WEBVTT - How BASE Jumping Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you stuff you should know fromhouse stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry. We are dancing on

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling. Whoa, what a feeling. That song holds up

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I heard it recently. Oh yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't Richie holds up? Man? Yeah, sure, that's the Commodore's

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff, great great stuff. I think like two of

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<v Speaker 1>the most underrated bands of the seventies were earth Wind

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<v Speaker 1>and Fire in the commod Wars, Gareth Wind and Fire

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<v Speaker 1>was underrated. They were super well group underrated as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like today, Like, I don't know, you don't hear

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about that kind of thing. It's all like

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<v Speaker 1>about the big rock bands. Yeah, oh you mean like

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<v Speaker 1>bad Finger and Foreigner and yeah, is that what you mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they weren't underrated. How about this, Two of the

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<v Speaker 1>best bands from the seventies were the Commodores and earth

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<v Speaker 1>Winn and Fire. I agree, Man rated it just perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said well, and I don't mean to be argumentative.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've said that before, Like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>earth Win and Fire is possibly the greatest band that's

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<v Speaker 1>ever been. They're pretty amazing. They are amazing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>different sounds that they took on like it was never

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, we hit it and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>stick with it. They were not like a C d

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<v Speaker 1>C in in other words, and a C d C

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<v Speaker 1>is great. Man, they got their thing, but they figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out from song one and they're still doing it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Simple rock riff played over and over and over. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it works for him. Earth Win and fire Man

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<v Speaker 1>they tried it all. Yeah, and please don't write in

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<v Speaker 1>about the complexity of a C d C. I love

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<v Speaker 1>a C d C. But they will even admit that

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<v Speaker 1>they do one thing well, yeah, which is rock. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blues riff. I used to think they were

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<v Speaker 1>heavy metal when I was a kid, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>funny to think about. Yeah, you know, for seving metal

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<v Speaker 1>it at all? Who was? I always here Black Sabbath,

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<v Speaker 1>but I suspect it goes back before that. Sabbath is

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<v Speaker 1>usually kind of counted as the first, but it's all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of variations of the blues still, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all comes down to the blues. That's right now. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>live here without singing the blues. Can you name that movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Crossroads? You would think, no, it's the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>movie of Crossroads, Adventures in Babysitting. That's the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>a cross road. That's funny. Yeah, I remember that part.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, bass jumping has nothing to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>Blues unless you die, right, unless you're one of the

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<v Speaker 1>base jumping fatality and one of the dudes, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will touch on later wrote on a big base jumper

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<v Speaker 1>wrote an article like like how to Get Started tom Allo,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of his frightening things he says this, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are not ready to die base jumping, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>not ready to basse jump. Yeah. I ran across that

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<v Speaker 1>on a sentiment too, um, like, the dangers are so

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<v Speaker 1>vast that you can anticipate being injured almost certainly at

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<v Speaker 1>some point if you do a lot of base jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's absolutely true. I mean like it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the next step in danger is to just jump

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<v Speaker 1>off a cliff without any parachute at all. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the that's if you, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of people base jump once. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like that was kind of neat, yawn like it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of because it's your like it becomes one of

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<v Speaker 1>your driving forces in your life. Base jumpers are all in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the best way to say it. Um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember kind of like came up in the nineties, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it became a big deal in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I became aware of it. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>way older than that. Well, it's a couple of decades older.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about a decade older than the nineties. It's from

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<v Speaker 1>the late seventies. I guess it's another way to put it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into history, let's at least say what

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<v Speaker 1>base jumping is, because some people might live under a

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<v Speaker 1>rock and they don't know what base jumping is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually an acronym. It is was it stand for uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It stands for buildings, antenna's spans, a K bridges, and

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<v Speaker 1>earth a K cliffs. Buildings are probably quite a rush

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<v Speaker 1>to jump off of, but they're tough to get in

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<v Speaker 1>and you're most certainly doing something illegal. Yeah, you're there's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much not a building in existence you're legally allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to jump off of. No, unless you have a special arrangement.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've lined the mayor's pockets with cash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're doing you know, imagine some of like

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Bull team arranges for a famous jump and

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<v Speaker 1>Red Bull lines the mayor's pockets there you go. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Antennas are super popular, um because they're not as heavily guarded,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still really tall and usually out in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. Right. That's very feeling less risky, um,

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<v Speaker 1>not death, but less for being caught, right and for

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<v Speaker 1>um causing injury to other people, which is a big

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<v Speaker 1>thing with buildings. Yeah. Yeah, antennas. It's like you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>injure a cow that you run into. You know who

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<v Speaker 1>cares uh spans Uh. These are very popular, not only

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<v Speaker 1>because it's fun and gorgeous to leap off of a

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<v Speaker 1>bridge like the New River Gorge Bridge in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing that connects this podcast to bridges, um, but because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it is legal, like the one day of the

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<v Speaker 1>year that they have bridge Day there. Yeah. Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>also one in Idaho where it's legal year round. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>really with that without a permit you can just go

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<v Speaker 1>and jump. There was actually a fatality there, Like guy said,

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<v Speaker 1>his parachute on fire is part of a stunt and

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<v Speaker 1>oh I pulled that article. That was just a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Was it that recent? It was in late May.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the impression it was a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>back or whatever. He said his parachute on fire and died. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's seventy three year old, guys, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unless it was just a version, then it is old.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's new unless it's but yeah, he set his

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<v Speaker 1>parachute on fire with the aim of throwing another parachute out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not a very smart thing. No, his

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<v Speaker 1>his flaming parachute I think continued on without him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess his other parachute. I think he just came

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<v Speaker 1>out of his other parachute. It never deployed. It's on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sad that they don't have that stuff. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that on there's a lot of base,

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<v Speaker 1>base jumping and skydiving deaths on YouTube, tons of well

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<v Speaker 1>you know why, because they all film each other. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the GoPro you know. Um and finally Earth

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<v Speaker 1>and that is when you're jumping off like ilk cappy

