Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome to another edition of Access Podcast,
Speaker 1: the podcast about podcasts. I'm Maddie Stout, and I am
Speaker 1: the smartest man that you know. Producers e correct. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say yes for the sake of my job, thank you.
Speaker 1: But we both know that the smartest man in the
Speaker 1: world is Greg Proops, who you have a personal connection
Speaker 1: with because of the show Whose Line Is It Anyway? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I moved to America with my family from
Speaker 1: Sri Lanka, Whose Line Is Anyway? Was one of the
Speaker 1: first shows that we were introduced to, and my brother
Speaker 1: and I would watch it non stop like there was
Speaker 1: no getting us away from the TV. And Greg Proofs,
Speaker 1: of course, the star of that show and also the
Speaker 1: star of this week's edition of Access Podcast. Let's check
Speaker 1: out a little bit of his show. Let's see here.
Speaker 1: According to recent estimates, women may go under twenty of
Speaker 1: Congress and less than of all state legislatures, only six
Speaker 1: governors or women. But they're of the population. So when
Speaker 1: we go on and on and on, here and here,
Speaker 1: he is the smartest man in the world, the smartest
Speaker 1: guy I've ever had the pleasure to work with. Greg Proops.
Speaker 1: High Greg, Hello, Maddie, you're very flattering. H Well, you
Speaker 1: know it's true. You are very smart, marvelous, there's no question.
Speaker 1: You know. Here was the thing when I did my
Speaker 1: old radio show, we would have comedians come in and
Speaker 1: just let them talk and and not really you know,
Speaker 1: do stick or anything. And there were always a couple
Speaker 1: that I thought, when I moved into podcasting, that's somebody
Speaker 1: that should be podcasting, and you or we're always like
Speaker 1: on the top of that list. For me, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad to see that you've taken the podcasting as much
Speaker 1: as you have. It's really changed everything, Maddie. I think
Speaker 1: it's made me a more relevant comedian. And when I
Speaker 1: did the first one. After I did it, my wife
Speaker 1: Jennifer said to me, this is what you should be doing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, huh, because I always thought stand
Speaker 1: up was the most direct way to communicate with the audience.
Speaker 1: But I think podcasting is you really reach people on
Speaker 1: a honest, visceral level and they seem to hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying. You know. Yeah, I mean I overuse this phrase,
Speaker 1: but you know, podcast create empathy and I think that
Speaker 1: somebody like you that's important and what you do it
Speaker 1: is it's easy to be misunderstood as a comedian because
Speaker 1: people our reactionary and they react to a phrase or
Speaker 1: a word or a thought or something. With podcasting, people
Speaker 1: really hunker down and listen and you can really communicate
Speaker 1: with them. The highest phrase I think, Maddie is like
Speaker 1: people write me and say I used to think about
Speaker 1: things one way, and I listen to your show and
Speaker 1: I've changed my thinking on that, And you think, well,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. Because stand up doesn't change minds. Comedy is
Speaker 1: not really a force for It can be a voice,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's you know, that giant catalyst
Speaker 1: for social change. I'm laughing now, but you know there's
Speaker 1: very few George Carlin's or Bill Hicks or Lily Tomlins. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that. Um again, you know, with with comedy,
Speaker 1: you you hit a city in a city a city,
Speaker 1: and with a podcast it hits so many people. Um,
Speaker 1: have you found a new audience do you think of
Speaker 1: podcasting that you had with comedy? I do. I think
Speaker 1: the people that wouldn't walk in the door of a
Speaker 1: comedy club because they thought it was sexist and racist, Um,
Speaker 1: will listen. I get a lot of young people who
Speaker 1: are too young to come to a comedy club, which
Speaker 1: is really amazing to communicate with teenagers. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know people who can't drink yet they love it as
Speaker 1: entertainment too. And also I've been to um Holland, Sweden, Norway, Scotland, England, France, Australian,
Speaker 1: New Zealand, Finland, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: you can draw an audience all over the world through
Speaker 1: the power of podcasting because it's on people's phone or
Speaker 1: on their computer. You don't have to be on a
Speaker 1: TV show anymore. TV is not necessary to have a presence,
Speaker 1: you know. I think that when somebody's doing a good podcast,
Speaker 1: a good any good radio or audio. In my in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know what's good when people think they
Speaker 1: could do it too. Well, let's say I could you
Speaker 1: know I could do that too. And the same thing
Speaker 1: with comedy. You know, everybody thinks that they can get
Speaker 1: up on stage. But I think, you know, for you,
Speaker 1: I would think that your background and especially with improv,
Speaker 1: has really prepared you to do a podcast where you
Speaker 1: are kind of you know, at your will to speak
Speaker 1: about things. But also no, all right, you know I
Speaker 1: need to stay on some kind of target it's true. Um.
Speaker 1: I love the thrill of walking backwards and free falling
Speaker 1: and improvising and with when you when you podcast, I
Speaker 1: can start at one place and work my way around
Speaker 1: in a huge circle, you know, and still try to
Speaker 1: get towards the point of the thing. Um. Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes me a whole hour to get off
Speaker 1: one topic. But people will stay with you for that
Speaker 1: in a podcast where they wouldn't perhaps as much in
Speaker 1: a stand up act. That kind of want you to
Speaker 1: hit a joke every fifteen seconds, um, And I think
Speaker 1: that's what makes it's so exciting for me. Um. I
Speaker 1: talk about politics, a lot of feminism, history, uh, raised, religion,
Speaker 1: music books are literature blah blah blah, and there's a
Speaker 1: more open playing field for that people. I know people
Speaker 1: are listening and responding to that because they bring poetry
Speaker 1: books to the show. You know, they bring dope and
Speaker 1: dka to you. Of course, my my habits are forefront,
Speaker 1: but they bring poetry books and artwork they've done, and
Speaker 1: feminist literature and records on Vinyl Maddie, which is like,
Speaker 1: you know, close to my heart. So you know you're
Speaker 1: getting through to people, and that's what's happening. And I
Speaker 1: don't ask for these things. It all happened organically, which
Speaker 1: makes it a thousand times more gratifying to me than
Speaker 1: being in a corporate meeting where people talk about what
Speaker 1: they think people like and what they think people want
Speaker 1: and they really don't. They've just taken a survey. One
Speaker 1: of the things I always I have always enjoyed about you,
Speaker 1: and always enjoyed when you would come into the studio
Speaker 1: on the shows that I worked on, is is is
Speaker 1: the topics that you talk about and and you know,
Speaker 1: I like it when people can be funny and smart
Speaker 1: at the same time. And I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 1: the fact that your podcast is doing so well makes
Speaker 1: me feel like maybe society isn't as fucked as I
Speaker 1: think it is. I like to think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wake up with it, you know, like everyone else.
