WEBVTT - Greg Proops of “The Smartest Man In The World” 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.920 Hello, friends, and welcome to another edition of Access Podcast, 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.560 the podcast about podcasts. I'm Maddie Stout, and I am 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.360 the smartest man that you know. Producers e correct. I'm 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.400 gonna say yes for the sake of my job, thank you. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.919 But we both know that the smartest man in the 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.160 world is Greg Proops, who you have a personal connection 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.720 with because of the show Whose Line Is It Anyway? Yeah. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.200 So when I moved to America with my family from 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.680 Sri Lanka, Whose Line Is Anyway? Was one of the 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.960 first shows that we were introduced to, and my brother 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.240 and I would watch it non stop like there was 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.920 no getting us away from the TV. And Greg Proofs, 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.960 of course, the star of that show and also the 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.199 star of this week's edition of Access Podcast. Let's check 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.479 out a little bit of his show. Let's see here. 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.879 According to recent estimates, women may go under twenty of 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.240 Congress and less than of all state legislatures, only six 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.960 governors or women. But they're of the population. So when 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.920 we go on and on and on, here and here, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.080 he is the smartest man in the world, the smartest 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.680 guy I've ever had the pleasure to work with. Greg Proops. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.640 High Greg, Hello, Maddie, you're very flattering. H Well, you 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.760 know it's true. You are very smart, marvelous, there's no question. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.520 You know. Here was the thing when I did my 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.200 old radio show, we would have comedians come in and 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.640 just let them talk and and not really you know, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.080 do stick or anything. And there were always a couple 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.000 that I thought, when I moved into podcasting, that's somebody 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.640 that should be podcasting, and you or we're always like 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.440 on the top of that list. For me, I'm so 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.440 glad to see that you've taken the podcasting as much 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.280 as you have. It's really changed everything, Maddie. I think 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.840 it's made me a more relevant comedian. And when I 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.960 did the first one. After I did it, my wife 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.119 Jennifer said to me, this is what you should be doing. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.960 And I was like, huh, because I always thought stand 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.240 up was the most direct way to communicate with the audience. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.800 But I think podcasting is you really reach people on 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.600 a honest, visceral level and they seem to hear what 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.720 you're saying. You know. Yeah, I mean I overuse this phrase, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.360 but you know, podcast create empathy and I think that 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:09.600 somebody like you that's important and what you do it 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.920 is it's easy to be misunderstood as a comedian because 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.480 people our reactionary and they react to a phrase or 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.320 a word or a thought or something. With podcasting, people 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.800 really hunker down and listen and you can really communicate 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.240 with them. The highest phrase I think, Maddie is like 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.200 people write me and say I used to think about 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:29.799 things one way, and I listen to your show and 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.919 I've changed my thinking on that, And you think, well, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.240 that's amazing. Because stand up doesn't change minds. Comedy is 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.400 not really a force for It can be a voice, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.760 but I don't think it's you know, that giant catalyst 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:50.000 for social change. I'm laughing now, but you know there's 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:55.040 very few George Carlin's or Bill Hicks or Lily Tomlins. Well, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.200 I think that. Um again, you know, with with comedy, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.440 you you hit a city in a city a city, 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.720 and with a podcast it hits so many people. Um, 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.280 have you found a new audience do you think of 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.320 podcasting that you had with comedy? I do. I think 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.080 the people that wouldn't walk in the door of a 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.160 comedy club because they thought it was sexist and racist, Um, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.799 will listen. I get a lot of young people who 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.799 are too young to come to a comedy club, which 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:23.200 is really amazing to communicate with teenagers. And uh, you 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.040 know people who can't drink yet they love it as 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:35.280 entertainment too. And also I've been to um Holland, Sweden, Norway, Scotland, England, France, Australian, 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:41.080 New Zealand, Finland, you know what I mean. So you 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.600 you can draw an audience all over the world through 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.720 the power of podcasting because it's on people's phone or 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.840 on their computer. You don't have to be on a 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.360 TV show anymore. TV is not necessary to have a presence, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.119 you know. I think that when somebody's doing a good podcast, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.560 a good any good radio or audio. In my in 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.160 my mind, you know what's good when people think they 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.720 could do it too. Well, let's say I could you 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.480 know I could do that too. And the same thing 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.400 with comedy. You know, everybody thinks that they can get 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.440 up on stage. But I think, you know, for you, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.160 I would think that your background and especially with improv, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.640 has really prepared you to do a podcast where you 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.359 are kind of you know, at your will to speak 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.000 about things. But also no, all right, you know I 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:30.120 need to stay on some kind of target it's true. Um. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.560 I love the thrill of walking backwards and free falling 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.000 and improvising and with when you when you podcast, I 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.440 can start at one place and work my way around 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.400 in a huge circle, you know, and still try to 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.200 get towards the point of the thing. Um. Sometimes I don't. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.960 Sometimes it takes me a whole hour to get off 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:53.000 one topic. But people will stay with you for that 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.960 in a podcast where they wouldn't perhaps as much in 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.039 a stand up act. That kind of want you to 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.560 hit a joke every fifteen seconds, um, And I think 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.320 that's what makes it's so exciting for me. Um. I 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:11.480 talk about politics, a lot of feminism, history, uh, raised, religion, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:17.279 music books are literature blah blah blah, and there's a 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.200 more open playing field for that people. I know people 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:26.279 are listening and responding to that because they bring poetry 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:28.400 books to the show. You know, they bring dope and 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.840 dka to you. Of course, my my habits are forefront, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.040 but they bring poetry books and artwork they've done, and 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.280 feminist literature and records on Vinyl Maddie, which is like, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.920 you know, close to my heart. So you know you're 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.359 getting through to people, and that's what's happening. And I 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.280 don't ask for these things. It all happened organically, which 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:51.600 makes it a thousand times more gratifying to me than 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.280 being in a corporate meeting where people talk about what 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.679 they think people like and what they think people want 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.520 and they really don't. They've just taken a survey. One 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.280 of the things I always I have always enjoyed about you, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.560 and always enjoyed when you would come into the studio 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.800 on the shows that I worked on, is is is 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.520 the topics that you talk about and and you know, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.960 I like it when people can be funny and smart 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.200 at the same time. And I'll be honest with you, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.760 the fact that your podcast is doing so well makes 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.480 me feel like maybe society isn't as fucked as I 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.760 think it is. I like to think so. I mean, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.440 I wake up with it, you know, like everyone else. