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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode. Up, I saw what

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Speaker 1: you did. My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson.

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Speaker 1: Now we're here to talk about the greatest movies of

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Speaker 1: all time in a very dense and esoteric way.

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Speaker 3: Every episode from now on will be seventeen hours long

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Speaker 3: per week, and we hope that you just set the

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Speaker 3: time aside while you are cleaning or driving to work

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Speaker 3: and tuck in because we're going to be using all

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Speaker 3: the dictionary words we know.

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Speaker 1: Calm has asked us to provide them with a Sleepy

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Speaker 1: Time track and it's just us doing an episode of

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Speaker 1: our podcast. Aha.

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Speaker 3: And they made us dress like the Sleepy Time Tea Bears,

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Speaker 3: which was weird.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you have no association.

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Speaker 3: With that, and yet here we are with a fucking

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Speaker 3: nightcap with a little dangling tassel.

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Speaker 2: And we did it. We did it. Folks.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's going on with you in life? Really?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I assure you that I'm not taking acid

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Speaker 3: based on my last statements.

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Speaker 2: It's on.

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Speaker 1: It's one another one of these micro dose shows that

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Speaker 1: we did.

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Speaker 2: If we did a fucking.

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Speaker 3: A micro dose show that was seventeen hours long, like

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Speaker 3: what a waste of time and drugs.

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Speaker 1: God, I hope I don't micronse and go for seventeen hours.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine doing a regular dose.

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Speaker 3: I've never even a regular dose, that's the thing. Like,

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Speaker 3: I've never regular dosed, so I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't do drugs, so I don't even know what

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Speaker 3: it would be seventeen hours of something I have.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I'm active. As if

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Speaker 1: I'm like Timothy Leary. I'm not. I'm not. I've only

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Speaker 1: done LSD maybe like twice in my life.

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Speaker 2: You're a problem the nineties. That's nothing.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, it's truly nothing done mushrooms like half dozen

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Speaker 1: But this whole concept of microdosing is like a new

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Speaker 1: there was no microdosing. It was either that you took

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Did you just like take one

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Speaker 1: Like what is this? It just makes it seem like

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Speaker 1: why we're saying microdosing. Is that like the pageant try

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Speaker 1: Is that where we're just we just want a little pageantry.

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Speaker 2: It's a little pageantry. I was.

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Speaker 3: I've been against and kind of angry about microdosing from

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Speaker 2: A mom and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, give me a black person who can

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Speaker 2: I might be on board, but right now, it's just

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Speaker 1: All they do is the marketing.

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Speaker 2: They just do.

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Speaker 1: They change the marketing and now it's a thing. But

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Speaker 3: Which again, I'm like, give me a brown person in

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Speaker 2: Like what.

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Speaker 3: If I was self employed and I was microdosing, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yo, speaking of marketing, I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about some please do Have you been in the

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Speaker 2: I haven't been in the movies in two and a

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Speaker 1: Well, then what the fuck should we even be talking

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Speaker 1: Like you can go on YouTube and see movie previews

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Speaker 1: But I because I've been going to the movies a

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Speaker 2: Pretty miss gotta say, I miss it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I don't know if it's because

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Speaker 1: I'm just fucking grouchy where I'm like every fucking movie trailer,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what is this? Okay, here's here's my

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm like, why why are the trailers

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 3: Is it like they're they're breaking the fourth wall and

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Speaker 2: Is it like Deadpool style? Like it just feels like.

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Speaker 1: That type of humor. It's that humor of like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw the movie for a Marvel a Marvel title

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Speaker 1: Elvis when I went to saw Elvis. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: won't even tell you if it was DC or Marvel.

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Speaker 1: It could have been either one of those.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I already know, just based on the timing. I

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Speaker 2: That's my Nerd, my nerd Superpower.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you know, but these people won't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they won't know trying to get sued. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to get sued. So it was it was one

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Speaker 1: it's just sort of like everyone's awkward making jokes, even

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Speaker 2: Midieven people didn't have time to be awkward.

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Speaker 3: They're like, we have time to fucking find food or

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Speaker 2: We're sleeping on rocks, Like what the fuck.

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Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing where like a fucking asteroid

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Speaker 1: As if it was an asteroid exploding in the fifth dimension,

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Speaker 2: To be rules this shit.

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Speaker 1: You can't be like a fucking up guy in a

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Speaker 2: I will say this.

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Speaker 3: I know that you are not a fan of like

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Speaker 3: the comic book to movie genre as a whole, okay,

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Speaker 3: and that you have not seen most of these these films.

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Speaker 3: But I will say that the it is intentional. It

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Speaker 2: In every fucking movie.

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Speaker 3: Every single movie is like, let's go get these guys

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Speaker 3: like buildings, exploding Hulks, like they make Hulk do spit

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Speaker 1: Though, is that entertaining for you? Far me from me

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Speaker 3: It is, but it was, I should say was it

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Speaker 3: But because it's like that, I think what happened is

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Speaker 3: And again, my fellow nerds do not come at me.

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Speaker 2: This is an opinion.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna come at me. They're not coming at

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Speaker 3: How nerds work, they don't go after the people who

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Speaker 2: They come after their.

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Speaker 3: Own oh ooh la lah, did not come after our own,

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Speaker 2: Like, you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: And I can argue this point with you, so I will.

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Speaker 3: I think what has happened is that Marvel movies, comic

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Speaker 3: book movies. Comic books were lame for so long, okay,

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Speaker 3: and then Iron Man the movie happened, and comic books

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Speaker 2: Suddenly they were cool.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that there's like this now that

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Speaker 3: but that's how it comes out. It's like, yeah, haha,

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Speaker 3: we know that, we're just like, we know that we're

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Speaker 2: Guys Like they kind of still.

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Speaker 3: Have to bring in the smart people who like the

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Speaker 3: comic books and who like who are not there just

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Speaker 3: what's happening, is they're trying to bridge the gap between

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Speaker 3: two worlds. One is the fucking beer keg chugging punisher

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Speaker 3: it was like, I have issue forty five of that

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Speaker 3: one and if you remember correctly, this character does not

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Speaker 2: They say gadzookies like that's what they're kind of trying

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Speaker 2: to do. Is I bridge the gap?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And real talk, real question, do you want to

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Speaker 1: be in this with these punisher guys? So these fucking

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Speaker 1: like weird like uh new Chalk adjacent all lives matter types.

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Speaker 2: Fuck no, fuck no.

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Speaker 3: And this is this is where I get canceled. This

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Speaker 3: And then there's also the thing of, like you said that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the minions have no language and they're doing like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, this was filled with sweet tea from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: It feels okay, I will say this, this is completely

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that, it feels a little much like

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Speaker 1: Well, I would like to sit down, mister money and say, look,

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Speaker 1: I had to wait two years for a Marvel movie.

441
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: But now it's like they're putting them out at the

442
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: same goddamn time, with the TV show, with this cartoon,

443
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: with this time, And I'm kind of like, listen, like,

444
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: did you not watch in the Mood for Love by

445
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: Wan car Why you gotta you gotta have a little

446
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: fucking restraint teasing people. You gotta have a fuck movie

447
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: where nobody fucks exactly exactly nobody fucks. And you know,

448
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of like something that I

449
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: look and this is not me trying to be hoity

450
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: toity fucking film nerd. I'm saying that, like the Star

451
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: is Born movies, right, they come out every like fucking

452
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: twenty years, and I'm like, great, ah ah, every twenty years,

453
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: you get like a new person to play the characters,

454
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: whoever's hot, whoever's fucking get the chops at the time,

455
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: and it's great. Every twenty fucking years, like a beautiful

456
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: fucking comment or something that you watch with your children

457
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: and then you watch it as a child. It's just

458
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: like that's good.

459
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: And you know what happens when what happens in between

460
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: that twenty years is you give people time to cultivate

461
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: their nerdy obsession about the version that just came out. Yeah,

462
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: nobody has time to be a fucking nerd anymore because

463
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: they're too busy catching up to everything that's currently happening.

464
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: You can't dig into anything. There's no time, there's no

465
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: time to be a nerd.

466
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I don't know. I just every I know

467
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I have to come to the fucking pod and ask

468
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: you about these Marvel questions because I'm like, seriously, it

469
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: racks my brain. And look, I'm not trying to, like

470
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not. Every time I talk about my

471
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: like sort of apathy or something towards comic book movies

472
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: or science fiction or something like that, it's not I

473
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: don't actively hate it. I'm just saying that, like it

474
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: just doesn't really make me curious to see it. But

475
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: then I'm like, but when I do have the question,

476
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I have to ask you because I'm like, you're the

477
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: girl that I can count on to give me the

478
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: straight answer. Yeah, you get canceled, I'll back you up.

479
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: I'll back you up.

480
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna high end the Kurt Cobaine suicide. I'm just

481
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: gonna do it. You're gonna come to me and I'm

482
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 3: just gonna do it. And you know this and you

483
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 3: accept it, and I love it. I also think, and this.

484
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: Is again.

485
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: Not this is an opinion, but I do I think

486
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: that that that they are not giving us time to cultivate.

487
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: How much we can like something or someone.

488
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: And I am going I'm going to be a little

489
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: bit contradictory here though, because I think that I do

490
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: have Marvel movies that I love and that I've enjoyed.

491
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 3: But part of the reason I enjoy them is because

492
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: they are showing things in the movies that are like

493
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Easter eggs from the comic books or you know, things

494
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: like that where you're like, oh my god, they have

495
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: like a Modoc figurine on the on this desk. That's

496
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: really funny. If you know what Modoc is or you

497
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: know what that comic is. It's things like there's no

498
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: there's no enough room for Easter eggs. There's not enough

499
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: room for like I don't know, it just seems cloying

500
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: and weird now, and I just want people to give

501
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: me time to be a nerd and to like the

502
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: things I'm gonna like. And I will say this two

503
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: things that are gonna dismantle the entire last insane thirty

504
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: minute rant I've been on this diet coke fueled.