Speaker 1: There's the thirty seconds in the morning before you remember
Speaker 1: what's going on and who the who's in power, and
Speaker 1: then the depression, you know, climbs over you and abuse
Speaker 1: your soul with a blackness that can be inescapable horror
Speaker 1: of the volcanic racism. And you know, but anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: I think you're right, Um, The truth is people are
Speaker 1: interested in my One of my guys I work with
Speaker 1: Matt bell Nap is on Never Not Finding with Jimmy Pardo,
Speaker 1: and he's been at the very beginning of podcasting and
Speaker 1: he asked me to do this with his partner Ryan mcmaniman.
Speaker 1: And at the very beginning of this, he said to
Speaker 1: me something that no TV person would ever say to you.
Speaker 1: He said, people are attracted to content. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what makes me. And then I say to Jennifer, well,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about jazz or I'm talking about this or
Speaker 1: that book, and surely everybody knows this, and she said
Speaker 1: to me, they don't. They don't know it. You need
Speaker 1: to introduce it to them. You're curating what you talk about.
Speaker 1: You're curating literature for them or art, because everybody doesn't
Speaker 1: have the same experience and everybody doesn't have the same
Speaker 1: prime of reference. And it's not a matter of ignorance
Speaker 1: for stupidity, it's just, you know how it is. Some
Speaker 1: people had a good English teacher or good parents, and
Speaker 1: some people didn't, and so they have to kind of
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm teaching a one oh one class.
Speaker 1: You know, I've spent the last six years teaching at
Speaker 1: a university. And and it's one thing I have learned
Speaker 1: is it's it's people aren't bad because they're ignorant. And
Speaker 1: that word gets used wrong. You know, Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: a bad thing to be. I'm ignorant. Every one's ignorant
Speaker 1: on something, UM. And the key is to instead of
Speaker 1: pointing your finger and wagging it at them for being ignorant,
Speaker 1: it's to say, well, let me tell you about that.
Speaker 1: And I think that's something you do very very well,
Speaker 1: and I'm it. And again, it makes me so happy
Speaker 1: that there's actually in the audience is engaged in that,
Speaker 1: because every day I feel a little bit more like
Speaker 1: the movie Idiocracy. UM. And and I and I worry
Speaker 1: that we are we do revel in our ignorance, and
Speaker 1: we revel in UM. We revel in in our snarky
Speaker 1: putdowns that aren't well thought out. And I like it
Speaker 1: when you do very thought thought, well thought out snarky
Speaker 1: put downs. Um. What do you teach, Maddie, I actually
Speaker 1: teach podcasting, UH and broadcasting. I started the first podcast
Speaker 1: program UH as far as I know, in the United
Speaker 1: States at the Candemy of Art University. So that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: It really is an effective tool, you know. And just
Speaker 1: like music, there's a there's podcasting, a million types of
Speaker 1: ways to podcasters, a million different podcasts. Um. My only
Speaker 1: complain about comedy podcasting is that it's inconceivably male for
Speaker 1: the first ten years. And now you're starting to see um,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, black women and and all kinds of
Speaker 1: women getting into it, the guys we fucked and the
Speaker 1: chegop queens, and but it took a while for them
Speaker 1: to get traction, you know, because everything is a white
Speaker 1: guy thing with with comedy, and then it kind of
Speaker 1: gets spread around eventually. Um, but I think it's really
Speaker 1: important to teach podcasting because, like you said, everyone thinks
Speaker 1: they can do uh, you know, a podcast or everyone
Speaker 1: they can do comedy and uh and and sorry, in essence,
Speaker 1: they kind of can. Yeah, if it's if it's And
Speaker 1: here's the thing I al would say to my students
Speaker 1: is even if you get done my class, and by
Speaker 1: the way, my mid term is a power point presentation
Speaker 1: on finding an audience and and like you know, really
Speaker 1: thinking about what you're doing instead of just going out
Speaker 1: and doing it. But that when you're done with my class.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you've learned to communicate effectively so that no matter
Speaker 1: what you do in life, you can go into a room.
Speaker 1: And again I had to overuse the word, but you
Speaker 1: have that feeling of empathy with whoever you're talking to,
Speaker 1: whether it's business or you know, anything else that you do.
Speaker 1: And I think that when you do a podcast, you
Speaker 1: you get to flex that muscle a lot. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're right. Um, empathy isn't so important. Um, Connecting
Speaker 1: with the audience is the only thing I ever wanted
Speaker 1: because I'm shallow and I don't have an inner life,
Speaker 1: and so to be able to to be able to
Speaker 1: reach people. And I think, like you're saying, you're in
Speaker 1: real life. We're on the phone making caustic remarks about
Speaker 1: other people's politics or their habits or whatever, and it's
Speaker 1: a chance to not it's a chance to articulate that
Speaker 1: more and not just take pot shots at people. You
Speaker 1: have to develop something when you're doing a podcast has
Speaker 1: to be I mean, you know that there's you've heard
Speaker 1: ones where people just blather, and then you've heard ones
Speaker 1: where people make a very salient point and or it's
Speaker 1: about history or music, or you know they've taken a
Speaker 1: topic and that's their topic, or sex and all of
Speaker 1: all of which need to be discussed. The problem isn't that,
Speaker 1: like you said, people are ignorant and they're stupid and
Speaker 1: they need to be castigated for being morons. The problem
Speaker 1: is we don't have dialogue about anything. Do you find
Speaker 1: it hard? And I think that Jennifer fills this role
Speaker 1: for you and she as I think you know anybody.
Speaker 1: I love you in your marriage and it reminds me
Speaker 1: so much of my wife and I were. You know,
Speaker 1: that's my best buddy. That's that's my sounding board. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like when you're doing the podcast from the
Speaker 1: Fortress of Propitude that that that's you have a sounding
Speaker 1: board to, you know, instead of having an audience in
Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah? I do. Um. You know, she's
Speaker 1: been um part of this thing since the beginning and
Speaker 1: my partner in it, and a lot of the ways
Speaker 1: the topics have been driven is because of her. A
Speaker 1: lot of the news stories I read and the information
Speaker 1: I have is because of her. So I've given her
Speaker 1: credit since the beginning. And uh now we're starting to
Speaker 1: do ones at home together where she talks more. She's
Speaker 1: always wanted to be sort of in the background, and
Speaker 1: that was her choice, you know, And I didn't press
Speaker 1: her to push forward. But lately she's wanted to say more,
Speaker 1: and so I'm happy with that evolution too. And of
Speaker 1: course people right me and say could you put could
Speaker 1: you turn her mic up? Yeah, you've got her on
Speaker 1: the side there in your sideline here. And now I
Speaker 1: feel awful because I'm always talking about people's sidelining women,
Speaker 1: and and the last thing we did, I don't think
Speaker 1: she was on Mike ut. But yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: have to have a sounding board, um. But more importantly
Speaker 1: than the sounding board for her, for me, she's sort
Speaker 1: of the guiding heart and soul of this whole thing,
Speaker 1: one of the things that you know you do well.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I tell people all the time.
Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, we should be very grateful
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, because it's the first time people actually
Speaker 1: pay attention to what's happening and are interested in c
Speaker 1: span and who's the secretary of this and who's the
Speaker 1: secretary of that. So there is a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot more dialogue about what's going on with our government.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's also created a place where
Speaker 1: you can see where a lot of people aren't maybe
Speaker 1: the best people to be talking about politics. And I
Speaker 1: think of some comedians and some of the podcasts, and
Speaker 1: I think in general social media where it's been maybe
Speaker 1: you know, not working out UM for them. How you know,
Speaker 1: A long way to ask a question is you know,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this, this this current culture
Speaker 1: of of Donald Trump and how it affects what you do.
Speaker 1: I think it's galvanized people in a positive way. And
Speaker 1: I think most importantly it's forced complacent UM white people
Speaker 1: into some sort of you know, getting woke as they say, UM.
Speaker 1: The violence that he brings in his rhetoric, he's basically
Speaker 1: a one man recruiting squad for white supremacists. Every single
Speaker 1: UM in saying shooting that's taken place, the shooters have
Speaker 1: all said that they listened to him, that they appreciated him,
Speaker 1: that it was his message that they were reacting to
Speaker 1: and relating with. UM. And I think it's a real
Speaker 1: nice wake up call for people. If I wanted Hillary
Speaker 1: more than I've wanted anything in my life, but I
Speaker 1: do realize if she had been elected, we'd be locked
Speaker 1: in this thing where the Republican Congress would be fighting
Speaker 1: her tooth and nail right now, she'd probably be indicted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there might be impeachment proceedings going on a year
Speaker 1: and a half. And because that's how psycho they are
Speaker 1: about it. Whereas with this we're fighting against basically fascism
Speaker 1: every day. But now I know the names of every
Speaker 1: single council person in my neighborhood. UM, I'm writing politicians
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm completely galvanized. UM. I've joined fifteen
Speaker 1: different groups. And I think a lot of people feel
Speaker 1: that way. And to see the crushing amount of women
Speaker 1: and young people that are registered to vote and running
Speaker 1: for office is what I always focus on. Um. A
Speaker 1: lot of liberal people will be like, oh, it's worse
Speaker 1: than it ever was, and the whole world's coming to it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's true. But there's gonna be so
Speaker 1: many women running for office in the next two years,
Speaker 1: and so many people of color. We're talking about a
Speaker 1: black woman governor of Georgia in the in the in
Speaker 1: the near future, which has never ever happened in the
Speaker 1: history of the United States. There's never been a black
Speaker 1: woman governor. And that's progress. Might always say to people,
Speaker 1: I'm old and when I was little Nixon was president.
Speaker 1: And when Nick was president, there was no question that
Speaker 1: a woman or a black person was ever going to
Speaker 1: be president, much less attorney general, much less Secretary of State.
Speaker 1: So all those things have happened in my life. And
Speaker 1: I'm not that fucking old. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: things move slowly, incremental change changes. That is the course
Speaker 1: of American politics right now. We're in a terrible time
Speaker 1: where white supremacists and the Russians have an awful hold
Speaker 1: on kind of the people's imagination in the media. But
Speaker 1: I think that the vast majority of people are are
Speaker 1: not bad people. I mean, you know, and and can
Speaker 1: be motivated to get off their ass every once in
Speaker 1: a while, uh and do something. And I think you're
Speaker 1: seeing that. Um. I think of people I didn't know
Speaker 1: the name of a few years ago, like Sarah Kenzie
Speaker 1: or or Joy Read or um you know, that are
Speaker 1: in the media now that are literally fighting for change
Speaker 1: every day. And I think that's the part that gives
Speaker 1: me hope. So that's my take on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is a person, is an inkoit um demanded mess.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have an agenda he I mean a constructed agenda.
Speaker 1: He simply pushes buttons a racism, homophobia, transphobia, whatever. There's
Speaker 1: no coherency to anything Orange forty five is doing because
Speaker 1: he's not intelligent or well read. It was just revealed
Speaker 1: yesterday that mc masters, who was the former National Security Advisor,
Speaker 1: would be in the middle of giving him a briefing
Speaker 1: and realized he wasn't observing anything he said. So we're
Speaker 1: not talking about a normal presidency here. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the idiocracy presidency. Like you say, accepted in the movie
Speaker 1: Terry Crews was more awesome. Oh, he was much more awesome.
Speaker 1: I would probably consider voter for Terry Crews, you know.
Speaker 1: And I had to have to, you know, when when
Speaker 1: everybody says this is the worst time, I I you know,
Speaker 1: you study history, and I'm I'm a bit of a
Speaker 1: history buff. I feel like, you know, when a look
Speaker 1: at the sixties. Uh, there was a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of strife then, and I think out of both
Speaker 1: situations was what you're saying is coming true, which is
Speaker 1: it wakes people up and and hopefully now this next younger, smarter,
Speaker 1: more you know generation will will start paying attention and
Speaker 1: take part as it did with the sixties. Absolutely, look
Speaker 1: look at um uh what the Parkland Uh teenagers of
Speaker 1: jen That march was gigantic and the Republicans can ignore
Speaker 1: it all they want and the n r A can
Speaker 1: react to it all they want. But the tide turned,
Speaker 1: the tide turned. It was it was a moment and
Speaker 1: um with Hillary running, the tide turned there when you
Speaker 1: saw a woman get nominated and get the most votes
Speaker 1: that you don't go back on that. And women are
Speaker 1: I think people are really motivated um in a way
Speaker 1: they weren't before because we have that extra added incentive
Speaker 1: of we're fighting for our very survival. But the sixties
Speaker 1: were this bad and the seventies were this bad, and
Speaker 1: we've had racist, white supremacist, narcissistic, sociopathic liars as presidents,
Speaker 1: just never all at once. Well. I always tell people, Hey,
Speaker 1: you think he's bad, look up Andrew Johnson. Man there
Speaker 1: you go there, that's that's a bad president. My wife
Speaker 1: the other day, that's how boring I am. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you want a white supremacist president who presided over
Speaker 1: a mass and had a corrupt administration, it was Andrew Johnson.
Speaker 1: Is cake taking Lee shitty? He might be the worst
Speaker 1: president extra Trump. I think, I, oh, I I he's
Speaker 1: always my he's always my go to for worst president.
