WEBVTT - Recapping 2024 Olympic Men's Golf

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we are going to talk about the Olympics. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the men's competition that wrapped up on Sunday. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a scintillating tournament. It was It was really awesome. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody had high hopes for the Olympics and it delivered.

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<v Speaker 1>I am joined today by Joseph Lamannia and then Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Martin will be joy to talk about the Olympics. But

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<v Speaker 1>first we're going to do our in and out segment. Joseph,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you.

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<v Speaker 2>In on Andy? I am in on the Wyndham Clark

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<v Speaker 2>redemption story or partial redemption story. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Wyndom Clark hate coming into the Paris Olympics. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was exacerbated by people kind of knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't the strongest course fit. He's been really struggling

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but Wyndam Clark qualified. He wasn't picked. This

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a boys club type thing. Wyndham Clark has accomplished

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<v Speaker 2>a lot on the golf course in the last fifteen months.

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<v Speaker 2>US Open champion last year. He deserved to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>He opens with a seventy five, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media and everybody piled on.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone started piling on right. Bryson tweeted that he'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Paris, but you know he's cheering for

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<v Speaker 2>Team USA. He tweeted that after round one, convenient time

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<v Speaker 2>to tweet it right when everyone's going at Wyndham Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Wyndham turned it around sixty eight, sixty five,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five to finish, tied for fourteenth, beat a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good golfers and I really enjoyed reading his quotes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if you look through his transcript after

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<v Speaker 2>he finished, but there was a question more or less

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<v Speaker 2>to the effect of, I don't know if you saw

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<v Speaker 2>any of the social media chatter, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>saying that maybe you were distracted going to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these events and the way you're doing the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 2>and Wyndham was like, look this is a once in

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime opportunity. I went to a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>events like the gymnastics, and he went to track. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this was an amazing experience and I have no regrets

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<v Speaker 2>about the way I handled any of this. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he did a really good job of indicating himself and

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<v Speaker 2>I respect the grind to lock in after a bad

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<v Speaker 2>first round and put up three good performances on a

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<v Speaker 2>golf course that didn't suit him particularly well. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of people who just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>Wyndham Clark and wanted to take a shot at him

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<v Speaker 2>and again, is he one of the best five players

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. No, he's not playing like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>he deserved to be there, and I think he've indicated himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the year has been a tale of two

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<v Speaker 1>halves of the year. He was great at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, you know he was. There were questions

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<v Speaker 1>like is he the best player in the world at

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<v Speaker 1>one point this year before Scotty went absolutely bananas. You

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<v Speaker 1>know he almost won it at Sawgrass. Of course, that

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<v Speaker 1>I would say doesn't really fit his his game well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, like you know, Windom Clark, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I do appreciate about Wyndham Clark in

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<v Speaker 1>a larger scale is like, to me, he seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he's himself. He is very I think the right word

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<v Speaker 1>to use here is is genuine. Uh there isn't I

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<v Speaker 1>think like the person that that was that everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>clamoring to replace him. I don't. I think he's like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the polar opposite of Bryson. There's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>underlying motives to you know, what he's doing. Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryson's not tweeting about congratulations Sky Scheffler, what an amazing performance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know to win an American gold. This is like

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<v Speaker 1>it was more of a you know, there was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a cryptic undertone to when and why Bryson might have

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted out that that that message. It was probably directed

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<v Speaker 1>at the fourth qualifier from the Americans, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>played a very bad first round. So I I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm generally in on on Wyndham Clark and his

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<v Speaker 1>performance there. I'm in you know, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a greater I'm in on the Olympics. What a what

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<v Speaker 1>a what a takeaway here, I'm in on golf in

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. But more if I wanted to zero in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the men's tournament, We'll get into this on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. Was was amazing. This is I think the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest event in women's golf now, and I'm super Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the biggest event in women's golf, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited for the women' event this week. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have a lot. You have all the

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<v Speaker 1>best players and all the best women really in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the world competing, and I think from the platform

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<v Speaker 1>that the Olympics gives it the passer, but the general

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<v Speaker 1>passer by audience, the general fan interest. My my neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>are not golfers. On Saturday night, they were asking me

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in in men in the in the golf,

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<v Speaker 1>what who's going to win? You know that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen for any you know, and I I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to, you know, be dismissive of any women's

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<v Speaker 1>tournament at this point. But that does not happen for

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<v Speaker 1>any women's golf tournament at this point. It happens for

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<v Speaker 1>one the Olympics, the general sports fandom, the audience. Yesterday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife stopped by and was genuinely interested in what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in golf. I have done this now for

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<v Speaker 1>almost nine years. I can tell you that that does

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<v Speaker 1>not happen for the Masters, That does not happened for

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open, That does not happen for any golf tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen for the Ryder Cup. It happens for the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics because my wife Will, who's not a sports person,

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<v Speaker 1>will watch Olympics sports because it's the part of this

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<v Speaker 1>big festival of the Olympics that that captures a non

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<v Speaker 1>sports interested audience. And that is an amazing thing for

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<v Speaker 1>women's golf. It's an amazing thing for just golf in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that general passerby. When you have passerbys, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to track them and make them fans. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a huge moment. This might be

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<v Speaker 1>like the moment that women's golf really I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say needs, but this could be a moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we look back on years from now and say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what the twenty twenty four Olympics were it that

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<v Speaker 1>was the jumping off point that turned you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>see women's basketball having this moment. The WNBA ratings have

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<v Speaker 1>never been higher. Maybe this is the moment that leads

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<v Speaker 1>to the really growth and popularity that we've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for for women's golf, and I can't wait for this tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you're right. I'm really excited for this tournament. Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really cool to see some of

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<v Speaker 2>the quotes on the men's side. Shane Lowry said, the

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<v Speaker 2>majors are up there, but the atmosphere this week is

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<v Speaker 2>as good as any major that I've ever played. Alejandro Toasty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a fan favorite, had posted a video saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's the biggest crowd he's ever played in front of.

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<v Speaker 2>I really hope that energy is there for the women's game.

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<v Speaker 2>The only question I even have is the rationale as

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<v Speaker 2>to the order of the women's going after the men.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope that with the men's game being a

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<v Speaker 2>little bigger, it doesn't take some of the oxygen out

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<v Speaker 2>and they the women get the same turnout. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it probably just worked better for the professional schedule to

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<v Speaker 2>do it this way, but I think there's maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>case to be made that the other way around would

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<v Speaker 2>elevate the women's game. Regardless. Super excited. I'm in on

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<v Speaker 2>that too, all right, what are you out on totally

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<v Speaker 2>different direction here. Just think it's an interesting story that

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<v Speaker 2>indirectly affects golf. But there's a pretty controversial tax happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the sports betting world that I think is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>for people to see, but big headlines around it like

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<v Speaker 2>DraftKings is introducing this surcharge tax Andy, and basically the

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<v Speaker 2>way it's working. Instead of offering fans like let's say

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<v Speaker 2>to bet on either side of Bears Browns to use

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<v Speaker 2>a shotgun start matchup, like you have to risk one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and ten dollars to win one hundred, they're implementing

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<v Speaker 2>this tax where instead of changing the price you pay

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<v Speaker 2>on the front if you win the bet, they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>like a small fee out of your winnings. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>very clearly impacting customers to the point that I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's going to go into effect January first of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, but it's going to outrage customer so

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<v Speaker 2>much that some people think that they're doing this on

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<v Speaker 2>purpose to kind of spark some uproars against the legislation

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<v Speaker 2>and to get some fans on board with kind of

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<v Speaker 2>punching back a little bit. We don't want to see

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<v Speaker 2>money taken out of our winnings regardless. DraftKings is a

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<v Speaker 2>partner of the PGA Tour. Sports betting is very relevant

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<v Speaker 2>and professional golf, and I think people should be aware

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the things that are happening, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways that customers are going to be impacted, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the more predatory practices. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>this would be described as predatory, but sports gambling is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge subject that's going to ruin a lot of lives,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of young lives, and I think it should

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<v Speaker 2>be legal, but people should be aware of how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>And like some of these small things that it's already

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to win at sports betting, regardless of how

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<v Speaker 2>it's marketed. Things like this make it a lot harder,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not always Again, the way that the entire

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenon is promoted.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a page out of the Big Tech playbook.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Tech playbook is hey, uh, get people hooked to

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<v Speaker 1>your product and then change the rules. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>this seems like a quintessential rule change, where hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the way sports betting works. You get paid you

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<v Speaker 1>you risk this much, you get paid this much. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like, oh, hold on, not only are you bet?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we betting against you? Like a small fee change

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<v Speaker 1>tilts the odds in a in a in a major way,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sad. I've uh, you know, I've long compared

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<v Speaker 1>this and you know, probably to the detriment of the

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<v Speaker 1>health of our company, you know, in terms of advertisers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's been a lot of money to be made

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<v Speaker 1>for for sports media companies and you see it with

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<v Speaker 1>like ESPN ESPN bet you know, like they have their

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<v Speaker 1>own betting thing. But like, to me, this is felt

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, like like cigarette ads, Like we are

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<v Speaker 1>at some point going to look back on on sports

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<v Speaker 1>gambling and be like, remember when we allowed Joe Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Cammell and allowed like you know, sports betting to completely

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrate our our our sport like the sanctity of sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't want to be on my

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<v Speaker 1>high horse here. This is not what it is. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fine with sports betting and we would like entertain you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having sports gambling advertisers, right, Like it's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a a we would never do this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But like when you look back on like I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid that grew up with with cigarette advertising and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of got outlawed while I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think back to that time period, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like we kind of woke up and we're like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are we allowing this to happen to our kids? Like

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<v Speaker 1>the gambling as we're really targeted at kids like Joe Cambll,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlborough Man, like these are these are figures that

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid you would look at and be like

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool. And I think like the way that sports

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<v Speaker 1>has happened, the sports gambling thing is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really marketed as like gambling on sports is

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<v Speaker 1>fun and cool, and I think that's not necessarily like

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing. And as they continue to to the

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<v Speaker 1>decks were already leaning their way, and as they continue

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<v Speaker 1>to put more more weight their way, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>is it really gambling or is it just you're just

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<v Speaker 1>contributing money?

