1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Battle You. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Into Double Battle Crown. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: Live from the Parts Unknown Studios. This is the Battleground Podcast. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 4: Bottle Crowd, the Battle Cloud. 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: The Battle Your place for all things pro wrestling. 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 4: From the independent scene. 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: To w W E A, E W R O, H 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: M w A and Impact Wrestling, the hot topics, as 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: well as interviews with some of the biggest names in 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: the game. 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: The Game, the Battle Crowd, the Battle Round. 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: The Battleground Podcast starts now, carry your host, go to 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: the Battle Crowd, Battle and Eli, whoa. 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: Here we are episode number one of the Battleground Podcast, 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: and this episode is going to be a Summer Slam 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 4: n XT Takeover preview episode. Eli is with us, Eli, 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: what's up, dude? 18 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: Hello? 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: It sounds so amazing to hear that theme song, right. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Gets me hype, man, I just I want to listen 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: to it when I'm like riding my bike in the 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: neighborhood just battle. 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, it's it's it's I got goosebumps just 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: listening to it. But uh yeah. So today's a big episode. 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: We're going to be previewing Summer Slam. We're going to 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: be previewing NXT Takeover, and we have a special guest 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: from Comic book dot Com. Connorcasey is on with us. Dude, 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: what's happening man? 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Guys? Man? 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: How can you not get hype tideed intro? 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 4: Right, I sit here and like Eli said, it's it's 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: the hype thing, And if I could just get the 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: guy singing the song, I think we'll be okay. 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: So let's let's kind of dive into uh, letting everybody 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: meet Connor. So tell us a little bit about what 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: you do over at comicbook dot com. 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: So we cover mainly WWE and AEW. You'll find us 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: doing live coverage of raw n XT Dynamite SmackDown every 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: pay per view. We're interviewing some of the biggest names 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: from both of the major companies. We're branching out into 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: companies like Ring of Honor an Impact. I recently just 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: talked to the Good Brothers talking about everything. This was 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: right after Slammiversary, but we're hoping to get more of 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: those and yeah, and you know, some of you may 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: be like me where you have to go to six 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: different websites to find out where all the different inside 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: scoops are coming from and what people are saying well, 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: we try to bring that all into one place, so 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: you only have to go to one website for. 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: It, Hice. And you know, everybody should check out comic 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: book dot com because you can find a story that 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: is on there that was you know, a past guest 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: on this show was featured on Comic book dot com, which, 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: by the way, thank you so much for putting that 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: up on the website for us. 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that was a good that was really fun interview. 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that one. 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was pretty awesome to talk to FTR. 61 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: And it's just crazy to hear, you know, about the 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: doctor leaving the button in his knee and then you know, 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: just hearing their time in w W and then so. 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Here, here's my thing. Since we know that the knee 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: is fine, do we think the button story is legit? 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: That's a good question because he, I mean, he sold 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: that pretty well. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: It's a weirdly specific story. 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with him, is it was? It was? 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: It was such an odd thing to say, you know, 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: like so yeah, I don't know, and I mean I've 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: heard of mishaps. You know, people will go back here 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: in a couple of years later and find a you know, 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: you know, pocket watch inside there, you know, just all 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: kinds of weird craps. So I wasn't expecting that when 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: he started telling the story though, I. 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: Was expecting it to be like, you know, he left 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 4: a piece of bone fragment or something, not a button 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: from his pants, like you know, and. 80 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: I heard somebody they had left like a a drill bit. 81 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: I guess they had to use a drill for like 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: a knee surgery. And then like a drill bit had 83 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: fallen in there, and same kind of thing. Like three 84 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: years later they opened them up, like, oh, that's that 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: drill bit I lost. 86 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, you never know, but you know, and then 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: you watch Dynamite on Wednesday night and it's like, Okay, 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: he's in there nursing that knee, so maybe his knee 89 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: is jacked up. But then of course they tack the 90 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: legends of the Rock and Roll Express. Potentially we could 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: see them in a tag team match if you go 92 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: back and listen to the interview. FTR really wants a 93 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: tag team match against the Rock and Roll Express, but 94 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: they wanted for the NWA Tag Team titles. But that's 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: a different story for a different podcast. But like we 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: said at the beginning, we're gonna be kind of previewing 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: the upcoming Summer Slam and NXT Takeover. The NXT Takeover 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: card is pretty stacked, but the two matches that we're 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: going to kind of dive in right now is the 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 4: ones that everybody's talking about. We're gonna talk about Adam 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: Cole versus Pat McAfee is the first one, and then 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about Carry and Cross versus Keith Lee. 103 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: So let's kind of jump into this. What is your 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: first thought when you see on paper Adam Cole versus 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: Hunter Pat McAfee. 106 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: I'll chime in, just because I haven't been watching. The 107 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: only thing that I can think of is just either 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: they didn't have an immediate plan for Adam Cole, or 109 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: the plan for him starts after this, like you know, 110 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: October November or something, and they're like, Okay, well, let's 111 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: let's throw him in this program with McAfee, who is 112 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: kind of a mainstream name. I think, you know, more 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: people outside the wrestling bubble probably know at least his name, 114 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: So I think I think it was just a kind 115 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: of a promotion thing in the sense that like, let's 116 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: put our top guy with McAfee to kind of build 117 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: up his stock and maybe get some mainstream press and 118 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So I'm hoping it's just a one 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: time kind of thing. But like I didn't even know 120 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: that McAfee would have been training, and to put him 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: in there with Adam Cole, who's probably you know, one 122 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: of the ten in the world right now, Like it's 123 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: it's just weird all around, but you know, it could 124 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: just be a you know, do it to kind of 125 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: get some buzz type of a deal. 126 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: So, right, what do you think, Connor? 127 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: I paused earlier because I'm trying to be nice about 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: this one. 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: I think, uh, hold on this one, man, just go 130 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: for it. 131 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think they must think the world 132 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: of Cole if they're gonna put him in this situation 133 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: where he's got to carry a complete rookie into a 134 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: match on a show that is known for never having 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: a bad match. Right, So he's absolutely he's absolutely the 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: guy that can do it. I don't doubt that for 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: a second. And credit to Pat for kind of being 138 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: an unlikable prick throughout this whole thing like he's at. 139 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: When I first heard, I was like, wait, are they're 140 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna tell us we're supposed to root for Patt and 141 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: then I watch, you know, his radio show, and I 142 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: watched when he showed up on comments. He's like, Nope, nope, 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: he's the bad guy in this. I'm supposed to be 144 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: rooting for Adam here. 