1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm excited about today 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: because we have a border expert with us, which is 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: important considering we just heard from Joe Biden that he 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: is going to have an executive order on the border, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: which we don't believe is going to do what it 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: needs to do. And that's why I wanted to have 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: kind of a discussion about that, because obviously the border 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: is a big deal in this election cycle. We know 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: it was a big deal in twenty sixteen. In twenty twenty, 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: I think people kind of said, Okay, the border issue 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: is getting solved. The President has done a lot with 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: the wall, We've gotten the numbers down. We weren't as concerned. 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody realized what the Bided administration was 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: going to do, the fact that they would kind of 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: call people from across the globe and say, hey, the 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: border is open. We're a welcoming community. Come to the 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: United States, and we just got flooded. And I think 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: the scary thing is that it wasn't just people seeking asylum. 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: We have been flooded by people from all over the globe. 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: We know there are people who are on the terror 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: watch list who have come across, and this administration just 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: has not taken this seriously. But in addition to that, 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: they've come out and they've said, well, there was this 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: measure that went through the Senate that was the right measure, 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: and the Republicans want to put this through and they 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: blame President Trump. But ultimately, when we break down that measure, 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: we're still letting five thousand people across the border every day. 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we're looking at two million people coming across 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: the border every day. And they said that was the 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: best plan they had seen. However, now it seems like 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: this executive order is saying, well, actually, instead of five 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: thousand every day, we're going to stop it at two 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty or two thousand, five hundred every day. 34 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: So wait a minute, now they can cut it in half. 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: We really want to kind of understand what the Biden 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: administration is doing, so we said we've got to bring 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: in an expert. We have Brandon Judge with or jud 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: with us today. He is the former National Border Patrol 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Council President and a twenty five year veteran border patrol agent. 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: He actually just retired from his role several weeks ago. 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Judd thank you so much for joining us. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: Very good to be with you. 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely so. Can you break down for us 44 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden is doing and how that will not 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: be effective? Essentially? 46 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything that he's doing in smoking mirrors. I go 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: back to twenty seventeen when he took office and we 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: all thought that there was going to be a ceiling. 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: We thought that once we hit a certain level that 50 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: he would do something to stop the illegal immigration has 51 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: taken place, and he didn't, and it exploded out of control. 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: We knew that it was going to be very, very bad. 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: We just didn't realize it was going to get as 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: bad as what it's going to do. And so when 55 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: you look at this executive order, the real reason that 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: this isn't going to work is he doesn't have the 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: cooperation of other countries. Everything that he's trying to do 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: is completely dependent upon Mexico taking people back. It's dependent 59 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: upon Venezuela, Columbia, China, all of these other countries that 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: refuse to take the their citizens back when they cross 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: our borders illegally. So everything that he's doing is completely 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: depending upon other governments, and he doesn't have those cooperations. 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: When you look at the number the twenty five hundred people. 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Twenty five hundred people, I can personally tell you through 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: all of my experience that if he were to actually 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: deport people, they would stop coming. But because he's not 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: going to deport people, they are going to continue to come. 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: They're going to continue to flood our resources. And once 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: they do that, without the cooperation of those other governments, 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to send them back. Therefore, 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: you're going to have to release them into the United States. 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: So everything that he's doing, it's purely smoking mirrors. He's 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: trying to send out a narrative knowing that the mainstream 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: media is going to cover for him, knowing that they're 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: going to say, oh, look what he's doing. He's putting 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: forth executive orders, he's being tough on the border, when 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: in reality, the numbers are going to bear out that 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: nothing is going to be done. The cartels are going 79 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: to continue to generate eight billions of dollars of revenue, 80 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to be harmed, people are going 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: to continue to be released into the United States, and 82 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: the drugs are going to continue to flow into our country, 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: because of these drugs. 85 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: So why refuse to deport people? And I asked this 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: because this hasn't always been a Democrat stance. This is 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: like a new thing. Obama was considered the deporter in 88 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: chief all of a sudden. It's been like I think 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: people mistakenly believe that Democrats have always felt that the 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: border should be open, but it wasn't the case. I 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: mean even even Joe Biden, prior Joe Biden was not 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: like the Senator Joe Biden did not feel like the 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: border should be open. Why are they doing this? 