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Speaker 1: What is up? What's going on? Y'all?

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Speaker 2: This is another episode of the Beatdown Podcast, Week three edition.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, senior writer for the Washington Commanders, Zach Selby,

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Speaker 2: and the Commanders suffered their first loss at lambeau Field

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Speaker 2: at the hand of the Green Bay Packers twenty seven

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Speaker 2: to eighteen. Bit of a tough one for sure, stayed

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Speaker 2: in it, but a lot of errors injuries all over

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Speaker 2: the place, one of which we will be talking about

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Speaker 2: later on today. But we're moving on after they have

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Speaker 2: a chance to lick their wounds, to go to Northwest

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Speaker 2: State and to play the Las Vegas Raiders, who suffered

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Speaker 2: a loss on Monday night, late night Monday night football

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Speaker 2: matchup between them and the Chargers, And how are they

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Speaker 2: going to do that, especially with Jayden Daniels potentially his

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Speaker 2: status up in the air. Well, that is what we're

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Speaker 2: going to be talking about today. We have two new

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Speaker 2: guests we have. On one hand, we have Lian Griffin

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Speaker 2: from the Washington Times.

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Speaker 1: Lee, Am I doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good?

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Speaker 1: Happy to be here again.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to have you as well. And we also

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Speaker 2: have David Harrison from Sports ills Tree.

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Speaker 1: Howy you doing?

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Speaker 4: Man? I am good? How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing doing excellent, you know.

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Speaker 2: And also for the people I did to get engaged

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Speaker 2: over the weekend, so that's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: We're still over the moon about that.

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Speaker 2: Throw that out there, but we'll go ahead and dive

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Speaker 2: into it here, and you guys know the deal by now.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna ask these people questions, We're gonna give up points,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have winners losers. It will be decided by

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Speaker 2: me because I am the host and I am burdened

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Speaker 2: with that purpose. All that said, let's dive in to it,

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Speaker 2: starting with jayde and Daniels, who I mentioned earlier. He

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Speaker 2: suffered a knee injury, and his status right now is

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Speaker 2: we don't know. To be honest, it looks like he's

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Speaker 2: gonna be going through his return to play process. We

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly at the timas recording it. It's Tuesday

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Speaker 2: at six thirty one pm, so we don't know exactly

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Speaker 2: how much time he's going to be practicing and win

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Speaker 2: thro your Thursday or Friday, but he will be monitored

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Speaker 2: pretty heavily to see if he's going to be able

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Speaker 2: to play or not. If he does not play, the

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Speaker 2: commanders will have to go with Marcus Mariota as their backup,

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Speaker 2: and he got to play a little bit last year

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys and the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: So we'll start there and we'll start again.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, but what if Jaden is available and

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Speaker 2: how does that game plan change for the Raiders if

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Speaker 2: he has to miss at least some amount of times here.

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Speaker 1: So Leean will start with you and we'll give your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the Commanders are pretty fortunate in

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Speaker 3: this situation. Mariota is widely regarded as one of the

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Speaker 3: more competent backups in the league. Obviously, you never want

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Speaker 3: your star quarterback missing time, but from every conversation that

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Speaker 3: we've had with the team, they feel totally confident in

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Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota's ability to run this offense. One of the

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Speaker 3: reasons that he got brought in was because of his

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Speaker 3: ability to run the same system without taking, you know,

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Speaker 3: too much off the table. So, yeah, you'll probably see

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Speaker 3: a bit fewer of the of the deep shots that

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Speaker 3: Jaden has been you know, increasingly comfortable with, even when

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Speaker 3: they're not connecting, You'll see him take those. You might

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Speaker 3: see a bit fewer of those with Marcus Marriauda behind center.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that you'll see, you know, any

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Speaker 3: any decrease in the number of like quarterback runs. I

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Speaker 3: game for the quarterback and and for the running backs

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Speaker 3: as well, even with Austin Eckler out, And I think

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage because that has worked for Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 3: offenses in the past. So things like jet sweeps, screens,

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Speaker 3: those kinds of things will help your backup quarterback get

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Speaker 3: more comfortable in that offense if he's called upon on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I remember last year, way in the

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Speaker 2: off season, everyone looked at the marks Mario to.

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Speaker 1: Signing as a whole hope he never.