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.960 There's the thirty seconds in the morning before you remember 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.200 what's going on and who the who's in power, and 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.640 then the depression, you know, climbs over you and abuse 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:41.000 your soul with a blackness that can be inescapable horror 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.000 of the volcanic racism. And you know, but anyway, yes, 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.480 I think you're right, Um, The truth is people are 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.440 interested in my One of my guys I work with 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.919 Matt bell Nap is on Never Not Finding with Jimmy Pardo, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.600 and he's been at the very beginning of podcasting and 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.600 he asked me to do this with his partner Ryan mcmaniman. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.400 And at the very beginning of this, he said to 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.080 me something that no TV person would ever say to you. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:14.560 He said, people are attracted to content. Yeah, and that's 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.800 what makes me. And then I say to Jennifer, well, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.240 I'm talking about jazz or I'm talking about this or 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.720 that book, and surely everybody knows this, and she said 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.720 to me, they don't. They don't know it. You need 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.640 to introduce it to them. You're curating what you talk about. 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.480 You're curating literature for them or art, because everybody doesn't 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.240 have the same experience and everybody doesn't have the same 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.720 prime of reference. And it's not a matter of ignorance 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.560 for stupidity, it's just, you know how it is. Some 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.840 people had a good English teacher or good parents, and 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.560 some people didn't, and so they have to kind of 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.920 I feel like I'm teaching a one oh one class. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.080 You know, I've spent the last six years teaching at 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.440 a university. And and it's one thing I have learned 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.360 is it's it's people aren't bad because they're ignorant. And 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.200 that word gets used wrong. You know, Yeah, it's not 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.640 a bad thing to be. I'm ignorant. Every one's ignorant 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.960 on something, UM. And the key is to instead of 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.160 pointing your finger and wagging it at them for being ignorant, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.080 it's to say, well, let me tell you about that. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.440 And I think that's something you do very very well, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.520 and I'm it. And again, it makes me so happy 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.840 that there's actually in the audience is engaged in that, 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.160 because every day I feel a little bit more like 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.400 the movie Idiocracy. UM. And and I and I worry 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.360 that we are we do revel in our ignorance, and 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.440 we revel in UM. We revel in in our snarky 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.800 putdowns that aren't well thought out. And I like it 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.200 when you do very thought thought, well thought out snarky 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.440 put downs. Um. What do you teach, Maddie, I actually 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.080 teach podcasting, UH and broadcasting. I started the first podcast 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.280 program UH as far as I know, in the United 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.559 States at the Candemy of Art University. So that's fantastic. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.319 It really is an effective tool, you know. And just 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.719 like music, there's a there's podcasting, a million types of 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:57.840 ways to podcasters, a million different podcasts. Um. My only 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:02.680 complain about comedy podcasting is that it's inconceivably male for 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.360 the first ten years. And now you're starting to see um, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.800 you know, uh, black women and and all kinds of 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.599 women getting into it, the guys we fucked and the 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.200 chegop queens, and but it took a while for them 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.040 to get traction, you know, because everything is a white 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.840 guy thing with with comedy, and then it kind of 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.560 gets spread around eventually. Um, but I think it's really 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:30.240 important to teach podcasting because, like you said, everyone thinks 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.880 they can do uh, you know, a podcast or everyone 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:41.200 they can do comedy and uh and and sorry, in essence, 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:47.400 they kind of can. Yeah, if it's if it's And 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.320 here's the thing I al would say to my students 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.600 is even if you get done my class, and by 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.400 the way, my mid term is a power point presentation 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.800 on finding an audience and and like you know, really 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.360 thinking about what you're doing instead of just going out 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.120 and doing it. But that when you're done with my class. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.440 Hopefully you've learned to communicate effectively so that no matter 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.360 what you do in life, you can go into a room. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.400 And again I had to overuse the word, but you 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.760 have that feeling of empathy with whoever you're talking to, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.559 whether it's business or you know, anything else that you do. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.959 And I think that when you do a podcast, you 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.120 you get to flex that muscle a lot. Yeah, I 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.480 think you're right. Um, empathy isn't so important. Um, Connecting 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.560 with the audience is the only thing I ever wanted 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:35.160 because I'm shallow and I don't have an inner life, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.040 and so to be able to to be able to 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.160 reach people. And I think, like you're saying, you're in 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.640 real life. We're on the phone making caustic remarks about 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:51.480 other people's politics or their habits or whatever, and it's 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.840 a chance to not it's a chance to articulate that 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.480 more and not just take pot shots at people. You 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.280 have to develop something when you're doing a podcast has 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.560 to be I mean, you know that there's you've heard 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.240 ones where people just blather, and then you've heard ones 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.319 where people make a very salient point and or it's 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.040 about history or music, or you know they've taken a 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.080 topic and that's their topic, or sex and all of 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.440 all of which need to be discussed. The problem isn't that, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.319 like you said, people are ignorant and they're stupid and 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.360 they need to be castigated for being morons. The problem 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:31.880 is we don't have dialogue about anything. Do you find 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.640 it hard? And I think that Jennifer fills this role 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.400 for you and she as I think you know anybody. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.640 I love you in your marriage and it reminds me 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.040 so much of my wife and I were. You know, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.040 that's my best buddy. That's that's my sounding board. Do 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.560 you feel like when you're doing the podcast from the 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.440 Fortress of Propitude that that that's you have a sounding 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.880 board to, you know, instead of having an audience in 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:57.760 front of you. Yeah? I do. Um. You know, she's 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.840 been um part of this thing since the beginning and 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.400 my partner in it, and a lot of the ways 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.680 the topics have been driven is because of her. A 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.239 lot of the news stories I read and the information 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.240 I have is because of her. So I've given her 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:15.640 credit since the beginning. And uh now we're starting to 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.640 do ones at home together where she talks more. She's 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.320 always wanted to be sort of in the background, and 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.240 that was her choice, you know, And I didn't press 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.840 her to push forward. But lately she's wanted to say more, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.920 and so I'm happy with that evolution too. And of 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:32.040 course people right me and say could you put could 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.719 you turn her mic up? Yeah, you've got her on 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.840 the side there in your sideline here. And now I 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.480 feel awful because I'm always talking about people's sidelining women, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.800 and and the last thing we did, I don't think 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.080 she was on Mike ut. But yeah, I think you 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.760 have to have a sounding board, um. But more importantly 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.400 than the sounding board for her, for me, she's sort 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.400 of the guiding heart and soul of this whole thing, 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.840 one of the things that you know you do well. