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Speaker 3: And it's ten am on a Tuesday. So what does
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Speaker 3: inside the SWBC podcast studio as Tampa Bay Week has
Speaker 3: begun for us here on mix shots, Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 3: and Mickey Spagnola. We are just very proud of the
Speaker 3: fact that we all remembered that we are two hours
Speaker 3: early today.
Speaker 4: We had to turn our right, that's right, Yes, get
Speaker 4: us out of our routine, yep.
Speaker 3: And so there's luck to get too. After a full
Speaker 3: weekend of NFL games, including two Monday night games last
Speaker 3: night that looked like better matchups probably if they'd been
Speaker 3: in September than December. But here we are. We move
Speaker 3: on to week number sixteen and the Cowboys still have
Speaker 3: playoff hopes.
Speaker 5: They had us, they actually had us, they put in
Speaker 5: the hunt.
Speaker 3: Hunt. Still we're back in the hunt after one win, and.
Speaker 2: The Saints are under us.
Speaker 5: We're second to last and the Saints last, moving on up,
Speaker 5: moving on up.
Speaker 2: But I tell you.
Speaker 4: The Saints still have a chance.
Speaker 2: I think they're like five and seven something.
Speaker 3: Just because of their division. Maybe if if Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4: Loses out, they're five and nine, so they're three games
Speaker 4: back with three to go there.
Speaker 3: So that's why they're still technically.
Speaker 4: In it, and they probably to play like the Cowboys
Speaker 4: sound to.
Speaker 3: But we figured out the path, and what helped on
Speaker 3: the path was Atlanta winning last night. You want to
Speaker 3: root for Atlanta. You wanted Atlanta to keep on keeping
Speaker 3: on because you wanted Atlanta to be up there at
Speaker 3: least tied with Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4: You want them to get You want them to win
Speaker 4: the win is division, right, Otherwise they've got to lose.
Speaker 3: Because you lost to Atlanta. You don't want to be
Speaker 3: involved in any sort of tiebreaker that.
Speaker 4: Included you basically have to lose.
Speaker 3: They need to get ahead of or at least even
Speaker 3: with Tampa Bay because they beat Tampa Bay twice, so
Speaker 3: they have the tiebreaker on them for the division, right,
Speaker 3: and as it plays out here, the Atlanta success helps you.
Speaker 3: Now obviously the Cowboys have to win out, but and
Speaker 3: a win over Tampa Bay helps Atlanta's cause too. But Washington,
Speaker 3: they play Philadelphia this week and then they play Atlanta,
Speaker 3: and so if Atlanta will keep winning games, that helps
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. And you just want to get to that
Speaker 3: last week where you have a chance to catch Washington.
Speaker 3: And that's without regard to what happens in the West.
Speaker 3: You need help out there too.
Speaker 4: Well the way, uh, I wouldn't a step further on
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So, yes, you don't want to end
Speaker 4: up in a tie with Atlanta. If you end up
Speaker 4: win a tie with Washington, which means they got to
Speaker 4: lose out and you got to win out and you'll
Speaker 4: have the time, you'll have the tie breaker if they
Speaker 4: also need Seattle to lose two games if they're a
Speaker 4: wild card team, right, so if the Rams win the West,
Speaker 4: then so.
Speaker 3: You want the Rams to go ahead and go ahea business,
Speaker 3: take care business went on out Rams.
Speaker 4: If the Cowboys end up in a tie at nine
Speaker 4: and eight with Seattle and Arizona, they win the tiebreaker
Speaker 4: on a on the basis of a better NFC record.
Speaker 3: In Washington would be included.
Speaker 4: In that right and Washington you would win head to
Speaker 4: head right.
Speaker 3: But the but if there's a four way tie.
Speaker 4: Oh, you mean a four way tie for that last.
Speaker 3: Spot, right, because that was you're gonna the best you
Speaker 3: can do is tie Washington. But so you got to
Speaker 3: look at it first. You have to look at a way.
Speaker 4: And you would beat Washington on NFC record, but.
Speaker 3: You don't get to that until you get it in
Speaker 3: a head to head tiebreaker with them. So here first
Speaker 3: you got it, but first you got to win the
Speaker 3: multi team tiebreaker. And so to your point, they have
Speaker 3: a better conference. Cowboys would have a better conference record
Speaker 3: than any combination of Dallas, Washington and the West teams.
Speaker 4: Correct, because the best that helps clarify things because if
Speaker 4: Seattle and Arizona don't get to ten wins, then they're
Speaker 4: going to end up five and seven and four and
Speaker 4: eight in the NFC, and the Cowboys could end up
Speaker 4: seven and five. So that's the tiebreaker that would go forward.
Speaker 4: But you would need none of those teams to get
Speaker 4: to ten wins because the Cowboys can't get ten right, right.
