WEBVTT - S12, Ep3: The Charge

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting in the courtroom in Morton County, North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 1>Jury selection wrapped up yesterday and today the Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>versus Greenpeace trial has officially begun. Energy Transfer's lawyer, Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Cox delivers his opening statement. Energy Transfer did everything bright

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<v Speaker 1>as it prepared to build the Dakota Access Pipeline. Trey

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<v Speaker 1>assures the jury there were protests, they were small, they

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<v Speaker 1>were quiet. He says, now enter green Peace. Several photos

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<v Speaker 1>pop up on screens throughout the courtroom. Here they are,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey explains, these are the Green Piece six. Not a

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<v Speaker 1>single one of them lives in this community. These people

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<v Speaker 1>are professionals. They embed in a location, then they escalate.

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<v Speaker 1>They are trained in how to teach people how to protest.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey says he's going to prove that the environmental nonprofit

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<v Speaker 1>secretly planned, organized, and funded a game plan to stop

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<v Speaker 1>construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline. Greenpeace attempted to make

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer look like Satan himself, he says. Shame on them.

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<v Speaker 1>He exclaims, they thought they could do it in secret.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought that we wouldn't be smart enough to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what they did. He concludes. Today starts the day

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<v Speaker 1>of reckoning. I'll admit it. The vibes are fiery, and

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<v Speaker 1>I say let's go. If Energy Transfer is finally about

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<v Speaker 1>to show us the dirt they say they have on

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<v Speaker 1>this huge nonprofit, my pen and notebook are ready. This

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<v Speaker 1>season of Drilled, we bring you Slapped, the story of

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<v Speaker 1>an indigenous nation fighting for its water, an environmental nonprofit

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<v Speaker 1>facing extinction, and an energy giant using the courts to

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<v Speaker 1>punish protesters. I'm Ellen Brown. The idea of Greenpeace as

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<v Speaker 1>a radical boogeyman is something oil companies and their lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>trot out a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were an evil corporate lawyer, I too would

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<v Speaker 2>go after green Peace.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Zelko is a historian at the University of Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a big book on green Peace. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Make It a Green Peace. He says Greenpeace has a

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<v Speaker 1>very particular history. It was founded just as the contemporary

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<v Speaker 1>environmental movement was taking off in the nineteen seventies. They

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<v Speaker 1>started out finding nuclear testing and then moved on to

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<v Speaker 1>protecting marine life. But what set them apart from any

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<v Speaker 1>other environmental organization at the time were these dramatic protest

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<v Speaker 1>actions at sea.

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<v Speaker 2>They were discussing what they would do. Once they found

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<v Speaker 2>some wiling ships in the Pacific, they decided they needed

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<v Speaker 2>to put their bodies on the line in some way.

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<v Speaker 2>That evolved into well, let's like, you know, put ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>between the whales and the harpoon boat.

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<v Speaker 3>They started off conducted a series of very grueling zodiac exercises.

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<v Speaker 1>Sensational direct action became green Piece's brand, and green Peace

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<v Speaker 1>was media savvy. In fact, the original group included journalists.

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<v Speaker 1>These were people that knew how to tell a story. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't just a North American organization, they were international.

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<v Speaker 2>They became, probably by the eighties, the most well known

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<v Speaker 2>environmental organization in the world. Not the richest or the biggest,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly the one that grew the most headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>For the purposes of our story, it's also helpful to

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<v Speaker 1>know that green pieces relationships with Indigenous people were spotty.

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<v Speaker 1>Green Piece's efforts to save sea cretures sometimes took aim

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<v Speaker 1>at indigenous practices. For example, an anti seal hunting campaign

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace launched in the nineteen seventies destroyed a major income

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<v Speaker 1>stream for Indigenous nations.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, harvest is the only economic source that

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<v Speaker 4>we have here on Saint Paul, it's the way that

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<v Speaker 4>people earn their money. But I'm not sure that's good

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<v Speaker 4>enough argument anymore with all the environmental that's attacking the

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<v Speaker 4>differicueal harvest.

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<v Speaker 1>But in recent years the nonprofit has really tried to

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<v Speaker 1>make amends. They made working closely with indigenous people a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of their strategy. But one thing Greenpeace has

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<v Speaker 1>done all along is commit to avoiding violence or property damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Early on in Greenpeace's history they made it very clear that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nonviolence was key, and they've you know, drown

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<v Speaker 2>the line ever since that we will never endanger people

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<v Speaker 2>in our protests and we won't deliberately destroy property.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, companies and governments began to label their actions as

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<v Speaker 1>eco terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any credible examples of anything remotely

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<v Speaker 2>like something you could describe as eco terrorism in green

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<v Speaker 2>peaces past, unless you know, you reframe eco terrorism as

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people just blocking bulldozers or hanging a

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<v Speaker 2>banner between you know, a couple of chimneys or under

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But criminalizing environmental activism has long been a corporate strategy

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<v Speaker 1>to get critics off companies backs, so have lawsuits can

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of just take me back to when you

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<v Speaker 1>first heard about, you know, the federal RICO suit that

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer filed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I remember it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Deepa Padmanaba is a senior legal advisor for Greenpeace. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked with her before the trial began.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about six and a half months pregnant with

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<v Speaker 5>my first child, so my memory is a little hazy

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<v Speaker 5>from that point. This one came at a very big surprise,

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<v Speaker 5>just because the Greenpeace entities had such little involvement with

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<v Speaker 5>anything associated with Standing Rock, from communications to on the

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<v Speaker 5>ground presence. So this one perplexed us.

