Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2: He's Peter Schrager, popular co host of NFL Networks Good
Speaker 2: Morning Football. Spent the past week in Indianapolis and joining
Speaker 2: us on the program after a week watching the Combine.
Speaker 2: Is it small hands or short arms? What's the most
Speaker 2: important thing to take away from the Combine here, Pete.
Speaker 3: We don't even know if it's accurate. This year, the
Speaker 3: big discrepancy was the Senior Bowl and the All Star
Speaker 3: Games had guys with one hand size. They showed up
Speaker 3: at the Combine and their hands grew a foot. So
Speaker 3: heard from a lot of scouts being like, I didn't
Speaker 3: plan on going to all these pro days, but I
Speaker 3: guess I have to because there's been major discrepancies in
Speaker 3: the measurements from just the college All Star Games to
Speaker 3: the Combine. The truth is, it's all about the interviews
Speaker 3: and it's all about the medicals.
Speaker 4: These guys got put through the ringers.
Speaker 3: And I interviewed Sean Payton yesterday on NFL Network at
Speaker 3: the Combine and he was like, we didn't even think
Speaker 3: bo Nicks threw well. We weren't even into Bownix at
Speaker 3: this point last year. So we're just getting started. Really,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a lot of investigations on these
Speaker 3: players moving on. That sounds negative, a lot of deep
Speaker 3: diving on these players over the next few weeks. But
Speaker 3: this was kind of the first introduction to a lot
Speaker 3: of these players, to a lot of the teams.
Speaker 2: But we would it felt like we were trying to
Speaker 2: make or members in the media or shows were trying
Speaker 2: to make a big deal that shud Or Sanders wasn't
Speaker 2: throwing at the Combine. And I reminded my audience the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks taken in the first round last year didn't throw
Speaker 2: at the comp Like, it's not necessarily a big deal.
Speaker 2: You throw at your pro day. Cam Ward the same thing.
Speaker 2: What about those who did throw at the combine? Did
Speaker 2: anybody stand out for good or bad reasons?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackson dart through, well, he went. He's probably gonna
Speaker 3: be the third quarterback taken last year. I was at
Speaker 3: the combine and Caleb Williams didn't throw, and he didn't
Speaker 3: do any of the workouts, but he was like the
Speaker 3: hype man for the group, and he was around and
Speaker 3: he was present, and everyone that I spoke with is like,
Speaker 3: do you see Caleb at the combine. He didn't throw,
Speaker 3: but gosh, I love that about him.
Speaker 4: He's up in down.
Speaker 3: I was there on Saturday on the field and cam
Speaker 3: Ward is not throwing or running, but cam Ward is
Speaker 3: talking all the different quarterbacks, hyping them up. And then
Speaker 3: when Xavier Verstreppo, his wide receiver, was about to do
Speaker 3: the wide receivers drills, cam Ward starts throwing in passes,
Speaker 3: so it's almost like he is warming up.
Speaker 4: It's Shador. Sanders was electric also on the sidelines.
Speaker 3: The truth of the matter is quinn Ewers through Well,
Speaker 3: I said, Jackson dart through Well.
Speaker 4: Tyler.
Speaker 3: I can't get his name right. It's out of Louisville
Speaker 3: and Texas Tech. It's Kyler. There's like it's pronounced wrong,
Speaker 3: scug scug scug. I don't know how it's pronounced totally,
Speaker 3: And maybe that's why I'm kind of behind the eight
Speaker 3: ball on it.
Speaker 4: But he was a guy who bounced from Texas Tech
Speaker 4: to Louisville.
Speaker 3: He threw really well and ran the forty, and that
Speaker 3: was really well appreciated that he actually ran the forty.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna go for it, but no one,
Speaker 3: no one at the quarterback position solidified their spot or
Speaker 3: jumped a huge amount based on their combine workout.
Speaker 2: I like Jackson Dart a lot. I watch probably two
Speaker 2: full games at Old Miss. You got a coach who
Speaker 2: knows how to develop quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: I just don't know.
Speaker 2: He might be the third quarterback. As you said, I
Speaker 2: don't know what that third means. It feels like the
Speaker 2: difference between the second quarterback and the third quarterback could
Speaker 2: be beginning of the first round and in the beginning
Speaker 2: of the second round.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think that's the game.
Speaker 3: I think cam Ward is solidified right now as the
Speaker 3: number one quarterback in this draft. And I have to
Speaker 3: make sure that everyone hears this and that Dion hears this.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's the best quarterback in this draft.
Speaker 3: He will be the first quarterback selected in this draft.
Speaker 3: And that's how it's looking going into Pro Days and
Speaker 3: free agency and the rest. Shador is likely to Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart is likely three. And then we don't know where
Speaker 3: that three is. Is that as early as seven to
Speaker 3: the Jets or is that thirty four to the Giants.
Speaker 6: We don't know.
Speaker 3: As we do know in the history of the draft,
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and their values go up up and up until
Speaker 3: the fact that we have six taken in the first
Speaker 3: twelve like we did last year. When heading into the
Speaker 3: to the pro dace and the freegency stuff, bo Nix
Speaker 3: was looked at as an early second round pick and
Speaker 3: Michael Pennix wasn't considered a top ten selection.
Speaker 4: So their their values.
Speaker 3: Get higher as the free agency and roster development forms.
Speaker 3: And you see that teams have massive holes at quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's the most important position in sports. If someone doesn't
Speaker 3: check that box, Jackson dark Stock can go up skyrocketing
Speaker 3: because the team gets desperate and says, well, we need
Speaker 3: a quarterback and he's.
Speaker 2: A guy, and we do focus in on the quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and rightfully so. But sometimes you get these gms who
Speaker 2: show up at the combine and they're talking about other
Speaker 2: things than what we're watching on the screen. This is
Speaker 2: where deals get done. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: Debo getting traded was something that you know got done
Speaker 2: at the combine. I know it was announced at the combine.
Speaker 2: It feels like Aaron Rodgers to the Giants is a
Speaker 2: possibility here, So give us sort of factor fiction here
Speaker 2: of some these other ancillary things that are dangling.
Speaker 4: I can't stress this enough.
Speaker 3: The Combine droves go on from Thursday to Sunday, and
Speaker 3: it's on NFL Network and it's Rich Eyes and Daniel
Speaker 3: Jeremiah and.
Speaker 4: That is the sizzle, that is the stake.
