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Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know fromhouse stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: There's Charles Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry. We are dancing on

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Speaker 1: the ceiling. Whoa, what a feeling. That song holds up

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Speaker 1: by the way, I heard it recently. Oh yeah, why

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Speaker 1: don't Richie holds up? Man? Yeah, sure, that's the Commodore's

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Speaker 1: great stuff, great great stuff. I think like two of

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Speaker 1: the most underrated bands of the seventies were earth Wind

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Speaker 1: and Fire in the commod Wars, Gareth Wind and Fire

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Speaker 1: was underrated. They were super well group underrated as far

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Speaker 1: as like today, Like, I don't know, you don't hear

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Speaker 1: a lot about that kind of thing. It's all like

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Speaker 1: about the big rock bands. Yeah, oh you mean like

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Speaker 1: bad Finger and Foreigner and yeah, is that what you mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe they weren't underrated. How about this, Two of the

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Speaker 1: best bands from the seventies were the Commodores and earth

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Speaker 1: Winn and Fire. I agree, Man rated it just perfectly.

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Speaker 1: I've said well, and I don't mean to be argumentative.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've said that before, Like I wonder if

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Speaker 1: earth Win and Fire is possibly the greatest band that's

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Speaker 1: ever been. They're pretty amazing. They are amazing, and the

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Speaker 1: different sounds that they took on like it was never

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Speaker 1: just like you know, we hit it and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: stick with it. They were not like a C d

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Speaker 1: C in in other words, and a C d C

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Speaker 1: is great. Man, they got their thing, but they figured

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Speaker 1: it out from song one and they're still doing it today.

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Speaker 1: Simple rock riff played over and over and over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it works for him. Earth Win and fire Man

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Speaker 1: they tried it all. Yeah, and please don't write in

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Speaker 1: about the complexity of a C d C. I love

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Speaker 1: a C d C. But they will even admit that

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Speaker 1: they do one thing well, yeah, which is rock. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a blues riff. I used to think they were

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Speaker 1: heavy metal when I was a kid, which is very

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Speaker 1: funny to think about. Yeah, you know, for seving metal

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Speaker 1: it at all? Who was? I always here Black Sabbath,

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Speaker 1: but I suspect it goes back before that. Sabbath is

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Speaker 1: usually kind of counted as the first, but it's all

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Speaker 1: sort of variations of the blues still, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: all comes down to the blues. That's right now. Nobody

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Speaker 1: live here without singing the blues. Can you name that movie?

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Speaker 1: Is it Crossroads? You would think, no, it's the opposite

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Speaker 1: movie of Crossroads, Adventures in Babysitting. That's the opposite of

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Speaker 1: a cross road. That's funny. Yeah, I remember that part.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, bass jumping has nothing to do with the

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Speaker 1: Blues unless you die, right, unless you're one of the

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Speaker 1: base jumping fatality and one of the dudes, which I

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Speaker 1: will touch on later wrote on a big base jumper

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Speaker 1: wrote an article like like how to Get Started tom Allo,

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Speaker 1: and one of his frightening things he says this, if

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Speaker 1: you are not ready to die base jumping, then you're

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Speaker 1: not ready to basse jump. Yeah. I ran across that

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Speaker 1: on a sentiment too, um, like, the dangers are so

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Speaker 1: vast that you can anticipate being injured almost certainly at

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Speaker 1: some point if you do a lot of base jumping.

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's absolutely true. I mean like it's pretty

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Speaker 1: much the next step in danger is to just jump

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Speaker 1: off a cliff without any parachute at all. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I think one of the that's if you, like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people base jump once. Then

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Speaker 1: they're like that was kind of neat, yawn like it

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Speaker 1: kind of because it's your like it becomes one of

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Speaker 1: your driving forces in your life. Base jumpers are all in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the best way to say it. Um, And I

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Speaker 1: remember kind of like came up in the nineties, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: It was like it became a big deal in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: That's when I became aware of it. But it's it's

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Speaker 1: way older than that. Well, it's a couple of decades older.

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Speaker 1: the late seventies. I guess it's another way to put it. Well,

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Speaker 1: before we get into history, let's at least say what

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Speaker 1: base jumping is, because some people might live under a

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Speaker 1: rock and they don't know what base jumping is. It's

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Speaker 1: actually an acronym. It is was it stand for uh.