Speaker 3: And so in order to do that for Seattle, which
Speaker 3: is eight and six right now, they need to lose
Speaker 3: two of their last three games and their final three
Speaker 3: opponents are Minnesota, which they will not be favored in,
Speaker 3: at Chicago, which they would be favored, and at the Rams,
Speaker 3: which they probably would not be favored.
Speaker 4: Before they can beat Chicago's okay.
Speaker 3: They're fine beating Chicago. They just need to lose to
Speaker 3: Minnesota and Rams. And as far as Arizona, which is
Speaker 3: at seven and seven right now, they're at Carolina, would
Speaker 3: say that's a win. That's eight and seven. Then they
Speaker 3: are at the Rams, make that a loss. They're eight
Speaker 3: and eight, and then they finish against San Francisco and
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter then, right, So they just need to
Speaker 3: lose one of their last three.
Speaker 4: Right, and you have to make sure that nobody gets
Speaker 4: to ten wins, because the Cowboys sure not get the ten.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's actually doable, it is, it really is doable.
Speaker 4: As Mike and the problem.
Speaker 3: The biggest issue in this whole scenario, I think the
Speaker 3: biggest issue is Dallas winning three games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to beat Tampa Bay and they
Speaker 4: have not done well against teams with winning records. And
Speaker 4: then you've got to go on the road and beat
Speaker 4: Philadehiladelphia which has a which.
Speaker 3: By the way, now has even though the division is
Speaker 3: likely theirs, although they still haven't wrapped it up. Of
Speaker 3: course they they're in the for the for the first
Speaker 3: round by still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they can't say, oh, that game doesn't matter
Speaker 4: to us because they want that first round. It's Dallas too,
Speaker 4: and it's and it's it's Dallas. And with Detroit in
Speaker 4: Minnesota now tied at twelve and two, uh and Philadelphia
Speaker 4: is twelve and two. So yeah, that first So.
Speaker 3: We have what we've done here ever since is we
Speaker 3: have cleared a path. Okay, the the road is narrow,
Speaker 3: and by the way, the gate is small, and the
Speaker 3: road is narrow, and the lightest twilight.
Speaker 5: It's a doggy door. There's no gate. It's a doggy door.
Speaker 5: I can see us trying to get through that hole.
Speaker 4: But yeah you can. As McCarthy said yesterday when it
Speaker 4: was brought up, Yeah, we talked to the team about it.
Speaker 4: They I mean, we know, But what I know is
Speaker 4: we got to beat Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: They don't need to get into the mood. We just
Speaker 3: got it, really, but they just need to know they
Speaker 3: got to keep within.
Speaker 4: As I wrote, the if you look at the big picture,
Speaker 4: it would be overwhelming. You got to just take snapshots.
Speaker 2: Yes, well they say one body of the time, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, And having said all of that, the Cowboys play
Speaker 3: on Sunday night against Tampa Bay. And in order for
Speaker 3: that game to mean something, yes, they need Washington to
Speaker 3: lose to Philadelphia on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Okay, doable?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're you're an Eagle fan on Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 3: So Washington otherwise they're eliminated.
Speaker 4: You realize Washington doesn't have an easy road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, got it.
Speaker 4: They have to either beat Philadelphia, Atlanta or Dallas. And
Speaker 4: beating Atlanta after watching last night may not be too difficult.
Speaker 3: But that's the Kirk Kirk Cousins homecoming games last.
Speaker 4: Home another level of motivation.
Speaker 3: His last homecoming game to Minnesota did not work out
Speaker 3: well for.
Speaker 5: Can you guys realize how many what what slim hopes
Speaker 5: that we're grabbing for? God, it's so slim. First of all,
Speaker 5: Tampa is a good team, that's right, they really are.
Speaker 5: I mean it's going a lot of points. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 5: is I mean, he's just the guy to be wreckon with.
Speaker 2: That's just all of is to it. Uh, such a long.
Speaker 5: Way from Carolina to now, right, he was just out
Speaker 5: there just winging it in Carolina for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even longer way from Cleveland, you know.
Speaker 5: Uh Beckham and is getting into arguments with everybody and
Speaker 5: fighting with him and and now he just gets under
Speaker 5: a regime that's you know for really experienced coaches.
Speaker 2: Who who's the offensive coordinators?
Speaker 3: Who did they because Dave Kanalis was there, Let me
Speaker 3: look up real quick, clearly, I haven't done my research
Speaker 3: yet on Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, because first of all, you're dealing with
Speaker 5: a got to be a future Hall of Fame at
Speaker 5: Mike Evans. That kid is really good. He's dogged. Of course,
Speaker 5: we've seen him before. We know what he can do
Speaker 5: and can't do.
Speaker 4: But they lost some wide receivers, right, if I remember, well.
Speaker 3: They lost it was in that game they were trying
Speaker 3: to come back and Chris Godwin got the final two
Speaker 3: minutes of that game. Liam Cohen is our offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: and he is spent some time with Sean McVay with
Speaker 3: the Rams. He was the Kentucky offensive coordinator in college
Speaker 3: and then went to the Rams and went back to
Speaker 3: Kentucky and so he was hired. But he was hired
Speaker 3: to replace Dave Canalos who's now at Carolina the head coach.