505
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: Up insanity. One.

506
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: I think Thor Ragnarok is a genuinely funny movie. It

507
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: is a genuinely funny movie because Chris Hemsworth is a

508
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: genuinely funny actor. Like I know, he looks like you know,

509
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: he's got like all see God thing going on, Yes,

510
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: but he is truly an oaf and like a very

511
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: and he's in on the joke enough to know that

512
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: like he and he's got he just has a great delivery.

513
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, and Taikowatiti wrote it,

514
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: and it just is a good movie.

515
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: It's it's a very fun movie.

516
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: I also will say that, if given the chance, I

517
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: would write a Marvel movie in a fucking heartbeat.

518
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: You would, I would, Okay, I personally think I'm gonna

519
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: pitch you some ideas for this. Make it very dry, yep,

520
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: make it very like igmar Bergmannesque. If you want like

521
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: fucking black and white make up black and white Marvel movie,

522
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: holy shit, and then have it be set infecking you know,

523
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: pastoral Sweden, or maybe like over near the water, and

524
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: have somebody say one word every five to seven minutes.

525
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: The rest is silence, no soundtrack.

526
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: When Marvel is ready to call it quits, all they

527
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: need to do is hire us to write that film,

528
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: and I will do it.

529
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: No action, no one's dying, no one's fighting.

530
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be the most introspective Marvel film of

531
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: all time, and it.

532
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: Will truly tank the company.

533
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. Deadline puts out an article that says,

534
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: the new Marvel movie that was written by these two

535
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: weird podcasters Daniel Henderson and Militia Cheriico made seven dollars

536
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: coder total gross worldwide gross seven dollars, and.

537
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: Those two people who bought tickets for that want their

538
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: money back.

539
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: And they had to see it at six am because

540
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay full pricey it.

541
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, Yeah it is.

542
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: It's weird, and it's it's true, though I think that

543
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely about the the way that superhero films

544
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: have now bitten now a large chunk of the movie audience. Yeah,

545
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: and also the combination of like movies. Superhero movies have

546
00:29:52,360 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: a huge presence in movie going, and our cultural baseline.

547
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: Right now is just give me the moves.

548
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: You don't have to make it funny, like, just give

549
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: me the give me the Minions version, give me the

550
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: beats and the cadence and I'm there.

551
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the comfort, the comfort juice. Well, listen,

552
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: thank you so much for indulging me with this conversation,

553
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: because honestly, like I was, I just was literally like

554
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm just the grouchiest movie going middle aged woman, Like

555
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here being like this crone. This crone

556
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: has no joy in her life. She hates the office,

557
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: she hates anything that sounds like the office, even the

558
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: superhero movies. And she should be put put down. Let's

559
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: take her out of the back and sugar, that's.

560
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: A lot of thoughts for the thirty minutes beforem film starts,

561
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: and you should just be nicer to yourself. Just walk out,

562
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: just leave there in the trailers. You don't need to

563
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: see those shits.

564
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: I know. Usually that's my big Like I used to

565
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: not go to trailers, and now I love them, but

566
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: now I hate them because they're not good for me

567
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: right now. I was like, oh, but I used to

568
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: love trailers. I used to love seeing what was coming out.

569
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: I will say the only trailer that looked fucking awesome

570
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: is the NUW David Bowie documentary. I was like, I'll

571
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: see that shit. Thanks for breaking up the office. The

572
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: David Bowie documentary did not have office esque humor in it.

573
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Thank you. I very appreciated that.

574
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: I'm actually very glad to hear that, because I would

575
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: not put it past anyone in this day and age.

576
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: To Cegi the bones of David Bowie into a fucking

577
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: gag where he's looking at the camera and like raising

578
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: his eyebrow, I was like, I would I don't want

579
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 3: have passed anybody.

580
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to know that David Bowie watched television.

581
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to know that he watched any TV

582
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: show that I might not like, because I swear I

583
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: want him to just I want him to have been

584
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: floating above us the entire time, with like the most

585
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: impeccable taste that has nothing to do with pop culture

586
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: or anything. I just want him to be his beautiful

587
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: alien self.

588
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: Listen, David Bowie never watched American TV. This is the

589
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: guidelines that I'm now placing. He never watched American TV.

590
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: He never took a shit. He was pure, and that's

591
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: just he never took a shit. And if he never

592
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: took a shit, he didn't sit on the fucking can

593
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: washing some bullshit on his phone. I don't think he

594
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: had a smartphone. I don't even think.

595
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: I think he still used Beta Max. I think he was.

596
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Right on the verge of like like a ninety year

597
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: old New York City order and an alien.

598
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you can't tell the difference.

599
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: You're like, all right, this guy either never shits or

600
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: he shits NonStop. He either never engages with pop culture,

601
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: or he's got nine hundred hours of Beta Max tapes.

602
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there's like two people in those two

603
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: people in this world that I don't want to know

604
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: anything about their taste, their interests. It's David Bowie and

605
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: Nick Cave. Do not tell me that Nick Cave does

606
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: anything uncool, like I just I don't want to hear it.

607
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Please don't tell me that he like plays team Trivia or.

608
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: Something were we together when I saw him in Los

609
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: Felies what, I don't.

610
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: Know who I was with.

611
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I forget it was someone who didn't even know who

612
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: he was, and so that was a heartbreak. But he

613
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: was with his son shopping in Los Feliz and I

614
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: saw them going towards the parking lot, and I was

615
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: parked in the same lot, and I veered hard into

616
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Skylight Books because I was like, I do not want

617
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: to know what Nick Cave drives, or if he drives.

618
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: If he's not getting into a fucking if Nick Cave

619
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: is not getting into a chauffeured hearse, I don't want

620
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 3: to see him in anything else. Like I don't want

621
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: to see Nick get into a Ford f one fifty.

622
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't even suggest it, right, So I

623
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: just went to the bookstore.

624
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't know what's gonna happen next, because

625
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: I've seen him walking down the street and he looks

626
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: very cool and dad like, and that's all I need.

627
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: He doesn't shit, and he doesn't drive a Ford f

628
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: one fifty.

629
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't don't invoke, don't evoke anything at

630
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: this point. Let's just let's keep these guys and there

631
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: and their coolness to themselves and I don't want to

632
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: know any more information.

633
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if he got into one of those cars,

634
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: like those smart cars that looks like a little tikes,

635
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 3: Like they're red and yellow.

636
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they call it?

637
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: No, forgetting literally everything I've ever known, the Richard scarymobiles

638
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: with the worm and the Apple with wheels. Oh yeah,

639
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: it's like a two person little pop tart car.

640
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god.

641
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: No, we'll have to well we we need to not think.

642
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: About this at all, but we can think about it

643
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: as our movies. We think our films.

644
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta tell you I finally did something.

645
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: I did.

646
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: What came up with the theme for Once? You did?

647
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: I did? And I was like very proud of myself.

648
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: You were probably like rolling your eyes and be like,

649
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what she's thinking. I come up with

650
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the best themes.

651
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: Not even close. I love this theme? You kidding me?

652
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's honestly because I really wanted to talk about

653
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: my movie and I'm like I'm shoehorning this shit and like, okay, listen,

654
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: we're doing this theme and you're like fine, and thank

655
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: god you did. Yeah, well you picked a good one too.

656
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: So you want to talk about what the theme is

657
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Speaker 1: this week, I'll tell.

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Speaker 3: Them what the theme is, and then I want you

659
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Speaker 3: to talk about the theme. Oh, because our theme that

660
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Speaker 3: Millie came up with and I love is have fun,

661
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Speaker 3: Stay single.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I'll give you a little bit of background

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Speaker 1: of why this is named this. So there's a movie

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Speaker 1: called Singles that came out in the nineties. It's a

665
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Speaker 1: Cameron Crowe movie, and there's a part of the movie

666
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Speaker 1: where the Campbell Scott character's dad tells him to have fun,

667
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Speaker 1: stay single. And I guess it's just kind of something

668
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: that reverberates through the film and that has always stuck

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Speaker 1: with me since the nineties, because of course I can't

670
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Speaker 1: let the nineties go and I only make references from

671
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: that period obviously, but it kind of is just this

672
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Speaker 1: thing of like, okay, well what does this mean, Like,

673
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: let's unpack it. Have fun, stay single meaning like relationships

674
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Speaker 1: and marriages are the bit of existence, and everybody should

675
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Speaker 1: stay single in order to have fun. Now we know

676
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: that that's not exactly true and it's very much complicated,

677
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Speaker 1: but I feel like for the theme this week, it

678
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: was that kind of thing where it's like, let's talk

679
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: about movies where either the character, the lead character should

680
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: stay single for the best reasons or is single and

681
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: is showing aside to singleness that doesn't get.

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Speaker 3: Talked about a lot, right, exactly exactly, And I think

683
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: your movie is so fantastic for the former reason, and

684
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Speaker 3: I picked my movie for the latter reason. And I

685
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: think that it's interesting that in a society that claims

686
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Speaker 3: to be so progressive, we still have the same tired

687
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Speaker 3: ass ideas about anyone who's not married.

688
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Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh. And that's something as women that

689
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: is just like a topic that is endlessly discussed and

690
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: thought about. And I mean, I quite honestly could do

691
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: an entire podcast about singleness. I could really do one.

