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Speaker 1: Wait with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October fourth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number fifty. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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Speaker 1: live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios, and we're here to

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Speaker 1: talk some Cowboys football today. We're gonna jump in and

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Speaker 1: talk Cowboys versus Packers. That game kicks off this Sunday

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Speaker 1: at three thirty Central Time here at AT and T Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Dave has a scattering report already for us on the

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Speaker 1: Got Amber back in the building. Welcome back, Amber, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, good to have you back. And uh, how

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Speaker 1: are you Dave? Good? You ready? Yep? I know last

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Speaker 1: night you said you were gonna jump right into all

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Speaker 1: to last year and watched a few of the games

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Speaker 1: from last year. So what what says Dave after watching

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Speaker 1: all this film on the Green Bay Packers? We're just

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Speaker 1: gonna get right into it like that. Huh? Why not

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Speaker 1: jump in? You know what? Says Dave? Who cares? Oh?

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean like who cares about the game

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Speaker 1: or what they're doing? As long as they have Aaron Rodgers? Right?

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Speaker 1: How hard is that scot him report? I haven't watched

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Speaker 1: him play that much and I know it. And all

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Speaker 1: and he's pretty good. And it literally does not matter.

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Speaker 1: That's the conclusion that I came to. And that just

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Speaker 1: like what what? What? What? Are we even gonna play

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Speaker 1: the game? Do you? I'm just gonna I'm gonna illustrate

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Speaker 1: my point here, Okay. I actually first I started off

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Speaker 1: the twenty thirteen game because Rogers didn't start. Okay, they

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Speaker 1: still lost, but Rogers didn't start. So in those games

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen playoffs, Eddie Lacey was your leading rusher with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was sacked four times by the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Take me back to last season. What did the Cowboys do,

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Speaker 1: I hear all this talk about what it takes to

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Speaker 1: the second segment of the Brake Block from the s

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're talking about Cowboys

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Speaker 1: versus Packers. Dave did an effective job of scaring all

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Speaker 1: your fans out there and making you think that this

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Speaker 1: is an impossible task for the Cowboys. But if you're

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Speaker 1: an NFL fan, you've watched enough of everybody to be

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Speaker 1: scared without me having to tell you, yeah, you just

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Speaker 1: reinforced it. You just brought it all back up to it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you got a point there. I do

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Speaker 1: want to say, this is something I forget. I kind

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Speaker 1: of left out. I mentioned the tack he left something.

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Speaker 1: Hell no, well, this could work in the Cowboys favor.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the tackles. That's gonna bear watching. Tie Montgomery

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Speaker 1: broke his ribs in or a rib in that game

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Speaker 1: against the Bears. He says he's gonna try to play,

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Speaker 1: which more power to you, dude. Um. Davante Adams, one

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Speaker 1: of the took one of the nastiest hits I've seen

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Speaker 1: in a long time, to the point where I was

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Speaker 1: worried about his well being, very seriously so. When he

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Speaker 1: left that game against the Bears. He's gonna try to

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Speaker 1: play too, which is also amazing to me. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if they do. Um. Jamal Williams, their backup running back,

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Speaker 1: also got hurt. He's kind of he's questionable slash probable

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Speaker 1: as well. So all that stuff bears watching heading into

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Speaker 1: this game. Again, I don't know that it really matters

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Speaker 1: if Davante Adams can't play because you still have Jordy Nelson,

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Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, and Geronimo Allison. But something to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be and Martellis and I think that's something worth

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Speaker 1: noting too. There's a tight end there that he is

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Speaker 1: a guy that has the ability to get down field

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Speaker 1: a time really has kind of been an afterthought for

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Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, but I kind of expected that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a it's a new team, and he's coming into

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Speaker 1: kind of a core that has receivers that are very

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Speaker 1: well known to the quarterback and he's comfortable with. So

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Speaker 1: he's going to be the kind of guy that's gonna

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Speaker 1: make those frustrating catches for you when you got everybody

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Speaker 1: else covered being Oh wow, yeah, it's been it's still open.

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Speaker 1: His best, his best game of the season was his

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Speaker 1: most recent game. So maybe he's what I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: is that he's gonna get to talk this week in

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Speaker 1: the media and say something about Whitton and Witten's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to respond to it. Maybe maybe not, maybe not,

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I mean we've done this like eight

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Speaker 1: times now. I mean he's gone to other teams and

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Speaker 1: played the Cowboys before. But he'll say something about he

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Speaker 1: didn't like Witton or but you know how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is because he'll be asked the question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it all start because the media's gonna look at and say,

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Speaker 1: here's a juicy line. Hey, martell Us, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about playing the Cowboys? And what do you think

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Speaker 1: about Jason Witten? And like, and then it comes all

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Speaker 1: back up over again because he's answering the question. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the answers it. Honestly, he does. Yeah, the last half

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Speaker 1: of his name is true. He'll tell us. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he'll definitely tell us what's what's happening. He will go ahead, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Packers media will be so concerned with all

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Speaker 1: the injuries that team is facing that they'll that'll kind

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Speaker 1: of get brushed under the rug. The question is do

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Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys media will well the opposing conference

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Speaker 1: call with the Dallas media who it's Rogers, so will

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Speaker 1: be after the game when the first time the Dallas

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Speaker 1: media will have access to him. Yeah, but the national guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure will maybe reach out to martell Us just

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Speaker 1: to get a nice juicy he'll say something this week.