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's it's crazy to see because it's like 146 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: you think back to many times that WW is like 147 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: let's put some you know, NFL players in there or whatever. 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: You know, Lawrence Taylor got in there with Bam Bam 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: and that was you know that, and then Carl Malone 150 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: did his stuff with the NBA, and it's like Pat 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: McAfee and he's a big wrestling nerd like all of us, 152 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: and there's a reason why they have him doing you know, 153 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: pre shows for NXT and doing these watch parties with 154 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: the Bump and all this other stuff. But it's like, 155 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: you have Adam Cole, which, like Eli said, is probably 156 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: the top ten wrestler in the world. You have Adam Cole, 157 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: and then you're like, you know what, you just had 158 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: one hell of a run as the NXT champion. Who 159 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: do we want to put you up against? Hey, let's 160 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: get you in a match with Pat McAfee who's never 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: stepped in the ring. 162 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and has a foot of height on you. So yeah, 163 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean I do look great no matter what. 164 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a lose lose because, like 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if if McAfee wins, then a rookie in 166 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: his first match beat one of the ten best wrestlers 167 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: on the planet. And if Cole wins, all right, you're 168 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: one of the tends in the world fighting someone that's 169 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: never like I don't know, so I think they're just 170 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: banking on the buzz. I think that's that's what it is. 171 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm hoping they I guess they're hoping that they get 172 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 2: some mainstream attention or you know, different news outlets reporting 173 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: it or something. I will say this battle you you 174 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: didn't you didn't mention Mongo. 175 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: As far as well, he doesn't really count as arresting. 176 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: I think I think that was by design because he 177 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: was awful. Well, well who. 178 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Better than Mongo if you asked that Twitter account. 179 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny because like when all that happened, 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: like when he came to WCW and he got in 181 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: the Four Horsemen, that's right when I kind of got 182 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: back into it. Because I was a huge Sting fan. 183 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: So when he kind of came back as the Crow, 184 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm sold. I didn't think it 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: was that bad, and now looking back on it, like 186 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: what was I looking at? Like this is like really 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: really really bad. But anyways, yeah, So, I mean I 188 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: think I think Cole is like aj Styles. I mean, 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: he could probably pull a good match out of a 190 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: cardboard box. I don't think it's gonna be terrible, but 191 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: it's just kind of like we've been discussing, I think 192 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: the motivation behind it's kind of weird, and like like 193 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: Mattle said, I mean, longest reigning champion of all time, like, okay, 194 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: well you're gonna find a rookie now on a huge 195 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: pay per view. I hope that's okay, you know. So, 196 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: so I think it's they must have a lot of 197 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: faith in him or something. Just because it is on paper, 198 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: it seems like a strange pairing. 199 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Now you guys might have noticed this, but it feels 200 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: like in the past couple of months the some of 201 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: the tendencies of the main roster have started to leak 202 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: their way into NXT. This is like the ultimate example 203 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: of that. And I really hope it's a one time 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: thing because I don't need to see Pat McAfee in 205 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: matches every week. 206 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: No, not at all. It maybe as like a mouthpiece 207 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: for somebody or like on commentary, but like you said, 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to see Pat in a match. I 209 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: know that they put a you know, a ring in 210 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: his headquarters where he does his show, and he's been 211 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: you know, training here and there to be a wrestler, 212 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: but I just don't know if Pat can be a 213 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: wrestler or if I even want to watch it. Yep, 214 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: pretty much he has to kick down to the head. 215 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: I mean I wonder if he had to ask Randy 216 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: Orton if he could use that move? 217 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Well, who gets ownership of that move? Because it's like 218 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: Randy's like, I've been doing it for years. He's like, 219 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: I did it professionally. 220 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: What do you want? 221 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: Right? But Randy is a different entity, which we could 222 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: talk about him later in the show, because I mean, 223 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: if you follow Randy on TikTok, like he has blown 224 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: up TikTok with one video of him in an action figure. 225 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 4: But so we're gonna if you haven't seen it, you 226 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: defin't have to set that up. So we're gonna kind 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: of move on to the next match that everybody's kind 228 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: of looking forward to it NXT, and there's been a 229 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: great build up of this and it's Keith Lee versus 230 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 4: Carrying Cross for the NXT Championship. So of course carry 231 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: and Cross came in to NXT Guns of Blazing, and 232 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: you know we're big fans of him on the show, 233 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: and we know that within I would say within the 234 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: next five years, that guy is going to be a 235 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: main eventor And I've been vocally about this, I really 236 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: think if you could build this the right way, and 237 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm getting ahead of myself, if you build this the 238 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: right way, you can have a Carrying Cross and Scarlett 239 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: Bordeo versus The Fiend and Alexa and some kind of 240 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: match and just those two interests together. Just thinking about 241 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: it right now, I'm getting goosebumps. 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: Man. 243 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: You say, you guys are both fans of Killer on 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: this show, and I like Cross's work. But I got 245 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a question for both of you. What's his gimmick? What 246 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: is his stick? Because I've watched him every week on 247 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: NXT and I couldn't tell you. Is he a demon? 248 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Is he a hit man? Is he a serial killer, 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that's what what's his thing? Help me out here? 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: That is kind of a tough thing. So it does 251 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: flip for back and forth. It's like is he a demon? 252 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: One week? But then he shows up and like I 253 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 4: guess it was commentary or somebody said something about him 254 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: being like an actual hit man, you know, before he 255 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: was a wrestler, And I think they're trying to figure 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: out what they want to do with carry and cross 257 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 4: with his what his gimmick. 258 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: Is, because the entrance and whatever the hell Scarlett's doing 259 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: screams like, oh, he's like a demon or something. But 260 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: then he's then he's laughing in like a booth. When 261 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Keith wins the title and he's he's chilling out in 262 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: the car watching the one final beat match, It's like, dude, 263 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: what are you helped. 264 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Me out here? Yeah? I thought, and I mean, ultimately 265 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: my guess is the hit man angle, and because to 266 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: me that makes more sense with the TikTok, you know, 267 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: like your time is up, like I'm going to kill you, 268 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: Like it just makes more sense. But then I think 269 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: it was the I think it was the takeover where 270 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: he beat Champa Boat like they came out in all 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: the Fog and and You're right, it kind of had 272 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: echoes of like Bray White or the Undertaker, and it's like, Okay, well, 273 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: is he like a mystical assassin or like a demon 274 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: as like, I don't know, so, yeah, it is kind 275 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: of strange. I'm leaning towards more of the assassin angle, 276 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: but uh, I mean, who knows, you know, there may 277 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: be like clones of him in this next matter. I mean, 278 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I don't know who knows what they're gonna do with it, right, 279 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: And I kind of hope they stay away from some 280 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: of that supernatural stuff just because you know, like not 281 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: not every time they do it. It's like the Undertaker 282 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: sometimes it's like the Boogieyman, you know. So, like I think. 