692
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm almost I almost advocate for it in this very

693
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Speaker 1: big way where I feel like people should experience being

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Speaker 1: single for an extended period of time. And when I

695
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: say single, I mean you're not atatively dating. Yes, so

696
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: you're not sleeping with people, you're not on tender, you're

697
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: not on any of those apps, you're not kind of

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00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: in a weird situation with your roommate. You are truly alone.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like people who can get to that

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Speaker 1: point and feel okay with it will have a transcendent moment.

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Speaker 1: This is my opinion.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree, and I think that when you are

703
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Speaker 3: comfortable being alone, you become unfuck withable in certain ways

704
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Speaker 3: because now you can now set a baseline boundary for

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Speaker 3: yourself about how you will be treated by anyone, romantic

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Speaker 3: or not. And I think that is what is important

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Speaker 3: about spending time on your own. It's not to say

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Speaker 3: that being in a relationship is bad or we're condemning

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Speaker 3: relationships or anything like that. And that is the other

710
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Speaker 3: thing I can't stand about how the way people usually

711
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Speaker 3: talk about singleness. They talk about it like it's not

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Speaker 3: a choice, and they talk about it as if it's

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Speaker 3: some way a negative response to relationships, and it's not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I was on a front.

715
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Speaker 1: One of my dear friends in the world, Heather Jewett.

716
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: She listens to the pod she herself has her own

717
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Patreon podcast called Bimbo Summit Genius name, and she talks

718
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Speaker 1: a lot about this. She talks a lot about being single.

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Speaker 1: She's currently not single, but like she talks about the

720
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Speaker 1: times where she was and when in that same way

721
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Speaker 1: that I just spoke about where she was not dating,

722
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: she was not going out there having crushes, she was

723
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: just literally working on herself and pursuing her own path

724
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Speaker 1: and her own interests. And she was like, it is

725
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: the greatest It was the greatest moment of my life.

726
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: It really changed everything for me. Like you learn how

727
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: to like soothe yourself emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually, Like you

728
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: are really on your own. And I don't know, there's

729
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: something about that where if you can just strip away

730
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Speaker 1: like all of that kind of stuff and just kind

731
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Speaker 1: of be in the pure moment of singleness, like it's

732
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Speaker 1: it's kind of magical, and it really does change you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's motivating, it's inspirational. There's there in the time

734
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Speaker 3: that we have on the limited time that we have

735
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Speaker 3: on this earth, why not spend some time getting to

736
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Speaker 3: know yourself. And there's something just inherently sad to me

737
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Speaker 3: when someone will say something to me like, well, I

738
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Speaker 3: haven't been single since I was fourteen and now they're

739
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Speaker 3: in their like mid to late forties, and I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 3: so for most of your life you have not ever

741
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Speaker 3: spent time with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is wild to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as a lot of people think that

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Speaker 1: being single is not an option, Like they feel like

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Speaker 1: the only reason why people would be single is because

746
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Speaker 1: no one wants to be in a relationship with them

747
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Speaker 1: mm hmm or something. And I'm like, no, that's not

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Speaker 1: true a lot, like anybody can find partnership whatever that

749
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Speaker 1: looks like. But sometimes people decide to actually not do it.

750
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Speaker 1: And that's fine. It's not because it's a lack of

751
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Speaker 1: is what I guess what.

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Speaker 2: I means, yes, and that is that is the narrative

753
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: that needs to change.

754
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: It's not a lack of yeah, it's an attention to yeah.

755
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Speaker 1: And I feel like in my movie, like in particular,

756
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Speaker 1: I might have to spoil it just because well, a

757
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: it's old, it's from the forties. I feel like I

758
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: could spoil it at this point. But also it is that,

759
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: like you know, it ultimately proves my point, I think,

760
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: right at the end of the day. But also for

761
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: your movie, it does get a little complicated for her

762
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Speaker 1: in that way, like she does maybe find somebody that

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Speaker 1: she likes, but I feel like she just has such

764
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: a healthy attitude about being who she is at all

765
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Speaker 1: times that it almost was like, well, it doesn't even

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Speaker 1: really matter even if she never met anyone, she would

767
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: still be happy. Yep, which is great.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Oh I cannot wait to get into these well you're.

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Speaker 1: First, yes, yes, yes, yes, okay. I've been wanting to

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Speaker 1: talk about his movie forever and we're finally doing it.

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Speaker 1: So my movie for the theme have fun Stay Single

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Speaker 1: is a movie from nineteen forty nine. It was written

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Speaker 1: by Ruth and Augustus gets from their play of the

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Speaker 1: same name that was based off a novel by Henry James.

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Speaker 1: It was directed by William Wyler and it's called The Heiress.

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Speaker 2: You must take me away, He must love me. You

777
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: must take hold of yourself. No, no, Maris must take

778
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: hold of me. Marris will love me.

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Speaker 1: For all those who didn't, I think I mentioned William Wyler,

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Speaker 1: the director of this film before, when I was pontificating

781
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: on Memphis Bell from the Is It Good or Was

782
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I Horny? Episode from a million years ago? Now, he

783
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: was the guy that I talked about that directed the

784
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: documentary that the movie Memphis Spell was based off of. Right,

785
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: So if you want to hear more about William Wyler,

786
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: just go to that episode because I talk about him.

787
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: He directed like best years of our Lives Little Foxes

788
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of great old classic Hollywood stuff. But

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Speaker 1: the Heiress, Oh my god, Like, where do I even

790
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: start to say that this movie resonates with me? Would

791
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: be an understatement. It is, quite frankly, like I have

792
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: this like low key obsession with it, and any time

793
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: it comes on TV, I like, I'm like a bot,

794
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: like a Twitter bot for this movie coming.

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00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: On to you.

796
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Speaker 1: Like, by the way, the Heiress is on, everyone watch it.

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Speaker 1: So a one sentence synopsis of this film, are you ready?

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00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: A woman who has been constantly put down her entire

800
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: life finally experiences true freedom when she stops hanging out

801
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: with men.

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00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: Could not be better.

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00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a little bit more nuanced than that, but

804
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I just I love a one sentenced zinger. So, the

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Speaker 1: lead character of The Heiress is this woman named Catherine Sloper,

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Speaker 1: and she's played by the classic film actress Olivia to Havelin. Now,

807
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: if you don't know Olivia to Havelin by name, she

808
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: had a very long and fascinating career. In fact, she

809
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: only died a few years ago, and she died at

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Speaker 1: the age of one hundred and four, so she lived

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Speaker 1: a while. She was definitely on the Smucker's roster on

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Speaker 1: the Today Show, so Danielle might have heard it while

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00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: she was watching three hours of the Today Show. She

814
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Speaker 1: was in a lot of really famous films. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she was in God with the Wind, and she was

816
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Speaker 1: in a lot of movies with Errol Flynn. I mean

817
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: they were like in maybe like eight or nine movies together,

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Speaker 1: and they had a lot of drama on and off screen.

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Speaker 1: So if you ever feel like reading about that, she

820
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: also has drama with her sister Joan, I feel like

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Speaker 1: that should be something you guys can read about. In

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Speaker 1: this movie, The Heiress, Okay, she is a She plays

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Speaker 1: this woman Catherine, who is a single adult woman living

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Speaker 1: in New York City in the eighteen fifties, and she

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Speaker 1: lives with her father, doctor Austin Sloper, who is played

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Speaker 1: by the famous British actor Ralph Richardson, who you gotta

827
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Speaker 1: go in a Wikipedia hole about him too. He's great,

828
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: you should read about him. But so okay, it's suggested

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Speaker 1: that they make this very clear in the book apparently

830
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Speaker 1: and in the play, but maybe not in the film.

831
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Speaker 1: Catherine's mother apparently dies while giving birth to her, and

832
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: this tragedy is kind of at the center of their

833
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: entire family and has been ever since it happened. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Catherine's aunt, who is named Lavinia pennimanl She beautiful name, beautiful,

835
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Speaker 1: eighteen fifties name. She's played by Miriam Hawkins, who's awesome aunt.

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Speaker 1: Lavinia has recently been widowed and she ends up moving

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Speaker 1: in with them at the beginning of the film. Now,

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00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Lavinia loves love, Okay, like she's bummed out that her

839
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: husband died, but ultimately she loves love and she wants

840
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: Catherine to get married basically at any cost. Yeah, and

841
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: throughout the entire film, she's like wanting to live essentially

842
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: vicariously through Catherine definitely put a pin in that. We're

843
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that later. But the first few bits

844
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Speaker 1: of the film, Catherine's character is being established, and it

845
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: is established that she's very shy, she's very awkward, and

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00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: she kind of keeps this like uber Plaine look. And

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00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: they demonstrate this by giving the naturally beautiful actress Olivia

848
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Speaker 1: de havlind while unplucked eyebrows, they give her some bags

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00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: under her eyes, and then they just give her like

850
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Speaker 1: a severe butt cut. They're like, Wila she's ugly. Here

851
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: we go. Ah ah. This is like such a wild

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00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: concept because it's like, I mean, how many times have

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00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: we talked about this where they take like beautiful young

854
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: people and they're like, let's make her ugly.

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00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Princess Diaries done.

856
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: Yes, it's always funny the makeup and the effects that

857
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Speaker 1: they give somebody to make them look ugly, like a

858
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: butt cut. You got it. So the other thing, too,

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00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: is that Catherine is very much into embroidery, which she

860
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: does on like one of those big wooden stands.

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00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gold loom.

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00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Oh is it called a loom? Now, y'all are gonna

863
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: have to forget your modern notions about crafting because now

864
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: it's very subversive in punk rock. But in eighteen fifty

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Speaker 1: if you were into embroidery, you were basically a spin

866
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Speaker 1: her nerd with no life. That's just the way it was.