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.600 And I feel like I tell people all the time. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.600 In a lot of ways, we should be very grateful 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.760 for Donald Trump, because it's the first time people actually 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.680 pay attention to what's happening and are interested in c 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.240 span and who's the secretary of this and who's the 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.520 secretary of that. So there is a lot of a 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.920 lot more dialogue about what's going on with our government. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.560 But I feel like it's also created a place where 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.559 you can see where a lot of people aren't maybe 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.480 the best people to be talking about politics. And I 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.520 think of some comedians and some of the podcasts, and 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.520 I think in general social media where it's been maybe 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:45.559 you know, not working out UM for them. How you know, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.280 A long way to ask a question is you know, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.440 how do you feel about this, this this current culture 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.480 of of Donald Trump and how it affects what you do. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.040 I think it's galvanized people in a positive way. And 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.920 I think most importantly it's forced complacent UM white people 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:08.880 into some sort of you know, getting woke as they say, UM. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.800 The violence that he brings in his rhetoric, he's basically 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:18.160 a one man recruiting squad for white supremacists. Every single 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.040 UM in saying shooting that's taken place, the shooters have 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.840 all said that they listened to him, that they appreciated him, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.440 that it was his message that they were reacting to 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:33.120 and relating with. UM. And I think it's a real 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.560 nice wake up call for people. If I wanted Hillary 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.800 more than I've wanted anything in my life, but I 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.200 do realize if she had been elected, we'd be locked 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.880 in this thing where the Republican Congress would be fighting 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:48.000 her tooth and nail right now, she'd probably be indicted. Yeah, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.480 and there might be impeachment proceedings going on a year 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.200 and a half. And because that's how psycho they are 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.520 about it. Whereas with this we're fighting against basically fascism 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.080 every day. But now I know the names of every 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.800 single council person in my neighborhood. UM, I'm writing politicians 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:07.120 all the time. I'm completely galvanized. UM. I've joined fifteen 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.000 different groups. And I think a lot of people feel 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.920 that way. And to see the crushing amount of women 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.240 and young people that are registered to vote and running 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.920 for office is what I always focus on. Um. A 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.400 lot of liberal people will be like, oh, it's worse 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.120 than it ever was, and the whole world's coming to it. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:27.680 And it's like, that's true. But there's gonna be so 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.440 many women running for office in the next two years, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.480 and so many people of color. We're talking about a 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.800 black woman governor of Georgia in the in the in 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.560 the near future, which has never ever happened in the 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.280 history of the United States. There's never been a black 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.560 woman governor. And that's progress. Might always say to people, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.920 I'm old and when I was little Nixon was president. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.560 And when Nick was president, there was no question that 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.200 a woman or a black person was ever going to 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.640 be president, much less attorney general, much less Secretary of State. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.920 So all those things have happened in my life. And 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.600 I'm not that fucking old. But you know what I mean, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.160 things move slowly, incremental change changes. That is the course 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.520 of American politics right now. We're in a terrible time 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.520 where white supremacists and the Russians have an awful hold 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.000 on kind of the people's imagination in the media. But 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.880 I think that the vast majority of people are are 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.320 not bad people. I mean, you know, and and can 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.400 be motivated to get off their ass every once in 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.760 a while, uh and do something. And I think you're 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.360 seeing that. Um. I think of people I didn't know 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.880 the name of a few years ago, like Sarah Kenzie 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.480 or or Joy Read or um you know, that are 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.280 in the media now that are literally fighting for change 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.680 every day. And I think that's the part that gives 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.440 me hope. So that's my take on it. I mean, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.360 he is a person, is an inkoit um demanded mess. 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:57.200 He doesn't have an agenda he I mean a constructed agenda. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:04.720 He simply pushes buttons a racism, homophobia, transphobia, whatever. There's 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:08.040 no coherency to anything Orange forty five is doing because 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.879 he's not intelligent or well read. It was just revealed 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.159 yesterday that mc masters, who was the former National Security Advisor, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.840 would be in the middle of giving him a briefing 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.400 and realized he wasn't observing anything he said. So we're 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.760 not talking about a normal presidency here. We're talking about 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.320 the idiocracy presidency. Like you say, accepted in the movie 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.320 Terry Crews was more awesome. Oh, he was much more awesome. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.440 I would probably consider voter for Terry Crews, you know. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.640 And I had to have to, you know, when when 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.919 everybody says this is the worst time, I I you know, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.040 you study history, and I'm I'm a bit of a 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.120 history buff. I feel like, you know, when a look 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.720 at the sixties. Uh, there was a lot of a 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.240 lot of strife then, and I think out of both 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.239 situations was what you're saying is coming true, which is 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:55.040 it wakes people up and and hopefully now this next younger, smarter, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.520 more you know generation will will start paying attention and 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:03.040 take part as it did with the sixties. Absolutely, look 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.480 look at um uh what the Parkland Uh teenagers of 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:13.280 jen That march was gigantic and the Republicans can ignore 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:14.960 it all they want and the n r A can 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.520 react to it all they want. But the tide turned, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.080 the tide turned. It was it was a moment and 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.280 um with Hillary running, the tide turned there when you 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.560 saw a woman get nominated and get the most votes 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.800 that you don't go back on that. And women are 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.160 I think people are really motivated um in a way 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.200 they weren't before because we have that extra added incentive 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:43.120 of we're fighting for our very survival. But the sixties 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.680 were this bad and the seventies were this bad, and 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:51.800 we've had racist, white supremacist, narcissistic, sociopathic liars as presidents, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.880 just never all at once. Well. I always tell people, Hey, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.760 you think he's bad, look up Andrew Johnson. Man there 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:02.240 you go there, that's that's a bad president. My wife 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:03.919 the other day, that's how boring I am. I'm like, 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.000 if you want a white supremacist president who presided over 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.320 a mass and had a corrupt administration, it was Andrew Johnson. 