1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Breaking news, very sad and very strange. The former NFL 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: player Aaron Hernandez has killed himself inside his prison cell 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts this morning. Hernandez was found hanged with a 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: bed sheet on the window area of his cell. That 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven year old former Patriots player was just acquinted 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: of a double murder last week, but he was serving 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a life sentence for a separate murder. Prosecutors had argued 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: that Hernandez felt he was disrespected after one of the 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: men spilled a drink on him at a nightclub. This 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: is current Stories with Nancy Grace. Hernandez a New England Patriot, 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: former Florida Gator drafted out of Florida by the Patriots 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: before that. He's from Bristol, Connecticut. Once a star tight 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: end for the New England Patriots, Hernandez has already served 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: two years of a life sentence in the two thousand 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: thirteen killing of Odin Lloyd. Hernandez was found hanged with 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: a bed sheet on the window area of his cell. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: He was a football star. He was one of the 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: brightest and the best, and now Erin Hernandez is dead. 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: But not only was he a football star, he was 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: a murderer, I believe many times over. Erin Hernandez reportedly 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: hung himself behind bars on the very same day he 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: was scheduled to go to the White House with all 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: of his team members. Had he been on the team 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl? But no, he didn't make it. 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: And this after a not guilty in court on two 26 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: of the murders. This is crime stories. I Nancy Grace, 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. How could such a 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: bright future have gone so badly wrong? How could it 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: all go so sideways for Erin Hernandez. What we are 30 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: learning is that Erin Hernandez committed suicide immediately following to 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: not guilty verdicts on double murders with a sheet in 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: his cell by using the window. There was a window 33 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: in his cell. And we are learning that he had 34 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: written John three sixteen across his forehead, which we all 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: know is for God, so love the world. He gave 36 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him shall 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: not perish, but have everlasting life. That's what John three 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: sixteen says. I believe it does anyway, I'm doing that 39 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Alan, have you researched it? 40 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Are you sure that's what it says it does? You 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and I both being Methodists from Georgia, we used the 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: King James version back when we were kids, and that's 43 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: exactly the version that I that I memorized. I mean, 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: this guy, had he not taken a path of crime 45 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and murder and brutality in his life, would have been 46 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: at the White House today meeting with the President and 47 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: the rest of his team members. But everything went so wrong. 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Let me first address the suicide. Okay, what do we 49 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: know about that, Alan, Well, we know he used a 50 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: bed sheet, of course, tied around his neck and then 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: tied the other end to something of a window in 52 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: his cell. He also used whatever possessions he had in 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: the small single bed cell to block the doorway, perhaps 54 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: to give him a little bit more time to die. 55 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: It was about three fifteen this morning when a guard 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: doing a check noticed that he was in there in 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: that situation. They took him to a hospital and an 58 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: hour later, Aaron Hernandez was pronounced dead. He was discovered 59 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: in his cell by correctional officers at the SUSA Baronowski 60 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Correctional Center that since Shirley, Massachusetts. As Alan just said, 61 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: around three am and it was just another twist and 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: turn and shock in the life and the story that 63 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: was Aaron Hernandez a guy that was incredibly talented, and 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: along with his father, he really pushed him. He would 65 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: make him practice football hours and hours before he could 66 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: go out with friends or do anything else. Aaron Hernandez 67 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: was set to be a success, but then when his 68 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: father died unexpectedly from complications from a routine surgery, everything 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: went sideways. The first thing he did was he got 70 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: to college and he was embroiled in a drama there. 