1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a training camp edition of 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly Money, finally away from the zoom in person. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: And this is a training camp tradition. We kick it 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: off from the top to let's go. Every year, I 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: think it's like the sixth year we've done this. Tom. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: We're usually doing the picnic bench behind us. We got 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: the lights now, you know. Yeah, you brought him the 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Diehard Bowl Club to show I LA every year the 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: first day training camp. I shouldn't say every year, pin 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: of the last three or four years, it shows up 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: on my desk the first day. I don't know how 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: it gets there. I don't know who brings it in. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but it shows up and I'm 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna we yeah, I put it on. Well. The good 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: news is the Navy of the Diehard Bowl Club is 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: really connecting with the sun. It is so when we 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: say we're gonna make Tom sweat during this interview, we 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: mean literally, he's gonna sweat. But it has nothing to 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: do with the questions. I'll start with this. I'm just 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I've been watching the defense these first two days, and 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: it looks like you got some real depth on that 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Like there's some young guys your 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: free agents, I mean, and that obviously is a great thing, 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: and it makes it tough when we're talking three four 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: weeks from now. Just sort of your observations of not 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: pads or anything, that's just what you've seen out there 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: from some of the young guys in the new face. Yeah, 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I'll say this just to give some perspective since the 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: beginning of football whenever that was the first week of 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: training camps are in the first couple of days, the 31 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: defense is always flying around. They're always ahead of the offense. 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: It's like every time, I mean, so either out there celebrating, 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: which is great, and you know the offense is just 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. It will start to balance 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: out as we get towards the end of the week. 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously at a lot of upgrades on defense. 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: When I say upgrades, more that fit the style that 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: we need to play with this defense. So so a 39 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of changes we need this training camp on defense 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: just to get used of playing with each other. With 41 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: the mint of new faces and what we've seen the 42 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: last couple of days, I mean, they're gonna make our 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: offense better. There's not a whole lot of big windows 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: to throw throw into right now. So you know, both 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: those sides are really gonna work. But we need a 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of work on defensive training camp because the amount 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: of new people that we have to get ready to go. 48 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: I think the biggest difference I see from last year 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to this year is the increased competition at certain spots. 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: And the secretary is a perfect example that maybe guys 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,119 Speaker 1: who didn't have to be pushed as much last year, 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: there's more guys in that secretary, let's say, for instance, 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: to make everybody better. Yeah, I mean there's two ways 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: that that depth really helps. Obviously. One is if you 55 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: have some injuries, if you have some players that don't 56 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: play the way you thought they're going to play, to 57 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: have people to step up and go, um, we know 58 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: we'll need more than fifty three players this year as 59 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: we go on through the season. But yeah, people pushing 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: each other, like we're seeing it at running back. You 61 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: know we just you dropped aaa spiller and you know 62 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: that whole group is now kind of you know, rising 63 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: up a real moment. Everyone's competing so hard. I mean, 64 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Josh Kelly and Larry Roundtree or everyone's kind of competing 65 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: real hard. So, but that's how you get better as 66 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: a football team and player development is having everybody pushing 67 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: everybody else, and he try and get that at every position. 68 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: Takes a little time to get there. I was doing 69 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: an interview with serious x Em earlier and just talking 70 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: about you know, as we moved from the Philip Rivers 71 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: era and now into the Justin Herbert era, it takes 72 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: more than a year to try and get to where 73 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: you want to go. So it's taken a couple of 74 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: years to try and get the talent level up. You know, 75 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: it's a big difference with the team where you're building 76 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: around Philip. You know, a veteran quarterback, you know, experienced 77 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: different contract as well to now a younger quarterback. You've 78 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: got to build a team a little bit differently. So 79 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: it has taken us a couple of years to get there. 80 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: We're much closer now, getting the weeds a little bit 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: here and again it's two practices. It's no pads, but 82 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: just you mentioned Isaiah Spiller and every now and then 83 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: someone kind of raises their hands. It looks like Dean Leonards. 84 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: He was sticky out there and he's Scott. You see 85 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: someone in person and you see their build and how 86 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: they move, and it's just different than than seeing them 87 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: on TV or something. Just walk us through kind of 88 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: your evaluation in him, what you saw and why you 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: liked them enough to draft them. Yeah, you know, when 90 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: you getting those later rounds, you're really relying on your 91 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: area scouts to see just a couple traced. I think 92 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: because could translate to this level and with him like 93 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: he's long, long arms, tall, and like I said, a 94 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: really smooth athlete and runs well. So we need some 95 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: of these younger corners to really step up. We're gonna 96 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: have great competition at that spot. We need a lot 97 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: of corners in this league. You just do. You gotta cover. 