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.520 Is cake taking Lee shitty? He might be the worst 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.480 president extra Trump. I think, I, oh, I I he's 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.920 always my he's always my go to for worst president. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.919 I can't. Oh my god, he's just horrible. And so 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.720 people think we haven't had this kind of insane white 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.520 supremacy before, but we have many many times. Woodrow Wilson 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.320 was a screaming white supremacist and he was also an intellectual, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.520 which is like, you know, quite a quite a gyration 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:45.120 there to be able to do both things. Um, you know, uh, 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.159 I think a lot of that this has to do, 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.679 you know, and social media has everything to do with 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.800 why we think everything is the worst now because it's 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.719 it's so in our faces. Um, And you know, how 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.240 have you been able to use you know, social media, 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.480 you know that kind of not only just to to 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.960 say what you think, but also is a is it 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.040 is there a former therapy at all for you? Or 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.399 or do you find it to be as kind of 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.720 does it get you worked up as it does other folks? 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.480 It gets me worked up and then I have to 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.320 take a break from it. And it's when I find 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.520 myself reacting to every single goddamn tweet and feeling like 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.280 I have to chime in, is when I think, you know, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.160 it's okay to think for a while about what's going 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.680 on and not just immediately react. I never used profanity 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.199 on my Twitter, and the one or two times I 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.280 accused someone of being a Nazi openly, I got very 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.479 big trouble and trolled to death, and I thought, okay, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.320 so don't do that. Um, I can't believe the people 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:51.240 who right fuck you you yea there because it's there forever, yeah, 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.280 and someone that's going to go back and find that 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.840 you called someone a piece of shit, And so I 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.960 try to keep the discourse high. UM. I decided early 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.479 on that in my acting on the podcast, I'll use 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.760 profanity freely. But on Twitter and social media, I feel 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.639 like it doesn't really do a lot for your rep um, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.359 and you can't call everyone that you think is a 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.200 moron a moron. Um. You have to let morons be 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.800 more on. Sometimes it loses its luster if you overuse it, 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.639 I think. So I try to praise people, and the 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.199 only good thing about social media is like, for instance, um, 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.000 LORI kill Martin who's a friend of mine, and Alison 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.480 Rosen is a friend of mine. They both have books 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.120 out now, and so you're able to help people by 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:40.320 pumping their projects, you know. And I think that's that's 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.000 a really good thing about social media. When my book 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.840 came out, I asked all my little comedian friends, will 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:50.320 you retweet this? And to a person they did, And 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.960 I think that's the kind of the the fun of 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.520 social media is that it's a it's a it's a club, 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.200 it's a fraternity, if you will, where we can support 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.520 each other. I can't wait to see the support you 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.400 give my new pot of this new podcast of mine. 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.800 I'm so excited, Maddie. You tell me when and I will, 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.280 as they say, retweet it and I'll send it out 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.399 to I think that's the other groovy thing is like 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.760 I love doing podcasts and I don't care if they're 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.080 new or big established ones. I love doing new ones too, 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.920 because that's how they get off the ground. Baby Ria 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:28.600 Butcher just started one called three Strikes, three Swings, and 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.680 You're Out, a baseball one. I'm gonna do one named 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:36.320 podcast carpool in May that a guy hooked me up with, UM, 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.959 you asked me to do years and I thought, yes, UM, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.600 because I know you and we've always had fun chatting. Uh. 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:44.160 I think that's how they get off the ground and 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:51.120 how you get any traction. You know, Well, we started 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:52.960 Stitcher and that's you know, I left. That's why I 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:54.880 left my morning show was to go over and help 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.000 start Stitcher. Was you know, the one guy I always 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.240 remember who would do anything and want any podcast was 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.760 Mark Marin. Mark. Mark said no to nobody when he 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.520 started that podcast. We did. I did a little podcast 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.840 out of a closet at Stitcher because you know, startup, 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.520 we had no mudget everything. And Mark came and did 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.160 the podcast in my closet, and and and I think 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.240 that that's and that's it's and it's one of the 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:22.159 things that make podcasting special is that it's not a 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.959 it's not cutthroat. It's not like you know, you know, 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.199 every morning radio guy thinks he's the coolest thing in 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.320 the world and every other morning radio guy sucks. You 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:32.280 don't get that attitude with podcasters. It's hey, how can 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.800 I help you with your podcast? Because it's just helping me. 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:39.120 At the same time, I agree, I've done obscure ones 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:45.520 in Sacrimano, Colorado, Zameto, Toronto. Yeah, I can't remember the 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.400 guy's name. He did it in his house. We all 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:49.720 went over, we smoked a joint and he had a dog. 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.879 He took pictures of us, and uh, I mean, I 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.800 don't know if anyone heard it. I think some people 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.080 hear it. Um Any any time I go to where 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.760 cats will ask me to do their podcast, I I 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.840 generally if I have a moment, I'll do it. My 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.240 new account in Philly was a big music fan. I 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.760 went over to his house and in his dining room 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.560 table we did it. And you know that that's the 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.280 other thing that's beautiful about it. This is a movable feast. 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.680 I have a couple of different Zoom recorders, but I've 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.440 got the little handheld Zoom one now and it's changed 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.639 my life, man, because uh, Jennifer and I went to 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.560 Mississippi last year with the Lady parts Justice Liz Winstead, 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.399 who is a great comedian who started daily show, and 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.280 she has this you know, abortion rights group that helps 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.280 out and goes to clinics all over the country. And 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.640 they don't just go and like do a comedy show 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.280 and self intuligent. They'll paint the place, they'll bring office furniture, 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.840 whatever it's required they ask. Then they do a comedy show. 