Speaker 1: I can't. Oh my god, he's just horrible. And so
Speaker 1: people think we haven't had this kind of insane white
Speaker 1: supremacy before, but we have many many times. Woodrow Wilson
Speaker 1: was a screaming white supremacist and he was also an intellectual,
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, quite a quite a gyration
Speaker 1: there to be able to do both things. Um, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that this has to do,
Speaker 1: you know, and social media has everything to do with
Speaker 1: why we think everything is the worst now because it's
Speaker 1: it's so in our faces. Um, And you know, how
Speaker 1: have you been able to use you know, social media,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of not only just to to
Speaker 1: say what you think, but also is a is it
Speaker 1: is there a former therapy at all for you? Or
Speaker 1: or do you find it to be as kind of
Speaker 1: does it get you worked up as it does other folks?
Speaker 1: It gets me worked up and then I have to
Speaker 1: take a break from it. And it's when I find
Speaker 1: myself reacting to every single goddamn tweet and feeling like
Speaker 1: I have to chime in, is when I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's okay to think for a while about what's going
Speaker 1: on and not just immediately react. I never used profanity
Speaker 1: on my Twitter, and the one or two times I
Speaker 1: accused someone of being a Nazi openly, I got very
Speaker 1: big trouble and trolled to death, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: so don't do that. Um, I can't believe the people
Speaker 1: who right fuck you you yea there because it's there forever, yeah,
Speaker 1: and someone that's going to go back and find that
Speaker 1: you called someone a piece of shit, And so I
Speaker 1: try to keep the discourse high. UM. I decided early
Speaker 1: on that in my acting on the podcast, I'll use
Speaker 1: profanity freely. But on Twitter and social media, I feel
Speaker 1: like it doesn't really do a lot for your rep um,
Speaker 1: and you can't call everyone that you think is a
Speaker 1: moron a moron. Um. You have to let morons be
Speaker 1: more on. Sometimes it loses its luster if you overuse it,
Speaker 1: I think. So I try to praise people, and the
Speaker 1: only good thing about social media is like, for instance, um,
Speaker 1: LORI kill Martin who's a friend of mine, and Alison
Speaker 1: Rosen is a friend of mine. They both have books
Speaker 1: out now, and so you're able to help people by
Speaker 1: pumping their projects, you know. And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: a really good thing about social media. When my book
Speaker 1: came out, I asked all my little comedian friends, will
Speaker 1: you retweet this? And to a person they did, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of the the fun of
Speaker 1: social media is that it's a it's a it's a club,
Speaker 1: it's a fraternity, if you will, where we can support
Speaker 1: each other. I can't wait to see the support you
Speaker 1: give my new pot of this new podcast of mine.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, Maddie. You tell me when and I will,
Speaker 1: as they say, retweet it and I'll send it out
Speaker 1: to I think that's the other groovy thing is like
Speaker 1: I love doing podcasts and I don't care if they're
Speaker 1: new or big established ones. I love doing new ones too,
Speaker 1: because that's how they get off the ground. Baby Ria
Speaker 1: Butcher just started one called three Strikes, three Swings, and
Speaker 1: You're Out, a baseball one. I'm gonna do one named
Speaker 1: podcast carpool in May that a guy hooked me up with, UM,
Speaker 1: you asked me to do years and I thought, yes, UM,
Speaker 1: because I know you and we've always had fun chatting. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think that's how they get off the ground and
Speaker 1: how you get any traction. You know, Well, we started
Speaker 1: Stitcher and that's you know, I left. That's why I
Speaker 1: left my morning show was to go over and help
Speaker 1: start Stitcher. Was you know, the one guy I always
Speaker 1: remember who would do anything and want any podcast was
Speaker 1: Mark Marin. Mark. Mark said no to nobody when he
Speaker 1: started that podcast. We did. I did a little podcast
Speaker 1: out of a closet at Stitcher because you know, startup,
Speaker 1: we had no mudget everything. And Mark came and did
Speaker 1: the podcast in my closet, and and and I think
Speaker 1: that that's and that's it's and it's one of the
Speaker 1: things that make podcasting special is that it's not a
Speaker 1: it's not cutthroat. It's not like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: every morning radio guy thinks he's the coolest thing in
Speaker 1: the world and every other morning radio guy sucks. You
Speaker 1: don't get that attitude with podcasters. It's hey, how can
Speaker 1: I help you with your podcast? Because it's just helping me.
Speaker 1: At the same time, I agree, I've done obscure ones
Speaker 1: in Sacrimano, Colorado, Zameto, Toronto. Yeah, I can't remember the
Speaker 1: guy's name. He did it in his house. We all
Speaker 1: went over, we smoked a joint and he had a dog.
Speaker 1: He took pictures of us, and uh, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone heard it. I think some people
Speaker 1: hear it. Um Any any time I go to where
Speaker 1: cats will ask me to do their podcast, I I
Speaker 1: generally if I have a moment, I'll do it. My
Speaker 1: new account in Philly was a big music fan. I
Speaker 1: went over to his house and in his dining room
Speaker 1: table we did it. And you know that that's the
Speaker 1: other thing that's beautiful about it. This is a movable feast.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of different Zoom recorders, but I've
Speaker 1: got the little handheld Zoom one now and it's changed
Speaker 1: my life, man, because uh, Jennifer and I went to
Speaker 1: Mississippi last year with the Lady parts Justice Liz Winstead,
Speaker 1: who is a great comedian who started daily show, and
Speaker 1: she has this you know, abortion rights group that helps
Speaker 1: out and goes to clinics all over the country. And
Speaker 1: they don't just go and like do a comedy show
Speaker 1: and self intuligent. They'll paint the place, they'll bring office furniture,
Speaker 1: whatever it's required they ask. Then they do a comedy show.
Speaker 1: They also do escorting and then at the end of
Speaker 1: the comedy show. There's like an open dialogue with doctors
Speaker 1: and volunteers. It's very cool. So I went and the
Speaker 1: one in Mississippi is full of anti choice, crazy white
Speaker 1: men with bibles and pictures of dead babies outside screaming
Speaker 1: at a stream of poor black women who all of
Speaker 1: whom have four or five kids and are getting an
Speaker 1: abortion because they can't afford on another child. And I
Speaker 1: had the recorder in my hand and they started yelling
Speaker 1: at me the minute I got there, and then I
Speaker 1: was able to interview them. They were glad to do
Speaker 1: an interview because they recognized me from whose line. And
Speaker 1: I kept it really low key, you know. I let
Speaker 1: them talk and I spoke like this in a cold,
Speaker 1: clear tone to them, and they explained their position, which
Speaker 1: was kind of crazy, and I think that did more
Speaker 1: than if I'd argued with them, were ranted and raved
Speaker 1: about it. I let them talk, and everybody wrote and
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe this with these what these
Speaker 1: white men believe, and it's like, well, that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: They also didn't know that white men gather outside of
Speaker 1: clinics all over the country and scream at black people
Speaker 1: for trying to avail themselves of their constitutional rights, whereas
Speaker 1: no one stands outside gunshops and yells at white guys day.