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: So it's it's a complete and toll different demographics that 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: we're dealing with under Biden and what we dealt with 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: under Obama. When when we were dealing with illegal immigration 97 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: under under President Obama, the vast majority of people were 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: coming from Mexico, and so it was just a very 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: quick situation, take somebody into custody, send them right back 100 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: to Mexico. I you know, this is something that I 101 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: had done thousands of times before. And when we apprehended 102 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: somebody from Mexico, the entire process until we send them 103 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: back to Mexico was probably a couple hours at best. 104 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: You know, there were times, depending upon where you were 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: at where you're talking, less than an hour that we 106 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: would take somebody into custy and they were back in Mexico. 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: That's not the situation anymore. We're dealing with people from 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: around the entire globe. And that's where I go back 109 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: to the the you know, the stance that if he 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: does not have cooperations of the governments, you can't do anything. 111 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: So Mexico does not have to take anybody back that 112 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: is not citizens of their own countries. They can refuse that. 113 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: So when we take them back to a port of entry, 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: we take somebody in custy safe they're from China, and 115 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: we take them back and we try to send them 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: back to Mexico. Mexico says, no, we're not taking them back. 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: You keep them, and then we're stuck with those individuals. 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: And then if China won't take them back, then we 119 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: have to release them into the United States pending in 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: agreement with China to get these individuals back. So we're 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: dealing with a completely and totally different demographic. And what's 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: scary about that is is that's the evolution of the cartels. 123 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: They have recognized that they don't have to just bring 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: Mexican nationals across our borders anymore. These are now transnational 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: criminal organizations that have realized that, hey, we've got a 126 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: lot of business that is outside of just Mexico Central America. 127 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: We can go around the globe and we can start 128 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: flooding US resources with these individuals. And that's how they're 129 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: generating billions of dollars. So until Biden has the cooperation 130 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: of all of these different governments, which he does not have, 131 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: we're going to be stuck with all of these people. 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: And until he's willing to do what President Trump did 133 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: and put pressure on Mexico to be a true border 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: security partner, we're going to continue to see these numbers explode. 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to see all of these people 136 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: star boards illegally, and again it's not just Mexican nationals 137 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: like what we mainly dealt with under Obama. 138 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: So you're saying to us right now that even if 139 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: he said I'm going to stop the flow, these people 140 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: who are being stopped at the border, essentially they've crossed 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: the line. Now they are our responsibility and we can't 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: get them out of here because their home countries are going, yeah, 143 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: we're done, we don't want them, and you know, we'd 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: have to get them back there legally, so we're trapped 145 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: with them. 146 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: As stupid as that sounds, that's exactly the situation. So 147 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: what we could do, Tutor is is we can find 148 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: other countries that will take them back. So let's say 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: that a Chinese national crosses our border illegally and the 150 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: State Department comes up with an agreement with another country 151 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: that says that they'll take those individuals back. Yes, we 152 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: can then send them back. That's why it's so important 153 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: that we have the cooperation of Mexico because that's the 154 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: simplest solution, is to send the people right back to 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Mexico where they came from. But Mexico does not have 156 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: to take them back. And that was the brilliance of 157 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: President Trump's policies when you look at what he was 158 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: able to get Mexico to do, that's something that they 159 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: had never agreed to before. Biden can do the same thing, 160 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: but he refuses to use the political force that he has, 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: the muscle that he has to force Mexico into agreements. 162 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: President Trump was willing to do that. That's why remain 163 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: in Mexico. Work remain in Mexico does not work unless 164 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: you have the cooperation of the Mexican government. 165 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: And to get the cooperation of the Mexican government, you're 166 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: having to use leverage. And I think that's what Joe 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Biden has been proving that he's unwilling to do with 168 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: other countries is to I mean, look at Iran for example. 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: He wouldn't even use the leverage he has there to 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: keep the rest of the world safe. And when people 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: say to me, well, the United States, you know, people 172 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: on Trump's side want America first. They don't want the 173 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: United States to involved in anything. No, that's not the case. 