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.159 They also do escorting and then at the end of 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.600 the comedy show. There's like an open dialogue with doctors 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.159 and volunteers. It's very cool. So I went and the 0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:01.480 one in Mississippi is full of anti choice, crazy white 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:05.040 men with bibles and pictures of dead babies outside screaming 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.639 at a stream of poor black women who all of 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.960 whom have four or five kids and are getting an 0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.919 abortion because they can't afford on another child. And I 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:15.800 had the recorder in my hand and they started yelling 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.119 at me the minute I got there, and then I 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.320 was able to interview them. They were glad to do 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:23.200 an interview because they recognized me from whose line. And 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.320 I kept it really low key, you know. I let 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.919 them talk and I spoke like this in a cold, 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.400 clear tone to them, and they explained their position, which 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.680 was kind of crazy, and I think that did more 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.960 than if I'd argued with them, were ranted and raved 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.960 about it. I let them talk, and everybody wrote and 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.280 was like, I can't believe this with these what these 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.720 white men believe, and it's like, well, that's what's going on. 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.520 They also didn't know that white men gather outside of 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.879 clinics all over the country and scream at black people 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.240 for trying to avail themselves of their constitutional rights, whereas 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.800 no one stands outside gunshops and yells at white guys day. 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:05.679 And so the effectiveness of having a little handheld device 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.000 Jesus Christ. When I was a little my first tape 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:13.160 recorder had two giant reels and it was weighed like pounds, 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.680 you know. And now that we can carry around these 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.919 things that are small as a phone, and you know, 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:23.840 it just makes broadcasting a whole nother thing. No more 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.960 physical tape. Baby, you don't have to deal with that 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.000 ship anymore. But yeah, we still say tape. Oh yeah, 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.879 and we still say we say recording, we say telephone. 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.440 We I think, I always say to Jennifer, everything is 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:39.480 really old fashioned, even though it's super new. Uh, people 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.960 still say tape things. I love that my wife makes 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.840 fun of me because I'll forget I'm from West Virginia 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.280 and then I'll say an expression and like I'll call 0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.880 it the commode where I'll call her I'll call her purse, 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.919 her pocketbook, and she's like, she's like, what are you some? 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.399 Are you an eighty year old person here with pocketbook 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.600 and commode. I'm like, now, that's just how we talked 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.360 there all right, do you say crick and ruff as well? Oh, 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.520 crick roof and holler. Yeah, we're going to West Virginia 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.320 this year for the Lady Parks Justice League thing. That's 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.600 the date we're gonna do. We're gonna go to Charleston. Oh, 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.359 good luck in Charleston, and then I think we're gonna 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.080 interview the teachers because that's great just so happens in 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.359 the clinic and Charleston doesn't have a bunch of crazy 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:25.080 people standing outside. Um they they they've gotten off the 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:26.560 hook on that. So I thought we'd go and talk 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.040 to the teachers. Or it was Jennifer's ideal. Let's be honest, 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.320 because the teachers have started a tidal wave in West 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.080 Virginia and God blessed them. You know, it's spread to 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:38.720 Kansas and Oklahoma and everywhere. You know, there's uh my, 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.879 my one of my best dearest friends is a lawyer 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.120 uh in Charleston, African American lawyer, and he you know, he, 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.159 you know, he is always kind of pressuring me. He's like, 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:51.280 we need you, people like you to come back because 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.440 you know, we need to get voices back in the state. 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.919 Who have you know, have experience and and think a 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.480 little bit. And you know, when I saw that teacher strike, 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.040 I was just warmed my heart to see the people 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.359 that came out to support them. Uh, in the in 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.560 the state, because you know, my my state worries me 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.560 a lot. And I'm glad that you're going there. I 0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.280 think that you'll you'll have a wonderful time. I hope 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.200 you can get to the Eastern Panhandle, that's where I'm from, 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.199 which is actually the beautiful part of the state. So 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.600 I've been a couple of times in West Virginia and 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.399 plive years ago with whose Line at the University in Charleston, 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.040 and they were unbelievably avid. And they also we did 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.560 a Q and A after or I guess Ryan and 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.040 Chip did. I'm I didn't take it much part of it, 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.800 but they they the students really wanted to talk, uh, 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.320 and it was it was an opportunity for them to 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:40.400 talk to people who make a living performing. And yeah, 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.320 the people ask me, why do you go everywhere and 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:46.400 do stuff? And it's like I feel like you're you know, 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.240 we're we're troupe doors. Uh. You know, as a performer, 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.680 you gotta I don't know, Bob Dylan. You look at 0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.120 his calendar sometimes and he'll be in like Lexington, Kentucky 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.680 and Evansville, Indiana, and people will ask him why do 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.160 you go to these places? And he's like, people live there, 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.320 and I think it's good for you know, I grew 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.000 up in a really small town in West Virginia, pretty poor, 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.440 and um, I would go once this year to this, uh, 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.840 this church camp and it was the one place where 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.000 I meet people who were from different backgrounds, had you know, 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.800 come from different families, and we're smart and really were 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.680 into reading and education. And and um, Henry Lewis Gates Jr. 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.200 Is from the town that I'm from it and he 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.920 would go to the same church camp. And I've read 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.880 his book Black People, He Colored People. He talks about 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.800 that being the place where he actually got some like, 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.200 oh my gosh, there is a world outside of Kaiser, 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.160 West Virginia. And and I think that when people you know, 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.840 come into the state and do performances, you know, there's 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.520 always that kid like me who was going to see 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.280 it and go oh wow, Yeah, there's people that don't 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.040 think like everybody that I go to school with, this 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.360 is cool, Alright, I can I have there are other 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:56.040 people out there. Yes, it's and it's so important. Um, 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.920 the people who live in real America have that communication. 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:01.680 People do right in me and Goo, I live in 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.560 a terrible little town in Missouri or a little town 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.400 in Illinois, and I love listening to your show, and 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.600 you think, well, you're reaching them, and that's important, you know. 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.520 I mean, I love New York and London in San 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.680 Francisco as much as anyone else, and of course I 0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:16.080 want to play there all the time, and I do. 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.040 But cities are starting to be like places people are 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.960 leaving because they can't afford to be there anymore. You know. 