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<v Speaker 1>But as DIPA tried to figure out why Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>had targeted them, one thing stood out.

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<v Speaker 5>At that time, we were already dealing with another massive

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<v Speaker 5>slapsuit filed in federal court.

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<v Speaker 1>Against slap stance for strategic lawsuit against public participation. Slapsuits

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<v Speaker 1>are about using the court system to silence powerful people's critics.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before the Standing Rock movement took off in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a law firm called casswitzpenceon Torres had filed a separate

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<v Speaker 1>RICO suit against Greenpeace. It's a firm that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is higher. Repeatedly this RICO suit was on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>a timber company called Resolute Forest Products. They claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>green Peace Canada's anti logging campaign, which targeted Resolute, amounted

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<v Speaker 1>to racketeering, defamation, and tortuous interference, which is just what

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer would accuse Greenpeace of. About a year later, and.

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<v Speaker 5>As we forward to August of twenty seventeen, the complaints

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<v Speaker 5>looked very similar. It was the same attorneys, it was

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<v Speaker 5>the same allegations of a RICO conspiracy, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>the same attempt to just scare us into silence and bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>Us energy transfers. Arguments seemed to be cut from a

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<v Speaker 1>pattern created by Cassowits. The Gibson dun firm was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in developing the lawsuit early on and then took over

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<v Speaker 1>the suit again years later. These two firms, with histories

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<v Speaker 1>of using RICO to go after environmental defenders, apparently tag

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<v Speaker 1>teamed the lawsuit against green Peace. Cassowitz spokesperson Email Drilled

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<v Speaker 1>a statement. It read, the firm spearheaded energy transfer suits

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<v Speaker 1>against those who wrongfully targeted these projects, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>gratified that energy Transfer ultimately achieved such a successful result.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to get energy Transfer in their lawyers at

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson done on the phone to talk me through their

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<v Speaker 1>legal fight. They all said no to multiple interview requests.

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<v Speaker 1>So deepa walk me through the claims in detail. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer's initial federal RICO suit against Greenpeace was dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen because the pipeline company didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to prove racketeering. The case was refiled in North

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<v Speaker 1>Dakota State court. This new case alleged a conspiracy rather

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<v Speaker 1>than RICO. North Dakota is a major oil and gas state,

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<v Speaker 1>experienced some of the Standing Rock protests firsthand, and happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the fifteen states in the country

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<v Speaker 1>that does not have an anti slap law on the books.

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<v Speaker 5>The claims in that lawsuit fall into three what I

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<v Speaker 5>called three major buckets. So one is a set of

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<v Speaker 5>defamation claims, you know, claims that they said, we spread

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<v Speaker 5>these false statements that cause them harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy transfers as green Peace committed defamation by accusing them

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<v Speaker 1>of deliberately desecrating sacred sites, by accusing them of putting

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<v Speaker 1>the pipeline on the Standing Rocks tribe's land, and by

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<v Speaker 1>accusing police and private security of being violent toward nonviolent protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you these statements have been repeated far

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<v Speaker 1>and wide over the past decade, and no evidence I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen indicates they originated with green Peace. But Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>is saying that green Peace used these statements to convince

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<v Speaker 1>people to go to Standing Rock and protest the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 5>The second big bucket are tortious interference claims.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a money thing. The Standing Rock movement included

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<v Speaker 1>a big effort to get banks that were funding the

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<v Speaker 1>Dakota Access Pipeline to divest.

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<v Speaker 5>So they claimed we made all these statements to banks,

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<v Speaker 5>and those statements cause banks to either pull out of

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<v Speaker 5>the decode Access pipeline project, cause them you know, refine

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<v Speaker 5>it huge refinancing costs, things like that. And then the

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<v Speaker 5>third bucket of claims are on the ground claim So

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<v Speaker 5>those are things like conversion and trespass where they allege

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<v Speaker 5>huge amounts of damages for delays and for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>direct damages related to construction equipment and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock movement is best known for protests that

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to physically block construction. Energy Transfer is arguing in

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<v Speaker 1>that those actions were orchestrated by Greenpeace. The conspiracy charges

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<v Speaker 1>tiele this together. To prove a conspiracy, you need people

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<v Speaker 1>or groups to be plotting together to do something unlawful.

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<v Speaker 1>It's boring but important to understand that Green Piece is

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<v Speaker 1>actually a network of independently run organizations based around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to spare you all the details, but you

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<v Speaker 1>should know that the green Peace organizations and Transfer is

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<v Speaker 1>targeting are green Peace International, which coordinates some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things green Peace national and regional organizations do, green Peace Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>Which does activism in the US, and green Peace Fund,

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<v Speaker 1>also based in the US, but exists to fund certain

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<v Speaker 1>green Peace activities. Energy Transfer by now already dropped half

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<v Speaker 1>of the supposed conspirators from the case. That's Cody Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal Tubles, and Red Warrior Society. The conspiracy theory they're

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<v Speaker 1>going with at this point involved just the different green

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<v Speaker 1>Peace organizations conspiring with each other. Energy Transfer calls their

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<v Speaker 1>first witness and Lucky me. He is a celebrity of

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<v Speaker 1>my imagination, Mike Futch. This dude's name has come up

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<v Speaker 1>about a bazillion times as I've investigated the pipeline company's

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<v Speaker 1>activities during the Standing Rock movement. He's a towering bald

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<v Speaker 1>man with broad shoulders and an American flag pin on

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<v Speaker 1>the lapel of his suit. Mike was the project manager

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<v Speaker 1>for the north the CODA section of the Dakota Access Pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that incident where the private security dogs attacked water protectors.

