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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From coast to coast am on

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Speaker 2: You have so much great content packed in this book,

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Speaker 2: but one of the highlights for me anyway was UFO night.

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Speaker 2: So tell us what happened, when it happened and how

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Speaker 2: widespread it was.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's her really a great case. Well around eight

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Speaker 3: o'clock on May ninety eighty six on a Monday, This

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Speaker 3: day would enter into the history of brazil authhology and

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Speaker 3: consequently worldwide as the official night of a UFOs year reserve. Well,

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Speaker 3: just to be clear, the brazil skies were invaded by

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Speaker 3: twenty two UFOs at the same time, starting in eight

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Speaker 3: o'clock in some is that composing San Paulo.

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Speaker 4: See the sitting.

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Speaker 3: When the flight controller at the city airport tower, the

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Speaker 3: second second Sergeant Sgio Mata, his spot is spotted two

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Speaker 3: luminous objects over the airport and from now on several

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Speaker 3: points objects, very very bright objects were seen over some Paolo,

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Speaker 3: over rear, over Brazilia, over miniatited States two and this

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Speaker 3: caused an unnatural alert and the Brazilian five jet fighters

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Speaker 3: dispatched it to then fight to get closer and and

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Speaker 3: then fight this object, and three of the five pilots

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Speaker 3: saw up in the sky, they saw the slides in

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Speaker 3: the sky. One of the part was Captain giordon we

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Speaker 3: have all this jo, you have all this dialogue, this

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Speaker 3: communication in the radio we have available on the national

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Speaker 3: archives in Brazil the public now. And Captain Giordano said, well,

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Speaker 3: I have now six UFOs in my left side and

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Speaker 3: seven UFOs on my right side, thirteen UFOs just chasing him,

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Speaker 3: not chasing, just go flying with him. And they when

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Speaker 3: they started to get closer of this ufo, this this

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Speaker 3: object just accelerate so fast that disappeared.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Persilian was using.

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Speaker 3: Two types of jets, the Mirage and the F five.

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Speaker 3: They are ultrasonica jets supersonica jets.

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Speaker 4: And the way they use the.

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Speaker 3: Turbo the maximum power, they get closer to the USLS,

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Speaker 3: but just like they playing cat and rat, their food

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Speaker 3: just accelerate and disappear. And so on occasions, the pilots

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Speaker 3: get contact with the towers in the ground and the

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Speaker 3: ask well and say I see nothing here in the sky.

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Speaker 3: But the controller said, well, you have ten UFOs above you,

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Speaker 3: but I cannot see the r above of you. And

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Speaker 3: this took from eight pm to four pm, more than

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Speaker 3: two hundred witnesses, including pilots, including.

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Speaker 4: Control to.

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Speaker 3: Controllers and the towers, and the people on the ground.

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Speaker 3: One of the witnesses saw a huge ufo to two

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Speaker 3: hundred meters wide. Utifol over I said, the Munchikia is

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Speaker 3: a mountain between some palin and h and euro And

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Speaker 3: then the day next the Ministry of the Brazilian Air

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Speaker 3: Force they colored a press conference and they put all

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Speaker 3: the five pilots in the table and the media in

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Speaker 3: front of them, and the media had the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: ask everything about the incident, and all the pallets are

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Speaker 3: allowed to speak what they want. And then well, we

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Speaker 3: saw what we saw is something that's not our plane.

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Speaker 3: It's not a plant, it is not a satellite. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing like that. There's no probe in ninet eighty six,

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Speaker 3: there's no startlink satellite in a space. And the conclusion

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Speaker 3: of the report, the brisilner first said, well, there's that

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Speaker 3: things were controlled by intelligence, type of intelligence. And we're

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Speaker 3: still now more than thirty years ago, we're still looking

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Speaker 3: for we're still looking for the official report of the

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Speaker 3: Brazilier Force promise to release and do we know George.

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Speaker 3: We know that at least one of the airplanes carried

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Speaker 3: a camera that filled the whole events, so we're still

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Speaker 3: looking for as always this still sure.