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:31.720 We were just in Ohio and Indiana, and the downtowns 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.840 are getting renewed in some of these towns that are 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.760 you know, like Toledo. Um, Toledo is not. It's depressing, 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.000 but you can see that it's coming back. And people 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.640 are forced to move to places like that now because 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.840 you can't go to Portland or Denver anymore. Portland and 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:51.920 Denver priced themselves right out of the market. And there's 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.080 that there's that wild reality going on in the United 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.320 States where there's simply not enough places to live in 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.400 enough jobs for everyone to afford. You know, when we 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.480 first lived in Arantisto, Maddie, you could live there. Yeah, 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.240 Now what is it? Four thous dollars a months the 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:09.280 average rent. It's ridiculous, It's crazy. I don't know how 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:13.440 anybody lives here who's on a normal income. I honestly don't. 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.840 I mean, you have to be like Facebook rich too, 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.080 and that's just that's not riot. I mean when I yeah, so, 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:24.200 I think that the real estate developers are the most 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.160 I used to think arms dealers were the most evil 0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.320 people on earth, but I think it's real estate developers 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.960 and Luke who's president. Yeah, oh, I there's nothing more frustrating. 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.680 I mean, my wife and I were looking to buy 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.280 a house, and you can't buy one unless you have 0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.959 cash in hand. And those folks who are buying them 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.800 with cash in hand don't live here. They don't. They're 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.760 only doing it for speculation. It's it's really frustrating. And 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.400 all these damn flippers, all these flippers that damn TV 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:50.240 shows made everybody think they can go out and flip 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.360 a home now, so they come and buy them and 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:56.200 then yeah, it's terrible. Oh I know. I mean I 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.080 bought a house in l A with my wife, and 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.480 they're always asking us to sell it. But what they're 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.520 gonna do with it is tear it down and build 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.920 a McMansion. And I'm not doing that. Don't do it. 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.160 I can't add to that, you know, it's there's enough 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:14.080 of that. Um. Yeah, I have heart of any part 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.760 of any cities, the architecture, and I don't understand people 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.520 who just want to knock everything down all the time. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.880 But l A is heedless, you know, I'm a at 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.040 least it's a little bit more affordable in l A though. Yeah, 0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.480 it is, it is, It still is, and there's still 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.120 cheap apartments to rent. Cheaper When I first came to 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.560 l A, Oh my god, I think we were renting 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.040 a place for I was splitting it with Sue Murphy, 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.200 the comedian, and like there's think five dred dollars each 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:48.720 a month. Twenty years ago. Hey, I got a question 0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.560 from a listener, Larry. He's got three I'm gonna give 0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.960 you two of him. One. Do you have a photographic memory? No, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.720 I just have a good memory. Um, there's giant gaps 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.920 in my memory, and of course memories really selective. I 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.480 don't remember any of my nephews or niece's birthdays. But 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.320 I can tell you what Tai Cobb hit for every 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:13.280 season kind of thing. So that's amazing. Uh, that's you know, 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:14.760 It's like some of the sports guys that worked with 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.400 in New York that they would walk in and just 0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.560 they couldn't remember what they have lunched yesterday. But I 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.600 forget about you know, the eight six Mets will tell 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.840 you every stat everything about him. Sure. How about the 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.880 other question as is, were you Do you really drink 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:33.760 vodka when you're doing a podcast? I do. I've got 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.840 a drinking problem, and I take it on the air. 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:41.960 I necked down several glasses during a podcast I'm doing 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.800 one tomorrow night here in h Holifox is where I 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.880 am now at the Halifax Comedy Festival, and they put 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.560 me in a little bar called the Carlton and I've 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.280 done it there. I've done it here a couple of 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.040 times and really good fun. Is the end of the 0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.840 bloody continent out here. Um. But yes, I really drink. 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.760 I really drink, and people give me my call all 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.120 the time. I bet once once they know you like something, 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:10.239 that was the thing. I quit drinking h three years ago. Well, 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.200 I can always tell when somebody's really a friend of 0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:13.839 mine and when they're not by the gifts that give 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.080 me a Christmas because they'll, you know, I'll get bottles 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.040 in the mail. I'm like, yeah, we haven't talked for 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.920 a while, have we? Uh right, I can't enable that ship. 0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.960 It's like, well it's you know. Then I have gifts 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.560 for other folks. So it doesn't work out very bad, 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:34.560 but it's always funny. Hey. Um. I always end with 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.600 three killer questions. Three questions if you could listen to 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.839 a podcast that had anybody living or dead on it? 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.000 Whose podcast would you listen to? Oh? Gee whiz, that's 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:48.040 a good question. Um uh golly, all right. You kind 0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.279 of stopped me because I have a thousand people that 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.040 I want to say. You can come up with a 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.279 couple of combinations if you want. This is one I 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.319 was really excited to ask you in particularly because I 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.640 figured you come up with something good. I would like 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:02.000 to hear Gentle Rivers because I wished up been adored 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.640 her as a comedian. Um living Friendly Blitz. If someone 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.720 would just interview Friendly Wits every week. Um, she's so 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.160 witty and so funny and so incisive and is so 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:18.520 liberal minded and hysterically you know, just I just adore 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:22.880 her UM comedy. She's mostly a writer, obviously, but she 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.239 does do interviews and she just nails the douvil out 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.600 of it. UM if it was old fashion, if we're 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.480 talking living or dead, ever, I would love to hear 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:37.839 Leonardo da Vinci's thoughts UM. I'd also love to hear 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.239 like some of the women of history that get skipped over, 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.800 like Ada Loveless who basically kind of invented the computer, 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.839 and all of the black women from Hidden Figures who 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.160 were the physicists who worked at NASA UM. It would 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.920 be very interesting to hear them talk about their experience 0:35:54.000 --> 0:36:00.840 with UM astronomy and and dealing with the giant paradigm 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.880 that they were forced into and how to go with it. 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:09.680 I'd love to hear Abraham Lincoln speak, um, have I 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.640 given you enough? You've given me funny? I could go 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.839 on and those are great. Louis Strong I think would 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.960 have quite a lot to say about different things. And 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.040 you know, I mean, I think there's a bunch of 0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.920 people living who don't get on podcasts, and maybe we 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:29.439 should interview them, like Dolor Suerta, who started United farm 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.719 Workers with Cesar Chavas. She's still alive and you've just 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.080 given me an idea. Here you go. That's that's my 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.439 that's the that's the that's the producer and me, Hey, 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.400 what was the right? Yeah, we mentioned you know, podcasting 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.080 is kind of the latest technology that's that's changed your 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.359 life and what you do. What's the first piece of 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.840 technology that you remember using and going this is neat, 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.080 this is going to be something, it's going to change 0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.000 my life. Well, um, like I said, when I was 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:00.879 probably six or seven, like parents, game in this tape 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:05.000 recorder and it had giant reels and you turned, uh, 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.960 this giant lever to make it go and to rewind it, 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.520 and then you had to press the button and turn 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.520 the leaver at the same time to make a record. 