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: And you're telling us right now that that wasn't how 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: this worked. It wasn't like I'm going to turn a 176 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: blind eye to this and just let it go on 177 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: because I'm focused on America. It was used the leverage 178 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: that America has to say to these other countries, if 179 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you do not do this, there are other ways that 180 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you can be punished by by the United States. And 181 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: it is severe punishment, yes, And that's. 182 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: Why I was a very early support of Trump, going 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: all the way back to his original campaign. What we 184 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: wanted was we wanted a non politician in office. We 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: felt that if we had a businessman in the office, 186 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: they would look at other ways outside of the box, 187 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: thinking to go after other countries and to secure our interests. 188 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he did. What was brilliant about 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: remaining in Mexico, and the reason why it worked was 190 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: he threatened tariffs that were greater than the amount of 191 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: money that the cartels were able to generate. So it 192 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: all comes down to the economy in the United States, 193 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: it comes down to the economy Mexico. Comes down to 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 2: the economy. When you start harming trade, when you start 195 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: harming traffic, you can then bring them to the table 196 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: to get them to agree to things that they otherwise 197 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't have agreed to. And so when you look at 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: the billions of dollars that the cartels are able to 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: bring in, and then when you look at the trade 200 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: that the legitimate trade that Mexico has with the United States, 201 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: if you threaten tariffs that are greater than the amount 202 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: of money that the cartels are bringing in, that's when 203 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: you're going to get the cooperation of the Mexican government. 204 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he did and that's why remain in. 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Mexico was able to go into place with Biden because 206 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: he is so weak on the international front, like what 207 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: you said with Iran, and it doesn't it's not just Iran, 208 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: it's everywhere. And because he's so weak on the international front, 209 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: Mexico was able to say, yeah, no, we're not going 210 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: to enter into any agreements. We're not going to cooperate. 211 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: We know that billions of dollars are coming in from 212 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: illicit trafficking, the smuggling of humans, the smuggling of drugs, 213 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: on the sex trafficking that takes place. Billions of dollars 214 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: are coming into our economy. You're not going to threaten 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: me with tariff. No, I'm not going to agree with you. 216 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do what is necessary to slow 217 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: this down because this is beneficial to my economy. And 218 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: that's the way Mexico is thinking. 219 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 220 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Let's talk about the kids for 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: a minute, because when Trump was in office, boy, we 222 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: saw the Time magazine cover. We saw the stories of 223 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: kids in cages, people being separated from their parents, all 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: this bologney. But Joe Biden has lost eighty thousand kids. 225 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: What happens to those kids? 226 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: You know, I want to even go back to Obama. 227 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: I didn't interview with CNN. Believe it or not. They 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: did have me on. They don't have me off very 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: often because I can, I can beat their posts. But 230 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: I was honest, And Jay Johnson was on the program 231 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: right before me. Jay Johnson, he was the former secretary 232 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: of the Department of Homeland Security under Obama, and he 233 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: even admitted that there was family separation that was taking 234 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: place under the Obama administration. There's always going to be 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: family separation. You can't stop that. And let's just look 236 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: here in the United States. If a parent with a 237 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: child goes into Target and they still hundreds of dollars 238 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: of merchandise, well, when the police respond, they're going to 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: separate that that parent from that child. That's what happens 240 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: when laws are broken. So even j Johnson admitted that 241 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: family separation took place under the Obama administration. Then on 242 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: top of that, all you have to do is go 243 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: back and look at when were these facilities built, When 244 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: were these quote unquote pages is built. They were all 245 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 2: constructed under Obama. Everything one of them. And so when 246 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: Trump came into office, of course you didn't have the 247 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: mainstream media covering it when when Obama was doing it. 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: But when Trump came into office, then all of a sudden, 249 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: you have AOC going down to the border and she's 250 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: given these fake crying tears of what's going on. But 251 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: she didn't say a word when when Obama was doing 252 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: the exact same things that were happening. And then now 253 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: you're talking about exactly Joe Biden. Joe Biden then loses 254 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: eighty thousand children that we can't find, we don't know 255 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: where they are. Most likely that there's a very high 256 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: likelihood they are now put into the sex trafficking industry. 257 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: Yet you don't hear anything about that from the mainstream media. 258 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: And that's what's so frustrating to border patrol agents. 259 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry when you talk about I think that that's 260 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: such a hard word for people to understand comprehend because 261 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, our kids, we don't think of them as 262 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: being taken into this, and it's like this dark area. 263 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: The people just don't even like to talk about it, right, 264 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: we don't even like to say the words sex trafficking. 265 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: But we're talking about little kids. I mean, we're talking 266 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: about kids from toddlers onto teenagers that are being put 267 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: into this What is that? What is it? Because I 268 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: want people to fully understand what that means. 269 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: So sex trafficking, there's a huge difference between smuggling and trafficking. 