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Speaker 1: It stands for buildings, antenna's spans, a K bridges, and

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Speaker 1: earth a K cliffs. Buildings are probably quite a rush

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Speaker 1: and you're most certainly doing something illegal. Yeah, you're there's

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Speaker 1: pretty much not a building in existence you're legally allowed

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've lined the mayor's pockets with cash. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Antennas are super popular, um because they're not as heavily guarded,

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. Right. That's very feeling less risky, um,

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Speaker 1: not death, but less for being caught, right and for

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Speaker 1: um causing injury to other people, which is a big

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Speaker 1: thing with buildings. Yeah. Yeah, antennas. It's like you're gonna

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Speaker 1: cares uh spans Uh. These are very popular, not only

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Speaker 1: because it's fun and gorgeous to leap off of a

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Speaker 1: Doing that connects this podcast to bridges, um, but because

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Speaker 1: really with that without a permit you can just go

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Speaker 1: and jump. There was actually a fatality there, Like guy said,

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Speaker 1: his parachute on fire is part of a stunt and

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Speaker 1: oh I pulled that article. That was just a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. Was it that recent? It was in late May.

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Speaker 1: I had the impression it was a couple of years

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Speaker 1: it's seventy three year old, guys, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it's new unless it's but yeah, he set his

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Speaker 1: and it's just not a very smart thing. No, his

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Speaker 1: his flaming parachute I think continued on without him, and

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Speaker 1: which is sad that they don't have that stuff. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of that on there's a lot of base,

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Speaker 1: base jumping and skydiving deaths on YouTube, tons of well

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Speaker 1: you know why, because they all film each other. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that is when you're jumping off like ilk cappy

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Speaker 1: tan or a cliff or a fiord pretty what, it's

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Speaker 1: just like the words out like the list could have

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Speaker 1: that's true. You don't get along historically, all right, So

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Speaker 1: one should basse jump. Ever, we certainly aren't saying that

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Speaker 1: should definitely, um do what we talked about later, which

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Speaker 1: is how to get started in bass jumping and follow

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Speaker 1: those rules. Get started in bass jumping, think about bass jumping,

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Speaker 1: and then don't do it. I think it's super cool,

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Speaker 1: Like I can watch those videos all day long, but um,

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Speaker 1: not for me. Yea, as far as execution, I have

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Speaker 1: it was these two dudes. I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: I don't remember where their phone. I'm sorry, but they

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Speaker 1: just climb stuff. I've seen it, dude, and they climb

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Speaker 1: their iPhones are like, look at where we are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like no ropes, no harnesses, no parachute, no nothing. It

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Speaker 1: But the um it's in China, and the tops of

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Speaker 1: no fear going whatsoever. They're not capable of it, Like

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Speaker 1: like they're they're like they're broken in some way shape

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Speaker 1: they're making a movie about the the the guy who

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Speaker 1: to see all the sequels are going to make right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a high wire. Great documentary, and uh faith in this movie.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's in three D, isn't it? Or

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Speaker 1: three D? I didn't either. I don't see three D anymore,

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Speaker 1: three D? That was a good one. That was back

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Speaker 1: when three D stunk? Yeah, you know, oh yeah, when

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Speaker 1: bleeding on. Man, we can get sidetracked. Although that wasn't

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Speaker 1: how wire walking it's an extreme sport, that's right, just

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Speaker 1: like base jumping. So we're talking, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the history of base jumping. Yes. Uh, if you

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Speaker 1: talk about the distant history, um, early nineteenth century, there

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Speaker 1: were some things going on that is essentially like basse jumping.

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Speaker 1: shoot and the toast of it on my head. But um,

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00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: a lot of times space jumpers don't even have backup

424
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: shoots because there's just not enough time. Anyway. It's not

425
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: like they're like screw it, man, although they probably are,

426
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, they're extreme dudes and ladies. But even if

427
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: they were, like, I don't want to screw it. I

428
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: really want to backup shoot. They're they're they're totally useless. Basically,

429
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: Josh wants to backup para shoot. All right, so let's

430
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: talk about that shoot. Uh, and the accessibility. Um, if

431
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: you've ever seen a base jumper jump off with the

432
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: parachute wadded up in their hand end, that is a

433
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: thing you can do if it's a shorter jump, because

434
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: you just want to be able to throw that thing

435
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: out almost right away. Um, not a lot of freefall

436
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: going on in that case. No, if it's a little

437
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: higher than that, they might just pack that pilot shoot

438
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: like in their pocket or something like that. But that

439
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: leaves their hands free and then they'll just reach into

440
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: the pocket and pull out the pilot shoot rather than

441
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: using a rip chord to deploy it. Yeah, most of

442
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: the base jumping, I think most of the rigs today

443
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 1: have like a velcro flap type of scene that they use.