Speaker 3: But what's really going on, and really the importance of
Speaker 3: the Combine is that you've got representatives from all thirty
Speaker 3: two teams. Even if the head coach didn't show up
Speaker 3: this year, there are a bunch of forty nine ers
Speaker 3: people there and there's conversations happening all week because everyone's
Speaker 3: in the same place at the same time. This is
Speaker 3: where deals are done. And guess what, every NFL agent
Speaker 3: is there as well. So I talked to a GM
Speaker 3: and I said, well, what do you think of this work?
Speaker 3: I couldn't really watch the workouse we'll watch the tape.
Speaker 3: I had meetings with agents from seven am to eleven PM,
Speaker 3: and that's every agent from the biggest agent you could
Speaker 3: talk to Joel Siegel and Drew Rosenhaus, or from the
Speaker 3: smallest agent who has one player who might be an
Speaker 3: undrafted guy. They take the meetings there so their dance
Speaker 3: card is full. And that's where a lot of these
Speaker 3: deals are at least discussed and get the value, and
Speaker 3: you need can't make a deal.
Speaker 4: But what you could.
Speaker 3: Say is, hey, here's what we're hearing. This is what
Speaker 3: our player is likely going to be getting. If you're interested,
Speaker 3: let us know when the legal tampering deal starts happening.
Speaker 3: Now you add in the fact that there's media members
Speaker 3: and it's when we get to get our rumors and
Speaker 3: our stuff. But like I'll say it openly because I
Speaker 3: was publicly with them, But like I had breakfast with
Speaker 3: Brandon Bean, the GM of the Bills, and Joe Shane,
Speaker 3: the GM of the Giants, And we didn't meet in
Speaker 3: a suite in a Marriotte somewhere and quietly with like
Speaker 3: the phones plugged out. We met a breakfast spot called
Speaker 3: patachew and there was one hundred other people in the
Speaker 3: media there, and there was one hundred different gms there
Speaker 3: and everyone sees us all talking, and Eric Dacosta's having
Speaker 3: breakfast over there, and Howie Roseman's having breakfast over there.
Speaker 4: And there this is how it is.
Speaker 3: It's everyone's talking, we're all getting our information, but we're
Speaker 3: also trading information and just seeing people we don't see
Speaker 3: during the year.
Speaker 2: What do you think happens leading up to the draft,
Speaker 2: any moves that are made.
Speaker 3: I think free agency this year is really interesting because
Speaker 3: you've got a bunch of these quarterbacks and a little
Speaker 3: bit of a carousel. But I I don't know necessarily
Speaker 3: the market is there for his Like Sam Donald, if
Speaker 3: you had told me week seventeen that Sam Donald was
Speaker 3: gonna hit free agency, I'd say there would be a
Speaker 3: line out the door.
Speaker 4: I don't know Sam Donald's market right now. In fact,
Speaker 4: it went from.
Speaker 3: Being you know, no doubt Minnesota has to bring him
Speaker 3: back those eight days where they had the season finale
Speaker 3: on Sunday night against the Lions and then lost on
Speaker 3: the Monday night eight days later to the Rams, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know. That could have cost Sam Donald millions
Speaker 3: and millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: And I don't have a team for him right now.
Speaker 3: Where it's gonna be, let's spill over ourselves and give
Speaker 3: Sam Donald one hundred million dollar contract once Stafford was
Speaker 3: taken care of. I think Donald's the next piece. I
Speaker 3: think Rogers is an interesting piece. I think Justin Field's
Speaker 3: is going to have a market young quarterback did Will
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. I think Fields might have multiple teams vying
Speaker 3: for him to be their number one, and then you
Speaker 3: have this next tier of like what do we do
Speaker 3: with Russell Wilson, where's Kirk Cousins going? And then it's
Speaker 3: guys like Jared Stidham and Taylor Heineke, like they can
Speaker 3: play in this league.
Speaker 4: That's what's next.
Speaker 3: Coming out of the combine because we have a lot
Speaker 3: of teams that are going to be looking at two
Speaker 3: quarterbacks cam Ward and Shador Sanders up there in the
Speaker 3: tops of but like, there's only so many teams that
Speaker 3: can get those guys, and you've got these other veterans
Speaker 3: that might be able to fill that hole right now
Speaker 3: and might give that those coaches and gms a better
Speaker 3: chance to win than taking a rookie in the top five.
Speaker 2: Talking to Peter Schreger, co host NFL Networks Good Morning
Speaker 2: Football NFL on Fox Insider as well, if Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: doesn't go back to the Rams, the Rams would do
Speaker 2: what I think.
Speaker 3: The Rogers talk was real. I think Rogers was really
Speaker 3: a there's some connections there. A you've got him living
Speaker 3: in Malibu. B. He and McVeigh have met each other
Speaker 3: before at events, and they have us in similar kinship
Speaker 3: for each other as far as the work that they've done.
Speaker 3: I think Rogers was a very legitimate option. The other
Speaker 3: one was Jimmy Garoppolo, who, whether or not you want
Speaker 3: to believe it or not, Sean McVay, you'll have him
Speaker 3: on the show, you can ask him, has a.
Speaker 4: Great fondness for Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 3: Garoppolo showed a lot this year in a meaningless Week
Speaker 3: eighteen game against the Seahawks. Garoppolo was dialed in with
Speaker 3: backups and gave Seattle everything they can handle and that
Speaker 3: went a long way.
Speaker 4: So they were they held the leverage in that situation.
Speaker 3: They would love to have Stafford back, but at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, they felt comfortable that if they
Speaker 3: had to move on and the numbers didn't make sense
Speaker 3: and Stafford really wanted out to go explore what he
Speaker 3: was worth on the open market, they were going to
Speaker 3: be okay. And in the end of the day, cooler
Speaker 3: heads prevailed. And I wouldn't be so bold to speak
Speaker 3: on mcveigh's behalf, especially when he's a guest on your
Speaker 3: show coming up later today.
Speaker 2: If I gave the Bears a do over, would they
Speaker 2: still have taken Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yes, they were so convicted last year they
Speaker 3: didn't meet with any other quarterbacks like they were in
Speaker 3: on this thing. And I think they think that they
Speaker 3: failed Caleb in year one with a lot of different ways,
Speaker 3: and they have done everything in their power to surround
Speaker 3: him with the right coaching staff and organizational moves that
Speaker 3: he should have great success in year two.
Speaker 5: What's Brock Purty gonna.
Speaker 4: Get good money? Good money?
Speaker 5: It is great money, I think good money.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna break the market. His agent,
Speaker 3: Kyle Strong And was around during Indie making the rounds.