98 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: I know we signed j. C. Jackson, but we need 99 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: more than just our core group. We got a Russian cover, 100 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: we have some rushers. We got to cover better. And 101 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: those young guys are gonna have to come through Dean's 102 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: shoone well Taylor from Wake Forest to show him really well, 103 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: so when other guys have to, they'll get a big opportunity. 104 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: That preseason games or this guys are gonna play a lot. 105 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm assuming you know JC and those guys 106 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: not as much. So those guys got to take a step, 107 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: but they have some of that physical skills that are 108 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: just hard to find. You know, kind of season them 109 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: developing a little bit until how far they can take it. 110 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned the transition from the Philip Rivers era to 111 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: the Justin Herbert era. Really on defense too, though you 112 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: have a completely different scheme that was being played here 113 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: from you know, the past several years to when Brandon 114 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: comes in. It's gonna take different personnel. So I don't 115 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: know if you could just speak to how different the 116 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: defense looks this year, the conservati different you guys made 117 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: both in the draft of free agency to kind of 118 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: make this defense and Brandon's image. Yeah, I mean, there's 119 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: there's different styles of defense in our league. Gus's defense 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: does a great job. It's just a different style than 121 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Brandon's defense, just like there's some other coordinators out there's 122 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: a different style. So different style of defense requires different 123 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: style of players. It's just kind of the way it works. 124 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: But last year, it's hard to turn over a roster 125 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: in one year to get everything in the Joe Lombardi 126 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: style and Ronaldo Hill style and Brandon Staley. It's just 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: just difficult to do so it took some work to 128 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: try and get there. We're closer this past offseason and 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: now like we got a lot of work to do 130 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: with these guys because we've got players, I know some 131 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: of them have some familiarity with either with the system 132 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: or with Brandon, but we're putting a lot of new 133 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: people together. There's a lot of a lot of communication 134 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: that goes down in practice ending games that we got 135 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: to work through. But I'm excited to where we are 136 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: with these guys. And even you know, adding Kyle van 137 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Noya when we did is an exciting piece. You know, 138 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: he does so many different things. You know, we call 139 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: him like a Swiss army knife. You can play outside linebacker, 140 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: can play it inside linebacker. He's so smart and instinctive, 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: just knows the game extremely well. He's tough. It's been 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: an environment that wins, so adding some key parts there 143 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: this defense is exciting. You mentioned how versatile he is, 144 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: and I know when you signed him you talked about 145 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: the experience, the championship, pedigree, the lead, you know, all that, 146 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: the leadership, all of that. I've just I've seen him 147 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: now two days in a row. It's just all been inside. 148 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Is he kind of like a is that where you 149 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: think he's going to play most of his snaps or 150 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: is it a break in case of emergency on the outside, 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Like what do you think the vision is for him? Yeah, 152 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of a work in progress because when we 153 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: signed him, it really was because he can do a 154 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of different things. We're looking for some more help 155 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: on the edge, and he's done that, but we also 156 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: always played inside, So through the course of this season, 157 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: more than likely he's gonna be playing both spots and 158 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: we'll just kind of figure out where it goes. He 159 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: took a lot of snaps outside and OTAs he's taking 160 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: some more snaps inside here. We'll gotta figure out the 161 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: thing with him. Like you can put him anywhere, get 162 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: him a little bit of work, he'll be ready to go. 163 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: I mean, he's really fun to watch practice because he's 164 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 1: just so smart. He was calling things out. He sees 165 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: things quickly. So but yeah, he's gonna have a role. 166 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: It just doesn't matter of where it's gonna be. He's 167 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: gonna be on the field. Though we talk about right 168 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: tack well. Obviously he's been a topic of conversation among fans, 169 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: and I think people are excited about Trey Pipkins and 170 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: you know Stolen Norton's obviously. Back when you drafted Trey 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, he was a guy that wasn't expected 172 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: making any immediate impact, small school kid. Now that we're 173 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: here in year four, UM, I don't know if you 174 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: could just take us through what you've seen this offseason. 175 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Seems like he's been working allowed on his own to 176 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: get ready for twenty twenty two. Yeah, that's uh. I mean, 177 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to like about Trey, but 178 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: he's got great drive and determination to be a great player. 