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<v Speaker 2>And again this is a tax. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little potentially different in that. Again, DraftKings and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>similar sports books may end up really being trying to

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<v Speaker 2>advocate for their consumers here, but regardless, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think especially young people, if you look at how

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<v Speaker 2>prevalent sports betting is and like high schoolers now very

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<v Speaker 2>well versed in what a spread is, what money line Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't escape looking at tickers now without seeing sports

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<v Speaker 2>bets and the different odds associated with each game, prop

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<v Speaker 2>bets being shoved down your throat, Like, I think people

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<v Speaker 2>in sports need to understand the mechanics of how this works,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if they're taking on partnerships for example, like the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour right, Like, there need to be executives who

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<v Speaker 2>understand the way that it's impacting their fans, because if

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<v Speaker 2>it does leave fans with a negative experience, those could

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<v Speaker 2>that could be detrimental to the long term health not

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<v Speaker 2>just of their consumers, but of their own sport if

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<v Speaker 2>those people end up being disenfranchised.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I'm out on is golf's scheduling for this Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that when we zoom out and we think

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<v Speaker 1>about this, like the men shouldn't be playing the week

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<v Speaker 1>after the Olympics because the women are on the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it. I think it's it's reasonable to

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<v Speaker 1>ask professional golf every four years to take a three

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<v Speaker 1>week break. I don't think there should be any event

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<v Speaker 1>really scheduled around the Olympics, any major tour, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, Deep World Tour, or Women's like the LPGA.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that LPGA you should have players playing

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<v Speaker 1>in Portland, Oregon and trying to play for their status

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<v Speaker 1>and then having to get on a plane and fly

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<v Speaker 1>to France miss out on like the opening weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics if they've qualified, and likewise with the men,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there should be men that are having

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the plane right after they played the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics and fly to Sedgefield, North Carolina and have to

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<v Speaker 1>go battle for their status on tour. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous. I think that like there's a I understand

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<v Speaker 1>it's an inconvenience, but when you're talking about the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>the honor of representing your country, you shouldn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>honor of representing representing your country pitted against your job status.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what both of these tours have done with

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<v Speaker 1>their scheduling. For a player like sky Shuffler, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you get down the list at like Eric

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<v Speaker 1>van Ruyan or players like that, it matters greatly. And

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of both of these fields, these tournaments

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<v Speaker 1>that are around it matter and they are drastically impacting

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<v Speaker 1>their Olympic experience. And I know that this is legislating

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<v Speaker 1>a change in schedule for a select few, but these

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<v Speaker 1>are players that have achieved something that is a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>achievement playing the Olympics. And I don't think that the

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<v Speaker 1>re I think that this should be a collaborative understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that the Olympics are going to be a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 1>driver of interest in both sports, the overall sport. This

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<v Speaker 1>should just be a three week hiatus. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that like we've seen hockey do this where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if hockey intersects into the Winter Olympics, there's a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like they just keep going, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a break. I think that this should be instituted

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<v Speaker 1>and should be a part of the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>pro golf schedules is like, hey, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I understand like maybe there's a couple select

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<v Speaker 1>few corn Ferry Tour players that qualify, and maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tournament outside, Like I can somewhat get on board

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I would love to see though, just a

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<v Speaker 1>full three week stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot to add that as well said,

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree, I think some of it is just

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<v Speaker 2>putting athletes bodies in the best position to be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>And flying from Paris to North Carolina is not putting

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<v Speaker 2>the athlete's body in a way that I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time to get your body adjusted, You're not

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<v Speaker 2>putting them in a position to be successful. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think if golfers like an Eric van Ryan are saying

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<v Speaker 2>to themselves, well, I didn't play super well at the Windom,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was just coming off of the Olympics, like

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't great for the sport. So I agree. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what. There's obviously business trade offs, right the

0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.960
<v Speaker 2>NFL schedule is an optimized for athletes performance. They're playing

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<v Speaker 2>games overseas and then turning around and playing another game

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<v Speaker 2>seven days later. But I'd love to see some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of schedule accommodations made to elevate both the Olympics and

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<v Speaker 2>the events that around it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think this would be a hard conversation for

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, where every year it's once every four years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, when you think about it, in the grand

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<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, it's the Olympics are asking you know

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<v Speaker 1>the way I always would say, you know, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to say this to the CDGA who struggles to get

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<v Speaker 1>great venues for their state ams, and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have like unique situation where the Western am takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like the best venues around Chicago. But I

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<v Speaker 1>used to say to them, like, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>if you say, hey, we want one week of your

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<v Speaker 1>calendar to a great club every this year, one of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two weeks, it's a hard conversation and they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to say no. But if you say, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>you give us one week in the next five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty weeks? So one week in the next ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>what one week can you give us in the next

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and twenty the conversation changes a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like that's the thing when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>this is the question, isn't you know that this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>this one year? We need three weeks so you're fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hard conversation to have with both the LPGA

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<v Speaker 1>and the PGA tour, who are dealing with like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of players, a lot of sponsors, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of juggling of the schedule. It needs to be more

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as Hey, the Olympics, which is a huge you

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<v Speaker 1>know opportunity for us to grow our sports, to grow

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<v Speaker 1>our fan bases, to grow our interests, the general interest

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.399
<v Speaker 1>in our sport. The Olympics requires three weeks out of

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<v Speaker 1>the next two hundred and eight weeks. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot easier way to frame and to work around creating

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<v Speaker 1>schedule solutions. And I think that's that's the way they

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<v Speaker 1>need to change. It's not it's Olympic year. The Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>happened every four years, and this is what we've done

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<v Speaker 1>with our schedule over four years to accommodate that. With you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, one way you talked about the body clock.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing a lot of travel and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to say, the body clock stuff is real. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I flew from Michigan back to California. I was really

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<v Speaker 1>gassed after this trip, and you know, eight o'clock rolls around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this, I am, I need to sleep. I've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of sleep deprived just because of the

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the day in Michigan and shooting photos and

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan. But one thing that really helped me throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Martin from the PGA tour. He is lead coma

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<v Speaker 1>editorial whatever that means, it mean seas in charge of something.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Sean covered the Olympics when it was

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan four years ago. I think he covered this

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics from his couch. But Sean, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what was you know? There was storylines galore in

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<v Speaker 1>this Olympics. You had, you know, there were so many stories.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite one on Sunday that you were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of following.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for a lot of this it was the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the fans added so much. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the first Olympics was kind of maybe a test run,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't quite at the field. They wanted Japan a better field.

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<v Speaker 3>Some guys knocked out because of COVID, notably rom and Bryson,

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<v Speaker 3>but you really had a good competition, but you just

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<v Speaker 3>had no fans.

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<v Speaker 2>There there was no energy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Paris you had the peak thus far

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<v Speaker 3>of Olympic golf. You had a good field, you had

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<v Speaker 3>a great leader board, and then you had the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw some players compared to a festival, the fans

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<v Speaker 3>going wild for Victor Perez. I think just the dynamic

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<v Speaker 3>of having an interesting golf course, one that produces a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different outcomes. There were birdies we made and

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<v Speaker 3>bogies as well, and then fans to react to those shots.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was the big takeaway for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with the fans thing. The golf course lends

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<v Speaker 1>itself well to fans as well, with the finish with fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and eighteen all being in that one centralized area

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<v Speaker 1>where they have, you know, it seems like big mounds

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<v Speaker 1>around it, so you can watch a ton of golf.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can watch almost the entire finish of

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<v Speaker 1>the golf tournament from that central area, and I think

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that led to increased energy it had. It gave the

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<v Speaker 1>telecast like a place to show, you know, and in

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>return to over and over again, where you had big

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>groupings of fans. I feel like, you know, this sport

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>we cover is like you know, a miles long a

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>field and like you can catch it, you know. I

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>think this is a this is like a popular live

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>PGA tour thing. You can catch it either tour at

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<v Speaker 1>a bad spot and be like, look, there's no fans there,

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think you could have found spots that like

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Nationale without fans, but having that central kind of

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>meeting location as you described and players described as a

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>festival that also aided that festival like environment. Joseph, what

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<v Speaker 1>was your favorite story you were watching.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Victor Perez charging up the leaderboard as the

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>fans were going crazy for him, the local French fans singing,

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 2>he was being serenaded. I believe it's the French nation anthem,

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<v Speaker 2>and just a really cool scene as he started stacking

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>birdies on the back nine. He described being very emotional afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he didn't finish on a podium, but he was close.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a chance to, and he described, Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a six to twelve year old, impressionable young golfer

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<v Speaker 2>out there who showed up to this event, it may

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<v Speaker 2>show them that playing golf and playing at the Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>amongst all the best athletes in the world is a

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<v Speaker 2>possibility for them. I thought it was really cool. I

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>thought he handled himself really well. The first t scenes

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>with Victor Perez were cool. That was just a really

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 2>cool storyline from Thursday to Sunday that I was very into.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, this is one of the great

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 1>things about the Olympics, and having three places that are

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>awarded medals. I think Sean, you were on I believe

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we did a podcast after your Olympics experience four years ago,

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>but this is very similar. Victor Press was very similar

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to one of my favorites, the Silver Slovak, the Rory

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Sabatini story. Now Victor Press didn't end up with with

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the with the medal to show for it, but it's

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>so neat that you can have these Sunday charges. I think,

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, Scheffler would be the person that had the

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Sunday charge and got the medal. But you can have

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>this Sunday charge and in most tournaments you're just gaining

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, some extra cash or some extra FedEx cup

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>points from the Sunday charge. Here, you can have a

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Sunday charge and there's an extraordinary reward at the end

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Sunday charge if you've kept yourself, you know,

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:37.479
<v Speaker 1>within striking distance of that top three position. And like

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>what I think makes that made the Victor Perez dynamic

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>was like he was playing along and then those last

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>four it was like, oh this actually like really means

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>something coming down the stretch, and you see how guys

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>carried themselves and handle themselves, you know when they seemingly

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>are just kind of playing free wheeling, playing for nothing,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>but then get really in the mix at the end,

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think like we saw different outcomes we saw,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Rory kind of I felt like had

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of something he got going, and I think there

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 1>was a moment in time where he was like I'm

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>going for the gold and tried to hit that heroic

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>shot not in and came up a club short, like

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was kind of in between clubs. He

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>tried to hit it really close on on that was

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fifteen and spun it back into the water, you know,

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>where like Victor Perez, he had a really good look

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>on eighteen, given how difficult that hole is to make

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to make a birdie there and change it and get

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>on the on the podium. I think my favorite story.

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think Tommy fleet was just an interesting

0:27:54.400 --> 0:28:00.160
<v Speaker 1>character in terms of golf and this generation where he's

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he's now like getting on being pretty relevant for ten

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>years without a lot of like landmark wins. He's had

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>some really good European Tour, deep World Tour wins, but

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>for how often he's in the mix, there weren't a

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of wins. And I think this tournament is going

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to be remembered as maybe one that he really played great.

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>He really had an awesome Sunday. He delivered, he hit shots,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>he got up and down, he made putts, and he

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>had a couple bad breaks. But you know, this is

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the story of twenty twenty four. He just got beat

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>by somebody that's playing at a different level than everyone

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>else in Scotty Scheffler and Tommy Fleetwood. You know. The

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>nice thing for Tommy Fleetwood, and I think this is

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the one of the things that makes this event super

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>unique is that when he walks away with a silver medal,

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>adding to Great Britain Summer Olympics medal total, and you

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>don't walk away probably feeling the same way as a

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>second in a major championship where there's some sort of gratitude,

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>some feeling of accomplishment, and I think that's one of

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the neat things about the Olympics.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 3>So I think there's been a lot of debate about

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>where does a gold medal stand in relation to the majors.

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I still don't think that a gold medal has surpassed

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>one of the majors. But I think the Olympics has

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 3>the best second and third place finishes in golf. To me,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I think a silver medal beats even a runner up

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>at the Masters. It's a great showing. You can leave

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 3>feeling very enthused about your game, but all it gets

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 3>you is a return to augusta National the next year,

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>whereas a silver medal once every four years you're an

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Olympic medalist. So I think, you know, we talked about,

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 3>like you said, there's nothing else to play for coming

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 3>down the stretch. You don't have to worry about protecting

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the points, let's say, or where you stand on different standings.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>It's only about that one week and you can, you know,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of leave it all on the field if you will.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think we saw that that I think the

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Olympics has the best second and third place finishes in golf,

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>or at least the best prize for finishing second and third.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would, I would agree with that. I I

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's I mean, it's so it's so deep. I mean, like,

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you'd think about like what the metal symbolizes,

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think that is the aspect of the event.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I I you know, I think the the overall the

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>overarching uh tone of the week was that I think,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, Sean, you hit on kind of the awkwardness

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>of golf kind of in the Olympics with the with

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>covid at in Tokyo where you know, some guys weren't in.

