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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Hey Deshaun Watson really

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Speaker 1: is gonna get traded spectacular? And now your host, the

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Speaker 1: man who will struggle to employ even this slightest bit

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Speaker 1: of objectivity in this discussion, the old Zeuser himself, Dad

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Speaker 1: hand Zeus. They haven't a bloody hi you Dylan today

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Speaker 1: the old Zeuser here joined in a virtual room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Yes, it is indeed

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Speaker 1: the Hey, Deshaun Watson really is gonna get traded spectacular

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Speaker 1: and we cannot wait to dig into all of the

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Speaker 1: madness surrounding one of the great talents in football. The

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Speaker 1: report came out this morning ESPN's Adam Schefter that Watson

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Speaker 1: requested a trade from the Texans. Officially, the Watson Watson

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Speaker 1: ESPN Ian Rappaport had some similar reporting h later today.

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Speaker 1: And now here we are boys in a place that

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Speaker 1: we've really been or never been before. We've never tread

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Speaker 1: in this territory. Greg. A quarterback at this level, Jay

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Speaker 1: Cutler is an example of far distant cousin. When he

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Speaker 1: was a hot shot in the league, but he was

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Speaker 1: never truly a superstar. Deshaun Watson is, and it looks

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Speaker 1: like he's on the move. Are you buying now? Is

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Speaker 1: he definitely going? No, I don't want to ruin like

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Speaker 1: the theme of the show, but the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: a contrarian to the bitter end Rosenthal, Well, here's the thing, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I if I had to guess, more likely than not.

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Speaker 1: But number one, you just said that the trade request

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Speaker 1: came weeks ago, and that was before the Texans hired

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Speaker 1: David Culley, which you know we can mention he was

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Speaker 1: the receiver's coach in Baltimore before the Texans decided to

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Speaker 1: keep their offensive coordinator Tim Lewis, who Watson is a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of. I do think the fact that reports

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Speaker 1: one putting out there and they don't really care about

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Speaker 1: all that coaching mumbo jumbo, and they still absolutely whan out.

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Speaker 1: But I'm doing this like piece next week of like

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Speaker 1: what you know, what each team can do to make,

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Speaker 1: you know, next year's super Bowl. And my thing for

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Speaker 1: the Texans is like, don't trade Deshaun Watson. It's still

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Speaker 1: not over. He's still on your roster. You might not

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Speaker 1: exhaust every possible avenue to make it not happen. And

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Speaker 1: maybe they're too dumb to do that. But I'm still

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Speaker 1: I'm still leaving that little door open, little crack. It

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Speaker 1: is fair to question if they're if they're UM, if

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Speaker 1: they have the wherewithal to make the intelligent choices UM

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Speaker 1: at this point from here on out to keep Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: because the one thing that doesn't appear to be UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, pushed by pr or or de Shaun Watson's camp,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just legit that the relationship is broken,

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Speaker 1: and it's broken from the highest order in Houston, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, David Culley, UM, I think in

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Speaker 1: another scenario would be a celebrated higher for the kind

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Speaker 1: you can use patients, you don't have to something. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins want to Shaun Watson, let's just make that

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Speaker 1: You've lost the centerpiece of your organization who's not James J. J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: And you've probably lost J. J. Watt too, So it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty dark time for the new people in place

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Speaker 1: I feel for them. That's Uh, that's a good point. Mark.

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Speaker 1: That was the next point I was gonna make that. Uh. Listen.

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Um, it's an exciting

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Speaker 1: I said, this is uncharted territory. The idea of a

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Speaker 1: This is fun for everyone except for Houston Texans fans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But this is not dancing on the grave of Deshaun

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Speaker 1: that it's probably not gonna end up that way where

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Speaker 1: a very difficult situation in Houston, and Greg, I agree

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Speaker 1: This is my son Jack and Harry's the Floors Lava. Uh.

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Speaker 1: it has a wheel, and I have now repurposed it

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Speaker 1: um in terms of the future of the Flora's Lava.

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Speaker 1: chosen in this game. Buffalo Nay, Miami, Yes, definitely, New England. Yes, yes, Jets, Yes,

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Speaker 1: is already kind of seriously worried about two of being

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Speaker 1: a big time player. It was a very small sample size. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean to me, this is like a big

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Speaker 1: win win situation, right. The big win is if you

429
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Speaker 1: can you've got the ammo. I mean this is obviously

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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this as his agent, but Ophins

431
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Speaker 1: do have the ammunition with draft picks, et cetera, to

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Speaker 1: put together a package that would be interesting to the Texans.

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Speaker 1: I believe, um so on that front, I think they're good.

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Speaker 1: I think the big win is the Texans go for

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Speaker 1: it and you can put together the package. You get

436
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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson, who's one of the in my opinion

437
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Speaker 1: five best quarterbacks in the NFL and twenty five years

438
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Speaker 1: old and locked up through I think in his current contract,

439
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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins have the catch space to to be

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Speaker 1: able to make it work if it doesn't happen. I actually,

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Speaker 1: my honestly biggest worry would be goes to the Jets,

442
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Speaker 1: because then you've got two teams in the ANFC East

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Speaker 1: with like a long term top five quarterback in the

444
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Speaker 1: fold with him and Josh, I feel the same way

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Speaker 1: about your situation exactly. Um if not, you have too.

446
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Speaker 1: I definitely don't think we've seen enough of two. And

447
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Speaker 1: I like that that. I mean, you know, I think

448
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Speaker 1: it was underplayed. The players that he was had around

449
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Speaker 1: him at skill positions at the end of the season

450
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Speaker 1: there when things started going awry were awful. Like he

451
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Speaker 1: had he had guys who are playing quarterback in in

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Speaker 1: the SEC wide receiver in the NFL year later, you know,

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Speaker 1: in starting it's he definitely didn't get his chance to

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Speaker 1: see it. And I think the Dolphins have a really

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Speaker 1: good plan that they were looking to execute, which was

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback last year as part of was one

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Speaker 1: of three first round picks, and then they've got two

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Speaker 1: more first round picks and two second round picks this

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Speaker 1: year to put the pieces around him. You're so excited

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Speaker 1: about this. To me, I don't. I don't like. I

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Speaker 1: don't see this being whichever way, I'd be hugely excited.