Speaker 4: So and having said that, with the amount of points
Speaker 4: they've been scoring, let's see on this see if they
Speaker 4: have the points here for Tampa Bay. They have scored
Speaker 4: four hundred and three points so far in the NFC.
Speaker 4: That ranks second behind Detroit, behind Detroit four h three
Speaker 4: Detroit's four point fifty nine. And by the way, no
Speaker 4: other team in the NFC has scored four hundred points.
Speaker 4: And here comes the Cowboys chugging along at two ninety eight.
Speaker 4: That's twenty points a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just about.
Speaker 3: But they're coming off their Tampa Bay's coming off a
Speaker 3: game in which they fell behind seventeen to ten against
Speaker 3: the Chargers and then they rattled off thirty straight points
Speaker 3: to end the game.
Speaker 5: So you know, I didn't really see the first half
Speaker 5: of that game. Only the second half is what really
Speaker 5: stands out. And what you see is a quarterback like
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield who really has a feel for this offense.
Speaker 5: I don't really care who's playing. I guess the strength
Speaker 5: of their team has to be their offensive line because
Speaker 5: he's able to negotiat in the pocket very well. They
Speaker 5: keep him from getting into a lot of trouble, not
Speaker 5: nearly the mistakes and turnovers that Baker Mayfield has been
Speaker 5: known for in the past. And that is a problem
Speaker 5: because when you get him outside the pocket, he's just
Speaker 5: as dangerous as any other quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And what my memory is of him with Cleveland was
Speaker 3: he was running for his life all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: which was which to your point, when he gets out
Speaker 3: of the pocket, he makes plays whatever, which is what
Speaker 3: he did in college because he'd be running for his
Speaker 3: life and he'd make a play and all the all
Speaker 3: the time. And I think he figured out that what
Speaker 3: worked in college doesn't work in the NFL a lot
Speaker 3: of times. That's what he figured out in Cleveland. And
Speaker 3: then it continued at Carolina. And then after one practice
Speaker 3: with Sean McVay with the Rams, all of a sudden
Speaker 3: it clicked for it. And now, how about if he
Speaker 3: didn't ever get.
Speaker 2: That that was the way this first game is, only.
Speaker 3: It was like a Thursday game. He arrived on a
Speaker 3: national It was he arrived on Tuesday, and he had
Speaker 3: to play on Thursdays. And he won the game, and
Speaker 3: that one moment in time just resurrected his career. And
Speaker 3: then he bet on himself after that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he.
Speaker 5: Knew he was with a good coach. He knew he
Speaker 5: was with a good coach who knew how to take
Speaker 5: advantage of his lively own.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at.
Speaker 5: Bacer Mayfield easily call him Matt Stafford. You could easily
Speaker 5: call him Stafford. I mean they play the same, they
Speaker 5: have the same you know, little tricks with the ball
Speaker 5: and ways to get rid of the ball. Brett fav
Speaker 5: like stuff, same thing.
Speaker 4: I think it was the second coming of the victory
Speaker 4: of the uncluttered mind. He didn't know anything. He just
Speaker 4: went out and played.
Speaker 3: And but even for Sean mc sean McVay saw that
Speaker 3: in him, you know. And so then just like he
Speaker 3: did in college, he bet on himself after he was
Speaker 3: at Texas Tech. Okay, Patrick Mahomes is there comes in
Speaker 3: right after him. In fact, he I think he so
Speaker 3: he was a non scholarship player, and Cliff Kingsbury wouldn't
Speaker 3: give him a scholarship because he had this guy named
Speaker 3: Mahomes that was going to be their guy. So then
Speaker 3: he transfers and walks on at Oklahoma and has to
Speaker 3: back then Lo and behold, you had to sit out
Speaker 3: a year even as a non scholarship player at both
Speaker 3: places that you're at. And he was playing intermural football
Speaker 3: and winning on the intermural football field at Ou and
Speaker 3: and Bob Stoops tells the story, he looks.
Speaker 2: Like he's still out there playing in football.
Speaker 3: But even at Tech his true freshman year, he started
Speaker 3: like five games at Tech and but then didn't get
Speaker 3: a scholarship, and so he bet on himself and went
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma, and even with you know what they had
Speaker 3: at quarterback whatever you know, they he wins the job
Speaker 3: and becomes a starter for three years there and Kyler
Speaker 3: Murray has to sit on the bench behind for a
Speaker 3: full year.
Speaker 4: So when he went to Oklahoma, did he go as
Speaker 4: a walk on or a scholarship?
Speaker 3: He was a walk on. Stoops didn't even know who
Speaker 3: he was when he walked into.
Speaker 2: His office or.
Speaker 4: Hitting asked for n I L money back.