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.439 And it had one of those green like I don't 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.240 know what you would call it, an a solo scope, 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.880 like you know that when you spoke the levels, we're 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.560 kind of a fluctuating co sign in the that's early. 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.120 I don't know if that's digital technology. I'm sure it 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.120 was a light bulb, you know. I remember thinking that 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.600 was super bitchen and also portable phonographs when that was little, 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.439 the kind you would drag over to your friend's house 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.600 and just plug it in the wall and it just played. 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.400 That was like we thought that was the living end. 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.160 Um and transistor radios when I was really little in 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.080 the sixties, because you could listen to the ball game 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:54.160 on them with one little ear piece in your ear. Yeah, 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.000 and so you could look you could hide in bed 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.200 and listen to ball games or take it anywhere and 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.160 no one would You could sneak uh listening to games. 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.680 And also, you know, radio was way more eclectic once 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.440 upon a time, as you recall. Um and I listened 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:15.239 to a dazzling variety of weird DJs from San Francisco 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.680 alone in my room. Um, guys who played comedy. John 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:27.120 guild Land was on Casapo, guys who did comedy like um, uh, 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.800 well not I'm not old enough to really for Surewood 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.840 bid him. Oh golly, I'm blanking on his name. But 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:35.440 there was you know. Anyways, there was eclectic shows where 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.640 I remember hearing Monty Paton for the first time on 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:42.200 the radio before they on TV. Um. John Gillan played 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:45.000 them on his comedy show. Um, and I think that's 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.320 that's what we're doing now. For people. What those people 0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.200 did for us when we were a little the exposing 0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.279 you to different things that you had no idea existed. Yeah, 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.840 I mean I always tell folks with you know, when 0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:00.520 I was little, we didn't have TV, but we radio 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:05.640 and Dcor Demento. Yes, that was God. That was how 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.560 I found you know, comedy. You know that my mom 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.000 let me listen to any comedy albums. I wanted to, 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:12.920 so George Carlin and you know, when I was like 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.000 six or seven, was listening to George Carlin and those things. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:18.040 But uh yeah, Dr Demento And I remember my first 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.160 radio job on an FM station was I got to 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.120 play Doctor Demento on Sunday nights at nine o'clock. And 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:27.759 I was like, I've made it, yes, yeah right, yeah, 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.600 it's so Dr Demano. Plus he played um, you know, 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.239 records from the twenties and thirties. Oh yeah, he played 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.680 like all Bob and Ray stuff and he'd play um, 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.719 oh gosh, Spike Jones and you know all that kind 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.920 of stuff. That was you know, you know, for a 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.280 you know, nobody else was playing that. Yeah, no, he 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.160 he was the one, and it was coast to coast 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:52.080 and it was syndicated. Um. We even I remember I 0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:53.920 was in a group called fault Line and Santancisco in 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.120 the eighties and we made a Christmas rap record or 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.279 something and we sent it to him because the show 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.239 was still on. This is like eight five. We sent 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:06.640 him a vinyl single of it, and he wrote us 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.960 back and said, I'm not going to play it, but 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.719 it was more trenchant than most comedy records. And I 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.560 remember being absolutely thrilled that he called our record trenchant, 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:23.560 and uh, it was. Yeah. He's I think a great broadcaster. Yeah, 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.799 And I think a lot of people have different experiences 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:28.960 depending on what your generation is. Um. There was a 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.239 radio station in San Francisco that I made it to 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:37.520 the eighties called ks an Case and and they had 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:42.880 really eclectic Deejays who played rock and roll but also stranger, 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.680 you know, harder, deeper cuts. And I got an education 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.480 from them too, And they embraced punk when it came out, 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.200 whereas the hard rock stations were very resistant to it. 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:58.080 And then punk leads you to art and literature and style, 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.880 you know, a different direction than listening to Ted Nugent 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.600 or Montrose or something. All of a sudden, now you 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.960 have to deal with the intention behind a song, the 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.680 politics behind a song, the fashion behind a song. And 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.799 then of course, um, I listened to ks so Well 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.120 and Kate uh K d I A, which were the 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.000 black stations in the bar area, and that's where I 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:26.000 learned about Glutsy Collins and Rick James and Funkadelic and 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.960 Choca Con and you know what I mean. Like so 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.000 when I was at pizza delivery boy, I would drive 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.960 around sam Matal and smoke cools and listen to Kiss 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:40.480 so Well and they were playing everything groovy, you know. 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.160 So it was just the Bear has always been good 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.680 for that because the area is multicultural, and we never 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:49.759 even with all the problems of the Barrier House and 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.360 the racism and the lack of housing and all that jazz, 0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:57.200 the poverty, there's always been Latin people, Asian people, black people, 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.960 white people. You know what I mean. Look at my name, 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.640 it spos to it more. And then if you lived 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.919 in an all white place like say, you know Canada, Yeah, 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:08.640 r Hanada is not really all why but you know 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:10.480 what I mean, No, I bring that up when I go. 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.080 I still go hunting with my dad in Pennsylvania and 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.080 uh and I'll get in conversations with guys there and 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:17.799 just kind of just point out that, you know, hey, 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.600 your experience is not like mine where I'm the only 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.960 white family on the block. You know, it's it's a 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.160 little bet Um. All right, one more, What was the 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:33.120 last podcast that you binged? Um? That's just gonna sound terrible. 