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Speaker 3: And it was because everything you made took like four

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Speaker 3: years to complete.

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Speaker 2: So if you start an embroidery project in.

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00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 3: The eighteen fifties, you're basically saying to people, I don't

871
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: plan on doing having any life for the next four years.

872
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't plan on going anywhere. I'm not traveling.

873
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here in this chair next to this fireplace,

874
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: doing exactly this for four years.

875
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has no man's and no dates. That's why

876
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: she's doing embroidery. And her father says this. Her father

877
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: basically alludes to this at the beginning of the film.

878
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: He tells Lavinia, all right, get Catherine away from this

879
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: wooden thing and just bring her to this engagement party

880
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: for our niece, because this is too sad.

881
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: Lavinia is like she is, she is.

882
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: She says everything with a smile, and everything she says

883
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: is wilder than the next thing. Like she starts out

884
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: the movie being like, oh, I went to I met

885
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: two people from Boughkeepsie who were the most exciting. It

886
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: was the most excite And I'm like, I assure you,

887
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: those words will never be uttered again for another seventy years.

888
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: This bitch took an hour bus ride to Poughkeepsie and

889
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: was like, that was the highlight of her fucking year.

890
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: Will not be uttered again until the nineteen fucking eighties.

891
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Never again.

892
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: And then she's like she's always telling Catherine too, Like

893
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: Katherine's like, I don't really like talking to people, Like

894
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 3: I'm kind of awkward and shy at it, and she's like, oh, well,

895
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 3: I talk all the time and I've just got nothing

896
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: to say, and I'm like what, and then she'll The

897
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: wildest one for me is when they're in the car

898
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: on the way to the party or the carriage on

899
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 3: the way to the party, and they're talking about her

900
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: husband who's just passed away and he was a pastor,

901
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: and she's like, I guess her doctor Sloper was like

902
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: you know, eh, yeah, you're just sad, and she's like, well,

903
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just grease stricken.

904
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: Wherever I go, might as well go to a party.

905
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: And then she starts laughing, and I'm like, Okay, Lavinia

906
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: is fucking on one.

907
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: I need a whole movie about her.

908
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: Immediately exactly, She's just like laughing through my grief.

909
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: It is like fucking sucking down lauden them.

910
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what the hell she's doing, but she's like,

911
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if.

912
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: She's like I went and panned for gold.

913
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: Like she's just on it and nothing will stop her

914
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: from trying to turn Catherine into like the life of

915
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: the party.

916
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's just not happening. Okay, and we

917
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: got to talk about doctor Slopper. Now, Like I said,

918
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: Doctor Slopper is played by Ralph Richardson. Ralph rich said

919
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: is an incredible actor, and he is pretty much the

920
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: only person that's going to be able to accurately be

921
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: the motherfucker that he is in this movie, because he

922
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: is one of the worst dads in film history. For

923
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: my money, For my money, yeah, because here's the vibe

924
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: with him, right, So, his wife died while giving birth

925
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: to his daughter, and he has openly resented Catherine ever

926
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: since this has happened. He uses every moment to remind

927
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: Catherine that she's basically just a fucking fraction of the

928
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: beauty and grace and personality that her mom was.

929
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like he basically walks into every room, looks

930
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: at Catherine and just goes ugh, yeah, like he just

931
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: like he might as well just make that sound because

932
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: he's just like and he says the most cutting, horrible

933
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: things to her.

934
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh she's like a word of red dress

935
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, your mother looked better and red. I'm like, bitch,

936
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: what in the fuck. I'm sorry, Like is this your

937
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: everyday life? Like you cut her down that much? And

938
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing is the only thing, literally, the only

939
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: thing he says that she's got going for her at

940
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: all is that she is quote worth thirty thousand a year, okay,

941
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: which we find out means that Catherine gets ten grand

942
00:51:53,719 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: a year from her mother's death okay, and actually when

943
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: her father passes away, she will get twenty thousand more. So,

944
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: of course, in eighteen fifty, this meant that she'd be

945
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: fucking loaded, okay. But basically her dad is like, that's

946
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: all your that's all you have in this world is

947
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: you got thirty grand a year and you got nothing else.

948
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 3: You remember that scene from teen Witch where he's like

949
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: you're a dog, Luise a dog.

950
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: That's basically her dad.

951
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: In every scene he's like, you are a fucking dud,

952
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: and I cannot believe that this is what came out

953
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: of the beauty that was your fucking mother.

954
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And he's he's constantly compared to her, to

955
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: a woman that she's actually never met. I mean, she

956
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: does well given Brent to her. So it's kind of

957
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: this thing where you're like, you do the math, okay.

958
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: Anybody that's experiencing all this messaging would fucking be a disaster,

959
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: Am I right? Yes, yes, so okay, cut too. They're

960
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: trying to get her to go to this party. Catherine's

961
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: brand is strong, know that she don't want to go

962
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: to this party at all, but she gets coaxed into going.

963
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: And of course it's awkward, right because she doesn't know

964
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: how to dance or how to hold a fucking fan,

965
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: which again in eighteen fifty, it's like, you don't know

966
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: how to hold a fan. I guess that means that

967
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: you're feral and you get to go live on a

968
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: more like a ghost from a fucking Kate Bush song.

969
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, so yeah, but again this is eighteen

970
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: fifty rules.

971
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

972
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know those rules.

973
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: You can't hold a fan, so we have to drag

974
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: you out to the fucking bogs.

975
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: They're gonna live with the fucking bog monster. You're gonna

976
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: live in his mouth, and you only come out when

977
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: a little kid has a siren's call out of a shell.

978
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like, goddamn, because she can't do

979
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: a waltz. Come on.

980
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: And also she's living in this way that like they're

981
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: dragging her out in public constantly just to make her feel.

982
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: Feel bad, like she can't do anything right.

983
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. So she's at the party, she's

984
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with the adults, you know, and then you know,

985
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: one guy comes over asks her to dance. He eventually

986
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: pieces the fuck out on her, which she is like

987
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: legit disappointed by. And then another guy walks up. And

988
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: this guy is named Morris Townsend and he's played by

989
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: the classic movie fuck boy Royalty himself, Montgomery Clift. And

990
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: not for nothing, Montgomery is just as handsome, or maybe

991
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: even more handsome than he was in A Place in

992
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: the Sun. You gotta go listen to our episode about

993
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: that to know what I'm talking about. But here's the thing,

994
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: much like his role in A Place in the Sun,

995
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: he comes in real hot yet again, and Catherine is

996
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: shooketh shooketh.

997
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: They I know they didn't exist back then, but he

998
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: basically breathed in on a pair of wheelies.

999
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: He was like, zoop, what's up? I'm in your fucking

1000
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: life now.

1001
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: Yes, He's like, I just breezed in from Europe? Who

1002
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: are you? And she's like holding her poor little dance

1003
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: card in her like little tiny golf pencil, and she's

1004
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: like shaking when he's talking to her, you know, and

1005
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: she's like, he's like, I want to dance with you.

1006
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 2: She's like oh h.

1007
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Like oh my god. And here's the thing. So they dance.

1008
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: He shows her some kindness, teaches her a few fucking

1009
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: moves on the dance floor, and at the end of

1010
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: the evening he's like, hey, I would like to take

1011
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: you out, and she's like okay, yeah, right, all right,

1012
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: see yah right, Like there's no way, right because he's

1013
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: so handsome and he's so cool and no one ever

1014
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: asked her to dance that kind of thing.

1015
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: He's hip, he's cool, he's forty five.

1016
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's said he's cool, he's forty five in eighteen fifteen.

1017
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: But then so over the course of the next week,

1018
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: this guy cannot stop contacting her. He's coming over, he's

1019
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: set in her flowers. He's very persistent, and needless to say,

1020
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Lavinia is loving every second of it because she's like

1021
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: she's again, she's widowed in a way, her lot in

1022
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: life is already laid out right, and she's basically like

1023
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: saying in so many words to Catherine, like don't be

1024
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: like me, don't be this like spinster lonely lady for

1025
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. Go out and find love,

1026
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: even if it's wrong, even if it's wrong. So here's

1027
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the thing. So in this moment of the movie is

1028
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: when I certainly but maybe you as a viewer, would

1029
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: go like, all right, what's going on with this guy

1030
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: Morris Townsend. Okay, First of all, you're like, in one moment,

1031
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: you're like, well, hey, I'm not completely negative. Maybe he

1032
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: really does like her, and maybe he's just not afraid

1033
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: to make it known, right, And he's seeing past a

1034
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: lot of these things that she doesn't see within herself,

1035
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: which is very sweet and endeary. However, there's the other

1036
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: side of the coin, where it's like, Okay, here's this

1037
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: guy that comes in real hot and is definitely refusing

1038
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: to read the situation for what it is, which is

1039
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: that even if you really like this woman, she's very skeptical.

1040
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: She's having a hard time dating, and maybe you got

1041
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more sensitive to that instead

1042
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: of just steam rolling over her with your relentlessness. Right. Yes,

1043
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: And like I said, he spends an entire rig trying

1044
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: to get in the front door, and then he finally

1045
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: gets in the door. He has dinner with Catherine and

1046
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: doctor Sloper. He's rapid fire fucking handing out compliments to

1047
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: both of them. And then this other thing that he reveals,

1048
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: which is that you know because doctor Sloper. Doctor Sloper

1049
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: is shaking his ass down. He's like, so tell me

1050
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: all about yourself. I need to know everything. And he's like, well,

1051
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: I was in Europe for the past however many months

1052
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: or years, and you know, I had a small inheritance,

1053
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: but I blew it all in Europe because I was

1054
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: backpacking like I like you do. And also I don't

1055
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: have a damn job.