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the buy in was full. Did this

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like an arrival for the Olympics to you guys,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Sean and Joseph.

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I'd say for me like that. One of my biggest

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>takeaways and having my notes was that this past week

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>was a huge windfall for professional golf. And I don't

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>think in professional golf we've had a ton to get

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>super excited about in twenty twenty four. There hasn't been

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of progress on a deal. This is now

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>an event that has kind of sprung up, not out

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere because it's been building but sort of out

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere into prominence, and that we have a huge

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>event every forty years to look forward to that. I

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>think there is total buy in and the golfers who

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>aren't bought in may just get left behind. Like, I

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>think the event will exist and is bigger than any

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of the active players right now, So if they choose,

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason not to show up in twenty twenty eight,

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>the event will go on and be special without them.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So I think this was a huge windfall for professional

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>golf and something to be extremely excited about going forward.

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel similar toly Sean?

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was honestly surprised that the storyline of who

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 3>will play and who will not play wasn't even really

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 3>a storyline. There was some point this summer where I asked, like,

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 3>are we sure Scotty's playing and Xander and everyone else?

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess Xander is defending champion was definitely,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>but you know, before twenty sixteen a special, and even

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one because of COVID, there was kind of

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 3>that talk of like it was a big deal when

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 3>a big name said I am playing the Olympics. I

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 3>will definitely play there. No one even really had to

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 3>say it out out loud. I don't remember players come

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 3>out in declaring they were going to play the Olympics.

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Just the qualifying field came out and all of those

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>guys played. And I was wondering if they would because

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 3>you had the Open, you had a week off, and

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 3>then you had the Olympics, and so I could have

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 3>seen some guys saying like, hey, I don't want to

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>have to I'm not going to go back and forth

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 3>to the States. I also don't want to stay in

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Europe for three weeks, so I'm not going to play

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the Olympics. But that really didn't happen. Everyone just kind

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>of took a week off down in resorts around like

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Spain and Portugal and places like that. I think, had

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 3>a nice week together or with their families, and then

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 3>they showed up to Paris ready to go.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean it shows in a way that the idea

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of playing some part of the calendar in Europe is feasible,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>especially this time of year. If you were going to

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>pick a time of year to do it, July and

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>August when when kids are out of school, would be

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the best way. Best way to do it because you

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>can lump in a vacation, you know, and and still

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>get the full experience. I thought this was a huge

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>arrival for the Olympics in golf, and in particular men's golf.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to be you know, I think that it

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>has been a huge event for the women since the inception.

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they've taken it, you know, very seriously. To me,

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>this was the first year where the men were fully

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>bought in, as you alluded to, Sean, Like, I remember

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>asking a similar question to a player. I was like,

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are you are you going to play the Olympics? Are

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you going? And they were emphatically like, yeah, yeah, I'm

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 1>going to the Olympics, right, And I think that that

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of the big change, you know. You

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Jason Day talked about how how much he regrets not

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>playing the first one, you know, and I think that's

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the unique aspects of this event is that

0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>like your your status in your I guess your eligibility

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>is not certain because of how stringent and difficult the

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>qualifying criteria is. Like being one of the four best

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Americans four years from now is really hard. Like for

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the guys, like any of the guys, even Scottie Scheffler

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to say like, oh, I'll be back for La I'll

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>be back for Riviera. That is not like being one

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of the two best players in your country from your

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>country is so difficult. And I think that adds like

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>a layer to the competition. It adds a significance and

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.479
<v Speaker 1>as this event continues to grow in popularity, I think

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and history, I think it adds a significance of like, hey,

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming down the stretch, I'm going for a metal

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and then in the back and in the back of

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the head is like, I don't know if I'll ever

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 1>be back here. Like I think that is that one

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of the neat things about the every four years, when

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you create that type of scarcity, it is a double

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>sided scarcity. It's not just I'm one of the best

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.439
<v Speaker 1>players in the world. I have to be clearly one

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>of the best four or two players from my country

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and one of the best players in the world to qualify.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And this only happens every four years, so I really

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>probably am only going to get one shot. The realistic

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>aspect of the Olympics is four players for those top

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty players like you probably only will get

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>two or three shots at the Olympics at the most

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in your in your lifetime, and and for the Americans,

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>it's I think it's more like you're probably going to

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>get one shot, because I mean, is Xander the first

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>repeat Olympic performer.

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 3>There's a handful of guys who have played all three,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 3>but you're talking about like Ryan Fox from New Zealand.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or Rory from Ireland or Hideki from Japan. You know,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like I think, you know, some of the other countries

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that might be easier, but in the American like, I

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>don't think there. I think Xander might be the only

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>repeat American performer.

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're gonna Colin was also in twenty twenty one,

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>which I mean you're gonna have to be. But again,

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 3>you have to be a top ten player in the

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 3>world if you're an American, not for all four years,

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 3>but once that four years swings around again, you're gonna

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 3>have to be in the top ten in the world.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 3>And to stay in the top ten for you know,

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 3>four years or to be back four years later is

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 3>a pretty impressive and not an easy position.

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a great point and it kind

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>of goes with some of the longevity talk that we've

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>done recently on this podcast. If you can say you've

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>won multiple medals, that's gonna be something that And as

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 2>careers are getting shorter, that means that you've been relevant

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 2>for at least four years right, playing well, and then

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 2>four years later. I think it's gonna be rare and

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a subtle accomplishment that as we talk

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 2>about medals stacking up, like where does that rank with

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>a major championship win and all that. I think as

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>a mark of longevity, participation in the Olympics is going

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 2>to be a cool way to look at somebody's career.

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that way a lot about like Ryder Cup

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and on the international side, President's Cup appearances. When you

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>scroll down and you see like all the years that

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>they've been on a Ryder Cup team. When you start

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to see people that have played in five Ryder Cups,

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like, WHOA, that's a that's a crazy long career.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you know, even too, if you get

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>two Olympics as an American, that is that you were

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you were a player for a long time, because like

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>it's just so hard to be one of the four

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>best Americans especially now that everybody's going to be playing

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>in this conceivably for the future. Let's talk a little

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bit about the players and the performance. Uh, you know,

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Scottie Scheffler's had like a crazy year. I don't want

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to be a prisoner of the moment, but was this

0:37:56.520 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the most impressive final round of the year from them

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>or a most impressive round.

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 3>The sixty three that the players is up there? I'm

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 3>not being a homer, I promise, But you talk about

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>find Lois find around by a champion.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Just wait, wait till what he does at the ultimate

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>prize with that three shot lead.

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 3>He's that's the only thing really missing from his resume

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 3>at this point, but Lois find around in player's history.

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 3>He was five back against a good leaderboard. Wyndham and

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Xander were up there. He'd been injured earlier in the week,

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 3>and honestly, a lot of that player's performance I think

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 3>just said so much about Scotty and his gift because

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't swing it the way he wanted because of

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 3>the injury, and so he was really just creating shots

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 3>with his hands, and which is very antithetical to how

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 3>the golf swing has been taught for a long time

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 3>about using big muscles and minimizing the role of the hands,

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 3>and so I think it just shows that kind of

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 3>innate gift that Scotty has that was on display again

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Sunday in Paris. But I think the way he turned

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 3>it on and I appreciated the way he talked about

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 3>making the decision to be more aggressive. I do think

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 3>sometimes in this era of data in golf, and I'm

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>not knocking the data boys, you know, it's just about

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>giving yourself the most chances, whether that be on a

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 3>hole or in a week, and then hoping the chips

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.280
<v Speaker 3>fall your way. So you know, maybe pound middle of greens,

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 3>don't be too aggressive and just give yourself as many

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 3>birdie putts as possible. And Scotty talked about how when

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 3>rom was up by four he made the conscious decision

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 3>to be more aggressive and then he pulled it off,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>and I thought that was just enlightening, and then showed

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 3>again the scale of like when he wanted to turn

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 3>it on. He turned it on and shot twenty nine

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 3>in the back and won a gold medal.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna pooh pooh his performance. I thought the

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>back nine at the Masters was or his last like

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>eleven holes at the Masters on a very firm, demanding

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>setup where that tournament was up for grabs, and then

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 2>he completely slammed the door. This was obviously very impressive too,

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>but I think the Master's probably ranks a little higher

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 2>for me.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's something I wanted to talk about, Sean. Is

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.879
<v Speaker 1>what you the aggressiveness, And I think I think we've

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>gotten to this state with a lot of and I

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to put everybody under the blanket, but a

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of the data and analytics community is like you

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:17.439
<v Speaker 1>play the same way all the time, and like I've

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>just always believed like you have to have a pulse

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>as a player of what's going on. If you're down

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>for and you've got nine holes to go, sure I

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>could make I could run in a bunch of twenty footers,

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>or I could miss my target five feet right, you know,

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>four times in a row, you know, and have right

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>pins that you know, I hit it closer than I

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>expect to. But when you're Scotti Scheffler and you're playing

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>really well, guess what you're You're just your potential miss

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>radius is very small. And I think he was in

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a spot where he was swinging really well, and he

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>he put his foot on the gas, and I think, like,

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe this is like if you want to win

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf tournaments, if you want to win

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of golf tournaments, you have to deviate and

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>play differently than the rest of the field. You know,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 1>And in an era where everybody plays safe, I think

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.720
<v Speaker 1>we saw Tommy Fleet would play very safe on eighteen.

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>He was protecting that silver metal on eighteen. But in

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>an era where everybody plays extremely cautious and safe, there

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of money left on the table if

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>you're able to play aggressive and pull it off. I

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think that is like one of the things that will

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>change over the next five years is that there will

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>be a zig back to players understanding, hey, this is

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a moment I can go take this, and I'm going

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to play a little bit more aggressively, especially because understanding

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>your own personal dispersion patters, Like when you're playing well,

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>your dispersion is a lot tighter than when it isn't.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I recently played a lot of golf last week,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and I played really well a few days, and those

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of days that like I was swaying, my body

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was moving well. I made sure my targets were a

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>little tighter. The day that I didn't feel good and

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I the swing didn't feel good, I played very conservatively,

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like I think that's where this is going to go

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>long term. And I think this might be a moment

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>where Scotty understands maybe what he can do when he

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>needs to do it. And I think that is an

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:41.240
<v Speaker 1>important aspect of this whole performance here is going forward.

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>How often do we see Scotty when he's right around

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the hunt put the pedal to the metal and try

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and push it because he's been successful now doing so.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.720
<v Speaker 3>It's also what he says is one of his skills.

