1
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,840
Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

2
00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,120
Speaker 2: What is up straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

3
00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,160
Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday. Je to eleven feels like an eternity

4
00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,440
Speaker 2: since we had our last NBA Finals game. We got

5
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Game three tonight in Indiana. I'll have a best bet

6
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,960
Speaker 2: at the end. We had a guest schedule for today.

7
00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 2: She had to push it to later in the week.

8
00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680
Speaker 2: She's a big deal on Instagram. I think you'll enjoy

9
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,560
Speaker 2: the interview. And obviously we're now on YouTube. My son

10
00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,159
Speaker 2: last what was it last August, was like, Dad, you

11
00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,600
Speaker 2: gotta be on YouTube more. I got kids telling me

12
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,000
Speaker 2: in school they saw your take on so and so

13
00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,240
Speaker 2: on YouTube. Why is Kevin Durant yelling at you on YouTube?

14
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not on YouTube, So I guess

15
00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320
Speaker 2: they put some HERD clips on there. So I started

16
00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,840
Speaker 2: a YouTube page. It's a lot of work, guys, obviously, listen,

17
00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400
Speaker 2: everything in life is a lot of work. And my

18
00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,559
Speaker 2: son's like, Dad, mister beast took like years years before

19
00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,600
Speaker 2: his YouTube blew up. I'm like, bro a, I just

20
00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,040
Speaker 2: don't really have an interest in it blowing up. I mean,

21
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,280
Speaker 2: you have to really put a time energy. I got

22
00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,119
Speaker 2: two jobs besides the YouTube and the IG and the Twitter,

23
00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,119
Speaker 2: and then you know, I got to drive you guys. Right. Anyways,

24
00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,479
Speaker 2: I don't need to ramble, but I bring up YouTube

25
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560
Speaker 2: because one of the bigger things that I'm on there

26
00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,400
Speaker 2: for is that whole Kevin Durant Teta tet and I

27
00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,360
Speaker 2: kind of want to start the pod here talking about

28
00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,479
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant because I got a text from a couple

29
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,679
Speaker 2: of my boys kind of laughing at Kevin Durant. I'm like, oh,

30
00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,240
Speaker 2: what did he do now? And essentially, you know, it's June.

31
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,560
Speaker 2: Kd's probably biting time until he gets traded. You can

32
00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,920
Speaker 2: only watch so much WNBA, and so Kd's spending all

33
00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,560
Speaker 2: his days on social media, and it's like, well, that's

34
00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,800
Speaker 2: not healthy. It's not and all these people because it's

35
00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,480
Speaker 2: the Internet and there's really nothing going on outside of

36
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, a pretend civil war out here in California,

37
00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000
Speaker 2: but there's just there's not a lot happening in sports.

38
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,040
Speaker 2: But sports fans are online all the time. People are

39
00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,680
Speaker 2: online all frickin' day. Man. Listen. I'm on on social

40
00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,519
Speaker 2: media during the show, obviously, but honestly, when I get home.

41
00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,360
Speaker 2: I like, I try to power down. I'm like, there's

42
00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,600
Speaker 2: no point in this, there's no win. You know, where

43
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,800
Speaker 2: can I invest my money? Where can I plan a trip?

44
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:29,600
Speaker 1: You know?

45
00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,400
Speaker 2: Where can I go, get a workout in, get some

46
00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400
Speaker 2: shots up, you know anything? Watch a show like I

47
00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,040
Speaker 2: don't want to sit online. It's just not healthy. And

48
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,760
Speaker 2: I feel like Kevin Durant's falling into that. A guy wrote,

49
00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,839
Speaker 2: I think it's time to admit Kevin Durant's trajectory after

50
00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,320
Speaker 2: leaving Golden State is very underwhelming. And I'm like, Okay,

51
00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,560
Speaker 2: that's been said a million times. What's different? Why did

52
00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,360
Speaker 2: KAD respond? Because he was online and Kevin Durant doesn't

53
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000
Speaker 2: follow this guy. He must have searched his name or

54
00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,080
Speaker 2: somebody said it to him and KD goes. I highly disagree.