Speaker 3: Then right right, so and so then after that stint
Speaker 3: with the Rams, then he bet on himself again and
Speaker 3: signs with Tampa Bay and then one season leads him
Speaker 3: follows the greatest quarterback in the history of the game
Speaker 3: and send them to the playoffs and then he gets
Speaker 3: a bigger deal. You want to add an Now he's
Speaker 3: working on a bigger deal.
Speaker 4: You want to add another layer to that concern. No digs,
Speaker 4: No Butler and Owaria and Lewis did not finish the game,
Speaker 4: so they could be without could be. We'll find out
Speaker 4: probably a little bit more tomorrow. They're top four current
Speaker 4: or four of their top five current cornerbacks having to
Speaker 4: go up against everything. Bill just said, better get a
Speaker 4: hell of a pass rush.
Speaker 3: I'm going back to see those two corners that those
Speaker 3: two dbs that they signed to the practice.
Speaker 2: Squad, well, you're gonna have to.
Speaker 3: D d Delaney and Troy Pride were signed to the
Speaker 3: practice squad a week ago. And by the way, they
Speaker 3: also signed it. I like this signing to the practice
Speaker 3: squad last week. Brayden Daniels offensive guard. Uh. He was
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick of Washington last year and then
Speaker 3: he's had injury issues. He's been on like three different
Speaker 3: practice squads this year. But he's from Heburn High School.
Speaker 3: I liked him coming out. He was in the big
Speaker 3: Green notebook. That's a guy on down the road.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what we don't just have to deal
Speaker 5: with Baker Mayfield, and I'm talking myself into this. It
Speaker 5: must be the offensive line, because was this guy, Bucky Irving. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's good, Well, hell Oregon, he's got a lot of holes.
Speaker 5: I had a lot to choose from, you know. So
Speaker 5: sometimes when he's running through that line, he didn't even
Speaker 5: get touched. And those are the kind of things that
Speaker 5: make me nervous, having the guy that's shifty and he's
Speaker 5: so small getting behind those big offensive linemen. You don't
Speaker 5: know he's behind you until he was five years down,
Speaker 5: five yards down the line.
Speaker 3: Fourth round draft pick out of Oregon, Bucky Irving, rookie
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty fifth pick, and they were teaming
Speaker 3: him with Rashad White, so they met that running back
Speaker 3: by commit. Actually, like their third back, Sean Tucker out
Speaker 3: of Syracuse, he had a neck injury, head injury coming
Speaker 3: out and that's why he actually was not drafted. But
Speaker 3: he had a game earlier this season where he went
Speaker 3: for one hundred and thirty one yards and fourteen carries himself.
Speaker 3: So their run game is real, which again speaks to
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. Their offensive line is real, and
Speaker 3: one of the guys on that offensive line is their center.
Speaker 3: Graham Barton, who's a first round draft pick who I
Speaker 3: know is on the radar of the Cowboys. UH Cowboys
Speaker 3: opted to trade down and pick up a third round pick,
Speaker 3: which in essence became Cooper Bebie their center, and UH
Speaker 3: drafted Tyler Geydon, who, by the way, on Guyton, you
Speaker 3: notice anything on him in the game the other day
Speaker 3: that you notice him at the line of scrimmage where
Speaker 3: you know he hasn't had a tendency and he's gotten
Speaker 3: called for this you know, illegal formation stuff.
Speaker 4: He got his butt up on he was he.
Speaker 3: Was clearly, clearly he has been coached to and it's
Speaker 3: almost like he doesn't He did not have and I
Speaker 3: didn't look closely. It is just at the snap of
Speaker 3: the ball, I was like, all right, he's doing something
Speaker 3: different with his yes, his stance and he you know,
Speaker 3: left tackles will put that left foot back, and he
Speaker 3: was more square to the line of scrimmage. It seemed
Speaker 3: like to me.
Speaker 6: And that's unusual for a tackle, right, Yeah, should have
Speaker 6: told that to a dooga to get your butt on
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 2: Why why do you why does he.
Speaker 3: Always do you want to go on a rent here
Speaker 3: in the second that's okay.
Speaker 4: But regardless of how he set up, he played better.
Speaker 4: He played more aggressively I thought.
Speaker 3: And he's got a negro.
Speaker 2: But without Yeah, that's the problem exactly.
Speaker 4: He's got to learn what.
Speaker 2: Who was it?
Speaker 4: Oh it was Tyler Smith. Remember all the holdings he got.
Speaker 4: He wasn't holding he was he was punishing the guy
Speaker 4: to the ground and they were calling hold.
Speaker 3: Connor Williams did that all the time too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's that's definitely, that's definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like he won so finishing.
Speaker 3: It's not just on the play for the game, right, Mean,
Speaker 3: streaks can work against you.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because that's what they see at the end, right, yep.
Speaker 3: You know, Mickey's got a mean streak about man.
Speaker 2: That's why it's called the Mick rant.