283 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Exactly, And my concern is like they don't seem to know, 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: but he's in the main event of this show and 285 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: could very well win the title, so they better find 286 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: out quick. 287 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean they're they're really high. I mean, 288 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: I think I think Jericho on his podcast was like, 289 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: he needs to be on the main roster. They need 290 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: to get him off Poenix T. He needs to and 291 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: so I think people are already like putting eyes on him. 292 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: So Yeah, that's that's gonna need to be a dress 293 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: sooner than later. 294 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's the other thing is is it 295 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: too soon for Keith to drop that title to get 296 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 4: tomorrow or this weekend? 297 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: YEP, it is. 298 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: It is way too soon, because I believe I just checked, 299 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: it would give him the shortest title reign of anybody. Yeah, 300 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: and that's not a good look for the company, and 301 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: that's not a good look for him. 302 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 303 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of like what they did with Brody Lee. 304 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: You know, he comes in, does a couple of vignettes 305 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: and then boom, he's fighting Moxley, loses, and then like, 306 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I forgot about him ntil I saw he 307 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: was fighting Cody for the TNT, you know. I mean 308 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: it just didn't do any good. And same thing with 309 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: Karen Cross, like why would you why would you sacrifice 310 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: someone as over as Keith Lee. I mean I saw 311 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: him last I think it was like last September. I 312 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: drove down to South Haven, Mississippi, because that was the 313 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: closest place NXT was around. I don't know why they 314 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: haven't been back to Nashville in a while, but anyways, 315 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: Saw went down there. He was over Matt Riddle was over. 316 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: I mean everyone, all the big stars right now, they 317 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: were over a year ago, and so like it's just 318 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of people just keep going on 319 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: about how athletic he is, and you know, he had 320 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: that moment with brock Lesner. You know, I think he's 321 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: going to be a superstar. I agree, I think, you know, 322 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: dropping it this soon would be a mistake. And then 323 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: also it's like, well, why would you put keep wanting 324 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: to say kill across carring cross in the main event 325 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: as soon if he's not gonna win because you've already 326 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, some of the booking decisions are very strange. 327 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of is just Scarlet interferes, 328 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: so he loses, but he's protected kind of a deal. 329 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: But I don't know, it would be very uncharacteristic for 330 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: them to put the belt on a new talent like 331 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: that soon, you know what I mean. 332 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: Well, they've done it before with guys like Kevin Owens, 333 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: and they love their demi god level heels and they're 334 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: very good at that. But I feel like a lot 335 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: of this could have been of if they hadn't made 336 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: Keith drop the North American title and just have Cross 337 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: feat him for. 338 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: That, right, yeah, I think yeah. And and so now 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: it's like, so let's say Cross does win, then Lee's like, well, shit, 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: I shouldn't know. I should have kept the other, you know, 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: like the does he go back towards that one or 342 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: does he go back towards Cross for a rematch? 343 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't know they finally called him up. 344 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Those two. If those are 345 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: the two main events, they're definitely head scratchers, you know. 346 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: But NXT is historically stronger well I mean it's hard 347 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: to say obviously, but you know, since they've been around, 348 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I think the NFT strong booking has been stronger than 349 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: the main roster. But these two decisions are definitely head scratchers. 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. And you look at the rest of the card 351 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: and there's only like I'm looking at it right now, 352 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: and there's only five matches so far that it's announced. 353 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: You've got the NXT Women Championship that's going on. Uh, 354 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: You've got the NXT North America Championship, which is Bronton Reed, 355 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: Damian Priest and now I believe what did velveteen Dreams 356 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: show up and he's wrestling in this the third person. 357 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 4: I think I'm not he is. 358 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: He's facing Battler next week. Winter that gets in and 359 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: so does Gargano and Rich Holland and. 360 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: I get so much crap for this, But I'm not 361 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: a fan of Gargana. Like, I don't get the fatuation 362 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: with Gargano and that could just be me. 363 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: It's just you, man, I love that guy. 364 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm in the camp with Battle. 365 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: I'm not. 366 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm not a fan either. I mean, I don't like I. 367 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: Mean, I don't hate the guy. It's just behind he's 368 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: a great worker. 369 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was just like when in the 370 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: DIY stuff. I just I was focusing on Champa more 371 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: and then when Champa finally turned on him and became 372 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: because I was at that takeover in New Orleans when 373 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: they fought I think it was their street fight in 374 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and he just walked to the ring with 375 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: no music, and I was floored. I've never seen anything 376 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: like that, and you don't really you kind of take 377 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: for granted like entrances and theme songs. He came out 378 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: to silence and it was unbelievable. And so I've just 379 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: kind of gravitated more towards Taumpa than Gargano, but you know, 380 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: I like his ring gear. 381 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, and that's totally fair. Champa has outshined him 382 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: just about in every way. But I thought he played 383 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the underdog babyface well. And I think this just kind 384 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: of you know, conniving, way too full of himself. He 385 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it works for him. 386 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot of people come around 387 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: to him now that him and Candae have kind of turned. 388 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: But but yeah, you know, there's some people just don't 389 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: gel with you. 390 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: So I think Finn needs whatever happens, Finn needs to 391 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: win this thing because the guy's been on the NXT 392 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: roster for almost a year hadn't won anything. 393 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been you know, I didn't I don't know 394 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: if I assumed that he would go down and pick 395 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: up a belt, you know, but I just figured, you know, 396 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: it felt important when he went back. You know, there's 397 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: a lot of buzz around it. And then, you know, 398 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: I thought him and Gargana had a good match. But yeah, 399 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: since then or you know, aside from that, it's like, 400 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: what is he doing down there? Just besides, you know, 401 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: I don't want to be on the main roster anymore. 402 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Well, you knew that he was supposed to get that 403 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: match with Walter, and my guess is he would have 404 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: picked up the UK belt there. But I mean, look 405 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: around and you know exactly why that can't happen. 406 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that I would love to see, you know, 407 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 4: Finn and Walter go at it because you think that 408 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 4: if anytime he gets the belt, it's going to be 409 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 4: that UK Belt from Walter and that's going to be 410 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: a hell of a match. And if if it happens 411 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one, which I'm hoping, you know everything 412 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: fingers crossed, that will probably be potential for Match of 413 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: the Year, depending on when it is. But yeah, so 414 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: moving on to SummerSlam, a lot of hype behind this. 415 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: I believe SummerSlam is now getting moved to the Amway Center. 