WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Scouting The Packers Offense 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.559 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.480 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.840 ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:25.160 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:31.319 Wait with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.240 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October fourth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.320 episode number fifty. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.879 live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios, and we're here to 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.920 talk some Cowboys football today. We're gonna jump in and 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.600 talk Cowboys versus Packers. That game kicks off this Sunday 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.560 at three thirty Central Time here at AT and T Stadium. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.080 Dave has a scattering report already for us on the 0:00:55.480 --> 0:01:00.240 Packers offense versus the Cowboys defense. How's everybody doing this morning? Good? 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.400 Got Amber back in the building. Welcome back, Amber, Thank you, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.119 thank you, good to have you back. And uh, how 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.000 are you Dave? Good? You ready? Yep? I know last 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:10.960 night you said you were gonna jump right into all 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.200 the tape on the Packers, and I assumed you've watched 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.000 all four of their games and maybe even went back 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.479 to last year and watched a few of the games 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.760 from last year. So what what says Dave after watching 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.080 all this film on the Green Bay Packers? We're just 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.280 gonna get right into it like that. Huh? Why not 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:30.360 jump in? You know what? Says Dave? Who cares? Oh? 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.760 And I don't mean like who cares about the game 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:37.720 or any other who cares what the Packers offense has 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.119 or what they're doing? As long as they have Aaron Rodgers? Right? 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:41.839 How hard is that scot him report? I haven't watched 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.160 him play that much and I know it. And all 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.960 you're gonna say is slings some guy you've never heard of, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:50.120 and he's pretty good. And it literally does not matter. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.160 That's the conclusion that I came to. And that just 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.040 you just took the whole show down. Now everybody's just 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.280 like what what? What? What? Are we even gonna play 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.400 the game? Do you? I'm just gonna I'm gonna illustrate 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.120 my point here, Okay. I actually first I started off 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.239 by going back and I've I looked at every game 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.440 that they've played against the Packers in the last since 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.520 the twenty since the Dez catch, game. I'd left out 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.160 the twenty thirteen game because Rogers didn't start. Okay, they 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.680 still lost, but Rogers didn't start. So in those games 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.760 twenty fourteen playoffs, Eddie Lacey was your leading rusher with 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.440 one hundred yards. Davante Adams and Randall Cobb were you're 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.600 leading receivers. The next year, Eddie Lacy had another good day. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.160 James Starks also ran for seventy one yards and a touchdown. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.480 The Packers ran for two hundred and thirty that day. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.840 Randall Cobb and James Jones were your receivers of choice. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.919 Last year in the regular season, it was Lacey again. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.120 Jordy Nelson was there, Randall Cobb, Tie Montgomery was your 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:56.440 leading receiver. Fast forward three months. Tie Montgomery's you're leading 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.920 rusher because he plays running back now, because they just 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.960 did that because they were out of options. Jared Cook, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.760 you might remember him. He's your leading receiver in that game. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.760 Cobb and Adams had decent days, nothing to get super 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.800 excited about. So I guess the point I'm trying to 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.720 make there is that it's it's just a mismash of 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.880 whatever they can cobble together. As long as Aaron Rodgers 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.519 is throwing the ball, which he is twenty fourteen sixty 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:28.840 eight percent for three sixteen and three touchdowns. Twenty fifteen 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.079 actually his worst day sixty three two eighteen and two touchdowns, 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:34.760 and that was because they ran for two hundred and 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.040 thirty yards last year in the regular season seventy four 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.360 percent two ninety four a touchdown and a very uncharacteristic 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.440 pick by Barry Church that helped the Cowboys win that game. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.520 And then in the playoffs sixty five percent three fifty five, 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:54.240 two touchdowns and one interception. He's a freak. That's really 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.640 my main concern. And now I will I will flash 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.720 forward to this past game against the Bears. This is 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.480 the Packers starting offensive line when they beat the Bears 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.920 thirty five to seventeen. Lane Taylor, who's a second year 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.640 undrafted free agent who's also a guard that's playing tackle, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:16.400 played left tackle Patrick Lucas, who is an undrafted free 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:20.000 agent in his second year. Played left guard Corey Linsley, 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.400 who's a fifth round pick. He's a pretty solid center. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.159 He was still there. Jarry Evans, who's a four time 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.080 All Pro but is also in his twelfth NFL season 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.760 and has bounced around the league. He's not the guy 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.760 he was with the New Orleans Saints by any stretch. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.920 He's your right guard. And then Justin McCrae, who is 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.919 an undrafted free agent who's bounced around the league and 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.800 played in the Arena Football League, he's your right tackle. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.960 To summarize, there are three players that are undrafted that 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.839 are starting on their offensive line. Your main left tackle, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.280 David Baktiari has been out with a hamstr hamstring injury. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.159 Your main right tackle, Brian Bulaga has been out with 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.760 an ankle injury. We're gonna have to wait and see 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.280 this week if they play or or not. I actually 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.600 I talked to some people who cover the Packers before 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.479 I came on this show to see if they kind 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.960 of had any insight for me, and they were like, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.159 it's it's gonna be wait and see. They've been dinged 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:14.080 up basically for the entire season. But does it matter 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.960 because Aaron Rodgers still led them to thirty five points. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.960 I know it's the Chicago Bears. They're still They're three 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.600 and one playing this way and by the way, they 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.760 are right now ranked twenty ninth in the league and 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.279 sacks allowed with fifteen and despite that, they're still putting 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.200 up the numbers at the bun You sack them, but 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.360 they're still You read in my mind, You read my mind. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.280 Aaron Rodgers was sacked four times by the Seattle Seahawks. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.280 They won that game. He was sacked six times by 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.200 the Cincinnati Bengals. They won that game. He was sacked 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.960 twice by the Bears. They won in a blowout. He 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.120 gets it to Cobb, he gets it to Majority, he 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.160 gets it Tie Montgomery, who is still their running back 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.400 this season. He was their leading receiver in there was 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.880 booked up a little bit to look more like a 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.960 running back. He was well. He was their leading receiver 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.159 against Atlanta, which is the one game that they lost. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.960 So there one loss is on the road against the 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:05.760 reigning NFC champions. It's really frustrating to watch because logic 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.039 says that they shouldn't be any good, Like, I don't 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:14.720 think this is a particularly good team, balented roster type thing, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.680 and there's talent there, but like, you shouldn't be able 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.200 to win in the NFL against the Cincinnati Bengals playing 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.480 four guards on your offensive line. If this doesn't make sense, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.120 But Aaron Rodgers is a freak show. I mean, I 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.200 don't know if you watched this game against the Bears, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.320 but he had. It was very Dak esque where the 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.200 play completely broke down. He bolted left and then came 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.240 back and then ran through the pocket which was collapsing, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.360 and just throws this running prayer fifty eight yards down 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.680 the field to Jordy Nelson who's in between the safeties 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.840 and catches it and does a little shimmy move and 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.839 gets fifteen extra yards. It's just like it's really it's 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.040 demoralizing as if you're if you're somebody who doesn't want 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:02.120 the Packers to win, it's hard to watch. Um. So 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.880 that's where I'm at with that. I really I'm not saying, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.240 and I'm not saying thanks for joining us this week. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.000 I'm not saying you can't beat them, because the Falcons 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.400 did it and the Bengals came awfully close. And that 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.280 was actually the question that I wanted to as you're 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.840 talking about all that, I wanted to get Nick to 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.840 take us back to last season and the Cowboys did 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:27.320 go to Green beat them. Yeah, gotta win. I'm sorry, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:33.280 he's going to me, David, And so it was. But 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.400 I want you to take me back to last season. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.120 Take me back to last season. What did the Cowboys do, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.840 because they were facing a similar type team from the 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.120 standpoint that Rogers was still the catalyst that made everything go. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.960 What did they do to get a win? Well, Rogers 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:48.840 really wasn't very good in that game. I mean, he 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.920 got hot later on in the season and they won 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:53.920 seven in a row and he didn't throw an interception 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.040 until Jeff Heath came along. But hey, they had a 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.720 lot of problems in that game getting it blocked. David 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.760 Irving had a decent game from he played nineteen snaps. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.040 Now he did was the NFC Player of the Week 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.440 with three forced fumbles, but he wasn't the only guy 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.640 out there. He was playing half the snaps They got 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.080 after him. Really well, the weather wasn't that great, so 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:15.800 it wasn't one of those where he could sling it 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.400 around a lot. I think, if I remember, his receivers 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.960 had a few drops in the game and so and 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.800 the Cowboys set the tone early by jumping up on 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.320 him and kind of you know that they had control 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:28.960 of that game for the most part. I had a 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.480 couple of big plays right before halftime with Lucky Whitehead 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.720 if I remember, But I just think that the Cowboys 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.040 were just completely better on both sides of the ball. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.800 They could not stop Beasley. And I think for the 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.319 most part, when it comes to Rogers, he was off. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.600 He was not the Rodgers that we had seen before 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.280 and then that we saw later in the season. But 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.719 that and I think he kind of fooled a lot 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.640 of people by thinking, well, you know, they kind of 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.200 had his number. But but he was a different quarterback 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.280 down the stretch at the season, but that game was not. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.320 He was not in his Aaron Rodgers esque type game. Dave, 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.640 you talk about what's how how this doesn't when you 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.280 watch this team, you're like, how are they winning? When 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.120 you look at the offensive line. Another thing that's very 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.960 uncharacteristic in today's NFL for a really good team is 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.440 that they didn't even try to run the ball for 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.880 the most part. I mean, right now, they are twit. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.240 I think they're averaging like twenty rushes per game and 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.000 like forty passes per game. Like they're throwing the ball 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.760 at a at a much higher clip than they're running 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.440 the ball. And that doesn't mean that when they run 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.040 they aren't getting a little bit here and there to 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.559 kind of keep teams honest. But by and large, when 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.640 you look at it from that standpoint, they are a 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.360 throwing team and running is something that they do just 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:39.240 has a secondary type, almost like an afterthought. I don't 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:43.640 completely agree with that because, um who was for instance, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.400 and I know David Johnson's hurt, but the Packers look 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.640 like a better running team than the Arizona Cardinals did, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.320 Like I mean, I don't don't. Yeah, but that's also 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.760 because David Johnson's not there, And if David Johnson were there, 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.120 they would be running a lot more and a lot 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.760 more effectively, right, I mean in their last two games. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.720 I know, I know it's the Bears, but I mean 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.040 they've leaned on the run. In that game they ran 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.120 for one hundred yards As a team that their average 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.720 isn't great, and and it's not anything impressive. I mean 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.920 a wide receivers, they're leading running back. They've got two 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:15.680 draft picks, Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones behind him. It's 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.960 not impressive. It's not the Cowboys by any stretch of 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.160 the imagination, but I still think it's it's part of 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.560 their offense. They're actually much like the Cowboys. Really even 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.880 more so than the Cowboys. They're a rare NFL team 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.200 that uses a fullback. They drafted Aaron Ripkowski. That's the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.199 funny thing when you watch these guys, is you go 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.240 into the You're like, well, it's Aaron Rodgers and the 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.520 Packers they're five. They're four or five wide every time. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.679 That's not really true. Like they run a lot of 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.959 twenty one personnel. Ripkowski's in there all the time as 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.760 a blocker and receiver. They have Martellis Bennett, Lance Kendricks, 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.599 Richard Rodgers. Their tight ends have been there forever or 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.200 Rodgers has. I mean there's usually one or two on 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.960 the field. So like you see a lot of that 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.719 type of traditional personnel from these guys. Yes, but they 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.760 throw out of it a less. They do because even 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.600 the running back, I mean, you look at at at 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.080 um at at Montgomery, he's the he has the second 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.440 most catches on the team. Like, they still throw a 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.600 lot to the running back. I'm not I'm not trying 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.040 to convince you that this is a ground and pound offense. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.240 I just it's I think it's a mistake to assume 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.240 that they're throwing the ball sixty times a game, and 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.280 I will say this their worst their worst performance of 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.120 the year was in Atlanta where they got behind and 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.880 the running game really was not and was an afterthought. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.120 I think they ran for forty total yards as a 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.160 team that day, and all of their good performances, they've 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.240 at least gotten up near one hundred yards as a team, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.360 if not more. So, what did Atlanta do to to 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.120 put them in that situation? Uh? I actually so I 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.760 watched You know again, I don't watch. I did not 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.439 go back to last season and watched their games. I 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.280 didn't do it. If no, I don't even well I saw, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.959 I saw Brian was I watched that with Brian yesterday? 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.560 Actually I did. Um So, I watched the Bears game, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.480 and I was like this, this really isn't indicative because 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.480 the Bears are terrible. I need to see more than this. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.000 So I went back and watched the Falcons game. First 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.000 of all, I think to beat the Packers you got 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.240 to have an explosive offense like the Falcons that can 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:11.160 score points. And I think you've got to have a 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.760 good pass rush, because we just talked about this Packers 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.360 offensive line. They're not good. Fifteen sacks in four games. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.679 They got to him four times in that game on 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.560 top of that, so they were able to force three 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:29.760 Packer punts in that first half, and then they got 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.720 points on three of their own four drives in that sequence. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.600 So they're up seventeen to seven, and then Rogers throws 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.599 a pick on the last possession of the half that 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.640 sets them up to take a twenty four to seven lead. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.000 And then on the first play of the third quarter, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.880 they strip sack him and return it for a touchdown, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.640 and they're up thirty one to seven. And they still 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.120 only won thirty four to twenty three. So even with 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.040 a twenty four point lead in the second half, I 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.680 don't want to say they had to hold on for 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.840 dear life, because they still won by nine points. But 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.280 it's not like the Packers just rolled over. I mean, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.200 as long as they have Rogers, they have a chance, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.640 so you gotta sack them. I really, I'll be surprised 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.160 if the Cowboys win this game without winning the turnover battle. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.200 So with that being said, and talking about explosive offense, Amber, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.360 how comfortable do you feel knowing what the Cowboys have 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.400 done offensively, some of the struggles that they've had at 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.760 moments looking good. I think at first half this last 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.559 game they look good on offense. How comfortable do you 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.199 feel that they have the kind of explosive offense, especially 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.000 in the first half, that that can get them to 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.040 kind of lead possibly that they would need in order 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.520 to maybe use that blueprint again, I think we've seen 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.200 what they are capable of doing. I just think they 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.520 need to keep that going, be more consistent again, mix 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.000 it up a little bit, don't be forcing it like 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.120 we keep saying it, don't be forcing it two does, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.000 and just keep try to get those guys more involved, 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.920 like Jason Witten and Cole Beasley. I'm going through a 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.800 lot of the comment on Twitter, and I know we'll 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.560 get into is into this later on, but after you 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:10.400 said all your stats on Aaron Rodgers, everyone's pretty concerned 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.240 about this game. So based on what the Cowboys have 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:19.520 right now, how could they stop the Packers offensively? Well, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.280 everyone's concerned if there is a is there hope here? 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.120 What's the spread? The Cowboys are favored by two? Is 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:31.280 that right? Really? Yeah? Wow? Honestly I don't think that's crazy, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.800 and I'll and my answer, I'm just surprised that that 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.600 would be the way that it goes based upon the 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.960 Cowboys last week and the Packers being with Aaron Rodgers right, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.000 just the whole thing shapes up weird. But the Packers 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.600 have played one home a road game. That was the 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.040 Atlanta game that you were talking about. So not that 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.040 they haven't proven they could go in and win against 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.880 you know, you know in Arlington, but still you know, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.040 home game Cowboys. If I guess, I don't know, they 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.760 didn't play Yeah, after saying them playing against the Rams 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.880 and then but see, I think I think maybe they're 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.920 factoring in. I mean, Cowboys are going to get some 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.080 players back here on defense this week or they're hoping 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.560 to it. I have a feeling I said the same 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.320 thing leading into the playoff game last year. Numbers two 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.080 to fifty three. I'll take the Cowboys roster every single time. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.240 It just so happens that number one is a big, big, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.720 big difference maker. Would you take number one over two 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.640 and three for the Cowboys? Yes, I don't even know 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.200 who that is. I don't either, but I'll tell you 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.520 if it means I have Aaron Rodgers, I want that ums. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.480 I don't know who the Cowboys. So to answer your question, Amber, 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:45.440 Um give the fansom hope? How can how can they Packers? 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.720 If I sounded doom and gloom, I'm sorry, I really don't. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.360 It's not like this is an insurmountable task. It's just 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.640 it's frustrating to watch this team because logic says they 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.120 shouldn't be any good, and yet here they are. Um, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.360 if there's I'm watching the injury report this week. I 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.040 don't root for injuries. I don't. I always want players 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.280 to be healthy. But man, it would be nice for 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.200 the Cowboys if David Baktiar and Brian Bulaga didn't play 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.920 in this game, because I know they weren't as good 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.000 last week against the Rams. But this pass rush has 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.280 shown a lot of promise in this first month of 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.720 the season, and I gotta believe to Marcus Lawrence and 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:26.360 these guys can get the better of four guards, three 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.600 of whom weren't drafted, who were starting on this offensive line. Well, 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.080 but I mean it's just that that's a huge difference. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.360 And like I said, I mean, you can get to him. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.880 The Seahawks did it four times. The Packers only won 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.040 that game seventeen to nine. It's not like they were 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.360 just you know, throwing the ball all over the park 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.320 that day. The Bengals got to him six times that 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.000 game had to go to overtime, and then even Chicago 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.320 got to him twice. So I gotta believe the Cowboys 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.200 can put put him on the ground at two or 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.240 three times. I know he gets the ball out really quickly, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.600 just like Eli Manning. But that offensive line, the Cowboy 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.880 I can't believe I'm saying this. The Cowboys edge as 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.800 a defensive line against this offensive line, I think is 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.160 their best hope for success. Isn't that not crazy? Looking 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:11.600 where we are? I mean it all it takes us 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.960 a few weeks and everything changes, right. It's amazing that 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.280 Aaron Rodgers is playing his thirteenth year. This is third. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.399 Doesn't seem like that now. I mean, I understand that 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.359 he didn't he didn't play his first couple. In fact, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.400 his first game that he really really played a lot 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.600 was against the Cowboys in two thousand and seven. That 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.239 will be a feature and throwback Thursday this week. But 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.240 they hurt Brett Farve, knocked him out of the game 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.960 and thought, wow, got him. And then here comes Aaron 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.520 Rodgers and he showed right then that he was pretty 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.600 good too. But it's just it's it's surprising. Do you 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.720 know what his record is against the Cowboys in regular season? 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.440 Three and three? Yeah, look that up. Oh you just guessed, 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.479 Oh you just guess the number that you just know 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.640 fer to the two thousand and ten game that got 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:06.000 Aid fired twenty fifteen, I'm missing a win and then 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.240 he lost in twenty sixteen. That's honestly surprising to me. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.520 I thought he okay in the regular season eight. I 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.440 mean they've they've played him okay in regular season. It's yeah, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.400 it's the postseason. He's doing a hillo for the Cowboys 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.200 because in both games, there were these moments that you'll 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.400 forever remember, right, each one of them had a moment 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.879 you'll forever remember that was unlikely. I'm glad kind of 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.160 you have to deal with. I'm glad you brought that up. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.760 I assume one of those two things you're referring to 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.359 as the Jared Cook play. Yes, Um, this is a 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.160 big game for David Irving to be back, and it's 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.720 a game where I think MALIEK. Collins needs to show 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.800 up too, because all right, we know Lawrence is having 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.359 a great season. They can't just pressure him. They had 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.480 like that. I was talking about that with Brian this morning, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.600 Like you gotta pressure him and like collapse this whole 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.480 thing around him. You gotta make him give up on 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.200 the play. Run. Not only can he run like he 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.119 wants to stend the play, That's what he wants to 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.359 do because he can do stuff like that when he 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.800 has a chance. It doesn't matter if he's running for 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.480 his life because he can throw a forty yard rope 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.280 to Jared Cook. He's on the run. Ye Romo called 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.920 it in the Bears game this last Thursday. He was like, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.000 if his first read's not there, he's going to extend 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.480 the play. And once he extends the play, it all changes. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.240 And that's exactly what happened. And he went stepped up 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.920 and then broke right and just had an easy throw too. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.800 I think it was Jordy Nelson or it is frustrating 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:31.880 when you watching it isn't opposed. That's what I'm talking. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.960 I mean, like I said it, really getting pressure on 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.200 him is not enough because like eighty five percent of 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.200 the quarterbacks in the league are just going to throw 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.800 the ball away or live to fight another day, but 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.719 not him, Like you have to get a lot of 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.600 pressure and contain him to the point where he just 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.720 gives up on the play. Otherwise he's always going to 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.120 have a chance to hurt you. All Right, We're gonna 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.520 take our first break. When we come back, I want 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.359 to talk a little bit more about this defensive front, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.040 particularly to Marcus Lawrence, and how he's going to probably 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.160 be getting a lot more to here in the next 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.159 several weeks and maybe, if not for the rest of 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.600 the season. And I'll ask you guys the question, who's 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.919 the guy that you expect this week can be the 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.159 person that takes advantage of the added attention that goes 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:11.480 to the Marcus large. We'll do that when we come 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.439 right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. We 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.400 the entertainment loving people demand the best unlimited wireless plan 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.760