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<v Speaker 1>tan or a cliff or a fiord pretty what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like the words out like the list could have

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<v Speaker 1>just kept going indefinitely. You know, I do like the

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<v Speaker 1>word feword though it's a good word. You rarely see

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<v Speaker 1>an F and a J next to each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. You don't get along historically, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you wanna talk about the history. Yeah, I think before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started we should say chuck that, um, no

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<v Speaker 1>one should basse jump. Ever, we certainly aren't saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you should. We're just talking about bass jumping. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>should definitely, um do what we talked about later, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how to get started in bass jumping and follow

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<v Speaker 1>those rules. Get started in bass jumping, think about bass jumping,

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<v Speaker 1>and then don't do it. I think it's super cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can watch those videos all day long, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>not for me. Yea, as far as execution, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say. Also, I ran across a video that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is even scarier than a bass jumping video, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was these two dudes. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>were Ukrainian. They're part of the former so it states, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where their phone. I'm sorry, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just climb stuff. I've seen it, dude, and they climb

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<v Speaker 1>their iPhones are like, look at where we are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like no ropes, no harnesses, no parachute, no nothing. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes me want to vomit. I almost fainted and literally

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<v Speaker 1>almost fainted watching this video. They were climbing the world's

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<v Speaker 1>second tallest but I can't remember what it was called.

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<v Speaker 1>But the um it's in China, and the tops of

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<v Speaker 1>other skyscrapers are hundreds of feet below them. There's cloud

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud line is below them, and they're just standing

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<v Speaker 1>on this antenna connected to nothing. I mean, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>no fear going whatsoever. They're not capable of it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be just completely out of your mind,

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<v Speaker 1>like they're they're like they're broken in some way shape

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do that and not just like

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd probably just be like I just let

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<v Speaker 1>go because I want the terror to be over one

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<v Speaker 1>way or another, you know what I mean. And these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are just like, hey, how's it going? Like giving

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<v Speaker 1>each other five stuff. The whole thing just makes me nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the trailer for the New You know

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<v Speaker 1>they're making a movie about the the the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>did the highware walk between the I did see that

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<v Speaker 1>before Mad Max, which is did you like it? I

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<v Speaker 1>left Mad Max and I was like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go buy all the Mad Max toys now. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see all the sequels are going to make right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just it was a great movie. Well you came

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<v Speaker 1>in wearing the iron face mask. I thought it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I made it myself. Could you tell out of aluminum

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<v Speaker 1>foil and rubber bands? Long story short, which is not true? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>That that trailer for the Robert Zemeckis movie with Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon Levitt Um that made me want to vomit when

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<v Speaker 1>he just he was waiting for it too. Didn't hit

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<v Speaker 1>me like that. Man, Well, it's just a teaser. He

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<v Speaker 1>just basically like walks up to the top and looks

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<v Speaker 1>and says like in his mind I want to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but just stands up on the edge. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take that. And it's based on the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>actually did that in real life for and they made

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary about it, I think back in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>called Man on Wire. It's fantastic Um and a dude

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<v Speaker 1>in the mid seventies who is a high wire artist

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<v Speaker 1>illegally went up to the top of the World Trade

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<v Speaker 1>Center and climbed from one tower to the other on

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<v Speaker 1>a high wire. Great documentary, and uh faith in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's in three D, isn't it? Or

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be I'm sure I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>one though in three D. I saw Tintin in three D.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all right, yeah, I'm letting do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're saying, did you see Mad maxim

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<v Speaker 1>three D? I didn't either. I don't see three D anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. Did you see did you ever see?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? Friday the Thirteenth? Part three came out in

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<v Speaker 1>three D? That was a good one. That was back

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<v Speaker 1>when three D stunk? Yeah, you know, oh yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like things look still kind of blew in

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<v Speaker 1>red at the same time. Yeah, like now it's supposedly good,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't enjoy it. And the cardboard glasses were

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<v Speaker 1>cutting into the bridge of your nose and you were

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding on. Man, we can get sidetracked. Although that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much of a sidetrack because we talked about you know

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<v Speaker 1>how wire walking it's an extreme sport, that's right, just

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<v Speaker 1>like base jumping. So we're talking, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the history of base jumping. Yes. Uh, if you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the distant history, um, early nineteenth century, there

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<v Speaker 1>were some things going on that is essentially like basse jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a dude named Frederick Rodman Law and he

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<v Speaker 1>jumped um off the Brooklyn Bridge at one point, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Statue of Liberty Yeah, and the Bankers Trust building

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<v Speaker 1>on Wall Street. And this is in like the nineteen tens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean technically he was bass jumping, but these

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<v Speaker 1>were just one off stunts at this point. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>same as in ninety five when Owen Quinn left from

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<v Speaker 1>the World Trade Center and uh, there was another guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Ron Boyle's who jumped from the Royal Gorge Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado. So all this is happening, these little one

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<v Speaker 1>off stunts. And then in this girl named this guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Carl Banish. There's a documentary about him actually called

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<v Speaker 1>Sunshine Superman. Yeah that look did you see the trailer?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't looks really good and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>like now that that one's coming in. Um, so he

0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.960
<v Speaker 1>gets this idea. He goes to Yosemite to film some

0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.000
<v Speaker 1>hang gliders. And these hang gliders there's three dudes on

0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.800
<v Speaker 1>a single hang uh or a glider, I guess you

0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.640
<v Speaker 1>call it. And once they get out over the land,

0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.079
<v Speaker 1>two of them drop off and I think they're flying

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<v Speaker 1>off El Capitan, which is like a few thousand feet tall, right,

0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how tall it is, it's pretty tall.