416 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: I've been seeing videos of trucks rolling up and you know, 417 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: now WWE is kind of taking away of the NBA 418 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: and putting up you know, screens around the ring and 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: you're gonna have fans. And I was telling Eli this, 420 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, who are they gonna pay to 421 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: monitor to make sure nobody throws up like an AEW 422 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: sign or you know, does something stupid on this screen 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 4: that they're gonna have around the ring man. 424 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: Whoever they're paying, they're not paying them. 425 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: Enough, right. 426 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: I mean you just got to think because I mean 427 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 4: as many wrestling events that we've been to, you know, 428 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: you go into WWE and there's so many rules and 429 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: you know you can have this on a sign, but 430 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: you can't have this on a sign. And when we 431 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: got to go see aw when I was at Municipal, 432 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: like they took everything at the front door, signs, belts, 433 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: you name it. Everything was sitting right there at the 434 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: front because there was a box. I remember walking in 435 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: at Municipal Auditorium. There was a box and it was 436 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: full of wrestling belts that people had brought in, which 437 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: I still don't understand bringing a wrestling belt to a 438 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 4: wrestling event unless you're gonna like actually wrestle for it. 439 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: But that's just a funny joke. But I mean there 440 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: was like a Lutah underground belt there, and there was 441 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 4: a couple of the aw belts, and you know, they're 442 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: very strict on what you can bring in according to 443 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 4: signage and stuff. So that that's gonna be the interesting 444 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: thing is watching on these screens. But I think it's 445 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: gonna kind of be interesting to see now that they're 446 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: in a bigger arena, even though you know, we know 447 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: it's a bigger arena, but it's like, how I'm interested 448 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: to see how this is going to look. 449 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I just like the fact that we're 450 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: getting out of the Performance Center. Honestly, I think we 451 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: needed a desperately needed a change of scenery. I think 452 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: this the virtual fan thing works. It's it's not it's 453 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: not a perfect one to one replacement, but it's done 454 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: the job for other sports. So I I'm at least 455 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: excited to see what they can pull off. 456 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be a very interesting thing. And of 457 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: course I think I want to say what this week 458 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: I think is still taped. 459 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I think everything after next raw will be in the amlay, 460 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: so the raw after. 461 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: SUMMERLA got it, so so that will be a very 462 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: interesting thing to see. So now we're kind of going 463 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: into the summer Slam lineup and the card. You've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 464 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: eight matches as of right now, And of course we're 465 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: recording this on Sunday, the podcast release on Monday, so 466 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 4: of course there'll be something that probably comes up on 467 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: Monday Night Rawl and you know, smack Down this week, 468 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: so they'll probably be more added, So we'll kind of 469 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: jump into the we'll just kind of go from top 470 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: to the bottom and looking at it. Signya de Villa 471 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: versus Mandy Rose and a hair versus hair match. So 472 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 4: what's what do you think about how everything's been playing 473 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: out between these two guys. 474 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: I think Mandy's definitely keeping her hair. That's that's my guess. 475 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: But I like that. I like this as a story 476 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: that's gone on for a while. It just feels like 477 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: we've been sitting around waiting for the actual match and 478 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: here it finally is. 479 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a you know, they kind of came 480 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: in hot, and you know, I kind of thought that 481 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: they were going to be some of the new faces 482 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: of the women's division and then they've kind of slid 483 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: a little bit and then they broke up and then 484 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: the otis stuff, and so yeah, it's been drawn out. 485 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: I agree. I don't I don't see Mandy cutting her hair, Sonya. 486 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: It just she's got a little bit more edge to her, 487 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: so I could see her, you know, maybe getting a 488 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, Ruby riot, but kind of cut or 489 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, yeah, you know so. But I mean 490 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad that they're still getting attention, and you know, 491 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: they haven't kind of been lost on the shuffle and stuff, 492 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: so you know, it should be pretty good. But they 493 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: they've both improved a lot since they got to the 494 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: main roster, so. 495 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Sonya us lose 496 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: this match. She gets her hair done and we see 497 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: her on Raw Underground. That could because I she has 498 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: the fighting mentality, and as much as we want all 499 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: to see Ronda and Shanea go at it, I think 500 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: that this will be kind of like a test for Shana, 501 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 4: especially with Sonya's MMA background a little bit. So we'll see, 502 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: you know, Sonya and shanea go at it, and then 503 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 4: maybe finally we'll see the fact that Ronda shows up. 504 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to see Ronda on Raw Underground, but 505 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: I mean, Sonya would probably be a good fit in 506 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: Raw Underground with her and Shana. 507 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be good. 508 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: So I agree with you guys, I don't I don't 509 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 4: see Mandy losing her hair, especially since she just cut it, 510 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: which really basically she just took the ex extensions out. 511 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 4: But you know, it is what it is. I'm still 512 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 4: figuring out this whole Otis thing. I completely forgot the 513 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: other night watching that he was the Money of the 514 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: Bank Champion. 515 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: I think they forgot that. 516 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was it was weird because you go 517 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: back and think about it, and it was like, Okay, 518 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: you threw Alistair and ray Masterio off the building, and 519 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: this is like back when Hogan threw Big Show off 520 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 4: the building, and all of a sudden he just shows 521 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: up the next nine. It's like okay, and then Otis 522 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: wins it and it's like, what do you do? And 523 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: of course, you know, he says he's going to use 524 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: it for the tag team titles, and of course his 525 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: partner's heard. So it's still weird and up in the air. 526 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, so I thought that. 527 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: Was weird too though, just just having someone win it 528 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: and then like, yeah, I'm not gonna go for the 529 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: biggest prize in the company. Let me go for the 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: biggest tag prize. Like I don't know, I get it, 531 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: but like, why would you put a tag guy in there. 532 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: To comedy gold? 533 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was gonna say, like to me, and 534 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: I hate to say it this way, but like it 535 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: seems like they're doing all this stuff with him because 536 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: of his weight. It's not like Otis is the guy, 537 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: you know, they're like, oh, he's kind of like overweight 538 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: and kind of a he'll billy and let's put him 539 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: with one of the hottest girls on the roster. See 540 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 2: with that, you know, it just seems like they're kind 541 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: of like poking fun without actually saying, hey look at 542 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: this fat though, you know, and like that just kind 543 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: of rubs me the wrong way, because like they're a 544 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: good tag team, but I don't know, this this side 545 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: stuff that they've been doing with him and Mandy has 546 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: just kind of rubbed me the wrong way. So I 547 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: don't not. 548 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Forget that like when we had when there were fans, 549 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: they look they ate that stuff right up. 550 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well so yeah that's true. 551 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean the you get there and watch 552 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 4: it and the times that we saw him like they 553 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: were the fan favorite. I'm not saying they're like the 554 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 4: John Cena fan favorite or Roman Reigns FA favorite, but 555 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: they're they're up there. They're kind of, you know, the 556 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 4: fan favorite up there with like New Day and whatnot. 