71 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: There was a an incident where somebody was sucker punched 72 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: and he was part of that. Then there was another 73 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: incident where a gun was pulled. He was part of that. 74 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: He managed to get through college without ever having a 75 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: felony record, but then man alan what happened after that. 76 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: He was at the University of Florida, a Gator playing 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: with Tim Tebow. Got into plenty of trouble there, but 78 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: he managed to survive it long enough to go to 79 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. But before the NFL would take him, the 80 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: Patriots had some conditions. They were a little bit reluctant. 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: They knew he was talented and knew he could be 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: a star, but they didn't know if he could behave 83 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: well enough to be on their team. And he swore 84 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: that he would. He swore that he wouldn't even agree 85 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: to buy. Was it bi monthly or bi weekly? Pot tests? Regularly? Yes, 86 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: regular regular drug tests to make sure that he wasn't 87 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: using although now we know in hindsight he was a 88 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: regular smoker of marijuana, had it in his house, had 89 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: a lot of it apparently. And now just before he 90 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: commits suicide, he's found not guilty on two counts of 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: murder for killing two men in a drive by shooting 92 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: outside of Boston nightclub. Now that was in two thousand 93 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: and twelve. Now it's kind of you need a flow 94 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: chart for Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, the two thousand twelve double murders. 95 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: And then you have the murder of own Lloyd, his friend. 96 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Now Lloyd murder, as I recall, was in two thousand 97 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: thirteen June two. Many people believe, including police, that he 98 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: really killed own Lloyd because Lloyd knew about these two 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: thousand twelve murders. He faced eight counts in all, two 100 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of murder, three of armed assault, charges of witness intimidation 101 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: for allegedly shooting his former friend in the face in 102 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: an attempt to silence him. He was only found guilty 103 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: of one count of illegal possession of a firearm, and 104 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: as he died, he is dying an innocent man, believe 105 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: it or not, due to a twist in the law 106 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: that says, if you are not alive at the time 107 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: your case, even though it's a murder case, is appealed, 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: then it's vacated and you are innocent. So under the law, 109 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: he died an innocent man. So the two thousand thirteen 110 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: killing are Odin Lloyd, who was Erin Hernandez's fiance's sister boyfriend. 111 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: In other words, a potential brother in law. I mean, 112 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of the connection there, because Aaron Hernandez and 113 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: oh Lloyd were dating sisters. That's how he became friendly 114 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: with Lloyd. It's just to say it was always the 115 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: same m O with her Nandez. He would go out 116 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: to a nightclub, get a few drinks in and pull 117 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: a gun and pal shoot. Now, the night of this scenario, 118 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: the two shootings, prosecutor's case was light on forensics, that's true, 119 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: and they relied heavily on testimony from a guy named 120 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: Bradley who was with her Nandez during the last two shootings. 121 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Not Lloyd, Okay, Bradley had immunity juries, never like that. 122 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: But based on what was put together, they had been 123 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: in a nightclub, two guys passed him, and one accidentally 124 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: not to drink out of his hand onto the dance 125 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: floor and did not apologize, just smiled and didn't apologize, 126 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: and that made her Nandez so mad that he goes 127 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: out to the car and gets a gun out of 128 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: the engine block. Come on, now, that's some gangster right there, Alan, 129 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: When you hide a gun in your engine block. Hello, 130 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean I've never even done I've never even done that. Well, 131 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: of course you haven't. Okay, you're not in a gang 132 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and you're living the good lies in your fancy luxury 133 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: high rise in Hollywood. Okay, So no, you do not 134 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: have your gun hidden in your engine block. Even my 135 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: redneck thug days back in Georgia, I never hit my 136 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: gun in the engine block. I used to wear them 137 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: maybe on a holster, in the leg or in the 138 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: small amount. That's just so you okay, Well, yeah, so 139 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Nandez hides his gun, his engine block and Bradley 140 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: describes him taking it out. They pull up beside the victims. 141 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: The testimony is he took pleasure in what he did 142 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: that night. The lead prosecutor said he wanted his victims 143 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: to see it coming. They were in her nandez vehicle. 