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Speaker 1: I mean he will, and he'll give him a juicy line.

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Speaker 1: And Jason will be asked about it too, you know,

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Speaker 1: back here. Just but you know, he's not the only

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Speaker 1: guy that's ever you know, the drafted that didn't get

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Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, when you play fifteen straight

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Speaker 1: seasons and never miss a game, but you know, after

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Speaker 1: ends out there that kind of think they should be playing.

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Speaker 1: So he's the only one in the league still right

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Speaker 1: as far as I know, I don't believe John Phillips

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Speaker 1: is in the league. I don't know. I think the

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Speaker 1: Signo is still in the league. I'm not positive about

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Speaker 1: Gavin Escovar is not not no um. But but you

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Speaker 1: look at this and he's just one more receiving threat

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Speaker 1: for them. Looking at all the receivers that you've talked

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Speaker 1: about Dave. Did the Cowboys have enough defensive backs he

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Speaker 1: can like to cover these guys? Think about the injuries

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. How many guys are

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Speaker 1: you expecting back this week? And it's this going to

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Speaker 1: be a game where you really think that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: can match up? Well, they've definitely drafted enough guys and

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Speaker 1: they have the guys in the building. Are they going

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Speaker 1: to be healthy enough to be able to match up

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Speaker 1: with the Packers? I think so, because again, they have

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Speaker 1: weapons for sure. I'm not trying to downplay that, but

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Speaker 1: I guess that kind of goes back to my point

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Speaker 1: from earlier is like these guys aren't just in an

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Speaker 1: empty formation fifty times a game. You know, they have

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Speaker 1: their two Nelson and Cobb that they really like, and

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Speaker 1: then Davante Adams is there, he might not play. You

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Speaker 1: have Geronimo Allison backing them up. So I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's it's not that it's unusual. I feel like to

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Speaker 1: see more than three out there, So like you have

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Speaker 1: the numbers to do it, obviously, numbers versus actually being

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Speaker 1: capable of doing it. Two different stories. But you got

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, you got Orlando Scandrick you got Anthony Brown,

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Speaker 1: Your safeties are healthy. Shit. Abe Woozier is the big

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Speaker 1: question mark there, but I think there's optimism that he

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Speaker 1: can get himself ready this week. And then as of

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Speaker 1: right now, you still have benab and Wickery. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with that as the week goes.

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Speaker 1: He might be released to make room for David Irving. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have the numbers. It's just, you know, matter of

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Speaker 1: match up with him, especially against a quarterback who's really

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Speaker 1: good at extending plays. That's the thing that worries me.

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Speaker 1: What's your level of concerned after watching Todd Gurley do

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Speaker 1: what he did last week in the passing game and

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Speaker 1: now facing a team with Montgomery. Let's assume the plays

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Speaker 1: right now, he's a second, he has a second most

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Speaker 1: catches on that team being the Cowboys. Being able to

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Speaker 1: effectively cover a running back coming out of the backfield

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Speaker 1: catching passes, I think it's a little bit different when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a running back that runs the ball first.

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Speaker 1: That's what he does. Gurley hurts you running the football.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're worried about more than anything. I don't

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Speaker 1: think then once he's at back there and then he

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Speaker 1: becomes a threat because he can do other things. If

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Speaker 1: you're not a legitimate threat to run the ball, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it to be as much of a

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Speaker 1: problem because that's not the first priority for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys is to stop the run, and so when

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Speaker 1: they've when they've established they can stop the run, even

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Speaker 1: having a running back out of the backfield, that that

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Speaker 1: does lines up in other areas. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: it's I'm not saying he can't hurt you, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying Gurley, I think his effect and the same

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Speaker 1: with Zeke when he catch the ball, it's because you

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Speaker 1: have to worry about them running the football. That's what

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Speaker 1: they do. They're running backs. Then when they when you

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Speaker 1: think you've got that cover, they sneak out there. But

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Speaker 1: if if Montgomery's out there and you're not as concerned

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Speaker 1: with him running it, I don't I wouldn't be as

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Speaker 1: concerned by that, you know what. Going back to that

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Speaker 1: game to the Rams, I thought, and I have mixed

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Speaker 1: feelings about this defense just overall, like on moments they

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Speaker 1: give me a little bit of hope and then next

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Speaker 1: thing you know, he's like, oh my God, are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? But um, for example, last game, they did

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Speaker 1: a pretty good job stopping Girly at least during the

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Speaker 1: first half. Then in the second half when they weren't

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Speaker 1: able to get help from the offense, just you know,

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Speaker 1: being on the field so much, I feel that's where