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Speaker 1: I love to show you can talk yourself into the tour.

463
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Speaker 1: I can talk myself into the two. So I definitely

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Speaker 1: think they need to give him at least a year

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Speaker 1: with some great pieces around him rather than trying to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball to and I think I think they're

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Speaker 1: gm UM in Houston, you know, tight with saving you

468
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Speaker 1: know to ah tour from Alabama. I think to U

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Speaker 1: has been totally misread. I I have a I have

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Speaker 1: hope um and you know, some optimism that he can

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Speaker 1: be a good in difference makings darting quarterback, that he

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Speaker 1: showed more than people thought and people are being way

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Speaker 1: too quick, and that he does have trade value. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: they have the number three overall pick. I mean they

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Speaker 1: have the number three and the number eighteen overall pick.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not as good as two, but it

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Speaker 1: is right up there. And if you if you if

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Speaker 1: it's to h and three, you kind of like to uh,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Texans plus you have the number three

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Speaker 1: overall pick, that's pretty exciting. And from the Watson point

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Speaker 1: of view, I mean, yeah, you're taking a pay cut

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Speaker 1: if you get traded anywhere with state income tax because

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Speaker 1: Texas doesn't have it. And you're saying, okay, that contract

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Speaker 1: you sign and no money is not important at you know,

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Speaker 1: the number one thing to Watson supposedly but basically getting

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Speaker 1: traded anywhere but Florida and Texas. You're taking a pay cut.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty big this game and exercise a whole

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Speaker 1: lot shorter if we just want to include the state

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Speaker 1: income tax free destinations. Have we mentioned the state income

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Speaker 1: tax situation. We're gonna spend the wheel again, Henry, do

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Speaker 1: you want to stay on for another spend? I know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to jump. It's wonderful to see you,

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Speaker 1: and I I know I would love to, but I'm

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Speaker 1: very busy. I have a day job is vice president

495
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Speaker 1: of international. That was his way to make sure we

496
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Speaker 1: got that in again, to show how successful he's been

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Speaker 1: since he came to America. UM. That's I really appreciate.

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Speaker 1: That's that's part of the contract I have with you, guys. Greg.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. You made a convincing case there as well.

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Speaker 1: And I'm preparing to forgive Greg. He did something almost

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Speaker 1: unforgivable yesterday on another podcast UM with with a friend

502
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Speaker 1: of mine. But I think you're not going to give

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Speaker 1: the Neo Reynolds podcast a little plug. I didn't do

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Speaker 1: anything unforgivable. I recognize that. You know, Henry has a

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Speaker 1: kindred spirit. He likes to you know, throwing the throwing

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Speaker 1: the jabs to people. I was just what did he do?

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Speaker 1: Was offensive? Greg? I thought yesterday after I was taking

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Speaker 1: the dog for walkers, like I'll entertain myself with two

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Speaker 1: of my friends Neio Reynolds Greg Roll on the podcast together.

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Speaker 1: About six minutes in, Greg says, I'm an as like

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Speaker 1: your friend Henry Hodge. What he does that sometimes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he can't just speak about himself, he has to invoke

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Speaker 1: other people. Here's the here's the thing. Henry took that

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Speaker 1: as a compliment. I know, Henry, can you speaking of

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Speaker 1: sky Sports? We might edit this out. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Can you let them know that we noticed that we're

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Speaker 1: not on their press release touting their talent that's going

518
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Speaker 1: to be involved concerning Let them know that we're not angry,

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Speaker 1: We're not looking to force any actions, but just let

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Speaker 1: them know that we have perused the press release that

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Speaker 1: Sky Sports sent out about Super Bowl coverage, and we

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Speaker 1: have noted that we are not mentioned at any point

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Speaker 1: in that release. Landed with a clunk, big, gigantic. You know,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely I'll have the conversation with them. I'm

525
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Speaker 1: already talking to them on Time's behalf for some other reasons.

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Speaker 1: But if they don't fix this stuff, and I'm figuring

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Speaker 1: this stuff out, Mark will take the book from behind

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Speaker 1: him titled Chaos and unleash it on the Let them

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Speaker 1: know that we we saw the Dallas Clark Pub and

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Speaker 1: we saw him getting pumped up, but we have not

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Speaker 1: un You know, you guys need to have a middling

532
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: career as a tight end being boosted. Now we really can't.

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Speaker 1: Now we really can't put this firt in the show.

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Speaker 1: We're keeping it there. No, it's all right, Henry, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for guys. I love seeing you. I hope you're

536
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Speaker 1: all well. Send my love to your your families and

537
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Speaker 1: friends and loved ones. See, all right, let's spin the

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Speaker 1: wheel once more. Here we go. This game is moving

539
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Speaker 1: at a feverish yew. We might not get to look

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Speaker 1: at that. I replaced the Dolphins with the Raiders, and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly the spot it runs. Starting to make me

542
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Speaker 1: worry that there's something wrong with the wheel. The Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders up next. Mark Sessler for you, how about

544
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Speaker 1: that you make the case to de Sean that the

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Speaker 1: Raiders should be his preferred destination in the trade. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would say this to Sean you know. I know

547
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Speaker 1: that we just spoke a few minutes ago and I

548
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: talked with you about Miami, But I think you want

549
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Speaker 1: to talk about a real destination, a destination of a

550
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Speaker 1: you know, it's like I'm versatile, you know, I I

551
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: shape shifter when it comes to these things. But now

552
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: we're living in the world where he just keeps calling

553
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: back twenty different times. Yeah, this makes sense. I mean,

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00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: there's four of us in the room. Who's in the

555
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: room here, so it's like I'm talking about the Raiders here.