55
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,520
Speaker 2: Want a debate, guys, this is one of the fifteen

56
00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,120
Speaker 2: greatest players in the history of basketball jumping online to

57
00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,800
Speaker 2: debate with sports fans who are anonymous. This guy is, Oh,

58
00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,720
Speaker 2: it might be a girl, Hannah hoops ha Na looks

59
00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560
Speaker 2: like an image of a girl, but at this stage

60
00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,079
Speaker 2: in the game, who knows. You never know who you're

61
00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,120
Speaker 2: talking to. I can side note I cannot imagine dating

62
00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,920
Speaker 2: in the social media era. I mean, I've talked to

63
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,640
Speaker 2: so many people who meet someone on one of these apps,

64
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,919
Speaker 2: bumble hinge whatever they are, and they're like, wait a minute,

65
00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:39,040
Speaker 2: your photo does not quite match your person, like this

66
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,400
Speaker 2: is what was fifteen years ago? And sometimes I mean, hell,

67
00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,560
Speaker 2: there's guys getting catfished on you. Just Manti Tayo, who

68
00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,440
Speaker 2: I guess is an announcer now or he's gonna join

69
00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,360
Speaker 2: that morning show, Good Morning Football. I didn't even know

70
00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720
Speaker 2: he was in sports media, So Manti Tayo got catfish

71
00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,440
Speaker 2: famously thought he was talking to a girl. He was

72
00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440
Speaker 2: talking to some and so I don't know if Kevin

73
00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,200
Speaker 2: Durant even cared whether it was a man or woman,

74
00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,360
Speaker 2: boy or girl. And then of course, you know Jabroni's

75
00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 2: set their notifications anytime Kevin Durant has a damn word online.

76
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,680
Speaker 2: So some random anonymous dude, what have you done since

77
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 2: leaving Brooklyn was a failure? Phoenix currently is a failure

78
00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,520
Speaker 2: and you're about to jump ship to the next best

79
00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,479
Speaker 2: available team. Lol. I mean, I guess this guy was

80
00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,479
Speaker 2: watching The Herd or I don't know, listening to this

81
00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,880
Speaker 2: podcast over the last six months where the Suns have

82
00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,320
Speaker 2: been failing. The last time he was in the playoffs,

83
00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,400
Speaker 2: they got swept by Anthony Edwards. They also got swept

84
00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,400
Speaker 2: when he was in Brooklyn, Yes with a super team

85
00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,280
Speaker 2: by Jason Tatum and the Celtics. And it's like, yeah, okay,

86
00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 2: there's nothing new here, but this is what's new. Kevin

87
00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,919
Speaker 2: dur Brant replies to this RANDO All Stars fifty forty

88
00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,400
Speaker 2: ninety all NBA efficient buckets. Brother, I also so got

89
00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,800
Speaker 2: a career high assist one year, hit thirty k points,

90
00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,039
Speaker 2: won a couple gold Olympic Golds, and MVPs. What a career.

91
00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,159
Speaker 2: And I'm still going I love my life. You guys

92
00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,600
Speaker 2: know when somebody's really selling themselves hard, Oh I love it,

93
00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 2: they don't, and they're trying to talk themselves into loving it.

94
00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many examples of Oh I love

95
00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,840
Speaker 2: this house. Oh it's the best. Meanwhile, you look around

96
00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,840
Speaker 2: it. It just needs a ton of odds and ends. You've

97
00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440
Speaker 2: got to do stuff. It's constant upkeep. You love the

98
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,000
Speaker 2: idea of the house, you don't actually love the house.

99
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,799
Speaker 2: And my guess is Kevin Durant is out here trying

100
00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,640
Speaker 2: to pump himself up because he is super frickin' pissed

101
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,799
Speaker 2: off that leaving Golden State.