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Speaker 1: they begin struggling, you know, they started struggling. So for example,

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Speaker 1: for this game against the Packers, I think they can

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Speaker 1: do enough to kind of keep the Cowboys in the game.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna be rate. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: like Dave was saying, Montgomery suffering from his rib injury,

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Speaker 1: which we would hope that even if he plays, we

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Speaker 1: hope that that doesn't become a problem for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And even then, again, the Packers their strongest asset is

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the passing game. So just overall my feeling

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Speaker 1: for these defense going against the Packers, I think they

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Speaker 1: can do enough to keep the Cowboys going, but they

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Speaker 1: won't win if the offense doesn't get you know, doesn't

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Speaker 1: help them and start scoring points. Montgomery gives me pause

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Speaker 1: because of his receiving background and his ability to get

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Speaker 1: out in space, but if that's all he can do,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me as much. And I mean that

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Speaker 1: is and I was the one that was just defending

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Speaker 1: the Packers running game. But I have to give the

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Speaker 1: Dallas defensive line the edge in this matchup, especially if

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Speaker 1: you know to a your four are not out there

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Speaker 1: for the Packers your tackles, and then I am assuming

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee plays in this game, which that would make

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Speaker 1: your run defense that much better. So if Montgomery's contributing

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Speaker 1: to the passing game, that's great. This is much like

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. This is one of those games. And I

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Speaker 1: think that kind of ties into what Amber is saying

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Speaker 1: is you're not going to shut down Aaron Rodgers. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to shut him down. You prepare for him

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Speaker 1: to throw for a round or more than three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: and you just have to kind of hope for the

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Speaker 1: breaks limit, you know, keep the thirty yard games from

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Speaker 1: becoming sixty yard touchdowns, hopefully force a turnover or two,

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Speaker 1: and hope that your offense is clicking and can keep up.

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Speaker 1: So with all of that in mind, if I'm just

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Speaker 1: assuming Rogers is going to have his day, but if

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Speaker 1: you can shut down the running game and make it

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Speaker 1: more one dimensional, I call that a win. And maybe

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Speaker 1: that's greating on a curve, but I think that's the

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Speaker 1: expectation that you have to have for a defense when

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Speaker 1: you're playing him. Maybe I didn't give I didn't explain

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Speaker 1: the question well enough because I actually am a little

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Speaker 1: bit concerned, And I guess my concern comes from not necessarily. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Montgomery as a rusher. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Montgomery coming out of the backfield. And last week,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that was concerning to me was that

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Speaker 1: Cowboys seem to have an inability to cover Girl. Now,

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Speaker 1: Girl is a different athlete. He's a much better athlete

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Speaker 1: than most of the running backs to Cowboys will face

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Speaker 1: this year. But for a guy that's a trained wide

642
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Speaker 1: receiver that is now playing running back, it does concern

643
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Speaker 1: me him coming out of the backfield. And that's my question.

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Speaker 1: Is I understand if I'm a lot less concerned if

645
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Speaker 1: I get Hitchens and or shun Lee back this week.

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Speaker 1: If I don't, I think I'm very concerned with what

647
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Speaker 1: I saw last weekend with the linebackers that they have

648
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Speaker 1: left being able to cover a guy who is a

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Speaker 1: dept at being able to run routes and catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: I thought I did answer your question. That's a very

651
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Speaker 1: real concern, especially if at least one of those linebackers

652
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Speaker 1: isn't back. But if he's one dimensional to the point

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Speaker 1: where you know you have to account for that, you

654
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Speaker 1: can put a defensive back out there to deal with

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Speaker 1: him or to follow him, and you're not worried about

656
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Speaker 1: him just gashing your defense as a running back. But

657
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: they've been I know what you said about the running game.

658
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Speaker 1: They've been one dimensional. They are averaging forty passes a

659
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Speaker 1: game and averaging twenty rushes a game. They are they

660
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Speaker 1: are the definition of a one dimensional team, and they're

661
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Speaker 1: okay with that offensive and time. That's how they run

662
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Speaker 1: and the time. Mongomery hasn't been killing any I mean,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been killing people. Like I said. He was

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Speaker 1: their leading receiver in Atlanta. He had six catches for

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Speaker 1: seventy five yards. They lost that game by two possessions.

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Speaker 1: I he's not tied Gurley in the sense that And

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Speaker 1: I guess what I mean is as long as he's

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Speaker 1: not ripping off five yards per carry and being multi

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Speaker 1: gonna do or where he's going when the play starts.