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 3>We did a Q and A with him before the

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Players Championship this year and I asked him, what do

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 3>you think separates you from the rest of your peers

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 3>with ball striking? Your numbers are incredible. He's obviously the

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>best iron player on the planet, you know. I thought

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I might get a technical answer about club face rotation

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>or something, and instead he just really went to kind

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 3>of course management and self management and really knowing when

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 3>to pick his spots and when he feels comfortable with

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 3>a yardage and waned and everything else, but he feels

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 3>like it's a shot he can hit. He goes right

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 3>at it, and then he is really good at knowing

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of when to back off and aim at the

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 3>middle of the green if maybe he doesn't have a

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 3>great yardage or he's between clubs, and so that is

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>one of Scotty's skills and it has allowed him to

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>separate himself. And another thing I find really interesting about

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 3>him and Joseph and I have talked about it is

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 3>he keeps leading the tour in greens and regulation like

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 3>he has for the last three years, and there's not

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 3>often you know, your guy who leads in shros gained

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>approach isn't always leading greens and regulation. And I look

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>back to I always remember when I was growing up,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Joe Durant like always led greens in regulation. But it's

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 3>because he's just hitting it a middle of green all day.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't a long hitter. He's hitting long irons in

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the green, not making you know, a

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 3>ton of birdies on longer courses or just like how

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 3>shorter hitters always led in driving accuracy, but Scotty like

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.439
<v Speaker 3>is both leading in stros gain approach. So he's hitting

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 3>it close, but he's also making sure to hit a

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 3>ton of greens, which isn't always the case, and doing

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 3>so hard setups too. Right, he's playing, you know, one

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 3>of the harder schedules of the year of anyone. So

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I just think Scotty Obviously he's got kind of athleticism,

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 3>he's got the innate gift with his hands. He's a

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 3>great shot shaper, but he also is just really good

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 3>at picking his.

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Spots, and maybe even more so Sean the I think

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 2>it's really impressive the way he ranks so highly in

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 2>strokes gained around the green, when he ranks so highly

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>in greens and regulation because those are a.

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Little chipped in yesterday on the front nine, and you

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 3>look at all of his wins. There are holeouts in

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 3>the fun round, his first Masters, his first players, actually

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 3>this year's players. You hold a wedge, A lot of

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 3>his wins have holeouts from off the green. Final round

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 3>is kind of crazy.

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, if you're hitting a bunch of greens, it

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>is hard to rank high and strokes gained around the

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 2>green because you're giving yourself fewer opportunities, not like strokes

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>gain per shot, but strokes gaining around the green. It's

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable to see how well rounded Scotty is that normally

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 2>those guys who are at the top of strokes gaining

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 2>around the green are guys like Kevin nah in his heyday,

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 2>where he was missing a lot of greens and giving

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>himself a lot of opportunities. So I think it is

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 2>a testament to just how well rounded Scotty is.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Joseph, what stands out to you about the way Scotty's

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of move his way around the golf

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 1>course strategically.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I disagree a little bit with the okay now

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>fully pedal down versus completely playing conservatively. Like I don't

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 2>think the way that golfers should play golf course changes

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>that radically with the situation, but where I do think

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 2>it changes a lot, and this was I think it's

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 2>an underrated skill of players is to understand conditions and

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>how that impacts their dispersion. And like you're saying, Andy,

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.280
<v Speaker 2>when you're really dialed or when you have a great number,

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 2>understanding that your dispersion is going to be a little

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>bit tighter. So this past weekend on Sunday at the

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Golf National is pretty soft and there was almost no

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>wind like that's an opportunity where you can be a

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 2>little bit more aggressive because short sighting yourself isn't going

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>to be as big of a deal. And when you're

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>not hitting it into a significant amount of wind, like,

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>your dispersion is going to be tighter. And I think

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>that there are a lot of golfers who don't know

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 2>how to adapt their strategies, even if it only has

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to be adjusted a little bit. I think Scotty and

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Ted Scott Ted Scott his cat, he does understand this

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 2>stuff very well. Scotty always gives him credit for it.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I think they understand when they can press a little bit.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>So I think Scotty does a remarkable job of being

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 2>hitting shots that are still relatively conservative. He birdied sixteen

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 2>par three to a tough pin, but he's not just

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 2>going directly at the pin. He's still aiming a little

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 2>bit left and allowing it. If it doesn't cut, he's

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 2>still fine. Like eighteen, he hit a pretty conservative shot

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 2>into the green to make sure that he wasn't going

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 2>to go in the water. He does a really good

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 2>job of picking his spots, as Sean said, So I

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think that it's like Scotty feels pedal down one day,

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>conservative the next, but just understanding that middle ground how

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>the conditions impact it. That's an underrated skill that I think.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody's as good as Scotty is

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>at that.

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting contrast to Rory from Sunday. You know,

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.280
<v Speaker 3>he said that he hit the shot he wanted into fifteen.

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>He saw his two playing partners go long because they

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 3>rode the wind, and he tried to, I think, go

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.479
<v Speaker 3>under the wind a little bit and it never caught

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 3>any of it and so it ended up short. So

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not saying Rory macroy doesn't know how

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.760
<v Speaker 3>to read the wind, but he said that an improper

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 3>judgment of the situation is what led to his ball

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:42.720
<v Speaker 3>in the water on fifteen.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I think the other thing that can happen too with

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 1>like the wind in particular that shot in what makes

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it so tough. It seemed like he took a little

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>off it. When he takes something off and you're playing

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 1>down wind, the wind can knock it down. Like what

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>makes you ride the wind is spin. So when you

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>hit a shot hard, you know that that ball is

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>going to carry with the wind. More when you hit

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 1>something soft like I've always found like the hardest shots

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and I I you know, in a moderate wind, I

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 1>prefer to hit approach shots all day long into the

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.359
<v Speaker 1>wind because it's so much more predictable than when you're

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>playing downwind, particularly with wedges and short irons. It's where

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you like, you just lose a lot of control of

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>carry distance, especially if you're taking yardage off a ball,

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>because that ball just doesn't spin as much. And I

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>think that's probably what happened in you know, describe and

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 1>describing that is like the wind just inst carrying it

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and knocked it down a little, because you know, if

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>you just think about the way the ball goes up

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's down wind, it can get your trajectory knocked down. Yeah,

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, like we talk about how golf

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>is played so much between between your ears, and this

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>is the stuff. This between your ears like to be

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>like Scotty is a savant in being able to read situations,

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>lies everything, like the shots from the rough, like I think,

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 1>like the chippens, like all this stuff is having a

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>supreme understanding of how the ball is going to react

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 1>off the club face reading lies like you know those

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 1>shots on seventeen and eighteen out of the rough were

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>incredible shots. They were you know there. I know Brandle

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>talked a lot, and I think this is a great

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>point about his upright swing, the benefits of an upright

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 1>swing with rough, but there's also a supreme understanding of

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>what the ball is going to do, and that could

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>be partly ted Scott to but this is this is like,

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the stuff, like understanding how the ball

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to come out, because if you misjudge it,

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you can look like a fool.

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 3>It also streaks to the quality of his strike because

0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the quickest way to get kind of an unpredictable result

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 3>from a shot, especially with wind in line everything else,

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 3>is to mishit it. So not only is he hitting

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 3>it solidly all the time, but he's also hitting it

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 3>with consistent launch characteristics that he knows how it's going

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 3>to respond to those different reactions. And you know, his

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 3>distance control is great, but the most important thing with

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 3>good distance control is hitting it solidly. So there is

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 3>a lot of that too. But I think it goes

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 3>back again to like the physical just he hits it

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 3>so solidly and hits it so well that it's easier

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 3>to predict. I'm not discounting what you said abou him

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 3>being a savamp, but I think that makes it easier

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 3>for him to also predict it when he's hitting it.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>That well, all right, let's take a quick break to

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:49.439
<v Speaker 1>talk about one of the coolest projects that I have seen.

0:50:50.480 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>He's become a friend of mine. Josh Pettitt, who runs

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the Alistair mackenzie Institute. He produced a few years ago

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful book that we did a podcast on called

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>The McKenzie Reader. He's got a new book that he's reproducing.

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He's reproducing the famous golf architecture book that was written

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>by Alis McKenzie. This was a book that Als McKenzie

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>used to give out to every club that he worked at.

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>He would he would bring the book with him and

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 1>hand out. It was really like a kind of party,

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a marketing tool. That's why a lot of architects back

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 1>in the day wrote so much. It was a marketing tool.

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a way for them to get their thoughts out there.

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So these this is Alis McKenzie's book that really details

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>his thoughts on golf architecture. So what Josh has done is,

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get a lot of bad reprints. Like

0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>if you go on and buy this, it's it's kind

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of just a crappy version of the book of the

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 1>original book, the sketches won't be as beautiful or show

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 1>off as well. What Golf what What Josh Pettit has

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 1>done here is he has reprinted the book. So he's

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>done his own type setting. He's set the type setting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, manually, So he's like, you know, he's

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>done that, Like this is painful work that he has

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>done to like the paper sourcing, Like this high quality

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.719
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0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:19.480
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0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>So he is he has reset this book and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful, beautiful addition to your library. I have

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the Mackenzie Reader. It is by far my favorite book

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.240
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0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the pay reading it, like it is a beautiful, beautiful book.

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:41.560
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<v Speaker 1>of work. All right, let's get back to the Olympics chat.

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Does this make you feel different only about Scotty Scheffler's

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 1>year at all?

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It does for me. I think going into this event,

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:11.320
<v Speaker 2>player of the Year was pretty up for grabs, and

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that it should be declared now, even

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 2>though it kind of was on the telecast. I don't

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 2>know if everyone caught that, but I kind of leaned

0:54:19.840 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Xander after he had two major wins. Now, I do

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 2>think this changes the calculus quite a bit, especially because

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics have seemed to arrive in a big way

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know that it's necessary to say that

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 2>they rank exactly with a major or figure out exactly

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.880
<v Speaker 2>where it stands. But to me now it's hard to

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>look at Scotty's season and think that somebody had a

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 2>better season with a gold medal to his name, Especially

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Xander had a chance to win this and didn't get

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>it done at all. It's very clear that Scotti Scheffler

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 2>is the best player in the world. He has I think,

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.399
<v Speaker 2>in seventeen starts this year, he's finished outside the top

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 2>ten twice at Amex and at Pinehurst, like it's just

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 2>a remark gooble season. And he again won this week

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:07.120
<v Speaker 2>losing strokes putting like he's dominated. So to me, unless

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>something crazy happens the rest of the year, which I

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think is really possible since I don't view the

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 2>FedEx Cut playoffs on anywhere near the stage that I

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 2>view the Olympics or the Majors. Sorry, Sean, I think

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 2>it's I think Scotti Schefler is probably going to be

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the Player of the Year unless something crazy happens.

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It's voted on by peers too, and I just have

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a hard time believing in that that vein that the

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>peers would in any way not vote Scottie at this

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>point after what they've gone through.

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 3>And there's two schools of thought with Player of the Year.

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.919
<v Speaker 3>There's either who was the best player week in week

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>out or whose season would you rather have? And it

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.480
<v Speaker 3>can be different. The latter usually skews more towards major performance.

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 3>The other is more for just you know, week in

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 3>week out, counting you know, regular event wins as well.

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.879
<v Speaker 3>I look back to like when Brooks and Rory were

0:55:58.320 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of the top two players for Player of the

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Year twenty nineteen. Brooks had a Major but hadn't done

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 3>a ton outside of that, maybe had won one other event,

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 3>and then Rory, you know, won the FedEx Cup, was

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 3>really consistent, and the players voted on Rory. But I

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 3>think with the gold medal now Scotty checks both boxes.