0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like three thousand feet tall. I mean,

0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:57.640
<v Speaker 1>i've seen it, but from the bottom. Very impressive. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So these two dudes, Rich Piccarelli and Brian Johnson, they

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<v Speaker 1>dropped off, they parachuted into the valley below, and Carl

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Banish was like, very interesting. I think we're onto something here, fellas,

0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:16.360
<v Speaker 1>And so he got Rich Piccarelli and night he said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it, brother, and let's go to El Capitan

0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and jump off of it. Right, Like, forget the hanglider,

0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:29.040
<v Speaker 1>leave that at home. Yeah. Apparently, when they went scouting

0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the place to see if you could just basically base

0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.840
<v Speaker 1>jump off of it. Um, they lowered Banish over the

0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.559
<v Speaker 1>edge on like a rope and they heard him shout eureka,

0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we can jump from here. Now pull me back up please.

0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.520
<v Speaker 1>All the from what I gather from this guy who's

0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.280
<v Speaker 1>probably like, you guys can just go. I'm gonna hang

0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.560
<v Speaker 1>out here for a while. Yeah, that's true. So in

0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>August he took this new crew back to that location

0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh he I think was just filming at the time,

0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.959
<v Speaker 1>and one by one they jumped. And if you look

0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.000
<v Speaker 1>at this documentary footage on the trailer of Sunshine Superman,

0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.040
<v Speaker 1>these guys like way before the go pro, they were

0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like these toaster robbins on their head, essentially attached to

0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.720
<v Speaker 1>helmets because even back then they wanted to film stuff.

0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, apparently Carl Banish, like for that first jump,

0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.560
<v Speaker 1>he had a number of different cameras going for different

0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.720
<v Speaker 1>angles and um, when he was documenting it, he would

0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>make people like do different takes of like walking into

0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.400
<v Speaker 1>frame and stuff like that would be like, okay, go

0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.840
<v Speaker 1>back and do that again. He was like walk again. Yeah.

0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Well that's why they have with that great old footage still,

0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess thanks to him. Um. Sadly he died, uh

0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.080
<v Speaker 1>basse jumping bass jumping, but he was doing it solo,

0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess. In um he did a solo jump off

0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a cliff in Norway and um, no one saw him die,

0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.200
<v Speaker 1>but they figured that he probably was steered into the

0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.320
<v Speaker 1>cliff um that he jumped from, which is called an

0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.280
<v Speaker 1>off heading jump. Right, which is one of the bigger

0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.240
<v Speaker 1>dangers in basse jumping, as we'll see. Well that's where

0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.040
<v Speaker 1>he originally UM. I don't think we mentioned that. These

0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.960
<v Speaker 1>two guys, Michael Pelki and Brian Schubert, were the first

0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.200
<v Speaker 1>two that he heard of that actually did jump from

0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.160
<v Speaker 1>el cappy tan. But they did it with the old

0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.480
<v Speaker 1>school around paratrooper parachutes, and they got slammed into the

0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.760
<v Speaker 1>cliff face again and again and again, breaking bones and

0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.200
<v Speaker 1>foots and legs and things like that. There's that's another video.

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a UM a woman who skied or who base jumped,

0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and she got um, she got she went on to

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<v Speaker 1>an offheading opening. Is that what it's called. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it is um And you just see like she's getting

0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:53.000
<v Speaker 1>just directed right into the cliff face again and again.

0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.320
<v Speaker 1>You just I can't imagine. I mean, it killed her,

0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.760
<v Speaker 1>but I can't imagine how anybody could survive something like

0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that because you're going so fast and all of that

0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.680
<v Speaker 1>velocity is just being slammed into a cliff face and

0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>then you'll bounce off and float away and then just

0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.160
<v Speaker 1>come back in again. Yeah, you're at the mercy of

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.560
<v Speaker 1>nature at that point, right, But that's what happened with

0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.040
<v Speaker 1>those two dudes in the sixties, the first two to

0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>parachute off of El capitan Um, and Karl Banish was like,

0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're The idea of jumping off of

0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.280
<v Speaker 1>El Capitan with the parachute was wrong. I think their

0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.080
<v Speaker 1>gear was just wrong. And that's why Carl Bainish is

0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.360
<v Speaker 1>credited as being the father of um of basse jumping,

0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:40.440
<v Speaker 1>because he applied the techniques that are now the hallmarks

0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.160
<v Speaker 1>of base jumping and the and the equipment. Yeah. Yeah,

0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was also the guy if you complete all

0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.000
<v Speaker 1>four phases, the B, the A, the S and the E,

0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.800
<v Speaker 1>then you are assigned a number, and he's the one

0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that started at but he was based number four though

0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't even number one because he was filming people,

0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I think because his wife was Base three. And uh

0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.280
<v Speaker 1>so he was a feminist as well. He wasn't like

0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.800
<v Speaker 1>good good to be in front of you. Uh So

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Base one was Phil Smith from Texas and as of

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.120
<v Speaker 1>now it's hard to get numbers. Then they point out

0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 1>pretty reasonably that a lot of these things happened in

0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.600
<v Speaker 1>our cover of night and they're not reported necessarily, but

0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.600
<v Speaker 1>as best as we can tell, they're they're up to

0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like base plus at this point. That's what I thought,

0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's who is. Those are people who have completed

0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:36.840
<v Speaker 1>again all four phases buildings, an tennis, spans and uh

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.480
<v Speaker 1>earth Earth And originally it wasn't called base, it was

0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>called best. It was going to be uh buildings, earth

0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.280
<v Speaker 1>span and tower. Yeah, so they just rearranged it a bit. Yeah.

0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Apparently Carl Vanish's wife Jean said she liked best best,

0:17:55.440 --> 0:18:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but Carl like basse um, particularly because the first definition

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of the word was a platform on which something stands.

0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So it makes sense. And before I knew, I've known

0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.560
<v Speaker 1>for a while I was an acronym, but before I

0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.199
<v Speaker 1>knew it was an acronym, I just thought that's what

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it meant, Like, you go stand on some base and

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you jump. You know, Karl Baynis would have been proud.