Speaker 1: And so the effectiveness of having a little handheld device
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. When I was a little my first tape
Speaker 1: recorder had two giant reels and it was weighed like pounds,
Speaker 1: you know. And now that we can carry around these
Speaker 1: things that are small as a phone, and you know,
Speaker 1: it just makes broadcasting a whole nother thing. No more
Speaker 1: physical tape. Baby, you don't have to deal with that
Speaker 1: ship anymore. But yeah, we still say tape. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and we still say we say recording, we say telephone.
Speaker 1: We I think, I always say to Jennifer, everything is
Speaker 1: really old fashioned, even though it's super new. Uh, people
Speaker 1: still say tape things. I love that my wife makes
Speaker 1: fun of me because I'll forget I'm from West Virginia
Speaker 1: and then I'll say an expression and like I'll call
Speaker 1: it the commode where I'll call her I'll call her purse,
Speaker 1: her pocketbook, and she's like, she's like, what are you some?
Speaker 1: Are you an eighty year old person here with pocketbook
Speaker 1: and commode. I'm like, now, that's just how we talked
Speaker 1: there all right, do you say crick and ruff as well? Oh,
Speaker 1: crick roof and holler. Yeah, we're going to West Virginia
Speaker 1: this year for the Lady Parks Justice League thing. That's
Speaker 1: the date we're gonna do. We're gonna go to Charleston. Oh,
Speaker 1: good luck in Charleston, and then I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: interview the teachers because that's great just so happens in
Speaker 1: the clinic and Charleston doesn't have a bunch of crazy
Speaker 1: people standing outside. Um they they they've gotten off the
Speaker 1: hook on that. So I thought we'd go and talk
Speaker 1: to the teachers. Or it was Jennifer's ideal. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: because the teachers have started a tidal wave in West
Speaker 1: Virginia and God blessed them. You know, it's spread to
Speaker 1: Kansas and Oklahoma and everywhere. You know, there's uh my,
Speaker 1: my one of my best dearest friends is a lawyer
Speaker 1: uh in Charleston, African American lawyer, and he you know, he,
Speaker 1: you know, he is always kind of pressuring me. He's like,
Speaker 1: we need you, people like you to come back because
Speaker 1: you know, we need to get voices back in the state.
Speaker 1: Who have you know, have experience and and think a
Speaker 1: little bit. And you know, when I saw that teacher strike,
Speaker 1: I was just warmed my heart to see the people
Speaker 1: that came out to support them. Uh, in the in
Speaker 1: the state, because you know, my my state worries me
Speaker 1: a lot. And I'm glad that you're going there. I
Speaker 1: think that you'll you'll have a wonderful time. I hope
Speaker 1: you can get to the Eastern Panhandle, that's where I'm from,
Speaker 1: which is actually the beautiful part of the state. So
Speaker 1: I've been a couple of times in West Virginia and
Speaker 1: plive years ago with whose Line at the University in Charleston,
Speaker 1: and they were unbelievably avid. And they also we did
Speaker 1: a Q and A after or I guess Ryan and
Speaker 1: Chip did. I'm I didn't take it much part of it,
Speaker 1: but they they the students really wanted to talk, uh,
Speaker 1: and it was it was an opportunity for them to
Speaker 1: talk to people who make a living performing. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the people ask me, why do you go everywhere and
Speaker 1: do stuff? And it's like I feel like you're you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're troupe doors. Uh. You know, as a performer,
Speaker 1: you gotta I don't know, Bob Dylan. You look at
Speaker 1: his calendar sometimes and he'll be in like Lexington, Kentucky
Speaker 1: and Evansville, Indiana, and people will ask him why do
Speaker 1: you go to these places? And he's like, people live there,
Speaker 1: and I think it's good for you know, I grew
Speaker 1: up in a really small town in West Virginia, pretty poor,
Speaker 1: and um, I would go once this year to this, uh,
Speaker 1: this church camp and it was the one place where
Speaker 1: I meet people who were from different backgrounds, had you know,
Speaker 1: come from different families, and we're smart and really were
Speaker 1: into reading and education. And and um, Henry Lewis Gates Jr.
Speaker 1: Is from the town that I'm from it and he
Speaker 1: would go to the same church camp. And I've read
Speaker 1: his book Black People, He Colored People. He talks about
Speaker 1: that being the place where he actually got some like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there is a world outside of Kaiser,
Speaker 1: West Virginia. And and I think that when people you know,
Speaker 1: come into the state and do performances, you know, there's
Speaker 1: always that kid like me who was going to see
Speaker 1: it and go oh wow, Yeah, there's people that don't
Speaker 1: think like everybody that I go to school with, this
Speaker 1: is cool, Alright, I can I have there are other
Speaker 1: people out there. Yes, it's and it's so important. Um,
Speaker 1: the people who live in real America have that communication.
Speaker 1: People do right in me and Goo, I live in
Speaker 1: a terrible little town in Missouri or a little town
Speaker 1: in Illinois, and I love listening to your show, and
Speaker 1: you think, well, you're reaching them, and that's important, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love New York and London in San
Speaker 1: Francisco as much as anyone else, and of course I
Speaker 1: want to play there all the time, and I do.
Speaker 1: But cities are starting to be like places people are
Speaker 1: leaving because they can't afford to be there anymore. You know.
Speaker 1: We were just in Ohio and Indiana, and the downtowns
Speaker 1: are getting renewed in some of these towns that are
Speaker 1: you know, like Toledo. Um, Toledo is not. It's depressing,
Speaker 1: but you can see that it's coming back. And people
Speaker 1: are forced to move to places like that now because
Speaker 1: you can't go to Portland or Denver anymore. Portland and
Speaker 1: Denver priced themselves right out of the market. And there's
Speaker 1: that there's that wild reality going on in the United
Speaker 1: States where there's simply not enough places to live in
Speaker 1: enough jobs for everyone to afford. You know, when we
Speaker 1: first lived in Arantisto, Maddie, you could live there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now what is it? Four thous dollars a months the
Speaker 1: average rent. It's ridiculous, It's crazy. I don't know how
Speaker 1: anybody lives here who's on a normal income. I honestly don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be like Facebook rich too,
Speaker 1: and that's just that's not riot. I mean when I yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I think that the real estate developers are the most
Speaker 1: I used to think arms dealers were the most evil
Speaker 1: people on earth, but I think it's real estate developers
Speaker 1: and Luke who's president. Yeah, oh, I there's nothing more frustrating.