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Week in week out, He's been the best player, and

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I think you could argue that even though Xander has

0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 3>more majors, in some ways, I could see Scotty having

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 3>the season that players would actually prefer to have. You

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 3>have a major, you throw in a players and then

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 3>a gold medal, I think, and more wins. And I

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 3>think the whole of that in the variety of different

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 3>kinds of titles that he won, especially with the gold

0:56:35.560 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 3>being a pretty coveted prize. Now, I think, like Joseph said,

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that his season checks both boxes. So outside

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 3>of Xander sweeping the Fedest Cup playoffs and winning all

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:46.720
<v Speaker 3>three events, I think it's Scotti's.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. To me, I'm in the same boat. I'd love

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to disagree here, but I think like it was a

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I kind of was looking at Xander's year with the

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 1>two majors and being like, you know, two majors too

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>drastic different courses. I know Scotti's won basically like everything

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 1>for a little while, like he went bananas on a

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of different golf courses. But this is the this

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>is to be the cherry on the top. There's no

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>way that any I don't think. I mean Xander, if

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>he ran the table in the playoffs, like I just

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I still don't think I would feel differently about about

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>their two seasons, even though that'd be crazy impressive and

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 1>something we've never seen before. I think i'd still feel

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>the same way I feel now where Scotti has just

0:57:38.400 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean extraordinary, extraordinary year, and I think, like you know,

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 1>when you when you think about everything that has happened

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>with Scotty Scheffler, it's it's also impressive because he's handled,

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>he's been able to handle the ascension and the fame

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that's come with his play. And you know, I think

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Detective Gillis probably played a part in his

0:58:01.760 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 1>popularity increase, but I think the thing it's impressive that

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>he's been able, Like I think this is something that

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of bigger players would agree is like challenging

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is getting used to being the guy, and he's carried

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 1>he's taken it so in stride and and the play

0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>has has just been been phenomenal. And this is just

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the latest example of uh, you know where I have

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to imagine if you're Tommy Fleetwood Hideki, you kind of

0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 1>leave leave this week really happy about your metal performances,

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but also scratching your head as to like I can't

0:58:39.320 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 1>believe that guy got me, you know, from where he

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 1>was because it didn't look like he was going to

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>win or even potentially medal, and then all of a sudden,

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>in a flash, he wins the wins the golf tournament.

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Andy a takeaway for me that I think kind of

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:58.280
<v Speaker 2>is tightly related to that. There's some debate like did

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Fleetwood choke? Was this another situation where Tommy Fleetwood

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't get it done? And I kind of have mixed

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 2>feelings about that, But to me, the biggest takeaway is

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that Scotty Scheffler is playing. There's just a new level

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that we haven't seen anywhere recently that very few guys

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 2>can actually access. That they can play that way for

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 2>four days. And I think you made a great point.

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 2>Following the Masters, Colin Morikawa more or less said Scotty's

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 2>better than I am. I think a lot of players

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room, virtually everybody knows Scotty Scheffler is

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>clearly the best player in the world. I am not that,

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder if deep down how Xander Schoffley feels

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:42.480
<v Speaker 2>if he thinks that he's actually on Scotty Scheffler's level.

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I would find it hard to believe that there's anybody

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.320
<v Speaker 2>else on the planet who thinks they're on Scotty's level.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think this was the year.

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I can see John Rahm thinking that.

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:53.320
<v Speaker 2>But certainly the par two after yesterday, the gulf between

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:56.439
<v Speaker 2>John Ram and Scotti Scheffler got a lot larger this year.

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>So that to me is like twenty twenty four is

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the year that Scott Scheffler planted a flag and put

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 2>a new baseline that we haven't seen in professional golf.

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.120
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the biggest takeaway for me to

1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Fleetwood, like choke or not. Maybe he should have

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 2>closed a little stronger, but he is not a thought player.

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I like, I struggle with this because, like that up

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and down on seventeen was really hard, but he birdied sixteen.

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>The birdie on sixteen was impressive. I think in calm conditions,

1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:28.240
<v Speaker 2>playing the last five even just isn't going to get

1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it done. Those are hard holes, but Scotty's just better.

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.520
<v Speaker 2>That's that's where I land. It's not necessarily a choke,

1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 2>but he's just not good enough to be a Scotty

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Scheffler who's in rhythm.

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like he got a really tough break

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>on fourteen too. That was the That was the difference

1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>when I when I think back, and he might he

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:46.520
<v Speaker 1>probably chose the wrong club.

1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:47.680
<v Speaker 2>You should have hit a better shot.

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he hit a really good shot. I think

1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they they hit the wrong club. They I think I

1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:54.240
<v Speaker 1>got the telcast they were saying he went down to

1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:57.080
<v Speaker 1>seven wood, like he went back and I think, I mean,

1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the shot looked really good, but I you know, I

1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was looking at seven wood two fifty whatever, and I

1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, that's a big seven wood, And I think

1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>that was like a mirror, like he didn't hit the

1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:12.040
<v Speaker 1>right club. I think facts and afterwards like long's not

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<v Speaker 1>bad here after he hit it, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a situation where just kind of misplayed the situation

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<v Speaker 1>rather than an execution error. That's the thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>like people people, I feel like execution errors and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can this can parlay into the next discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>But execution errors are what you should be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you feel like someone lets a tournament go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, golf is extraordinarily hard, and I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>could be some of this too, But like Fleetwood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed a fairway on seventeen, and then he missed

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<v Speaker 1>a green, which shouldn't be super you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it was a terrible swing. Either of them were

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<v Speaker 1>terrible swings. And then he got a really tough break

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<v Speaker 1>with where the ball ended up with that like thick

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<v Speaker 1>ruff behind him, and that made that up and down

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<v Speaker 1>like impossible. If that ball's two inches the closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the hole, I think that it's probably a simple up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. If it goes into the thick rough, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's an easier up and down than what he

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<v Speaker 1>was left. And then you know with fourteen, his ball

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<v Speaker 1>not getting down into the bunker and staying on that lip.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just that was a really bad break. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is like part of what the difference of golf

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<v Speaker 1>tournaments a lot of times ends up being, like you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta bounce here. You got to bounce here over seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two holes and like down the stretch winning time. He

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<v Speaker 1>got two kind of pretty shitty breaks in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like how it whears, ball ended up, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference. Like I think you add those two up,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably equals a shot in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he gets one of the two up and down

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets to the bottom of the bunker or

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<v Speaker 1>the or the you know, into one of the defined

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<v Speaker 1>cuts of rough where he's not on the edge. I

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<v Speaker 1>think someone who just failed to execute down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Two players were John Rahm and Xander Schoffley. John Rom

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<v Speaker 1>has to be the biggest disappointment here. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>four shot lead standing on the eleventh hole and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even end up on the metal stage. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was an example of when you're playing for something

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<v Speaker 1>that has substantial meaning and what can happen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this would happen at a at a live event.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would happen at a run of

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<v Speaker 1>the mill PGA Tour event. And this is why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty confident associating a very high position for the Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>in the pro golf hierarchy of great tournaments. John Rom

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of just faded away shot thirty nine on

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<v Speaker 1>the back nine, and and to go from twenty under

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<v Speaker 1>in a four shot lead, looking like the tournament was

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<v Speaker 1>over to T five was was shocking. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest shock of the of the event. Joseph,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you how do you leave this tournament feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about John Rom.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with I agree with everything you said about this,

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<v Speaker 2>his collapse kind of being validation of how special the

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<v Speaker 2>event is, because there are very few tournaments that can

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<v Speaker 2>create that kind of intensity that it results in a meltdown. Separately,

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<v Speaker 2>I leave feeling fine about John Rom.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's been a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of overreactions to how bad of a year he's had.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he really he's got a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 2>on in his personal life aside, I know, like his

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<v Speaker 2>wife's going through a challenging pregnancy, and he's had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of kids, changed tours, he had two really bad

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<v Speaker 2>events this year, the PGA and the Masters, and otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>I think if there were a major three weeks weeks

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<v Speaker 2>from now, John ram would be one of the favorites,

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<v Speaker 2>and deservedly, he'd be well behind Scotty, he'd be behind Xander,

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<v Speaker 2>and after that I think he and Rory would be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close. So I think John Rahm, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>last month or so, has kind of reasserted that he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top players in the game. But I

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<v Speaker 2>fully agree with you that both he and xanders collapses

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<v Speaker 2>are a signal that this event meant something. Especially with

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<v Speaker 2>that particular golf course, it can result in some stressful shots,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see who has their game when there are

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<v Speaker 2>shots under pressure. So I agree with everything you said,

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<v Speaker 2>but still come away from it thinking, like, in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, John Rahm is going to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top five golfers in the world. I feel pretty

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<v Speaker 2>confident in that. Where do you Lanshawan Rom.

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<v Speaker 3>On that front nine on Sunday looked like the guy

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<v Speaker 3>from early twenty twenty three, and I think I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>it a couple of times. Just felt relentless, like just

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<v Speaker 3>kept pounding greens and hitting them and giving him birdy

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities and just kind of kept coming at the Masters

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<v Speaker 3>that he won when he chased down Brooks, like Brooks

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<v Speaker 3>sprinted out to that lead, but rom just kept coming

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually chased him down and passed him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like a strong finishing kick in a you know, fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>hundred or whatever. And Scotty sort of did that today.

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<v Speaker 3>But then Rom on the back nine. The interesting thing

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<v Speaker 3>is the short putts and then the te shots missing left,

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<v Speaker 3>and that can be a swing thing, equipment thing, who

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, But in that span between the start

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty three where he won like four out

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<v Speaker 3>of six or three out of five, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>went through a lull and then he won the Masters.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept missing left, like when that power cut isn't cutting,

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<v Speaker 3>he misses left, and that's what hurt him off the

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<v Speaker 3>tee Sunday, and that's what you know, hurt him, can

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<v Speaker 3>hurt him at times. I don't know the cause. I

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<v Speaker 3>know Faxon mentioned an alignment issue that Rom and Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Phillips had worked out, so maybe that was it. But

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<v Speaker 3>the other thing, too, I think, is just how crazy

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<v Speaker 3>things get on Sunday and how many judgments we make

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<v Speaker 3>from them, Like you look at Zander and Xander at

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<v Speaker 3>Wells Fargo, look like the Xander that couldn't close, will

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<v Speaker 3>he ever close gets it done, lips it in at

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<v Speaker 3>Valhalla and squeaks by Bryson, and then it Truon looks

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<v Speaker 3>like a killer, and we're like, this new Xander is here,

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<v Speaker 3>who's unflappable, is gonna win five six majors, has figured

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<v Speaker 3>it out, he's a force, and two weeks later looks

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<v Speaker 3>like the guy almost from Wells Fargo where he just

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get it done On Sunday, So I do think

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<v Speaker 3>there's more pressure. You know, it's harder to hit shots

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<v Speaker 3>on the golf course and on the driving range. It's

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<v Speaker 3>harder to hit good shots in a tournament versus a

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<v Speaker 3>casual round, and so it's harder to hit good shots

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday versus Thursday. So there's some of that. But

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<v Speaker 3>also golf too is just like this crazy game with

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<v Speaker 3>wild variants, and Sunday afternoon gets the most attention, and

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<v Speaker 3>so what we see Sunday afternoon leads to the biggest judgments,

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<v Speaker 3>as it should. But Xander, I think it's just proof

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<v Speaker 3>that storylines and narratives can just change so rapidly based

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<v Speaker 3>on really only a handful of holes.

