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Speaker 1: podcast presented by Microsoft. I'm excited about my guest to

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Speaker 1: kick this one off. I got Charles Harris, defensive end,

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Speaker 1: the leading sacker for the Detroit Lions last year, and Charles,

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Speaker 1: I want to start right away with this. So you're

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Speaker 1: to begin your career. You come here. You signed with

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Speaker 1: then what happens? You prove it right? You lead the

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Speaker 1: The team rewards you. You signed a two year, thirteen

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Speaker 1: you know, when the backups and the and the reserves

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Speaker 1: come in Friday night. Yeah, there's a number of guys

428
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Speaker 1: that are going to be heavily featured in that second half.

429
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,679
Speaker 1: I think a guy that falcon that I'm sorry that

430
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: Lions fans should really keep an eye on is a guy.

431
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 1: He's a former University of Florida, former University of Arkansas

432
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 1: quarterback Phelipe Franks. Right, He's a quarterback by trade who's

433
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 1: been playing tight end throughout camp, except this week he's

434
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: also taking reps as the number three quarterback because Atlanta

435
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: has Marcus Desmond and then Franks, who again is mostly

436
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 1: a tight end. So you could see Franks in the

437
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 1: quarter play tight end and in the fourth quarter play quarterback,

438
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: and I think that that's going to be a fascinating development.

439
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: He's a really athletic guy. He comes out for a

440
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 1: few periods and he looks pretty good. But so if

441
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 1: Lions fans look at your program and you're like, wait,

442
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 1: why is a tight end behind center right now? That's

443
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: why they need him in those emergency situations. I think

444
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fascinating to keep an eye on him.

445
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 1: And just one more guy, just really quickly. Running back

446
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: Tyler Alger fifth round pick out of Brigham Young is

447
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: one of those big bowling ball tough is going to

448
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: smack you and test that Lions defensive front yards after

449
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 1: contact guy. We've been waiting to see him play live

450
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: football for a long time. He's a big, tough bruiser,

451
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to test and tax those

452
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: Lions fighting for those roster spots. That front seven is

453
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: going to have to be ready come the third end,

454
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Oh it sounds great, Scott. I'm excited for

455
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: football to finally be here. We start to get kind

456
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: of that that step toward the regular season. This year

457
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: we see some position battles and some guys play football,

458
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: especially the young guys for the first time. It should

459
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 1: be fun. You, my friend, be safe traveling uphill up here,

460
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 1: and we'll get together before the game. Looking forward to it.

461
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: Can't wait. Welcome back to the twentyman in the Huddled Podcast.

462
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: My next guest needs no introduction at all. He is

463
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer Barry Sanders and Barry. Before we

464
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Speaker 1: get going into all this football stuff, I've got something

465
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Speaker 1: I have to ask you. A little birdie told me

466
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: a story about you. Well, you're playing days ye, another

467
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: story a little birdie, a little birdie. It was good.

468
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: You guys lose obviously in nineteen ninety five to the

469
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in the playoffs. The next season, you guys

470
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: are in Philadelphia, Week three, I think it is, and

471
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: you score a couple of late touchdowns, and this little

472
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: birdie told me you were always a guy right that

473
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: handed the ball off to the referee. You never spiked it,

474
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: never did anything. But a little birdie told me that

475
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: in that Philadelphia game, after your second touchdown, there might

476
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: have been an attempted spike that maybe slipped out of

477
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Speaker 1: your hands. Is this a true statement? Is this false?

478
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: Was I miss led? Were you gonna actually spike it?

479
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: You really hiked up that game? Yeah, I think I've

480
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: talked to the same birdie. I think I've talked to

481
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: the same birdie. Um. And I mean I haven't seen

482
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: the footage, right, you know so obviously you know film

483
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: doesn't lie, you know, So I mean I don't I

484
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 1: don't remember the specific momentum. I'm glad. I'm glad I

485
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: got got to the end zone and scored. And I

486
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 1: think it was one of those kind of win up

487
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: and it slipped out of your hands. It looked like

488
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: you were gonna take that time to finally to finally

489
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: spike one. It just never happened. It could be some

490
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: truth to it. I'm gonna let the little birdie know.

491
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: I know, you know who who we're talking about. Um,

492
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: you know what. I also saw the TikTok with you

493
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: the other day from the Lions. You still you can

494
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: still you like that? I liked it. Yeahs shake a

495
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 1: little bit so behind this offensive line and obviously one

496
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: of the strengths for the Detroit Lions. You think you

497
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: could get one hundred yards still behind this offensive line, well,

498
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: I don't know that I could get one hundred yards,

499
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: but I would certainly be excited to run behind them anytime. Absolutely, man.