102
00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,279
Speaker 1: What fuck?

103
00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,599
Speaker 2: I guess it was a summer of twenty nineteen that

104
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,719
Speaker 2: was like the biggest mistake of his career. Leaving Oklahoma

105
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,479
Speaker 2: City was a genius move. I mean it worked out perfect.

106
00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,080
Speaker 2: He goes to Golden State. He's the best player on

107
00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,400
Speaker 2: two championship winning teams. I believe that team is the

108
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,839
Speaker 2: greatest team in NBA history. I don't know that there's

109
00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,000
Speaker 2: much of an argument. Guys. They went sixteen and one.

110
00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,200
Speaker 2: That's the best record in NBA playoff history. They annihilated

111
00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 2: their opponents. And oh, by the way, the one game

112
00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,720
Speaker 2: they lost the Boston Celts. No, no, not the Celtics.

113
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000
Speaker 2: What am I saying? The Cleveland Cavaliers set a record

114
00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520
Speaker 2: for most three pointers in an NBA Finals game. I

115
00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,159
Speaker 2: think they hit twenty six or twenty eight, some number

116
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:35,560
Speaker 2: like that. It took a historic performance to beat those worst.

117
00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 2: I had predicted four to zero and I was looking

118
00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 2: amazingly genius, and I think it was three o. And

119
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,440
Speaker 2: then of course the Cavs showed up and didn't get

120
00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,000
Speaker 2: swept because of that, and that one hurt I had

121
00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,200
Speaker 2: money on sweep, it would have paid really well of

122
00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 2: memory serves. And like he just left to go hang

123
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680
Speaker 2: out with Kyrie Irving in Brooklyn and create his own thing,

124
00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,600
Speaker 2: and like, listen, man, sometimes guys leave, you know, successful

125
00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,359
Speaker 2: companies are like, I'm gonna start my own shop. And

126
00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that Kevin Durrett technically started the Brooklyn thing.

127
00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120
Speaker 2: It feels like it was more of a Kyrie thing.

128
00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,800
Speaker 2: But either way, he went there and they just didn't

129
00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,280
Speaker 2: pull it off. Now you could argue, well, they had

130
00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,120
Speaker 2: injuries in the playoffs and James Harden and the tow

131
00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,080
Speaker 2: on the line against the Bucks in the playoffs, and yeah,

132
00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

133
00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes guys unfortunately get unlucky, you know. I mean, if

134
00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,920
Speaker 2: Katie doesn't go down with the Achilles against the Raptors

135
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520
Speaker 2: they win three straight, does he stay in Golden State?

136
00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, how do you leave that? I mean,

137
00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,920
Speaker 2: it's really unbelieved. That was one of the you know,

138
00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960
Speaker 2: if you look back on the NBA the last forty

139
00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,400
Speaker 2: or fifty years, if you just look at two results

140
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,440
Speaker 2: that kind of changed the course of the NBA, well

141
00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,880
Speaker 2: you could say three, I would say the Lebron performance

142
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,720
Speaker 2: against Detroit when he was twenty two with like he

143
00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960
Speaker 2: had like twenty five points straight in the fourth quarter.

144
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,400
Speaker 2: Some that's one of the best performances I've ever seen.

145
00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,280
Speaker 2: But that game took down the Pistons. He gets to

146
00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,800
Speaker 2: the finals. I'm of the belief that that team. Danny

147
00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,760
Speaker 2: Ainge saw that and was like, well shit, nobody's beating Lebron.

148
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,520
Speaker 2: We gotta go get KG and Ray Allen. That then

149
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,680
Speaker 2: gets Boston a stack team. Lebron says, I've got I

150
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,960
Speaker 2: can't I can't do it here. My guys can't get me, dudes,

151
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 2: I've got a bounce, and that's when Lebron forms the heatles.