270 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: What smuggling is is when you bring somebody into the 271 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: United States, and once you get them in the United States, 272 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: the transaction ends. Trafficking means you bring them into the 273 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: United States and they stay in servitude. The transaction does 274 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: not end. The transaction continues to go on. And what 275 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: happens is that these children are being forced into doing 276 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: things that they never thought they were going to have 277 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: to do. That means that they're going to again. I 278 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: don't want to get into the graphic, you know things 279 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: of what goes on in that industry. It's horrific, but yes, 280 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: these children are being forced to be sex blade That 281 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: is ultimately what it comes down to. And if they're 282 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: not going into the sex industry, then they're going into 283 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: the sweatshops. Believe it or not. Right here in the 284 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: United States, we have a form of indentured servitude that 285 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: is going on right now. That's the sex trafficking. That's 286 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: the sweatshops that exist, and it's happening under because this 287 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: administration's policies allow it to have. 288 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: So when people talk about these eighty thousand kids, which 289 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: I say, we are some of the only people talking 290 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: about these eighty thousand children, it shocks me, honestly when 291 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: I think about the amount of time the mainstream media 292 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: spent on kids that have been separated from their families, which, 293 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: if we are being honest, that was to prevent this 294 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: from happening. It was to prevent them from being taken 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: by the cartels and put into indentured servitude. And when 296 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: you talk about that again, I mean, I don't even 297 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: mind if you get graphic, because I want people to 298 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: know what is happening to these children and the fact 299 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: that these jerks in office are turning a blind eye 300 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: to the fact that we have kids that are being 301 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: horrifically abused, used, abused, and then thrown away when they die, 302 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: because if we're being honest, these children are dying in 303 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: these situations as well. I just don't think that people 304 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: believe that this happens in the United States, and it is, 305 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: and it's ugly. 306 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's because everything is behind the scenes. They don't 307 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: see it. It doesn't affect them. You know, you look 308 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: at the fentanyl and I'll take it right back to 309 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: what we're you know, sex trafficking. But when you look 310 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: at the fentanyl, I personally do not have any friends 311 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: that have died of fentanyl poisoning. I see the numbers, 312 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: I know the numbers, but it hasn't affected me directly. 313 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: But once it does, that's when people get up in arms. 314 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: And so if you don't see it happening, you can 315 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: pretend like everything is perfectly fine. Nothing's going on. This 316 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: is something that you know, tutor, she's blowing it out 317 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: of proportion. I'm not seeing it. You're not seeing it 318 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: because it's all behind the scenes, just like you don't 319 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: see drug transactions take place every day. We don't see 320 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: all of the bad things are going on. But what 321 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: happens is is it expands out and it starts to 322 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: affect our communities. Yes, it's very slow, but it's going 323 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: to happen. And that's why we want to get this 324 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: under control. Not only do we want to protect these children. 325 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: And again that's what's so frustrating to every single border 326 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: patrol agent. We all know that this is policy driven. 327 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: We all know that this can be stopped if we 328 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: had the proper policy, Yet they won't give it to 329 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: us because it's all political. It's all about open the borders, 330 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: because that's what Joe Biden's political base wants. They want 331 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: it an open border. And so when you look at that, 332 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: it upsets us because we know that the rule of 333 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: law will protect these little children from what is taking place. 334 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: Yet they won't do it because the political litmus says 335 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: this is what you need to advocate for, and it 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: ultimately hurts everybody. It's also is going to hurt our communities. 337 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, because we don't see it, we don't see 338 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: it right in front of us. It becomes I don't know, 339 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: maybe it becomes a theoretical issue, but. 340 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: We don't see it because the mainstream media is refusing 341 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: to report the truth. And that's where I say, this 342 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: is the state run media that they reported lies. I mean, 343 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: if you think about the contrast when Trump was in office, 344 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: the lies, Oh, they're being separated from their families, Their 345 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: families are crying, these mothers are dying without their children. 346 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Those were lies because these kids were being separated to 347 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: keep them safe to keep them from this. Now, you 348 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: don't hear anything about this nothing. They do not report 349 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: on the eighty thousand. They don't talk about the fact 350 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: that we have a sex trafficking problem. They don't talk 351 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: about the fact that these kids are servants to the 352 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: sex world. And that blows my mind because I think 353 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: that the heartstrings of America are pulled by kids. And 354 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: that is why people were upset about shutting down the border, 355 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: because they were under this misconception that this was a 356 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: way to save children from countries that were abusing and 357 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: beating them. And yet they are being brought in by 358 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: a criminal element who then owns them. And that's what 359 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: I've tried to explain to people when you say that 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: there are certain people that are just crossing the border 361 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: and let go, and then there are certain people that 362 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: are owned by the cartels the rest of their lives. 