444
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: It's not even a rip chord necessarily just sort of

445
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: packed in a pouch of velcrow pouch and you just

446
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: pull the velcrow off I think so, and just rip

447
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: that away again. I will never do this, so I'm

448
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: just going on research alone here. No interest. Um, if

449
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: you're below three hundred feet. You might even have to

450
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: use a static line. And that is when the there's

451
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: a line actually attached I think to the thing you're

452
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: jumping off of, right, and it just immediately opens up. Yeah,

453
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: it like pulls your pilot shoot out. Um, and then

454
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: it disconnects from it hopefully. Yeah. And um, that guy

455
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: Frederick Rodman Law who jumped off of the Statue of Liberty,

456
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: that was a static line jump. Yeah. Like when you

457
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: see paratroopers like one after the other in a in

458
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: a plane, A lot of times those are static line jumps. Yeah,

459
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: they're leaving. Yeah, when they're leaving, there was there's a

460
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: cord that's left behind after they jumped out that things

461
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: just pulled their pilot shoot out. That's right. That's a

462
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: low altitude jump technique. That's right. Um, I think offheading opening.

463
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about earlier? Yes, that's when

464
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: you deploy the shoot again and um, you just start

465
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: going crazy. Yeah. Because again, you especially if you're in

466
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: free fall, if you have a couple of seconds to

467
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: to go into free fall with no shoot deployed, no

468
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: resistance other than your body, Um, you can build up

469
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: pretty decent amount of velocity and when your shoot opens,

470
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you transfer that velocity to your shoot,

471
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: and your shoot can spin you around in another direction,

472
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're going back towards the

473
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: cliff or back towards the building, or and you you

474
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: can be in big, big trouble. Yeah. And while you

475
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: have some control, it's not the kind of control that

476
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: you're used to, Like, let's in a car or something.

477
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just be like, oh, let me

478
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: stop immediately and go in the other direction. Yeah. And

479
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: even if you are an experienced bass jumper or skydiver,

480
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: it's not like you're you You are using the chords

481
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: on your parachute as often as you are like on

482
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: your car, So it's not necessarily as uh natural reaction

483
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: as it is to like steer your steering wheel out

484
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: of the way of an oncoming truck. So it can

485
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: be very easy to pull the wrong way or do

486
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, or not react quite in time. Even

487
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: though that ram or parachute is giving you more control

488
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: you you you you have to think so fast and

489
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: under such sudden stress that you might not make the

490
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: right decision. Yeah. Well, that's one of the things that

491
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: um Tom Aello says, Uh, think about if it's right

492
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: for you. He said that, Um, it's a good fit,

493
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: or it could be a good fit. If you are

494
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: intellectually curious, you have good reactions, you respond quickly and

495
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: correctly without having to think during an emergency, and you're

496
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: very organized in detail oriented like if you're sloppy, if

497
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: you're lazy, if you take too much time to suss

498
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: out an emergency, you're not going to be a good

499
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: based jumper. Do you don't even try it? Don't even

500
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: try it? So, UM, body positioning is important. Um. When

501
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: you deploy that shoot, and I think the super safe

502
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: way to base jump, if you call it that would

503
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: just be to jump off head first in that traditional

504
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: facedown form. Of course, now you see him doing like

505
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: flips and tumbles and joining hands and spinning each other,

506
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: and those are like the serious, seriously experienced people. But

507
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: even when you do jump off and your your face

508
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: towards the earth right and you're horizontal parallel to the

509
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: earth with the shoot deploying behind you, UM, you you

510
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: don't want to take necessarily the um normal skydiving pose

511
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: with your arms out and your legs splayed. You want

512
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: to keep your arms on the side and your legs

513
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: together and basically turn yourself into a bullet going away

514
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: from the structure that you just jumped off of. It's

515
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: called tracking, and it can um reduce your chances of

516
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: an off heading opening. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. You

517
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: want to get as far as far away from the

518
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: thing that you just jumped off of as possible, exactly,

519
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: and the best way to do that is to turn

520
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: your body into a bullet that's being directed in the

521
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: opposite direction. Yeah. And I just let me correct something

522
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: when I said that these um people now tumble and

523
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: flip and do all those things they do, but they

524
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: still when they go to deploy, the shoot will end

525
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: up in that traditional position right right. It's not like

526
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: they're upside down. They're like, this is a great time

527
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: to throw out my parish. You know. Um, there was

528
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: a pretty cool video that surfaced in the last year

529
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: or two. I think of some guys who jumped off

530
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: the New World Trade Center tower at night. It's just crazy.