152
00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:36,080
Speaker 2: The next massive, enormous game was a Game five, no

153
00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,240
Speaker 2: Game six in Boston. It was five or six, but no, no,

154
00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,559
Speaker 2: it had to be Game six. Celtics were up three

155
00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,840
Speaker 2: to two and could have closed out Lebron at home,

156
00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,120
Speaker 2: and that's where Lebron had like forty five, fifteen and five.

157
00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you go look it up on YouTube. He was.

158
00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,040
Speaker 2: He just refused to let the heat lose. They had

159
00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,120
Speaker 2: lost to the MAVs the year prior, so when Lebron

160
00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,000
Speaker 2: does that, he essentially saves the Heat. They go on

161
00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040
Speaker 2: to win the series, they beat the Under in the championship,

162
00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,720
Speaker 2: and they move on and get rings. The next one

163
00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:09,160
Speaker 2: had to be Game six in OKC Klay Thompson's nine threes.

164
00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,120
Speaker 2: I keep forgetting the number, but it is incredible to

165
00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,040
Speaker 2: watch that game back and as a result the Thunder

166
00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,840
Speaker 2: losing seven, Kad ends up leaving for the Warriors. If

167
00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,480
Speaker 2: the Thunder beat the Warriors in that series, if Clay

168
00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,320
Speaker 2: doesn't go nuclear, does Kad leave after going to the

169
00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 2: finals to a team he beat? Probably not. And then

170
00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,240
Speaker 2: I think certainly that that injury against the Raptors in

171
00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,280
Speaker 2: Toronto getting that title triggered Katie to leave again. And

172
00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,480
Speaker 2: you know, those four moves in what like a twenty

173
00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,080
Speaker 2: year span, so much change about the NBA. And I

174
00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,840
Speaker 2: like Kevin Durant as much as the next guy. I

175
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 2: don't think his market right now is as robust as

176
00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,240
Speaker 2: Shams is willing to tell you and you guys can

177
00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,240
Speaker 2: go do the homework. Shams is very tight with Kevin

178
00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:03,200
Speaker 2: Durant's guy, Rich Clemban, and clear all the reporting on

179
00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,640
Speaker 2: KD is coming from one one one guy right as

180
00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,760
Speaker 2: Cham's so you do the math there and tell me

181
00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,720
Speaker 2: who's pushing what. So I just don't know where kd

182
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,480
Speaker 2: ends up going. And it's weird because he's he's taken

183
00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,520
Speaker 2: so many hits here the last few years that I

184
00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,520
Speaker 2: actually had somebody tweet at me, Oh yeah, Kevin Durantz

185
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,440
Speaker 2: better than Larry Bird. And you know, he tried to

186
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,160
Speaker 2: throw a couple numbers at me in the playoffs. We'll

187
00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,960
Speaker 2: look at Kadi's stats in the playoffs. I mean, oh

188
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,680
Speaker 2: my gosh, and who would win one on one? And

189
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,079
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here, like, is the Internet that dumb?

190
00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,720
Speaker 2: Are we really doing this? And like, I'm not one

191
00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,280
Speaker 2: of these old school guys, olders better, I'm not. I'm

192
00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,520
Speaker 2: definitely not. Larry Bird as a rookie was first team

193
00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,640
Speaker 2: All NBA. He was first team All NBA, meaning when

194
00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240
Speaker 2: they picked the best players in the league, he was

195
00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,720
Speaker 2: one of the top five the first nine years of

196
00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,000
Speaker 2: his career, Like, I mean, can you even fathom that? Now?

197
00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,120
Speaker 2: I know a lot of guys came into the league younger.

198
00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,360
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan didn't come in younger. Larry Bird actually went

199
00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,040
Speaker 2: did he spent some time in college Magic, did a

200
00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,760
Speaker 2: little bit at Michigan State shack LSU. Some of the

201
00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,760
Speaker 2: all time greats did go to college, but like Larry Bird,

202
00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760
Speaker 2: comes into the league and was first team All NBA.