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Speaker 2: Plays, and you know that that that is basically still

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Speaker 1: But he's shown that he can still go out there

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Speaker 2: I mean, his his two performances completion percentage was we're

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Speaker 1: Of like his entire career, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Through no interceptions. Still shows they had a little bit

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Speaker 2: and you know, I said, we haven't seen h thin'

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Speaker 1: So are you concerned.

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Speaker 2: About how much time he did not get to spend

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Speaker 2: And if so, I mean, does that affect anything about

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Speaker 1: It has to start.

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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily concerned with how many reps he missed,

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Speaker 4: look at that as a downgrade. And I think that

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Speaker 4: if this were to be a season ending situation, then

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Speaker 4: certainly you could go there. But I think in a

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Speaker 4: and in a lot of ways that I could actually

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Speaker 4: benefit the commanders if it were to happen, like there's

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Speaker 4: there's a silver lining here that could be very real,

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Speaker 4: you know, and break through the cloud or whatever you

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Speaker 4: you know, Marcus, like you alluded to, like the veteran presence.

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Speaker 4: You know, people have spoken about jade Daniels and his

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Speaker 4: it's the right side of the field, right. But as

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Speaker 4: he's just not as much of a threat to keep

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Speaker 4: the ball. And again, like on the surface, that might

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Speaker 4: seem like you're taking away a big part of Cliff

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Speaker 4: Kingsbury's offense, and to a certain extent you are. This

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Speaker 4: not necessarily a bad thing because what it allows your

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Speaker 4: to not have to wonder what's happening behind them. Right Like,

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Speaker 4: the play changes exponentially depending on if Jaden keeps the

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Speaker 4: hands the ball off, it's a pretty straight up run play.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to hit my first Mark, I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 4: I've got to react to that as well, and the

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Speaker 4: You have a quarterback, they can't do the read option

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Speaker 4: as much like Mark's Mariota. It simplifies things to the

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Speaker 4: I'm eyeing that linebacker because I know I'm going there.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to wonder about what's happening behind me.

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Speaker 4: So in some ways, the simplicity of it, if it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I kind of want to highlight

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Speaker 2: using the read option as much, I mean for me,

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Speaker 2: And this is, you know, just a little behind the

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Speaker 2: say one of the things he does better than almost

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's out there. We again, He's no,

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Speaker 2: he's you know, he's in his thirties and I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He even said after that long run head against the Cowboys, like, wow,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I still have that anymore than

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Speaker 2: I used to have, but it I do think maybe

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Speaker 2: that is going to be a part of it. Lee,

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Speaker 2: I want your thoughts on that, because again, like you

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Speaker 2: you didn't want the scheme to change that much, he

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Speaker 2: had to play, and one way or the other, whether

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Speaker 2: it's different than Jaden or not, Like the quarterback's legs

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Speaker 2: in this offense do play a pretty critical role in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we have a lot of

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Speaker 3: times because Marcus has been in the league so long.

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Speaker 3: I think this is his through eleventh season, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we have this kind of vision of him.

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Speaker 1: He's also you know, sporting, like.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of an early gray, but like he's

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Speaker 3: only thirty one years old, and you know, he had

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Speaker 1: A weird way what they need. But we'll move on.

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Speaker 3: with the Jets.

436
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,280
Speaker 1: And so I think.

437
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,480
Speaker 3: If you're that secondary, you have to you have to

438
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 3: be aggressive. Like you two both touched on it, Gino

439
00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,320
Speaker 3: is wheeling and able to throw that deep ball, and

440
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,280
Speaker 3: he's got the receivers as well. They've got receivers over

441
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 3: there who have speed, and so you're going to need

442
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,880
Speaker 3: those safeties. Either you're going to use take that safety

443
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 3: help over the top and you're gonna want those safeties

444
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,959
Speaker 3: to be aggressive, or you're going to want those lockdown

445
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,040
Speaker 3: corners who you you have showered so much praise on

446
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 3: this offseason, and they all had great training camps, but

447
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,640
Speaker 3: you have to have that translate onto the field. And

448
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean all three of those guys, Trey Amos and

449
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,960
Speaker 3: Mikey Samers still a Marshall Latimore, they didn't really have

450
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,000
Speaker 3: like stellar, stellar games on Thursday. Amos had that fourth

451
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 3: down pass breakup in the fourth quarter where he flashed

452
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,240
Speaker 3: great recovery, he got his hand on the ball to