557 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 4: But another match on the card, you've got Sasha Banks 558 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 4: versus OSCA for the Raw Women's Championship. And of course, 559 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: here's my thought process of all this. I have a 560 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 4: feeling and we can kind of tie this in together 561 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: because Oscar then turns around and faces Bailey for the 562 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: SmackDown Women's Championship. I have a feeling somehow they're going 563 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 4: to have Oscar win both belts. 564 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: I mean you would think so. I mean, it just 565 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't make like, why would you give take someone's spot 566 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: and give it to her when she already has you know, 567 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: I guess I guess the Sasha match was booked first, 568 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: and then something with Stephanie McMahon got her the Bailey 569 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: match or something, but or she wasn't or was it 570 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: a Battle Royale a Battle Royal. Yeah. I honestly, I'll 571 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: probably get through twenty twenty without watching an episode of Brawl. 572 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: I haven't watched anything whatsoever. But yeah, it's it's like, 573 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: you know, if you're gonna book it like that, that 574 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: is probably the most popular outcome, and if that doesn't happen, 575 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: it's just like, hey, you just took someone's spot, you know, Like, 576 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad that they're kind of putting the 577 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: focus back on Oscar. That was at that WrestleMania where 578 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: she lost to Charlotte for no reason. So yeah, I 579 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it's been it's been fun seeing 580 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: the highlights of Sasha and Bailey this summer with both, 581 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: you know, both belts and the tag belts and everything. 582 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's been. It's been pretty fun. But 583 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: uh yeah, I don't know. This is to me, it 584 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: just seems like another head scratcher, like I would have 585 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: given someone else a shot at Bailey's title, you know, But. 586 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: Man, I'm normally I would say I Envia for being 587 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: able to miss Raw every week, but you you've missed 588 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: some pretty excellent matches involving Oscar, Bailey, and Sasha. So 589 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: if you get the chance, go check those, especially this 590 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: past Monday, Bailey and Oscar. They they freaking tore it down. 591 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. As for as for this and 592 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: the follow up with Oscar and Bailey, I'm just like, look, 593 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: I've tried to mentally book how they're going to turn 594 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: this into Sasha versus Bailey, Like people have been asking 595 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: for it for so long, and every time I'm wrong, 596 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: and every time they push it further so I have 597 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: given up on trying to imagine how this turns into 598 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: the few people have been asking for for three years, 599 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna sit back and watch what happens. 600 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty has been the year of things happening that 601 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: are completely out of your control. 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Use the code Battleground. 642 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 4: It's time to grab twenty twenty by the horns by 643 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: shaving that front trunk of yours. 644 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: You know. 645 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 4: I think though, with WWE launching like the new Cruiserweight 646 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: Belt in the new United States Championship Belt, which that 647 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: thing is. You know, at first we were like kind 648 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: of like eh, but it grow on us and it's 649 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: an amazing looking belt. But I have a feeling though, 650 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: if Oscar wins both somehow they will unify that title 651 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 4: to where she goes back and forth between raw and SmackDown, 652 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 4: so that way it gives everybody, just like they do 653 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: with the tag team title belts. And I think, you know, 654 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: putting myself in the booking position, which I know if 655 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: you give me the pencil, this is probably not gonna happen. 656 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: But I have a feeling that, you know, Oscar will 657 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 4: beat Sasha because Bailey tries to help her out, and 658 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: then Sasha then tries to help Bailey out win the 659 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: Oscar match, and Oscar wins both, and then of course 660 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: this is where we see the demise of Bailey and 661 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: Sasha and the tag team titles get dropped. 662 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Or only one drops them drops their singles title and 663 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: then get jealous at the other one. 664 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: Yes, and then we finally get the Sasha Versus Bailey 665 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: viewed for the ten thousandth time. 666 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could I could see that. I could see 667 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: like Bailey dropping and then blaming Sasha, like you know, 668 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: like say, say such, Sasha wins, but Bailey interfered, and 669 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: then Bailey loses and Sasha didn't interfere, and she's like, 670 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: why didn't you help me? I helped you, and that 671 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, maybe that that could be the angle that 672 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: starts it. But yeah, it's I mean, I think it 673 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: was kind of a foregone conclusion. I think everyone assumed 674 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: Sasha and Bailey was going to be the main event 675 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: for SummerSlam. I mean I was hearing stuff about that 676 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: at like the Roller Rumble you know, so obviously COVID 677 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: had other plans, but you know, it's probably coming soon, 678 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, maybe as soon as like the Roller Rumble 679 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: it maybe you know, the big big show for that. 680 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: They may push it back to WrestleMania though, so I 681 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, they I think it's been on 682 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: everyone's mind for a while now. 683 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 4: So so another match that a lot of people are 684 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 4: kind of interested in seeing. And we actually kind of 685 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: talked to Vicky Guerrero and she praised Dominic for this, 686 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: but seth Rowins versus Dominic mysterio and I think Connor, 687 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: I think you've made a funny tweet about it that 688 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 4: WWE has not figured out how to spell his name 689 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: right right. 690 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: They really haven't, to the point where I reached out 691 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: to him on Twitter and I said, hey, how do 692 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: you spell it? And then someone commented maybe it's the 693 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: way he spells it on his Twitter account, and he 694 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: favored that tweet but didn't actually respond to me. So 695 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: then I turned around to that person and I said, well, 696 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: tell his company that because they don't know a C 697 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: is it a c K? Is it just a kay? 698 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: And lately they've actually stayed consistent with justic K. Yeah, 699 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, but stop changing it. It's driving 700 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: my headlines crazy. 701 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: And yeah, and then when you try to find it, 702 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: when you do the Google search, it's very weird. But uh, 703 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, I was sitting here and I was telling 704 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: Euy this the other night. I was like, imagine, you know, 705 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: you're sitting there and you're one of these guys, uh, 706 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: trying to be a wrestler, and you're sitting there in 707 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 4: the performance center and you're one of the guys in 708 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: the outside watching and you sit here and watch Dominic 709 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: and no offense Dominic. I'm not hanging on him, but 710 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: you're watching Dominic sign a WWE contract and his first 711 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: match is a pay per view against seth rawlins Man. 712 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: This is it's it's a testament to Set, just like 713 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: it's a testament to Cole. They have all the confidence 714 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: in the world that he can carry this kind of 715 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: match with a guy that doesn't really have experience. I 716 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: the thing with Dominic that I don't understand is why 717 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: don't they just put him in NXT in the performance 718 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: center like everybody else, right? Why does he have to 719 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: get the rocket like this? Because it feels like it's 720 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: setting him up for failure more than anything. 