Speaker 5: It's not called the Walls Rent or Bill rant.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: And we're gonna see in just a moment if he's
Speaker 3: got any more, if he's got left to the tank
Speaker 3: when mix shots continues at a moment.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we continue with mix shots, and ever since has
Speaker 3: been talking about this Tampa Bay offensive line, and he's
Speaker 3: jumped the gun on me because normally I don't really
Speaker 3: start studying the opponent until Wednesday of the week, and
Speaker 3: so I've been scrambling here in the break trying to
Speaker 3: answer some of his questions the offensive line for Tampa Bay. Everson.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons that they're successful on offense is
Speaker 3: exactly what you're pointing to. And right off the top
Speaker 3: of my head, what I see with this offensive line
Speaker 3: is they have been virtually injury free, really, and if
Speaker 3: you look across the board in the National Football League,
Speaker 3: the teams that are successful, it's usually you can point
Speaker 3: to their offensive line. In this case, whatever area of
Speaker 3: a team you're talking about, it's because they still got
Speaker 3: their regular players playing and they have invest Tampa Bay
Speaker 3: has invested in their offensive line. Their first round draft pick,
Speaker 3: Tristan Wirfs was the thirteenth overall pick, and he's on
Speaker 3: his second contract now. And as I mentioned, Graham Barton.
Speaker 3: Their center is a first round pick. Cody Mock, their
Speaker 3: right guard was a second round pick last year. So
Speaker 3: it's been here in the last couple of years with
Speaker 3: those two guys that they've shored things up. The one
Speaker 3: injury issue they've had is a right tackle. They've had
Speaker 3: a couple of guys that have played there. But which
Speaker 3: gets me to the Detroit Lions. And remember when the
Speaker 3: Cowboys played the Lions and how that game went.
Speaker 2: Okay, you mean this year?
Speaker 4: This year?
Speaker 3: Okay, and it was a forty two to fourteen game
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and they did lose Aiden Hutchinson in
Speaker 3: that game. Okay, But prior to the Aiden Hutchinson injury
Speaker 3: and leading into that game, one of the most and
Speaker 3: that was like the fifth game of the season. One
Speaker 3: of the most remarkable things about the Detroit Lions coming
Speaker 3: into that game, in my opinion, was how they their
Speaker 3: injury list was about one or two players deep and
Speaker 3: they were backup players. Since then, they have been losing players.
Speaker 2: I remember. I remember on.
Speaker 3: The heels of that game, I said, let's wait and
Speaker 3: see where the Lions are at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: Because the injury bug hasn't hit them yet and since
Speaker 3: then it has now hit them and it's coming waves
Speaker 3: now here. In the last week or so.
Speaker 4: They lost to their line, right, they lost defensive line.
Speaker 2: Well one of them was a dB. Yeah, they got
Speaker 2: the job.
Speaker 3: Broken jaw Carlton Davis and then Ali McNeil, their defensive
Speaker 3: tackle who's won the best defensive tackles in the league.
Speaker 3: He's for the year, but also on offense now David
Speaker 3: Montgomery as a season ending thee So now that we'll
Speaker 3: talk about that.
Speaker 2: But I saw it come across.
Speaker 3: The duo of Montgomery and Gibbs has now been broken apart.
Speaker 4: So you're telling me other people have problems other than
Speaker 4: the Cowboys having to play their backup guard at backup center, yep.
Speaker 4: And the backup keep back guard just keep going.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you look at it across the league
Speaker 3: and it really is survival of the fittest, especially with
Speaker 3: seventeen games. Uh huh. That's right, and that that's where
Speaker 3: you're see in Tampa Bay is getting on a roll here. Well,
Speaker 3: if you look across at their roster, they have been
Speaker 3: able to stay pretty healthy. Yeah. That they had a
Speaker 3: span there where they Evans and Godwin they both lost
Speaker 3: that both of them the wide receiver, but they got
Speaker 3: Evans back. And that's why when Jerry.
Speaker 4: That's that's a big back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's they are dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And and Kate otten are tied in has
Speaker 3: emerged as a real receiving threat this year. Uh. But
Speaker 3: that's why back when the Cowboys lost to Ron Bland
Speaker 3: in the preseason and Jerry was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: that's all right. You know, it's all right because we're
Speaker 3: going to get him back, right, you know. And so
Speaker 3: that's the way you have to look at things in
Speaker 3: this league is the injuries that occur that they're if
Speaker 3: they're coming back in four weeks, eight weeks, whatever, you
Speaker 3: still got a chance. But when you lose him for
Speaker 3: the season, that's when like Diggs, like and and and
Speaker 3: especially for the Cowboys now, even looking ahead to next season,
Speaker 3: when you've got two huge question marks to start the
Speaker 3: season next year, unprojected starters and overshown in.
Speaker 4: Digs, well you might add, I mean he should be ready.
Speaker 4: But you can add Sam Williams to that too, getting
Speaker 4: back from his tarrant, he's got.