Speaker 3: And this is not like it's a machine where it's
Speaker 3: CIA or it's WM or it's Rosen how this is
Speaker 3: an agent that like Brock Party is his guy, and
Speaker 3: he had him when he's coming out of Iowa State,
Speaker 3: and Rock Perty has been loyal to him. I think
Speaker 3: they are rational thinkers though in this thing, they're gonna
Speaker 3: get pretty top starting quarterback money. But I don't know
Speaker 3: if Perty's gonna blow out the market in a way
Speaker 3: where we're talking like oh, that's the new standard, so
Speaker 3: it's got to be this sweet spot.
Speaker 4: But you know, San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Went all in last year, didn't win, and Ebo Samuel's gone.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of different moves for San
Speaker 3: Francisco cutting salaries. They know they've got to pay Rock
Speaker 3: Party and that's a priority for them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about window of opportunity all the time.
Speaker 2: You know that the Niners window of opportunity. It feels
Speaker 2: like the window of opportunity is closed when you look
Speaker 2: at the Eagles, you look at the Lions. The Niners
Speaker 2: were that team. Now all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 2: Trent Williams once he got another year, and McCaffrey even
Speaker 2: play anymore, are you probably going to be gone? Your
Speaker 2: best receiver might be a guy who got shot last year.
Speaker 2: So you know the window of I always say win now,
Speaker 2: like whatever it takes, win now. If I'm Detroit, all
Speaker 2: in on Miles Garrett, if I'm Washington, all in on
Speaker 2: Miles like, win now, none of this. Hey, we're set
Speaker 2: up for the future. We see what happens with that
Speaker 2: win win now.
Speaker 3: Well, when now covers up a lot of potential, Hey
Speaker 3: wait a second, what was that? Like?
Speaker 4: People forget the Niners.
Speaker 3: In Lynch and Shanahan's first draft took Solomon Thomas number
Speaker 3: you know three over all over Mahomes and you know
Speaker 3: whoever else, and then they took Ruben Foster and to like,
Speaker 3: we don't talk about Wow, they really missed on that draft.
Speaker 3: And the third overall pick that took Solomon Thomas, they
Speaker 3: traded three first round picks for Trey Lance, Like, we
Speaker 3: don't talk about that. We talk about the wins and
Speaker 3: the success and the ability to find Brock Purty and
Speaker 3: to find George Kittle and to get all these moves
Speaker 3: to get Christian McCaffrey there. I have no doubt they
Speaker 3: don't regret going all in and paying Iyuk his money
Speaker 3: last year and paying debo because they were three points
Speaker 3: away from a super Bowl and if they don't receive
Speaker 3: the kickoff, who knows what happens in that super Bowl
Speaker 3: where that's an organization and Jed York since he took
Speaker 3: over the organization has knocked on the door so many
Speaker 3: times for that Lombardi that they were going all in
Speaker 3: last year. It just fell apart in historic fashion and
Speaker 3: they didn't even make the playoffs. They're gonna feel it
Speaker 3: this year, they will, but Brock Perty it's not on him.
Speaker 3: I think he actually played really well and they respect
Speaker 3: the fact that he stood in the pocket, he took
Speaker 3: the hits, and he had a good season last year
Speaker 3: despite a lot of shortcomings for that team.
Speaker 2: The tush push came back to life. As far as
Speaker 2: let's outlaw it. It felt like that was the topic
Speaker 2: of conversation or one of the big topics there. It's
Speaker 2: cold off a little bit, it feels like, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's cold off enough that we go, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's table this until next year. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: like what, what's your general consensus of where are we
Speaker 2: headed with any changes to this play.
Speaker 3: I think behind closed doors people don't like it, and
Speaker 3: away from the microphone, people think it's it's not a
Speaker 3: pretty play.
Speaker 4: It's you know that you saw the health.
Speaker 3: And safety data came out that there's been zero engines
Speaker 3: from the tushbush. So a lot of that is a
Speaker 3: little window dressing. They're like, oh, it's not a safe play.
Speaker 3: I just think people don't. It's like kind of gross
Speaker 3: to watch it. It's not fun. It's like, all right,
Speaker 3: here we go. It's a formality almost like the extra
Speaker 3: point that said there's this masculinity and there's this machesemo
Speaker 3: amongst the NFL where if you're out there and Marahee
Speaker 3: Morris was out there, He's like, I don't like it, and.
Speaker 4: People were like, oh, well, if you don't like it,
Speaker 4: then you got to stop it.
Speaker 3: There's this there's this like oh testosterone Philip thing where
Speaker 3: you know, the Eagles do it and you're not going
Speaker 3: to take it. I can't imagine they remove it. The
Speaker 3: injury data is not there. It is a play of
Speaker 3: skill in a lot of ways. And the fact that
Speaker 3: Jason Kelsey retired, Cam Jurgens filled in and they were
Speaker 3: able to execute it at the way they did it
Speaker 3: does feel like you're penalizing the Eagles if you're getting
Speaker 3: rid of it.
Speaker 4: But from an.
Speaker 3: Aesthetics standpoint, call me an artist, if you will, or
Speaker 3: a poet or someone.
Speaker 4: Who's into, you know, the beauty of the game.
Speaker 3: I don't like watching it. I don't think a lot
Speaker 3: of people like watching it. But it is a certain
Speaker 3: play and it hasn't been stopped, and one team excels
Speaker 3: at it. You can't get rid of it based on that.
Speaker 3: You got to get rid of it based on Hey,
Speaker 3: there's players getting hurt at a higher rate, and that's
Speaker 3: just not.
Speaker 4: The case right now.
Speaker 2: I still think that they would be extremely successful with
Speaker 2: just a quarterback. Sneak, you took away the lineman behind
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. Given his ability to do he's unique. This
Speaker 2: is really he does something. You know, when you're gonna
Speaker 2: squat five hundred or six hundred pounds whatever, like, he
Speaker 2: has an advantage that I think that they would still
Speaker 2: be very successful. You know, JJ Watt joined us last
Speaker 2: week and he said, look, the play's unstoppable. So here,
Speaker 2: three time Defensive Player of the Year said you can't
Speaker 2: stop it.
Speaker 5: So I mean we had fun.
Speaker 3: We had fun with Frankie Luvu from the Commanders jumping
Speaker 3: over three times hocularly being.
Speaker 5: Like, we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not that's look, that's not what John
Speaker 3: Facenda wanted to be.
Speaker 4: You know, do an NFL films highlights over. I promise
Speaker 4: you that.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. I know you had a
Speaker 2: busy week. Thanks for making some time.
Speaker 4: You're the best.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: They pushed our show from Good Morning Football back a
Speaker 3: little bit and I haven't been able to come on
Speaker 3: all season.