203
00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,720
Speaker 2: He won three straight MVP Awards. I'm just telling you

204
00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,640
Speaker 2: I hated the Boston Celtics with every fiber of my

205
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,120
Speaker 2: being as a little kid. Now I was little. I

206
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,360
Speaker 2: didn't really know. I just knew. Oh. I was born

207
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,280
Speaker 2: in New York. Oh, we go to New York on

208
00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,439
Speaker 2: holidays because my film is from there. Oh, Oh my gosh,

209
00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm a New York guy.

210
00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,680
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

211
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,040
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

212
00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,280
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

213
00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,079
Speaker 1: listen live.

214
00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,040
Speaker 2: And I think I've told this story before. My dad

215
00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,680
Speaker 2: had a business trip in it in LA like literally

216
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,320
Speaker 2: one of the few business trips he had, and it

217
00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,280
Speaker 2: just so happened the Knicks were playing the Lakers. So

218
00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 2: the first two games I ever went to were Nicks

219
00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,520
Speaker 2: versus the Lakers, And of course I fell in love

220
00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,640
Speaker 2: with the Lakers, how could you not? And Lakers had

221
00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,559
Speaker 2: a heated rivalry, shall we say, with the Celtics in

222
00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,760
Speaker 2: the eighties, almost every year they seemed like they were

223
00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,680
Speaker 2: battling in the finals Magic and Bird, and I was

224
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,640
Speaker 2: like team Lakers, team Magic, and I was very, very

225
00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,800
Speaker 2: very anti Celtics. And I still can respect it. I'm

226
00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,000
Speaker 2: sorry Larry Bird had a better career than Kevin Durant.

227
00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can argue that, Like, you

228
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,120
Speaker 2: can't tell the story of the NBA without Larry Bird, you,

229
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it's tougher for sure, then if you tried

230
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,439
Speaker 2: to do that without Kevin Durant, Like obviously k D

231
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,199
Speaker 2: to the Warriors significant, but what Larry and Magic did

232
00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,320
Speaker 2: for the league in the nineteen eighties, you know, we

233
00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,480
Speaker 2: don't need to talk about that again, but essentially they

234
00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,040
Speaker 2: created the modern NBA. And I don't know, I just

235
00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,959
Speaker 2: I can't put Durant ahead of Larry Bird in any way,

236
00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,080
Speaker 2: shape or form. And I wonder where Kadie's gonna end up.

237
00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,840
Speaker 2: And it's weird. I know, I had a guy. So

238
00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,160
Speaker 2: we had a men'sley game on Monday night and your

239
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,400
Speaker 2: boy did not play well. Something's wrong. So I've been

240
00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,920
Speaker 2: hooping a lot lately and lifting. You know, summer's coming up.

241
00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get jacked. I know, laugh all you want,

242
00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,320
Speaker 2: what are you doing trying to get Jack? Give me break?

243
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,240
Speaker 2: And I made the mistake a couple like three weeks

244
00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800
Speaker 2: ago of playing three days in a row. I played

245
00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,320
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, then I played in a league game Sunday,

246
00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040
Speaker 2: and then a league game Monday night, and then I

247
00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,560
Speaker 2: played again Wednesday. And after the game Wednesday, like my

248
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,600
Speaker 2: back was hurting, my knees were hurting. My knees haven't

249
00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,200
Speaker 2: stopped hurting. So it's not like right on the knee,

250
00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,000
Speaker 2: but it's like the muscles around the knee are just inflamed.

251
00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,480
Speaker 2: And I feel like, based on CHATGBT, which is you know,

252
00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 2: one of my favorite doctors that I probably have something

253
00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120
Speaker 2: called jumper's knee. So I have to just ice it

254
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,160
Speaker 2: every day. Listen, I instant as you're icing your knees,

255
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,719
Speaker 2: you know, typing stuff, doing your taxes, whatever, and then

256
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760
Speaker 2: you look up you're like, oh my gosh, I'm like

257
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 2: every NBA player from the eighties and nineties would sit

258
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,000
Speaker 2: on the bench with huge ice packs on their knees.