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Speaker 1: I think they can handle that. You know, if Julio

672
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Speaker 1: Jones lines up in the backfield, a linebacker is not

673
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Speaker 1: just gonna say, well, he's a running back, I'm gonna

674
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Speaker 1: take him. I mean, I think you still treat him

675
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Speaker 1: like a receiver. And I would think the Cowboys still,

676
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: like Dave said, treat Montgomery like a wide receiver. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, if he starts running the ball on third

678
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Speaker 1: and one and plowing over your defensive ends, okay, then

679
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: that's a little different. But he's kept eighty eight for

680
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Speaker 1: a reason. I think he is primarily a receiver, and

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Speaker 1: I think when he's back there, I think that they

682
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Speaker 1: need to treat him that way. Safeties, So when you

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Speaker 1: say that, do you think that maybe Cowboys, even when

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Speaker 1: they're presenting, like you said, a twenty one package, would

685
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Speaker 1: you think maybe they stick with a nickel maybe because

686
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Speaker 1: you want that extra guy, because you think that running

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Speaker 1: backs more of a wide receiver than a running back.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. I think you have

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Speaker 1: to do that. I think you have to play more

690
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Speaker 1: that way than than you would just a lot of

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: base defense, or especially short yardage defense. I would play

692
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: this whole game in nickel or maybe even dime, no

693
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Speaker 1: matter what they go to for the most part, because

694
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Speaker 1: you know that they like to throw the ball. I

695
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: mean like they like to throw the ball way more

696
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: they like to run it. Maybe not, I'm dime is

697
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: a little extreme, but I would I would like yeah,

698
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Speaker 1: I would like to think that your nickel defense can

699
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: still not get embarrassed by this running game if Sean

700
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: Lee's out there and can help clean this stuff up.

701
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: And again, if they're starting two tackles or not playing

702
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: in this game, if the defensive line can't hold it,

703
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: don't hold its own, then they've got big problems. So

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get to some questions. You guys give

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709
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Speaker 1: with miss Amber. We know that David Irving is back,

710
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Speaker 1: and he talked of all during his time off or

711
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Speaker 1: during time off but suspension. He's been working out, playing

712
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Speaker 1: video games, eating, taking naps. So one of the questions here,

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Speaker 1: a few of the questions are the same. Yeah, he's

714
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Speaker 1: been that's his that was his routine. Okay, so getting

715
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Speaker 1: ready for his comeback. If the Cowboys decided to make

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Speaker 1: him active for this upcoming game, do you guys think

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Speaker 1: that he will be up to speed with his game. Well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't look like he doesn't look like the same

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Speaker 1: guy that he training camp, and I'm sure that that's

720
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: going to happen with That just means he doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like the same person. He looks like he's been off

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Speaker 1: for four weeks a little bit. Really, Yeah, but not

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Speaker 1: to say that he's not going to be effective or

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Speaker 1: can't be effective for you know, limited amount. I'm sure

725
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Speaker 1: he'll play a few snaps. I mean, I don't think

726
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: he will give him fifty sixty snaps, but he'll probably

727
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: take what Taco did or has done or not done,

728
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll take those snaps. So I think he'll

729
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Speaker 1: be effective because he is a big body, and he

730
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Speaker 1: is he's is a tough mismatch because of just his length.

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Speaker 1: So I think if he gets out there and he's

732
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: got something to prove, he'll probably make a little bit

733
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Speaker 1: of a difference. Nothing to earth shattering. I think it

734
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Speaker 1: was you that made the point one. He y all

735
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: made the point yesterday that typically guys coming off to

736
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: suspension don't just wreck shop right away. Greg Hardy did it,

737
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Speaker 1: and but not but no, not many others. Well, Greg Hardy,

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Speaker 1: for all of his faults as a person, was an

739
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Speaker 1: all pro franchise tag caliber And yeah, and David Irving

740
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: is not. Um, I think he'll play, and I don't

741
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Speaker 1: know he'll be out there. I'm not. I'm not counting

742
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Speaker 1: on him to do what he did in Lamb at

743
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Lambeau last year, that's for sure. Yeah, maybe I'm just

744
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: a pessimist. What's the maybe just to let him, what's

745
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: the position that concerned to you guide the most from

746
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and it could be offensively or defensive, cornerback,

747
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: safety whatever. Looking at both of them, Yes, I mean

748
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean both of those positions really

749
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: just because mainly the corners, because you know they're gonna

750
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: have a hard time stopping those receivers anyways. But then,

751
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: just like you're talking about the play extending, you know

752
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: you got the guy, you got Jordy Nelson on twenty

753
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: yards down the field, then he cuts back and you

754
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: know you've got him, And next thing you know, Aaron

755
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: Rodgers is still running around and then he goes back

756
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: the other way and either holding or it's just when

757
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: that play is the coverage has to be extended as well,

758
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: and covered him for two or three seconds as hard

759
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: as five or six is almost impossible. Yeah, the only

760
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: opportunity will yes, I'll say that, the only opportunity we've

761
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: seen to see this defense this year against this caliber

762
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: wide receivers was Denver and those guys. It wasn't that

763
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: they were making that they were making such great throws

764
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Speaker 1: down field. There was one really good when the touchdown throw,

765
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: but there were a whole bunch of throws that were

766
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: just underneath and those cornerbacks just they couldn't make the tackle.