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:38.080 I don't really binge podcasts that much. I listened to 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:43.080 some sometimes. UM. I love Jacky Cations the Dork Forest 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.799 because she gets people on to talk about stuff that's 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:49.560 real meaningful to them. So it can be any old thing, um, 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.359 old time movies, baseball, whatnot. Um. I listened to mine 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.919 back um after I do it because I want to 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.839 make it the producer and me, I want to make 0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:03.759 it better and less repetitive and less as far as 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:07.319 the vodka goes. Sometimes maybe there's too much, and that's 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.719 not always a good dance you make. You want to 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:12.880 make sure you're making sense and ur ahead of the 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:17.040 audience instead of being that the drunk guy who's cornered 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:21.960 you in a kitchen. You know what, I didn't know 0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.239 what that was like until I stopped drinking, and now 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.360 I'm like, oh god, that was me. I was the 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:30.880 drunk guy, uh in the kitchen trying to tell you 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.440 why the world needs changed, right. Yeah, I just that's 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:39.719 my worst fear. My two worst fears are irrelevance and 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.200 to be the drunk guy who's corned you in the 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:45.560 kitchen and it is repeating the same story. Man, that's funny. Um, 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.839 that's great. Uh well, uh run that time. But I 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.799 really appreciate you coming on, Greg. I'm glad that we 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.120 got to cash up and and and it's been too long. 0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.719 And you're somebody I always I do. I think of 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.279 more often you would than you would probably know. Um, 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.480 that's kind. I've always been thought of you fondly. And 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:05.640 every time I go back and do um Sarah and Vinnie, 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.239 every time I go, and I was there through the 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.080 Sarah No Name years as well. Uh this, every time 0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.440 I go back and see do Sarah and Vinny, I 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:15.120 think of you because sometimes you do the show now 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.640 and the producers like looking at the computer the whole time. Yeah, well, 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.239 I know what you mean. It changes, everything changes a 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.200 little bit. And uh uh and I think that you know, 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.160 it's good to see you in this world. I'm glad 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.360 you're podcasting, and I do think it's it adds to 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.839 our culture and in a little bit, UH makes me 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.560 hopeful that things are things aren't as bad as we 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.919 as I think they are sometimes. Thanks Pal, that's really 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.839 nice of you. Do you let me know when this 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.239 is going to come out and email me and I'll 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.040 definitely put it all over my Twitter and stuff like that. 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:51.839 You got anything you want to promote before we get 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.839 out of here, Yeah, that'd be great. Um, I've got 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.520 a podcast coming up this May second at Bar Lubic 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.360 in Los Angeles. Someone's free to attend. I'm also on 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:03.160 the road with the Whose Line guys, and we're going 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.560 all over the Midwest and the South starting May fourth. St. 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:11.399 Louis County City, Springfield, Atlanta, Raleigh, Oliver, Dallas And that's 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.440 at whose Live anyway, and then I'll be in New 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.600 York City on May twenty six at the at the 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.399 Bellhouse in Brooklyn. And that podcast is always wild, so 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.600 I'd love it if people would come up for that. 0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.760 And um, the Greg Proops Film Club will be showing 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:33.400 three Days of The Condor on May sixteen Wednesday sixteenth 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.399 at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood. And if you haven't 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.600 seen three Days of the Condor. It's a CIA paranoia 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:43.040 movie from the seventies where Robert Redford has awesome hair. Awesome. 0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.840 Thanks Greg, we'll put all that up on our Facebook page. 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:54.880 Two at Access Podcasts, Hazy, Hi, Maddie. I enjoyed my 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.880 time with Greg Proops. It was a really good interview. 0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.359 It was fun to listen back to. I like, I've 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.520 liked Greg forever. I met Greg a long time ago, 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.759 like fifteen years ago, and uh, he's one of those 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:10.240 people that he's so smart that when he acknowledges something 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.120 that you said is smart, you feel even smarter. And 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.439 I like to you guys had a conversation about how 0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.319 if someone's ignorant, you don't just bash it, You kind 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.960 of try to use it as a learning opportunity. And 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.160 I like that what he said about that. Now you 0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.640 know how I get through my job every day. Learn 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:30.200 Oh No, And hey, being smart it's a wonderful thing. 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.640 And podcasts make you smarter. So this week I wanted 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:37.440 to highlight podcast that makes you smarter and Z You've 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.840 gone out to the interwebs and looked for three to 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:41.799 recommend to our listeners. What he got Ye, So the 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:47.879 first one is Revisionist History with Malcolm Gladwell. Very smart. Yeah, 0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:50.279 very smart guy, and he has this voice that you 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.000 just want to sit and listen to all the time. 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.040 And it's just um. It's a podcast where they interpreted 0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.680 things from the past that cases or like different stories 0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.480 that one might have overlooked and it's really interesting. I 0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.000 love this podcast, let's hear it. He closed her nostrils 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.560 with his other hand, and since she could not get air, 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:13.279 she lost consciousness. When she came to, she realized that 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.000 she was in the back of a moving automobile. Okay, 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.799 I might say, he Okay, he's definitely smarter than me. 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.040 I'm not doing a list of all the people smarter 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.880 than me, and it's getting very long. Yeah, how are 0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.560 you looking on that list? Where are you at? Oh, 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.600 I'm I'm I'm probably fifty deep at this point. And 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.239 that's just in this building alone. What have we got 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:36.120 for the second podcast? The second one is good Job, Brain, 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.839 Good Job, which you actually told me about and I 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.799 love it because I'm such a like trivia nerd. I 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.080 love trivia. And this is just a group of friends 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:45.960 and it's like a they call it like a bar 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:49.800 quiz and it's offbeat trivia and if you love facts 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.200 and learning new facts, this is a great show for you. 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:57.120 Check it out. This is that everybody question what authors 0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:13.359 first three names were John Ronald Rule Martin. Yeah, those 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.200 guys have been at it for a while. I love 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:19.799 podcasts like that that uh come from a place of friendship. Yeah. 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.319 Their chemistry is great and it just flows onto the 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:29.520 audio the podcast. I'm just gonna keep talking. Okay, next one, alright, 0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.280 when the last one is Star Talk with Neil Degrass Tyson, 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:38.000 who is probably like top three smartest people. He's pretty smart, 0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:41.879 he is crazy smart. And he has a podcast about 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:46.399 astrophysics like can I say that work? Um? And he 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:51.399 has great guests like George Takai, Buzz Aldrin, Morgan Freeman, Um, 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.600 obviously Bill Nye the science guy. They're like bfs and 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.680 it's just teaching you more about the universe. And who 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.759 doesn't want to learn more about space. Let's hear it 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:08.279 that a rock has less God in it than life does? Okay? Okay? 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:12.359 And he talks about the orbits of planets and which 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:16.720 Newton had already figured out in his publication of Principia. Okay, 0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.640 so I already figured that out, and so so he 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.440 is not saying that the planets are moving according to God, 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.800 because we already had those answers in this book. Every 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.520 place he involkes God is where we knew the least 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:36.680 about the natural world. That's a very common thing. You know, 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:40.880 who loves Neil de grass Tyson our our music composer, 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:46.839 Casey Franco. Yeah, he's yeah, he's like, he's he's he's 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.400 a big fanboy. I'm pretty sure he has like a 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.400 full size poster m over his bed. Yeah, I've been 0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:57.600 to this place before. That was wonderful. 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