531
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: A lot of base jumping happens at night for obvious reasons,

532
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: which seems super scary. So we'll we'll talk about um

533
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the legalities and the ins and outs of base jumping

534
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: right after this stop? All right, so why my friend, uh,

535
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: is base jumping a fringe sport besides the fact that

536
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: you could kill yourself? Well, it's a it's kind of

537
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: a sport of outlaws, that's right. The grabster wrote this article,

538
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: and as he puts it, even if the jump itself

539
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: aren't is an illegal. Gaining access to prime jumping spots

540
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: often involves trespassing, picking locks, climbing fences, and deceiving security guards.

541
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure that is all part of the rush. Deceiving

542
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: security guards as a felony offense. What's that, rummer? Do

543
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: you just make it up? It's kind of a daze

544
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: and confused reference. Yeah, campering with mailboxes federal offense? Who's

545
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: this felony offense? And some of the small parts in

546
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: that movie, I'm pretty convinced we're just regular folks. They

547
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: weren't actors. Oh yeah, I'm sure they're just friends of

548
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: link Letter who lived in Austin for a lot of

549
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: the adults like the comedian store guy, and he showed

550
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: up and I think he's in boyhood. Yeah, he played

551
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: the convenient store kind of boyhood. He's a convenient store dude. Um,

552
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: so the National Parks Service. Obviously, national parks are pretty

553
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: popular because they have tall things and they don't have

554
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: many people, and they don't have many cops or park rangers.

555
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk about the land mass, you're

556
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: not gonna see a park ranger for days sometimes. So

557
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: the National Parks are like, sure, base jump all you want, right, No,

558
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: for a little while. Um, certain parks would allow it

559
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: with a permit. Um, you have somebody in El Capyitan.

560
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: They let that happen for like a few months before

561
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: they realize it's probably not a good idea to be

562
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: on the hook. Yeah. Well, I mean the Park Service

563
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: experience with base jumping from the start was a bad one.

564
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: These two guys who jumped in the sixties had to

565
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: be rescued and like metivact out of there at great costs. Yeah,

566
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: the the National Park Service had to flip that bill.

567
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: So just from the get go they were like, yeah,

568
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: base jumping sucks, please don't do it here. But there's

569
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: and there was a law already on the books against

570
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: having a parachute in the National parks and apparently, um

571
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: it was to prevent hunters from resupplying using parachutes. Oh really, Yeah,

572
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: they had nothing to do with base jumping. Interesting, So

573
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: like a supplied drop, So like, no, if you want supplies,

574
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you have to go out and then come back. Yeah,

575
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: I guess. So they're like, oh, needs more AMMO to

576
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: blow some deuce's head off. I want a parachute. So nowadays,

577
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna get fined a couple of grand or more. Um,

578
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna uh get arrested. You're going to have to

579
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: pay for any cost of META backing you out. They're

580
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna take your gear. It's an expensive proposition if you

581
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: get busted in a national park base jumping. Yeah, it

582
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: sounds like such a school principal move. Yeah, I'm taking

583
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: your parachute. Your your parachute has been confiscated and they

584
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: put it in the drawer At the end of the

585
00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: chattering Teeth in the right, um, buildings is always is illegal,

586
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: Almost alwheels always illegal. I didn't see one single building

587
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: where it wasn't illegal. I didn't either, but the fact

588
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: that the article says almost makes me think there might

589
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: be one, or maybe it meant if there's an arrangement,

590
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: Like there's a great video of two guys I think

591
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: they were red bull jumping off of the building in Dubai. Yeah,

592
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: did you see that thing? That was nuts? Dude, Vince

593
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: Retha and Fred Fugan And again thanks to the go

594
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: pro and you can get all of this stuff. Like

595
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: the footage is amazing because you always have someone jumping

596
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: with you, at least one other person with a camera,

597
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: um just filming you, and then they have camera setup

598
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: for the wide shots. And I mean these dudes, did

599
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: they flew in a spiral around the building. Yeah, they

600
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: did some pretty amazing stuff. Yeah. I could watch this

601
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: stuff all day. It's amazing. Again, not interested in doing it.