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you why the Raiders maybe not

557
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Speaker 1: the team you would have thought up first. This is

558
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Speaker 1: a special time to become an Oakland Raider. And number one,

559
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: the money is going to go through the roof. They've

560
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: got consistency there. Their coach is not going to suddenly

561
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Speaker 1: get bounced out and replaced by some sort of Machiavellian

562
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Speaker 1: plot from the inside. Their coach maybe a little Machiavellian,

563
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Speaker 1: but he's not going anywhere. John Gruden and you, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is a great relationship you want you're talking about

565
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: your issues with relationships with organizations. The Raiders are ready,

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Speaker 1: from what I know, to make this move that they

567
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Speaker 1: look at I know Derek Carr's there, but Derek Carr

568
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Speaker 1: is no more guaranteed money. He is going to be

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Speaker 1: moved stage right. And this is a team right now,

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Speaker 1: You've got Darren Waller. Imagine your career growing with Darren Wallers,

571
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Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs, Jail and Richard, Josh Jacobs, Nelson, Aguilar, Hunter, Renfro.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this offense, which was very exciting a year ago,

573
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Speaker 1: is set to grow and bloom with you at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I love this destination. If you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: one of the most historical teams in the league, it's

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. You could go down as an icon along

577
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Speaker 1: with you know, Art Shell, Marcus Allen, John Madden, Jim Plunkett,

578
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Speaker 1: the whole crew. This is a history making moved for you.

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Speaker 1: And you move away from a team that's only a brown,

580
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Speaker 1: been around since two thousand and two to the ultra

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Speaker 1: elite gold class of NFL franchises, the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it gold class, all right, that's pretty good.

583
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Speaker 1: Cell I like that Sell. I think the Raiders, the

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Speaker 1: Silver and Black, they're in that cowboys category for me,

585
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Speaker 1: where I think there are a few teams that would

586
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Speaker 1: move the needle just on selling the brand and the

587
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Raiders are one of them, and the fact that they're

588
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I think that's an interesting location for them,

589
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: certainly better than trying to pitch him and go into

590
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Speaker 1: Oakland Alameda Coliseum to spend your career the stadium. The

591
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: stadium's cool, the stadium is awesome, the city is obviously

592
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Speaker 1: glitz and glamorous, and the brand is great. And I

593
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Speaker 1: guess it kind of might come down to, is John

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Speaker 1: Root in your cup of tea? Do you feel like

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want to get in bed

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Speaker 1: with for the next ten years, or do you feel

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Speaker 1: like that's a guy you can't trust, Like Ruden is

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Speaker 1: a selling point in a non selling point at the

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Speaker 1: same it really depends where you come from. I think

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Speaker 1: I think it could be. I think it could be

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Speaker 1: a selling point. I think he did the QB Camp

602
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Speaker 1: QB Confidential back in the day with with Watson. I

603
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: think he can scheme up offense. I guess that's what

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Speaker 1: that would be. Part of the cell is look at

605
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Speaker 1: this offensive line, look at what they've done offensively. It's

606
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: pretty quarterback friendly. Um with Derek Carr. Now you might

607
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 1: just have to cut Derek Carr because I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can sell the Texans on going back to another

609
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: car at quarterback with you know, with all do was

610
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Speaker 1: ancient and you know David Carr got screwed over by circumstance.

611
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: He was he was a guy that never really had

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00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: a chance. Okay, here's the thing in the Texans. If

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00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: you trade Deshaun Watson period um, that is gonna be

614
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 1: an unbreakable trust, a trust that you broke with your

615
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: fans that some may never recover from. You come in

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Speaker 1: and you tade you trade Hopkins, Watt and Deshaun Watson

617
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Speaker 1: in the same year. Uh, some people are just gonna

618
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: leave you forever. And if you try to replace them

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Speaker 1: with Derek Carr, a mid range quarterback, that to me

620
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: just feels like any human want to be that quarterback. No,

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Speaker 1: but if you're the number two overall pick, or you're

622
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Speaker 1: too uh or you're I don't know who else it

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Speaker 1: would be probably wouldn't be anyone, but like a supergar

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Speaker 1: level quarterback. No, I think it's gonna have to you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to be a little more

626
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: than that. Then you're It feels like you're shooting for

627
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Speaker 1: the middle. Um, all right, let's let's keep moving. All right,

628
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I've replaced the Raiders with the Rams. That's fun, right, Yeah? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Forts who make the cell? I mean, DeShawn? This is

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Speaker 1: This is David, by the way, David mulghetta. Everyone knows me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what what he sounds like, but you

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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: know I'm David. Actually, you nailed it. That's exactly what David. Um.

633
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Speaker 1: I got two words for you, Deshaun Watson, Kyle Shanahan.

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Go go watch some Kirk Cousins tape when he was

635
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: with Kyle. Go go watch the money that Kirk Cousins

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: made after playing with Kyle she And go watch the

637
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year season Robert Griffin the third had

638
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shean. And go watch Nick Mullins put up

639
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: better stats and his first sixteen starts than you did,

640
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Nick freaking Mullins. This is a team that

641
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: was in the Super Bowl two years ago, has a

642
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: great defense of mindset, has great offensive UH personnel to

643
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: support you with Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk in a

644
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: running game. This this team is ready to win the

645
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in the first season you're there, and and

646
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: to start a long, beautiful relationship. I'm out not even

647
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna listen to you, de Sean. I don't think you

648
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: need two minutes to sell that situation and the idea

649
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: of pairing with Kyle Shanahan for the next decade, well, yeah,

650
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you trust the connection there, the coach quarterback connection and

651
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: and Shanahan's you know, bona fides uh speak for themselves.

652
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: And then uh, it satisfies for the forty the team wise,

653
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: like you're saying you're an instant contender. And really, let's

654
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: face it, if they the forty Niners, landed Deshaun Watson

655
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: in the trade, they would be the overwhelming favorite. I

656
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: would think to go to the Super Bowl next year.

657
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: So the expectations are through the roof for better and worse. Uh,

658
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: for better or worse. Uh. And then it does also

659
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: helps the Texans, Like we talked about what would be

660
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: the ideal situation for the Texans if they have to

661
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: trade Deshaun Watson, get him out of site, out of mind,

662
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: you put him out there in the NFC West. Uh.

663
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: You know it's still listen, this is this is not

664
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: baseball or other sports where a lot of fans are

665
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: regionally minded to Shaun Watson is going to be on

666
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: the radar at all times in Houston no matter where

667
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: he goes. So but it's just the idea of potentially

668
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: facing him in regular seeing games in a playoff game,

669
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: you don't want anything to do with that. So this

670
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: makes so much sense. What's like the biggest obstacle here?