Speaker 4: It's a thrill for me to be able to do
Speaker 4: it today.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to be at Lambeau for the Draft. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we would love to be able to.
Speaker 8: See you up there.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you'll be important. We're just a
Speaker 5: little show.
Speaker 4: When I wear a suit and tie, I'm a different
Speaker 4: guy here casually. I love being with you.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you have a suit and tie on,
Speaker 2: do not approach you. Okay, fair enough, that's Peter Shregg.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Kevin Fraser, Michelle Turner, the popular co host of Entertainment Tonight,
Speaker 2: and it's a tradition unlike any other when they join
Speaker 2: us on very little sleep. Always great to see you,
Speaker 2: especially you, Michelle.
Speaker 1: I got it.
Speaker 2: I got a great We've been trying to do comps
Speaker 2: with the Academy Award winners and also sports guys.
Speaker 5: So here's one for you. Here's one for you, Okay.
Speaker 2: McCauley caukin and Kieren Caukin, Bobby Hurley, Danny Hurley. So
Speaker 2: so McCauley caukin a lot of success, Young Bobby Hurley
Speaker 2: a lot of success when he was younger, and then
Speaker 2: both brothers, Kieran and Danny Hurley come out of the
Speaker 2: shadows and now they're having their moment.
Speaker 5: I love that, Thank you.
Speaker 7: I would say I would go even further back, Dan,
Speaker 7: and I would go to Van Arsdale's Brothers.
Speaker 8: Boy, you know, I'll take you all the way back to.
Speaker 7: Van Oresdale's and that's that's where I would I would
Speaker 7: eat in that one out.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 9: And I was about to say, like the Curry family
Speaker 9: are like the scars Guards.
Speaker 8: Oh really yeah.
Speaker 9: Okay that dell, Yeah, I think, I mean, you know,
Speaker 9: there's three of them, there's three of the Curry's.
Speaker 8: Like, okay, okay, I can give you that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can give me that.
Speaker 8: I can give you that one. That's that was quality.
Speaker 5: Okay, what about me?
Speaker 6: Moore?
Speaker 5: Matt Ryan.
Speaker 8: So close?
Speaker 7: That was you know what that I would say that
Speaker 7: or you could say Russell Wilson or anybody from Seattle
Speaker 7: who came so close, but they won.
Speaker 5: They did win one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so that's why Matt Ryan is a.
Speaker 10: Great, a very good one.
Speaker 9: That's or like Charles Barkley even maybe like.
Speaker 8: You know, did you ever really think Charles is gonna
Speaker 8: win that final.
Speaker 10: If I didn't do that to my Chuck body thought.
Speaker 8: That they were gonna win that finals.
Speaker 9: I looked at it more like Demi will go down
Speaker 9: in the Hall of Fame. She's had an incredible career,
Speaker 9: a long career. We know her, we talk about her.
Speaker 9: We're going to be celebrating her for a long.
Speaker 8: Time like we do Chuck, Dan Marino.
Speaker 10: There you go, oh there you okay?
Speaker 2: What about Adrian Brody? What twenty plus years in between wins?
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 2: Is there a sports comp for somebody who won, uh
Speaker 2: and then came back and won again twenty Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholas at forty six winning the Masters.
Speaker 9: That's got to be the closest day.
Speaker 10: I'm trying.
Speaker 7: But Jack had so much Again, Adrian has done those
Speaker 7: two things.
Speaker 8: That has been it. I mean that role is his role.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and when he plays it and he kisses Halle Berry,
Speaker 7: he wins a host.
Speaker 10: That is very true.
Speaker 2: That is very true, Kevin, What would you rather do
Speaker 2: kiss Halle Barrier win an Academy award?
Speaker 8: Come on, I mean that's not.
Speaker 7: You can pick up you can pick up an Academy
Speaker 7: award down on Hollywood Boulevard, right nobody.
Speaker 9: I was thinking about this though, Dann, when I knew
Speaker 9: we were coming on to talk to you, And because
Speaker 9: there's such this conversation about who's going to be the
Speaker 9: new face of the NBA and who would like to
Speaker 9: be and I was thinking, who will be the new
Speaker 9: face of Hollywood?
Speaker 10: It has to be Timothy Shallowy?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 9: So is he like the Anthony Edward of Hollywood right now?
Speaker 2: Like the Shay or like Shay Well, but you know
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards doesn't want to be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 2: Does Timothy Chala may want to be the face of Hollywood?
Speaker 9: Do you believe that Anthony Edwards really doesn't want to
Speaker 9: be the face of the NBA.
Speaker 8: Timothy Shallowy is SGA?
Speaker 5: You think he said Shay Gilchris Alexander.
Speaker 10: Maybe in the way they dress.
Speaker 7: They dress alike, they have that flamboyce. They both say
Speaker 7: I want to be the best. I'm going to be
Speaker 7: the boy.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, but I look at it like Anthony Edwards
Speaker 9: is that guy too. He'll come and tell you in
Speaker 9: your face, I'm gonna bust your behind.
Speaker 10: He's gonna tell you.
Speaker 9: He told President Obama, I'm the truth. Timothy shallow May
Speaker 9: got on that stage at.
Speaker 8: The second one.
Speaker 9: I'm the truth. I'm chasing greatness. This is what I'm
Speaker 9: gonna do. And so that kind of is why I
Speaker 9: make the correlation there. And I don't believe for a
Speaker 9: second that Anthony Edwards does not want to be the
Speaker 9: face of the NBA.
Speaker 10: Don't believe him for a second.
Speaker 2: Talking to Kevin Frasier and Michelle Turner from Entertainment tonight,
Speaker 2: I don't buy into it. But sometimes you hear this,
Speaker 2: somebody's too young to win, right? Was Timothy Challoway too
Speaker 2: young to win?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: No, that wasn't the Adrian Rody won for the Pianist
Speaker 9: when he was twenty nine, So no, okay. Timothy shallow
Speaker 9: May was also the lead think about this Dan the
Speaker 9: lead of two of the top ten movies of the year,
Speaker 9: two of the Best Picture nominees. He was the lead
Speaker 9: of Doom two, the lead of a complete unknown. The
Speaker 9: kid is he's got some business with it.
Speaker 7: I think the problem is that Bob Dylan was invited
Speaker 7: to perform and also to appear or at least present,
Speaker 7: and Bob Dylan didn't want to say a word about
Speaker 7: this movie. And I think it would have got helped
Speaker 7: get him over the hump. I thought it was the
Speaker 7: best performance of the year what Timothy shallow May did,
Speaker 7: and he brought a new audience to Bob Dylan's music.