500
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you can put together a group like this,

501
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, and you know that ranks that high in

502
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: this league. Um, you know, then then you know you

503
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: got a fighting chance. Um, you know. And so yeah,

504
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: everyone's excited about what we're gonna do this year, and

505
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: certainly that starts with what is upfront. And speaking of upfront,

506
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: you know Kevin Glover, the Pro Bowl center from the

507
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: time that you played. You know, it's one of your

508
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: close friends on the team and obviously a really great player.

509
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: Just what does it mean when especially that center position

510
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: and the Lions have Frank Ragnall, Pro Bowl player, one

511
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: of the best in the league. When you've got that

512
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: position in particular kind of established with a consistent Pro

513
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber guy you ran behind one, you played with one,

514
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: just what does that mean for the offense, for the

515
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: offensive line, just the whole operation. Well, for me, I

516
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: think it just creates such a great ripple effect throughout

517
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: your offense, right, um, because you know obviously that that's

518
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: where it all starts, That's where you know, that's where

519
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: defenses are are really first trying to attack. UM. You know,

520
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: so if you're you're strong up the middle, like like

521
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: we are and like I was um with Kevin Glover. Uh,

522
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 1: it makes all the difference in the world. UM, you know.

523
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: And so UM again, you know what this offense is

524
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: trying to do this this season, UM, some of what

525
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: we saw last year. You know, the promising signs. Um.

526
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: You know it starts with that guy. UM. And it's

527
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: such a great just sort of stabilizing force. UM. You

528
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: know with um you know, really throughout your your your team,

529
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: but certainly your offense. So UM. So yeah, I mean, UM,

530
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: you can't talk enough about how important it is, um.

531
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Speaker 1: You know, having a guy at that position that can

532
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: handle his own in the trenches in today's football. And

533
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: then we you get out wider, right, you got Taylor Decker,

534
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: who's consistently a top ten left tackle in this league.

535
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Penny Soul, we saw what he did. I think he's

536
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: trending toward a Pro Bowl sooner rather than later. Jonah

537
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: Jackson was a Pro Bowler last year, and Big V

538
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: was only the starting left tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles

539
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl and it's just a

540
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: collection of veteran guys. Is this from you know, in

541
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: your opinion, one of the best offensive lines potentially this

542
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: team has ever kind of assembled. Oh? Absolutely. And and

543
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you look at all your successful teams, You look at

544
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: your teams that are making deep playoff runs and you

545
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: always hear um you know the names of those linemen

546
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: that are on those teams and how valuable they are.

547
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: And you know, you got to have a left tackle

548
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: and you got to solidify things up front. And so yeah,

549
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: if if this group can stay healthy this season, then

550
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: I think the Lions are gonna be dangerous. You mentioned

551
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: the statistics from last year. It was over eighteen hundred

552
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: yards rushing, they average four point four yards carry, and

553
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: had twelve touch on Berry. They hadn't had those three

554
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: numbers since nineteen ninety eight when you were tolding the rock. Well,

555
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: it's been a long time for those kind of numbers,

556
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: that kind of consistency. And when you've got an offensive

557
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: line like we just talked about, but then you got

558
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift to right, a guy coming into his third year,

559
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: just what are your expectations for him? Now, he's obviously

560
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: got to stay healthy, but we just saw the explosiveness

561
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: with him that one cut and gone and that big

562
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: play in that body. Just what's your expectations for him

563
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: going into his third season. Yeah, I expect for him

564
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: really to just build on what he's done. Um, we

565
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: know that he's made the jump the leap from college

566
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: to pro nicely. He's he's a weapon out of the backfield,

567
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the kind of guy you want

568
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: to get an open space. He's shown what he can do.

569
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: So you would think that, especially in our division, he

570
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: should be at the top of the list, you know,

571
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: competing you know with guys like Dalvin Cook and the

572
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: Montgomery kid in Chicago, um, you know, and and obviously

573
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, um, Aaron Jones and in his backup

574
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: had a great year last year as well, So he

575
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: should he should be writing that that mix, um you know,

576
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and and be a great weapon for this offense. He's

577
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to, you know. You would think at year

578
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: three he can he can carry a lot of the

579
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: lott running and and obviously out of the backfield. Um,

580
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's a three down back. Uh

581
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: and so uh and so yeah, that's that's what I'm

582
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to in County. Know, that's a more

583
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: newer term, right that the three down back. Now you

584
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: mentioned guys like Dalvin Cook, right, you look at the

585
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamaras and and DeAndre before the shoulder injury on

586
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving was leading all running backs in receptions. And that's

587
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: become such a weapon now in the NFL. That wasn't

588
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: so much back in your day. There were guys Thurman

589
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: and and some of those guys Ladamian that were they

590
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: were catching you know, footballs, but it wasn't as league

591
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: wagen as consistent as it is now. Just how is

592
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: that kind of evolved too from the running back position,

593
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: that that that's really just become such a weapon in

594
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: the past game in today's NFL. Yeah, I mean, it's

595
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: it's just really the reality of today's game. Um, it's

596
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: the way that it's played, you know, um in most

597
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: colleges you know, and and uh certainly league wide. Um.