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<v Speaker 6>Man protester.

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<v Speaker 7>Protesters.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you telling the dogs to bite the protester?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike says it was the protesters, not private security in

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<v Speaker 1>their dogs, that were violent. The only violence was when

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<v Speaker 1>protesters came on to private property and attacked us. We

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<v Speaker 1>were always in retreat, he says. He counts property damage

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<v Speaker 1>as part of that violence. He talks about how the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline opponents cut hydraulicoses, booby trapped equipment, filled gas tanks

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<v Speaker 1>with sand and gravel, spray painted cabin windows, and busted

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<v Speaker 1>up equipment gages. And in the trial days that follow

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<v Speaker 1>five law enforcement officers take the stand and back him up.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them seemed to agree that the protesters were

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<v Speaker 1>the violent ones. But some of the things that they're

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<v Speaker 1>describing don't totally seem like violence to me. Here's Jason's

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<v Speaker 1>google Meyer, Deputy chief of the Bismarck Police Department.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not peaceful when you block a Highway whenever you

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<v Speaker 8>want and without warning, and they did that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason declined my request for an interview, but he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>with Rob Rice, that propaganda guy hired by Energy Transfers

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<v Speaker 1>private security contractor Tiger Swan. The interview was included in

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary they posted on Facebook back when the protests

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<v Speaker 1>were still going on.

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<v Speaker 8>We didn't even want to rest anybody that day. We

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<v Speaker 8>just got in a line and systematically just pushed forward

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<v Speaker 8>and tried to be as nice as we could about it.

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<v Speaker 8>Then it turned into they started burning vehicles in our way.

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<v Speaker 8>They started throwing all top cocktails at us, that were

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<v Speaker 8>throwing logs, rocks, whatever they could at us. We had

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<v Speaker 8>no option other than to move forward, and we did

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<v Speaker 8>have to use some amount of force, but opinion there

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<v Speaker 8>was a minimum mode of force.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason and the other police officers did share some first

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<v Speaker 1>hand accounts of what I think falls under a more

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<v Speaker 1>typical definition of violence. Jason testifies that he and his

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<v Speaker 1>family received threats from pipeline opponents. They feared for their

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<v Speaker 1>lives and left their home for a few days at

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI's suggestion. Another officer, Lieutenant Brian Steele, says that

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<v Speaker 1>during one protest he got hit in the back with

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<v Speaker 1>a big rock. Cy Wagner was one of the Greenpeace

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<v Speaker 1>staffers who went to Standing Rock. He was called to

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<v Speaker 1>testify too, and her testimony from Energy Transfers public relations

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<v Speaker 1>executive who said she also dealt with threats during the

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<v Speaker 1>protests and.

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<v Speaker 9>It was powerful that they received threats. It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 9>There were harm in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sympathetic, but he felt the testimony was missing

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of the story, the tactics and tools

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<v Speaker 1>used against water Protectors, like rubber bullets.

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<v Speaker 9>We didn't even talk about the the dog bites, the

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<v Speaker 9>bullets that people took to the face. People all started

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<v Speaker 9>hearing from all the equipment that was brought, the military

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<v Speaker 9>equipment that was brought to there, and people were sprayed

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<v Speaker 9>in freezing temperatures, Like the trauma that people felt in

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<v Speaker 9>that space. We didn't talk about that. We didn't talk

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<v Speaker 9>about the harm that was done on people who were

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<v Speaker 9>there on the front line non violently.

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<v Speaker 1>After that night where police sprayed water hoses, at least

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six people were hospitalized, with dozens more injured. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the Water Protectors Medic Group. Multiple journalists were hit

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<v Speaker 1>with rubber bullets throughout the protests, and on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of days police had guns loaded and ready to fire

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<v Speaker 1>on demonstrators.

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<v Speaker 7>They're all holding batons and guns, as you can tell.

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<v Speaker 10>And they started they stopped us up at the top

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<v Speaker 10>up there and started spraying and beating everybody on the

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<v Speaker 10>front line.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I remember. Energy Transfer says they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that it was defamation for Greenpeace to say

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<v Speaker 1>that police in privates ccurity used violence against nonviolent protesters.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not seeing proof that no nonviolent people got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt by dogs, rubber bullets, or water hoses. Another Gibson

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<v Speaker 1>dun lawyer, whose name also happens to be Cox, comes

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<v Speaker 1>up to question Mike Footge and Cox number two carries

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<v Speaker 1>to the stand stack after stack of brown accordion folders.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Fuotch confirms that each of these stacks are invoices

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<v Speaker 1>from a different security contractor. At one point, Cox number

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<v Speaker 1>two struggles to carry over one of the teetering piles.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer wants Greenpeace to pay them back for all

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<v Speaker 1>these invoices. When they tally it up later, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be over fifty million dollars. Some of the date to

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<v Speaker 1>early August, before Greenpeace employees arrived at Standing Rock, and

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<v Speaker 1>others date to twenty eighteen, literally years after they left.

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<v Speaker 1>With all this paper stacking up, There's something I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd looked through Energy transfers daily private security reports from

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock, where they were gathering intel on the movement's leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Green Peace was hardly mentioned in those at all.

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<v Speaker 7>What you'll see, your honor, is those situational reports, which

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<v Speaker 7>were done every single day, do not reference green Peace

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<v Speaker 7>involved in any activity at or around the protest sites

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<v Speaker 7>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Greenpeace's lawyer, Everett Jack.

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<v Speaker 10>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't secretly record him in the trial, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did say basically the same thing during a pre trial

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that I was actually allowed to record.