721 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: And espectually, if he botches something or whatever, you know, 722 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 4: the internet Twitter trolls are going to just go ballistic 723 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 4: for sure. 724 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's I mean, I think it's too soon obviously. 725 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's I don't know, like and and again 726 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: I haven't been watching. I'll catch some highlights on Twitter 727 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: and stuff, but I mean the storyline hasn't really I 728 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: don't know, like the whole Rawins and Ray mysterial eyeball 729 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: thing was kind of lame and I don't know, it's 730 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: just like another story that I just don't really care about, 731 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: you know. And and and then to put him in 732 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: here his very first match on one of their four 733 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: biggest pay per views is just I don't know, let's 734 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: roll on the dice, I guess. 735 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, credit to him every every time 736 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: he's been on TV so far, he's kind of nailed 737 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: it people with those kendosticks. 738 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that beat down last week was no joke. I mean, 739 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: holy crap. I mean, you know, you kind of hear 740 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: all these stories about paying your dues and hazing and stuff, 741 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: and if that was what he had to do to 742 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: prove that he deserved to be in the match, then 743 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: by all means be in the match, because that was brutal. 744 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I think maybe Seth broke 745 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of k fob in there because he 746 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: was like, you want to pay your dues, here's you 747 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 4: paying your dues, and he was like just getting cracked 748 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 4: and like taking it from both sides, Like I if 749 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: I couldn't do that, You couldn't pay me any type 750 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 4: of money to take kindo shots like that. 751 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: Nah. No, see, I always saw the kindo sticks were like, 752 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: you know, like the I don't know, like rein like 753 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: separated and then taped up. So it really wasn't that bad. 754 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: But like, I don't know if it was just him 755 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: swinging so hard or they used like a different kind 756 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: they really you know, but yeah, I was not expecting 757 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 2: those pictures, you know, after the after all went up there, 758 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: So uh, yeah, I don't know what happened, but yeah, 759 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: he gave it to him, that's for sure. 760 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think there's a very good chance 761 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: Y interferes here because the fact that they keep bringing 762 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: it up and what you might be hearing about his contract. 763 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: I think this is where he makes his miraculous return 764 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: with both eyes intact. 765 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, I just I remember seeing online all the 766 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 4: stories about this match was supposed to be c g 767 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 4: I and all this other stuff, and then I was 768 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: so bummed because I was like, I was waiting for 769 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: an eyeball to just kind of dangle, like just hanging there. 770 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 4: But it was just the fake eyeball and you just 771 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 4: saw it through his fingers. That was it. I was 772 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: very disappointed with that. 773 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: It looked like a poke ball. It just you blink 774 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: and you miss it. 775 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: So at the end of the match, who who's picking 776 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 4: up the w Is it Seth or is a Dominic? 777 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Dominic, because I mean 778 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: Seth is I mean, Seth's teflon. He can he can 779 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: lose anything. But if you just have Dominic lose, where 780 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: do you go with this? Like you've already had him, 781 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: you know Maime his father, Yeah. 782 00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I my gut, says Seth, just because I completely agree. 783 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Seth can lose to Roman and 784 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: then the next week he's fighting Brock for the world time, 785 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he can bounce back very quickly. 786 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: But unless ray Masterio interferes, it just doesn't story wise 787 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 2: make a lot of sense for Ricky to beat him, 788 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, like same thing with the Pat and Cole thing, 789 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: I guess, but I would be okay if Dominic somehow 790 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: got the win or you know, Ray interfered or whatever, 791 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: it definitely would put him on the map. But it 792 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: would just scare me that then they're gonna like when 793 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: you said put the put the rocket on him, like, Okay, cool, 794 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: he had a decent match with Seth, he won, Let's 795 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: let's throw him in against you know whoever? Now, you know, So, 796 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: I just think they need to make sure they're they're 797 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: taking their time with developing some of these people. I mean, 798 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: it's really awesome to have the son of Ram Stereo 799 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: in your company. I get that, but like you also 800 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: don't want him to like flame out before he's ready. 801 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, NXT gets the Rock's daughter 802 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: there at the performance center and she hasn't been on 803 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 4: TV or nothing, and they're not doing this kind with 804 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: her who her dad. 805 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Is, right, And then the question becomes with I mean, 806 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: he's Ray Mystereo suns, so does he get a mask? 807 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, And the funny thing is is that I 808 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 2: guess this might have changed, but the last I checked 809 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: sometime last week, Ray Mysterio still doesn't have a deal 810 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: with WW and there's speculation that he might like once 811 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: this run is over with Dominic, he might hop to AEW. 812 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: So it'd be funny if like Dominic's and WWE and 813 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: Ray Bounce's toa AW. 814 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 4: It should be a very interesting thing, especially with as 815 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: much ties as you know Ray has with WW and AEW, 816 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 4: with everybody being there, so that should be a fun 817 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 4: thing to uh look forward to. And you know, of 818 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 4: course you will be able to find this news once 819 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: it happens at comic book dot com because Connor's gonna 820 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 4: write it and he'll be the first one to put 821 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 4: it out there. 822 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: Uh darn touton, So I gotta give a shout out 823 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 2: to comic book dot Com. They're based in Middle Tennessee, 824 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: so if you're like me, I was not aware of that. 825 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: I've seen, you know, stories or read their stuff for 826 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: years and I don't even know how it made the connection, Like, 827 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: oh crap. They're in my neck of the woods, so 828 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: always always awesome and have a cool company like that 829 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 2: here in town. 830 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 4: So we kind of move on to the next one. 831 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 4: And this is another match that should be an interesting one, 832 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 4: Apollo Cruise versus MVP for the United States Championship. 833 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 2: If I was watching this, this would be the probably 834 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 2: one of my main matches I would be interested in. 835 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: I've always liked Apollo Cruise. He was incredible on NXT. 836 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: I saw I think three times on the tours that 837 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 2: they did. He was in town and I saw him live, 838 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, just being able to do some 839 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: of the stuff he does is a big guy. He 840 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: just doesn't give a lot of credit. And MVP has 841 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: been phenomenal this summer on WWE, him and Bobby Lashley 842 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: and kind of hinting at like a new Nation of Domination, 843 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 2: which I'm sure they won't use that name, but they've 844 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: been awesome. And I just saw MVP in February. He 845 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: fought Ricky Starks here in Clarkswell, outside of Clarkswell, he 846 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: still got it. It was awesome. So but yeah, I 847 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: kind of I hope Apollo wins, but I also kind 848 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: of see something happening where either he wins and then 849 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: joins MVP, or he loses and then joins MVP, like 850 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: something happens to where they finally kind of get together, 851 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 2: but I'd like to I'd like to see Cruise keep 852 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: the belt if possible. 