767
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: And you talk about a team like that, that's how

768
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb is. That's Randall Cobb's game. Get the ball

769
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Speaker 1: to him quick, he makes a move and then he

770
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Speaker 1: tries to get more yards. And so I just think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, until they showed me that they can beat that,

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Speaker 1: Until they show me that there that they can manage

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Speaker 1: that kind of wide receiving corps and a quarterback that

774
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Speaker 1: could find the open guy and get it to him quickly,

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Speaker 1: then I'm very concerned. Yeah, I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 1: safety just because, like I said, against an offense like

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Speaker 1: this and a quarterback like this, you just have to

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Speaker 1: assume that they're going to hit some chunk plays. That's

779
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: just how it happens. You. Just the difference is whether

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00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: you can keep that to eighteen to twenty five yards

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00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: instead of forty eight or fifty yards? Can you hold

782
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: this team to field goals instead of touchdown? Right? Like,

783
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: if you can do that, you could beat this team.

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Speaker 1: But that's a big task, and that girly play just

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00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: keeps playing over and over again in my mind, where

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, that's the last thing they need

787
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Speaker 1: is for Ranald Cobb to catch like a five yard

788
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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: That's what he does, like, that's his game. So that

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00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: has to concern you if you're a Cowboys fan and

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Speaker 1: you're being objective about this, right, yeah, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: what'd you say, Dave, Tommy John's a lot like the

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00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Dallas defensive line in this game? Okay, focus on the sack. Mhm.

853
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: It's a big point of emphasis. Half half of a

854
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: half of a laugh. He didn't That's exactly what I

855
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: just said. But but the Amber was saying something else,

856
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: but I did say the exact same thing. It's okay, okay,

857
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: I didn't get laugh track, so I'm good. I repeated

858
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: what you said. You talked about protecting your franchise player.

859
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if Aaron Rodgers will be warning there's just

860
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: one franchise tag. You don't really have multiple franchise players. Now,

861
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on

862
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: because I don't want to go farther down that road.

863
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get back to some questions. You

864
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: guys call us two on four eighty seven to twenty

865
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: one h two or hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break.

866
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: Let's take a call right now from Jay in New York. Jay,

867
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: what up? Hey, what's going on? I'm all right, Um,

868
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: loved your show. You guys do a very good job

869
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: all the shows throughout. Thank you. Just got a quick

870
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: quick comment about the last game. I know we're on

871
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: to Green Bay now, but about the last game, I

872
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: don't think we gave excuse me, I don't think we

873
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: put enough emphasis on how important Ryan switch as fumble was.

874
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we spoke about it, but I

875
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: think that was a huge part of the game. I mean,

876
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: we had a chance to go into ask time twenty

877
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: four to seven, I mean twenty four to six or

878
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: twenty to six, and he drops the ball. It gives

879
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: the other team a lot more confidence. You know, they

880
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: go into halftime with a completely different speech as opposed

881
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: to you know, the coach trying to rally them, and

882
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: most of the players still not with less confidence than

883
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: They still won't come out right, even though the coach

884
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: wants them to play better. I mean, if they were

885
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: down twenty to six as opposed to I believe it

886
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: was seventeen to thirteen, it's a four point different. A

887
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: coach could just tell them, hey, guys were right here,

888
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: played the horrible half, but we're still right behind them.

889
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: I know we scored before them again, but just like

890
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: in the previous game we had with the Cardinals, when

891
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: they missed that field goal, it changed your whole momentum.

892
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Although we scored, I mean, although the Cardinals I believe

893
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: scored next after the missfield goal, we still won the

894
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: game because the whole the whole momentum was switched. Also,

895
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: my other comment I'm sorry real quick, is that everybody

896
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: wants to say we held them the field goals. But

897
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: to me, seven field goals equals three touchdowns. So if

898
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: you add that to the two touchdowns, that's five touchdowns

899
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: for a game. So I mean, thirty five points to

900
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: thirty five points, it still five touchdowns or two touchdowns

901
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: and seven field goals. That's seven field goals is just

902
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: way too much to equal three touchdowns. All right, I'm

903
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: gonna hang up down and listen to you guys, Thank you,

904
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I guess he's just speaking his

905
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: piece on Switzer thing, because I think on Monday we

906
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: all said, I want to say that when when I

907
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: asked the question what was the play that if you

908
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: could have it back, you'd want back? I think two

909
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: out of three of us or four of us actually

910
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: said that that play was the play that changed the game.

911
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: So I think we all agree on that, including the caller.

912
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that. But they went in a halftime

913
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: with an eight point league after all that said, Yeah,

914
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL teams make runs just like NBA teams,

915
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: Like the game's never over at halftime. The New England

916
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: Patriots proved that in the Super Bowl. So you know

917
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: it's not that I disagree, like that was a huge play.