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<v Speaker 7>The only place where those reports reference green Peace is

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<v Speaker 7>that they also tracked what was happening online and traffic online.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the courtroom, none of the people on the

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<v Speaker 1>stands seem to know much about Greenpeace being involved at

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock, which seems like a huge problem for Energy

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<v Speaker 1>Transfer's case against them. Everett Jack brings that up again

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<v Speaker 1>when he cross examines Energy Transfer's project manager Mike Butch.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, for any of the security reports that you

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<v Speaker 1>saw or had access to. None of them had any

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<v Speaker 1>reference to any of the Greenpeace entities being on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in North Dakota and running the show in the

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<v Speaker 1>main camp. Do they? I don't recall seeing that, Mike replies,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I told you that none of those reports

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<v Speaker 1>from any of those contractors said that, you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any reason to dispute that, would you? Everrett Jack asks,

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<v Speaker 1>as I sit here right now today.

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<v Speaker 10>No.

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<v Speaker 1>He also says that it wasn't his job to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with the daily reports. If Greenpeace was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>mastermind of Standing Rock, wouldn't security have been tracking them.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Everett Jack again from the pre trial hearing.

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<v Speaker 7>They were filming and reporting, taking pictures of everything that

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<v Speaker 7>was going on, if there was something going on there

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<v Speaker 7>the tastimony of their witness They looked at web postings,

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<v Speaker 7>they looked at movements of people activities in the camp,

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<v Speaker 7>and that was doable in part because people were infiltrating

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<v Speaker 7>the camp to find out what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>None of the police officers who testify seem to remember

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<v Speaker 1>much about Greenpeace either. Energy Transfer's lawyer Cox number two

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<v Speaker 1>is able to point to a single police record that

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<v Speaker 1>describes a group from Greenpeace headed to stage of protest

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<v Speaker 1>with gas masks, but Sheriff Kyle Kirkmeyer says he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it. Sheriff Kirkmeyer does remember the reasons he believed

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people were showing up to protest. He says

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<v Speaker 1>it was because the Standing Rocks two Tribes chairman invited

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<v Speaker 1>them there, and because of the dog attacks and the

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<v Speaker 1>explosion of social media at the time. The sheriff says

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<v Speaker 1>people came because of the controversial nature of the pipeline itself,

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<v Speaker 1>and because they believed the area was the tribe's unseated territory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part of the treaty, the sheriff says, makes no

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<v Speaker 1>mention of a green Peace campaign. The next witnesses energy

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<v Speaker 1>transfers lawyers call up are Greenpieace people who couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>at the trial in person. They're pre taped video depositions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from them that we finally hear what Greenpeace actually

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<v Speaker 1>did do it. Standing Rock first is a green Peace

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<v Speaker 1>employee named Davy Cory. He's thin, with whitish hair and

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.199
<v Speaker 1>icy blue eyes. Davey drove a trailer called the Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>Sunlight from Greenpiece's headquarters to Standing Rock. The Rolling Sunlight

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<v Speaker 1>was equipped with solar panels to provide electricity for media

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<v Speaker 1>and legal people. Davy says he spent many hours on

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<v Speaker 1>back roads in the country following the right of way

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<v Speaker 1>of the pipeline. He was scouting, he says, collecting information

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<v Speaker 1>about what was happening with construction and passing it along

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<v Speaker 1>to indigenous activists in the camp.

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<v Speaker 11>He then sent all of that information the diagram of

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<v Speaker 11>exactly along with a plan of how we could blockade.

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<v Speaker 1>That's energy transfers lawyer tray Cox. Again not a recording

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<v Speaker 1>from the trial, just the pre trial.

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<v Speaker 11>How we could blockade and attack and vandalize these toys, airplanes, bulldozers,

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<v Speaker 11>equipment to disrupt and prevent energy transfer from conducting the

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<v Speaker 11>Dapple pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>He was referencing emails Davi sent, including one that now

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<v Speaker 1>flashes on the screen. It's from Davy to another Green

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<v Speaker 1>Pieace employee, dated October twenty sixteen. The company has a

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<v Speaker 1>place where all their toys are stored near the Bismarck area,

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<v Speaker 1>he writes. He suggests a protest strategy. If the entrances

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<v Speaker 1>were blocked, it would be very hard for them to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the job sites. Another Green Piace employee replies,

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<v Speaker 1>I just sent thirty straight boxes down, meaning lock boxes

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<v Speaker 1>plumbing pipes that protesters can use to lock themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. As the video deposition plays, the jurors are

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<v Speaker 1>watching intently. Two of them have a hand to their mouths.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine what they must be thinking. That this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, this is the outside agitator, the professional protester.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Cox again from the pre trial hearing.

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<v Speaker 11>He was paid by green Peace to travel to Standing Rock.

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<v Speaker 11>He was not on vacation. He received his salary, green

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<v Speaker 11>Peace reimbursed him for all of his expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace lawyers point out that there's no evidence that this

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<v Speaker 1>protest Davy suggested ever, even happened, and Davy later told

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<v Speaker 1>me of her text that he did not supply a

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<v Speaker 1>diagram of how water protectors could do a blockade. He

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<v Speaker 1>also denied sharing ideas about how to attack and vandalize equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>He said doing so would not fit into a nonviolent campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>We learned that in total, six Green Piace employees visited

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock, some for a few days, others for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. These are the guys trey Cox calls the

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<v Speaker 1>Green p.

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<v Speaker 4>Six.

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<v Speaker 1>For what it's worth, they all worked for Greenpeace, Inc.