179 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, he had some development to do when we 180 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: took him, when we knew that, but last year when 181 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: he got a chance to go in and play in 182 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: the regular season games, he really showed out. He played 183 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: really well. Kansas City, Kansas See was one of them 184 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: playing going as good rushers. So it storm Norton did 185 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: a heck of a job for us last year. I 186 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: think you know, when you play outside in this league, 187 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: you against some of these pass rushers, it's not an 188 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: easy task. Um, he held his own for us and 189 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: play some really good football, especially in the middle of 190 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the season. Um, we against some really good people. So 191 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, those two guys will playing with each other. Um, 192 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: kind of see where it goes from there. You know, 193 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: that's like training camp is for some guys. It's it's 194 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: probably a little more important than others, certainly different roles, 195 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where we are with But those 196 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: guys are need a lot of work. We've got Dallas 197 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: coming in with really good players. So let's see how 198 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I played out. They're both going to play more than 199 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: likely and some sort of role. Um. So, but I'm 200 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: excited about both those guys. Is that is it limited 201 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: to those two? Because I mean obviously we know when 202 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you drafted you know Jamar Sawyer he played tackle and guard. 203 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: You drafted him as he played tackle. Is it? Are 204 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: they in the mix of all? Or is it really 205 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: just tray and store? Right right now? Those two, those 206 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: two guys are working. You know, who knows moving forward 207 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: if you start moving some guys around, we would never 208 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: limit it and say no, um right now, just those 209 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: two guys, they're kind of splitting their reps with the 210 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: ones and with the two. Is really you know, don't 211 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: forget what with Storm Storm is it? You know developmental 212 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: player too? I mean he had one training camp before 213 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: he went to the AAF and played one full season 214 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: there and they came in here and won a job 215 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: and you know, the heck of a job for us 216 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: last year. I want to go go back to the 217 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: rookies and you know, special teams, you have a new coordinator, 218 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: a lot of energy out there by the way, with 219 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: your your new charter, a lot of fun to watch. 220 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: But you know you've always kind of had that stand 221 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: out almost you know, all pro Pro Bowl player be it, 222 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, Desubner, Derek Watt, and you know last year 223 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: Niman certainly flash, but Xander Horvath and just kind of 224 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: his pedigree, right, former linebacker converted to a fullback, moves 225 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: really well. Is that kind of are we reading that right? 226 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Is that kind of like that Derek Watt? That that 227 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: you're looking forward to get back on this roster? Well, 228 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: the fullback position at least with our team. And it's 229 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of way the league has gone. You have to 230 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: be a good special team or just because you don't 231 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: have enough snaps as a true fullback to really carry 232 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: to dress on game day. So if you can't contrue 233 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: as special teams, you're probably not dressing. We'll have to 234 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: use somebody else in the backfield, whether it's another tight end, 235 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: throw a guard back there, I don't know, but so 236 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what Derek and that was one 237 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons why we love Derek Watts. We felt 238 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: like he could be a good special team or with 239 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: all these college players, you just don't really know because 240 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: there's so much like like Derek and with Zander. They've 241 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: got the size of strength, the speed, and the will 242 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: and the want to, but it's that awareness and instincts 243 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: of covering kicks and punch that you just don't get 244 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: in the college level. First of all, the punt game 245 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: is completely different in our level than is in college. 246 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: But there's so much feel and awareness that you need 247 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: at this level on special teams that has to be developed. 248 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: Whether here that Derek Watt was not the special teams 249 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: player his rookie year that he was at the end, 250 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: he really came along and became a Pro Bowl player 251 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: at it. So we need to find out in the 252 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: preseason which of our guys can do that. You know, 253 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: Nick Neiman did a great job for us last year. 254 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: OTAs you can't see a whole lot as far as 255 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: who can cover who can you can see up here 256 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: how they kind of especially in the punt team, how 257 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: they process. But we'll know in the preseason. But yeah, 258 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: for the fullback spot, you've got to be able to 259 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: con cheer there. You just can't get a uniform. How 260 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: important is DeAndre Carter not only special teams but the 261 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: fact that you could probably play him a wide receiver 262 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: in spots. Yeah, super excited to sign him. And Lewis Clark, 263 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: our pro director, came down in my office the one 264 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: day is like, hey, you know, DeAndre is still out there, 265 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: and he had a great year at the Redskins last 266 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: year dual punt or dual returner, but they use him 267 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: on offense probably maybe the most of his career, and 268 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: he really produced play four or five toes shows. Yeah, 269 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: you know he Sometimes players just need an opportunity, you know, 270 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: to get down the field, and especially if you're a 271 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: really good special teams player, sometimes you get type cast 272 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: as that and then you don't get used as much 273 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: on offense. But what we saw so far in the 274 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: spring is is we think there can be a role 275 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: for him on offense as well. I mean, he's going 276 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: to be hopefully when our return job but he can 277 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: get some snaps on offense in the slot. Even outside. 