0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.399
<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right, So let's take a break and

0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.160
<v Speaker 1>then um we will talk about some of that gear

0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:42.600
<v Speaker 1>right after this stump. Alright, dude, So if you want

0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a base jump, you just get an old nineteen sixties

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Army parachute and you go at it, right, yep. Add

0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>some get a weight vest. Yeah, he's scuba diving. Yeah,

0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, pair of sunglasses maybe, yeah, drink

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.879
<v Speaker 1>a gallon of whiskey, yeah, and just fall off of

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the cliff. That's right. No, no, no, no, no no.

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:10.919
<v Speaker 1>What you need is the right gear. And what they

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.160
<v Speaker 1>found out pretty quickly was that something called a ram

0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>air parachute. And these are the ones that you see nowadays.

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't even see the round parachutes anymore. I guess

0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you do if you jump from outer space or if

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like a kind of a hipster vintage. We need

0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to do one on skydiving, I guess. But yeah, I

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.399
<v Speaker 1>guess we haven't, no, because I was like, this doesn't

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>sound familiar, like we've spoken about it before. So I

0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.399
<v Speaker 1>was like, we're doing basse jumping before skydiving. Yeah. I

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.879
<v Speaker 1>like that. That's the opposite of what you're supposed to do,

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.600
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're actually base jumping. Well, that's true. Um,

0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.359
<v Speaker 1>So the ram air parachute is the one that you

0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.040
<v Speaker 1>see a lot now mostly now, which is the one

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.640
<v Speaker 1>that is rectangular, and they give you a lot more

0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.320
<v Speaker 1>control on where you're going because you want to be

0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.360
<v Speaker 1>able to steer this thing quickly, right, So you don't

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>slam into the rock, because that's one of the two dangers,

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:10.400
<v Speaker 1>is slamming into the rocks or slamming into whatever the building. Right.

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 1>The two dangers are slamming into the thing you jump

0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you jumped off of, which is apparently the more frequent danger,

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:21.400
<v Speaker 1>or other things around I guess, right, or slamming into

0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Sure, and like you're shooting, not opening or

0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Yeah, I think mostly though, most injuries

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:34.560
<v Speaker 1>occur from slamming into structures and not improper deployment. Right.

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And the thing about the ram air parachute is it's

0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this rectangular parachute that allows you to maneuver yourself, guide yourself,

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 1>increase or decrease your speed. You're much more in control

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 1>than you are with around parachute, which basically just slows

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 1>your acceleration towards earth. Right, that's right, um, And with

0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>with a ram air parachute, Uh, it works so well

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>that when you are base jumping, your face with a

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>problem because when you're skydiving, you have a lot of time.

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 1>You're jumping at like a well over ten thousand feet usually, right,

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you get the free fall for a while and then

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>say about two thousand feet, you open your shot, and

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>your shoe can just take all the time in the

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 1>world to open. It's pretty yeah, but it's it's not

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 1>like packed and then open. There's a there's a process

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that does take place over the course of maybe a

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.399
<v Speaker 1>second a second and a half that makes a lot

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of difference in going from free fall to floating right

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as your body is concerned, and as far

0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 1>as changing your velocity and direction. Well, with base jumping,

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't have that amount of time. You need your

0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.880
<v Speaker 1>shoot to open pretty quick and so when you when

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you open a ramar shoot, all of a sudden, it

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>can basically snap your neck. It open so so quickly

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>and jerks you up right end. Since you have a

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of velocity because you're in free fall when your

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>shoot opens and all of a sudden, you're not free

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 1>falling any longer, you're transferring some of that velocity to

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the shoot, which can slam you into that cliff side.

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>So there's some some things that you have to to

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with if you're a base jumper that a skydiver

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to deal with, and there's been some clever

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>solutions to those things. Yeah, there's one device called a

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:31.840
<v Speaker 1>slider that basically reduces the rate at which those parachute

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>lines spread out, so it's not gonna deploy as quickly

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and snap your neck in half or not your neck,

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but well I'm not sure what would happen buying or

0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>something could tear you clean in half. Okay, but a

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 1>sliders just like this piece of fabric that that slides

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.919
<v Speaker 1>down the lines, and by doing that, it gives you

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a measure of um control over how fast your shoot opens.

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, the little pilot shoots. If you've ever seen

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a sky diver, there there's that little shoot that comes

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>out and then that helps deploy the big shoot. Same

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.639
<v Speaker 1>with funny cars, did they have a pilot? Really? The

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 1>good ones to? Uh, So you have a larger pilot shoot.

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>If you're a base jumper, because you talked about velocity,

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>there is some velocity, but not like your skydiving, so

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you're actually going a lot slower in most cases unless

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you're really, like you know, jumping off something super super tall,

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 1>So you're not gonna be a like terminal velocity, which

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is what you count on for that shoot to open

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.199
<v Speaker 1>real fast. So because you're not going as fast, you

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 1>want a larger pilot shoot, so it can gather more

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>air to deploy the real shoot faster. Right, And since

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't have that velocity, you also don't have the

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>same amount of air pressure you would if you were

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>at terminal velocity, so that larger pilot pilot shoot gathers

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>more air. Even in this it balances out the fact

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that you have less air pressure. Right, So yeah, it's

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna open your shoe faster. And um, you talked about

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>if you were skydiving normally, if your shoot malfunctions or

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>something not good, but you've got your backup shoot and

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you have time, which is key. Just think, well, things

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:16.880
<v Speaker 1>aren't going well with my regular shoot, let me deploy

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the backup shoots. Don't even have to make some toast.

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll eat my toast and then I'll deploy my backup

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>shoot and the toast of it on my head. But um,

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times space jumpers don't even have backup

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.479
<v Speaker 1>shoots because there's just not enough time. Anyway. It's not

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like they're like screw it, man, although they probably are,

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're extreme dudes and ladies. But even if

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>they were, like, I don't want to screw it. I

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>really want to backup shoot. They're they're they're totally useless. Basically,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Josh wants to backup para shoot. All right, so let's

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about that shoot. Uh, and the accessibility. Um, if

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen a base jumper jump off with the

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>parachute wadded up in their hand end, that is a

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>thing you can do if it's a shorter jump, because

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you just want to be able to throw that thing

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>out almost right away. Um, not a lot of freefall

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 1>going on in that case. No, if it's a little

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>higher than that, they might just pack that pilot shoot

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>like in their pocket or something like that. But that

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>leaves their hands free and then they'll just reach into

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the pocket and pull out the pilot shoot rather than

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>using a rip chord to deploy it. Yeah, most of

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the base jumping, I think most of the rigs today

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>have like a velcro flap type of scene that they use.