363 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: These poor children, they are slaves and they are treated 364 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: horribly and this is happening in the United States and 365 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: no one is reporting on it. 366 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: It's criminal because if they did report on it, you 367 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: know that the American public would then be outraged and 368 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: they would demand that changes would take place. 369 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: And if those changes take place, then you don't have 370 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: the open borders, and that's what they're advocating for. We 371 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: know that we are the most compassionate country in the world. 372 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: All you have to do is look at how many 373 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: people we take into our country legally every year. All 374 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: you have to do is look at how much aid 375 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: we provide around the world every year. We are the 376 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: most compassionate country in the world. We should be the 377 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: most compassionate country in the world. But it is not 378 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: compassion when you allow the rule of law to give 379 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: the cartels free reign to keep these children in What 380 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: you just said slavery, I say indention serve too, because 381 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: when we say slavery, then of course you get attacked 382 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: by the left media saying, oh, you know, you're hearkening 383 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: back to you know, one of the darkest times in 384 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: our period. But we have to have that honest conversation. 385 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't care if people agree with me or they 386 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: disagree with me. What I want is I want that 387 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: honest conversation. I want the American people to make an 388 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: informed decision off of all the facts. The mainstream media 389 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: doesn't do that. They don't allow us to have that 390 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: honest conversation. So that everybody can develop their own opinions 391 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: on all of the facts. They only want to give 392 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: them what they want them to hear, and therefore that's 393 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: what becomes reality. And that's what is so amazing to 394 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: me and so frustrating. That's why we have the free press, 395 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: is because we're supposed to be the guardians against American 396 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: tyranny or the government. Yet we don't have that anymore. 397 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: Refusing to compare it to slavery makes me so mad 398 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: because this is the under the theory that if you 399 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: can control the past in people's minds, then you can 400 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: change what the future should be, and you can alter 401 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: the fact that people will protect against it. And if 402 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: you are being honest, which obviously you are, but if 403 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: the public is being honest, if the media is being honest, 404 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: they would come out and they would say, we saw 405 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: the horrific things that happened in this country during slavery. 406 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: These children are being put into that exact same position. 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Not only are they being forced to work, but they 408 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: are also being raped on a daily basis. And the 409 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: fact that we can't talk about history accurately because there's 410 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: people that get butt hurt about it makes me crazy. 411 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm like you, this is how it repeats itself. And 412 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: just what you just said about the country being the 413 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: most compassionate country in the world, that's who we are, 414 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: that is who that's why we That's why these people 415 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: who manipulate history can manipulate the hearts and minds of 416 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Americans because they feel so much compassion for what happened 417 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: to people in the past. And the truth is they 418 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: don't want it to ever happen again, But masking it 419 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: is what causes it to happen again. That's the sad situation. 420 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: It's the sad cycle that we go through. 421 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: It is it is, and we see it every day 422 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: when we're not willing to have that honest conversation. Give 423 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: the American people all of the facts, let them develop 424 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: their opinions based upon all the facts. That's what the 425 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: honest media deales. We don't. We have very few outlets 426 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: anymore that are honest. 427 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: When you talk to other border agents, do they think 428 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: that there is hope under a form or another Trump administration? 429 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: What do they what do they feel on the ground 430 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: from other people? 431 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, when we look at this, we we you know, 432 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: we're the we're the most politicized law enforcement agency in 433 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: the entire nation. Uh, it's going to be that way 434 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: simply because the the open border base understand that this 435 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: is all about power. You know. I go back to 436 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: an interview that I gave on Fox News when I 437 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: was asked and and they asked me my opinion, why 438 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: is this administration allowing this to happen? And I said, 439 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: it's all about the demographics of the electorates. I got attacked. 440 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: All you have to do is go to USA today 441 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: and say and they'll say, oh, he's repeating a white 442 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: nationalist trow. He's talking about the great replacement theory. Never 443 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: I had never heard about the great replacement theory. But 444 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 2: that that didn't matter. They were going to attack. But 445 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: then all you have to do is look at what Washington, 446 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: d C. Did. They pass the law that allows non citizens. 