671
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't see a huge, huge obstacle unless the Niners

672
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: are unwilling to part with the immense asking price. If

673
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: that's just not that they don't have a high because

674
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: they don't have a high pick, so that you know

675
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: they have you could do that over years. I mean

676
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: you can anyone could come up with some package outside

677
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: of the Texans if they were in the reverse situation.

678
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: And I say, it's like they are fairly high pick though,

679
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: so I guess, um, what is their pick? Where they

680
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: where are they? I'm looking right now, But it's I

681
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: feel like to get a quarterback, um, you know, of

682
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: their liking, they would probably have to make a move

683
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: and they have that they have the twelfth pick, but

684
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: they also um have a cheap bridge quarterback that Nick

685
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Cassario was involved in drafting, and well, that's what I

686
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: was going to mention. I mean, if you're easter being

687
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: Nick Kissario like Jimmy Garoppolo feels like an extension of this.

688
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: They're building this fortress where it's like the scant few

689
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: people that still believe in what they're doing are the

690
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: only people they hire or entertain, Like, I don't like

691
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: to what would be like you, I'm going to give

692
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: this coach a chance before we bury him. You know,

693
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: John Hier, people are already talking about David Culley as

694
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: a bridge to Josh McCown that they really only want

695
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: him for a couple of years and then hire Josh McCown.

696
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I think that you went and

697
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: got someone that's essentially forced into a yes man role,

698
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: but you Jimmy G would be someone I think that

699
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Cassio and Easterby would say, yeah, we could make that

700
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: um work. He's a fun He's a fun throwing At

701
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: this point in the level, in a trade level that

702
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: we're talking about with Watson, Jimmy G is not the

703
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: centerpiece of the trade. It's the draft, it's the draft

704
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: picks um. But the fact that you can throw him

705
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: in and and have a quarterback for the next year

706
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: if you wanted. Potentially, I could see Cassario one. The

707
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: David Carr case as well, the Derek Carr case. Yeah,

708
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, you're right. You're right, only Derek Carr never

709
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: misses games, and no, I'd rather have Derek Carr. It's

710
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: more that, Um, I could see potentially Cassario loving Jimmy

711
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: G just like I can see the Patriots being totally

712
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: all about getting Jimmy G back this offseason. Yeah, I

713
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: really could. Yeah, I could see that all right. Um,

714
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: So that one makes a lot of sense. It is.

715
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: It is the draft pick. The teams that have that

716
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: essentially lottery pick this year, I feel like do have

717
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: an advantage. But the NFCC NFC thing is is interesting.

718
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: And I just say one little quick thing about the

719
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: immediate draft picks for this year, like do you really

720
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: want to like they're in rebuilding mode, Like having some

721
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: of these first picks spread a little bit down the line, um,

722
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: make more sense to me than like, oh, you're still

723
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna stink three years from now and you're gonna be

724
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: being asked about, like you know, options for your first

725
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: round picks that are on a team that's still half big.

726
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: And we should say like Watson has a no trade clause,

727
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: so it is possible that the Texans get a few

728
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: teams that have worthwhile trade offers and that Watson is

729
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: a parting in choosing this team. I've replaced the forty

730
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: nine spot with the Steelers. That was a bad spin.

731
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: All right, Panthers, alright, let me make this case. All right,

732
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: here we go, Sean, what's up big to me? Baby? Um,

733
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm David Mongolas, your agent. Get'll get David mal Ghetta.

734
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: When David mal Ghetta speaks, going well so far, people

735
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: listen and uh. If I pick up that call and

736
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: I engage with the big man upstairs in Carolina, an

737
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: owner who is completely completely obsessed with making splash moves. Um,

738
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I think David Tepper is gonna want to do something. Uh.

739
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: And now I tell you that this is an organization

740
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: you want to be connected to because they are going

741
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Matt Rooley, so that he's done.

742
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: I know you've been following his college career, what he

743
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: what he did at Baylor, uh, and now what he

744
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: did in his first year in Carolina. Players love playing

745
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: for They just love him. He's one of those guys.

746
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: He's an offensive minded coach. Uh. He's the type of

747
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: guy you're not dealing with Bill O'Brien here. This is

748
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: not a Bill O'Brien situation or a David Culley know

749
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the were about color or Josh McCown creeping around the corner,

750
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, and don't listen to like guys like Greg

751
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Rosenthal out there in the media that just want to

752
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: tell you that David Culley is gonna be just I

753
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: just want to give this guy a chance. Let's not

754
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: take it personal with David Culley. Okay, No, nobody has

755
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: been in a worse position as a head coach entering

756
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the league since Jim Tomsula. Rearranging deck chairs and the

757
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: Titanic is what Coulor is doing. Matt Rule is the

758
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: future there, like he is locked and loaded. Ownership is

759
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: in lockstep with the head coach, and there are weapons there.

760
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: You ever here, Christian McCaffrey, imagine you and McCaffrey sharing

761
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: a backfield together. We've got some wide receiver pieces there,

762
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: but they can get better. This is a great place

763
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: to live, Charlotte. I mean, that's that's a wonderful area

764
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: of the country, and I think you put it all together,

765
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: this one makes sense and you get a fresh break

766
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: from everything and all the all the toxic culture with

767
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the Texans and the af C South and the a

768
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: f C in general, and you just start fresh with

769
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: an organization that's on the right path. The Panthers one.

770
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Just how about the familiarity you know with the region,

771
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, going to college there. There's pictures, tech pictures,

772
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: pictures of Watson in a Panther's jersey with with Cam Newton,

773
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: an old Cam Newton fan. Um, it's sort of the

774
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: perfect I think Miami has a little bit of this too,

775
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: But I think it's the perfect balance of like you

776
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: kind of like where the organization's at. But if I

777
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: was a player, I kind of like that it's a

778
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: little more low key media wise, And just I think

779
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna everyone's gonna be excited about De Shaun Watson

780
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: wherever he goes. Um, but he can be the king,

781
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: the King of the Carolinas. How about the chance to

782
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: work with Joe Brady. Um. I love that you mentioned

783
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: David Tepper. I mean, if you're if we would love

784
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: to know exactly what De Shaun's list are like, this

785
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: is what the next organization must have, not just the

786
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: money thing, but if you talk about an owner who's

787
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: going to engage you and make you part of decision

788
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: making and um treat you with respect, and a coach

789
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dan, I mean it's it's a spicy landing

790
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: spot and I think the Texans would do it in

791
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: a second over an a f C team. Robby and

792
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Drabby Anderson, d J. Moore and Curtis Samuel all had

793
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: over yards this year. Now, I'm not saying they're the three.