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<v Speaker 1>No one from Greenfeace's fund or Greenpeace International visited Standing Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace Inc. Also donated some supplies. They provided about fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to a group called Indigenous People's Power Project

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<v Speaker 1>or IP three, and some of the six Greenpeace employees

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<v Speaker 1>helped IP three run nonviolent direct action trainings. Nonviolent direct

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<v Speaker 1>action is basically civil disobedience protest actions meant to disrupt

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<v Speaker 1>an activity that the demonstrators view as unjust. At times,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>those actions involved trespassing or disregarding police orders. But Energy

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<v Speaker 1>Transfer is saying that those training supported actions that caused

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<v Speaker 1>expensive construction delays and property damage. They're basing this in

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<v Speaker 1>part on internal emails where Greenpeace employees congratulate each other

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>for their role in the movement. Here's one of Energy

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<v Speaker 1>Transfer's lawyers at a pre trial hearing describing a green

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<v Speaker 1>Piece email also displayed during the trial.

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<v Speaker 12>So, then, what Miss Lambert says is these trainings reached

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<v Speaker 12>thousands of people and the peaceful and prayerful direct actions

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 12>that resulted in them were crucial for.

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<v Speaker 7>The Army Corps of Engineers to reach.

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<v Speaker 12>To deny the permit to cod access to cross the

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<v Speaker 12>Missouri at Lagwai.

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<v Speaker 1>Green Pieces Everet Jack said in the pre trial hearings

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<v Speaker 1>and in the trial that emails like this are not

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<v Speaker 1>solid evidence.

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<v Speaker 7>If I put on my game Jersey and my team wins,

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<v Speaker 7>and I said, geez, I put on my game Jersey.

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<v Speaker 10>And my team won, that must be why they won.

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<v Speaker 10>That is not the reason why they won.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer lawyers say that Green pieces total funding for

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock amounted to fifty five thousand dollars, though it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't clear how they got that number. They also show

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<v Speaker 1>that Green Pieces executive director at the time convinced several

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<v Speaker 1>foundations to donate a total of ninety thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>the Standing Rock movement. It's not nothing, but the Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>Swan spreadsheets I'd previously reviewed showed that over eight million

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars had come into the camps from crowdfunding alone. So yeah,

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace definitely contributed money to Standing Rock, but not much

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<v Speaker 1>compared to all the cash flowing it. And yes, they

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>sent six employees, but that's compared to a movement that

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>included tens of thousands of people. But let's put money

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and people aside. Energy Transfer is also saying that Greenpeace

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<v Speaker 1>launched a communications campaign that was full of lies, and

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>those lies got people to show up and also got

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.879
<v Speaker 1>banks to back away from the pipeline company. Except that

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the very first infammatory statement Energy Transfer claims Greenpeace made

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen until two months after those dog attacks went viral. Honestly,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>green Piece's post about Standing Rock never crossed my radar.

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<v Speaker 1>There were just so many other social media posts from

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>people who were there. The thing that is blowing my

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>mind is the scale of what Energy Transfer wants green

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<v Speaker 1>Peace to pay for. Here's green Piece's ever at Jack

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<v Speaker 1>from a pre trial hearing.

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<v Speaker 7>What planeifs want to do is attribute the actions of

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<v Speaker 7>every single one of them to green Piece. That is

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<v Speaker 7>not supportive by the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer doesn't just want green Peace to pay for

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>its security expenses. Trey Cox sells the jurors that the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline company had to spend seven million dollars on pr

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<v Speaker 1>firms to deal with the protests. They spent eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half million on the ranch that the most controversial

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>part of the pipeline passed through. They paid contractors fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million extra due to changes in construction plans,

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<v Speaker 1>and they lost almost one hundred million when they had

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<v Speaker 1>to delay the refinancing of their loan. They want green

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Peace to pay back what looks like nearly every penny

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>they spent to respond to the protests, as if green

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Piece was alone in making all of this happen. As

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<v Speaker 1>the days tick by and we get into weeks two

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of the trial, I'm still sort of waiting for the

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>smoking gun. It's clear that some of the Greenpeace people

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>participated in a few protests, but Energy Transfer hasn't shown

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>evidence connecting green Peace trainings or funding to the waves

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of protests that were happening almost every day, nor has

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>it really tied green Peace to any major property destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>The math is not adding up for me, and I

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 1>start to wonder if energy Transfer actually might lose. But

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<v Speaker 1>then something happens that makes me question my sense of reality.

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<v Speaker 1>I've started to figure out who all the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the room are, especially those of us working in media.

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>The first few days I meet reporters from national outlets

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<v Speaker 1>like The Guardian and the New York Times, and even

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>an international reporter from the Financial Times. But by week

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>two it's down to me and a local reporter from

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the North Dakota Monitor. And then there are the people

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.439
<v Speaker 1>that I thought were reporters but aren't. There's Will Fewer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's young and very formally dressed in a blue suit.

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<v Speaker 1>When I chat him up, he's a little vague about

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>what he's actually doing here. I google him later and

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>realize that he works for DCI, a notorious public relations

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>firm and one that has worked for Energy Transfer for

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>a long time. And then there's another DCI guy, Craig Stevens.

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>He's been sitting in a corner of the courtroom reading

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a copy of the Age of Innocence when things get dull.