259
00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,120
Speaker 2: That's where I am, except I'm not in the NBA.

260
00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,720
Speaker 2: It just it's a weird, strange feeling and like, you know,

261
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,200
Speaker 2: being really ineffective is frustrating to me. So I'm having

262
00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200
Speaker 2: a bad game and I'm a realist, so I pull

263
00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,920
Speaker 2: myself out and I'm just like disappointing. This guy who

264
00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,120
Speaker 2: we beat last week is like, oh, J Mack, hey,

265
00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,120
Speaker 2: I heard you got this is literally during the game.

266
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,280
Speaker 2: You know, he's dex to be on the bench and

267
00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,680
Speaker 2: he'sa liked y. Oh J Mack, I heard you guys

268
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,760
Speaker 2: on the radio, and I got to ask, you know,

269
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm probably your age. I don't understand this, but I

270
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680
Speaker 2: heard you guys talking about the face of the NBA,

271
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,680
Speaker 2: and I gotta be honest, I don't get it. I

272
00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,960
Speaker 2: don't ever remember growing up saying who's the face of

273
00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,520
Speaker 2: the NBA. And I was like, oh, that's a good point.

274
00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,080
Speaker 2: And he's like, it was probably Magic or Larry and

275
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,800
Speaker 2: then it was maybe Isaiah Thomas and then Michael Jordan.

276
00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,200
Speaker 2: But like, this guy's about my age, and I guess

277
00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,320
Speaker 2: he watched a lot of NBA and he's like, but

278
00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,440
Speaker 2: I don't ever remember like turning on a radio and

279
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,320
Speaker 2: hearing that, and I'm like, it's probably because of social media.

280
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,240
Speaker 2: With social media now, anybody anytime can start an interesting

281
00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,000
Speaker 2: discussion top ten point guards all time, best players all time,

282
00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760
Speaker 2: And whereas in the eighties and nineties, when you do that,

283
00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,880
Speaker 2: start that discussion, it's local. It's your friends, whoever's at

284
00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,680
Speaker 2: your lunch table, whoever's at the party you're at, you know,

285
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,640
Speaker 2: in the car you're riding with. That's it. Now you

286
00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,760
Speaker 2: float something like that, and if you have something crazy

287
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,880
Speaker 2: like Kevin Durant six's best all time, you've got the

288
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,120
Speaker 2: potential for two million people to weigh in on what

289
00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 2: they think about that. And that is when it goes

290
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,400
Speaker 2: viral and radio hosts or producers see it and they're like, oh, oh,

291
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,400
Speaker 2: that's a topic. This guy had Katie top six all time.

292
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560
Speaker 2: And I think that And I didn't explain it this

293
00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,600
Speaker 2: in depth, but I think that's how those discussions kind

294
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,960
Speaker 2: of come about. Is social media and social media is

295
00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,360
Speaker 2: hurting helping well, however you want to phrase it. Is

296
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,880
Speaker 2: it lazy? Yeah? Probably, But at the same time, I

297
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,760
Speaker 2: definitely think that I agreed with him, Like I don't

298
00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 2: remember ever thinking, well, Magic's not the face of the

299
00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,640
Speaker 2: NBA anymore, it's now Michael Jordan And I don't even

300
00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160
Speaker 2: remember the talk about the best player of all time

301
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,840
Speaker 2: in the eighties. You know, I did not listen to

302
00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,320
Speaker 2: sports talk radio. There was these guys when I was

303
00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,680
Speaker 2: in high school called like the sports junkies in DC.

304
00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't really know them. I think I might have

305
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,080
Speaker 2: gone on their show, like when I had the Big

306
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,000
Speaker 2: lead once or twice, or maybe it was their station,

307
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,280
Speaker 2: but not their show. I was in DC for my

308
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,920
Speaker 2: people one O six seven. This was back in the day.