794
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: It's the best wide receiver room in the league, but

795
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: it also speaks to what Matt Rule can create if

796
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and Matt Rule can do that with those

797
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: three guys, like look look out for the next five.

798
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna want to win right away. I

799
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to walk into a deep rebuild

800
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: necessarily unless it's real attractive for the reasons and the

801
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Panthers could win right away with him. Yeah, I think

802
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: what you saw with Will Fuller this year definitely something

803
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: you think about two Because I put Fuller in a

804
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: similar categories. Of those Carolina receivers are all very good

805
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: players that pair him with a truly great quarterback, and

806
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: any of those guys can turn in an all pro

807
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: level year, which Fuller was on his way to before that.

808
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: P d B. That's this is the one now that

809
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm clearly rooting for Deshaun Watson to get out

810
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: of the a f C. East. Don't need that, particularly

811
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, and and I do like the Panthers quite

812
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: a bit, and uh, I like this whole thought is

813
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: kind of fun too, But I like this Panthers temper.

814
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: You know, temper wants that he's already put a big

815
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: stamp on this organization since he came in. He's basically

816
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: cleared out everybody and installing his home vision. You would

817
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: think the next move, if he could make a this

818
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: would be like a Kingmaker move to bring in the

819
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: year old, year old franchise. And they said they would

820
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: aggressively go after players like this, the Panthers themselves. So

821
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was not to you know, build

822
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: build off this mythology that's uh centered around this particular owner.

823
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: But he was known as like this massive shark on

824
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: Wall Street, and he gets what he wants and he

825
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: takes big risks, and you know, even rule like he

826
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: would not let him out of his building. And you

827
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: know he's known for I'm a guy. I could just

828
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: picture it listen this, um. But there are different people

829
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: that are interested in picking the teams, and I know

830
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: that why some kind of put the Jets and the

831
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins at his top so that shows his priorities. I mean,

832
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: supposedly the Jets and the Dolphins are atop of his list. Um.

833
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: But if I was someone just picking where he would go, now,

834
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm feeling the Carolina. I'm feeling that as the underdog pick.

835
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: That's some good value there. What a roller coaster just

836
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: hearing Greg, you know, speak this stuff out. I love it. All. Right,

837
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: here we go, let's keep spinning. Finally New York Jets.

838
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: Do I want to make this up? No, I'll do it. No,

839
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I would. I would. Hey, look at the

840
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: last twenty years shown, Look at this uh, look at

841
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: what this ownership David Mulgata and let me start here. Hey,

842
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: look at the last twenty years the show. Look at

843
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: that team. That team needs a hero. You're a hero.

844
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: You know you're a hero. That's why Swiney said way

845
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: back in the day, you're Michael Jordan's New York. Imagine

846
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, New York. Imagine what that'd be like. And

847
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: don't let's and all these people like those Greg Rosenthal's

848
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: out there in the media who say, oh, it's the NFL,

849
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the market is forget about all that. Yeah,

850
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: he does. He respects you enough to know who you are. Uh,

851
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: this is everything, this is this is the dream marketing

852
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: scenario for you. Um. And you have a situation there

853
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: and I know you've already told me privately how much

854
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: you respect Robert Sala and what he would mean to

855
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: you having a coach that is a motivator of men,

856
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: someone you respect, and I know you haven't had a

857
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: lot of that. So we can give you that in

858
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: New York. We can give you maximize your earnings potential.

859
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: And yes, you're not afraid to go to a team

860
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: that needs a lot of work because you feel you

861
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: are the man to fix everything over there. You'll fix

862
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: the Jets. And with their leadership, it's different. It is

863
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: not what it was a few years ago. Joe Douglas

864
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: is a guy that is well respected and he's making

865
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: the right moves right now. And they've changed their structure

866
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: over there. Uh. In terms of who reports to who,

867
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: it's Joe Douglass show. He hired his guy and Robert Sala,

868
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: so you could respect the team builder, the head coach.

869
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: The market is wonderful. They have the assets that they

870
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: could send back to Houston without crippling their future because

871
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: they are so filled chock full of number one picks.

872
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: You can get there and be the hero that New

873
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: York needs. And just imagine, just imagine if you became

874
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: the next Joe Namath. And I know that's a name

875
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: that some people your age, it doesn't really connect with,

876
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: but I know that you're somebody who understands history and

877
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: what that would mean. Gobs of money, great place to

878
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: play the hero of New York City. That's a city

879
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: that hasn't had a champion in a long time now,

880
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: it's been a while. You could be that hero. Come

881
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: come to us. I'm based out in New York City.

882
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: It's like Sean you you started, you know, you uh

883
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: just opened this restaurant in Houston, and what better place

884
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: to open a restaurant it then the East Village. Let's

885
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's get let's get creative. How of

886
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: Brooklyn whatever the food is gonna be great, You're right.

887
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean the NFL players, I think, you know, you

888
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: can become a superstar like Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes anywhere. Um,

889
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: but I do think Deshaun Watson in New York would

890
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: be as big, you know, as big as it gets.

891
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: They have, you know, the third most cap room right

892
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: now in the league, so you could pitch that while

893
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: you're giving up a lot of you know, draft capital,

894
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: which really shouldn't be Deshaun Watson's concern. Um, They're not

895
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: stuck in a in a terrible place to to add

896
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: talent anyways, and Robert Sali changes everything. I think they

897
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: had no selling point when we first brought this up,

898
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: and we had no idea who they'd hire. I just

899
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: thought they had no selling point for because because like

900
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: the one thing you'd have to point out is that

901
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: if ownership is super important, the Jets have really sketchy

902
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: ownership track record right now. But they do have a

903
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: GM and a coach that you can buy into mm hm,

904
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: not a lot of weapons, you know, they have a

905
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: lot of roster work to do. But the fact the

906
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams trade, as painful as it was, really sets

907
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: them up well here with the number two pick and

908
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: then those two picks. So the number two pick means,

909
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: obviously to the Texans, hey you could if you really

910
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: want to find your next quarterback, you could have anyone

911
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: you want in this class that's not um obviously Trevor Lawrence.