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 1>It's not even a rip chord necessarily just sort of

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.719
<v Speaker 1>packed in a pouch of velcrow pouch and you just

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>pull the velcrow off I think so, and just rip

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that away again. I will never do this, so I'm

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>just going on research alone here. No interest. Um, if

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you're below three hundred feet. You might even have to

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>use a static line. And that is when the there's

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>a line actually attached I think to the thing you're

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>jumping off of, right, and it just immediately opens up. Yeah,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it like pulls your pilot shoot out. Um, and then

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it disconnects from it hopefully. Yeah. And um, that guy

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Frederick Rodman Law who jumped off of the Statue of Liberty,

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that was a static line jump. Yeah. Like when you

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>see paratroopers like one after the other in a in

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a plane, A lot of times those are static line jumps. Yeah,

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>they're leaving. Yeah, when they're leaving, there was there's a

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>cord that's left behind after they jumped out that things

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>just pulled their pilot shoot out. That's right. That's a

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.879
<v Speaker 1>low altitude jump technique. That's right. Um, I think offheading opening.

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're talking about earlier? Yes, that's when

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you deploy the shoot again and um, you just start

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>going crazy. Yeah. Because again, you especially if you're in

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>free fall, if you have a couple of seconds to

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to go into free fall with no shoot deployed, no

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>resistance other than your body, Um, you can build up

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty decent amount of velocity and when your shoot opens,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you transfer that velocity to your shoot,

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and your shoot can spin you around in another direction,

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, you're going back towards the

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>cliff or back towards the building, or and you you

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>can be in big, big trouble. Yeah. And while you

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>have some control, it's not the kind of control that

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you're used to, Like, let's in a car or something.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't just be like, oh, let me

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>stop immediately and go in the other direction. Yeah. And

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>even if you are an experienced bass jumper or skydiver,

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not like you're you You are using the chords

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>on your parachute as often as you are like on

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 1>your car, So it's not necessarily as uh natural reaction

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>as it is to like steer your steering wheel out

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of the way of an oncoming truck. So it can

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>be very easy to pull the wrong way or do

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the wrong thing, or not react quite in time. Even

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>though that ram or parachute is giving you more control

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>you you you you have to think so fast and

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>under such sudden stress that you might not make the

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>right decision. Yeah. Well, that's one of the things that

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>um Tom Aello says, Uh, think about if it's right

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>for you. He said that, Um, it's a good fit,

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>or it could be a good fit. If you are

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>intellectually curious, you have good reactions, you respond quickly and

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>correctly without having to think during an emergency, and you're

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>very organized in detail oriented like if you're sloppy, if

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you're lazy, if you take too much time to suss

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>out an emergency, you're not going to be a good

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>based jumper. Do you don't even try it? Don't even

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>try it? So, UM, body positioning is important. Um. When

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you deploy that shoot, and I think the super safe

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>way to base jump, if you call it that would

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>just be to jump off head first in that traditional

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.479
<v Speaker 1>facedown form. Of course, now you see him doing like

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>flips and tumbles and joining hands and spinning each other,

0:28:55.520 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and those are like the serious, seriously experienced people. But

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>even when you do jump off and your your face

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>towards the earth right and you're horizontal parallel to the

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>earth with the shoot deploying behind you, UM, you you

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to take necessarily the um normal skydiving pose

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>with your arms out and your legs splayed. You want

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep your arms on the side and your legs

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>together and basically turn yourself into a bullet going away

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>from the structure that you just jumped off of. It's

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>called tracking, and it can um reduce your chances of

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>an off heading opening. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>want to get as far as far away from the

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>thing that you just jumped off of as possible, exactly,

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and the best way to do that is to turn

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>your body into a bullet that's being directed in the

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>opposite direction. Yeah. And I just let me correct something

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>when I said that these um people now tumble and

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>flip and do all those things they do, but they

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>still when they go to deploy, the shoot will end

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>up in that traditional position right right. It's not like

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>they're upside down. They're like, this is a great time

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to throw out my parish. You know. Um, there was

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a pretty cool video that surfaced in the last year

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>or two. I think of some guys who jumped off

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the New World Trade Center tower at night. It's just crazy.

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>A lot of base jumping happens at night for obvious reasons,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>which seems super scary. So we'll we'll talk about um

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the legalities and the ins and outs of base jumping

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>right after this stop? All right, so why my friend, uh,

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>is base jumping a fringe sport besides the fact that

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you could kill yourself? Well, it's a it's kind of

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a sport of outlaws, that's right. The grabster wrote this article,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and as he puts it, even if the jump itself

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't is an illegal. Gaining access to prime jumping spots

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>often involves trespassing, picking locks, climbing fences, and deceiving security guards.

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that is all part of the rush. Deceiving

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>security guards as a felony offense. What's that, rummer? Do

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you just make it up? It's kind of a daze

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and confused reference. Yeah, campering with mailboxes federal offense? Who's

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>this felony offense? And some of the small parts in

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that movie, I'm pretty convinced we're just regular folks. They

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>weren't actors. Oh yeah, I'm sure they're just friends of

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>link Letter who lived in Austin for a lot of

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the adults like the comedian store guy, and he showed

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>up and I think he's in boyhood. Yeah, he played

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the convenient store kind of boyhood. He's a convenient store dude. Um,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>so the National Parks Service. Obviously, national parks are pretty

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>popular because they have tall things and they don't have

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>many people, and they don't have many cops or park rangers.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you talk about the land mass, you're

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>not gonna see a park ranger for days sometimes. So

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>the National Parks are like, sure, base jump all you want, right, No,

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>for a little while. Um, certain parks would allow it

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>with a permit. Um, you have somebody in El Capyitan.