Speaker 1: I mean, my wife and I were looking to buy
Speaker 1: a house, and you can't buy one unless you have
Speaker 1: cash in hand. And those folks who are buying them
Speaker 1: with cash in hand don't live here. They don't. They're
Speaker 1: only doing it for speculation. It's it's really frustrating. And
Speaker 1: all these damn flippers, all these flippers that damn TV
Speaker 1: shows made everybody think they can go out and flip
Speaker 1: a home now, so they come and buy them and
Speaker 1: then yeah, it's terrible. Oh I know. I mean I
Speaker 1: bought a house in l A with my wife, and
Speaker 1: they're always asking us to sell it. But what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do with it is tear it down and build
Speaker 1: a McMansion. And I'm not doing that. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: I can't add to that, you know, it's there's enough
Speaker 1: of that. Um. Yeah, I have heart of any part
Speaker 1: of any cities, the architecture, and I don't understand people
Speaker 1: who just want to knock everything down all the time.
Speaker 1: But l A is heedless, you know, I'm a at
Speaker 1: least it's a little bit more affordable in l A though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, it is, It still is, and there's still
Speaker 1: cheap apartments to rent. Cheaper When I first came to
Speaker 1: l A, Oh my god, I think we were renting
Speaker 1: a place for I was splitting it with Sue Murphy,
Speaker 1: the comedian, and like there's think five dred dollars each
Speaker 1: a month. Twenty years ago. Hey, I got a question
Speaker 1: from a listener, Larry. He's got three I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you two of him. One. Do you have a photographic memory? No,
Speaker 1: I just have a good memory. Um, there's giant gaps
Speaker 1: in my memory, and of course memories really selective. I
Speaker 1: don't remember any of my nephews or niece's birthdays. But
Speaker 1: I can tell you what Tai Cobb hit for every
Speaker 1: season kind of thing. So that's amazing. Uh, that's you know,
Speaker 1: It's like some of the sports guys that worked with
Speaker 1: in New York that they would walk in and just
Speaker 1: they couldn't remember what they have lunched yesterday. But I
Speaker 1: forget about you know, the eight six Mets will tell
Speaker 1: you every stat everything about him. Sure. How about the
Speaker 1: other question as is, were you Do you really drink
Speaker 1: vodka when you're doing a podcast? I do. I've got
Speaker 1: a drinking problem, and I take it on the air.
Speaker 1: I necked down several glasses during a podcast I'm doing
Speaker 1: one tomorrow night here in h Holifox is where I
Speaker 1: am now at the Halifax Comedy Festival, and they put
Speaker 1: me in a little bar called the Carlton and I've
Speaker 1: done it there. I've done it here a couple of
Speaker 1: times and really good fun. Is the end of the
Speaker 1: bloody continent out here. Um. But yes, I really drink.
Speaker 1: I really drink, and people give me my call all
Speaker 1: the time. I bet once once they know you like something,
Speaker 1: that was the thing. I quit drinking h three years ago. Well,
Speaker 1: I can always tell when somebody's really a friend of
Speaker 1: mine and when they're not by the gifts that give
Speaker 1: me a Christmas because they'll, you know, I'll get bottles
Speaker 1: in the mail. I'm like, yeah, we haven't talked for
Speaker 1: a while, have we? Uh right, I can't enable that ship.
Speaker 1: It's like, well it's you know. Then I have gifts
Speaker 1: for other folks. So it doesn't work out very bad,
Speaker 1: but it's always funny. Hey. Um. I always end with
Speaker 1: three killer questions. Three questions if you could listen to
Speaker 1: a podcast that had anybody living or dead on it?
Speaker 1: Whose podcast would you listen to? Oh? Gee whiz, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. Um uh golly, all right. You kind
Speaker 1: of stopped me because I have a thousand people that
Speaker 1: I want to say. You can come up with a
Speaker 1: couple of combinations if you want. This is one I
Speaker 1: was really excited to ask you in particularly because I
Speaker 1: figured you come up with something good. I would like
Speaker 1: to hear Gentle Rivers because I wished up been adored
Speaker 1: her as a comedian. Um living Friendly Blitz. If someone
Speaker 1: would just interview Friendly Wits every week. Um, she's so
Speaker 1: witty and so funny and so incisive and is so
Speaker 1: liberal minded and hysterically you know, just I just adore
Speaker 1: her UM comedy. She's mostly a writer, obviously, but she
Speaker 1: does do interviews and she just nails the douvil out
Speaker 1: of it. UM if it was old fashion, if we're
Speaker 1: talking living or dead, ever, I would love to hear
Speaker 1: Leonardo da Vinci's thoughts UM. I'd also love to hear
Speaker 1: like some of the women of history that get skipped over,
Speaker 1: like Ada Loveless who basically kind of invented the computer,
Speaker 1: and all of the black women from Hidden Figures who
Speaker 1: were the physicists who worked at NASA UM. It would
Speaker 1: be very interesting to hear them talk about their experience
Speaker 1: with UM astronomy and and dealing with the giant paradigm
Speaker 1: that they were forced into and how to go with it.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear Abraham Lincoln speak, um, have I
Speaker 1: given you enough? You've given me funny? I could go
Speaker 1: on and those are great. Louis Strong I think would
Speaker 1: have quite a lot to say about different things. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: people living who don't get on podcasts, and maybe we
Speaker 1: should interview them, like Dolor Suerta, who started United farm
Speaker 1: Workers with Cesar Chavas. She's still alive and you've just
Speaker 1: given me an idea. Here you go. That's that's my
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's the producer and me, Hey,
Speaker 1: what was the right? Yeah, we mentioned you know, podcasting
Speaker 1: is kind of the latest technology that's that's changed your
Speaker 1: life and what you do. What's the first piece of
Speaker 1: technology that you remember using and going this is neat,
Speaker 1: this is going to be something, it's going to change
Speaker 1: my life. Well, um, like I said, when I was
Speaker 1: probably six or seven, like parents, game in this tape
Speaker 1: recorder and it had giant reels and you turned, uh,
Speaker 1: this giant lever to make it go and to rewind it,
Speaker 1: and then you had to press the button and turn
Speaker 1: the leaver at the same time to make a record.
Speaker 1: And it had one of those green like I don't
Speaker 1: know what you would call it, an a solo scope,
Speaker 1: like you know that when you spoke the levels, we're
Speaker 1: kind of a fluctuating co sign in the that's early.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's digital technology. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was a light bulb, you know. I remember thinking that
Speaker 1: was super bitchen and also portable phonographs when that was little,
Speaker 1: the kind you would drag over to your friend's house
Speaker 1: and just plug it in the wall and it just played.
Speaker 1: That was like we thought that was the living end.