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<v Speaker 1>Handful of holes in a handful of outcomes. Right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you think about, like the number of times you have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win over the course of your career

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<v Speaker 1>is still I would say, like I you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>my college statistics classes that are like, you know, decades

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<v Speaker 1>away or decades from now, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen twenty years now, they would that's still like if

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<v Speaker 1>you added up like the most prolific players of our generation,

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<v Speaker 1>of any generation, that number of chances to win would

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<v Speaker 1>still be a statistically irrelevant number, right, isn't it? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it, like sixteen hundred or something, is like the

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<v Speaker 1>number that would say, like you can determine if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is a clutch player. So I think that's it. One

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<v Speaker 1>thing I loved about you know, you talked about Ram

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<v Speaker 1>the relentlessness, that word, and I think we hadn't seen

1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the relentlessless. And I think like there's an aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>Rom's game when he's clicking that I really admire, and

1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he kind of brings that very few players I've seen bring.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a physicality to it, like with his stature and

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<v Speaker 1>the way he plays golf, like you know, just the

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<v Speaker 1>way you described it, pounding fairways and greens, like there

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<v Speaker 1>is just like this. There's a presence that he has

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<v Speaker 1>when he is when he is in the lead, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like I think that some of this has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with his stature, but like he feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a bull, you know, in there and like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>move him off his position. I thought it was just

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<v Speaker 1>shocking to see him get into where he got and

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<v Speaker 1>in for it to slip away and it may you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I would I would adventure, I would agree that

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<v Speaker 1>like there was like that, I'm not worried about John

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<v Speaker 1>Rohm next year. I think the last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>have been like a very nice turnaround for a player

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<v Speaker 1>that had a really rough start to his season with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on in his life. I will say

1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that I think there was an added weight to this

1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:15.360
<v Speaker 1>tournament because I believe that that John Rahm into probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit lesser an extent. Rory McElroy viewed this

1:10:18.760 --> 1:10:23.519
<v Speaker 1>event as like, hey, this winning a gold medal would

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<v Speaker 1>really redeem what you know was a disappointing year. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>For Rory, I think the disappointment came with just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just say Pinehurst, the disappointment of Pinehurst. The

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<v Speaker 1>gold medal could save that. For Rom it was everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how lives changed me as a player. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what can change the narrative on me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would have. I think if John Rohm walked

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<v Speaker 1>away with a gold medal, it would be like John

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<v Speaker 1>Ram's back. Is he at the level of Scotty and

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<v Speaker 1>Xander when he's cooking? That's what we would have been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about on this podcast and for seventy for sixty

1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:06.040
<v Speaker 1>three holes or sixty four holes. You know, John rom

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<v Speaker 1>was back and he looked like, you know, especially playing

1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:13.280
<v Speaker 1>with Xander Schoffley, a different player than Xander Schoffley. He

1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:16.760
<v Speaker 1>left him in the dust, and then it all came

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<v Speaker 1>crashing down. So I think, like I think the takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>for Rom, this is a really bad year, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to the rest of the year with Live.

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<v Speaker 1>For him, I think he's going to look back and say,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do these career narratives when you look back

1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on great careers from the eighties and nineties, and like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times you'll see like there's one or

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<v Speaker 1>two year gaps where they just weren't the same player.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we'll look back on this and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is all These are all the things that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a bunch of kids, he went to live

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<v Speaker 1>and this year was one of the years that was

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of a lost John Ram year.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned Rory and we talked about physicality, and I

1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:02.120
<v Speaker 3>was at Wells Fargo this year and honestly, Wells Fargo

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<v Speaker 3>when he went eight under on eight holes and lapped

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<v Speaker 3>Xander felt like one of the most physically violent things

1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:09.800
<v Speaker 3>I've seen on a golf course and it felt like

1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:13.000
<v Speaker 3>old Rory, and I felt like we got glimpses of

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<v Speaker 3>him this week. Do you remember he you know, second

1:12:15.040 --> 1:12:17.559
<v Speaker 3>shot in a par five, bounces off the flagstick, makes

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<v Speaker 3>that run to start the back nine before hitting in

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<v Speaker 3>the water, and I am kind of curious where Rory

1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:23.960
<v Speaker 3>goes from here. He kind of took a shot at

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<v Speaker 3>himself in his post round comments, saying he was the

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<v Speaker 3>nearly man of the last three years, that he hasn't

1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:32.000
<v Speaker 3>gotten it done, and he even kind of said that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm tired of trying to take positives. I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to win. And you know, Rory subscribes to

1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:38.320
<v Speaker 3>that kind of growth mindset they talk a lot about

1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:42.080
<v Speaker 3>in contemporary psychology, where you try to endure the hardships

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<v Speaker 3>by finding the positives, like, yeah, I might have lost,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a learning experience and I can grow from this,

1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:49.320
<v Speaker 3>and that's where the growth mindset comes from, of like,

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<v Speaker 3>these are all basically steps in the process to getting

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<v Speaker 3>to where I want to go, and it does probably

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<v Speaker 3>help lessen the sting of losses which Rory has experience recently.

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<v Speaker 3>But even he kind of mentioned it seems like I

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<v Speaker 3>just need to care about winning now. At this point,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been enough close calls, you know. I'm sure he's

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<v Speaker 3>done the mental inventory, he's learned all he's going to

1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:12.600
<v Speaker 3>learn from these close calls. Like it seemed like he

1:13:12.640 --> 1:13:15.040
<v Speaker 3>felt like now like I just need to win and

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<v Speaker 3>worry only about winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree. I think pretty much every year after

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<v Speaker 2>the last like six years, the spin at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of Rory's major season has been like what he learned

1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:29.880
<v Speaker 2>and why it's going to be different the next year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the exact same thing, but I almost think

1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:35.680
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of similar to players saying that they're not

1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:37.800
<v Speaker 2>getting there. They're hitting the ball a lot better than

1:13:37.800 --> 1:13:40.600
<v Speaker 2>the results they're getting, Like at some point you just

1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:43.240
<v Speaker 2>have to do it. So in the same way that

1:13:43.280 --> 1:13:45.679
<v Speaker 2>he's probably fatigued about talking about it, like I'm also

1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:49.160
<v Speaker 2>a little fatigued about hearing about it, and like it

1:13:49.200 --> 1:13:51.120
<v Speaker 2>does just need to get the job done. So I

1:13:51.760 --> 1:13:54.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think that it's a negative, like he's getting himself

1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:58.200
<v Speaker 2>in the mix. But next year with Quail Hollow in

1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the major rotation, like the noise is going to be

1:14:00.640 --> 1:14:02.240
<v Speaker 2>loud and Roy just needs to get one across the

1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:03.400
<v Speaker 2>finish line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd agree. I think I think like the Pinehurst

1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:14.960
<v Speaker 1>experience and I think it was one that you can

1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:18.360
<v Speaker 1>take away a lot of different things from, but I

1:14:18.439 --> 1:14:21.679
<v Speaker 1>think the one thing that it should have taken away

1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>was like it was a Sunday where he made putts

1:14:25.040 --> 1:14:28.439
<v Speaker 1>until he didn't, you know, which I think has been

1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the problem. I think that was a big problem with

1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Saint Andrews and Lacc was he just like made nothing

1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:39.639
<v Speaker 1>and and then this this week. I think the takeaway

1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is like, you know, hey, like that quil Hollow run

1:14:45.280 --> 1:14:49.519
<v Speaker 1>can happen at at a at an event I care about.

1:14:49.800 --> 1:14:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't mean to take a shot at

1:14:53.200 --> 1:14:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the Wells Fargo, but that that that of that run,

1:14:56.840 --> 1:15:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that type of like explosiveness can happen at events that

1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:05.559
<v Speaker 1>care about. It is like, if you have the positive takeaway,

1:15:06.000 --> 1:15:08.439
<v Speaker 1>it's hard. I mean, this is this is why golf

1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:12.320
<v Speaker 1>is so compelling because there's only one winner and there's

1:15:12.920 --> 1:15:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a slew of world class players attempting to win these

1:15:15.840 --> 1:15:19.040
<v Speaker 1>events and for the most part, and I think this

1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:22.280
<v Speaker 1>is like the hard thing about about Rory's career. And

1:15:22.360 --> 1:15:26.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is like where the where it's you know,

1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:31.000
<v Speaker 1>what makes it so compelling is like Rory didn't lose

1:15:31.040 --> 1:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot early in his career, and as he's aged,

1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:41.240
<v Speaker 1>as he's gained perspective, as he's become our I would say,

1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a better golfer, he's lost more often like that that's

1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:49.439
<v Speaker 1>a hard thing to deal with, Like he's he's had

1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:53.280
<v Speaker 1>this frustration. I think he I think almost everybody that

1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:56.080
<v Speaker 1>has watched Rory McElroy would believe that he's a better

1:15:56.120 --> 1:16:01.000
<v Speaker 1>player now than in twenty fourteen. You know, more well rounded,

1:16:01.120 --> 1:16:03.840
<v Speaker 1>has more shots, can play more golf course as well,

1:16:04.640 --> 1:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>but at the same on the same token, he has

1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:13.120
<v Speaker 1>lost maybe some of that. Trying to think of the

1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:17.719
<v Speaker 1>right the right word, I think it's more like being naive.

1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I think, like like when you don't lose as much,

1:16:21.840 --> 1:16:25.400
<v Speaker 1>like you don't like there's like an invincibility. You think

1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:30.320
<v Speaker 1>about Tiger's like career, he didn't lose ever and then

1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he lost to why y Yang and and like there's like

1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a distinct difference, and I you know, the injuries and

1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:41.240
<v Speaker 1>personal life stuff like kind of mounted up. But like

1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:43.880
<v Speaker 1>there's this whole I have, like this whole like thought

1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of like if he never loses to hy Yang, like

1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:51.240
<v Speaker 1>does he does his career play out differently the rest

1:16:51.240 --> 1:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of the way, and I think I believe yes, But

1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like with Rory, like he's having to deal with this,

1:16:57.960 --> 1:17:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Like I think like there's like the mindset thing is,

1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:04.720
<v Speaker 1>like you're having to deal with the knowing that you

1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:09.519
<v Speaker 1>can lose when you play really well, and that's something

1:17:09.560 --> 1:17:11.599
<v Speaker 1>that he didn't have early in his career.