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>They let that happen for like a few months before

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they realize it's probably not a good idea to be

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on the hook. Yeah. Well, I mean the Park Service

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>experience with base jumping from the start was a bad one.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>These two guys who jumped in the sixties had to

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>be rescued and like metivact out of there at great costs. Yeah,

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the the National Park Service had to flip that bill.

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>So just from the get go they were like, yeah,

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>base jumping sucks, please don't do it here. But there's

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and there was a law already on the books against

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>having a parachute in the National parks and apparently, um

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it was to prevent hunters from resupplying using parachutes. Oh really, Yeah,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>they had nothing to do with base jumping. Interesting, So

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like a supplied drop, So like, no, if you want supplies,

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to go out and then come back. Yeah,

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess. So they're like, oh, needs more AMMO to

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>blow some deuce's head off. I want a parachute. So nowadays,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get fined a couple of grand or more. Um,

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna uh get arrested. You're going to have to

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>pay for any cost of META backing you out. They're

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna take your gear. It's an expensive proposition if you

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>get busted in a national park base jumping. Yeah, it

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>sounds like such a school principal move. Yeah, I'm taking

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>your parachute. Your your parachute has been confiscated and they

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>put it in the drawer At the end of the

0:33:53.480 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>chattering Teeth in the right, um, buildings is always is illegal,

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Almost alwheels always illegal. I didn't see one single building

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>where it wasn't illegal. I didn't either, but the fact

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 1>that the article says almost makes me think there might

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>be one, or maybe it meant if there's an arrangement,

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a great video of two guys I think

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>they were red bull jumping off of the building in Dubai. Yeah,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>did you see that thing? That was nuts? Dude, Vince

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Retha and Fred Fugan And again thanks to the go

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>pro and you can get all of this stuff. Like

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the footage is amazing because you always have someone jumping

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>with you, at least one other person with a camera,

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>um just filming you, and then they have camera setup

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>for the wide shots. And I mean these dudes, did

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>they flew in a spiral around the building. Yeah, they

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>did some pretty amazing stuff. Yeah. I could watch this

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>stuff all day. It's amazing. Again, not interested in doing it.

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I would skydive, though, I'm gonna do that at some point.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>That seems less risky. It is much less risky. And

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean when you go, you they like sit you

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>through a class and like it's just much more structured

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and formalized. One of the things about base jumping is

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that you um, like normally, if you're a base jumper,

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it after you've already become an experienced skydiver,

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and you're probably being taken under the wing of an

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>experienced base jumper, Whereas with skydiving, it's like this is

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>a business comes sit down in this airplane hangar and

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 1>watch this video, and UM, I'm gonna teach you exactly

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>what you need to know. We're gonna go up. And

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>it's been We've already done it fifty times today. Yeah,

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>it's like for a tandem jump, it's like, if you've

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>got seventy and sign a waiver, then you can jump

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 1>out of a plane this afternoon exactly, which is and

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>they're still very scary. Have you ever done that? H

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>did a tandem jump, and yeah, it's very scary, but

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't I just can't imagine a base jump. Did

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the person The one thing I worry about with the

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>tandem jump is I would just want the person to

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>shut up behind me that's attached to me. Yeah, like

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I would want to experience it just myself and not

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>have someone in my ear going like, bro, check it

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>out and it's awesome. I think if that happens, the

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>skydiving company gives you a free another free one if

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you're like the guy was saying, bro in my ear,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted I demand another jump that's uninterrupted. See I

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.919
<v Speaker 1>figured all of them did that, like you having fun? Man?

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>This great? I don't know, I mean not not that

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I know of, because I would have felt bad saying

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited, please keep it down. Can you shut up?

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm experiencing the majesty of this experience. Well, I just

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be reminded that someone's attached to my

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>my butt. Dude. There's a video of a woman who

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>is um doing a tandem jump. First to start off with,

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>she's holding onto the side to the plane and is

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>pushing back on the guy who's trying to push her

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>out the tandom jumping. He has to grab her wrists

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and pull them in and and then push her out.

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that legal? I wouldn't think so. And then secondly,

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>she's obviously not. She's not wearing a suit, she's just

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>wearing her street clothes. So she's got like her arms

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>in the harness, not hooked into the harness, just her

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 1>arms are, and almost immediately she starts to slide out,

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>so she's doubled up with like her legs in her arms,

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>like at her face, her feet sticking into the air.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>In Turkey, just hanging out. I don't know where it was,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>but just it. It didn't appear to be in Dollywood. Um,

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>but Dolly would never allow something like that in her part,

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and she survived. They lived. But like the shoot, it's

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>just like the pilot. She was just hanging out at first,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, what is going to happen? It is

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>so scary, and to start, the woman obviously didn't want

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to do this. She gets forced out of the plane

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and then like almost slides out of the harness. Well

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like she was like doing her taxes and

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>someone abducted her. Kind of look that way. Actually send

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 1>me that video, will you will? Very interesting and it's

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>not a movie. You sure it didn't look like a movie.

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, that's Kathleen O'Hara. That's Romancing the Stone. Uh,

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>that's Kathleen Turner. And I think it's Catherine. It made

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>me think of Romancing the Stone. Yeah, I hear you, Um,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Katherine O'Hara, Yeah, I think it is. I don't know

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>why I thought of her. She just seems like someone

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>who'd be down with that. Yeah. She was the mom

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and home alone, among many many many other things. Right,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's Catherine Oha. Right, Okay, she's an setv vet.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so. Jerry just nodded. So at least she

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>knows what SETV is. Um. It says guarding your spots.