Speaker 3: A he's got a four month head start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the right, right, So you would hope, but again,
Speaker 4: Diggs may not be ready to start the season next
Speaker 4: next year.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you look at this team, I
Speaker 5: see a coach that is extremely underrated. You see Todd
Speaker 5: Bowles and I talk about at times. I talk about
Speaker 5: the Baltimore culture, you know, talk about the culture that
Speaker 5: they have in Philadelphia. Uh, you know, tough minded coaches
Speaker 5: and players that just play above themselves.
Speaker 2: I think this Tampa team is a lot like that.
Speaker 5: Todd Bowles is one of the most underrated coaches I
Speaker 5: think in the NFL. First of all, he's so quiet,
Speaker 5: you know, he's you know, doesn't He's so unassuming about
Speaker 5: everything that he does.
Speaker 3: He's underrated by outsiders. People in the in the league
Speaker 3: have the highest.
Speaker 2: Respect for him, and he has really come through.
Speaker 5: At this point. They're trending up with right now. I've
Speaker 5: seen them have their problems. I've seen Baker Mayfield not
Speaker 5: do so well outside the pocket, even though Mike Evans
Speaker 5: had come back. I've seen them lose a couple of
Speaker 5: games where you know, the defense was just better than
Speaker 5: they will and so they're doable. There's no doubt that
Speaker 5: they are doable. We can take care of this team.
Speaker 5: But you have to worry about a culture, a team
Speaker 5: that has a culture of being one of the toughest
Speaker 5: teams in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Sounds like you better score thirty points to beat.
Speaker 5: Him, no doubt, because Baker, Baker's gonna He's gonna make it.
Speaker 5: He's one of those guys is very dangerous when he
Speaker 5: falls behind, very dangerous when he falls behind.
Speaker 3: And with Todd Bowles, I mean it goes back. Of
Speaker 3: course he was here twenty years ago, but his time.
Speaker 2: He was at Grambling. He was the DC at Grambling
Speaker 2: when Doug was a coach.
Speaker 4: That he was on Parcels Parcels staff as the defensive
Speaker 4: line coach, right, really, yeah, defensive.
Speaker 3: Line would have thought he was secondary coach.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe secondary. Yeah, you're right, it was secondary. I
Speaker 4: was thinking of Casey Rogers.
Speaker 3: Who I think it was on his staff. Casey Rogers
Speaker 3: is a co defensive coordinator. Yeah, and he would Casey
Speaker 3: was with them with the Jets too. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 3: followed him. I guess he's probably with Arizona with him too,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bowles was. He was a good hand mm hmmm
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys for sure. So you got a with
Speaker 4: all these backups playing on the offensive line. You got
Speaker 4: a reasonable explanation for why the running game now is flourishing,
Speaker 4: other than maybe who you're playing against.
Speaker 3: Apparently it's Cooper Rush. What I'm hearing, is it Cooper
Speaker 3: Rush the reason? Said the coaches yesterday said it too.
Speaker 3: Was it Schottenheimer?
Speaker 2: Well it would have been.
Speaker 3: Is he the Schoenheimer McCarthy yesterday was talking about.
Speaker 4: I don't think McCarthy.
Speaker 3: I think it was Schottenheimer talking about the pre snap
Speaker 3: reads and the what the what the quarterback is doing
Speaker 3: is to get them in the right the offensive line
Speaker 3: in the in the right spot for the run blocking.
Speaker 3: So apparently it's all Cooper Rush.
Speaker 2: I can't give that to Cooper. I like Cooper.
Speaker 4: Jerry.
Speaker 2: Jerry also, Lie is just playing better.
Speaker 4: He said that just playing. Jerry said on today podcast,
Speaker 4: I mean on his segment that they're blocking it different.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if they that's beyond me.
Speaker 5: So so you're saying that the quarterback is the reason
Speaker 5: that they're blocking, But.
Speaker 4: He also said the quarterback had something.
Speaker 5: If the quarterback made some adjustments with the defense the
Speaker 5: offensive line and now they're blocking.
Speaker 3: Better, maybe it's identifying that Mic linebacker they have Dak
Speaker 3: had a problem.
Speaker 2: But it almost suns when when when when Zeke was
Speaker 2: his brother?
Speaker 5: Bet, yeah, that guy trying to find the linebacker.
Speaker 3: They might be well before, Rico has been the starting
Speaker 3: running back since day one. Since since the first game
Speaker 3: of the first game of the season, Zeke was the
Speaker 3: starting run back. Rico became the starting running back in
Speaker 3: Week two. So just everyone clear on that, Okay, But
Speaker 3: apparently it has something to do with the line calls.
Speaker 3: And Cooper is well, and he he's so quick to
Speaker 3: make decisions even pre snap and post snap.
Speaker 4: Is that the deal?
Speaker 3: Well, that's what was said on the radio this morning.