602
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I would skydive, though, I'm gonna do that at some point.

603
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: That seems less risky. It is much less risky. And

604
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean when you go, you they like sit you

605
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: through a class and like it's just much more structured

606
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: and formalized. One of the things about base jumping is

607
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: that you um, like normally, if you're a base jumper,

608
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: you're doing it after you've already become an experienced skydiver,

609
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: and you're probably being taken under the wing of an

610
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: experienced base jumper, Whereas with skydiving, it's like this is

611
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: a business comes sit down in this airplane hangar and

612
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: watch this video, and UM, I'm gonna teach you exactly

613
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: what you need to know. We're gonna go up. And

614
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: it's been We've already done it fifty times today. Yeah,

615
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: it's like for a tandem jump, it's like, if you've

616
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: got seventy and sign a waiver, then you can jump

617
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: out of a plane this afternoon exactly, which is and

618
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: they're still very scary. Have you ever done that? H

619
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: did a tandem jump, and yeah, it's very scary, but

620
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I can't I just can't imagine a base jump. Did

621
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: the person The one thing I worry about with the

622
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: tandem jump is I would just want the person to

623
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: shut up behind me that's attached to me. Yeah, like

624
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: I would want to experience it just myself and not

625
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: have someone in my ear going like, bro, check it

626
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: out and it's awesome. I think if that happens, the

627
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: skydiving company gives you a free another free one if

628
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you're like the guy was saying, bro in my ear,

629
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: I wanted I demand another jump that's uninterrupted. See I

630
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: figured all of them did that, like you having fun? Man?

631
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: This great? I don't know, I mean not not that

632
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: I know of, because I would have felt bad saying

633
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm very excited, please keep it down. Can you shut up?

634
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm experiencing the majesty of this experience. Well, I just

635
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be reminded that someone's attached to my

636
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: my butt. Dude. There's a video of a woman who

637
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: is um doing a tandem jump. First to start off with,

638
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: she's holding onto the side to the plane and is

639
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: pushing back on the guy who's trying to push her

640
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: out the tandom jumping. He has to grab her wrists

641
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: and pull them in and and then push her out.

642
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Is that legal? I wouldn't think so. And then secondly,

643
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: she's obviously not. She's not wearing a suit, she's just

644
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: wearing her street clothes. So she's got like her arms

645
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: in the harness, not hooked into the harness, just her

646
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: arms are, and almost immediately she starts to slide out,

647
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: so she's doubled up with like her legs in her arms,

648
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: like at her face, her feet sticking into the air.

649
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: In Turkey, just hanging out. I don't know where it was,

650
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: but just it. It didn't appear to be in Dollywood. Um,

651
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: but Dolly would never allow something like that in her part,

652
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: and she survived. They lived. But like the shoot, it's

653
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: just like the pilot. She was just hanging out at first,

654
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, what is going to happen? It is

655
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: so scary, and to start, the woman obviously didn't want

656
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: to do this. She gets forced out of the plane

657
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: and then like almost slides out of the harness. Well

658
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: it sounds like she was like doing her taxes and

659
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: someone abducted her. Kind of look that way. Actually send

660
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: me that video, will you will? Very interesting and it's

661
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: not a movie. You sure it didn't look like a movie.

662
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, that's Kathleen O'Hara. That's Romancing the Stone. Uh,

663
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: that's Kathleen Turner. And I think it's Catherine. It made

664
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: me think of Romancing the Stone. Yeah, I hear you, Um,

665
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Katherine O'Hara, Yeah, I think it is. I don't know

666
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: why I thought of her. She just seems like someone

667
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: who'd be down with that. Yeah. She was the mom

668
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: and home alone, among many many many other things. Right,

669
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: that's right, that's Catherine Oha. Right, Okay, she's an setv vet.

670
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: I think so. Jerry just nodded. So at least she

671
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: knows what SETV is. Um. It says guarding your spots.

672
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: What based jumpers don't want to do is is mess

673
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: it up for other base jumpers. So they say, like,

674
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do is either get hurt

675
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: or killed, because that's going to be a dead giveaway

676
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: um literally um or just you know, being a jerk

677
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: getting arrested drawing attention to this otherwise cool spot to

678
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: base jump. It's very secretive thing. Yeah, it's among the code.