598
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, you have to have a guy that understand

599
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: the passing game, you know, from the backfield backfield position, uh,

600
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: and be ready to run routes, um, you know, and

601
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: understand you know, the route tree and all those things,

602
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: all those concepts. So and hey, DeAndre. He's done a

603
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: great job so far of doing that. Um, there's no

604
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: reason why you can't continue to build on that. But yeah,

605
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: in today's game, um, you know, there there are a

606
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: few guys like Derrick Henry who you know, he's he's

607
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: not thrown a lot of routes out of the backfield, Um,

608
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Johnson Taylor, you know, and guys like that, but most

609
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: guys certainly have to have that as a part of

610
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: their game. Could you imagine you playing in today's NFL

611
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: now where it's all about just trying to get into

612
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: space right, right, and it's a matchup game, right, So

613
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: why you see these tight ends and these running backs

614
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: doing all this? Could you even imagine if you're an

615
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: innovative young coach and you've got Barry Sanders, now, what

616
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: you can do in the open field. How many balls

617
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: do you think if you're playing in today's game would

618
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: you catch in a year? I mean, if I'm coach,

619
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get you the ball all the time, right,

620
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in space. I love to I like, yeah,

621
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: I love catching, you know, catching, running whatever way it takes, um,

622
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, but yeah, but that that certainly

623
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: would be much more part of my game. Um and

624
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: today you know, if I were playing in today's game,

625
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: and I always thought I had pretty decent hands, you know,

626
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: and and uh you know so uh so, yeah, I

627
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: would I would be excited about that challenge. This is

628
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: what you would be. I would love to see that.

629
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: I would love to do it. Um, real quick, before

630
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: we before we end up, just Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes,

631
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: they're entering you know, year two, Um, just your impressions

632
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: of Obviously the record wasn't what it was supposed to be,

633
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: but they were playing much better, better football the second

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: half of the season last year. I'm just curious where

635
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: you think this has headed, the culture being built, and

636
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: just from you talking, I know you were at practice

637
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: this we talking with Brad for a while and Dan

638
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Just your impressions of them and kind

639
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: of what what you hope for in year two of

640
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: this regime. Yeah, I mean for um, for coach Campbell,

641
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: um and for Brad. I think they're right on schedule.

642
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think they from day one they had

643
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: a plan, um, you know what they wanted to execute

644
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: when they got here. They know, they knew we had

645
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: a very young team, you know, and and so UM,

646
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, they were looking obviously for the normal measurables,

647
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: but they were also looking looking for, you know, certain

648
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: types of players, um, who had a certain grit you

649
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: know who um, you know, who wanted to who who

650
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: are going to fight from the beginning to end, you know.

651
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: And so I think I think the pictures coming together

652
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: for them the way they thought it would. They understand,

653
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: you know that this league, um, you know, in in

654
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: in today's league, you really you really have to construct

655
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: your roster, you know, a certain way. Um you know.

656
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: And and um again they you know, we were one

657
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the league last year. UM,

658
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: you know. And and UM you know, I said, I

659
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: was talking to both of those guys, and they they

660
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: love obviously you know this uh, this year's version. Uh,

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: this year's you know, ninety guys in camp. Uh you know. UM,

662
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: and they see the big difference between this year's ninety

663
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to last year's ninety guys. Um. And we'll

664
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: see what happens over the coming weeks. But I think

665
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: for them, and then you know, you got to talk about, um,

666
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: you got to talk about I mean, gosh, the draft

667
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: that we had this year, Uh, just amazing. It's like

668
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: last year's too. Absolutely really good guys, and that question,

669
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: it's about you putting them together right, stat getting pennies,

670
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: getting m got to do. It's getting Aiden's and Jamo's

671
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: and that's what since he did, which is what since

672
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: he did? Yeah? Which is what since he did? You know?

673
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: Uh and so and so. Yeah. I think things are

674
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: moving right along for them. Um. They understand that this

675
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: year we've got to see great improvement. Um. But I

676
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: feel like more than any recent years, this year is

677
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: really up for grabs in our division with all the

678
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: changes and things that have happened. So I'm really really

679
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: excited for To your point about the roster too, you know,

680
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: I think there's some guys on this ninety that get

681
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: cut and they're going to land somewhere and they're going

682
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: to be productive for other teams. And that's what you

683
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: want to try to get the roster too, right, and

684
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: that's what you want to build. Where you're getting you're

685
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: having to make tough decisions on guys who can play

686
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: in this league and help other teams. It's just doesn't

687
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: fit for you. And to your point, I think They're

688
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: definitely in a much better situation there. Barry, I appreciate

689
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: you taking this time. Thanks so much. He is the

690
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: legend Barry Sanders, thanks buddy to get it great. We

691
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: can catch up