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>What based jumpers don't want to do is is mess

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it up for other base jumpers. So they say, like,

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the worst thing you can do is either get hurt

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>or killed, because that's going to be a dead giveaway

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:16.919
<v Speaker 1>um literally um or just you know, being a jerk

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>getting arrested drawing attention to this otherwise cool spot to

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>base jump. It's very secretive thing. Yeah, it's among the code.

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>The code. I couldn't find the where what it referenced,

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 1>but apparently there was a base jumper in Atlanta who

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>got caught trying to jump off of a building and

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>some other base jumpers like went to his house and

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>beat them up, like bringing heat onto their sport locals

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>only Um yeah point break, Yeah, well the new point

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>break is our base jumpers. Why why can't Hollywood come

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>up with a brand new concept, Like even if all

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of the good ideas have been used before, right and

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and everything is still a category like us buy a movie,

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a bank robber movie, a um, a romantic comedy, like

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.959
<v Speaker 1>all of these things are still just categories and there's

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>still room for creativity. Still that you don't have to go.

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>What movie was big in the eighties, Let's remake it

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>except worse. It's it drives me crazy, man, I've not

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>seen one remake, with the exception of Bad Max that

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>was worthwhile. Well, that wouldn't a remake at all. Was

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>it supposed to be like a prequel or something like that.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's I guess you think you would call

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it a reboot. It's just like a reboot. Here's a

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>new version of a character that's already been established. But

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not like Cannon as they say, Oh, yeah, you

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Yeah, But but do you do

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you agree? Oh? Of course? Can you think of okay,

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.919
<v Speaker 1>can you think of one thing that was already done

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>from the eighties, like a good movie from the eighties

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that was redone recently or even added to that was better,

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that was even good. Um, I'd have to look. I

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>mean there's probably a couple, but not many. You know,

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 1>it's always seems like a bad idea for sure. Let's

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>remake Ghostbusters or just let Ghostbusters exist as great. I'm

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>reserving judgment on that one. Well, it may be good.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>They've got a great director, and who is it? I

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 1>think it's Paul Feig from he directed Bridesmaids, but he

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was uh he did a lot of the freaks and

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>geeks back in the day. Okay, he's a very smart

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and funny guy. For some reason, I thought you were

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about Mike Figgis and I'm like, yeah, that seems

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>directing Ghostbusters. Um. Can I read a little more about

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>how to Get started from this guy? Tom? I yell o,

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I think this was in? Was this an apex from

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the apex website? Um? So, after checking yourself to see

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>if you're a good fit, like I said, if you're

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>have good reaction time and handle emergency as well and

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff, then make the decision to do so.

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And he said, in my short time in the sport,

0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I've seen to lifelight helicopters from the outside, two more

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>from the inside, inside the back of a police car,

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>several broken noses, and a funeral. I've also spent three

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>weeks in intensive care in eighteen hours in neurosurgery. Wow.

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So his contention is if you base jump like hundreds

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of times, like most of those people do, you will

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>get hurt at some point, and that you know, just

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>know that getting into it. Um, and people do die.

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, from what I saw, a hundred and eight

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>people have died since nine but that was as of

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>February two thousand twelve. And by the way, I think

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>we should say, like we're making a lot of jokes

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.720
<v Speaker 1>about how you can die base jumping. It's obviously super

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>tragic when someone dies doing anything. Yes, So I don't

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, make it like we're taking like

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>making light of that kind of thing. Yeah. I didn't

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>think we were, were we No, I just wanted to

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>make sure that well, sure, yeah, someone dies is tragedy,

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>especially when they die young, which most space jumpers except

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>for the seventy three year old who lit his parachute

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>on fire. And again I giggled, not funny, You're just

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna this is like an Ora Borous. I know, I

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>think I get uncomfortable about death and I make and

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I laugh. Man, have you ever seen that one King

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>of the Hill where Khan is giving that that eulogy

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 1>at Buckley's funeral and he talks about the man who's

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>being chased by a tiger and the tiger chases him

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>off the cliff and the man starts to fall, but

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he stops and he grabs himself and he holds on

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>by this route and it turns out it's a strawberry plant,

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and he says that he knows at that moment that

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he is going to die. And he reaches up and

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>he plucks the strawberry from the strawberry plant and eats it,

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's the sweetest strawberry he's ever had. Nice. It's

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a great, great scene like they animated in like the

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>this Chinese illustration. Um, it's really great. I remember when

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he first met Con when Con said he was like ocean.

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're from the ocean, right, good stuff? So

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>where were we? I think five or six have died

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>this year, so more than Dean Potter and Graham Hunt.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Dean Potter is like one of the the biggest like

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>extreme dudes out there, and he passed away a Dya

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>semite recently. Really Yeah, he was doing the wingsuit flying,

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty nuts in and of itself. It's amazing,

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. I was looking at some of that stuff

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>you sent me. I was looking at some wingsuits stuff,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, like, why why would they not put

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 1>wingsuits in the top of tall buildings, like in office towers,

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>just like you have life vests on a boat. I

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>think because it takes a lot of experience to successfully

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>fly in a wingsuit and deploy your parachute. The thing

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>is though, like like why not just put parachutes? Yeah,

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why not? It just seems like it seems

0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like a good idea. I would guess wingsuits are a

0:44:55.200 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>lot cheaper. Even if it's a terrible cruddy wingsuit, it's

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>still worth the shot. Well, have you seen some of

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>those videos the wingsuit flying? It's crazy, it's amazing, like

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>humans are flying at this point. There was one, Um,

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 1>there was one I saw. I don't remember if you

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>you sent it to me or I stumbled across it.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But they had a camera set up in like this

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>grassy meadow and this guy comes and flies right overhead.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>It looks like he's like twenty ft off the ground. Yeah,

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and the grass like moves like the airplane just flew

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 1>over it, like it just ripples. It's unbelievable. That was

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>going fast. That started in the late nineties. UM, the

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>modern wingsuit was developed by a guy or squirrel suit

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>because they look they're like a little flying squirrels basically, uh.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Patrick de Gallardald and France. Um, he died at thirty

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>eight from bass jumping. Are you guys seeing a pattern here? Yeah,

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of basse jumpers died base jumping. Yeah,

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 1>died young. Uh. That was based though in an earlier

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>design by this guy, this basse pioneer, John Carter, that

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>they called the Birdman, And he was a Vietnam veteran,

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and like the seventies, he was creating these wingsuits that

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't work nearly as well. But he was told jumping

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>off of stuff. I probably worked good enough to jump

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>out of an office tower if it's on fire. He

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 1>died too, But I don't think base jumping. I think

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he died like in a plane crash, Banana peal, probably

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.359
<v Speaker 1>going to skydive. Um, but the I mean you can fly.