Speaker 8: I wish Bob Dylan.
Speaker 7: Would have supported him a little bit, and I think
Speaker 7: it could have helped maybe push him over the hump.
Speaker 8: A little bit.
Speaker 2: I think we're all better that Bob Dylan didn't perform Kevin.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: Somebody.
Speaker 2: Somebody had to say it, and I'm gonna say it said.
Speaker 2: Although it would have made Timothy sound even better if
Speaker 2: they would have, right, But I thought he was I
Speaker 2: thought he was great. Here's the problem I had with
Speaker 2: the movie is Dylan has spent an entire career wearing
Speaker 2: a mask.
Speaker 5: We don't really know who he is. The movie didn't
Speaker 5: tell you who he was.
Speaker 2: It just chronicled a time that was really important in
Speaker 2: our history, sir music.
Speaker 10: So you that's why it was called a complete unknown.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you didn't know him and you still don't
Speaker 2: know who he is. But it feels like we know
Speaker 2: him because we've grown up with his music. But you know,
Speaker 2: I saw Adrian Brody portray somebody, and I thought I
Speaker 2: knew more about the person he was portraying than I
Speaker 2: did Timothy Challow May with Bob Dylan.
Speaker 8: But have you seen Adrian Brody play similar role before? Yes,
Speaker 8: yes you have, and he is really really good at that.
Speaker 7: But I thought it was It was a great performance
Speaker 7: in a great movie, but it was something of a
Speaker 7: little bit.
Speaker 8: Of a redo.
Speaker 2: I mentioned that I went to Saving Private Ryan after
Speaker 2: party with my wife because I I got to pick.
Speaker 5: Between that or Shakespeare in Love.
Speaker 2: And I told my wife, I said, hun, Saving Private
Speaker 2: Ryan is going to be incredible. It'll be They're gonna
Speaker 2: win all the awards.
Speaker 7: It's like last night, would you have taken the invitation
Speaker 7: to the Honora Party or the Wicked Party?
Speaker 9: Well, I still would take the invitation to the Wicked Party.
Speaker 8: Or the Conclave Party or.
Speaker 9: The Yeah, I still would take the invitation to the
Speaker 9: Conclave party.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really, the Conclave Party.
Speaker 9: I love me some Stanley Tucci, I love me some
Speaker 9: rape Fines.
Speaker 10: I love me some John Litgoe.
Speaker 9: John Lithgow was the breakout of the Oscars last night.
Speaker 8: And look you love that movie too?
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 7: I love that And we must say look Let's be honest.
Speaker 7: We are two of the people who did not really
Speaker 7: think Anora would win.
Speaker 10: No, and and Dan.
Speaker 9: You know, I will tell you one of my producers
Speaker 9: had been saying to me for weeks, Girl opened your eyes.
Speaker 9: People loving this movie. They're they're voting for this movie.
Speaker 9: There's this big swell for this movie. And I kept saying, Okay,
Speaker 9: I liked it. I didn't love it. Give me pretty
Speaker 9: Woman over Anora any day of the week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if strip teas meant animal house, you'd have a
Speaker 7: Nora not animal you know, I mean really literally, I
Speaker 7: was That's what surprised me.
Speaker 9: Well, Kevin and I both said, it's the Players Club.
Speaker 7: That's like La rag McCoy, better go get her, better
Speaker 7: go get her, Oscar her and ice Cube deserves some credit.
Speaker 2: Now, I thought it was. I loved it, but the
Speaker 2: pace of it made me exhausted. I mean it was
Speaker 2: just a frenetic pace. But you couldn't take your eyes
Speaker 2: off of her of like that. That's one of the
Speaker 2: what of what heard of her?
Speaker 8: Kevin.
Speaker 9: She was in every frame of that movie, every single
Speaker 9: frame of that movie. That was a true lead actress
Speaker 9: type of movie. And that actually thinking about it, may
Speaker 9: have hurt to me more a little bit because Demi
Speaker 9: was in fifty percent of that movie.
Speaker 8: That's a great point.
Speaker 7: But I still thought this was her night and that
Speaker 7: Hollywood was going to love her too, and it was
Speaker 7: going to be her moment. And if you look at
Speaker 7: the video of just as they're about to announce the winner,
Speaker 7: you see her heart beat and you're like, ye oh God,
Speaker 7: oh God.
Speaker 2: And I know, Kevin, you've never had that feeling when
Speaker 2: you're waiting to get your name called old for an award.
Speaker 2: I have, And oh my god, it's just and you
Speaker 2: gotta be nice. And she's on camera and she's problem.
Speaker 2: She's been told by everybody you're gonna win, You're gonna
Speaker 2: win night. Yeah, you're dressed up.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's ready to go. It was heartbreaking for there. No,
Speaker 5: I felt so bad for her.
Speaker 10: I did too, because I did too. And think about that.
Speaker 9: She's sixty two, she's been an over sixty films. She's
Speaker 9: had almost a fifty year career in this business. Mikey
Speaker 9: Madison's twenty five. She's been in less than ten movies. Yes,
Speaker 9: and she's just getting started. And I'm not one that
Speaker 9: says give those Lifetime Achievement.
Speaker 10: Oscars or Career Oscars.
Speaker 9: But I do think that this was material that Demi
Speaker 9: got her hands on that she may not get her
Speaker 9: hands on material like this again.
Speaker 10: Yes, and this was the moment for her.
Speaker 7: Two people deserved Oscars last night to Me Moore and
Speaker 7: Diane Warre.
Speaker 11: Oh, poor Diane war Diane Warren is sixteen in she's
Speaker 11: got to write a song about losing the oscar, Like,
Speaker 11: let's just let's just come out and spoof it and
Speaker 11: write a song about why do I keep losing this.
Speaker 7: On Saturday Night Live this week on Saturday Night Live,
Speaker 7: singing that's all right.
Speaker 5: I'll leave you with this.
Speaker 2: Who had a great night without winning an Academy Award?
Speaker 2: Who would stand O'Brien Okay, okay, halle Berry.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well she has a great night where.
Speaker 8: She goes.
Speaker 5: Comes back next year.
Speaker 10: Yes, I hope.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 10: I thought he was great, I really did. I thought
Speaker 10: he was effortless. I thought he was great.
Speaker 9: The only bit that I don't think worked.
Speaker 10: I thought they should have just brought.
Speaker 9: The first responders and firefighters out and gave them applause.
Speaker 10: I did.
Speaker 9: I don't think the bit landed when they were giving
Speaker 9: the jokes.
Speaker 10: I don't think it landed.
Speaker 8: I think Conan is back.