Speaker 4: Well, he said the quarterback processing very quickly. He said,
Speaker 4: the quarterback is making good decisions, good at the line decisions.
Speaker 4: So I don't know how that fits into the blocking
Speaker 4: scheme has changed.
Speaker 3: Well, the quarterbacks in involved in making those line calls,
Speaker 3: and he is.
Speaker 5: I mean, but I can't say that these guys were
Speaker 5: just playing better.
Speaker 2: The offensive line is blocking better.
Speaker 4: That's right, How they're the runs, how the runs are decided, which.
Speaker 5: Once again, quarterback has nothing to do with that, right,
Speaker 5: That's all I'm trying to say. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: he just calls it, just the words come out of
Speaker 5: his mouth and then he hands it off when he's
Speaker 5: not stumbling.
Speaker 4: And but I mean, think about it, though, three straight
Speaker 4: games rushing, it's been a while since.
Speaker 5: That that offensive line is getting feeling real good. Of course,
Speaker 5: we're not playing against the best teams.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that was about to bring out. When Derek
Speaker 3: Brown was playing defensive tackle for the Carolina Panthers last year,
Speaker 3: they were a lot more difficult to run. Again, he
Speaker 3: got hurt the first week of the season. Okay, they
Speaker 3: also are down Shaq Thompson at linebacker, and they didn't
Speaker 3: have their rookie Trevin Wallace this week at linebacker, and
Speaker 3: their last against the run, their last against the run
Speaker 3: in the East NFL.
Speaker 5: And you've got we played the Giants before that, right,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I don't know that if their
Speaker 5: running game is any good, then we played.
Speaker 2: We just beve we beat somebody before that.
Speaker 3: So, well, how about Cincinnati's defense? How they do it
Speaker 3: this year? Yeah, they've said they've tied the NFL record
Speaker 3: for most losses, having scored thirty points in a game.
Speaker 2: And that that's because they suck.
Speaker 4: So now, so now we find out right right, got
Speaker 4: two teams with winning records, actually three.
Speaker 2: That was something I was going to mentioned.
Speaker 5: I was thinking about it last night, just about how
Speaker 5: you know, with the last four games that's with except
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati, those teams weren't really respected that much. This
Speaker 5: team here, they have lots of experience. The coach is good,
Speaker 5: the quarterback is good, They're good at every position.
Speaker 2: If we think we.
Speaker 5: Deserve to be in the playoffs, this is the game
Speaker 5: that we have to win.
Speaker 2: These are the games that we're gonna have to win three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just like that.
Speaker 5: So you're gonna have to play so far above yourself
Speaker 5: from what you've been playing. It may not be above
Speaker 5: yourself from last year, but from what we've been doing
Speaker 5: this year. Everybody and every area of our team has
Speaker 5: to play a whole lot better than they have been,
Speaker 5: even though we're proud of what they've been doing so far.
Speaker 2: The last three four games.
Speaker 4: Cincinnati came in at four and eight. Right now, they've
Speaker 4: won two straight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The Giants came in at two and whatever and ten
Speaker 4: maybe I think, and they are losing.
Speaker 2: And then this.
Speaker 4: Team came in at three and ten.
Speaker 3: Carolina, So as the Cowboys have won three of their
Speaker 3: last four.
Speaker 4: Games, and before Cincinnati, well it.
Speaker 10: Was it was the starting with the Washington game, Washington, right, okay, Washington,
Speaker 10: and then the Giants lose to Cincinnati in heartbreaking fashion
Speaker 10: and then win at Carolina.
Speaker 3: That's what they've done. And I'm telling you Washington is
Speaker 3: not as good.
Speaker 4: Else they are record. They are taking advantage of the
Speaker 4: last place schedule.
Speaker 3: Think about think about Washington, but also think about Washington
Speaker 3: and what a couple of their wins have come against
Speaker 3: Chicago on a Hail Mary, and then this game against
Speaker 3: New Orleans. If New Orleans converts on a two point conversion, they.
Speaker 2: Lose that game.
Speaker 3: So just then they would create they're not that good.
Speaker 4: They would be a five hundred team, right if they
Speaker 4: had lost that two games, that's right, regardless of whatever else.
Speaker 3: The problem is, you got to get to that game
Speaker 3: meaning for them, get to that game. It's make it meaningful.
Speaker 3: I can't remember, did we already.
Speaker 2: Take their no? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's take another break. It would be
Speaker 3: back teraftics up and.
Speaker 4: I'll let you know what else. Jerry said on his
Speaker 4: segment today.
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Speaker 3: All right, very good, Mickey. What else did Jerry have
Speaker 3: to say this morning on the radio.
Speaker 4: I don't know why this came up. This is important.
Speaker 4: Somebody asked him if he's ever eaten raccoon.
Speaker 3: It came up because Xavier Legette of the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 3: made headlines by saying that he has.