1056
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: I might need a job, and I live with my

1057
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: sister and.

1058
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: I am not giving her money at all.

1059
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't give her a goddamn sign for my inheritance,

1060
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: and I kind of tutor her kids and I make

1061
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: her pay me.

1062
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's that info, and I don't have to

1063
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: say it. But doctor Sloper is immediately like okay, he

1064
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: is sus And what does not help at all is

1065
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: that Morris pretty much asks Catherine to marry him immediately.

1066
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 3: After dinner, absolutely on his way out the door. I'd

1067
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, ps, will you marry me? And

1068
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: she's like, I absolutely fucking will, because you're the only

1069
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: person who's ever fucking asked.

1070
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they move fast in eighteen fifteen,

1071
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: but I was like, damn, that is too fast, right,

1072
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: And to make matters even worse, Okay, Morris tells Catherine

1073
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: in that moment that he's like, let's get married.

1074
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: He says, listen, I'm poor. Let's get serious.

1075
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: Your dad is gonna think that I want you for

1076
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: your money, and you gotta tell him at ain't true.

1077
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: And if he says no, we gotta get married anyway,

1078
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: Like he's already like doing the grift where he is like,

1079
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: I came up with all possible solutions to all problems,

1080
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: so it's all set up right, very weird. I mean,

1081
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: I want to believe in true love, but this is

1082
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: all so sketchy to me, and I'm just like, here's

1083
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: the thing. She tells her dad the next day, and

1084
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: as we say, all hell breaks loose.

1085
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: Look, doctor Sloper is already mean as fuck when he

1086
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 3: finds out this information. The cork is taken off of

1087
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 3: the bottle of asshole sauce and he is just spreading

1088
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 3: it everywhere liberally.

1089
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: So I've actually had debates with film men about this okay,

1090
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: because some people will believe that, Okay, here's just a

1091
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: dad that just wants to protect his daughter from this

1092
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: gentleman grifter. Sometimes people don't get it, and sometimes you

1093
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: gotta slap him over the head with the knowledge.

1094
00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: No.

1095
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: For me, I feel like the moment I really turn

1096
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: on the dad is when doctor Sloper calls in Morris's sister,

1097
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: right sister or aunt not kister. Sister calls in Morris's

1098
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: sister to be like, all right, so do you know

1099
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: what's going on with these two? And you know, she

1100
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: comes over and is like, yeah, I mean they're getting married.

1101
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: What's the big deal? And the father does this thing

1102
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: where he basically is like, well, come and take a

1103
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: look at my daughter, and you're under you will understand.

1104
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: While I'm losing my shit right now, I'm just like,

1105
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: that is cold as hell.

1106
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 3: That is not someone with good intentions. And here's the

1107
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: other I turned on him before that, but that really

1108
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: sealed the deal for me, because he one is constantly

1109
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 3: putting her down, comparing her to her mother, telling her

1110
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 3: she's not enough, she's not good at anything. He's like,

1111
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 3: the only thing I've ever seen you do well is embroidery,

1112
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: which is like, fuck, that is a burn of a

1113
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: century for eighteen fifty. He's like, all you can do

1114
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 3: is sit at home with this fucking hope and a needle,

1115
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: and you're like Jesus, So he's like fucking insulting his

1116
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: shit up to that point. Then he's like, take a

1117
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: look at this fucking dud, and when you know, the

1118
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 3: sister's over there, And then what really gets me about

1119
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: him is like he's not making any suggestion to her

1120
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: about maybe this guy is someone you could marry, or

1121
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: maybe you stay single and you just have your inheritance

1122
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: and you teach, or you become a nurse or you

1123
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: do something else, Like he is not interested in her

1124
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: happiness at all.

1125
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he's making literally no other suggestions. I mean

1126
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: we he wants her to get married, because obviously he's

1127
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: calling her a big fucking nerd and he's like, stopping

1128
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: such a nerd with your needles and your loom, like,

1129
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: so it's obviously he wants her to do something. But

1130
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: then he shits on her an attempt to maybe get

1131
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: out of that, and it's it's ultimately sort of like, well,

1132
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: then what do you want from this woman? Right, like

1133
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: what do you want from your own daughter? And what

1134
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: ends up happening is that, like they end up having

1135
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: a big Morris Catherine and the dad. The dad decides

1136
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: to take Catherine to Europe for a while so that

1137
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 1: maybe she'll forget about Morris. It's such a curse trip.

1138
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: They come back early and basically he tells her to

1139
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: her face, like he says it finally to her face,

1140
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: like you are ugly, you're ungraceful, and you have nothing

1141
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: to offer but your money. And she's like flatlined. At

1142
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: this point, she's like I'm devastated, like like fuck this okay,

1143
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. This is where I'm gonna come in,

1144
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna spoil it because I just I just

1145
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: have to talk about what happens. But basically what ends

1146
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: up happening is if you don't want to hear about this,

1147
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: then skip. Okay. So she's had this the ultimate fight

1148
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: with the dad. Morris is outside and he's like, come down.

1149
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: You were gone for however long in Europe and I

1150
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: haven't seen you since. Then come down. I have a plan.

1151
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: We're going to Alowe. So she comes down and basically

1152
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: she says, yeah, let's elope and he has this whole

1153
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: plan of like, oh, like tomorrow will stay at this

1154
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: like you know, bed and breakfast and get a carriage

1155
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: and all this like shit, and she's like, fuck that,

1156
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: why wait till tomorrow, Let's go tonight and guess what.

1157
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: Let's not cut on my dad for anything, Okay, like

1158
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: I will. I hate his ass. I would love to

1159
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: be estranged from him at this point and we'll just

1160
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: live together happy as a married couple and we don't

1161
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: need him for anything, like, let's go right now. I'm done.

1162
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: In this moment, you can see Morris and it's like

1163
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: the wind is just out of his sails. And because

1164
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, she wants to make a clean break with

1165
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: the father, and then all of a sudden, he pivots

1166
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: to this whole like, well, well, come on, let's not

1167
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: be rash, like he's the only father you have, and

1168
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: let's not be too hasty to cut it off. And

1169
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: it's like do you really used to think that or

1170
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: is it just that you are going, well, I guess

1171
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: we ain't getting that twenty thousand a.

1172
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: Year exactly, and we might not even get the ten

1173
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: because she's like, I don't want anything from him ever

1174
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: at all.

1175
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and so she's like, all right, let's go see

1176
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: in an hour or whatever. She runs upstairs, gets packed.

1177
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: She's so fucking excited. She's like, I'm starting the new

1178
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: life tonight. And she's waiting on him and waiting on him,

1179
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: and he never shows up.

1180
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: Ah bick movie fuck boy breaks my heart every time

1181
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: I sit it.

1182
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: And the rest of the movie plays out like this again,

1183
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: Spoilers abound. He never shows She's heartbroken, life all life

1184
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: has been altered. Cut to the future, Doctor Slopper dies

1185
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: and she gets her money. Okay, more meanwhile, fucked off

1186
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: to California. We don't care. But then he comes back

1187
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 1: intew one day and he finds out that she's still

1188
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: there in the house and he's like, I gotta see you,

1189
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: I gotta see you, blah blah blah blah, and Katherine

1190
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: is like, oh, hell no, hell no. With this guy.

1191
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: He comes to the house, she doesn't even want to

1192
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: let him in, okay, but then finally he charms his

1193
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: ass back into the house. She lets him actually say

1194
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: his stupid apology for not showing up when they were

1195
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: supposed to get married. And then this guy asked her

1196
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: to marry him again. So he's like, oh, your dad's dead,

1197
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: you got the money, Let's go, like come on, game on.

1198
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: And this is the moment where Catherine is like all right,

1199
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: like everything has been leading up to this moment. Here's

1200
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: this guy groveling at my feet, and she's like, all right,

1201
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: let's go then go get things. I'll I'll see what

1202
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: I see it in a few hours. And then the

1203
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: minute he walks out, she's like, bolt the door, Maria.

1204
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: She's like, he ain't coming back in, and she just

1205
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: leaves him knocking at the front door, like pounding the door,

1206
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: like I love you, let me in, and she's just like,

1207
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm going upstairs. I'm doing some more embroidery. I'll, I'll

1208
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: literally do anything but entertain this motherfucker for another second.

1209
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: And it is the most supremely satisfying ending to this movie.

1210
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 3: Turned the tides. Fucking got him with his own game, Yes.

1211
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: Got him with his own game. And her speech at

1212
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: the end is so gangster. She's basically like, you know,

1213
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: he told all these lies. He came a first time,

1214
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: he came a second time. He won't be coming again,

1215
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yes, in the eighteen fifty Swag,

1216
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: bring it Catherine, we love it, and that is part

1217
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: of what I think this movie is. This is why

1218
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: this movie is so memorable to me is because this

1219
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: in this era, in late nineteen forties, even hm, it

1220
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: was very bold for a movie to end this way.

1221
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: Usually what would happen is what she would He would

1222
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: somehow show how wonderful he was, that he made this

1223
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: epic mistake, and they would end up together. But no,

1224
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: she fucking stays single. She stays on her own, she

1225
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: stays to her principles. And I think that's so fresh,

1226
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: so fresh for like classic Hollywood, and I love this

1227
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: movie for that. I love that it ended like that.

1228
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: I do too, And I love that she not only

1229
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 3: got fucking Morris in the end, she got her dad too.

1230
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: She got back at all these motherfuckers just by surviving,

1231
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: just by having some longevity.

1232
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: And being like, uh, I don't want to.

