like I

799
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: don't know, like twenty ten, fourteen, like Peyton.

800
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, though, I'm going to stop you there.

801
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: Within that he would have very disappointing for him seasons.

802
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: I remember it very well, where it would it would

803
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of come and go. Sometimes he even have hot

804
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: like eight weeks at a time. But those MVP seasons

805
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: that he had were just were just crazy. He was

806
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: a really interesting guy because I was doing the QB

807
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: rankings every week, a really interesting guy to follow, where

808
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: I really felt like there was something he had inside,

809
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: like a feel, a vibe he could get like on

810
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: a roll that was just absolutely next level. But he

811
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: didn't always have it in the same way that Manning

812
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: and and and Brady, and he was like channeling something

813
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: from above that like he could only channel.

814
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: Some of the times, I thought he was the coolest

815
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: h his comportment compared to the type a personalities finger

816
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: wagon and you know Peyton, like, you know, shouting down

817
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: receivers on the field in front of millions of people

818
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: watching on TV and otherwise, and Brady to a lesser degree,

819
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: and Dan Marino and and all of those those guys

820
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: coming off of that, and even Brett Favre. The big personality.

821
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was more I don't know, introverted, but introspective

822
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: at least, And I agree with you completely. He had

823
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: this sort of quiet, cool, thet swagger about him that

824
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: differentiated him from the group. So it's funny then to

825
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: consider him in that way, because I think he has

826
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: yielded yet another iteration of sort of like the way

827
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback presents, which is now the Jordan love

828
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: maybe because of Aaron Rodgers and watching that up close

829
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: and CJ. Stroud and everybody else have this sort of

830
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: like just one of the guys kind of vibe about them.

831
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: They don't feel like I'm the field general and you

832
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: do as I say, which is what Aaron Rodgers has

833
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: sort of transformed into in a way a little bit

834
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: like I blame everybody else if this doesn't You don't

835
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: know what you got New York Jets and let me

836
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: go kind of attitude, which goes back to the narcissism

837
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: love of his exceptional talent that I think maybe he

838
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: doesn't fully recognize ain't there the way it was? I

839
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: don't think he's full get like all great athletes, Ali,

840
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: every boxer is that guy, like, oh he he is

841
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: the one who doesn't realize it's it's it's evaporating.

842
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he'll listen to this, and yeah, his style

843
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: just that to pre athleticism. When you hear Patrick Mahomes

844
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: talk about like who he kind of looked up to,

845
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: and I've heard Drake May like they didn't want to

846
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: be Tom Brady, they want to be Aaron Rodgers like that.

847
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes is the next evolution of where Rogers was. But

848
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: he's he's not that guy. So yeah, maybe he'll listen

849
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: to this and he'll listen my reasons again, Yet just

850
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: number one was not that good anymore. Weird fit with

851
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith, make you miserable, get in the way

852
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: of a rookie You've always kind of wanted to try Rudolph.

853
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: The best case is not that great. You could end

854
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin's whole streak, and then number seven, the most important one,

855
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: Sek doesn't want it, and if Sek doesn't want it,

856
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: the city of Pittsburgh doesn't want it, and it doesn't

857
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: make sense. Thank you, Seck.

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Speaker 2: I think we don't want this rental. We don't, we

859
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Speaker 2: don't need this. Well, that's a carpetbagger.

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Speaker 1: That's not who we are.

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Speaker 2: Go to Minnesota. They'll trade their dignity for uh for

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Speaker 2: a Lombardi? When did it who who took the vote

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh that we're willing to do that. I am

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Speaker 2: here to say that we are not stay away Yan's.

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Speaker 2: We don't, we don't want Yan's.

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Speaker 1: I love it. This episode is very close cousin to

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Speaker 1: the one that I did with Ali Connelly before last season,

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00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: where it was again a single issue show, and the

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Speaker 1: single issue was what if Kirk Cousins is just the

870
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Speaker 1: bad Kirk Cousins this year and it's a total mess

871
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and look, how will that one age? So I hope

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Speaker 1: that Rogers and Steelers fans aren't stuffing this one in

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Speaker 1: our face all season. With him doing well, I'm now

874
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Speaker 1: put in a bad position you are too, where you

875
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Speaker 1: almost have to root against them. But I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't root against them. It's as I have said

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Speaker 2: about it, and that I think this is a good

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Speaker 2: spot to bring it on home is I like James

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Speaker 2: Bond as a character. I think James Bond is a

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Speaker 2: fascinating character. If Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback, it's

881
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Speaker 2: like Timothy Dalton James Bond movies. You understand, Like I

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Speaker 2: I'll still admire the character that is James Bond. I

883
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Speaker 2: just won't be into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just hope it's not like Clooney Clooney and

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Speaker 1: Batman and Robin, Like there's a potential, there's a potential

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00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: for it to be George Clooney still an all time

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Speaker 1: great and Batman and Robin almost sunk the entire franchise.

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Speaker 1: That's it for our show again, I say, check out

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Speaker 1: check show on YouTube. Check out his videos as part

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Speaker 1: of the Levatard Metal Arc family. I love that marriage.

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Speaker 1: That's a good it's a good combo. I'll be back

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Speaker 1: with Daniel Jaremaya. I mentioned MJD is going to be

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Speaker 1: our show. Forties and free Agents that'll be in the

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Speaker 1: feed next and then yeah, NFL Daily, you'll hear me

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Speaker 1: really start digging deep into the draft. When we're telling

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to stay away, you know football is back.

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Speaker 1: See Next Day