912
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: So if you fall in love with one of these guys, um,

913
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson at a b y U justin Fields at

914
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Um, he's there if you want it. You

915
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: can also take that number two pick and then trade

916
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: it yourself and flip it for more draft capital for

917
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: another team that loves it. Uh. And so that's such

918
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: a powerful pick to have dangled in the trade. And

919
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: then because of the Adams deal, the Jets could give

920
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: up number one picks and not put themselves in a

921
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: situation like Bill O'Brien did to the Texans where they're

922
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: just barren for years and they don't have a pick

923
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: draft after draft. Um in obviously would deplete their what

924
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: what they've built up in that surplus. But that's to

925
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: me what this has always been about. When you dealt Adams,

926
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: it was to have this this cashe picks to make

927
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: a move, and I think it makes a lot of

928
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: sense um for the Jets obviously, and Watson if he

929
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: has the It's kind of like the dice roll for

930
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Watson and all this the ones we've brought up before

931
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense logically in terms of checking

932
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: a lot of boxes. But I feel like this one

933
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: could have the highest reward if it worked out well.

934
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you know, reputable reporters are

935
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: all saying, um that the Jets are number one says

936
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: a lot about well, what where Watson's mindset is, where

937
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: his in his agent's mindset is. And I think it's

938
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: all about New York, you know, the city. I mean,

939
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: it can't it can't really be I mean in salad solitude,

940
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: But I think the New York factor of it all

941
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: has to be it that he wants to go live there.

942
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: He wants to be that guy right or else why

943
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: why would why would they be a top the list?

944
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's got to be New can't know, I can't,

945
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: I can't buy that. Know. The lure of New York

946
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: for an athlete, I mean, has made sense forever. And

947
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean they've talked about Deshaun Watson's hung out in

948
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: the village. He likes New York and stuff, So I mean,

949
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: but I but I do. I would separate Dan saying

950
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: that you think that the highest reward for Deshaun Watson

951
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: is in New York. I mean the highest reward is

952
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowl. So it's like the only thing I'd

953
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: say about something like San Francisco. The foundation is there

954
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: in San Francisco with a coach who's been to a

955
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I'm saying, winning the Super Bowls is part

956
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: of it. But to maximize your branding and to be

957
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: something of a legend in you know, the biggest city

958
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: in the country. I think his I think he thinks,

959
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson that wherever he goes, I have a chance

960
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl because I'm that special and

961
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: if you surround me with the right town, so then

962
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: what else can you add to that? But yes, I

963
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: think the in terms of the odds of getting a

964
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl championship, yeah, with nine. I mean as a fan,

965
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: being a fan of the New York team that's or

966
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: a Miami team that's, those are built in advantages to

967
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: getting these players. That's something that if you live in Cincinnati,

968
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: you're not getting those players. So you know, if you

969
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: logically it would pay off for the Jets, fans and

970
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: NFL circle. I wanted to know if Cassario cares about

971
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: the fact that it's the Jets. I think it's an

972
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: It's an X factor whether a Easterby and Cassario might

973
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: have some ill will to the Patriots, who knows, although

974
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, Bill, yeah, I don't think Cassario would logically,

975
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick, you know, puts this flowery thing out,

976
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, and about how important Nick Cassario has been.

977
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: That said, they didn't let them go to the Texans

978
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the time before. Cassario ultimately chose easter Be overstaying in

979
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: New England. And these trades do come down partly to relationships, uh,

980
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: and like who you want to trade with. So that's

981
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: an X factor. No one probably knows except for them

982
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: on the inside. All Right, I'm gonna spend the wheel

983
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: two more time. Um, I'm gonna add the Patriots and

984
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So we have Patriots football team, Cowboys Rams Steelers.

985
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: You guys got that? Okay, here we go the image.

986
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: All right, football team. All right, I'll do this one. Okay,

987
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: So Sean David again in a busy day Um, I've

988
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: been hearing a lot, you know, from the football team

989
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: in Washington. They they they're making the cell. They're making

990
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: the pitch to me, Ron Rivera new era. Look at

991
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: the success they already have, tough upfront. Um Nation's Capital'

992
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it all. I gotta admit I've heard it all.

993
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm not into it. I'd say I say we say God.

994
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: I say God's making the choice. He's look I'm looking

995
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: at um. I'm all not. I'm looking at the last

996
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: twenty years since this ownership came over. I'm looking at

997
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: some of the things. Even though Ron Rivera's you know,

998
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: helped turn the ship around a little bit. That that

999
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't love the way that they brought in Marty

1000
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Hernie uh and then kind of funagle that, Okay, he's

1001
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: not actually the GM. I want an organization I can trust,

1002
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: and I know I'm supposed to be pitching on it,

1003
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: but this is a relationship. You gotta trust me this, Sean,

1004
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I don't want to put

1005
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: you in a in a tough situation. So I don't

1006
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: care how many draft picks, how much money they're offering.

1007
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: I do not want to go to the Washington football team.

1008
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: That doesn't Yeah, that doesn't get my engine reven as

1009
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: a football fan either. I mean, obviously I want to

1010
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: do it to the Jets, but if he goes to Washington,

1011
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe it would be awesome. I

1012
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: don't know. But if there's if there's another team out

1013
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: there that would give me some Texans vibes in that,

1014
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: I would be I know, look, I know Ron River

1015
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: is great and all this stuff, but I don't know.

1016
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm not into it. All right, let's spend the wheel again, Greg, Mark,

1017
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: you have anything that to that? No? I think that, Like,

1018
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: why go from the Texans to an even more bizarre

1019
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: thorny or controversy laiden ownerships there? There is the whole

1020
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: attack on you know, the White House and everything that

1021
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: is safe there, and there's a lot going on. Okay,

1022
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. All right, here we go

1023
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: with that blank team. Do nothing? I like that? All right? Mark?