447 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter if you're here legally, you can 448 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: be here illegally. Non citizens can vote in local elections 449 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. What I said was proven true. 450 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 2: Then all you have to do is look at New York. 451 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: New York. New York also tried to pass those laws. 452 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, their courts shut it down, but it did 453 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: happen in Washington, d C. So that's exactly what's happening. 454 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, when we talk about law enforcement, it doesn't 455 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: matter whether it's Border tral agents. They can be dps, 456 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: they can be county sheriffs, it can be municipal police. 457 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: Every single one of us know that whether or not 458 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: we're going to be allowed to do our jobs is 459 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: going to be dependent upon who's in office. If you 460 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 2: have a good mayor municipal police are going to be 461 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: able to do their jobs, are going to be able 462 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: to keep the public safe. If we have a good president, 463 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: then federal officers, like border patrol agents, we're going to 464 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: be allowed to do our jobs and we're going to 465 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: be able to keep the public face. But when an 466 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: issue gets politicized, when law enforcement, and it is it's 467 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: not just the Border patrol, it's law enforcement overall. When 468 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: it gets politicized, that's when we can't do our jobs, 469 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: and we can't do our jobs, then the American people 470 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: aren't safe. We see a huge sky we see a 471 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: crime skyrocket, and that's what we're experiencing on the border today. 472 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, But first I want to take a moment 473 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: to tell you more about my partners at IFCJ. Since 474 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: the terror attacks on October seventh, anti Semitism has been 475 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: on the rise, not just in Israel but here at home, 476 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: in the US and around the world. That's why I've 477 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews today 478 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: and I'm coming to you, my audience, to ask that 479 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: you stand with us a IFCJ, to raise your voice, 480 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: just as Oscar Schindler and Corey Tenbaum did. This pledge 481 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: is asking Christians to stand with their Jewish brothers and sisters, 482 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: to never be silent, to show the Jewish people they 483 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: are not alone. They have God and Christians on their side. 484 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: For the month of June, we are asking Christians to 485 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: sign this pledge, which will be delivered to the President 486 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: of Israel, to show that Christians in America are not 487 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: only standing in solidarity, but they are speaking up to 488 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a stand today with the International Fellowship of 489 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Christians and Jews to let Jewish people know they are 490 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: not alone. To sign the pledge, go to support IFCJ 491 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: dot org. That's one word. It's support IFCJ dot org 492 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: to take a stand today. We stand with law enforcement here. 493 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: We've always we talk about it on a regular basis, 494 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: and I just wonder how this laxadaisical attitude toward crime 495 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: has affected the country. Just before I walked into to 496 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: do this podcast, I was reading our local Informed page. 497 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: In one of the stores there was had put to 498 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: post on their saying, we are begging you to talk 499 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: to your teenagers about not shoplifting. We have had and 500 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: this is for our Michigan. You know, the season has 501 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: just started up where people are going into the downtown 502 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: and shopping because people kind of hibernate in the winter, right, 503 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: so it's just gotten warm. I mean, these stores have 504 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: probably had a good population coming to them for two 505 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe three weeks now, and she's already posting we are 506 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: begging you to talk to your kids about this. What 507 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: is happening in society with this idea that crime is okay, 508 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: that border patrol agents are bad, that the police are 509 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: the problem, that we should be able to have everything 510 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: for free. I think this is infiltrating young people beyond 511 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: their parents' conversations and conversations that maybe as parents we 512 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: didn't know we had to sit down and have before 513 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: because we had these you just kind of felt like, Okay, well, 514 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, stealing is wrong is how does this change 515 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: how we talk to our kids? How does this change 516 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: how we talk to our communities about making sure that 517 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: we are all playing our role and playing it the 518 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: right way by making sure we go in and just 519 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: simply pay for the things that we want. I mean, 520 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying that, but I feel like 521 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: that's where we are, you know. 522 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: And part of that is a lot of people think 523 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: that shoplifting is a victimless crime. They think, okay, well, 524 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: the stores might get harmed a little bit, but they 525 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: just make it up in their profits. It's not a 526 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: victimless crime because it all gets passed on to you 527 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: and I when shoplifting takes place, prices get raised. When 528 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: pricing because the companies they have to they have to 529 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: recoup those losses that they're taking. So it's not a 530 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: victimless crime. And so that's one of the things that's 531 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: really really frustrating to every single law enforcement officer out there. 