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Speaker 2: That just an incredible series of events. At least twenty

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Speaker 2: two UFOs flying over the country. Jets are scrambled, they

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Speaker 2: can't do much about them. There's at least one gigantic

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Speaker 2: mothership type UFO. I mean, if that had happened here,

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Speaker 2: it's worldwide dramatic. Who knows how our government would react.

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Speaker 2: And I'm surprised your government allowed the pilots to meet

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Speaker 2: with media. Are any of those aviators Are they still around?

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Speaker 2: Are they available to talk? If you tried to track

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I spoke with Captain Jo Down he can stick opening.

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Speaker 4: No, there's no problems.

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Speaker 3: Two of them are still flying, but now is in

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Speaker 3: a private companies, not in a Brisoner force anymore. And

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Speaker 3: three of them are retired, so they stake some of

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Speaker 3: the if you go there, if you catch them, they

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Speaker 4: But it's normal. Everybody knows them here in Brazil.

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Speaker 3: And they still saying the same same things.

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Speaker 4: We've no no worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just uh, it's amazing that the government just said, Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 2: they're here, we don't know what they are kind of

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Speaker 2: a thing. And uh there have been so many other

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Speaker 2: dramatic cases there that where they have not been very forthright.

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Speaker 2: Virgina is one I mentioned about James Fox that film.

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Speaker 2: But Virginia is a case that you have investigated where

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Speaker 2: the witnesses say they saw an alien being and it

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Speaker 2: came out of what sounds like a UFO crash. Can

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Speaker 2: you give us the broad strokes about that case and

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Speaker 2: and what your take is on it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Virginia, just make a line Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Could it be the Brazilian Rosevel? For me? The case

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Speaker 4: that I love is Rosso. I love Rooseve.

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Speaker 3: I have many books for Rovo. I know Olschmith and

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Speaker 3: cap't Handle. I knew set of Freedom, and so I

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Speaker 3: loved this case. And Virginia was.

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Speaker 4: Can be.

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Speaker 3: Can be bigger than orl though, because it happened in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six when i UFU crashed in vision in

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Speaker 3: Virginia of the city of me in a United States

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Speaker 3: in Brazil, a crash aircraft crashed in Virginia and at

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Speaker 3: least five creatures were captured, three of them dead, two

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Speaker 3: of them alive. Some say that at least twelve creatures

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Speaker 3: were seen. There eight creatures and after this this crash,

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Speaker 3: the city of Virginia reported people in the very reported

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Speaker 3: a lot of UFOs in the sky, just like you know,

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Speaker 3: searching the UFO the crash.

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Speaker 4: Or the entities that was there.

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Speaker 3: But the entity that was seen was very different of

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Speaker 3: everything I ever heard in a in a idient typology.

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Speaker 3: It was a small creature, uh perhaps a miter and

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Speaker 3: of high. It was brown skin, oiled brown skin, a

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Speaker 3: big red eyes and three you know, three things in

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Speaker 3: some say it could be a horns. And the the

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Speaker 3: firefighters in Brazil they captured one.

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Speaker 3: They using annett they captured one.

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Speaker 4: But the most.

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Speaker 3: Famous part of the Virginia was the the triggirls that

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Speaker 3: saw one of the alien crouched in the wall catch

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Speaker 3: Aliliani in the Valcyia the most optioned Mogan was sixteen

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Speaker 3: and the Valcio was fourteen. At the time, they were

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Speaker 3: returning from work when they crossed a vack in the

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Speaker 3: lot located they saw something.

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Speaker 4: That they never forget.

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Speaker 3: They saw the creature and the girls said, well, we

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Speaker 3: were scared. We thought it was a man, a demon,

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Speaker 3: but the creature was so afraid. You can see in

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Speaker 3: And the girls running away, went home and called the

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Speaker 4: Went to the place.

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Speaker 3: And these smells like a suffer a smell in that place.

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Speaker 3: And from there the military of Brazil were involved, the

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Speaker 3: firefighters of Virginia were involved, and they captured the creatures.