453
00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 3: prevent a touchdown, but he was beat. I mean, if

454
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 3: Jordan Love throws that pass a little bit better, then

455
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 3: that's that's a clear touchdown. And we're talking about you know,

456
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 3: Amos skinning torched and he was the best of those

457
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 3: three corners on Thursday. And so you can't have that

458
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 3: kind of repre performance against the team that's going to

459
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 3: be aggressive and is going to give you those opportunities

460
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 3: because you're you're going up against the Chip Kelly offense,

461
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 3: They're going to throw some stuff at you. And so

462
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 3: that communication and that discipline to stay in your zone

463
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 3: when you have one, and to really match up one

464
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 3: on one and win and make a play on the ball.

465
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 3: That's going to be what it takes. And again it

466
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 3: might sound overly simplistic, but sometimes that's what it takes

467
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 3: on defense to stop the opposition. Like you have to

468
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 3: be where you're supposed to be, You have to communicate

469
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 3: with your teammates, and when the opportunity presents itself, you

470
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 3: have to capitalize on it. You can't have those situations

471
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 3: where this interception gets pulled back because of a rough

472
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 3: in the passer or oh you know, I got a

473
00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 3: handout but couldn't couldn't quite come down with it. Like,

474
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 3: you have to convert those things. And if you don't

475
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 3: like Joe whit's gonna start fulming.

476
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he definitely will.

477
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 2: I think like we should talk about the matchups here

478
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: specifically on the outside because this this Raider receiving group,

479
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: and I would say of the three that we've seen

480
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 2: so far, it's definitely third on the list in my opinion,

481
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: because they don't have they don't have the elite neighbors.

482
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: They've got Jacobe Myers up there, and Joby Mayers is

483
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: a solid player, but he's not He's definitely not in

484
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: that that same tier. Brock Ours is I think my

485
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: far the best weapon. But then you've got guys that

486
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: Trey Tucker, you got Dante Thornton, Jack Beck. All these

487
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: guys are pieces, and this secondary seems like it would

488
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: have a better matchup against those, specifically guys like Trey

489
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: and Most and Marshall Latimore, who I've said are we're

490
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 2: pretty solid at man coverage. So David, let me I'm

491
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: curious to know, like what your assessment is about how

492
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 2: Trey and and Marshal Gould do against these guys and

493
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Speaker 2: what they can do to put themselves in better positions.

494
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think I think a lot of it.

495
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,959
Speaker 4: You You you have these mistakes in zone, and as

496
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: a decordinatorly we all wonder like where's the where's the

497
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 4: adjustments to try to stop these tight ends and all

498
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: that stuff? And I think the adjustment came and as

499
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 4: you go through the process of that game, you see

500
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 4: Joe a Junior go more towards man coverage go away

501
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 4: from the zone coverage, especially the zone pressures and things

502
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 4: like that, And that's the adjustment, right, Like, my guys

503
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 4: are doing better in man than they are in the zone.

504
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: And and you know, it's it's funny just the different

505
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: sides of the coin that sometimes people don't understand. Is

506
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 4: like in zone, it's easier in the sense that you're

507
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 4: not you know, I mean everything becomes man eventually, right,

508
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: I think we all know that. But like in zone

509
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: it's a little bit easier because you're not fighting off

510
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 4: the line necessarily. It's more just kind of read and

511
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 4: react and wait for the assignment to come to you

512
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 4: than anything. And in man it's easier. You just you

513
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 4: just I'm covering a lepet whoever it is, Like Eleven's

514
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: my dude, I stay with eleven. That's simplistic. But it's

515
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 4: also hard because they do things like rub pick, you know,

516
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 4: mesh all these up to things that they can do

517
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 4: to try to knock you out man beaters, as Marshall

518
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 4: Lattimore put it. And when they see that you're going

519
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: into just man because you're not running your zone efficiently,

520
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 4: because you're not communicating, then it just makes it easy pickings, right.