Speaker 4: Eaten raccoon, and so they asked Jerry if he'd eaten
Speaker 4: raccoon and the answer was absolutely, either honey or his
Speaker 4: mama made the best raccoon. And he added that and
Speaker 4: one of the best things she cooked with squirrel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say I've had squirrel. Yeah, I've never
Speaker 6: had raccoon. So Jerry's on record for raccoon. Also, he
Speaker 6: was asked.
Speaker 4: About somehow this got out there. I don't know how
Speaker 4: Steven answered the question about, you know, the salary cap
Speaker 4: going to be tight. They acted like tight again and
Speaker 4: I'm going, no, it's going to be tight or because
Speaker 4: of the count tracks you just signed, right.
Speaker 3: Why is that news?
Speaker 4: Because I don't know Steven said something that made them
Speaker 4: think that they can't sign Micah, and Jerry basically said,
Speaker 4: no one said in this organization we can't sign Micah.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem is they can't sign anybody else.
Speaker 4: Right, right, exactly like, do you want to resign Rico?
Speaker 4: Depending on what somebody else offers him? Can you resign
Speaker 4: Osa because of the way he's playing, he's gonna get
Speaker 4: some attention. Can you resign Kendricks who was playing on
Speaker 4: a one year deal? So that's the problem, but he
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that the salary cap was going
Speaker 4: to be tight next year, But he did not mention
Speaker 4: anything about not being able to sign.
Speaker 2: I think if you have a team, you can pay
Speaker 2: three superstars, right.
Speaker 4: But not at the top of their position, which was rare.
Speaker 4: You're headed right now. CD is second, right, but he's
Speaker 4: really first because guess what in Minnesota they got income
Speaker 4: they got state income tax.
Speaker 3: Because we're talking as far as the salary caps, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I mean, but you're right, you can. You just have
Speaker 3: you have to hit on all of the not all
Speaker 3: of them, but you have to have a keep churning
Speaker 3: the roster with finding those players who can do what
Speaker 3: these players are doing right now, these these undrafted guys
Speaker 3: that are performing.
Speaker 2: There time to play, buddy.
Speaker 5: If we don't have no development time to get you
Speaker 5: but out here that's well.
Speaker 3: And with the injuries, I mean, I would love somebody,
Speaker 3: and especially with the new reserve rules now injured reserve
Speaker 3: is used a lot more than they couldn't be used.
Speaker 3: But once a year, you know, not that long ago.
Speaker 3: Are there more injuries now than what there were twenty
Speaker 3: years ago? It sure seems like it. We kind of
Speaker 3: talked about that, yeah, which means that you have to
Speaker 3: have a ninety man roster. Basically you go to training
Speaker 3: game with a ninety man roster. And most of these
Speaker 3: teams were, including the practice squad they're using throughout the
Speaker 3: course of the year, seventy five to eighty players easily.
Speaker 4: I don't have time to count it, but I will
Speaker 4: for tomorrow and see how many guys have actually played
Speaker 4: in a game. And I bet it's getting I did
Speaker 4: it at one point and it was in the low sixties.
Speaker 4: I bet it's the seventy by.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it's seventy five.
Speaker 3: And what was especially with the practice squad elevations, you
Speaker 3: are naturally good. I have some and so like, if
Speaker 3: a guy is hurting for a week or so, you
Speaker 3: can not make him active for a week, and you
Speaker 3: elevate a practice squad guy, and that's going to raise
Speaker 3: those numbers some than what they used to do. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's been great for the league
Speaker 3: and for those journeymen players to be able to have opportunities.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know who the hell anybody is anymore.
Speaker 3: It's great for them to still have life in the league.
Speaker 3: Josh Butler, I mean, and Kemon Hall, you know, those
Speaker 3: keep on going. We have a bunch of Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of them. And other teams have those
Speaker 3: same guys that are able to continue to keep hope
Speaker 3: alive for their NFL careers.
Speaker 5: And I must admit it's impressive to watch this team
Speaker 5: do the same thing. I mean, you don't know half
Speaker 5: the defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You don't know. You definitely don't know half the DB's.
Speaker 5: I'm about to ask bags, who do we have left
Speaker 5: at defensive back?
Speaker 2: Do we even have a dime package?
Speaker 3: He's not miss distracted sixty six five right now?
Speaker 2: We have sixty five die packages.
Speaker 4: No sixty five players have played at least one snap.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot. That's a lot.
Speaker 4: And there might be more because I didn't I didn't
Speaker 4: look at the special teams. I was just counting the
Speaker 4: offense defense.
Speaker 3: It's gonna get seventy five.
Speaker 4: So oh well, didn't McCarthy say when they won the
Speaker 4: superventy so use seventy seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so nothing's changed.
Speaker 4: And now that was seventeen games. Yeah, Now that there's
Speaker 4: seventeen games, you're gonna need more.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mickey, you have a TV assignment.
Speaker 2: You got do I do?
Speaker 3: Where can we catch this?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Cowboys on your station tomorrow morning? Oh okay, all right,
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