Speaker 7: If Dan you don't want the gig, if you turn
Speaker 7: it down again.
Speaker 10: I'm voting for Dan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I turned it down again.
Speaker 2: I'm the Diane Warren of turning down the Academy fourteen.
Speaker 8: Adam Sandler's there and you're not. What's happening in the world?
Speaker 7: Get a came next to Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Speaker 7: let's get an ET exclusive right now?
Speaker 8: Are you in and what part you have?
Speaker 2: I'm in Happy Gilmore too, and I play a sportscaster.
Speaker 2: It's a stretch, but I I'm kind of the Adrian
Speaker 2: Brody of Happy Gilmore Too.
Speaker 9: I love that twenty years apart and it's the it's
Speaker 9: what makes the movie well.
Speaker 10: I love that. Adam Sandler also had on the Steph
Speaker 10: Curries last night.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 10: He had those stats on last night.
Speaker 5: Thank you guys again, always great to see you.
Speaker 8: It's a tradition.
Speaker 5: Thank thank you.
Speaker 9: I'm just glad to be invited to the party using
Speaker 9: the Dan Patrick invitation over.
Speaker 2: Wicked nor All the Michelle you are the party. You
Speaker 2: are the party. That's Michelle Turner, Kevin Fraser, Inner, Taman
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Speaker 2: We wait for Sean McVay, the Rams head coach, Paulie
Speaker 2: your best and worst of the weekend. We forgot about you.
Speaker 8: I will go best of the weekend.
Speaker 14: Not just that Saint John's basketball is good again, but
Speaker 14: Rick Patino brought out the white suit at the end
Speaker 14: of the day, and that means they're back. You bring
Speaker 14: out the white suit. The game should have been called
Speaker 14: when he walked out with the white suit. There's really
Speaker 14: no chance I'm beating him with his white suit. Worst
Speaker 14: of the weekend. Rob Manfred, major League Baseball Commissioner, to
Speaker 14: even consider Pete Rose for reinstatement.
Speaker 8: Here's why it's fae. It's fake. It's uh.
Speaker 14: You could have reinstated him many times over the years.
Speaker 14: There's nothing to reinstate he can't work in baseball again,
Speaker 14: and there's nothing has changed with what he did or
Speaker 14: didn't do. It's a lifetime ban. Do it now is
Speaker 14: just fake platitudes or fake nice guy stick with what
Speaker 14: you did.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't you accrue more goodwill by doing it when
Speaker 2: Pete was still alive?
Speaker 14: Right, he didn't he If he does it now, it's
Speaker 14: because he knows Pete Rose cannot work in baseball again
Speaker 14: and he cannot give a speech at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Well, that might be right there, that he's not going
Speaker 2: to give a speech, because Pete giving a speech at
Speaker 2: cooper'stown would certainly be interesting what he would say. But
Speaker 2: from what we're told, this is just a coincidence of
Speaker 2: Baseball reconsidering putting Pete, reinstating Pete Rose, and Donald Trump
Speaker 2: saying that he's going to pardon Pete Rose. That it's
Speaker 2: separate things. You know, Pete went to prison for income
Speaker 2: tax evation, and I think that's what now. President Trump
Speaker 2: was also talking about Pete should be in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame as well.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Pauling and the other thing is another reason Manfred
Speaker 14: shouldn't do it. Then you have to change a rule.
Speaker 14: The rule hasn't change. It's a lifetime ban and doesn't
Speaker 14: go nothing changes because you pass way.
Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot more to the Pete
Speaker 2: Rose story, and there's probably let's just say, I'm aware
Speaker 2: that there's a lot more to the Pete Rose story.
Speaker 2: But does it see the light of day? And that's
Speaker 2: there's part of me that hopes that it doesn't from
Speaker 2: what I've been told, But I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 2: I know it's purposely vague, but I think there was
Speaker 2: a lot more that was going on with Pete Rose
Speaker 2: than what Baseball had to acknowledge. Let me put it
Speaker 2: that way, Seeton, what was the pole question for the
Speaker 2: final hour of the program?
Speaker 15: You know, we have a quick update on would you
Speaker 15: rather have very small hands or very short arms? That
Speaker 15: has come back to a lot closer. Before it was
Speaker 15: a runaway small hands. Now small hands is sitting at
Speaker 15: about sixty five percent. The short arms movement is making a.
Speaker 5: Big comeback, okay, a huge comeback okay.
Speaker 15: And then most promising team in the NFL right now,
Speaker 15: recency bias, but commanders run with that one out of
Speaker 15: the Texans, Chargers and Broncos or other.
Speaker 2: Options okay from DraftKings over under touchdown passes for Jade
Speaker 2: and Daniels for next season after they just acquired Deebo
Speaker 2: Samuel Paul, I'm gonna start with you, Jade and Daniels
Speaker 2: over under passing touchdowns next season.
Speaker 8: Twenty seven and a half, Todd twenty five.
Speaker 15: And a half, Seaton twenty nine and one a half,
Speaker 15: Marvin twenty four and a half, twenty two and a half.
Speaker 5: That's surprising. It's called motivation right there.
Speaker 2: Aren't they screaming for you to take the over there?
Speaker 2: He had twenty five last year.
Speaker 8: Mm.
Speaker 2: Things that make you go hmm. Twenty two and a
Speaker 2: half passing touchdowns for Jade and Daniels. And once again,
Speaker 2: as I said in the first hour, we forget sometimes
Speaker 2: how you get to your win total. They went to
Speaker 2: the NFC title game, did we check? Did they win
Speaker 2: six or seven games in the last possession, the last
Speaker 2: minute of a game?
Speaker 5: And while I love seeing that.
Speaker 2: Certainly from a rookie quarterback, I don't want to be
Speaker 2: in that situation because the odds are you're not going
Speaker 2: to be getting that number of wins, you know, on
Speaker 2: a semi regular basis. Sean McVay eight seasons Rams head
Speaker 2: coach and won a Super Bowl champ I got a
Speaker 2: story for you. This is fifty two years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my dad worked with your grandfather at the University of Dayton.
Speaker 2: Yeah so your dad was a grandfather was the coach.
Speaker 2: My dad worked in computer science at the University of Dayton.
Speaker 2: He says to your grandfather, give me all of the information,
Speaker 2: give me all the tendencies of the opponent you're going
Speaker 2: to play. I'm going to put it into a computer
Speaker 2: and I'm going to give you this. So my father
Speaker 2: was one of the first people to ever do this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was helping your grandfather. And I always wanted
Speaker 2: to tell you that story that he spoke very highly
Speaker 2: of your grandfather and the fact that he would listen
Speaker 2: to some guy in the computer science department at the
Speaker 2: University of Dayton giving all this information and my dad
Speaker 2: would say, here's tendencies of third and eight of you know,
Speaker 2: forty yard line or what they did in the you know,
Speaker 2: inside the twenty. Uh So I always wanted to tell
Speaker 2: you that, you know that.