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>He serves as a spokesperson for a group called Grow

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>American Infrastructure Now, which advertises itself as a coalition of

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>businesses and labor leaders who want pipelines to be built.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's been paid for by Energy Transfer. Legal filings

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I reviewed before coming here confirmed that as of twenty

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, Energy Transfer was paying the pr firm around

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollars per month to keep Grow American

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Infrastructure Now going. And then there's Evan Herman. He's nondescript.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>He wears fitted sweaters, sometimes over a button up shirt,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's here every day scribbling down notes. Evan tells

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>me he is working for journalists with an outlet called

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Legal Newsline, and at first I don't think anything of it,

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>but when I look up Legal news Line, I realize

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it's connected to Central North Dakota News, those weird newspapers

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that showed up with the homes of Morton County residents.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Central North Dakota News and Legal News Line are part

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of a murky network of news like outlets that are

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>really fueled by right wing interests. Seriously, a New York

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Times investigation found that some outlets in this network were

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>allowing corporate executives and Republican political operatives to order up articles.

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>The Times called it a pay to play network. Sites

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like the Central North Dakota News are replacing serious journalism

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of communities, and that seems to be

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>playing out in this courtroom. I figure i'd better invite

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Evan to lunch and see what he'll tell me. And

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point I start recording our conversation on

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>my phone. Evan calls himself a freelance investigative journalist on

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>his LinkedIn page, but at lunch, he admits to me

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that he's not really here doing journalism.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I hardly call what I do journalism that facilitating articles.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>He tells me. His first job for the network involved

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>talking to regular people from cities in the organization's coverage area.

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>He got them to comment on political topics of the day.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>In one case, he says, that meant interviewing a local

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>person from Mandan about their experience with the Standing Rock protests.

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<v Speaker 13>The stories I heard of like, right, like, nothing to

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<v Speaker 13>do with greenbes, but the yeah, my daughter was traumatized

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 13>and they brought a pig's head and work they Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan is talking about this Thanksgiving protest in Mandan where

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>someone decided to carry around a pig's head on a stick.

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It comes up all the time when I talk to

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>local residents about how they feel about the protests. Evan says.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>One of his interviews was published in the Central North

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Dakota News.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think one went in there.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, nothing to do with that, Evan says. For

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 1>this trial, he's simply sitting in the courtroom and taking notes.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>He hands them over to his bosses and they turn

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the notes into articles for Legal Newsline, which run without

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a byeline. Sometimes I notice Central North Dakota news cross posts,

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the legal news line pieces. Hevin acknowledges that the outlets

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he works for are backed by Dick U Line, the

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>billionaire behind the box company.

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 13>He is very privately the biggest conservative and Republican causes

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 13>in the country.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting, so he's kind of guided by his politics.

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, in funding the.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely true that you Line is a big political donor,

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and past reporters have connected the dots between him and

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>these weird media outs. But I think what was most

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>fascinating about talking with Evan was realizing that his sense

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>of how this trial was going was totally different from mine.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 4>No, they're making a great case, cos I think is really.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 13>Like look forget everything else, like to make it real

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 13>self for you look at their emails and that's what

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 13>made it hit, Like the openings.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 5>Hey, he's kind of delivering on that.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 13>So what I suggested the title for the next article

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 13>is a nexus is started coming again.

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>To me, this case is a mess, but for Evan,

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the story is becoming clear, so that like, here's the nexus.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 3>It's always been violence, physical damage, defamation.

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>So now but after a second lunch with Evan a

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>few days later, our conversation takes a turn. You're you

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>don't totally believe that human's God's high a change. No,

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>he tells me that the earth, like our bodies, has

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>a self healing mechanism, and I can't help but start

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to argue with him.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 7>Just like our.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Bodies, like we take you an alcohol, I believe the

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 3>earth is kind of like an organism and just like

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, we drink too much, and like we

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 3>have our liver and little talks and it's straighted out.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I think, I think, I think there is an earth

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>by self healing records.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>But what about people who die of alcohol?

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 10>No, well exactly.

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's not just that he's wrong that bothers me.

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>It's that he feels so comfortable saying this to me,

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's normal to not believe in the climate crisis,

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>and hearing this come from someone who's positioning himself as

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a journalist feels dangerous. When I keeps trying to fight

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>with him, Evan starts to get suspicious. He asks if

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm working for green Peace.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm not talking to Greenpeace, all right, green piece.

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm here as a reporter. But what I should

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>have said is, of course, I'm talking to green Peace

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because I'm a reporter. Regardless, Evan helps me realize that

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>my understanding of this trial is not shared by everyone

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in that court room, and those jurors might be closer

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in perspective to Evan Herman, the right wing article facilitator,

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>than to me. It's becoming clear that Energy Transfer is

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 1>about to wind down their side of the case. A

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>few days early, one of the last video depositions they

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>pull up is Nick Tilson. Nick runs an organization called

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Indian Collective. He's a citizen of the Oglalla Lakota Nation.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, he's the first Oceti shit Cooin person that

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>we hear from since this trial began. He's a founding

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>member of the group that Greenpeace worked with at Standing Rock,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Indigenous People's Power Project. Up until this point, it's felt

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking around what really happened at Standing Rock.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>But when Greenpeace presents its cross examination of Nick, the

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>dots start to connect for me. I talked to Nick

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>on the phone afterward.

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 10>The story of Standing Rock and what happened at Standing

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 10>Rock is a thousand times more compelled then the bullshit lawsuit.

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>He says during his testimony that The first nonviolent direct

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>action training he ever participated in was when he was

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>nine years old, and it came from the American Indian Movement.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>He received another forty or fifty nonviolent direct action training

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>since then. He adds none from Greenpeace, and he was

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>involved with establishing protest strategies at Standing Rock.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 10>We made a conscious, deliberate decision and prayed on those

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 10>decisions that this was going to be non violent, and

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 10>I'll say we maintained that throughout this entire process, and

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 10>the ones who had the guns on the front line

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 10>was the police and the military, not us.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Nick and the Indigenous People's Power Project worked with the

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock Zuo Tribal Council to develop nonviolent direct action principles.