521
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: I've seen fans hear the Marshall Latimore comment of you

522
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 4: know what, we went into man a lot and they

523
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 4: just ran man beaters, and people were like, oh, it's

524
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 4: that easy to beat. This defense is going to man beaters. Well, yeah,

525
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 4: when your zone isn't communicating effectively, it is that easy

526
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: because your choices are we try to latch onto your

527
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 4: hip and keep you covered as much as possible, or

528
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: we continue to miscommunicate in zone and we just leave

529
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 4: you even more wide open, Like which of the negatives

530
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: do you want? So that's just kind of what it

531
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 4: leads to with Trey Amos and Marshawn Lattimore. I would

532
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: actually say, even though because of all the man beaters,

533
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 4: Marshawn specifically catching a lot of heat kind of gets

534
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: you know, exposed a little bit more there. But that's

535
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: just just kind of the nature of the business, to

536
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: be honest with you, And it sucks to say it

537
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 4: that way because people want to hear a solution. They

538
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 4: don't want to hear like you just got your butt beat,

539
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But at the end of

540
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 4: the day, that's kind of what it ends up happening.

541
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: I think here in this game, Like they're gonna work

542
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: on the communication. You know, the guys who messed up

543
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 4: the communication understand they've done wrong. They've done it before correctly.

544
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, man, Like, I went back

545
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: and I was watching the Raiders. They're their first game

546
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: this season against the Patriots, and literally the first snap

547
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: is a very similar play to what the Packers ran

548
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: to get that fifty seven yard. Like it's kind of

549
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: eerie of how similar the play was. Now instead of

550
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: editing up with like four guys on one side, the

551
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 4: Raiders end up with three on the one side. But like,

552
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: it's very eerie. And in this case, you know, the

553
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: same thing. The flat gets covered, the chip releaser gets covered,

554
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: and it's the middle linebacker who actually blows the assignment

555
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: and ends up opening the back door for brock Powers

556
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 4: that leads to the big play. When you know, Mike

557
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 4: Rabel did not appreciate that from a linebacker, right, So

558
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: it's just but it's just another example of like, that's

559
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 4: what these plays are designed do, is put guys in conflict.

560
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: And when the Raiders case it was a play action,

561
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: the middle linebacker bid up on the play action leaves

562
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: the back door open for Brock powers that conflict. How

563
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: do you negotiate that conflict, Well, if you negotiate it

564
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 4: within your assignment, you'll be fine. Middle linebacker's not supposed

565
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 4: to bite up on that play action. In that play,

566
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: your job is to run fit which comes after you

567
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: know it's clicking closed seatball, get ball, whatever euphemism you

568
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 4: want to use. So it's it's again. It just boils

569
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 4: down to assignment football. I'm interested, Zach. I want to

570
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 4: see this. I want to see Joe Whip pull out

571
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 4: of cover two trap. I think that's something that the

572
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: Washington commanders could really execute well against Gino Smith. You know,

573
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 4: drop two safeties kind of look like you have those

574
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 4: soft corners, whether it's Marshawn or Trey, bring that pass

575
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: rush and Gino, like we said, he's going to put

576
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: the ball in play. So if you make him think

577
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: that underneath, that underneath shot on the outside is open

578
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: when that pass rush is coming there. You know, for

579
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: those who don't know what to cover two trap is,

580
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 4: you know that corner triggers. As soon as you see

581
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: Geno looking your way with that arm cocking back, you trigger.

582
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: You go downhill. You try to get in front of

583
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: that ball, and you can do that aggressively, because if

584
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: you're wrong, or if you're too late and the ball

585
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: gets completed, your safety is also triggering behind you. Instead

586
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 4: of dropping deeper into his cover, he's triggering down behind

587
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: you to lay a hit on the receiver. You know

588
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 4: it's risky, it's aggressive, but I think that's the kind

589
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: of play that one, if you execute appropriately and accurately,

590
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 4: could lead to a pick six.

591
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: And I think if you say you've got as much

592
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: confidence in your corners as as they do, then this

593
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: should be something you feel like you should be confident

594
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: in doing, and especially guy that Tray and Marshall, who

595
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: they're supposed to have these reputations being very good at

596
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: banking players in the ball. So we'll see last thing

597
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: before we move on to the last question here. And

598
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: we've we've mentioned brop hours and I feel like we

599
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: have to at least address him a little bit of here, Liam.

600
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: And it's not maybe not as simple as like who

601
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: do you put on him?

602
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: But maybe it is in some ways like what is

603
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: this secondary's answer for a gual I brought powers who

604
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: is physical, strong and runs like a receiver and look

605
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to hear your thoughts and like, what

606
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: do you think their answer is for him?