1233
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 3: Make a decision about this because you broke my heart

1234
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 3: and you fucking hate me even though you're my father.

1235
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: So I'll wait for you to die, snatch that money

1236
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: that you fucking don't want to give me, you want

1237
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 3: to leave to some clinic, and I'll wait for you

1238
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 3: to come back and gravel and guess what who wins?

1239
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: I got everything? She got everything?

1240
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, like there isn't a moment

1241
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: to me. I mean the certainly could have had like

1242
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: a horrible feeling of like, well, now she's just gonna

1243
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: be alone with her money. How sad is that? I'm like, no,

1244
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: she has her she has her autonomy, like she has

1245
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: she played it the way she wanted to. And I

1246
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: know that in this night eighteen fifties era, you know

1247
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: that was probably a fucked up move for sure, But

1248
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: she's like I don't care, Like I'd rather have my

1249
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: dignity than to be with a guy who is clearly

1250
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: using me yep, or is at least completely unreliable. Bear mens, so.

1251
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 3: Fucking goes to California instead of just saying, you know what,

1252
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 3: I actually can't marry you if you don't have any

1253
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: money because I don't have any money and we need

1254
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: some money, so can.

1255
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: You get a little bit of money? And then we

1256
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 2: come back like nothing?

1257
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that, dude, I know, and thank you

1258
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: for saying that, because they're, like I said, I've gotten

1259
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: into debates with people about this movie where they felt

1260
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: sorry for Morris or they felt sorry for doctor Sloper,

1261
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't see it that way. And

1262
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't see it that way.

1263
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 1: I just say it diffly.

1264
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 3: And they gotta stop sitting that fucking patriarchy juice is

1265
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: what's up. There's no reason to feel bad for Morris.

1266
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 3: Morris is cruising around the fucking country grifting women and

1267
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: that is his job. He did not love her, he

1268
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 3: did not love her. There is no reason to feel

1269
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 3: bad for that fucking character.

1270
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: Well, and here's why is because there's a moment in

1271
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: the film, like towards the end where she invites him

1272
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: back in the house. He has this thing. It is

1273
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: literally like a two second moment where she lets him

1274
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: back in the house and she's like okay, like I

1275
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: forgive you, like I'll be back, and he looks around

1276
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: the house and he's like, mm hmmm, I'm living here,

1277
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: Like I'll be here in twenty minutes, living here in

1278
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: this beautiful place and my all my rubied, my rubies

1279
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: and diamonds all over my buttons or whatever the hell

1280
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: she got him from Europe. And I'm just like, that

1281
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: is the difference. The difference is that like it ain't

1282
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: the thing where he's like, I'm just you know, so

1283
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: messed up and I need you to forgive me. He's like, no, no, no,

1284
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: he has there's a grift like look at his face

1285
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: looking he's looking around and he knows what he's he's

1286
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: going to enter into if he just keeps buttering up

1287
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: this poor woman. So I don't know. I don't feel

1288
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: sorry for Morris either. I do love to think about

1289
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: the Montgomery Cliff fuck boy trajectory of both this movie

1290
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: and A Place in the Sun. I don't know when

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: he gets decent. I guess maybe in like from Here

1292
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: to Eternity. Did he play a fuck boy in that movie?

1293
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's pretty good in

1294
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: that movie. But anyway, anyway, such a great movie. Please

1295
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: watch it. It is to me. There's this really great

1296
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: conversation on the criterion disc for The Heiress by Farren Smith,

1297
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: Nemi and Jay Cox who they talk about the Eirass

1298
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: and they talk a lot about the play and the book,

1299
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: which is great because I know sort of less about

1300
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: those two, but they they kind of like weave it

1301
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: all in together and it's so interesting. Definitely check it out.

1302
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: But that's my movie. Justice for Katherine Sloper. We love her.

1303
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: Justice for Katherine Sloper h such a great movie, absolutely

1304
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: must be watched. My film takes a little bit of

1305
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 3: a different, a different approach. Oh my god, I Have

1306
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: Fun Stay.

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: Single, dude.

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: I haven't seen your movie since it came out, and

1309
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: it is fucking so awesome, Like I forgot how awesome

1310
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: it was.

1311
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: Well.

1312
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 3: My pick for our theme of Have Fun, Stay Single

1313
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: was a film that was released in two thousand and eight.

1314
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: It was written and directed by Mike Lee, and it

1315
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 3: is happy, Go lucky.

1316
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: Let's take love seriously, Paul pet you could be joking

1317
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 2: to be happy. That's all I am happy. I love

1318
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: my life. I've got great joke, amazing friends. Yeah, it

1319
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: could be tough at times, that's part of it.

1320
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna give my one sentence synopsis up top.

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: A deeply happy London primary school teacher defies the natural

1322
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: order by enjoying her life without focusing on finding a partner.

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: Yes now.

1324
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: Mike Lee is a very well known and respected director.

1325
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 3: He's famous for things like like Secrets and Lies via

1326
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: Drake and Naked, which brought David Thulis into my life

1327
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: and many other people's lives. Naked's a great They're all

1328
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 3: great films, but Naked if you haven't seen this.

1329
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: Particularly great.

1330
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: And the one thing I will say is that, so

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01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: the main character is Poppy, played by Sally Hawkins, and

1332
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: she did win the Golden Globe for this this role.

1333
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: And Poppy lives in London, and you know, she teaches

1334
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: young kids and takes everything with a grain of salt

1335
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 3: and just finds everything humorous and also really spends a

1336
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: lot of time with her friends, like having fun and

1337
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 3: drinking and she just has fun.

1338
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: She just has a fun life.

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01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 3: And she lives with her friend Zoe, who's played by

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: Alexa Segerman, who's just such a great foil to Poppy

1341
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 3: as the movie goes on. And what I really love

1342
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: about the movie and the reason I picked it is

1343
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: because it's not because she's someone who stays single. It's

1344
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 3: because she's someone who doesn't. It's not the focus of

1345
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: her life to not be single, and she still has

1346
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: a very good life there. Just like a hilarious scene

1347
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 3: in the beginning where she's, you know, having a night

1348
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 3: out with her friends and they come back to the

1349
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: apartment and they're just like goofing off, and then she

1350
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: wakes up the next morning and does not have a hangover,

1351
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: Like she's one of those kinds of people, like everyone else.

1352
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: Is wrecked and she's like, what's up?

1353
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: Time to get up.

1354
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,480
Speaker 2: But what I really like about.

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 3: And I wanted to make this up top as well,

1356
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 3: because I think that there's a trope called the manic

1357
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: pixie dream girl, which I'm sure most of you have

1358
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: heard about, and it would be really easy to try

1359
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 3: to ascribe that trope to this character. But that type

1360
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: of character, you know, Nathan Raven who created that, that

1361
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 3: whole phrase, it's meant to be someone who exists kind

1362
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: of solely to teach men about the mysteries of life

1363
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: or like how to be adventurous or something. And that

1364
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: is not her. That is not her. Rais on debt,

1365
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 3: like she's not trying to teach men anything at all.

1366
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're so right, because that, to me, I feel

1367
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: like it gets so overused now where it's like, oh,

1368
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: just a quirky female character, like any character that's not

1369
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: being a complete bitch is a manic pixie dream girl

1370
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: or something where I'm just like, no, that that term

1371
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: felt like it was created to describe sort of like this,

1372
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: like male fantasy, yes, person versus just like a character

1373
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: that is not motivated, like it's her character, the Sally

1374
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: Hawkins character of this movie does not exist for the

1375
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: pleasures of men in any way. And she's her own character,

1376
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: but she's the center of the film. So it's kind

1377
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: of like if there are men that come across her,

1378
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: that come across her, it's just incidental. It's not the

1379
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: whole reason for the film type of thing.

1380
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 3: Right, completely completely, And that was the man fixie dream

1381
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 3: girl thing was created to describe Kirsten Dunston Elizabethtown, and

1382
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 3: you're right, it's like about women who have no motivations

1383
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 3: of their own. And she from the beginning of the

1384
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 3: film is very ambitious, where she's making these like paper

1385
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: brown bag bird masks she and Zoe you're making. And

1386
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: at first, what I like about this movie is at

1387
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: first you don't know what's going on with her, Like

1388
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: you're like, what is her story? Is she an artist?

1389
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 3: Is she like what is going on? Why is she

1390
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 3: so happy and kind of out there and artistic?

1391
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: And is she microdosing? We don't know.

1392
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: Is she microdosing? We don't know?

1393
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: And it turns out that she's a primary school teacher

1394
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 3: and she so they make these bird masks as an

1395
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 3: attempt to you know, just do like a mock up

1396
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 3: before they do it for the class, and the kids

1397
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 3: are like so into it. And it turns out she

1398
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: has like the perfect temperament for.

1399
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: What she does. So she's not only a woman who

1400
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: is living life for herself, but she has found the

1401
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 2: perfect job for herself. Like she is really focused on

1402
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: everything in her life feels intentional to me. She at

1403
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: the beginning of the film loses her bike.

1404
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 3: She kind of goes to a bookstore and props her

1405
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 3: bike up outside on a fence and it gets stolen,

1406
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: and she tells Zoe like, all right, I'm gonna learn

1407
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 3: how to drive finally, and Zoe's like, you're not using

1408
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: my car. So she signs up for this service where

1409
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 3: she can, you know, be a student driver and be

1410
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 3: taught how to drive. And again, in the meantime, she's like,

1411
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: she's taking trampoline classes. She's talking to other teachers, and

1412
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: this one teacher tells her she's taking flamenco classes.

1413
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: So she's like, yeah, I'll do that too.

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: I love that.