918
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: That's the play that I would take back. But a

919
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: play that happened with eight minutes left in the second

920
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: quarter can't be the reason why you lost a game,

921
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: so especially when you still had especially when you still

922
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: went in a halftime with the list. I will say

923
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: this about the field goals though, and I actually, fun

924
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: thing is this is the same some of the conversation

925
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: I was having with my wife the other night and

926
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: she was kind of like, this defense, you know, and

927
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the thing about the field goals. Yes,

928
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: that's a lot of fiel those to give up. But

929
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the reality is you got to think about it from

930
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: a standpoint of what how is this defense built, and

931
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: what is their objective? Their objective is to bend, but

932
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: don't give up the touchdown. So we saw this all

933
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: last year, and if the offense is doing what they

934
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: expect the offense to do, this plan for as a

935
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: team works. It's just don't give up the big play,

936
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: don't give up the touchdown. Yeah, you're gonna keep everything

937
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: in front of you, You're gonna let them catch the

938
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: ball sometimes and you're just gonna have to make the tackle.

939
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: But That's how this defense is built to work. It's

940
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: built to be a defense that allows yards, which means

941
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: at times you're gonna give up enough yards for them

942
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: to get down and get a field goal. You're just

943
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: trying to keep them out of the end zone. Where

944
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: did the touchdowns in that game happen? They happened on

945
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: a short field inside the Dallas red zone after a turnover,

946
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: And it happened in the second half after the offense

947
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: had been doing nothing and the defense had been forced

948
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: onto the field too many times in my opinion, And

949
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: maybe I'm letting the defense off the hook, but again,

950
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I just I feel like there's a disconnect where people are.

951
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: You know, people expect this defense to be elite and

952
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: they're mad at anything but and that it's not the case.

953
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: It hasn't been the case, it's not the case this year.

954
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: You're you're working within the framework of what you have,

955
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: and the framework of what you have is a defense

956
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: that's capable of holding opponents to field goals and hopefully

957
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: not a lot else, right, And it's on the offense

958
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: to not put more on them than that. And they

959
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: couldn't do it in the second half last week. And

960
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: I put far more of the blame on the offense

961
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: for putting them in that situation than I put on

962
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: the defense for being what they are, which is essentially

963
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: a middle of the pack group. Yep, yep, I mean, yep, yep,

964
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: yelp exactly right. Three three played three five three five.

965
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: That's what they started out with. I mean, so when

966
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: you don't get any first downs and you punt and

967
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: they get the ball around the forty yard line, holding

968
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: them to a field goal is a win. That's a

969
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: win pretty much. So, I mean, yeah, you're right, it

970
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: is about the offense. The offense did not give them

971
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: those ten twelve play drives, score touchdowns, you know, put

972
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: the pressure back on them and put them back in

973
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: their own starting point at twenty yard line. I don't

974
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: know what the average starting point of the game was,

975
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: but I guarantee the rams, I mean, it was favorable

976
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: for them. This defense looks a whole lot like last year,

977
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: and they get a little they get more sacks, they

978
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: probably haven't gotten as many turnovers to this point, if

979
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: I had to guess, and they've given up more chunk plays.

980
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a different version of the same thing.

981
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: But it's a similar formula. Yeah, that's the point. The

982
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: formula is the same and buying large that's how they

983
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: play defense on that's going to happen when you have

984
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: cornerbacks the way they do. I mean, they've lost a

985
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: lot in their cornerbacks because early in the year they

986
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: had car they had Clayborne, they were playing pretty well.

987
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: And now you've got some rookies and young guys out

988
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: there and a lot of injuries. Yea, And what's the

989
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: difference through four weeks. The offense is not just zipping

990
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: down the field like it's no big deal over and

991
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: over again. Yea. So especially fast starts. If there's a yeah,

992
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: right Amber, if there's a silver lining here, it's I mean,

993
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: I've seen enough from the offense to like, I'm not

994
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm not hopeless, like they can't get to that point.

995
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I think they'll continue to improve and I think they

996
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: can get there, and I think they'll play some easier defenses,

997
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: probably starting this week, even though Aaron Rodgers is on

998
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: the other side. So that's the one reason why, I mean,

999
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: when you look at this, I'm not I'm not so

1000
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: panicked about where the Cowboys are right now. Nobody I

1001
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: do think this defense is doing what it's meant to do,

1002
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: and I just think the offense is gonna have to

1003
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: find its way in Right now, I am thinking that

1004
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: part of that is because they faced, like I said yesterday,

1005
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: in a four week span, they faced the kinds of

1006
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: defense they faced over a season last year that gave

1007
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: them problems throughout the season. They faced those in a

1008
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: four week period this year and you saw the exact

1009
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 1: same things. They haven't improved over that when it comes

1010
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: to playing that kind of defense, and they're gonna have

1011
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: to learn how to do that because that's what you're

1012
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: gonna face in the playoffs. It's funny because you know,

1013
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm about to sound like an old salt and I'm

1014
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: sitting with Nick who's covered this team since the nineties.

1015
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: But like it's almost like people forgot. It's almost it's

1016
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: close to when I was born. Wow, well it makes

1017
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: me feel old. But it's almost like people forgot how

1018
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: the NFL works, because in twenty fifteen, everything sucked, like

1019
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: this team just lost and lost and lost and lost,

1020
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: and you were thinking about the draft by before Christmas.