278 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: He's quick, he's fast, he can separate. He has some 279 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: production last year with with the Redskins. I don't know 280 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: how how deep you want to get into it, but 281 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: but coach addressed it, you know, pretty straightforward yesterday said 282 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: durwe's out here, he's coaching, he's excited. But until that 283 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: contract's done, you know, you're what you see is what 284 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna get. Kind of what you share with us. 285 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: We're taping this on Thursday morning, after after practice, after 286 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: training camp. Anything you can kind of share with us 287 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: about how you feel about where that all is and 288 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: when we might see Darwin put a helmet on. Yeah, 289 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you'd like everybody out here working, 290 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: but it's just, you know, it is what it is like. 291 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: It's not something that that's new in this league. So 292 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: it's just it's such a process we got to work through. 293 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna be here, you know, we all love and 294 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: we want him here. We just got to figure out 295 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: on our end how to make sure if we get 296 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: that done, make sure he gets what he deserves. And 297 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: then it's our job to figure out how we build 298 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: everything around it. But it's a process with contracts. I 299 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: hate when it you're into summer and training camp, but 300 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: when you do an extension, sometimes this happens where it 301 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: gets to this point of the season. But it's nothing 302 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: we haven't been through before. We'll get it figured out. 303 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: Is it's similar to Joey. It feels like at least 304 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: the timing right now is sort of so. The one 305 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: thing with with Joey and then even with Keenan is 306 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: is we were in that pandemic time too, so a 307 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that you want to do in the 308 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: spring you couldn't do right, so that that kind of 309 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: affected those two. But yeah, every now and then, if 310 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: you're doing extension, sometimes it goes into training camp. That's 311 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: just the way it is. And the type of player 312 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: that he is, that's just kind of way it worked out. 313 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: But we'll get it figured out, hopefully sooner than later, 314 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: and I get him ready to go. But as you 315 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: can see, you know what a great teammate he is. 316 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I say, when you when you have 317 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: classy guys and everybody knows what it is, it doesn't 318 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: mean it's a intertraction, no, And usually you get things 319 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: figured out. Yeah, we'll get to it now. A couple 320 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, The Athletic released a podcast about Andrew 321 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Luck and I managed to burn through it. It was 322 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: so good. We were talking before you came on. You 323 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: mentioned you listened to it too, so at least you 324 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: have that reference what we talked about it for like 325 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: an hour in the middle of John, I got a 326 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: little geek on it, and I got geeked because a 327 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: it's a great podcast and I'll plug it again by 328 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Zach Kiefer and the Athletic. Y'all should listen to it. 329 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: It's it's just an incredible story about as I mentioned 330 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: on that pod, the best college football player I've ever 331 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: watched in my life, and I got a chance to 332 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: see him quite a bit. But as I'm listening through 333 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: those six episodes, one occurred to me that you were 334 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: a major part of the decision makers that decided we're 335 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: going to move on from a guy that's as much 336 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: a face of a franchise as any face of the 337 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: franchise in the history of football, and we're going to 338 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: draft the guy that's an unknown. I mean, the prospect 339 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: is great. If you do you mind kind of talking 340 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: about what that because you've done it with Philip now 341 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and we started drawing all these parallels and right I did. 342 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: I did, and I'll plug it too. I thought I 343 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: was outstanding. Yeah, Um, I had. I had listened to 344 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: very few podcasts. This one just has a menterest. I 345 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: listened to the first like ten fifteen minutes, and I 346 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: got hooked and I listened to the whole thing. It 347 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: was neat for me because I was there for you know, 348 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: one year of that that process, but just kind of 349 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: thinking back up things that happened and things that went on, 350 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: and I thought it's just so well done, so detail 351 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: it was great. Um. But yeah, I mean it's almost 352 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: unprecedented way that whole situation set up, especially with with 353 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: with with Peyton's injury at the time, which is just 354 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: so unpredictable. You know how it was going to turn out, Um, 355 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: thank god to turn out one up. We could keep 356 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: on playing, but you know I can. At time, you 357 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: just you just didn't know. And obviously we had, you know, 358 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: the first pick of the draft, and you know Andrew 359 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: Lux available and by the way, RG three, I was 360 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: an outstanding college football player. I mean I loved them 361 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: and went to saw him live twice as June assume 362 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: as his junior year down at Baylor and Washington gave 363 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: up a haul. Yeah to move to two. I mean really, 364 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean loved them, m but you know, you got 365 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: two guys there because they even I think at the 366 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: end of the year we lost our last game of 367 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the year. I think there was a chance if we 368 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: won that last team we could have the second pick, 369 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: you know. But we loved RG three two. But um 370 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: but to see Andrew that first year and to see 371 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: how that team played together behind a rookie quarterback, with 372 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: the team that was really you know, Bill Point had 373 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: been let go, Ryan Grigson had come in. Um, so 374 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: the team changed a lot, and we had, you know, 375 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: new coaching staff. We had players from all over the place, 376 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: and we have a rookie quarterback. And then our head 377 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: coach gets sick and he's out and Bruce arians and 378 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: now the interim head coach, and you know, we got 379 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who just never wavered. You know, he 380 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: was just so good from the neck up and then 381 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: just you know, physically just so talented. You know. But 382 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was just a fascinating podcast. I love 383 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: I love the history of football, but it's even kind 384 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: of neat when I kind of look back and like, yeah, 385 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: I was part of that. I was, you know, in 386 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: in that decision process, that decision, but kind of in 387 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: the middle of that, and um, yeah, it certainly an 388 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: interesting time to look back on. Well, the parallels in 389 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: this league, I mean like ten years later, eight years 390 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: later or whatever it is. The Chargers go from Philip 391 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Rivers to Justin Herbert, two guys from the PAC twelve 392 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: and Luck and Herbert highly intelligent. Sky's the limit and 393 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: here we are with it with Justin Herbert near three. 394 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: The only difference the money I were talking about the 395 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: offensive line. Here you've made a concerted effort to get 396 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: guys around to protect justice. Now you have to you know, 397 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: you learn from history. But it's funny you look back 398 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: at like like when Dan Faust is here and he 399 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: played for one, you know, I don't even know, fourteen 400 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: fifteen years. Then they had like a gap there, like 401 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: three or four years until they got to stand Humphreys, 402 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: like three or four years for a GM. Like if 403 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: there's that long of a gap, they're gonna somebody else 404 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: would be in my chair Stain Huphres came in, they 405 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: go to a Super Bowl, then another gap again before 406 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: they got through the Drew Brees Um Philip Rivers era. 407 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, luckily we didn't have that bigger gap between 408 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers era and now Justin Herbert. But you know, 409 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: quarterbacks make your team go, but they're so hard to 410 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: find and you do need some luck involved too. Pall Nope, Yeah, 411 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: probably the pun which you know the Colts had. I mean, 412 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: the Colts had great success and then one year they've 413 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the number one pick Andrew luck Is you know, coming 414 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: out in the draft. So um. But yeah, it's just 415 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: it's just you know that's watching this team from from 416 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: the you know, I guess early seventies to now, and 417 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: the quarterback play has been incredible with like two gaps, 418 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, we um. I was wondering, and I 419 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: don't know this, this is me speculating, but I said 420 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: I wonder just because everybody that I've been around, that's 421 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: been around Andrew luck just they gush about the individual 422 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: and the person, and I didn't look. I know, you 423 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: want the team to be successful, but there is something 424 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: about you know, when you feel that connection and you 425 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: feel like this is a special human being. I'm gonna 426 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: do everything I can to take care of them because 427 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: he's taking care of us. If there and I wondered 428 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: if that went into just the way you immediately built 429 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line after Justin's first year. And I'm sure 430 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: you would have done it anyway, but if there were ties, 431 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: hey we can spend this money here, or we can 432 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: draft this person here. But man, there's Zion Johnson and 433 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: we've got Justin Herbert. Did that come into play? And 434 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: do you think what you saw that first year from 435 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: Andrew that may have kind of given you perspectives, but 436 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt. And you've seen it with other 437 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks when they come in the league. They don't 438 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: have great protection and their clock has a speed up 439 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: realier in their career. You know, things aren't always pretty, 440 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, you learn from your past experiences. So we 441 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: want to make sure we have people around our quarterback. 442 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: And that's why Corey lins We was such a big 443 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: signing for us to pair our young quarterback with a 444 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: veteran center who's so smart and a great football player, 445 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: and those two worked together. I was telling the team 446 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: the first day when we met you know I made 447 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: some comparisons to the early Bills and the early nineties 448 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, which if you're thirty years and under, they 449 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: weren't even alive when they played. But but I was 450 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: just talking about when you know, Jim Kelly early in 451 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: his career that builds US signed a big time for 452 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: Asian at the time, Kent Hole from the USFL. And 453 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: they signed Kent because of his intangibles. He was so 454 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: smart and they ran the no huddle offense and him 455 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: and Jim would work together on that to move that 456 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: and that center quarterback relationship is so important. So it's 457 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: so you know, when Corey was available the guy to 458 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: pair our quarterback with our young quarterback, that was so important. 