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Speaker 3: And this in this during these days three four days,

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Speaker 3: many of the people saw the creatures just like the

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Speaker 3: girls was saw and uh, well, we're things just start

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Speaker 3: to happen. The NASA said, the crew to Brazil to

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Speaker 3: Virginia to sign a protocol of intention of research. And

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Speaker 3: one of one bigger plane just landed in Virginia Airport,

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Speaker 3: Virginia reports a very small airport. And I get information

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Speaker 3: that this airplane was from the United States.

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Speaker 4: And the people said that they put.

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Speaker 3: A lot of boxes, big boxes and small boxes inside

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Speaker 3: the plane and the plane took off. Since that day,

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Speaker 3: we like Brazilian Commission Orpology CBO, we're trying.

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Speaker 4: To get information about what happened.

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Speaker 3: And the army, the Brazilian army that was involved, they said, well,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing. Was a person that has a problem, that.

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Speaker 4: The girls saw the persons problems or no, there was

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Speaker 3: So the since nineteen ninety six, there's still hiding something.

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Speaker 3: We are sure here the Virgin Apology, we are sure.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that the creatures and the aircraft was sent.

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Speaker 3: Were sent to the United States. And just to close

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Speaker 3: this resummath after that, the United States just gave to

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Speaker 3: Brazil the opportunity to send the first Brasion astronauts to

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Speaker 3: this So we change it alien and UFO to a

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Speaker 1: You think that's what the deal was.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think so.

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Speaker 4: Not the Brazilian astronauts.

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Speaker 3: Now the Senator him result, he's very, very interest smart

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Speaker 3: and the capable person to be in a space. When

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Speaker 3: I think that this episode accelerate it, you know, just like,

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Speaker 3: well you.

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Speaker 4: Gave me this, I give you that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen the you know, the witnesses, I

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Speaker 2: saw James's film about it and the interviews with the

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Speaker 2: witnesses and the likeness the drawings that were made based

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Speaker 2: on the testimony for my witnesses. There's even a model

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Speaker 2: model of that alien being cowering next to a wall,

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Speaker 2: profoundly sad to see it. If that's real, if that's accurate. Uh,

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Speaker 2: this creature had from somewhere else. It crashed, and all

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Speaker 2: the other it's co pilots are dead, and there it

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Speaker 2: somewhere else. It just uh affected me in a sort

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we have uh, well we have a very

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Speaker 3: uh a military that was dead after touching the creature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the military guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he was a police intelligence service. He touched

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Speaker 3: the creature without without the globes, and just one day,

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Speaker 4: He died, and there's no explanation.

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Speaker 3: Was an infection, general general infection, but from what.

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Speaker 4: No one never knows of us.

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Speaker 3: There's a controversy here in Brazil, so saying oh he

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Speaker 3: had already a disease oh, he was a good health

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Speaker 4: Died.

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Speaker 3: Here in Brazil, we still have this controversy about the

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Speaker 3: guy the dead of shareds. So we're still looking for it. Jeorge,

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Speaker 3: it's very difficult here in Brazil to get information about

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Speaker 3: the Virginia. We have now we have now more than

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Speaker 3: well almost a hundred of witnesses that saw something or

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Speaker 3: know something or heard of her about Virginia, and we're

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Speaker 3: still looking for this information. In the film of James

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Speaker 3: Fox was brilliant because they found witnesses very important of

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Speaker 3: the case. And I do not do any spoiler, but

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Speaker 3: one of the witnesses just almost shut them, shut them

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Speaker 3: down if they cross, they're the house. So I think

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Speaker 3: that we still have still have something.

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Speaker 4: A lot of things to know about Version the Cave.

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Speaker 2: And so we have a minute before we go to

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Speaker 2: a break. But your take on it, after doing the

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Speaker 2: boots on the groundwork, talking to witnesses, digging for documents,

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Speaker 2: working sources, that this is legit, that there was a crash,

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Speaker 2: that there were at least two live beings for a

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Speaker 2: time along with several other bodies, that the US sent

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Speaker 2: a big plane and scooped it all up and took

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Speaker 2: it away. You think that's real.

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Speaker 4: I think it's real. I think it's real.

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Speaker 3: What they where they come from the creatures and the before,

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Speaker 3: we don't know.

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Speaker 4: But this, this story is real. The story is real.

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