1021
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: And then last year everything was amazing and they won

1022
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: and won and one and one, And the reality of

1023
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: the NFL is that ninety percent of the teams in

1024
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: the league trade wins and losses, and you have stretches

1025
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: where you're losing games, and like this team hasn't. If

1026
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: they lose to the Packers, it'll be their first losing

1027
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: streak in two years. That's not how That's not the NFL.

1028
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. And I think, and

1029
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about fans, by the way, like

1030
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: there are people in this building where I'm like, will

1031
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: you calm down? Like eight and eight was the norm

1032
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: here for a long time, Like you're you win and

1033
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: lose games in the NFL. The league is designed that way.

1034
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: So it's way too early to be panicking about having

1035
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: a five hundred records. Well, I think the Pennkin came

1036
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: right after losing against a team like the Rams. But

1037
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: a team like the Rams implies that they're a bad team.

1038
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: And I'm stay, I'm not trying to convince anybody that

1039
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: they're the Patriots. But that was not a one in fifty.

1040
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: It's more about losing. How they lost that thing. No,

1041
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: the rawer three, the fact that Patriots, Oh yeah, you're

1042
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: talking about the big bad Patriots. Yeah, I want to Actually, well,

1043
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: the funny thing about the NFL is Patriots fans probably

1044
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: are panicking even though like all the evidence in the

1045
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: world points to them that they shouldn't be, But they

1046
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: probably are because they're not used to that. They're two

1047
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: and two and they stole a win right from Houston. Yeah,

1048
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: that is true. Yeah, because it kind of probably did

1049
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: have won that game. Yeah, and the Saints game was

1050
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: sort of back and forth. Who did they lose too

1051
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: this week? The Patriots, Um, Carolina. Yeah, they lost to Carolina.

1052
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: They beat the Saints pretty bad, Like that was a

1053
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: beat down. But your point is well made, like it

1054
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: hasn't been easy for them all year, and I believe

1055
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: three of their four games have been at home. Yeah,

1056
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: So I no, I mean, that's not that's not a

1057
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: great start, it's the end. Get it turned around. The

1058
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: only team in the league that probably just doesn't feel

1059
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: bad about anything is Kansas City because they hadn't lost

1060
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: the game yet. But the one thing that we also

1061
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: know you talk about the history of the NFL. If

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Speaker 1: you've watched the NFL long enough, you know that what

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Speaker 1: you see in the first four or five weeks of

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Speaker 1: the NFL season is really what you see by the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, teams get on runs. And when

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Speaker 1: they start getting into October November, those teams that are good,

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Speaker 1: they start getting on runs. Regardless of how their first

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Speaker 1: month was, they start getting on runs. And those teams

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Speaker 1: are the teams that are ended at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, and they're so often that the team that's

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL as of Week four

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Speaker 1: is not the best team when you come to the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. So all I'm saying is this

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Speaker 1: is don't panic it. It's not time to panic because

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Speaker 1: you've seen some good things, you've seen some bad things.

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Speaker 1: They just got to clean up the bad things, and

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Speaker 1: if they can, which I believe they can, you'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: It's having said all that, I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. You look at the schedule coming up.

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Speaker 1: Make this agrees. I agree. I don't know. I gonna

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Speaker 1: phase you, man, Just now like I agree, Okay, I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just yeah. I think the way the last two

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Speaker 1: seasons before this have gone, people lose sight of the

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Speaker 1: fact that an NFL season is an up and down

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Speaker 1: and always evolving type of deal. You don't. You don't

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Speaker 1: usually win. You don't usually lose seven games in a row.

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Speaker 1: You also don't usually win eleven games in a row. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's an aberration and you should be happy that you

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Speaker 1: got to experience that. All right, let's get another question

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Speaker 1: for Twitter thoughts on the Cowboys getting Xavier Woods more

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Speaker 1: involved in the rotation and possibly replacing Jeff Heath. That

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Speaker 1: is a popular topic on social media this week. I

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Speaker 1: know you guys probably know I've gotten a lot of

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Speaker 1: tweets about it. I assume you guys have too. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, Jason Garrett

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00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: even said it Monday, and Dave alluded to it. I

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Speaker 1: think yesterday that let's let's see because the question was

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00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: about Xavier Woods, and he said he is playing well.

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Speaker 1: He's playing very well. But as a coach, which you

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Speaker 1: have to figure out what the young players is, you know,

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Speaker 1: you give him a little bit more here and there,

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00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: because does his seventeen eighteen plays are they looking great?

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00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Keddie handle forty forty five And that's the same thing

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00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: with Heath. I mean, Heath kind of built into that

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00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: and right now the jury is still out that he

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00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: can handle the load as being a starting safety, but

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: he's a four. I mean, this is his fifth year,

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00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: and so you kind of think that he can maybe

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00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: figure it out a little bit more than I don't

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Speaker 1: think they want to just throw Woods out there and see.