459 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: And then just you gotta protect them and you got 460 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: to have some semblance of a run game to make 461 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: sure you don't have to drop back and throw at 462 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: fifty sixty times a game. It's funny. So like that 463 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: was the other in that podcast I think we were 464 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: talking about. I said it was. I think it was 465 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: David Shaw that was telling the story. He's, like, you know, 466 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Andrews such a humble guy. He won't say a bad 467 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: word about anyone, and Finally, I just said to him, 468 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: what do you need, Like, just tell me something. You're 469 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: getting killed out there. And he said, well, you know, 470 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: play action doesn't work if you can't run the ball. 471 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, here's Tom who was drafted 472 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: a running back every single year. And again, I'm wondering 473 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: if you're just kind of thinking back to how much 474 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: that helps out your quarterback. You look back like I 475 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: look back at the experience because obviously I was I 476 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: was an intern with the Bills, but I kind of 477 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: saw how that was built. And then it was the 478 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers when they were an expansion team. I saw 479 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: how that was built, and then a long time with 480 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: the Colts. And you really can't You can't copy or emulate. 481 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: And I hate to do that because it just doesn't work. 482 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: But you have to kind of take your own experiences 483 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: in the fact. But yeah, you look back at different 484 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: styles and what work, what didn't work, and yeah, we 485 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: need to protect our quarterback, but we gotta be able 486 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: to run the ball when you have to run it. 487 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, when we have a lead in the fourth quarter, 488 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: we've gotta be able to run the ball in the 489 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: last four minutes to close games out. I mean, you 490 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: close games out with pass rushers, but we also close 491 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: it out with our run game in the fourth quarter, 492 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: so that all comes hand in hand. You gotta win 493 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: up front. Brandon said that probably from his first press 494 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: conference on you know, offensive line of defensive line. We 495 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: got to win up front. We're closer to that now 496 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: than we were a couple of years ago. We're closer 497 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: that now we were last year. But yeah, I mean, 498 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: when you have a franchise quarterback that's gonna be here 499 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: a long time, we have to invest in people around them, 500 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: and it can't just be receivers and running backs. We've 501 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: kept you a long time. Last one for me, I 502 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: remember twenty seventeen because I got like six more. All right, 503 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: want to see him pitting? You don't roast in the sun. 504 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: We did this in twenty seventeen. I think it's like 505 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the first or second podcast we've ever done a Chargers weekly, 506 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: and this is when the team moved up here. We're 507 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: doing in that tenth that you mentioned you fast forward 508 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two. I'm not saying it just because 509 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: it's a prisoner. At the moment. There is a buzz 510 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: around this team among the fans. I think the fan 511 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: base from what we've seen in twenty seventeen to now, 512 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: the excitement with all the players that have come in 513 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: justin you name it. People are very excited about this team. 514 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I know every year is a new beginning for you, 515 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: but do you feel that kind of buzz among the 516 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: fan base right now? I think I do. I'm I'm 517 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: a huge proponent up training camp. I think because when 518 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I was a kid, my dad would take me at 519 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: training camps. There's nothing better coming out in here to 520 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: be closer players and watching practice. I used to love it. 521 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: So I love when I'm pulling up here in the morning. 522 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: This is see the lines of people lined up to 523 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: come out watch us practice, and it's I asked to 524 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: act someone just before I over, I said, is are 525 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: there more people here now this day three or four 526 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: years ago? Are you seeing it grow? And they said yes, 527 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of see it. Yeah, Um, you know, 528 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: but I'm here. I'm not over by the stands. But 529 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: just to see the excitement. I lovel how our players 530 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: interact with the fans. It's a big part of being 531 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: a professional players interacting with the fans. Um and our guys. 532 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: We don't have to beg them to do it. I 533 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: mean they're over the fence. I mean just I think 534 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: yesterday they running backs are maybe signing or tight ends, 535 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: not quarterbacks, but Justin's over there signing and seeing fans. So, um, yeah, 536 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: you can feel it. And I think you know, anytime 537 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: you have an offense or an offseason where you signed 538 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and signed JC Jackson, us like names that 539 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: that fans. Yeah, so that kind of ramps it up 540 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: a little bit rather than us. You know, you bring 541 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: in a player that we really love, but maybe it 542 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: doesn't have the name recognition and that's not how you 543 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: really build a team. But you know, hey, there's there's 544 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: some players on here that they're really excited about. We're 545 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: excited about it too, um. And I think people can 546 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: see our growth from the last couple of years. I 547 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: mean last year, you know, we're a game from the playoffs. 