532 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: But Tutor, it strictly comes down to consequences. If we 533 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: do not have consequences for violating the laws, then the 534 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: laws are going to be violated. All you have to 535 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: do is look at the speed limits go out on 536 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: the interstate. And if people know that the post speed 537 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: lim is eighty miles per hour, but you're not going 538 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: to get a ticket until you're going eighty seven, then 539 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: people are going to go eighty six miles per hour. 540 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: That's what happens. And so if these if these youths 541 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: understand that, hey, I can go into a store and 542 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: I can shoplift, and and if I get caught, the 543 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: only thing that's going to be is slap on the wrist. 544 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to give the merchandise back, but 545 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be arrested. There's not gonna be 546 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: a consequence. Then you're going to have the shoplifting taking place. 547 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: So you can have as many conversations as you want 548 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: with your children. If your children know that they're going 549 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: to be able to get something for free, you know, 550 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: the good children are going to follow the laws. But 551 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: those ones that want those things for free, they're going 552 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: to take advantage of the situation. And that's again, it 553 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: always comes down to consequence. The problem, Tutor is is 554 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: when you have a bad law enforcement officer, it gets 555 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: blown out of proportion. When you have one bad cop, 556 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: do one bad thing, then everybody gets painted into that 557 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: same corner as it's all law enforcement. That is not true. 558 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: Take care of the bad I was the union president. 559 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: I protected Bordertrol agents, but I was the first one 560 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: to stand up and say there has to be consequences. 561 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: If a Borderatrol agent does something bad, that bordertral agent 562 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 2: must be held accountable. Well, you have to look at 563 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: the public the same way. If the public does something 564 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: that is wrong, if they violate the law, there has 565 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: to be consequences. You must enforce those consequences. If you 566 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: do that, crime will go down. We don't have that 567 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: system anymore. 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: No, we don't. And I think that's a huge problem 569 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: that we have across the country, and it's why we 570 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: talk regularly about the fact that we need to get 571 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: more and more people aware of when we have elections 572 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: for law enforcement, and when I say that, I mean 573 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: for these prosecutors, for these das, for these attorney attorneys 574 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: general who are radical and letting people off because the 575 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: fact that we are going after our law enforcement and 576 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: not the perpetrators of the crime. This is the problem 577 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: that we have in the United States, and really we 578 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: saw it most highlighted at the border. What eight years 579 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: ago now, we saw this happening and people were like, 580 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we should be allowing these people. And 581 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: it became like this mantra of forget about law and order, 582 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: We're going to become this nation of trusting one another. 583 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Well you see how that goes. I mean, you look 584 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: at these big cities. You look at what happens when 585 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: you take people from the border and send them to 586 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: New York City and suddenly there's a massive amount of 587 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: crime there and they're blaming the cops. I mean, it 588 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: just blows my mind. But that's why we have these conversations. 589 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: That's why we have people like you on the show, 590 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: so that people can hear the truth, what's happening behind 591 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: the scenes and see this. And I think the most 592 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: important thing for folks to remember when you say, you know, 593 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: sometimes we have a bad law enforcement officer, Yeah, I 594 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: think we also have to remember that these are people 595 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: make mistakes. Everybody. We have no idea those of us 596 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: who are not in law enforcement have no idea what 597 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: it's like to go out there every day, to be 598 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: under that kind of pressure every single day, and to say, gosh, 599 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: this guy he did the wrong thing, and now he 600 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: was on the one side of the law. Now he 601 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: has to be inside of a prison. It drives me crazy. 602 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I can't stand seeing that. 603 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate that we look at criminals and we 604 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: romanticize the criminal element, and we criticize and we villify 605 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: the actual good people, the people that are trying to 606 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: keep us safe. You can't do that anymore. That's why 607 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: being a police officer, you know, imagine going out and 608 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: being cussed at, spit at, and you can't do anything. 609 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: You know, my brother is a police officer and he 610 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: gets told all the time, I'm going to kill your children, 611 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to kill your family, and you can't do 612 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: anything about it. Yet it's a very, very difficult job. 613 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: It's a thankless job. And on top of that, we 614 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: get vilified by the main stream media while the criminals 615 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: are being romanticized. 616 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate everything that you've done for this country. 617 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of our law enforcement officers, and I 618 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: appreciate having you on today. Brandon Judd, thank you so much. 619 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: It was good to be with you. 620 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, and thank you all for joining us 621 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others. 622 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com or head over to 623 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, 624 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: and have a blessed day.