1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Where do you land, Sean, I think so, I mean,

1:17:15.000 --> 1:17:17.439
<v Speaker 3>I think scar tissues is a thing. I think when

1:17:17.479 --> 1:17:23.519
<v Speaker 3>you deal with a sport where like the minute changes

1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and in like at impact in the milliseconds of impact

1:17:27.040 --> 1:17:29.400
<v Speaker 3>lead to huge things. I always think of like players

1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:32.440
<v Speaker 3>who talked about when they would try to play conservatively

1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:34.400
<v Speaker 3>but they kind of knew the flag was over there

1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:36.040
<v Speaker 3>and they'd kind of just leave the face open a

1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:37.600
<v Speaker 3>little bit and you know, hate it over there. Like

1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:40.439
<v Speaker 3>the opposite. I think it's true too, and you have

1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:42.680
<v Speaker 3>that little bit of scar tissue of like maybe you

1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:44.479
<v Speaker 3>just kind of ease off it or just kind of

1:17:44.520 --> 1:17:48.519
<v Speaker 3>aim away from that flag. And it's just such a

1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:51.760
<v Speaker 3>mental game where the smallest things make such a big

1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:54.840
<v Speaker 3>difference that the slightest shift in mindset I think can

1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:57.880
<v Speaker 3>have a huge change. And so I do think when

1:17:57.920 --> 1:18:01.639
<v Speaker 3>you lose that kind of naivete where you know everything

1:18:01.680 --> 1:18:03.360
<v Speaker 3>seems to be going your way. We saw with Speed

1:18:03.439 --> 1:18:05.639
<v Speaker 3>as well, like twenty fifteen, nothing can go wrong, Everything

1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:09.000
<v Speaker 3>went his way and then gets punched in the mouth

1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.400
<v Speaker 3>at Augusta and he won a major after that, but

1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:18.400
<v Speaker 3>hasn't really been the same. I think that that matters because, yeah,

1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:20.479
<v Speaker 3>because of the huge impact that little things can have

1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:21.680
<v Speaker 3>in this game. And I just want to read the

1:18:21.720 --> 1:18:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Rory quote just why I'm accurately representing him, But this

1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:26.400
<v Speaker 3>was after his round on Sunday. He said, I feel

1:18:26.439 --> 1:18:29.040
<v Speaker 3>like I've been Golf's nearly man for the last three years.

1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:31.719
<v Speaker 3>It's all well and good saying I'm close and close

1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:34.479
<v Speaker 3>and close. Once I actually stepped through the threshold and

1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:36.439
<v Speaker 3>turn these near misses and close calls in the wings,

1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:40.559
<v Speaker 3>that's what I need to do. So it's interesting to

1:18:40.560 --> 1:18:44.160
<v Speaker 3>see if maybe if he shifts his mindset away from

1:18:44.280 --> 1:18:47.479
<v Speaker 3>kind of growth and learning towards just winning and getting

1:18:47.520 --> 1:18:50.720
<v Speaker 3>the thing done, maybe that's the change that's needed to

1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:53.320
<v Speaker 3>capitalize on all these experiences that preceded this.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's kind of wrap up here, but you know,

1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:01.599
<v Speaker 1>to wrap up, I'd love to hear one parting thought

1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.479
<v Speaker 1>on the Olympics, one thing in your notebook that you

1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:08.000
<v Speaker 1>hadn't got to and then we'll close this out.

1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:11.880
<v Speaker 2>You know. A family member of mine texted me this,

1:19:12.000 --> 1:19:14.759
<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was a great point seeing Novak

1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Djokovic win and express the emotion that he did, somebody

1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:24.760
<v Speaker 2>who's accomplished everything you can in tennis, almost indisputably the

1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:27.240
<v Speaker 2>greatest tennis player of all time, at least in my

1:19:27.280 --> 1:19:29.840
<v Speaker 2>mind as a casual tennis fan, saying it's probably the

1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.640
<v Speaker 2>biggest success he's had in his sporting career, more or

1:19:32.720 --> 1:19:35.439
<v Speaker 2>less saying that his career is complete. Just the range

1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:38.960
<v Speaker 2>of emotions on display at the Olympics was a huge

1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:42.719
<v Speaker 2>takeaway for me, very refreshing in the modern landscape, especially

1:19:42.720 --> 1:19:46.559
<v Speaker 2>with what's happening in golf. Seeing Scotti Scheffler crying as

1:19:46.600 --> 1:19:50.599
<v Speaker 2>the United States national anthem was playing this event. I'm

1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:53.599
<v Speaker 2>so bullish on and I think there's a little thing

1:19:53.600 --> 1:19:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I had in my notes of like how do we

1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:58.880
<v Speaker 2>feel about Riviera and like what kind of crowds it's

1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:02.400
<v Speaker 2>going to get. Like my understanding is the Olympics in

1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the United States is going to be a little more

1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:07.400
<v Speaker 2>spread out right with sites in like soccer games in Dallas,

1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and I really hope that they're able to get international

1:20:10.400 --> 1:20:14.080
<v Speaker 2>fans packed at riv as long as the fan presence

1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:16.519
<v Speaker 2>is going to be there. There are not many events

1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to be as excited for as the

1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Olympics moving forward. So I think just seeing that range

1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:22.559
<v Speaker 2>of emotions has really made me feel something as a

1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:25.800
<v Speaker 2>sports fan, and I'm just extremely excited about the future

1:20:25.840 --> 1:20:26.320
<v Speaker 2>of this event.

1:20:27.320 --> 1:20:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I think one unintended consequence. I don't think he did

1:20:30.320 --> 1:20:31.880
<v Speaker 3>it for this reason, but I was thinking about Rory

1:20:31.920 --> 1:20:34.720
<v Speaker 3>playing for Ireland instead of Great Britain. I think it

1:20:34.800 --> 1:20:37.200
<v Speaker 3>means that he might even have two Olympics left in him.

1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, who knows how long he

1:20:38.640 --> 1:20:41.240
<v Speaker 3>wants to play and play a full schedule to rack

1:20:41.320 --> 1:20:43.439
<v Speaker 3>up world rankings, but being one of the top two

1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:45.640
<v Speaker 3>players from Ireland, I feel like is something that he

1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:50.320
<v Speaker 3>could hold for eight more years. And I think this

1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:53.880
<v Speaker 3>week also my main bigger point. This was another week

1:20:53.880 --> 1:20:56.080
<v Speaker 3>that kind of illustrated some of the genius of Scotti Scheffler,

1:20:56.200 --> 1:20:58.200
<v Speaker 3>and it came about, I think from Brendan Quainn of

1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the Athletic who sort of asked Scotty, what does this

1:21:00.920 --> 1:21:03.280
<v Speaker 3>mean for your legacy? And Scotty was like, I don't

1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:06.080
<v Speaker 3>care about my legacy. You know, we're going to die

1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:08.640
<v Speaker 3>and in thirty years no one's gonna remember us. And

1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:13.280
<v Speaker 3>everyone kind of took that as this like nihilistic Nietzschean response,

1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:15.720
<v Speaker 3>but a I think there's some truth to it. You know,

1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:18.320
<v Speaker 3>try to name some major champions from nineteen sixty three.

1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:22.719
<v Speaker 3>You probably can't, some of us maybe can't. I can't.

1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:26.839
<v Speaker 3>And I think that gives Scotty a freedom to on Sunday.

1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:28.800
<v Speaker 3>He's not thinking about what does this mean? What is

1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:32.720
<v Speaker 3>it worth? I want to win this for, you know,

1:21:33.360 --> 1:21:36.320
<v Speaker 3>other reasons besides, he just wants to win. And so

1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I think he does this great job of balancing. He

1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:42.040
<v Speaker 3>cares deeply about competing and winning, but doesn't care about

1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:45.080
<v Speaker 3>it more than he needs to. He walks a really

1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:48.240
<v Speaker 3>fine line between it's very important to him in the

1:21:48.240 --> 1:21:51.640
<v Speaker 3>moment and then it's also not important to him afterwards,

1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.080
<v Speaker 3>and I think that helps him be the player he is.

1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's that's right. That there's never when

1:21:59.520 --> 1:22:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you we talk about like how hard it is to

1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>win these types of events because of the history, but

1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:08.479
<v Speaker 1>if you don't ascribe or associate any value to it,

1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Like if you think about like two players we talked

1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:15.360
<v Speaker 1>about struggling down the Stretch with Rory and Rom, I

1:22:15.400 --> 1:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>think that are two the people that talk the most

1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>about history and and you know what know everything that

1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>certain players did, like you know, you know, Rom can

1:22:25.320 --> 1:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>just rattle off you know, former major champs. Same with Rory,

1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know when you I don't know

1:22:33.960 --> 1:22:36.800
<v Speaker 1>if Scotty could do that, Scotty probably would just be like,

1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, And I think that's like, actually,

1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:44.880
<v Speaker 1>like a super valuable thing is not knowing in a way,

1:22:44.960 --> 1:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>because then it doesn't feel different than the heritage or

1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the you know, uh TPC Craig Ranch right like that

1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't feel different if you if you don't

1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>ascribe a historical value or understand the context of something.

1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:04.599
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think you're spot on there. It's

1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:08.759
<v Speaker 1>like another one of the the mindset things about Scotti

1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Scheffler that you look at and it's like, this is

1:23:10.920 --> 1:23:13.559
<v Speaker 1>a big advantage. I think like that one of the

1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>things that I just was, you know, we haven't touched

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>on this surprisingly with with Sean's Hideki stance and fandom.

1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:24.439
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the cool things is like the

1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>disappointment of Hideki Matsuyama last Olympics, not losing out on

1:23:30.240 --> 1:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the bronze medal in his home country.

1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:37.519
<v Speaker 3>On the final hole to get bronze alone Ja And.

1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just think about like the the disappointment that

1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that you know, probably stuck with him for a long time.

1:23:48.880 --> 1:23:51.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. I think when we look at Hideki's career,

1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a super impressive one with the masters, even

1:23:56.160 --> 1:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like down to like the Zozo winning that in from

1:23:59.439 --> 1:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>his home kind and you think about like the redemption story.

1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>We just talked a little bit about how it's not

1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:10.120
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed that you're going to be able to make it

1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>back to the stage, but to make it back the

1:24:13.040 --> 1:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>next Olympics and get the job done and get on

1:24:16.080 --> 1:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that podium. And I think like the last five years

1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:22.479
<v Speaker 1>of Hitdecki's career has been kind of weird. He had

1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that insane run and what was it twenty eighteen.

1:24:26.800 --> 1:24:30.600
<v Speaker 4>When seventeen going into eighteen, Yeah, it was like that

1:24:30.720 --> 1:24:33.600
<v Speaker 4>winter where he won four of six events that he

1:24:33.640 --> 1:24:36.080
<v Speaker 4>played in, and you know, it looks like he was

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:38.599
<v Speaker 4>the best player in the world and he hasn't been

1:24:38.600 --> 1:24:44.519
<v Speaker 4>able to for I think health reasons, really be at

1:24:44.520 --> 1:24:46.120
<v Speaker 4>the level that he could have been.

1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But he looked really good out there this week. I

1:24:50.920 --> 1:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>was like taken aback at some of the drives he hit.

1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he was. He was past Rory on a

1:24:56.800 --> 1:25:02.679
<v Speaker 1>drive that Faxon described as being pumbled. He past Xander

1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the day before on a couple t shots. And to me,

1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:10.880
<v Speaker 1>if Hideki has that in the tank, can somehow get

1:25:10.920 --> 1:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to a place where he's hitting the ball like that,

1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, do we have a couple more years of

1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>him being an elite player, because I think that's one

1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of the things that like over the last three or

1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>four years has slipped, is like Hideki isn't that first

1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>page player. We see glimpses of it. We saw it

1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>at Riviera where it's like, oh, yeah, he is that

1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>guy still, But like there's been just kind of like

1:25:34.640 --> 1:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>an inconsistency, and I think a lot of it's health related.

1:25:38.560 --> 1:25:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think the hard part too, we don't really

1:25:40.120 --> 1:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>know when he's healthy and when he's not. He's not

1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:43.960
<v Speaker 3>doing a ton of press conferences, he's not getting a

1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:45.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of English language interviews, so it's just hard to

1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:49.040
<v Speaker 3>know when he's healthy and when he's not, and how

1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:52.000
<v Speaker 3>much of the poor play is due to injury. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how long this stuff's been lingering.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guy's gonna stop flying Spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he still is? Do you think he

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<v Speaker 3>flew Spirit to Paris? Do they go to Paris?