309
00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's changed, but it feels like

310
00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,560
Speaker 2: the advent of the Internet and blogs, that's when you

311
00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,240
Speaker 2: get these lists in these discussions, which some people say

312
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,800
Speaker 2: are cheesy. But Kevin Durant gets roped into him a

313
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,840
Speaker 2: lot because he's so polarizing. I got a buddy who

314
00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,680
Speaker 2: used to live out here now he moved to Georgia,

315
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840
Speaker 2: and he is, like me, a huge Knicks fan. I mean,

316
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,399
Speaker 2: he posts on ig wearing like an Anthony Mason jersey

317
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,760
Speaker 2: and stuff, and he swears up and down. His favorite

318
00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560
Speaker 2: comment is Kevin Durant is not a real champion. He

319
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,159
Speaker 2: didn't win a real title. He went and joined the

320
00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,400
Speaker 2: worst and ordinarily I chuck him up as crazy and

321
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,240
Speaker 2: being a joker. But if you go on the internet,

322
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,439
Speaker 2: you see lots of people saying that, and I definitely

323
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,400
Speaker 2: don't agree with it, but I think at worst, Katie's

324
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,680
Speaker 2: fifteenth all time. At best, he's probably ninth. Now again,

325
00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,199
Speaker 2: everybody has their own list, and Durant clearly is going

326
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,960
Speaker 2: to weigh and you will not see Steph Curry jump

327
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,840
Speaker 2: in on a Twitter debate. He doesn't give a shit.

328
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 2: He's not doing that. Michael Jordan's not doing that, Lebron.

329
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll say stuff on social media, but

330
00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 2: he ain't doing that, And it just keep you keep

331
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,680
Speaker 2: coming back to, like, hey, Katie, maybe you need to

332
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,399
Speaker 2: stay offline, my guy, get out of the conversations. But

333
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,240
Speaker 2: look at this. I just got an entire podcast out

334
00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 2: of Kevin Durant chirping at somebody on Twitter. And he

335
00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,159
Speaker 2: didn't stop there. I mean, and this is where it

336
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 2: goes off the rails, and you just got to assume

337
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:21,199
Speaker 2: your boy's trolling. So someone said that in terms of

338
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,159
Speaker 2: individual success and accomplishments over the span of Kd's career,

339
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,760
Speaker 2: where would you rank him all time? And KD, where

340
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 2: would you put yourself? Because you know, if you see

341
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,880
Speaker 2: KD on Twitter, just tag him, he's gonna reply. Kevin

342
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,680
Speaker 2: Durant said one. Now he's probably trolling, but he's had

343
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,199
Speaker 2: a great career. Guys, he's awesome. The weirdest part is

344
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything resembling a bidding war coming

345
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,480
Speaker 2: up for Kevin Durant. Now we will find out Brian

346
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 2: Windhorst was doing the rounds on the media. Ends like

347
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 2: Kadi will be traded in the coming weeks, likely before

348
00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 2: the draft. I floated this yesterday, but like, it probably

349
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,399
Speaker 2: does nothing for the Phoenix Suns, But would you do

350
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 2: Embiid and the third pick for Kevin Durant? And I

351
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,160
Speaker 2: know that's gonna sound nutty, but the only the Sixers

352
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 2: can contend next year in the East, assuming they get

353
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,159
Speaker 2: off Joel Embiid. They have to, and the only way

354
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 2: to trade him, because nobody wants to pay this guy

355
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,200
Speaker 2: into his mid late thirties, is by attaching that number

356
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 2: three overall pick. And the argument is, well, KDE would

357
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 2: have Kevin Durant, Paul George, Jared McCain, Terrese Maxie. That's

358
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: not a terrible forsom. I mean, Jared McCain flashed last year.