144 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: It was her Nandez's gun, and Bradley says that he 145 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: reached out and shot. It was essentially a drive by. 146 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: They were actually on the street and pulled up alongside 147 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: the car, then out. In a February night two thousand thirteen, 148 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: Hernandez then shoots Bradley between the eyes and leaves him 149 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: in a parking lot to die. Bradley testified he survived, 150 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: and he lost his right eye. With friends like that, 151 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: who needs enemies, And of course it came back to 152 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: haunt Hernandez at least somewhat because of course Alexander Bradley 153 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: then testified against his former friend. Now, so we've got 154 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: him dead and the rights on killing Odin Lloyd. She 155 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: taking him out and shooting him dead. Okay, now you've 156 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: got Bradley. He shot Bradley in the face and he 157 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: lost his eye after a night drinking at a club. 158 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: So is there any reason I should not believe he 159 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: shot the last two people after drinking at a club. 160 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason. But there's this lawyer, 161 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: you know well, Jose Bias, who was able to convince 162 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: a jury in Boston that the prosecution hadn't proven that 163 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: he shot them beyond a reasonable doubt. The main way 164 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: he did that was his cross examination of Alexander Bradley. 165 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: They also prosecutors also point to her Nana as his 166 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: tattoos as confessions because one of his tattoos was a 167 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: gun similar to the murder weapon with exactly five bullets. 168 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: That's the same number as we're used in the two 169 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: thousand twelve shootings. He got a tattoo of an Alan. 170 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: He got a tattoo. It occurs to me the anthropologist 171 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: in the future, if they dig up Hernandez crypt in 172 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: his grave and look at the he's got a roadmap 173 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: to all of his crimes on his body, down to 174 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: the forehead where he wrote John three. You know what's amazing. 175 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: It just reminds me so much of my days prosecuting Alan. 176 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I mean, I was shocked when 177 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: I heard her Nandez had committed suicide. Ironically on the 178 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: day his team was meeting the President in the White 179 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: House for winning the Super Bowl. And I guess it 180 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: reminded me of all the years I prosecuted, because yes, 181 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: I hated what the defendants did, and some of them 182 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 1: I hated, But like Hernandez, when I think of him, 183 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: that sixteen year old boy who loved his dad and 184 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: who was being steered by his dad, and now his 185 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: life just went to thuggery after his father passed away, 186 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I look at so many lives that could have been 187 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: so awesome and what crime has done to them, not 188 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: just the victims, but the defendants too. And now I'm 189 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: not going soft. I'm just being honest about this. It's 190 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: just well, that little girl, that four year old little 191 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: child in a courtroom recently, she was there. I guess 192 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: that's the only time that Aaron Hernandez really could see 193 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: his daughter, who was born after his arrest, and he 194 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: blew her a kiss in the courtroom. Now that was touching, 195 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: but in the context you got to remember, it's also 196 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of bizarre. You know another thing, Alan, I think 197 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: her Nandez is responsible for more murders I do, and 198 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: I think they were all alcohol fueled anger related I 199 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: just don't think he could control his rage. And I 200 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: just see such a horrible scenario, the way it played out, 201 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: of someone that was potentially so great taking a road 202 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: of crime that left a wake of pain behind him. 203 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: He can't possibly fathom. I mean, I know there's Odin 204 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Lloyd dead, these two men that he just happened to 205 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: me in a nightclub dead. I know what the jury said. 206 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: I disagree. Bradley shot in the face, he's lost in 207 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: the use of an eye. And now Hernandez commits suicide. 208 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: Just all the people that he hurt, that's his legacy. 209 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: But he could have been so great, you know, It's 210 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: just it's just sad the whole, all the way around. 211 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: It's sad for the victims families, and it's sad for 212 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: his family. The girl that will never have a father, 213 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: his own father that would have been so proud of 214 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: him for doing so well in the NFL. I mean, 215 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't get it, Alan, I just I mean, I'm 216 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: not a shrink, I'm just a lawyer. A bit. I 217 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: don't get it. Now, are we supposed to feel sorry 218 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: for him because he put John three sixteen on his forehead? 