679
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: The code. I couldn't find the where what it referenced,

680
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: but apparently there was a base jumper in Atlanta who

681
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: got caught trying to jump off of a building and

682
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: some other base jumpers like went to his house and

683
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: beat them up, like bringing heat onto their sport locals

684
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: only Um yeah point break, Yeah, well the new point

685
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: break is our base jumpers. Why why can't Hollywood come

686
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: up with a brand new concept, Like even if all

687
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: of the good ideas have been used before, right and

688
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: and everything is still a category like us buy a movie,

689
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: a bank robber movie, a um, a romantic comedy, like

690
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: all of these things are still just categories and there's

691
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: still room for creativity. Still that you don't have to go.

692
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: What movie was big in the eighties, Let's remake it

693
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: except worse. It's it drives me crazy, man, I've not

694
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: seen one remake, with the exception of Bad Max that

695
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: was worthwhile. Well, that wouldn't a remake at all. Was

696
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: it supposed to be like a prequel or something like that.

697
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: It's just it's I guess you think you would call

698
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: it a reboot. It's just like a reboot. Here's a

699
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: new version of a character that's already been established. But

700
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: it's not like Cannon as they say, Oh, yeah, you

701
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, But but do you do

702
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: you agree? Oh? Of course? Can you think of okay,

703
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 1: can you think of one thing that was already done

704
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: from the eighties, like a good movie from the eighties

705
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: that was redone recently or even added to that was better,

706
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: that was even good. Um, I'd have to look. I

707
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: mean there's probably a couple, but not many. You know,

708
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: it's always seems like a bad idea for sure. Let's

709
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: remake Ghostbusters or just let Ghostbusters exist as great. I'm

710
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: reserving judgment on that one. Well, it may be good.

711
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: They've got a great director, and who is it? I

712
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: think it's Paul Feig from he directed Bridesmaids, but he

713
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: was uh he did a lot of the freaks and

714
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: geeks back in the day. Okay, he's a very smart

715
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: and funny guy. For some reason, I thought you were

716
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: talking about Mike Figgis and I'm like, yeah, that seems

717
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: directing Ghostbusters. Um. Can I read a little more about

718
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: how to Get started from this guy? Tom? I yell o,

719
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: I think this was in? Was this an apex from

720
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: the apex website? Um? So, after checking yourself to see

721
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: if you're a good fit, like I said, if you're

722
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: have good reaction time and handle emergency as well and

723
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, then make the decision to do so.

724
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: And he said, in my short time in the sport,

725
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: I've seen to lifelight helicopters from the outside, two more

726
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: from the inside, inside the back of a police car,

727
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: several broken noses, and a funeral. I've also spent three

728
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: weeks in intensive care in eighteen hours in neurosurgery. Wow.

729
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: So his contention is if you base jump like hundreds

730
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: of times, like most of those people do, you will

731
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: get hurt at some point, and that you know, just

732
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: know that getting into it. Um, and people do die.

733
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, from what I saw, a hundred and eight

734
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: people have died since nine but that was as of

735
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: February two thousand twelve. And by the way, I think

736
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: we should say, like we're making a lot of jokes

737
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: about how you can die base jumping. It's obviously super

738
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: tragic when someone dies doing anything. Yes, So I don't

739
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: want to, you know, make it like we're taking like

740
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: making light of that kind of thing. Yeah. I didn't

741
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: think we were, were we No, I just wanted to

742
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: make sure that well, sure, yeah, someone dies is tragedy,

743
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: especially when they die young, which most space jumpers except

744
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: for the seventy three year old who lit his parachute

745
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: on fire. And again I giggled, not funny, You're just

746
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna this is like an Ora Borous. I know, I

747
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: think I get uncomfortable about death and I make and

748
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: I laugh. Man, have you ever seen that one King

749
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: of the Hill where Khan is giving that that eulogy

750
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: at Buckley's funeral and he talks about the man who's

751
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: being chased by a tiger and the tiger chases him

752
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: off the cliff and the man starts to fall, but

753
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: he stops and he grabs himself and he holds on

754
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: by this route and it turns out it's a strawberry plant,

755
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: and he says that he knows at that moment that

756
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: he is going to die. And he reaches up and

757
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: he plucks the strawberry from the strawberry plant and eats it,

758
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: and it's the sweetest strawberry he's ever had. Nice. It's

759
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: a great, great scene like they animated in like the

760
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: this Chinese illustration. Um, it's really great. I remember when

761
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: he first met Con when Con said he was like ocean.