1024
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys America. What's not to love about the

1025
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I mean, you grew up a football fan.

1026
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Um I don't. Well, but that's the whole point, isn't it.

1027
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: That's the whole point because Jerry Jones is an owner

1028
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: number one beloved by his players. I mean, if anything,

1029
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: if anything in between you and me, Deshaun like his

1030
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: loyalty to some of his players may have been one

1031
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: of his bigger faults. Um. He loves to spend money,

1032
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: big money on all sorts of players. And you know

1033
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: they've got the Dak Prescott situation right now. But I

1034
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: think that this is a really, um pretty seamless incredible

1035
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: solution to that would keep you in Texas. Um, but

1036
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: think about the switch you have, the organizational switch you'll

1037
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: be making from a Texans team that is not even

1038
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: a little brother to the Cowboys. Just the Texans have

1039
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: essentially never really accomplish anything. You go to the most

1040
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: storied franchise in the league, one that has not won

1041
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl since Um. But even regardless, guys like

1042
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: Tony Rohmer are revered um all quarterbacks, the Dallas Cowboys quarterback.

1043
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: I could tell you this, not only would you have

1044
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: a career that where you could win immediate Super Bowls

1045
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: with a team that will always find a way to

1046
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: sign players. And you already are walking into an offense

1047
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: with Ezekiel Elliott and the best wide receiving group in

1048
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: the NFC. If you want to look at it that way,

1049
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: you could be the heir apparent to Troy Aikman, all right,

1050
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: to Roger Stall, back to so many Cowboys greats, and

1051
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: you move right into a Monday night football booth after that.

1052
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, this is you changing

1053
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL forever. I mean, I cannot

1054
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: think of a better pairing. I cannot think of a

1055
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: better pairing than you in a Dallas Cowboys uniform. It's

1056
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Speaker 1: every little boy's dream before they pick a team of

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00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: their own. It's the one brand that is um worldwide,

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00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: as big as any sports team out there, and bigger

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00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: than most any company. This could be you as the

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Speaker 1: centerpiece of it. And yes, I would be tough as

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00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: a rookie, but you right now, the Deshaun Watson, we

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00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: know you could handle it, and you could turn the

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Speaker 1: talas to Dallas Cowboys into a annual super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: This is the place to go. It's why it's the

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Speaker 1: last one we're doing. But this is the brand cell

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00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: that Trump's obviously even the Raiders, and especially a guy

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Speaker 1: that has now played an entire pro career in Texas

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Speaker 1: They're in very different you know, if you know Texas

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Speaker 1: is at all, there's hundreds of miles that separate um

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Speaker 1: Houston from Dallas, which is in North Texas. But still

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Speaker 1: you can't escape the specter of the Cowboys and how

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Speaker 1: huge everything is around Dallas. So I would think that

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Speaker 1: that would be attractive to him. He would stay somewhat local,

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Speaker 1: and he would have a chance to now be on

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Speaker 1: Still despite the twenty five years about a Super Bowl appearance,

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: Still the team that um A is always on prime

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Speaker 1: time and it always gets the love and be similar

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00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: to how I was talking about the Jets, like, you

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Speaker 1: could be the guy who goes there and returns the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys to prominence and makes them a champion again. Um

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Speaker 1: I mean a factor in the playmakers too. Yeah, I

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: don't know if Ezekiel Elliott is part of the future,

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Speaker 1: especially once you have to give Dak. You have to

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Speaker 1: give the money to Deshaun Watson that you're given to DAK.

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Speaker 1: I guess my question to you, Greg, is we all

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Speaker 1: love um Deshaun Watson? Is it that big en upgrade

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Speaker 1: to make the move and get surrender all the draft

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00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: capital to go from Dak to de Shaun well, maybe

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to give as much up. You shouldn't

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Speaker 1: as another team. If Dak Escot's part of the deal,

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Speaker 1: I love it was still number one or maybe two

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Speaker 1: number ones, right, I don't know da Dack in the

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Speaker 1: number one. Here's the thing, I don't think I love

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Speaker 1: this deal more than any other for Houston because the

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00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: only way to me that it makes any sense to

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Speaker 1: trade away a player like DeShawn Watson is if you're

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Speaker 1: getting the top ten quarterback back and I'd much rather

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Speaker 1: have Dak Prescott than the number two overall overall picket.

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Speaker 1: It makes all the sense in the world. That said,

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Speaker 1: these two franchises, I know that there's been a legit

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Speaker 1: sort of rivalry between the ownerships that you know that

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Speaker 1: they they're fighting for the same territory. The Texans fans

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Speaker 1: are trying to get Cowboys fans become Texans fans when

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Speaker 1: they moved to Houston, and um, it's a little it's

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Speaker 1: a little hard to imagine. But from the Houston side,

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Speaker 1: I think it makes more sense than anything. And from

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Speaker 1: the Dallas side, who's always been like slightly more lukewarm

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Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott than seemingly they should be. It makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense to I mean, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it sort of for the NFL. It sends

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00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: you to the NFC, to which you think the Texans

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Speaker 1: would love like it's just crazy enough to work if

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Speaker 1: the ownership can, you know, get over the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're delivering Dallas Cowboys Deshaun Watson, which I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they could get over that, because even if you

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Speaker 1: do get back doc Um and the fans will be

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Speaker 1: I think somewhat um pleased by if if we have

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Speaker 1: to trade our superstar, we can get one back, and

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Speaker 1: and he's a guy that everyone loves and Dak, but

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Speaker 1: to keep him in Texas and to make him now

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Speaker 1: the center, he'll be Like we said, fans might revolve.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you mean you want to send them

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Speaker 1: to Antarctica. I don't think they're gonna do it, even

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Speaker 1: if even with Dac there. Doak is the only thing

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Speaker 1: that makes it even remotely plausible. But the idea of

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Speaker 1: the Texans, who are a little brother in that state,

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys ever giving him their greatest player ever,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just can't say it. So Easterby and

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Speaker 1: Cassario have no link to the Cowboys Texans, but I

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Speaker 1: would think cal McNair would exactly, and he would. I

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Speaker 1: think I think the Textans really do have to think