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the record, I don't know if it still stands,

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>is like five close to five miles of flight in

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a wing suit. Wow. I believe it in uh four

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:38.839
<v Speaker 1>or five minutes. It's pretty amazing. That's like a mile

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a minute. That's sixty. So the final few things you

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>should think about, um, make sure that you're always prepared

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to not do anything that doesn't feel right, and not

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>be afraid to back down. That's a big one is

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to be able saying no, this isn't good because I

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to die. I don't want to base jump

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>successfully is the goal, right, Um, And this one is

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 1>horror trying. Um, tell your family and write a sealed

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>letter to your friends and family on the event that

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you die, explaining exactly why you have decided to take

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>up base jumping and what you get out of it,

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and why you're willing to risk death. Give sealed copies

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to your family and your base mentor to open in

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the event of death. Right, and then make at least

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>two hundred skydives as his and then sort of mimic

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>base jumping as much as you can, like wait as

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.760
<v Speaker 1>long as you can to open, do a lot of tracking,

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>call it max tracking. Uh, find a mentor, get a

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>good base rig and he suggests spending the money and

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>taking an actual class from a manufacturer they have called

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>first jump course classes. And um, he said, even if

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you have a mentor, even if you've done it a

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred times, just spend the money and make sure you

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>know how to do the rigs and everything correctly. Wise

0:47:56.160 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 1>words yelloids, Danny I, yello, UM, base jumping expert. Do

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? They got nothing else. If you

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>want to know more about basse jumping, type those words

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>into the search bar how stuff works dot Com look

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>up Paul A Yellow Yes, and Paul Fieg and Mike

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Figgus Yeah. And then don't basse jump. Yeah, just stay

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>at home and watch base jumping videos. You can do

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that all day long. Um. And since I said search bar,

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I think somewhere in there it's time for a listener mail.

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's ever died watching a bass jumping video.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Have they? You could, Yeah, but it's probably because you

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you just eating seven or eight pounds of taco bell,

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. That's it for me, all right.

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this New Zealand my New Zealand gang,

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the Mongrel Mob. Hey, guys, them from Wellington. I thought

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:51.760
<v Speaker 1>i'd cheer some light on one of the New Zealand's

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>more prominent gangs, the Mongrel Mob. They began when a

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>group of mainly European utes from Wellington and Hawk's Bay

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties. The Mob whereas red regalia, often

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>fusing the cultural tattoo work of the Maori people. I

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like we talked about them in the Maori episode.

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.400
<v Speaker 1>We may have the Mongrel Mob either that is it

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle gang? M I don't know. I'm sure some

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of them have motorcycles, so I think we did talk

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>about them in the Maori episode. I think they're a

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Vespa gang. They're Vespa to there's one driving and then

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 1>one running side saddle and back. Yeah. Um uh, as

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>well as portraits of bulldogs with their tattoos and occasionally

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Nazi symbols that are synonymous with the gang, such as

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>swastikas and the slanted s S symbolo yeah, that are

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>said to be included to provide a contradiction with the

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>British symbol of the bulldog. No. No, it makes sense

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like most gangs of Mongrel Mob is involved in organized

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>crime and thus has been associated with an aggressive and

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 1>feared stereotype of how people. These people live their lives.

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>You just said stereotype like a New Zealander, did I? Yeah,

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you went stereotype weird. Maybe it's how we spelled it, Nope,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>stereo type. What I think is overlooked though, guys, is

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 1>uh the communal family roles that gangs or chapters inherit

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>because of the need of an individual, and we did

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about that some. Yeah, I don't know how you

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>got that as overlooked, buddy, He's a nice fellow. At

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>least in some parts of New Zealand, the mob has

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>scene as an ingrained part of the community and a

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>source of solidarity. Uh. And I've thrown a link to

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a Vice article below about a photographer who spent eight

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>years with the mob documenting and taking portraits. Amazing portraits

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>UM of some of his members, and Vice is awesome,

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.280
<v Speaker 1>so we'll always plug them. So just look up portraits

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of New Zealand's Mighty Mongrel Mob from Vice dot com.

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty neat. And he said, thanks guys, love your work.

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<v Speaker 1>You've killed a lot of potential silence over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Professional silence killers band name killer with bare hand regards

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<v Speaker 1>from the Long White Cloud. I guess that's New Zealand stereotype.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Vander Cult, great name, Yeah, excellent name. Throw a

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<v Speaker 1>little dutchiness in there, great name Dutch tilt Fander Cult.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Sam. Also, somebody I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>it was, so I apologize to you if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted to us. Um an article that I have yet

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<v Speaker 1>to read but looks awesome. It's about Disney gangs. What

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<v Speaker 1>I will send it to you? No serious. I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking over it and I'm like, is this just like

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<v Speaker 1>a hoax? Gangs that hang out in Disney World and

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<v Speaker 1>rough people up or gangs that wear Mickey Mouse costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they rough people up. They don't wear

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mouse costumes, but they wear like they'll have like

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Gang stuff tattooed on them. They wear like Disney

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<v Speaker 1>biker jackets with like their gang symbols have Mickey Mouse involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like Disney Gang. So Disney centered gangs. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about Holly from stuff you miss in history class.

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<v Speaker 1>If she isn't remember, then she at least knows a member.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way she doesn't, or she just didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about it yet. There's no way she's too into Disney. Agreed.

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