762
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you're from the ocean, right, good stuff? So

763
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: where were we? I think five or six have died

764
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: this year, so more than Dean Potter and Graham Hunt.

765
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Dean Potter is like one of the the biggest like

766
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: extreme dudes out there, and he passed away a Dya

767
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: semite recently. Really Yeah, he was doing the wingsuit flying,

768
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: So that's pretty nuts in and of itself. It's amazing,

769
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: you know. I was looking at some of that stuff

770
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: you sent me. I was looking at some wingsuits stuff,

771
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: and I thought, like, why why would they not put

772
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: wingsuits in the top of tall buildings, like in office towers,

773
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: just like you have life vests on a boat. I

774
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: think because it takes a lot of experience to successfully

775
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: fly in a wingsuit and deploy your parachute. The thing

776
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: is though, like like why not just put parachutes? Yeah,

777
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, why not? It just seems like it seems

778
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: like a good idea. I would guess wingsuits are a

779
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: lot cheaper. Even if it's a terrible cruddy wingsuit, it's

780
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: still worth the shot. Well, have you seen some of

781
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: those videos the wingsuit flying? It's crazy, it's amazing, like

782
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: humans are flying at this point. There was one, Um,

783
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: there was one I saw. I don't remember if you

784
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: you sent it to me or I stumbled across it.

785
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: But they had a camera set up in like this

786
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: grassy meadow and this guy comes and flies right overhead.

787
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: It looks like he's like twenty ft off the ground. Yeah,

788
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: and the grass like moves like the airplane just flew

789
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: over it, like it just ripples. It's unbelievable. That was

790
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: going fast. That started in the late nineties. UM, the

791
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: modern wingsuit was developed by a guy or squirrel suit

792
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: because they look they're like a little flying squirrels basically, uh.

793
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: Patrick de Gallardald and France. Um, he died at thirty

794
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: eight from bass jumping. Are you guys seeing a pattern here? Yeah,

795
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of basse jumpers died base jumping. Yeah,

796
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: died young. Uh. That was based though in an earlier

797
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: design by this guy, this basse pioneer, John Carter, that

798
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: they called the Birdman, And he was a Vietnam veteran,

799
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: and like the seventies, he was creating these wingsuits that

800
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: didn't work nearly as well. But he was told jumping

801
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: off of stuff. I probably worked good enough to jump

802
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: out of an office tower if it's on fire. He

803
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: died too, But I don't think base jumping. I think

804
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: he died like in a plane crash, Banana peal, probably

805
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: going to skydive. Um, but the I mean you can fly.

806
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: I think the record, I don't know if it still stands,

807
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: is like five close to five miles of flight in

808
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: a wing suit. Wow. I believe it in uh four

809
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: or five minutes. It's pretty amazing. That's like a mile

810
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: a minute. That's sixty. So the final few things you

811
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 1: should think about, um, make sure that you're always prepared

812
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: to not do anything that doesn't feel right, and not

813
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: be afraid to back down. That's a big one is

814
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: to be able saying no, this isn't good because I

815
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: don't want to die. I don't want to base jump

816
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: successfully is the goal, right, Um, And this one is

817
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: horror trying. Um, tell your family and write a sealed

818
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: letter to your friends and family on the event that

819
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: you die, explaining exactly why you have decided to take

820
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: up base jumping and what you get out of it,

821
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: and why you're willing to risk death. Give sealed copies

822
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: to your family and your base mentor to open in

823
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: the event of death. Right, and then make at least

824
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: two hundred skydives as his and then sort of mimic

825
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: base jumping as much as you can, like wait as

826
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: long as you can to open, do a lot of tracking,

827
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: call it max tracking. Uh, find a mentor, get a

828
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: good base rig and he suggests spending the money and

829
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: taking an actual class from a manufacturer they have called

830
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: first jump course classes. And um, he said, even if

831
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: you have a mentor, even if you've done it a

832
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: hundred times, just spend the money and make sure you

833
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: know how to do the rigs and everything correctly. Wise

834
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: words yelloids, Danny I, yello, UM, base jumping expert. Do

835
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: you got anything else? They got nothing else. If you

836
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: want to know more about basse jumping, type those words

837
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: into the search bar how stuff works dot Com look

838
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: up Paul A Yellow Yes, and Paul Fieg and Mike

839
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Figgus Yeah. And then don't basse jump. Yeah, just stay

840
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: at home and watch base jumping videos. You can do

841
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: that all day long. Um. And since I said search bar,

842
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: I think somewhere in there it's time for a listener mail.