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<v Speaker 1>He's gotta he's just got to take care of himself

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. No comment from he's got.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's got to be a private jet at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. Right. The Spirit thing was shocking, especially to

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<v Speaker 3>La from Columbus Now Columbus l A. There's not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of options. Maybe some Southwest in there with a

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<v Speaker 3>stop go to Burbank or something. I don't know, but uh,

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<v Speaker 3>i'd be curious. See you know what, does he fly

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<v Speaker 3>to Paris? Delta private?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who knows? Sean big thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have you know? I want to let you

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<v Speaker 1>leave as you're you know, your token for coming on

1:26:41.000 --> 1:26:43.559
<v Speaker 1>and discussing golf with us. I want you to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to leave. You know what, what are we what

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to be excited about the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks for the for golf with golf Golf's ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>prize on the table. What are what are you watching?

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<v Speaker 2>Comcast Business Class top ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Just Business top ten, I think, uh, especially personally, I

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<v Speaker 3>love Memphis. I love Germantown, one of my favorite stops

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<v Speaker 3>on tour.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, are you for Memphis?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm excited for BMW. Castle Pines. I think

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<v Speaker 3>will be a fun venue. It'll be unique. I have

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<v Speaker 3>a story coming out on kind of Wyndham Clark dominating

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<v Speaker 3>junior golf there and kind of the phenom me was,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, that's another player we didn't get into.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably some people owe Wyndham Clark's my apologies after

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<v Speaker 3>his first round, admirable comeback in his last fifty four

1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:33.400
<v Speaker 3>holes at Paris and then Atlanta. I was up at

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<v Speaker 3>east Lake last week. I really like the redesign there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a totally different look for east Lake. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the corridors are the same, but the greens, the

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<v Speaker 3>bunkers are totally different. Really enjoyed meeting Andrew Green, talking

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<v Speaker 3>to him. What a humble, gracious guy. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>those two things, and then just three tournaments where you

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<v Speaker 3>have the best players in the world competing against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I think are things worth, you know, worth watching. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the big thing is, and I think we liked

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<v Speaker 3>it about Scotty crying, is we like to know that

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<v Speaker 3>the golf means something to these guys besides just tons

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<v Speaker 3>and tons of money, which obviously the money helps. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think the thing with the FedEx Cup is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's obviously lots of opinion on formats things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think it matters to the players. Scotty talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it really affected him when he lost that six

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<v Speaker 3>shot lead to Rory two years ago, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>think for Victor it was kind of the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 3>he'd done yet in his career. And like I think

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<v Speaker 3>for it's like your year end performance review, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think it matters to guys that like it just validates

1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the hard work, validates a good season. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>do think that matters to players, and so in that

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<v Speaker 3>I think the FedEx Cup has important there. It is

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<v Speaker 3>you want to end your year on a good note,

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<v Speaker 3>if you've had a great season, like Scotty, Like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're Scotty, you want to win that thing because you

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<v Speaker 3>want to cap that year off on a great note.

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<v Speaker 1>If you if you were the czar of the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>How many shot lead with Scotty deserve for his year.

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<v Speaker 3>Five more? Joseph ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's only one right answer, and it's zero.

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<v Speaker 2>But go on, go ahead, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just find it crazy that we can We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get to the end of this and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a real chance. I guess that's what's interesting. It's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually more excited to watch than End of Year because

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<v Speaker 1>I have this, you know, you know, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to see I want to see chaos at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>And if some person, you know, I if Wyndham Clark

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<v Speaker 1>wins the FedEx Cup and Scotti ends up like tenth

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<v Speaker 1>on the end of year standings, it's going to be like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what what are we talking about here? But that would

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<v Speaker 1>make it exciting, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, chaos always makes for good television.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Sean, big thanks for coming on and talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Olympics. We'll look forward to the next couple

1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and reading your writing, your dispatches from Memphis. Thanks so

1:30:04.479 --> 1:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Joseph, let's close with some recommendations. What do

1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you got for me?

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be one that some people love and

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<v Speaker 2>it may be a small percentage of the people who

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<v Speaker 2>try it, and some people are gonna absolutely hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this new game I've found on my phone that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody sent me called Contexto. I don't know if you've

1:30:33.240 --> 1:30:35.599
<v Speaker 2>heard of that. It's similar to a New York Times game,

1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.479
<v Speaker 2>one of those that there's like one puzzle a day,

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<v Speaker 2>free to play. But the way it works is you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to guess the word of the day, and with

1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>each word you input, it gives you a similarity score.

1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Like a natural language processing model. It gives you a

1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>similarity score to the word. So if it's stove and

1:30:53.960 --> 1:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you pick the word cold, you won't get a super

1:30:56.880 --> 1:30:59.560
<v Speaker 2>high score. But then you pick hot, you get a

1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>higher score, and you start working your way up to

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<v Speaker 2>the word. Very difficult, very frustrating, but I think for

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<v Speaker 2>the right person if you like these kinds of word games,

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<v Speaker 2>once you sort of crack it and you start playing

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<v Speaker 2>once a day, I'm all in and it's it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing every day that I will not miss. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>Contexto dot me is the u r L. I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it every day. I find it very rewarding

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<v Speaker 2>when you get the right word. So some people will

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<v Speaker 2>hate this, and if you want to give up right away,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. But for the right person, I think it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a smash hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's me. I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing context, so we won't be. We won't be. You

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<v Speaker 1>won't be hearing from me about my contextow troubles. This

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<v Speaker 1>is for travelers. I've got a little tip for travelers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the vast majority of people are flying coach

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<v Speaker 1>in an economy or whatever you want. Your airline calls

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<v Speaker 1>it uh. Something that I've done recently, I sat yea.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a status so I can book in like

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<v Speaker 1>the premium economy. But if you want to have the

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<v Speaker 1>most possible space in economy, the row for you is

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<v Speaker 1>the second exit row. So the second exit row in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a standard in your standard airplane is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the row that you have the best most amount

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<v Speaker 1>of space. If you want the most amount of space,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ile like just in terms of like pure space,

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle second exit rows the most amount and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason is those seats recline. So I'm more of a

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<v Speaker 1>window seat guy. But for my long flights, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to always prioritize being up near the front of the

1:32:45.400 --> 1:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>premium economy up near the front, like you get off

1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the plane faster. But when I'm doing these long trips,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, I'm checking a bag, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wait no matter what when i get off the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>What I've done is I have prioritized the space, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been booking into the second exit row my window seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Second exit row, it generally kind of fills up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later than the forward window row of window seats,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the premium economy, So I've been going that

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<v Speaker 1>second exit row. I notice, like I feel better getting

1:33:18.520 --> 1:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>off the plane because of all the like it's an

1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>insane amount of space. It is the most space you get, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>non first class on a plane. So second exit row,

1:33:29.360 --> 1:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>window seat for me. But if you like, like you

1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like the aisle, that's where you're gonna get the most space. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like I feel, I like, I know I've noticed that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on long flights, the amount of space, like I like,

1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>my legs really can like can can breathe. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my tip as a experience. I know this is bad

1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:55.719
<v Speaker 1>for me because these these might you have more demand,

1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:58.879
<v Speaker 1>but that is like where you get the most space

1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in terms of pure, pure like numbers, second exit row

1:34:03.080 --> 1:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>because then you get the real climb.

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<v Speaker 2>As somebody who recently downloaded TikTok Andy, all I can

1:34:08.840 --> 1:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>think about is like this lends itself very well to

1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>an Andy's travel tips. I think there's a future for

1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>you and giving out some of your travel tips. Again,

1:34:18.200 --> 1:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to influence demand too much. Now it's

1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:22.439
<v Speaker 2>going to be impossible to book one of those tickets,

1:34:22.439 --> 1:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>but I think you have a future in that that

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<v Speaker 2>it could be a side hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>As I listen to this, I'm just trying to pass

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<v Speaker 1>out some nuggets as I as I think about, like

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<v Speaker 1>how I've been able to like, you know, it's increased

1:34:35.160 --> 1:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>my travel enjoyment just a little bit. All Right, That

1:34:50.960 --> 1:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>does it for this episode of the Friday Golf Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thanks to PJ. Clark for the editing and producing

1:34:57.720 --> 1:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>of this episode. As a reminder, we are common in

1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:08.679
<v Speaker 1>club TF today this is Monday. A new design notebook

1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:11.519
<v Speaker 1>just went up and involves a Q and A with

1:35:11.560 --> 1:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a golf developer as well as Matt Rusche's. You probably

1:35:15.880 --> 1:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>recognize that name who formally produced this podcast. Now is

1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:23.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of more moved into like a full time role

1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of producing content for us, whether it's a lot of

1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>social stuff you'll see or written stuff. He went in

1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a Affordable Indiana golf trip, which is in that design notebook,

1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.439
<v Speaker 1>so if you want to check that out, it's a

1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>great piece. But we do that weekly. We have weekly

1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>course profiles. I don't want to make any promises. I'm

1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>working on my course profile for Oakland Hill South future

1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:52.639
<v Speaker 1>US Open hosts. I'm about fifty percent of the way

1:35:52.640 --> 1:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>through that, but check that out. It's one hundred and

1:35:56.520 --> 1:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars for the year, and it's a great way

1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to support what we do here at Friday Golf. We'll

1:36:03.040 --> 1:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>be back on Thursday with a new episode of The

1:36:07.640 --> 1:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>OAKU with Douk. I was in Michigan. That's one of

1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the reasons I was in Michigan last week recording with Tom.

1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>We've got two new episodes of that coming out in

1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the next two weeks. So that was fun. It was

1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>fun to hear all that's going on in his life.

1:36:21.560 --> 1:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>He's very busy. He had three golf courses to open

1:36:24.240 --> 1:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>this year, three golf courses that are under construction, and really,

1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you think about the time of his career.

1:36:32.960 --> 1:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a legacy building time of a golf

1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:39.559
<v Speaker 1>architects career when you get to open this many new

1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>golf courses, because new golf courses are what you know,

1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna remember. It's not going to be necessarily the

1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:48.519
<v Speaker 1>restoration of this. It's the new golf the golf courses

1:36:48.520 --> 1:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that have your your name on them. So cool time

1:36:52.560 --> 1:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of golf architects. You think about Core Crenshaw,

1:36:55.360 --> 1:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Gil Tom uh, you know, and so on and so forth.

1:36:59.360 --> 1:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>There there's so much work in the industry that a

1:37:02.320 --> 1:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys, you know, Rob Collins, Uh, you know,

1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>there there are a lot of people getting a lot

1:37:07.880 --> 1:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities to build new courses, and that's great for

1:37:11.080 --> 1:37:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the golf course architecture space and in the future of

1:37:14.320 --> 1:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>golf course architecture as a job. You know, I think

1:37:17.840 --> 1:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>we went through a time where there was not that

1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>many jobs and not that much work in golf architecture.

1:37:23.760 --> 1:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And right now we're in a boom and hopefully it

1:37:26.160 --> 1:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>sticks out, it holds on because it's it's great for

1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the you know, there's more young people in that in

1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that industry than ever before, and a lot of architects

1:37:35.439 --> 1:37:38.439
<v Speaker 1>are getting a great opportunity to show what they can

1:37:38.479 --> 1:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>do in their creativity. So exciting chat with Tom and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back on Thursday with that episode.