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love her so much, And she

1416
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: kind of like, these are scenes that I think are

1417
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: important because she talks to she really communicates with Zoe,

1418
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: but she talks to other adults in a way that

1419
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 3: just validates and gratifies what they're saying. So if an

1420
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 3: if an adult says like, oh, yeah, like my feed herd,

1421
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm taking this file Manco class, her response would be

1422
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 3: something like, oh must be the worst. Like it's just

1423
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: not very noncommittal, and so there is something very light

1424
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 3: and kind of childlike about that that approach. But it's

1425
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: interesting to watch a character who's pointedly trying not to

1426
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: engage too much. She's not trying to reveal too much

1427
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: or rock the boat too much because she's so intent

1428
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: on just keeping things and people happy and keeping her

1429
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: relationships happy and liked. But I just also have to

1430
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: say that Flamenco Class again. Could watch an entire film

1431
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: with just the Flamenco class teacher.

1432
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: I That is one of my favorite parts of the movie.

1433
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: It made me want to take Flamenco I made me

1434
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: want to take Flamenco lessons. I was like, uh, do

1435
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: we have this in Atlantic because I would take the show.

1436
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: I would take the ship out of it.

1437
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: Oh me, you and me both, and it looked it

1438
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 3: just looked like so much fun. And the teacher was hilarious, yeah,

1439
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 3: and making fun of like, you know, the British people

1440
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: in the class, like we we have I'm from Seville,

1441
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 3: Savilla or Sevilla, which which you guys pronounces Seville, Like

1442
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: when you take our beautiful oranges and you make disgusting marmalate.

1443
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, And the teacher is so great, the

1444
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: actress that plays a teacher. But then like it is

1445
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,879
Speaker 1: that thing where you're like watching her, You're watching Poppy

1446
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: taking these dance classes, jumping on the trampoline. She does

1447
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: that whole like the trampoline. I don't know if that's

1448
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: a lesson or if that's just like some kind of

1449
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: extracurricular but you're like that is Like what I think

1450
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: is inspiring about watching like being a single person is

1451
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: that you just get to fucking pursue all these like

1452
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: weird interests that you want to do. Like you're just like, hey,

1453
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: I want to take flamenco. Hey I want to jump

1454
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: on a trampoline. Hey I want to do this. And

1455
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: I like I love that part of her character that

1456
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: she's open to new experiences.

1457
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and that she's open to it exactly. It's very refreshing.

1458
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 3: And she hurts her back doing trampoline class and kind

1459
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 3: of she has to go to a chiropractor and she

1460
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: just laughs through the whole appointment. I don't know.

1461
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: There's just something also.

1462
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: Very much like like when you're only beholden to yourself,

1463
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 3: like you're allowed to kind of find joy in different

1464
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 3: weird places.

1465
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1466
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: She's just a very refreshing character. And so she decides

1467
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: to take these driving lessons and she ends up taking

1468
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: driving lessons from this guy named Scott played by Eddie

1469
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: and he is such a good actor because holy fuck,

1470
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 3: this dude was like in Cell Prototype one oh one oh.

1471
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, oh.

1472
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: He is so rigid when you first meet this carric

1473
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: Like the juxtaposition of the two of them is interesting

1474
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 3: because he is like cross armed, angry, scowling, and she's

1475
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: just like, hey, yeah, cool, I'll learn how to drive whatever.

1476
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 3: He's instantly pissed off at her because she's wearing high

1477
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 3: heeled boots and he does not think that you can

1478
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 3: drive in high heeled boots, and she's like, people have

1479
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: been driving in heels four years, I'll be fine. But

1480
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 3: he really is kind of physically seems to be repelled

1481
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 3: by her because she's not as angry as he is.

1482
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 3: And he's also super fucking racist, and he's just like

1483
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: he's the kind of guy like when they're driving at

1484
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 3: one point, these two boys go by, these two black

1485
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: boys go by on bikes, and he says, lock your doors,

1486
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: Like he's that kind of fucking guy.

1487
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: Dude. This his character had a completely new meaning for

1488
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: me in like our modern era. Like I know this

1489
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: movie didn't come out too far in the past, like

1490
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: it's what two thousand and eight, but I was like,

1491
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: he's the prototype for like that scary internet guy, conspiracy theorist, racist,

1492
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: like in cell anger management problems. I'm like, yikes, Like wow,

1493
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: we have seen a lot of this guy now since

1494
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: this movie came out.

1495
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like it is fucking terrifying and he's awful

1496
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: and he's just like a man splaining asshole and I'll

1497
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 3: tell you that, like he's a bad driving instructor. Like

1498
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 3: he shouts at her and he keeps screaming and raha,

1499
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: Like he gives her this uh mnemonic to remember how

1500
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 3: to look at her mirrors and it's like he's just terrifying.

1501
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: He is terrifying.

1502
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 3: And in the midst of all this you have Poppy,

1503
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 3: and Poppy is like, you know, she goes out for

1504
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: drinks with her friends from school, Tash, who's played by

1505
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: Sarah Niles, who's fantastic actress you will absolutely recognize, and

1506
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm really happy single.

1507
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,719
Speaker 2: And what I and what I like about it is.

1508
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: That, you know, when she goes out with Tash, when

1509
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: she goes out with her other friends from school, they

1510
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 3: don't push her on it.

1511
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: They're just like, that's cool, that's great.

1512
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 3: It's not like, well, let me set you up or

1513
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 3: let me do this, like they believe her. And that's

1514
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 3: something else I don't see in narratives about single women, especially,

1515
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 3: is that they don't believe you could be happy single.

1516
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: So the fact that her friends are just like that's great,

1517
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: Like that's it seems like you're really enjoying your life.

1518
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: That's great.

1519
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I love that too. It's it's

1520
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: one of the few movies where you have single women

1521
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: who are girlfriends that aren't obsessing over dating. You know,

1522
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: like in every scene is them talking about like how

1523
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: they cakeet boy I mean, they certainly do make comments

1524
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: about how men ain't shit, which you know, is like

1525
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: a fun they're funny moments, but it is the thing

1526
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: where you're like, not every conversation is about men, like

1527
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: they're they're right, they're coexisting together, especially like her and

1528
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,560
Speaker 1: Zoe's relationship, Like I love that was like one of

1529
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: the best friendships that I've seen in a long time,

1530
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: just two of them together and they're as roommates and

1531
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: they you know, they just have kind of a very

1532
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: like effervescent but also just like very important friendship and

1533
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: it's not like like what guy ditched us today? Or

1534
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: what guy are we gonna go hang out with tonight?

1535
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 3: It was Yes, it's not fraud at all. And to

1536
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: the point what I really like, and I think this

1537
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 3: is very much a Mike Lee trait. And the reason

1538
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: why the movie is really good at this is that

1539
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 3: you can tell that Poppy confides in Zoe, but you

1540
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 3: don't see those scenes. So she'll be getting ready for

1541
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 3: her next driver's appointment or driving appointment, and Zoe will

1542
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 3: say something like I don't know, man, are you sure

1543
01:23:59,280 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: you want to go out.

1544
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: With this guy again?

1545
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 3: And like in this car, so you know, she's told

1546
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 3: her what he's like, and you know she's confided in her.

1547
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: But we don't have to see that big sappy scene

1548
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 3: of like, you know, Zoe trying to talk her out

1549
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: of something or not, you know, not letting her, trying

1550
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 3: to rain her in in any way.

1551
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: It's just it's very refreshing.

1552
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a mic Lely touch. I feel like

1553
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: he does that a lot in his films. He creates

1554
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: like these very cozy friendships. I don't know if you

1555
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: ever saw Career Girls, but that that movie kind of

1556
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: reminds me of of this movie a little bit. But

1557
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: it's he has that knack for that kind of naturalism

1558
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: between you know, on screen friendships. It's great.

1559
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wonderful.

1560
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 3: And what we also see as the movie progresses is

1561
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: that Poppy gets herself because of her like inherent optimism,

1562
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 3: she gets herself into some pretty scary situations. So there's

1563
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: this one scene that is really tense where she kind

1564
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 3: of hears this chanting and follows while she's walking through

1565
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 3: this very industrialized part of this you know, this city,

1566
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 3: and it's very vacant and there's nothing, not a lot

1567
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: of stuff around, and it turns out there's the man

1568
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 3: that is chanting, appears to have a mental illness, and she's,

1569
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, she's asking him if he's warm enough, and

1570
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 3: she's sitting down and you know, she's chatting with him,

1571
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 3: and it seems like she has no real street smarts.

1572
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: But then at one point he leaves to pee and

1573
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 3: she kind of looks around and asks herself, like what

1574
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 3: am I doing? So it's just very bizarre to me that,

1575
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: like she does have self awareness, but she fights against

1576
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: the negative. Like That's where I really started to see

1577
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 3: that this character is one that is actively pursuing happiness.

1578
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: She pushes against the negative even when she's in a

1579
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: dangerous situation. And nothing happens in that scene, but it

1580
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 3: is a very tense scene because you're not sure what

1581
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: could happen, and you're not sure if she knows how

1582
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 3: to defend herself or if she's even prepared to do it.

1583
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that was the moment where I'm like, is

1584
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: she naive? Like I don't know if she just feels like, oh,

1585
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: I can just literally talk to anybody and do anything.

1586
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you're right, I think it's more intentional.

1587
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that she knows that it's dangerous, but she's

1588
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to push past it just to be a.

1589
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: Good person exactly. Yeah, Like she feels like a real

1590
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: duty to being a good person.