607
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that it's not the ideal answer

608
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 3: that you want to hear, but I think the answer

609
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 3: is running running those zones properly. I don't think they're

610
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: going to man him up all the time. The answer

611
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: is going to be, like you know, Bobby Wager taking

612
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 3: away to send O the field. The answer is going

613
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: to be Will Harris, you know, fulfilling his role as

614
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: that kind of Swiss army knife on the defense and

615
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: playing different roles and hopefully confusing Geno Smith. But I

616
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: don't think there's going to be a single, you know,

617
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: matchup that they're going to be looking to exploit. It's

618
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 3: going to take that entire defense. But it's gonna take

619
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: them living up to their potential. Because we talk about

620
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: Will Harris. He had a really rough game on Thursday night,

621
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: and I think they have they have pretty grand designs

622
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: for him, and he's got a really difficult role in

623
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: this defense that he's still trying to figure out. But

624
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: part of that role is supposed to be you hear

625
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, teams around the league talk about it like

626
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: guys who take away the opposing tight end. So guys

627
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: like like Derwin James or Kyle Hamilton, those kinds of

628
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: of safeties are obviously like great at their craft who

629
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: can fill those different roles and take away those kind

630
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 3: of versattle targets for an offense. Ideally you'd love to have,

631
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: you know, to help, say, Will Harris, you're not gonna

632
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 3: let rock Bowers get anything. But I don't think that's

633
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: exactly how that's gonna work. It's going to take that

634
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: kind of aggregate performance from the defense to really work

635
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: together to blanket that coverage.

636
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: No, it's it's like dat, I mean, it's eleven players

637
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: working as one because you have one guy that's that's

638
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: going that they kind of does his own thing and

639
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: all of a sudden missus assignment all of a sudden, Yeah,

640
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: have like as I brought power, if you're gonna have.

641
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: A good day.

642
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: And on that note, I feel like I got to

643
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: give David the point here because he brought the heat

644
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: with the with the play breakdown, the conversary traps, all

645
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: all that stuff that was excellent but really great points

646
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: to buy you two, Liam, and we'll move on to

647
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: the final question. And for the sake of making this

648
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: a little spicy, we will allow two points for for this.

649
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Speaker 2: So if you may, if you win this one, leaue

650
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: you still you still got the whole, the whole around,

651
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: the whole game.

652
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Speaker 1: We'll move on to the last question here.

653
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: And I think there was a lot of positions that

654
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: were that you were wanting more from against the Packers

655
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons, right, whether it was maybe

656
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: is top of the line go up against that pass rush,

657
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: or giving the quarterback in some instances, or receivers getting open,

658
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: you know, pass away the pattress for the commanders or

659
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: the linebackers and the safeties like all that stuff. But like,

660
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: what's if there's if if the Commanders are gonna be

661
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: able to bounce back and go to two on here,

662
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: what's one position that absolutely needs to show a little

663
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: bit more here?

664
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Speaker 1: And Liam, we'll start.

665
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Speaker 3: With you, Uh yeah, I'll take the easy option there,

666
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: and I will say the offensive line. You can't have

667
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: that kind of performance going forward. Like I know, Michael

668
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: Parsons is a freak of nature. I know that you're

669
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: not going to have to play him twice a year anymore.

670
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: But you're back this week and you're playing Max Crosby instead.

671
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: That's not it doesn't get it easier. Like every week

672
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: you're going to be going against NFL edge rushers if

673
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: you're Josh Connerly, and there's there's not going to be

674
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, anyone that you can really like rest on

675
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: your laurels for. And yeah, it's a tough assignmon going

676
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: from the Giants with Brian Burns and Caveon Thibodeaux and

677
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: Abdul Carter and going to Michael Parsons now going to

678
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: Max Crosby, But like this is what you get drafted

679
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: in the first round for, and it's it's not going

680
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: to be easy, but that's going to be so crucial

681
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: for this offense to get rolling because we really haven't

682
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: seen them click yet this season and that that that's

683
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: what carried this team through that postseason run, was an

684
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: offense that could turn it on when they really needed to,

685
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: and we haven't seen them like hit that hit that

686
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: second third fourth year this season, and a lot of

687
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: that is because they haven't had a lot of they

688
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: haven't had a lot of time like for for the passers,

689
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: and if you've got a potentially injured Jane Daniels back there,

690
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: who's not at you know, running out one hundred percent speed.

691
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: You're gonna need to.

692
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: Buy him some time.