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>They were handwritten on a big sign and hung in

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the middle of camp. Among them, we are not violent. Also,

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>property damage does not get us closer to our goal.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 10>The only reason green Peace and any allies are there

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 10>is that they're there upon invitation. Why some of us

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 10>even and felt comfortable inviting Greenpeace in the first place

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 10>is that some of our comrades and relatives worked in

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 10>that organization, and we trusted those individual people.

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Nick was one of the people who invited Greenpeace to

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.919
<v Speaker 1>come to Standing Rock. He was close with that green

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Peace guy, Cy Wagner, who was also an Indigenous People's

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Power Project member. Another Greenpeace employee was also a member.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 10>We asked them to help us with scouting. We asked

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 10>them to train people.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I asked him why would nonviolent direct action training be important.

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 10>The training that we're talking about is not some crazy trainings.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 10>Some people think that martinather King and Rosa Parks just

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 10>one day sat on a bus and launched a movement

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 10>with the reality is they went through training, you know,

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 10>and that training helped them be disciplined and help them

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 10>be effective and help them change the course of history.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It's true. Rosa Parks attended a two week workshop on

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>putting desegregation into action at the high Lander Research and

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Education Center soon before she refused to get up from

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>her bus seat. Nick sees the protest to stop pipeline

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>construction as an extension of the civil rights tradition. What

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>really strikes me about next deposition as it's playing in

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>the courtroom is how frank and direct he is. He

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>tells the lawyers that the Indigenous People's Power Project trained

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>five to ten thousand people at Standing Rock and says

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>he himself participated in dozens of actions to stop construction.

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 10>I was arrested in Standing Rock for you know, running

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 10>in front of machinery and locking down to machinery. And

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 10>on those days we want we chased off those pipeline workers.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 10>They went, they were running away from us. Those were

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 10>days of a victory for our people because on those days,

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 10>you know, we were able to stop destruction happening at

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 10>the point of construction.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I asked Nick about his decision to be so straightforward

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>in his testimony.

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 10>We don't regret anything we didn't standing wrong. We don't

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 10>regret resisting to fight for Mother Earth, to fight for

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 10>sacred water, to fight for human rights and indigenous rights,

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 10>to fight a corporation that was contributing to climate change

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 10>that will, you know, has the potential to impact all

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 10>human beings in the world, like we know what we

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 10>were doing there.

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, he sees energy transfers attempt to frame Greenpeace as

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the orchestrators of the movement as part of a racist legacy.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 10>I'll be honest, like when I read more into the

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 10>lawsuit and the bullshit that was written into there, in

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 10>all of that was like this continued pattern of erasure

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 10>and this continued treatment of Indigenous people actually that that

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 10>we're not capable, that we don't come from these sophisticated

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 10>nations that have the unique relationships with the federal government.

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 10>It had to have been this NGO. If anybody knows

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 10>anything about the Indigenous resistance movement, the last thing we

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 10>need is in Whte Ngo to come into our into

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 10>our movement to quote unquote save us, you know, because

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 10>those days of you know, quote unquote saving the Indian

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 10>are over.

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>On day ten of the trial, Energy Transfer plays its

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>last video deposition and Green Peace begins to present its defense.

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>We begin to hear from actual people on the stand

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>who worked at Greenpeace during Standing Rock. Cy Wagner is

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>denay In, an artist, and he worked for green Peace

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>for seven years. He wears his shoulder length hair swept back.

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.279
<v Speaker 1>He has a turquoise necklace in earrings, and wears black

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>rimmed glasses. I talk with him after he takes the stand.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>He said he went to Standing Rock because other Indigenous

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>leaders invited him there. It wasn't because of his employer,

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Green Piece, which SI sometimes refers to as GP.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 9>Regardless if GP is going to pay for it or not.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 9>I was going to find a way. He wasn't find

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 9>resources and make my way there.

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>CI put together a proposal and a budget request, and

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Green Peace did approve it. Fifteen thousand dollars would pay

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>for five people from the Indigenous People's Power Project to

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 1>go to Standing Rock. This is where Energy Transfer gets

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>their idea of the paid protesters. This amount came to

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.479
<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and twenty five dollars per day per

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Indigenous People's Power Project member, less expenses. It was a

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>stipend because people had to be away from their jobs

0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to be there. CI was there on his usual Green salary.

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 9>When I first arrived. Our goals was to set up

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 9>trainings in the intro to a nonviolent direct action where

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 9>we talk a little about history theory, we talk about

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 9>safety de escalation, and we met with a complete unorganized situation.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 9>No one was talking, people had their own agendas.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>It was chaotic. There were various groups planning protests and

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>even some others holding trainings. For example, SI said he

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>met folks from Red Warrior Camp, but they never worked together.

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>What's I really looked forward to was the Knights.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 9>It was so peaceful. It was Tea Schert whether still

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 9>you could go out in the night and see the

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 9>stars and see the moon come up, and you would

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<v Speaker 9>just go to your neighbor and there there would be

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<v Speaker 9>a circle around a fire, and they're most likely singing

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<v Speaker 9>the song in their language. And some of them I

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<v Speaker 9>knew are familiar with, and then some I just never heard.