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Speaker 1: But let's getting to the point where he's deserved more

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Speaker 1: playing time. I don't know if it means as a starter.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing about this isn't quarterback. This isn't

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Speaker 1: like you play or you don't. I mean, you can

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00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: get in there and play a little bit more packages,

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Speaker 1: and I think that he's deserved more playing time and

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Speaker 1: he'll get more, But I don't know if it being

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Speaker 1: a starter. I hate to sound like Mickey Spagnola, but

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Speaker 1: like I feel very I feel very much like I

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Speaker 1: told you so, because all through the summer, I promise

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Speaker 1: you this, all through the summer, I said, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: they're they're probably gonna play three and four safeties, Like

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Speaker 1: Jeff Heath is going to be the guy that gets

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Speaker 1: introduced on the screen at the beginning of the game,

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Speaker 1: but Xavier Woods is going to be in there in

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Speaker 1: certain packages before. And the blue print was there from

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Speaker 1: the beginning that they're gonna need all four of these

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Speaker 1: guys at some point, and Xavier Woods will be out

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Speaker 1: there without Heath from time to time. That's already happened

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Speaker 1: a few times last week. Kind of like Alfred Morrison

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Speaker 1: Zeke like, it seems like they have a series hidden

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Speaker 1: somewhere in there where they put Cavon and Xavier out

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Speaker 1: there without buy Ren order Jeff. That happened against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: so they're gonna keep cycling them in. But like to

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Speaker 1: just think that Jeff Heath is gonna go sit down

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Speaker 1: and never play safety and only play special teams. That

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Speaker 1: is not going to happen. But Woods and Cavon have

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Speaker 1: certainly looked good and they'll get more snaps. I think

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Speaker 1: the thing about Xavier that I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys knew this, and I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams knew this, or he's not gonna last till the

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Speaker 1: sixth round. Sixth round. If teams evaluated him as a

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Speaker 1: guy that could also go down and cover, cover into

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Speaker 1: the slot, he would have been drafted in the second

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Speaker 1: or third round. Not a lot of safeties do that,

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Speaker 1: oh not at all. If he had that kind of

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Speaker 1: skill set any and he does. But if you know

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Speaker 1: and that's the problem with sometimes drafting smaller school guys.

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Speaker 1: I know Louisiana Tech Xavier Woods would be mad at

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Speaker 1: you if you heard you say that. Well, and that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, they are, they are. But

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Speaker 1: what conference is that? Sun Belt Conference, US Conference USA

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Speaker 1: same thing. That's not a bad conference, no it's not.

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Speaker 1: But but you're just not going up out of that program. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not going up against what is not the it's

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Speaker 1: not the Big ten whatever. That wasn't an Seas power

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just I was just asking not

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Speaker 1: it's not a Power five school. And so sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you're playing that position, you're not going to go up

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Speaker 1: against uh if he were to play cornerback. We've seen

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Speaker 1: this one smaller schools. If you play cornerback and you're

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Speaker 1: you're not just gonna go there. You just don't throw

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Speaker 1: to that side. You don't have to because he's the

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Speaker 1: most elite player on defense. That's why you put those

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Speaker 1: kind of guys in the middle of the field at safety,

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Speaker 1: even though they've got skills to play corner they can

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Speaker 1: play safety because you want your best player all around

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field. And I get Pete hunters

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Speaker 1: the ample of that. So I think that's probably what

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Speaker 1: happened with the Davier Woods and now they're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: You know what, He's got pretty good coverage skills as well,

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Speaker 1: but the things that you just didn't see a lot

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Speaker 1: playing and losing at Tech. I was like, I just

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Speaker 1: he's always around the ball. I love that about him, Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I don't know if he's a

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Speaker 1: shut down corner or like the best slot guy on

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Speaker 1: the team, but when he's in there and they get

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Speaker 1: the ball out, he's there, like he just always finds

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Speaker 1: his way around it. He looks like a corner. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not very tall and he's not very big either.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's got a body for a corner butt

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Speaker 1: he's got he's got that awareness and like you said,

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Speaker 1: being around the ball, that's what had instincts. Yep. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing I want to see that turn into

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: some plays, like some big plays, some turnovers. That's what

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00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: they're not getting enough of right now in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: As as I can make some of those kind of

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Speaker 1: big plays, I'm hopeful he came on and we will

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Speaker 1: see from him this week. Though Heath's the one guy

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Speaker 1: that can pick off Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: what no, if you'd have had two in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Woods came on a slot blitz against the Cardinals that

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Speaker 1: if it had been a little bit lower of a throw,

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Speaker 1: he might have a touchdown. Yeah, threw it right to him.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty athletic play because to be running full speed

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Speaker 1: and then jump, that's not a necessarily an easy thing,

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Speaker 1: especially when the balls coming at you fast. So it

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Speaker 1: was That's a pretty nice play for him. All right,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Join us. We are back tomorrow nine

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Speaker 1: thirty am, our normal time. We'll talk about the Packers

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Speaker 1: defense versus the Cowboys offense till then for Nick even, Dave,

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