693
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: Or if you've got Marcus Mariota, who may not be

694
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: quite as spry, then you're gonna want to let him

695
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: sort through those reads without being you know, having Max

696
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: Crosby breathing down his throat. And I think it's important

697
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: to reference in that as well, is that you're missing

698
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler now. And a lot is made about his

699
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: ability as a receiver as kind of the safety valve

700
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: that checkdown, but what he as as a as an

701
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: extra protector, like throwing those chips that veteran savvy can

702
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: sound a little bit cliche, but that's really important. And

703
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: so when for guys like Jeremy McNichols or Bill Crosskey

704
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: Merrick who are going to be taking those snaps, are

705
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: they going to be able to help Josh Connery keep

706
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: either Jaden or Marcus upright. That's gonna be really important

707
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: for them because it's like David said, I mean, the

708
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: band's on it. It takes all five guys working together.

709
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: And Larimie Tunsel is great, Tyler Biadish is incredibly steady.

710
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: But all right, Josh Connelly, what what do you got?

711
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 3: Are you ready to take that next step? Brandon Coleman,

712
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: they're looking to rely on him and he's been had

713
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: kind of an up and down performance so far this year.

714
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: So really it's that offensive line, because it's hard to

715
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Speaker 3: get anything going if you don't have full trust in

716
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Speaker 3: that unit.

717
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Speaker 2: Excellent points, particularly with this stuff about Austin Eckler, like

718
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: you don't, like you said, you don't really think about

719
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: too much about him as a past expert. He is,

720
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: he's he's pretty solid in that regard and that's gonna

721
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: that's gonna have a rippling effect not just you know,

722
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: in the backfield, but also in the off the line,

723
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Speaker 2: in the entire unit as well.

724
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Speaker 1: David, your response, same question.

725
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, we've we've talked a good

726
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 4: amout about the secondary and then clearly all of us

727
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: think that the secondary has to have a better performance.

728
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: The only thing I'll add there is I think in

729
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: the red zone, you just got to put a guy

730
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: on top end underneath the Brock powers and you just

731
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: got to make someone else beat you, whether you know

732
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: Trey Tucker, ch Kobe Myers, Michael Meyer, like, no distructing

733
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Speaker 4: any of those guys, but none of those guys of

734
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: Brock Bowers. I'm okay with Geno trying to isolate one

735
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: of those guys or try to force it into Brock.

736
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Speaker 4: And that's when we talk about maybe you get one

737
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 4: of those opportunities for one of those interceptions. So you know,

738
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 4: we talked a lot about that. So I'm gonn double

739
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: down on the old line, but not just the old line,

740
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: just performance in general, the communication part of it. Right,

741
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 4: We talked about this understanding of your assignment or anything

742
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 4: else like that. Like Josh Connolly Junior, man, I love

743
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: the kid. I think is his future is bright thing.

744
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: He's got a lot of tools. He's gonna be fine eventually.

745
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's gonna be week three because

746
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 4: the thing in week two, what you saw a lot

747
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: was just a young guy just in the weeds.

748
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Man.

749
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: I just think that he was just in the bad stuff,

750
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. There's a different word we

751
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: use for it where I come from. But he was

752
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: in the bad stuff and there was just nothing bringing

753
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: him out of it. Because not only was he getting

754
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: beat in his one on ones, but when he did

755
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: have help. You know, there's several reps there where you

756
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: see them come off the line of scrimmage and Austin

757
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: neck but very clearly is coming to help his outside shoulder.

758
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: But Josh Connelly Junior oversets so much that the defender

759
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: beats both of them inside and it's like, dude, you

760
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: got to you gotta know where your help is. Right.

761
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: If your help is outside, then you kind of know

762
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: as a tackle you don't have to kick out as

763
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: much you can. Actually, it gives you a little bit

764
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: of excuse to kind of cheat a little bit and

765
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: not kick it. That's the whole point of having that

766
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: help there is is to cheat just a little bit, right,

767
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: And he's just so in the weeds man that he

768
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: just he's not even understanding where his help is. You know, look,

769
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: kudos to his teammates. Nobody's on the under the bus,

770
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: nobody's on the field yelling at him things like that.