843
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's ever died watching a bass jumping video.

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00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: Have they? You could, Yeah, but it's probably because you

845
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: you just eating seven or eight pounds of taco bell,

846
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's it for me, all right.

847
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this New Zealand my New Zealand gang,

848
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: the Mongrel Mob. Hey, guys, them from Wellington. I thought

849
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: i'd cheer some light on one of the New Zealand's

850
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: more prominent gangs, the Mongrel Mob. They began when a

851
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: group of mainly European utes from Wellington and Hawk's Bay

852
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. The Mob whereas red regalia, often

853
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: fusing the cultural tattoo work of the Maori people. I

854
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: feel like we talked about them in the Maori episode.

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00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: We may have the Mongrel Mob either that is it

856
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: a motorcycle gang? M I don't know. I'm sure some

857
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: of them have motorcycles, so I think we did talk

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00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: about them in the Maori episode. I think they're a

859
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: Vespa gang. They're Vespa to there's one driving and then

860
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: one running side saddle and back. Yeah. Um uh, as

861
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: well as portraits of bulldogs with their tattoos and occasionally

862
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: Nazi symbols that are synonymous with the gang, such as

863
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: swastikas and the slanted s S symbolo yeah, that are

864
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: said to be included to provide a contradiction with the

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00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: British symbol of the bulldog. No. No, it makes sense

866
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: like most gangs of Mongrel Mob is involved in organized

867
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: crime and thus has been associated with an aggressive and

868
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: feared stereotype of how people. These people live their lives.

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00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: You just said stereotype like a New Zealander, did I? Yeah,

870
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: you went stereotype weird. Maybe it's how we spelled it, Nope,

871
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: stereo type. What I think is overlooked though, guys, is

872
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: uh the communal family roles that gangs or chapters inherit

873
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: because of the need of an individual, and we did

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00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: talk about that some. Yeah, I don't know how you

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00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: got that as overlooked, buddy, He's a nice fellow. At

876
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: least in some parts of New Zealand, the mob has

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00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: scene as an ingrained part of the community and a

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00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: source of solidarity. Uh. And I've thrown a link to

879
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: a Vice article below about a photographer who spent eight

880
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: years with the mob documenting and taking portraits. Amazing portraits

881
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: UM of some of his members, and Vice is awesome,

882
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: so we'll always plug them. So just look up portraits

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00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: of New Zealand's Mighty Mongrel Mob from Vice dot com.

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00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: It's pretty neat. And he said, thanks guys, love your work.

885
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: You've killed a lot of potential silence over the years.

886
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Professional silence killers band name killer with bare hand regards

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00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: from the Long White Cloud. I guess that's New Zealand stereotype.

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00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: Sam Vander Cult, great name, Yeah, excellent name. Throw a

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00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: little dutchiness in there, great name Dutch tilt Fander Cult.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Sam. Also, somebody I don't know who

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00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: it was, so I apologize to you if you're listening,

892
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: tweeted to us. Um an article that I have yet

893
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to read but looks awesome. It's about Disney gangs. What

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00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: I will send it to you? No serious. I was

895
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: looking over it and I'm like, is this just like

896
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: a hoax? Gangs that hang out in Disney World and

897
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: rough people up or gangs that wear Mickey Mouse costumes.

898
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't think they rough people up. They don't wear

899
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse costumes, but they wear like they'll have like

900
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Disney Gang stuff tattooed on them. They wear like Disney

901
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: biker jackets with like their gang symbols have Mickey Mouse involved,

902
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: and they're like Disney Gang. So Disney centered gangs. So

903
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about Holly from stuff you miss in history class.

904
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: If she isn't remember, then she at least knows a member.

905
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: There's no way she doesn't, or she just didn't know

906
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: about it yet. There's no way she's too into Disney. Agreed.

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00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: Uh So, if you want to get in touch with

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00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: us to let us know about a gang in your area,

909
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: or a base jump that you did, or whatever, you

910
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,800
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