219 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: I can think of a Bible verse that would have 220 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: been better. Why didn't he put Leviticus seventeen? Nancy, you're 221 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a good methodist. Can you quote that one? I don't 222 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: know what. I'm sure you've got it right in front 223 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: of you right now, and you're totally cheating. No, you 224 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: know it's in just it's in my head. Yeah. If 225 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: a man takes the life of any human being, he 226 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: shall surely be put to death. You're totally rating. Okay, 227 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: you're rating. Give me, please, forgive me. But okay, I 228 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: got more. Now you're cheating. I don't think his forehead 229 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: was big enough for all that. No, please save it. 230 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that his forehead was really big enough 231 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: for all that. No, well, just to write Leviticus. Maybe 232 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: he could do it on his on his chest or something. 233 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Leviticus seventeen. As a prosecutor, you should know that one 234 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: isn't Leviticus in the Old Testament? Well, what's wrong with 235 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the Old Testament? Nancy? Are we going to get in 236 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: that methodist read the Old Testament? Well, hold on just 237 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: a minute, there, just a minute. Sometimes the Old Testament 238 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: is a little harsh. Yeah, and so saith Nancy Grace, 239 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Why don't we just get back on the case instead 240 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: of you preaching to me about Leviticus. Just a second, 241 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I gotta get back to Aaron Hernandez. Could I stop 242 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: a second and write a notation in my In my 243 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: diary April nine teen, seventeen, Nancy Gray said, levite is 244 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: a little harsh. Okay, oh, okay, all right, you went 245 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: on this, But I still say, you know, I still 246 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: think it makes me sad to think about how great 247 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: he could have been, and by choosing a life of crime, 248 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: he has caused so much pain and even in the 249 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: end causing pain, causing pain to his family. But the 250 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: thought of being locked away from my children, I don't. 251 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could have stood that. Apparently 252 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: he could, they're growing up. He couldn't. I don't know. 253 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: All I can say is God bless his victims. May 254 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: they all rest in peace. And he's meaning his maker now. 255 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: So that look, I know how to try a chase. Okay. 256 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm gonna leave that to the Lord. Okay, 257 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm out of it. So that's all I can tell you. 258 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: When his trial, the Odin trial was going on, and 259 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: I was watching it very closely and writing about it. 260 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I was in touch with people who actually I had 261 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: a contact inside the jail where he was being held, 262 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: someone who was an inmate there who had just been 263 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: released from the jail in the middle of the trial. 264 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: I know you're working out to a point, Alan, what 265 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: is it? This guy had some things that this is 266 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: this is the human side of Aaron Hernandez. Aaron Hernandez 267 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: wanted to help this guy that had befriended him in jail. 268 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: He wrote out some things like autographs and letters and 269 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: everything to give to that guy so that he could 270 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: then sell them to help his family out. That's what 271 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez did for one of his jail buddies. I 272 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that makes him sympathetic or not. Well, 273 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: it's another side to him. It doesn't erase the murders 274 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: or the pain he's caused, but there is there was 275 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: another side to him. All I know is this is 276 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: a case that has taken one twist after the next. 277 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when I first heard Aaron Hernandez arrested for murder, 278 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: had no idea that there were going to be so 279 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: many murders and so many other cases that were never 280 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: even prosecuted. What do you think about the possibility that 281 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: some people have raised that Aaron Hernandez himself is a 282 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: murder victim, that he didn't kill himself. Does that happen 283 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: in prison? It happens all the time. But given these 284 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: circumstances where he tried he tried to barricade his door. 285 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: I know they're calling for a murder investigation right now 286 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: as to whether he really committed suicide, But given that 287 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: he barricaded his door, I think I don't. I don't 288 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: see a possibility that anyone else could have done it 289 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: but him, But I'm anxious to get the answer. I 290 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: believe this is the end. This is the final chapter 291 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: on Aaron Hernandez. Can we agree on that? Yes, I 292 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: would agree on that that it is now in the 293 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: history books. Okay, then in that case, Nancy Grace with 294 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,