Speaker 6: That's and that's incredible.
Speaker 16: My grandpa was the most humble, just good man. He's
Speaker 16: a reason why that's an amazing story. I can't believe
Speaker 16: I didn't know that and that we haven't connected before
Speaker 16: to hear that.
Speaker 6: But he he.
Speaker 16: Has afforded me opportunities Dan that I would never have
Speaker 16: gotten otherwise because of the way he treated people, the
Speaker 16: way that he always was, so respectful, so humble, so
Speaker 16: willing to listen.
Speaker 6: You know, I always talk about you know, he was.
Speaker 8: He was.
Speaker 16: I'm going to listen, learn then I can lead, And
Speaker 16: he was he was the best. He was so steady,
Speaker 16: and uh man, I know this. I would never be
Speaker 16: in the position that I'm in if it wasn't for
Speaker 16: the you know, McVeigh family name and legacy that he
Speaker 16: set and you want to work as hard as you
Speaker 16: can to make them proud.
Speaker 2: But where we are fifty two, three, four or five
Speaker 2: years later with analytics, can you be too analytical from
Speaker 2: a head coaching perspective?
Speaker 6: You know, I think so.
Speaker 16: I think it's a portion of it, and I do
Speaker 16: think that part of the really good coaches they use
Speaker 16: that as a portion to make decisions. And then there
Speaker 16: are certain things where the feel for the flow of
Speaker 16: the game, you know, the enemy has to say. There's
Speaker 16: some different things that you have to understand that are
Speaker 16: going on that maybe, Okay, this is different than what
Speaker 16: we had planned. There's twenty two moving parts, and so
Speaker 16: I think the best coaches use that as a part
Speaker 16: of their process in regards to the decision making. And
Speaker 16: then the best ones, I think they have a feel
Speaker 16: for the flow of the game where it's either confirming
Speaker 16: or oh, this is a little bit different than we anticipated.
Speaker 16: And how do we show the flexibility and the fluidity
Speaker 16: to be able to adjust an adapt in game.
Speaker 5: Why didn't you go to the combine?
Speaker 16: I didn't go to the combine because really we've got
Speaker 16: such trust in our group of scouts to be able
Speaker 16: to do the vetting and ultimately the tape is the
Speaker 16: biggest measure for what we evaluate, and so as coaches,
Speaker 16: our scouts are a little bit more ahead in terms
Speaker 16: of evaluating the game tape. They do such a great
Speaker 16: job with the vetting process using the numbers and similar
Speaker 16: to analytics Dan, you know, this is a portion of
Speaker 16: the evaluation. But ultimately, we're asking them to play football,
Speaker 16: and so we want to be able to know the
Speaker 16: human being and then we ultimately want to be able
Speaker 16: to see what kind of football player they are and
Speaker 16: what kind of vision do we have to be able
Speaker 16: to bring them in our environment and atmosphere to help
Speaker 16: them be at their best. And so there's a lot
Speaker 16: of trust that we have in our scouts, but I
Speaker 16: do think that there can be some misleading feels that
Speaker 16: you can get in some of these fifteen minute increments
Speaker 16: that aren't necessarily conducive forgetting to know the total human being.
Speaker 16: And that's where there's that trust. In terms of the
Speaker 16: vetting process that our scouts go through.
Speaker 2: How close did it get to you losing Matthew Stafford?
Speaker 5: Okay, you never.
Speaker 6: Did, and it never really got close.
Speaker 16: I think the important thing Dan was at the start
Speaker 16: of this process, you know, and I've been pretty open
Speaker 16: about some of the communication and the clarity that will deserved.
Speaker 16: And I had some growing up to do when we
Speaker 16: ended up making the move to acquire Matthew for Jared Goff,
Speaker 16: you know, to acquire Matthew and move Jared Goff, and
Speaker 16: so wanted to have clear, open and honest dialogue throughout
Speaker 16: that process, but we never The end goal in mine
Speaker 16: was always to be able to get him back, and
Speaker 16: I realized how much I wanted to get that solved
Speaker 16: when I've been sleeping so much better over the last
Speaker 16: couple of nights than I was the previous couple weeks.
Speaker 2: Take me back to the game against the Eagles. I
Speaker 2: truly thought you guys were winning that game. Just felt like,
Speaker 2: but give me the play that you're running through your
Speaker 2: mind of second guessing yourself at the end of that game.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's funny because it could have worked out.
Speaker 16: So the third and two sequence, when we're on the
Speaker 16: thirteen yard line with you know, a minute thirteen left,
Speaker 16: you know, we ended up having a little bit of
Speaker 16: a miscommunication up front.
Speaker 6: They were in a man coverage where they were doubling
Speaker 6: the coup up.
Speaker 16: We might add a chance if we ended up blocking
Speaker 16: it up right to be able to hit Higbey on
Speaker 16: a little whip route or maybe a second window off
Speaker 16: for Cup from a slant route from the backside. We
Speaker 16: ended up going negative and that put us in a
Speaker 16: fourth down situation. But not that just hated the call,
Speaker 16: But she said, Okay, if you had that over again,
Speaker 16: what would you do, knowing that we had two downs,
Speaker 16: probably could have run it, moved down some more clock.
Speaker 16: You're really a little bit less risk averse in terms
Speaker 16: of what ended up occurrent right there, so that sequence
Speaker 16: will stick. But ultimately I was proud of our group, Dan,
Speaker 16: I really was, and I thought Matthew played excellent, our
Speaker 16: guys competed. I thought we got better throughout the year,
Speaker 16: and obviously Philly is a tremendous team.
Speaker 6: They went on to convincingly do their thing in the
Speaker 6: next two games. But that one will sting.
Speaker 16: But I think it'll sting so much because of the growth.
Speaker 16: I don't know that I've ever been a part of
Speaker 16: a team that I felt like grew as much through
Speaker 16: so many challenging circumstances throughout the course of the year.
Speaker 6: And then obviously something.
Speaker 16: Way bigger than football with the fires that we dealt
Speaker 16: with the previous couple weeks.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Sean McVay, the Rams head coach. We
Speaker 2: had a bet around here, if you've already had your
Speaker 2: more pump in your morning lift, Todd, you said what
Speaker 2: that Sean had already done his morning lift?