Speaker 1: Um and transistor radios when I was really little in
Speaker 1: the sixties, because you could listen to the ball game
Speaker 1: on them with one little ear piece in your ear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you could look you could hide in bed
Speaker 1: and listen to ball games or take it anywhere and
Speaker 1: no one would You could sneak uh listening to games.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, radio was way more eclectic once
Speaker 1: upon a time, as you recall. Um and I listened
Speaker 1: to a dazzling variety of weird DJs from San Francisco
Speaker 1: alone in my room. Um, guys who played comedy. John
Speaker 1: guild Land was on Casapo, guys who did comedy like um, uh,
Speaker 1: well not I'm not old enough to really for Surewood
Speaker 1: bid him. Oh golly, I'm blanking on his name. But
Speaker 1: there was you know. Anyways, there was eclectic shows where
Speaker 1: I remember hearing Monty Paton for the first time on
Speaker 1: the radio before they on TV. Um. John Gillan played
Speaker 1: them on his comedy show. Um, and I think that's
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing now. For people. What those people
Speaker 1: did for us when we were a little the exposing
Speaker 1: you to different things that you had no idea existed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I always tell folks with you know, when
Speaker 1: I was little, we didn't have TV, but we radio
Speaker 1: and Dcor Demento. Yes, that was God. That was how
Speaker 1: I found you know, comedy. You know that my mom
Speaker 1: let me listen to any comedy albums. I wanted to,
Speaker 1: so George Carlin and you know, when I was like
Speaker 1: six or seven, was listening to George Carlin and those things.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, Dr Demento And I remember my first
Speaker 1: radio job on an FM station was I got to
Speaker 1: play Doctor Demento on Sunday nights at nine o'clock. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I've made it, yes, yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so Dr Demano. Plus he played um, you know,
Speaker 1: records from the twenties and thirties. Oh yeah, he played
Speaker 1: like all Bob and Ray stuff and he'd play um,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, Spike Jones and you know all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. That was you know, you know, for a
Speaker 1: you know, nobody else was playing that. Yeah, no, he
Speaker 1: he was the one, and it was coast to coast
Speaker 1: and it was syndicated. Um. We even I remember I
Speaker 1: was in a group called fault Line and Santancisco in
Speaker 1: the eighties and we made a Christmas rap record or
Speaker 1: something and we sent it to him because the show
Speaker 1: was still on. This is like eight five. We sent
Speaker 1: him a vinyl single of it, and he wrote us
Speaker 1: back and said, I'm not going to play it, but
Speaker 1: it was more trenchant than most comedy records. And I
Speaker 1: remember being absolutely thrilled that he called our record trenchant,
Speaker 1: and uh, it was. Yeah. He's I think a great broadcaster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people have different experiences
Speaker 1: depending on what your generation is. Um. There was a
Speaker 1: radio station in San Francisco that I made it to
Speaker 1: the eighties called ks an Case and and they had
Speaker 1: really eclectic Deejays who played rock and roll but also stranger,
Speaker 1: you know, harder, deeper cuts. And I got an education
Speaker 1: from them too, And they embraced punk when it came out,
Speaker 1: whereas the hard rock stations were very resistant to it.
Speaker 1: And then punk leads you to art and literature and style,
Speaker 1: you know, a different direction than listening to Ted Nugent
Speaker 1: or Montrose or something. All of a sudden, now you
Speaker 1: have to deal with the intention behind a song, the
Speaker 1: politics behind a song, the fashion behind a song. And
Speaker 1: then of course, um, I listened to ks so Well
Speaker 1: and Kate uh K d I A, which were the
Speaker 1: black stations in the bar area, and that's where I
Speaker 1: learned about Glutsy Collins and Rick James and Funkadelic and
Speaker 1: Choca Con and you know what I mean. Like so
Speaker 1: when I was at pizza delivery boy, I would drive
Speaker 1: around sam Matal and smoke cools and listen to Kiss
Speaker 1: so Well and they were playing everything groovy, you know.
Speaker 1: So it was just the Bear has always been good
Speaker 1: for that because the area is multicultural, and we never
Speaker 1: even with all the problems of the Barrier House and
Speaker 1: the racism and the lack of housing and all that jazz,
Speaker 1: the poverty, there's always been Latin people, Asian people, black people,
Speaker 1: white people. You know what I mean. Look at my name,
Speaker 1: it spos to it more. And then if you lived
Speaker 1: in an all white place like say, you know Canada, Yeah,
Speaker 1: r Hanada is not really all why but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, No, I bring that up when I go.
Speaker 1: I still go hunting with my dad in Pennsylvania and
Speaker 1: uh and I'll get in conversations with guys there and
Speaker 1: just kind of just point out that, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: your experience is not like mine where I'm the only
Speaker 1: white family on the block. You know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: little bet Um. All right, one more, What was the
Speaker 1: last podcast that you binged? Um? That's just gonna sound terrible.
Speaker 1: I don't really binge podcasts that much. I listened to
Speaker 1: some sometimes. UM. I love Jacky Cations the Dork Forest
Speaker 1: because she gets people on to talk about stuff that's
Speaker 1: real meaningful to them. So it can be any old thing, um,
Speaker 1: old time movies, baseball, whatnot. Um. I listened to mine
Speaker 1: back um after I do it because I want to
Speaker 1: make it the producer and me, I want to make
Speaker 1: it better and less repetitive and less as far as
Speaker 1: the vodka goes. Sometimes maybe there's too much, and that's
Speaker 1: not always a good dance you make. You want to
Speaker 1: make sure you're making sense and ur ahead of the
Speaker 1: audience instead of being that the drunk guy who's cornered
Speaker 1: you in a kitchen. You know what, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what that was like until I stopped drinking, and now
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, that was me. I was the
Speaker 1: drunk guy, uh in the kitchen trying to tell you
Speaker 1: why the world needs changed, right. Yeah, I just that's
Speaker 1: my worst fear. My two worst fears are irrelevance and
Speaker 1: to be the drunk guy who's corned you in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and it is repeating the same story. Man, that's funny. Um,
Speaker 1: that's great. Uh well, uh run that time. But I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on, Greg. I'm glad that we
Speaker 1: got to cash up and and and it's been too long.