548 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: Mid December, we're playing for buy in the playoffs, right, 549 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: and that we just faded down the stretch. So that 550 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: was a big part of this offseason is is you know, 551 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: what do we need to do to not fade in December? 552 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: That was just so disappointing. Um, but you know, did 553 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: what we could this offseason. We'll keep working on it 554 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: all right, last thing and you can get out of 555 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: the sun. You can answer this quickly if you want. 556 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: But you know, we've seen joint practices become more and 557 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: more important with the lack of reps in game. You 558 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: mentioned all these big names you've signed. It's it's all. 559 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know five maybe new starters on defense, Like, 560 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: can you give us an idea of what you and 561 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: coach and the staff have talked about. How do we 562 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: do enough but not too much in this preseason to 563 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: make sure all these new pieces are good. It's the 564 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: holy grail. Yeah, you know, choose wisely. Yeah, I mean 565 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: you have to you have to practice. You got to 566 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: grind in practice, m but you got to find that balance. 567 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I love the combined practices and we do 568 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: it with with with people who really respect Um. Getting 569 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and AERI will be great. I mean they 570 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. Um, Mike mccarthur's a job, 571 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: and we can get a lot of work and a 572 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: little bit more controlled environment. You know, the tempo is 573 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: higher than practice but less than a game, and then 574 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: we can adjust things to spased on position groups in 575 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: case you have some you know, maybe some muscle injuries. 576 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, because preseason game, once that ball is kicked off, 577 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: there's no adjusting anything, so we can kind of do 578 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: it on our own terms here against good people at 579 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: a higher tempo than practice. So I love it. You know, 580 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: we did with the Saints for a number of years. 581 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: That was awesome. I love being able to watch other 582 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: teams players up close live. I never get a chance 583 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: to do that. You know, you can't get anybody else's practices. 584 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: But that is a big part of the NFL nowadays, 585 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: is these combined practices because you just don't want to 586 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: expose too many guys in preseason games and then you've 587 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: got the preseason games really come down to players who 588 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: need to work to try to earn a role and 589 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: give them a lot of snaps rather than you know, 590 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: say a player goes in and gets you know, five 591 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: or six snaps. I'm in a preseason game for young players. 592 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: So that's the way we'll probably handle it, probably pretty 593 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: similar to last year, and hopefully that works out. I 594 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: think it will. I love it. Tom. Would you consider 595 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: wearing the Oakley equivalent of those to the Cowboys, the 596 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: pit Vipers. I just don't think I can pull it off. 597 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: I know I can't pull off that bucket. There's no 598 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: way Jarrold pulls him off, Durwe pulls him off. I 599 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: think you can pull him off. And we're back in 600 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo this summer a lot everywhere. I couldn't believe it. 601 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen one out here. One one style 602 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: in my blood clearly, and I hate that. There's video 603 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: on my Skinny Legs Club. I'm the president of the 604 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: Skinny Legs Club. This is going to be a miserable 605 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: video for me. All right, Tom, you're cooking in your 606 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Diehard Bowl Club shirt. You're the best. Thank you, appreciate 607 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: thanks having me on. Absolutely appreciate. Yeah. Well, it's always 608 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: fun to have Tom on during camp and a lot 609 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: of good insight. And hey, he agreed with everything you 610 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: said regarding that lump. I was I was right about 611 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: all of that, and I was wrong about how he 612 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: would react. He was all in. But I think it 613 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 1: speaks to and Luck. I hope it wasn't too Andrew 614 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Lucky in the pod for all the Charger fans. But 615 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: I bring it up and I draw the parallels because 616 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: I think you can hear when Tom talks about Andrew, 617 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: like how just emotionally invested and excited he gets. And 618 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: that's what Justin Herbert does, and that's what he means 619 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: to a team. And I think that's kind of the 620 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: point that I was trying to convey and why you 621 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: know Andrew and listening to that pod and recognizing the 622 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: success of the Colts and how many people at the 623 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: end of that pod we're saying, man if if he 624 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: doesn't retire, remember that team made a run the last year. 625 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: It was the best season he'd ever had. We're talking 626 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: about probably a super Bowl team. And I think that's 627 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of where a lot of this conversation is now 628 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: with the Chargers and with all the people we're seeing 629 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: out here at training camp. I think there's absolute reason 630 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: for all the excitement around around the country about what 631 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: this team can do. And you said it starts up 632 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: front that offensive line and watching I don't know, if 633 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: you see the video of Corey Linsley, everyone's thinking happy 634 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: birthday to him. Who team When you see the team 635 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: come out, you see Slater in Zion and Filer. They're 636 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: starting to become like household names and then like you know, 637 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: like you think of like some of those Cowboys teams 638 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: and those Redskins teams in the eighties where like there 639 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: was like those signature dudes, right like I can see Slater, Jonson, Filer, Lindsley, 640 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: Like those are the names you're going to hear for 641 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: the next several years, no doubt. And I mean, look 642 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: at everybody knows and Tom said it in that conversation. 