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Speaker 1: about the impact they're making with their fans over the

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Speaker 1: next fifteen years. If you're getting rid of Watson and Watt, well,

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Speaker 1: you mean start thinking about it, because they haven't clearly

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Speaker 1: given that a second of thought. I mean they I

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Speaker 1: can't think of a team that more coldly is acting

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Speaker 1: like we don't care about the I'd much rather have

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, but to be Dak Prescott at first and

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Speaker 1: whatever a little more. I think that's it's not crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's how highly you know. I think Dak Prescott should

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Speaker 1: be viewed as a top ten quarterback moving forward. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's good, that's fun. I think we've got seven or

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Speaker 1: eight teams knocked out there. I mean Steelers, you know,

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: calm down, you're probably not getting them. Steelers the only

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Speaker 1: one I would say, I don't know if you have

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Speaker 1: the capitol, but Deshaun Watson and a Broncos uniform with

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00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: that offense the way it is, would be um intriguing

1148
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: to me. Although I don't know Deshaun Watson and Pat

1149
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Schirmer don't feel like, um, they're going to go down

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Speaker 1: in the record books together, so you have to make

1151
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: some tweet they they're them in the lines. Are the

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Speaker 1: teams I think that have the most that are in

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01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: position to be super aggressive. But well, what so, Dan,

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Speaker 1: what would you do if? Um, I'm just saying this

1155
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: is not impossible. This is the most second second most

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Speaker 1: capitom in the league and future picks the Patriots easter

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01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: being Cassario pulling, I mean to a point where pink

1158
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: pony is not even a joke. It's just simply come

1159
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Speaker 1: to is the most annoying thing in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would number one to be terrible. Number two. I

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Speaker 1: don't stress about it too much because it feels like

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Speaker 1: Texans again. If you're at all factoring in where your

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Speaker 1: fan base is, that you already feel like you've been

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Speaker 1: losing for a decade plus. This attempt to be Patriots South.

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Speaker 1: And if you then were to send your greatest quarterback

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Speaker 1: ever to the Patriots, I mean, what kind of I mean,

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Speaker 1: what kind of businesses that to do that? But send

1168
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Speaker 1: him any send him anywhere is bad business. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: They've been places that are worse than others, and the

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Speaker 1: Patriots to me, are on that list that it would

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Speaker 1: be it would come off even more poorly than other

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Speaker 1: teams that Mike toml On has that quote like, don't

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Speaker 1: live in your fears, you know. I mean he was

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Speaker 1: kind of living in his fears when he punted on

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Speaker 1: fourth and one from the forty eight. But uh, to me,

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Speaker 1: that's where the Texans have been. They've been living in

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Speaker 1: their fears. And I really put some stock into this

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Speaker 1: whole a FC thing. I really think that's them living

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Speaker 1: in their fears and they're gonna do whatever they can

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01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: because they're like just acting out of cowardice almost, and

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01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: that is going to help these NFC teams that want them.

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Speaker 1: Could could be, could be that way. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: it for the week. No network show this week. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back on what are we doing Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday,

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01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: So Tuesday next time you hear from us. Tuesday, we

1186
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: also have um a special Super Bowl week show planned

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: that will connect us with the listeners. Maybe we'll share

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: details that on Tuesday. So I don't have I think

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Speaker 1: we should we should share it now, all right, Ricky,

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Speaker 1: why don't you set the table there? Yes? So we

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: are going to be doing a virtual show, not a

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Speaker 1: live show, so there's only gonna be a limited amount

1193
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Speaker 1: of tickets that are able to go. It's going to

1194
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: be free. It's like a zoom webinar you can log

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Speaker 1: in for. We're thinking next Wednesday at eleven am Pacific,

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Speaker 1: that's one pm Eastern, and that's whenever over wherever you

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Speaker 1: are internationally and just we haven't locked down registration links

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Speaker 1: or anything like that, so keep an eye on the

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Speaker 1: A t N podcast on Instagram, around the NFL on

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Speaker 1: Twitter are personal handles. We we will be posting this

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Speaker 1: on social so this space, so yeah, it'll be uh

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01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,919
Speaker 1: an invite only a little extra show and we'll we'll

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Speaker 1: send it out on social. We I d America. Information

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Speaker 1: is not getting to you as quick as you needed.

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Speaker 1: Get hit her up one on one and she can

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: give you the inform you know, the personal attention and

1207
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Speaker 1: get you probably in there on on get into the

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Speaker 1: cut right. Very interactive will feature mail bag and Q

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Speaker 1: and A with those who are in that room with us.

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Speaker 1: So that's cool. So we'll have that show next week,

1211
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Speaker 1: and we'll also have other podcast goodness, including our super

1212
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Speaker 1: Bowl preview show on Thursday, and then of course Sunday

1213
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Speaker 1: night Super Bowl Sunday, the final flagship show of the

1214
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Speaker 1: season where we recap the Big Game. So a lot

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Speaker 1: coming up this week. Thank you everybody who's listened all

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Speaker 1: season long and you know all these years. I love

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Speaker 1: you guys. All right, that's it. Dan handsOn signing off

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Speaker 1: four Quiet Storm the old Boss. There it is again.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of every bad club I had to

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Speaker 1: go to in college. Where are we going? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: where were going tonight. We're going to bar. Now we're

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Speaker 1: going you know, we're going to Landsdowne go on to club.

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: It's not again. Just you just got through it. You

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: just that was part of that was part of the

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01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: culture back then. I thought it was fun. Sometimes sometimes

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Speaker 1: you have to be in the right mindset. Depends what

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Speaker 1: happens to you. But I mean, anything could happen. Does

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Speaker 1: it sounds like the Ladies Night? Yeah, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: I would do disgusting things to be able to get

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Speaker 1: back to Landsdown Street anywhere. Ladies Night, Ladies, drink free, ladies, ladies, ladies.

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01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: The desperation to get women into clubs and bars by

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Speaker 1: promoters is one of the funniest things, all right, Dan

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Speaker 1: Hanson signing off for quiet Storm, Ricky Hollywood, Ricky Landsdown.

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Speaker 1: I call her quiet Storm and the Great Henry Hotchon

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Speaker 1: until Tuesday