Speaker 1: And you're somebody I always I do. I think of
Speaker 1: more often you would than you would probably know. Um,
Speaker 1: that's kind. I've always been thought of you fondly. And
Speaker 1: every time I go back and do um Sarah and Vinnie,
Speaker 1: every time I go, and I was there through the
Speaker 1: Sarah No Name years as well. Uh this, every time
Speaker 1: I go back and see do Sarah and Vinny, I
Speaker 1: think of you because sometimes you do the show now
Speaker 1: and the producers like looking at the computer the whole time. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. It changes, everything changes a
Speaker 1: little bit. And uh uh and I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it's good to see you in this world. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you're podcasting, and I do think it's it adds to
Speaker 1: our culture and in a little bit, UH makes me
Speaker 1: hopeful that things are things aren't as bad as we
Speaker 1: as I think they are sometimes. Thanks Pal, that's really
Speaker 1: nice of you. Do you let me know when this
Speaker 1: is going to come out and email me and I'll
Speaker 1: definitely put it all over my Twitter and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You got anything you want to promote before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, Yeah, that'd be great. Um, I've got
Speaker 1: a podcast coming up this May second at Bar Lubic
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Someone's free to attend. I'm also on
Speaker 1: the road with the Whose Line guys, and we're going
Speaker 1: all over the Midwest and the South starting May fourth. St.
Speaker 1: Louis County City, Springfield, Atlanta, Raleigh, Oliver, Dallas And that's
Speaker 1: at whose Live anyway, and then I'll be in New
Speaker 1: York City on May twenty six at the at the
Speaker 1: Bellhouse in Brooklyn. And that podcast is always wild, so
Speaker 1: I'd love it if people would come up for that.
Speaker 1: And um, the Greg Proops Film Club will be showing
Speaker 1: three Days of The Condor on May sixteen Wednesday sixteenth
Speaker 1: at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood. And if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen three Days of the Condor. It's a CIA paranoia
Speaker 1: movie from the seventies where Robert Redford has awesome hair. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks Greg, we'll put all that up on our Facebook page.
Speaker 1: Two at Access Podcasts, Hazy, Hi, Maddie. I enjoyed my
Speaker 1: time with Greg Proops. It was a really good interview.
Speaker 1: It was fun to listen back to. I like, I've
Speaker 1: liked Greg forever. I met Greg a long time ago,
Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago, and uh, he's one of those
Speaker 1: people that he's so smart that when he acknowledges something
Speaker 1: that you said is smart, you feel even smarter. And
Speaker 1: I like to you guys had a conversation about how
Speaker 1: if someone's ignorant, you don't just bash it, You kind
Speaker 1: of try to use it as a learning opportunity. And
Speaker 1: I like that what he said about that. Now you
Speaker 1: know how I get through my job every day. Learn
Speaker 1: Oh No, And hey, being smart it's a wonderful thing.
Speaker 1: And podcasts make you smarter. So this week I wanted
Speaker 1: to highlight podcast that makes you smarter and Z You've
Speaker 1: gone out to the interwebs and looked for three to
Speaker 1: recommend to our listeners. What he got Ye, So the
Speaker 1: first one is Revisionist History with Malcolm Gladwell. Very smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very smart guy, and he has this voice that you
Speaker 1: just want to sit and listen to all the time.
Speaker 1: And it's just um. It's a podcast where they interpreted
Speaker 1: things from the past that cases or like different stories
Speaker 1: that one might have overlooked and it's really interesting. I
Speaker 1: love this podcast, let's hear it. He closed her nostrils
Speaker 1: with his other hand, and since she could not get air,
Speaker 1: she lost consciousness. When she came to, she realized that
Speaker 1: she was in the back of a moving automobile. Okay,
Speaker 1: I might say, he Okay, he's definitely smarter than me.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a list of all the people smarter
Speaker 1: than me, and it's getting very long. Yeah, how are
Speaker 1: you looking on that list? Where are you at? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm probably fifty deep at this point. And
Speaker 1: that's just in this building alone. What have we got
Speaker 1: for the second podcast? The second one is good Job, Brain,
Speaker 1: Good Job, which you actually told me about and I
Speaker 1: love it because I'm such a like trivia nerd. I
Speaker 1: love trivia. And this is just a group of friends
Speaker 1: and it's like a they call it like a bar
Speaker 1: quiz and it's offbeat trivia and if you love facts
Speaker 1: and learning new facts, this is a great show for you.
Speaker 1: Check it out. This is that everybody question what authors
Speaker 1: first three names were John Ronald Rule Martin. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys have been at it for a while. I love
Speaker 1: podcasts like that that uh come from a place of friendship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Their chemistry is great and it just flows onto the
Speaker 1: audio the podcast. I'm just gonna keep talking. Okay, next one, alright,
Speaker 1: when the last one is Star Talk with Neil Degrass Tyson,
Speaker 1: who is probably like top three smartest people. He's pretty smart,
Speaker 1: he is crazy smart. And he has a podcast about
Speaker 1: astrophysics like can I say that work? Um? And he
Speaker 1: has great guests like George Takai, Buzz Aldrin, Morgan Freeman, Um,
Speaker 1: obviously Bill Nye the science guy. They're like bfs and
Speaker 1: it's just teaching you more about the universe. And who
Speaker 1: doesn't want to learn more about space. Let's hear it
Speaker 1: that a rock has less God in it than life does? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: And he talks about the orbits of planets and which
Speaker 1: Newton had already figured out in his publication of Principia. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I already figured that out, and so so he
Speaker 1: is not saying that the planets are moving according to God,
Speaker 1: because we already had those answers in this book. Every
Speaker 1: place he involkes God is where we knew the least
Speaker 1: about the natural world. That's a very common thing. You know,
Speaker 1: who loves Neil de grass Tyson our our music composer,
Speaker 1: Casey Franco. Yeah, he's yeah, he's like, he's he's he's
Speaker 1: a big fanboy. I'm pretty sure he has like a
Speaker 1: full size poster m over his bed. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: to this place before. That was wonderful. Thank you, Zee
Speaker 1: and uh. If you like to hear those podcasts, don't
Speaker 1: forget check them out on the I Heart Radio player.
Speaker 1: If you've got a podcast that you want to put
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio player, I guess what. There's
Speaker 1: a submissions page and what we're linked to that up
Speaker 1: on our website. All you have to do so check
Speaker 1: us out on Facebook. It's Access Podcast on Facebook. You
Speaker 1: can also catch us on Twitter. It's Access Podcast one.
Speaker 1: Some dumb dumb took Access podcast ten years ago and
Speaker 1: it's never used to handle woo uh. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: can follow us on social media. I also want to
Speaker 1: thank everybody involved with the show. See you're the best.
Speaker 1: Casey Franco composes our music, Don'ton Runberg helps out with graphics.
Speaker 1: Also want to thank Rick Hardo, a R who does
Speaker 1: a lot of social media promotion for us as well.
Speaker 1: So thanks to all those guys. Thanks to Don Parker
Speaker 1: and Katie Wilcox here in San Francisco, and our godfather
Speaker 1: of podcasting, Chris Patterson. What's up Chris, Hey, let's do
Speaker 1: a shout out to to Darren James, president of I
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