853 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just glad that they've given this any modicum 854 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: of a story, because my issue with Apollo has always 855 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: been it's just he come out, he smiles, he does 856 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: his flip, he waves to the crowd, he leaves. That 857 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: was never gonna be enough, and they knew that. But 858 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, this kind of he had 859 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: to rally back from an injury to win the title 860 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: in the first place. Porter comes in, He's honest and Eli, 861 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned he's probably in a year when just about 862 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: every surprise has been a bad one. Porter's been one 863 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: of the biggest pleasant surprises all year for the WWE. 864 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if you'd have told me pre Corona 865 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: or even last year that, like, hey, next year, twenty twenty, 866 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: MVP is going to be one of the high points 867 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 2: of verall, I'd be like, what what do you you know? 868 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just been crazy. 869 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: And the stuff he's doing with the hurt business, Like 870 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: I didn't care for that first week or underground, but 871 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: the moment they showed up, like okay, no, this could 872 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: work if you guys are running it. They didn't follow 873 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: up with that this week, but maybe they can fix that. 874 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 4: They did the dancers off of Roll Underground though, yeah 875 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: they did. That was another thing for another story that 876 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 4: we'll talk about. 877 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: But that was that was cringe, man. That was just 878 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: that was them trying a little too hard. 879 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: I think I saw a tweet they were saying that 880 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 4: this is like Shane Shane McMahon's midlife after divorce crisis, 881 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 4: that he's just created this thing. But uh yeah, I mean, 882 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,439 Speaker 4: Apollo Cruise is good to finally see that they're acknowledging him. 883 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 4: And you know, it's like you guys said, come out, wave, smile, 884 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: flip in the match, and you know, I've we've had 885 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: Apollo Cruise and Titus O'Neill in studio and them two 886 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 4: together were great. But it's like, here's Apollo Cruse, who 887 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 4: is like the the the Vince guy. Like he's got 888 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 4: the build, he's got the charisma, he's got the fans, 889 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: the Mike skills, he's still you know, working on those. 890 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, pairing him with MVP, if 891 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 4: you know, things go the way it goes, I think 892 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 4: that will be good and you could create this stable. 893 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 4: I I do you see Apollo winning this match, But 894 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 4: it depends on if you know Shelton Benjamin and Bobby 895 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: lastly are there at ringside, which really shocked me that 896 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 4: Shelton Benjamin's picking up the first win not too long ago, 897 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 4: was like the first win since the first iPhone came out. 898 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: On raw or whatever. 899 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that sounds about right, but I mean you think 900 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: how long he was gone, and then when he's back, 901 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: he's in that tag team with Gable and that's about it. 902 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: Which I really think that Charlie has should have came back, 903 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 4: you know, and they they threw what I ran together. 904 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 4: That would have been a great thing, but that's a 905 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 4: completely different thing. But yeah, I want to see how 906 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 4: this is going to play out. Like I said, I 907 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 4: think Apollo does win this match, and somehow, you know, 908 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 4: eventually we'll see him join MVP's crew because it's it's 909 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: a good time for this to happen, and I would 910 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 4: like to kind of see them win all the gold 911 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 4: and have gold around their waist. 912 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at some point it'd be cool. I 913 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: mean it's you know, probably a long shot, but I 914 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 2: think if you had the preliminary people that are there 915 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: right now, and then also brought in like the usas. 916 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: I mean that would that stable would be unstoppable. 917 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I still think Ricochet needs to be 918 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: involved in this somehow because that guy needs a mouthpiece 919 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: in the absolute worst way, and he's so good otherwise. 920 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, uh, I think paring him with Cedric 921 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: Alexander has been, you know, pretty good. It's I don't 922 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: want to say it's like desperation, but it's like, you know, 923 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 2: obviously Events has given up on Ricochet, which is mind 924 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: blowing to me. But uh, yeah, I mean I think, 925 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd put both of them in there. Ricochet 926 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: and Cedric Alexander are both incredible, but I think there's 927 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: a lot of possibilities with it, and I think with 928 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: as much kind of buzz they've gotten because of MVP, 929 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: Like you know, I think it may be like the 930 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: new cool faction in wrestling. You know, it's it's it's 931 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 2: shaping up to be pretty cool so far. Let's see. 932 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 4: Going on to the next matches, you got the Street 933 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 4: Profits versus Andrade and Angel Garza and uh we actually 934 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 4: got to see Angel Garza wrestle. What was that was it? 935 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 4: Maybe two years ago? I think he was at the 936 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 4: Fairgrounds and didn't put two and two together until recently 937 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 4: that that was the same person. But you know, I 938 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 4: this match has been great building up somehow I feel 939 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 4: that Bianca and Selena will get involved somehow in this match, 940 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 4: especially with everything that's been going on and Montes getting 941 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 4: poisoned or roofed or whatever you want to say. He 942 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 4: got happened. But yeah, this this should be probably one 943 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: of the top matches of the night, depending on how 944 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 4: it goes. 945 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 2: Man. 946 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: Credit to Bianca and Zelena for deciding to involve their 947 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: Twitch channels. And yes, because when when she jumped Zelena 948 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: on that channel, I laughed my ass off. That was funny. 949 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 4: That was that was great because I sitting there watching 950 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 4: and I was like, I wonder if this is like 951 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 4: legitimately at her house or if this is just like 952 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 4: backstage at the performance center. And kudos to Kayla for 953 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: not laughing and trying to keep it together during that video. 954 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's she's fantastic, underrated amongst the the interviewers. 955 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: But now I again, this is like the this is 956 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: like the cruise MVP thing. They're actually giving it a 957 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: bit of a story and lo and behold I care 958 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: a little bit more. 959 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I think I think I can see Andrede 960 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: and Angel taking them. I don't know what it's been 961 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: about the street profits, but something just hasn't landed with 962 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: me with them. I mean, I I going back to 963 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: that the next T show I saw last year. I 964 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 2: mean they were you know, they were awesome live and 965 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 2: the crowd was into it. There's just something that's just like, 966 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, something that's not binding with me. 967 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, with any they need the crowd. They they are 968 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: one of the acts that needs the crowd more than anything. 969 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: Because I saw them, yep, then I saw them on 970 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: one of their last NXT shows before they got shipped 971 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: off to Raw, and Yeah, the crowd absolutely loves interacting 972 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: with them. 973 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 974 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: When you when they're just kind of jumping and skipping 975 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: on the on the entrance ramp with nothing else you know, 976 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: around them, it doesn't look good. It looks goofy. 