643 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, the one thing that you know sometimes you 644 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: don't get until the pads come on is defensive offensive line. 645 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: And that's that's where the money's made. You know, that's 646 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: where the success comes, that's where the championships are won. 647 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for those joint practices to have Slater 648 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons, to have Zion Johnson and Aaron Donald 649 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: and kind of get through those matchups and see that 650 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: competition and how these guys are holding up. It's going 651 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun because without pads, you know, 652 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: what are we doing. We're talking about Dean Leonard being 653 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: sticky and Xander of Warbath looking good on special teams 654 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: and moving well like and it's great, but it's you know, 655 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: we got we got another week before we can get 656 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: rid our next pot. I think we're going to have 657 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a higher level of excitement about 658 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: what we're watching up. It's a great segue because it's 659 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: day to a camp and Tom's right, the defense always 660 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: ahead of the offense. I kind of all that, Oh yeah, Um, 661 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: is there anything that you took out of the first 662 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: two days of practice like that? It's hard too, So 663 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: it one is you know, I feel like it's it's 664 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: first team all height, but like I like, you know, 665 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: the special teams, our new special teams. Coaches. You know, 666 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: there's there's an energy there and there's you know, when 667 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: you're seeing just sort of how much time is being spent. 668 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything against coach Swinton from last year, 669 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: but just kind of I've been over on that side 670 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: of the field and watching it and watching the operation. 671 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: I had the old stop watch out yesterday, and I 672 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: know there's no rush that it's not a heavy rush, 673 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: but I'm watching, you know, time from snap to punt, 674 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: hang time on punts for JK like stuff like that 675 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: is gonna make a difference because it made a difference 676 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: last year. So um, and I think that's where our 677 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: conversations about Horbath and Jessia Taylor and Dean Leonard are 678 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: coming in. You know, this new group of guys that 679 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: are hopefully going to make you know, special teams of 680 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: an important component and a and a and a difference 681 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: making component of this team. Yeah, I like Tom's talking 682 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: about the right tackles and that's just another position that 683 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: when the Pets come on next week, we'll get a 684 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: much clear picture as to what that will look like 685 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: as we can get to that first place season, no doubt. 686 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: I think. Look, I told this story on the air 687 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: yesterday on Petros and Money. I said, you know, first 688 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: day out here, and you remember the numbers from last year, 689 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: but you know, for me, fifty two is Denzil Paraman. 690 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: You know, it just was that way for so long. 691 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: What's so coaching? Yes, it's a podcast, but it's fine. 692 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: People love this, Yeah, they love when they know that 693 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of it. And I know, I said, 694 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: the good thing that's That's exactly what I said to Tom. 695 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: It's like, I look like an idiot, but everybody knows 696 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. So it's was Shane Rock and flip flops, 697 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: my guy, Well, you know what happens. This is two 698 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: inside them. It makes your feet wider. So when you 699 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: wear flip flops all summer long, the second you put 700 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: on ten issues, it feels weird until because it condenses 701 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: your feet and it's you're just uncomfortable. Because I've been 702 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: wearing flip fluff for four months now. I will. I 703 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: absolutely will, Thanks coaching coach. This is always better than zoom. Right. 704 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: That is chilly comes exactly makes those of you that 705 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: haven't visited the YouTube go ahead, look, I a I'm 706 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: literally if I were to put my legs together, I 707 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: am so. I am so president of the skinny leg Club. 708 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean this literally, Kyle van Noise, one of his 709 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: legs is wider than two of mine. Condensed because I've 710 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: gotten bird legs. That genetics that were passed on to 711 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: me from my father's side of the family sat like I 712 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: I didn't get my mom's side, the Eastern we you know, 713 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: my mom's side of the family, Croatian, Hungarian, big blockheaded, 714 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: Eastern Europeans, thick trunks, my old man's freaking Irish, English, 715 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: French and all skinny leg and I got that freaking 716 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: genetic Well, if you see me tomorrow. This is Thursday. 717 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: If you see me on Friday, I'm scorching right now. 718 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very red. Yeah, we better, we better 719 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: cut it off. Let's let's wrap it up right next week. 720 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Ye Fri sabbot right in the middle of the sun 721 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: here right. We love it, man, it's good to be 722 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: out here. We'll see you guys next Thursday. We'll have 723 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: another guest here in this third chair. We don't know who. 724 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Somebody goes, somebody somebody. We'll see you next time. M 725 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: h m hm.