771
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: You know, he's getting coached up on the sideline. But yeah,

772
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: I mean, like, those are the things, like you said, Liam,

773
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: like your first round draft pick, those are the things

774
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: that you have to be able to in the heat

775
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: of the battle do better. And I think that coming

776
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: away from Thursday night having time to digest it, like

777
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: it'll be a little bit easier in week three. But

778
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: I mean Max Crosby is a monster, you know what

779
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Like like that's not if that's not, and

780
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: he's gonna catch up either. And I think the good

781
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: news is Jeremy McNichols. I mean, we all go back

782
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati, right, But Jeremy McNichols is proven, like he's

783
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: a capable UH pass protector. He's he's gonna help if

784
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: if it's his job to help Josh Connolly, he's gonna help.

785
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez we know is a bowling ball. He's gonna

786
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: get out there and do it.

787
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Speaker 2: And Bill.

788
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything that Bill isn't gonna try

789
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: to do really hard. So they're gonna have good teammates, honestly,

790
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: you know, if you're Bobby Johnson and if you're if

791
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: you're just off the support your Cliff Kingsburgh, I don't

792
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe instead of telling that you know

793
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: that running back in the backfield, if you're gonna chip release,

794
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: instead of giving him assignment inside outside chip release, whatever

795
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: it is, just say hey, listen, just kind of hold

796
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: up just kind of stay in the backfield, see what

797
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: happens with Josh, react off of it and go you

798
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like, and that's kind of an

799
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: unorthodox way of doing it, and it's it's kind of

800
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: weird because if you have if he gets beat right

801
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 4: off the line, then you've got this bowling ball of

802
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: Max Crosby running at full speed at your running back.

803
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: So that's not gonna look great. But it's it's it's

804
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: and that's the predicament that a coach comes into, right,

805
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: It's like, how do we really fix this because it's

806
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: hard for like Cliff can't get in the head set

807
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: on second and six is hey, Josh, remember Austin's coming

808
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: to your right side, so make sure that you cheat

809
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: inside a little bit. That's just not how that works.

810
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that's like it's the it's

811
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: on the individual individual performance as well. But again, it

812
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 4: all comes back down to assignment football. Understand what your

813
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: assignment is, do your assignment, and usually things are going

814
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 4: to go right nine times at a time.

815
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Totally agree.

816
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: I agree Max Prowby is going to be that's going

817
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: to be a tough matchup for Connory and I'm interested

818
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: to see how he bounces back, because he's been a

819
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: guy who you you hear about a lot of good things,

820
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: but he doesn't make a lot of the same sake twice.

821
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 2: But again, three weeks of having guys like Abdul Carter

822
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: than Michael Parsons, then Max Crosby, it's tough. It's a

823
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: tough three games, prap for sure. I don't think you'll

824
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: you'll find a tougher stretch for the rest of the year.

825
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: But then the Falcons got a couple of young you know,

826
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 4: aggressive pass rushing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look James Pierce

827
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: making me eat a little bit of crow here. Early

828
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: in the season, I had bust written all over that, dude.

829
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: I mean it's still early, but yeah, he's he's balling

830
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: out a little bit too.

831
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. So man, final decision here, both

832
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: going with the old line? Oh man, I think you know,

833
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: I think I.

834
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: Gotta go with lady here because you mentioned the rippling

835
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: effects of like having guys like and you mentioned at first,

836
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: but having guys like Austin Eckler out and that's gonna

837
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: ripple effect for the route, for the offensive line and everything.

838
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent point because it does put

839
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: more pressure on that group. The group is trying to

840
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: figure it out still, and I'm sure they will. But

841
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: for now, Liam, you have won this episode. How do

842
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: you feel about that?

843
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Feel great?

844
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna use it to show our praise on

845
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: David Harrison one more time, because he talked about Josh

846
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: Connell being in the weeds, and the thing I kept

847
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: thinking about when I was watching that game bag is

848
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: I was thinking about sam Donold talking about seeing ghosts

849
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 3: against the Patriots when he was early in his career.

850
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking about, was like, man, Josh

851
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: Connell is gonna be thinking about about Michael Parsons and

852
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 3: seeing the ghost of Michael Parsons for quite some time.

853
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, shout out David Harrison. He's one of the

854
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: partest guys on the beat.

855
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

856
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: No, David did an excellent job. Here. We're like thirty

857
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: seconds away from this zoom any ending.

858
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: But I will say again, great job David, Great job William,

859
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: and be sure to rate, review, subscribe every use of

860
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: your podcast, guys, and this has been They'll be down.

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Speaker 4: H