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<v Speaker 9>Four in my life. I can't remember the last time

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<v Speaker 9>that indigenous people in the US have converged like that

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<v Speaker 9>and shared shared knowledge and wisdom and songs, unorganized, unannounced.

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<v Speaker 9>You could smell like the wood that they brought from

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<v Speaker 9>their regions. It was just overwhelming physical, emotional, spiritual experience.

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<v Speaker 1>In court, he tells the jury that he mostly worked

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<v Speaker 1>to set up an area for building art for protests.

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<v Speaker 1>He did help support two protests on the ground. One

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<v Speaker 1>was an action where members of Indigenous People's Power Project

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown to machinery. Another was a march in downtown Bismarck.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him about the nickname Energy Transfer gave him

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<v Speaker 1>and his colleagues. I don't know if you even heard this.

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<v Speaker 14>Maybe you did, but they're like throwing around this term

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<v Speaker 14>the Green Peace six, and.

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<v Speaker 7>You're one of them.

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<v Speaker 14>So I guess I'm just curious how it feels to

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<v Speaker 14>be one of the green Peace six.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's the other five? I guess, you know, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, call them any things, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 9>that's a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>S I says Greenpeace hasn't always been good at following

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<v Speaker 1>the lead of Indigenous people, but he's seen things shift.

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<v Speaker 9>Since Greenpeace has been around in since the seventies. They

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<v Speaker 9>have burned some bridges and rebuild some bridges with some

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<v Speaker 9>Indigenous communities. I think they've been learning a lot in

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<v Speaker 9>that process of how to show up in those spaces

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<v Speaker 9>because they made those mistakes. Within my seven years of employment,

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<v Speaker 9>I saw some changes. I saw the massive green Piece

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<v Speaker 9>ship make those turns.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace calls their former executive director, Annie Leonard to testify.

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<v Speaker 1>She says that green Pieces past missteps where it came

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<v Speaker 1>to Indigenous people led them to establish a detailed Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>people's policy, and that policy means that they would never

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<v Speaker 1>come to an indigenous nation and struggle and take over.

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<v Speaker 6>Greenpeace's policy is that we don't engage in indigenous led

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<v Speaker 6>campaigns from indigenous territories unless we're asked.

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<v Speaker 1>We chat outside after she's done.

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<v Speaker 14>These various documents we've seen say that Greenpeace supported training,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, maybe a few thousand people in nonviolent direct action.

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<v Speaker 14>Why shouldn't Greenpeace have to pay damages for that?

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<v Speaker 6>So a big part of Greenpeace's nonviolent direct action training

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<v Speaker 6>is in embodying nonviolence. It's de escalation. And I've gone

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<v Speaker 6>through these trainings, and boy do I find it helpful.

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<v Speaker 6>I found it helpful on that stand today.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, in her testimony, Annie repeated

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<v Speaker 1>a version of Nick Tilson's argument that civil disobedience is

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<v Speaker 1>a crucial tactic for American democracy. Trey Cox challenges her,

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa Parks didn't trespass on other people's property, did she?

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<v Speaker 1>Annie replies, Rosa Parks was trespassing because she was order

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<v Speaker 1>to vacate that seat, and the law in Montgomery at

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<v Speaker 1>the time said she must vacate that seat. Trey hits

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<v Speaker 1>back again, Rosa Parks didn't send a whole work crew

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<v Speaker 1>home for a day when she sat in that seat,

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<v Speaker 1>did she? Annie replies? She kickstarted the Montgomery bus boycott,

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<v Speaker 1>where for over a year people boycotted buses. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of bus people were put out of work because hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>and hundreds and hundreds of people chose to walk every

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<v Speaker 1>single day to boycott the segregated bus line. Tray seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have hit his limits. I don't want to fuss

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<v Speaker 1>with you on that anymore, Miss Leonard. The more of

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<v Speaker 1>this trial I see, the more I realize there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of really important information that's not going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it into the court room. Early every morning, the lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>show up before the jurors get there to argue over

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<v Speaker 1>what information can and can't be mentioned in the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>court sessions. And in the middle of Greenpeace presenting its defense,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Gian makes a big decision. He rules that key

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<v Speaker 1>details of a pipeline's safety report will be kept out

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<v Speaker 1>of the trial, even though the possibility of a leak

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<v Speaker 1>is at the heart of why the organization got involved

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<v Speaker 1>at Standing Rock in the first place. Also, we still

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard anything from any member of the Standing Rock

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<v Speaker 1>Sioux tribe, and it dawns on me that maybe we won't.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe has its own litigation still

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<v Speaker 1>going against the pipeline company. I could imagine all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons tribal leaders wouldn't want to be on that

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<v Speaker 1>stand and if green Peace is serious about their Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>people's policy, then they'd abide by what the tribe wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>But the funny thing about a lawsuit like this is

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes it shakes loose information that isn't part of

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<v Speaker 1>the plaintiff's plan. You see. I started monitoring this lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>months ago, and as Energy Transfer in Greenpeace exchanged legal

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<v Speaker 1>filings are over what this trial would look like, new

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<v Speaker 1>details began to bubble up about what happened behind closed

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<v Speaker 1>doors as energy Transfer built this pipeline. Some of those

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<v Speaker 1>details aren't going to be allowed in the courtroom, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people who really know the truth behind

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer's claims aren't going to be called to testify.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not a lawyer, and I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>stay inside the Morton County courthouse. The judge in this

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<v Speaker 1>case might have kept pollution out of the courtroom, But

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<v Speaker 1>by following this lawsuit, I'm finding myself pulled back into

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of what this story was originally about. The

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<v Speaker 1>Water Drilled is an original Critical Frequency production. This season

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