359
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,120
Speaker 2: He's the TikTok guy who played really well. You got

360
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 2: him and Maxie, you got Paul George and KD. I mean,

361
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 2: obviously those two forwards are a little older, but I

362
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: would I think they would contend much sooner than if

363
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 2: they had Joel Embiid. But giving up Embiid and the three, Now,

364
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 2: why would Phoenix do that? Why would Phoenix get a

365
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: bed with Embiid? Well, they can get a foundational piece

366
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 2: in the to pair with Hooker and I guess you

367
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: could say MBI. But I don't know how much logger

368
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 2: a bid would be there. It is kind of an

369
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 2: interesting thought exercise. I'm sure some people are gonna absolutely

370
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: flame me. There's no way they're doing that. But I

371
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 2: just I don't know that you can continue to run

372
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: it back with Embiid and this is gonna be your

373
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: best time to add a piece and make the deal.

374
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,719
Speaker 2: So when horse polieves it's gonna happen, Schams is, you know,

375
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: totally in with the KD camp. I like Kevin Durant.

376
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: Although people can say, oh no, you said this, you

377
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: hate him. I mean say a lot of things about

378
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: a lot of people. That's my job. Got to have

379
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: a take. You know, I will close out before I

380
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: get to best bet real quick. I saw a report

381
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers got married. So if that's the reason

382
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: he waited this long to sign with Pittsburgh, it's kind

383
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: of sort of understandable he had other stuff going on.

384
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. How do you get married not

385
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: invite anyone or not have anything go on line at all?

386
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he likes his secrecy, but I

387
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: didn't even know he was dating somebody. I mean, I

388
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be an interesting story, certainly more interesting

389
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: than boring as Pittsburgh Steelers.

390
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

391
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

392
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

393
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: listen live.

394
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: We can wrap up with You're Gonna Hate this bet.

395
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: I like the Pacers tonight with the points and money line.

396
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: So Game one, I think it was the Obi toppin

397
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: game he had five threes. They make it unbelievable come

398
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: back and Haliburton hits the game winner. But they don't

399
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: get there without the role player Obi top and showing up.

400
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 2: So in game two, guess who shows up? Caruso and

401
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Wiggins, those guys where he combined nine of sixteen

402
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 2: from three. You're not losing with those right. Now, we

403
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 2: go to Indiana. Traditionally, who shows up in home games

404
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: role players? Okay, can Indy get a twenty piece from

405
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: Ben Matherin? Can can Ben Sheppard give me fifteen? Can

406
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant hit three threes? The way he did against

407
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: the Knicks. That's gonna decide this game. You know, Siakam's

408
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna get his Halliburton's gonna have his twenty twenty five

409
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: and twelve assists or whatever. It's gonna be the role players,

410
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: and I do believe they show up now. I do

411
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: want to point out Game three has been historically the

412
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: worst game in these playoffs for ok See, they were

413
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 2: down twenty six to Memphis on the road. John Moran

414
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: gets hurt, or that's an l Jamuraan gets hurt. They

415
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: come back and win, but that was a bad performance

416
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: until the star of the other team went down. Against Denver,

417
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 2: they lose Game three to fall down two one. That

418
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: was the game SGA walked off the court smiling against Minnesota.

419
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: They trailed by thirty one at halftime. Get their asses

420
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: kicked total no show. Now two of those they were

421
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: up two oh and you could say, well, they were

422
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: just like not locked in the Denver game. They were

423
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: locked in. They just got out play. The only way

424
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: Indiana wins the series is winning tonight. So I'm gonna

425
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: go ahead and take Pacers with the points and money

426
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 2: line could use this given a last round did not

427
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: go so well for me, And I will say this,

428
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 2: do you trust j Dubb or chet Holmegrid to show up?

429
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: J Dub twenty two percent on threes so far in

430
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: the series. It's only two games, Chet twenty five percent.

431
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: Those two guys are not showing up. It's SGA is

432
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: gonna get his thirty to forty points. We know that

433
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: is he gonna get help. So I will go Pacers

434
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: one oh six, Thunder one oh two, one o six,

435
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: one oh two, Pacers go up to one and then

436
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: it gets really really interesting. All right, I could use

437
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: that hit. Talk to you tomorrow,