1591
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 3: It's it's just it's wild. And the other thing that

1592
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 3: we see about her as the movie progresses is that

1593
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: she's actually a really good teacher. So there's this kid

1594
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: that's been bullying another other kids in the class, and

1595
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 3: she sits down with him and she's like, you know,

1596
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 3: we're friends, you can tell me things. And what comes

1597
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 3: out of that is that she ends up calling in

1598
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 3: a social worker and another teacher friend of hers, and

1599
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: they sit down with this kid and discover that he's

1600
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: being abused at home, like his mom's boyfriend is hitting him.

1601
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 3: And you know, she keyed in on that, not as

1602
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 3: like this kid is evil, you know, stop hitting other

1603
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 3: kids in class. She really saw something was wrong and

1604
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 3: didn't condemn him before she tried to help him. And

1605
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 3: so she's really good at her job because of her

1606
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: empathy and because of her attachment to like wanting to

1607
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: see the good in people. And this, as it turns out,

1608
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 3: the social workers kind of you know, gives her his

1609
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: number and they end up going out and it ends

1610
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 3: up like, you know, they're kind of perfect for each other. Yeah,

1611
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 3: like they're kind of great. But and it's at the

1612
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 3: same time you can also see that that being around

1613
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: Scott and taking these driving lessons is starting to affect

1614
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: her like she really can't when she is with him

1615
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 3: in this car. It affects her negatively to have to

1616
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: be around his energy and to be confronted so forcefully

1617
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 3: with this part of the world that she doesn't want

1618
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 3: to think about. So he kind of brings back this

1619
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 3: naivete in her, but also does it in such a

1620
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 3: scary way that you're again just kind of like, are

1621
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: you being willfully obtuse here or are you actively trying

1622
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 3: to like change him?

1623
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't think you could.

1624
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 3: I think you know, you can't change people, So what

1625
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 3: is going on here? Like her continuance with these lessons

1626
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 3: is confounding because this is absolutely the kind of guy

1627
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 3: where you'd be like, I am never calling you again

1628
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: after the first lesson.

1629
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's a moment where he talks about

1630
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: how he like he perceives her to be this like

1631
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: terrible driver and he's got such a short fuse that

1632
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: like literally everything pisses him off about her, so he

1633
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: starts freaking out about like how he doesn't want to

1634
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: give her lessons anymore at a certain point, but then

1635
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: he kind of reverses it, and you know, right after

1636
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: he says it, says, I've actually never given up on

1637
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: a student or whatever, right, and I've been like, in

1638
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a moment, she is probably also that too. She doesn't

1639
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: want to give up on anyone either necessarily. But then

1640
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: I think she figures out at some point she probably

1641
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: has to, yeah, And you know, so I think it

1642
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: just comes from this instinct to want to just hang

1643
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: in there and see the best in people. But then

1644
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: there is a moment where I think she finally figures

1645
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: out like maybe you can't. Maybe this is a lost

1646
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 1: cause and you just got to get out, you know.

1647
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And it comes after a couple of pretty

1648
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 3: scary scenes one well, one scary scene and one interesting scene,

1649
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: like she goes she has two sisters and one is Susie, who's.

1650
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: There with her partying, hanging out in London doing her thing.

1651
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,440
Speaker 3: Then they go see their sister, Helen, who's younger than Poppy,

1652
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 3: and Helen's pregnant and Helen seems to like she has

1653
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: a house in the suburbs and the husband and the

1654
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 3: baby on the way, and she seems more serious, but

1655
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: she also kind of feels like intent on making Poppy

1656
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,879
Speaker 3: feel bad about her life yep, and is not happy

1657
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: and kind of loses her shit when Poppy tells her

1658
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 3: that she likes her life just fine, and Helen just

1659
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 3: can't believe her, and she's like, you know, why are

1660
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 3: you making me feel like I made bad choices just

1661
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: because you didn't make these choices. And it's like nobody

1662
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 3: said that you're projecting completely.

1663
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh completely, And I'm sorry, but like, I have experienced

1664
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: conversation like this a couple times in my life where

1665
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, I've been in the position where somebody who

1666
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: was married and has kids was projecting a lot of

1667
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: their own shit onto me, where they were mad at

1668
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: me for being not like them basically, and because being

1669
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: like them corroborates their choices obviously, And when you know

1670
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: whomever it is, like, if you're in that situation, if

1671
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: this character is in that situation, and that they attempt

1672
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: to say, well, actually, I'm totally fine. That's like the

1673
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 1: worst thing. That's like the thing that they don't want

1674
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to hear. They're like, oh my god, like I need

1675
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: to humiliate this person for not being like me and

1676
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: doing the whole like baby marriage suburbs thing, and it

1677
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: kind of backfired on her, so she just gets fucking pissed,

1678
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 1: like she just flips out on Poppy and the girls.

1679
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: And that moment was like, Wow, that's another moment that

1680
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really remember from the first time I saw it.

1681
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, this HiT's

1682
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 1: even harder now.

1683
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 2: It hits hard.

1684
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: It hits hard, and it's also and it's family too,

1685
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: So it's really strange because it's like the little sister

1686
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 3: who wants her big sister to be proud of her,

1687
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 3: but also is being kind of a bitch about like, hey,

1688
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 3: I've surpassed you in life. Isn't that weird? And you're like,

1689
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: it's not, because her life is fine. But the real

1690
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 3: terrifying scene comes after the date that Poppy has with

1691
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 3: this social worker and then she has to go to

1692
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: her driving lesson. As it turns out, long story short,

1693
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 3: Poppy is in front of the building kissing this guy

1694
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 3: goodbye when Scott drives up, and at one point before

1695
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 3: they when they got back from her sister's house. They

1696
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 3: saw Scott on their street, like walking down the street

1697
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: and he just starts running when he sees them. So

1698
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 3: he's been like in her neighborhood even when they didn't

1699
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: have an appointment. So you're getting the feeling that he's

1700
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: into her and he sees her kiss this guy. And

1701
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 3: I do not want to ruin the end of this movie,

1702
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 3: but to say all hell breaks loose is an understatement.

1703
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: But where the movie goes is exactly what you were

1704
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 3: talking about before, which is it goes to this place

1705
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 3: where Poppy has to realize you cannot save everyone. But

1706
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: what I love about this movie is something that happens

1707
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 3: right near the end, and again this is like a

1708
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 3: Mike Lee specialty where you see her sitting down after

1709
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 3: this one horrible thing happens, and you're kind of watching

1710
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 3: her actively go from sad and confused and angry back

1711
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 3: into the place where she's herself, like you can see

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01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 3: her and I think this is probably why she was

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01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: nominated for a lot of awards, because acting is pretty

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01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 3: incredible in this movie, where you can see it's not

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01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 3: just a facade, it's not just someone who's naive it's

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01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 3: not someone who's childish. This is an adult making a

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01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 3: decision to create the kind of world she wants to

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01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 3: live in.

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01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 2: And it is beautiful. It's a beautiful moment.

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01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: And I just I love this movie because it is

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01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 3: it really explains the emotional life of a happy single

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01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 3: person in a way that feels right to me.

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, totally agree. I loved this movie all over again,

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01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: and so much more of it revealed to me this time.

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01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I think just because I when I saw it, when

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01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I came out, I just was in a different place,

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01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: in a different headspace. But like, yeah, so much of

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01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: these characters just really popped now and it's so good.

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01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: It's such a good movie. I mean, it's one of

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01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: those movies where you look at it kind of like

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01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: you look at it and go, well, not a lot

1732
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: of things happen in the movie, but so much gets

1733
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: communicated this way, you know what I mean. It's like

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01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: almost a character study and you know, in a film.

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01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 1: And I just I love that. It made me want

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01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: to go back and watch all the Mike Lee movies

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01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: over again. Yeah. I was obsessed with Meantime. Do you

1738
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: remember Meantime with Little tim Roth? I was obsessed with

1739
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 1: that movie when I was in high school and I

1740
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta watch meantime, and so I the

1741
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Mike Lee films are just so so good to me.

1742
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: They're a part of my youth and my growing up,

1743
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: and this was one of the films that, again, like

1744
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: I had seen like a lot of his eighties movies

1745
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: and really loved them, and then I saw this like

1746
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: later period movie and was like, oh my god, he

1747
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: still got it. I love it. It's so good.

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01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful. I'm so glad that you liked it.

1749
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I just really, I just I do

1750
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: love this movie and I hadn't seen it in a

1751
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 3: long time.

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01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it's perfect for the theme. I mean,

1753
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, like when thinking about the kind of

1754
01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: movies that we would gravitate towards about uh, single women,

1755
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, we had like a sweet, sweet story and

1756
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tense one. But you know what, like, ultimately,

1757
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I feel like they both sort of end in the

1758
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: same way, Like they're like I feel like nobody is sad.

1759
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody is authentically themselves at the end

1760
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 1: of the day, and that's good positive messaging for single people. Like,

1761
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: come on where it's not a sad moment, it's it's

1762
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:28,480
Speaker 1: it could be great.

1763
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,799
Speaker 2: It ends with women who are happy on their own terms.

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01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed. I am glad that you walked with me

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01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: on this theme this week. I know I'd been like

1766
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: wanting to do it and felt passionate about it and

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01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, it's fun, have fun, stay single.

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01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them what the movies are

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01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 2: for next week? Oh?

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01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: Sure, I'll do that. Yeah. So the movies for next

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01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: week's episode are each to Mama Tambien from two thousand

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01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: and one and two Lane Black Up from nineteen seventy one.

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01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Yay, gives that theme.

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01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Girls that theme. So if you want to email us,

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01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:10,160
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1777
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:19,280
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01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,679
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01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,840
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01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,080
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01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: always a pleasure.

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01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 3: Always until next time, see you said bye. This has

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01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:53,479
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01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,240
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01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,560
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