Speaker 5: Yes or no?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I believe he has all right, Seaton, Yeah, definitely, yeah, Marvin, yes, yeah, PAULI.
Speaker 8: Eight thirty, no doubt he got a lift in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say, oh, you're damn right.
Speaker 6: I did.
Speaker 5: What are you benching now?
Speaker 16: Oh, I don't know what I'm benching. I just know
Speaker 16: that I get up. I actually go and work out
Speaker 16: with Andrew Whitworth. He's got a gym and so I'm
Speaker 16: not working. I'm not lifting the same as him, but
Speaker 16: he's keeping me in shape both mentally and physically, and
Speaker 16: so we do that at six in the morning, four
Speaker 16: days a week.
Speaker 5: But I uh, I'm trying to think who.
Speaker 2: I spoke to a Kevin O'Connell and I said, you know,
Speaker 2: if we do a combine for coaches, he had he
Speaker 2: puts you up there at the top. You know he
Speaker 2: thought you being competitive? Uh that you know going through
Speaker 2: all you know, three cone drill. Of course, I don't
Speaker 2: know what you ran there. What was your best forty
Speaker 2: yard dashtime?
Speaker 16: Well, I mean this is I think my dad had
Speaker 16: the handheld when I was in the f or fives.
Speaker 6: You know they say four four you know, let's put
Speaker 6: it this way.
Speaker 16: If I ran on an fat at Indy, I'd be
Speaker 16: lucky to be in the four to six is at
Speaker 16: my best.
Speaker 2: Okay, But yeah, Dan Campbell would dominate you in the
Speaker 2: bench press.
Speaker 6: I'm guessing I'm not messing with Dan there's no disputing that.
Speaker 5: Who takes credit for Pooka Nakua.
Speaker 16: I would say this, I think you know. I'll tell
Speaker 16: you who was a huge fan of his. Obviously Less
Speaker 16: was a huge fan. James Gladstone was a big fan
Speaker 16: of him before anybody.
Speaker 6: I know that. I can remember when.
Speaker 16: Mike Lafleur and I were really watching him and watching
Speaker 16: some of the different things that we like to evaluate
Speaker 16: in terms of aggressive hands.
Speaker 6: Really we were looking.
Speaker 16: For somebody that brought the element of toughness, competitiveness.
Speaker 2: Was explaining aggressive hands. What's aggressive hands?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 16: I think one of the best ways that you can
Speaker 16: evaluate aggressive hands where you're stepping to the football.
Speaker 6: When somebody's running in breaking routes.
Speaker 16: Do they stay flat? Are they friendly? Are they coming
Speaker 16: back on negative angles? Are they staying grounded through the catch?
Speaker 16: Are they to catch it away from their frame and
Speaker 16: then immediately get up the field. I think that's where
Speaker 16: you see some of these special players that have those
Speaker 16: aggressive hands to go attack the football, as opposed to
Speaker 16: when you'll see guys running in breaking routes, they might
Speaker 16: drift up the field because they're not as confident to
Speaker 16: step back to it. That was one of our favorite
Speaker 16: things about Puka, the competitive toughness. At BYU, he was
Speaker 16: catching a lot of bubbles and running jet sweeps and
Speaker 16: so a lot of the run after the catch was
Speaker 16: something that was enticing.
Speaker 6: And you know, if you said, did you think he'd
Speaker 6: be this good? We had a vision. We thought he
Speaker 6: would be good.
Speaker 16: But if he was gonna if we knew he was
Speaker 16: gonna be this good, we'd be silly to say we
Speaker 16: were gonna wait till the fifth round to take him.
Speaker 5: What does the Cooper Cup situation him on?
Speaker 16: Yeah, honestly, you know, he's been so instrumental to our
Speaker 16: group for the eight years. You know, his rookie year
Speaker 16: coincides with my first year. Dan, this guy means a
Speaker 16: whole lot to me. He's been instrumental in setting the culture,
Speaker 16: establishing a legacy that is already cemented as one.
Speaker 6: Of the all time rams.
Speaker 16: Think the hard part is is you have to be
Speaker 16: able to make decisions where you say, all, right, where
Speaker 16: are we going, what does it look like for the collective,
Speaker 16: and how are you putting this puzzled again year in?
Speaker 16: How are you putting this puzzle together year in and
Speaker 16: year out? And so we're in the midst of finding
Speaker 16: a trade partner for him, and if we're not able
Speaker 16: to do that, then we'll see what the next steps are.
Speaker 16: But that's kind of the process that we're in, working
Speaker 16: with himself and Ryan Torner to find a trade partner.
Speaker 5: How is fatherhood impacted your coaching?
Speaker 6: It's given me a purpose and a perspective.
Speaker 16: You know some of the things I used to get
Speaker 16: worked up about, Dan, It's just, you know things you're
Speaker 16: just reminded of who you want to be when you
Speaker 16: see that little boy smile at you. How you want
Speaker 16: to treat his mother, how you want to act in
Speaker 16: teract and respond the right way to show him what
Speaker 16: a real man is.
Speaker 6: I've said this before.
Speaker 16: I can remember when went through some challenging times in
Speaker 16: the twenty two season and we were five and twelve.
Speaker 6: Man, it really tested a lot of the things. That
Speaker 6: revealed a lot of insecurities that I had.
Speaker 16: And you're thinking about walking away from coaching, and the
Speaker 16: one thing that I think always residents with me is
Speaker 16: that I would have never been able to look at
Speaker 16: my son and say, hey, do as I say, not
Speaker 16: as I did.
Speaker 6: When adversity hits.
Speaker 16: And so you talk about making you better in every
Speaker 16: form of your life and man, just bringing a joy
Speaker 16: and a perspective. He doesn't care about those bad play
Speaker 16: calls that I make on Sundays.
Speaker 6: He's just happy to see dad dad.
Speaker 16: And I said that to Witt and Fits when I
Speaker 16: went on their podcast, and Fit said, yeah, not yet.
Speaker 6: Once he's old enough, he'll be criticizing you for those calls.
Speaker 5: Can you change a diaper in the time of a
Speaker 5: play clock?
Speaker 6: You know what, I think I can.
Speaker 16: I got to make sure I get the wipes ready
Speaker 16: if this is the number two, though, But if this
Speaker 16: is the number one, I can do that pretty efficiently.
Speaker 7: I might.
Speaker 16: I think I can do that out of a clock
Speaker 16: stoppage with twenty five cents.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, congrats on last season and
Speaker 2: nice to be able to connect with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely appreciate you having me on Dan.
Speaker 5: That's Sean McVay.