977 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. And and there's several people like that, even like 978 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: Matt Hardy has talked about you know, his his his 979 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: you know, start of his run a W has been 980 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: kind of lackluster because the crowd is so such a 981 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: part of his elite you know, chance and all that. 982 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 2: But but you know, obviously I love Bianca, she knocks 983 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 2: for girl obviously, But I don't know Street Profits. I 984 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: just haven't clicked with them, so I just I don't 985 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of investment with them. So but I 986 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 2: don't know, I can kind of see this being the 987 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, a big show like this. I can kind 988 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: of see them this being like the tides turning and 989 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 2: putting them on somebody else. But I definitely think we're 990 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: going to see some outside interference or at least them 991 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 2: fighting on the outside while the teams are in the 992 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: ring or whatever. So but yeah, I think I think 993 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 2: this could be a pretty solid TEG match. 994 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 4: The one thing I've been watching is like, how has 995 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 4: Montes not hit that big ass fan when he does 996 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 4: that frog splat? Yeah, I mean, that dude is that 997 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 4: is the biggest frog splash I've ever seen in all life. 998 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 4: And it's like I'm just waiting for him to either 999 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: hit the ceiling or that fan or something falling from 1000 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 4: the ceiling after he hits it, because I mean, that 1001 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 4: dude gets up there with that frog splash. 1002 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: That guy is something special. And someday we're going to 1003 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: see a singles run with him that I think is 1004 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: going to turn a lot of people's attention most definitely. 1005 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 4: And I think I and if I had the pencil, 1006 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: I would say, here's what you do if Andrade and 1007 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 4: Angel wins the title. You know, they kind of sit 1008 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 4: there and talk, and I don't think it's it might 1009 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 4: be too early to broke up Procer, but I think that, 1010 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 4: you know, Monteze's tag team partner. I think he says, hey, man, 1011 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 4: it was me that poisoned you. I'm tired of being 1012 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 4: you know, the guy, and I'm tired of you still 1013 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 4: in the limelight. And then they kind of run that way. 1014 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: Man, it feels way too early for that. That feels 1015 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 1: like when they broke up Enzo and Casts really quickly. 1016 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 4: Yes, and you know that's you know, I think that 1017 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 4: it could be potentially. I mean, Bruce Pritchard's now running 1018 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 4: the show, so you know, who knows what's going to happen. 1019 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, I I have read some stuff 1020 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 4: online that that could be one way of doing it. 1021 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 4: But you know, it could, like you said, too early, 1022 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 4: Enzo and Cast. They should learn from their past mistakes, 1023 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 4: but we know that there's no learning from past mistakes 1024 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 4: in WW sometimes. So moving on to the next one, 1025 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 4: Let's look at this broun Strum versus bray Wyatt, which 1026 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 4: is a very weird thing because I was watching SmackDown 1027 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 4: and it was like Bron was like, here's a new 1028 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 4: monster and he basically just cut his hair. That's like, 1029 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 4: what's the purpose of this. It's not a new monster. 1030 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: So I was digging all of what they were doing, 1031 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: from money in the bank to the swamp fight with 1032 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: all of its goofiness. I got what they were trying 1033 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: to get towards. I think they've lost the plot now 1034 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: by adding an Alexa Bliss and it kind of looking 1035 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: like a double turn because Bron is like, I'm evil 1036 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: now because I have no hair and I'm gonna throw 1037 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 1: tiny Alexa and it's like, wait, so is themed up? 1038 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: Am I rooting for him? I was rooting for him 1039 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: anyway because I wanted to get the title back because 1040 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: that Goldberg nonsense was nonsense. But I just they I 1041 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: feel like they've lost the plot with this. 1042 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's another example of just terrible booking. 1043 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they they don't know what to do. I 1044 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 2: mean he even goes back to you know when he 1045 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: lost to uh Seth at the Hell and the Cell 1046 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 2: and everyone they almost rioted, you know what I mean, 1047 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 2: and like with yeah, and you know, he's been one 1048 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: of the most well I mean, I think he's underrated 1049 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 2: just across his whole career. I mean they you know 1050 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 2: who was he first? Husky Husky has horrible name, but 1051 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 2: you know, he he just ant Like when I when 1052 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 2: I first got back into it, I was like, oh, 1053 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: this is cool. Like he's coming out with the lantern 1054 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: and it's kind of got the I don't know what 1055 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 2: the what kind of music you call that kind of 1056 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: swampy blues. He kind of I was like, this is 1057 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: really cool. And then he kind of had like a 1058 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: little bit of a supernatural vibe and and then you know, 1059 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 2: it pretty much got to a point where you're like, well, 1060 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: if bray White's on a paper view, he's going to lose. Like, 1061 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he just that's what he did. He was 1062 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 2: just the one that lost. And you know, they finally 1063 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: gave him the belt and then they had him and 1064 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: Brandy had that crappy match and it was a nightmare. 1065 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: And then you know, when he went away and then 1066 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: started up with his fiend stuff, it was such an 1067 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 2: organic thing and it just built and built and built 1068 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 2: and built and built, and then like like normal, they've 1069 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,399 Speaker 2: kind of watched it, you know, And even going back 1070 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 2: to the extreme rules thing, I mean, did we did 1071 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: they decide who actually won? Because I thought Bray won it, 1072 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: but then I mean, I don't know. I don't know. 1073 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: Bray won because Fiend was the last thing you saw 1074 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the show, and they I remember 1075 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: when the match, when the match ended, the Fox WWE 1076 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: Twitter account goes and your winner is Ray Wyatt and 1077 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,399 Speaker 1: I look at him and go, how yeah, And. 1078 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 4: It's like the title match, because you know, before there 1079 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 4: was I think maybe it was the Fox Twitter account 1080 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 4: was like it's a it's a title match, and then 1081 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 4: on TV they're like, it's not a title match, and 1082 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 4: then it was just a place. 1083 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they've done no favors for braun Stroman either. 1084 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we're you know, it was it really feels like, 1085 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, they they in case of emergency, we had 1086 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: to we had to put somebody else in the spot. 1087 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: Bronze here and you can tell a story between him 1088 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 1: and Bray, but I'll say this, I you know, Eli, 1089 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned how just how far back the mishandling with 1090 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: Wyatt has been. I think Bray is going to go 1091 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: down as a cautionary tale for the people that do 1092 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: grab the you know, metaphorical brass ring, because that's what 1093 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: he's done. Yeah, but these characters we've seen on television 1094 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: are all his creation, you know, the backstories and the 1095 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: deeper meanings that you know, people are able to find 1096 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,280 Speaker 1: with both, you know, both the cult leader and the fiend. 1097 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: The problem is is that he's not the one writing 1098 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: the show every week, so his creation goes into the 1099 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: hands of people who didn't create it, and they don't 1100 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: know what to do with it because no one understands 1101 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: it better than he does. 1102 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird that they like go to the 1103 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: talent for what's your name, what's your name going to be, 1104 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: what's your you know, what's your outfit going to look like? 1105 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: What are your move sets? What's this? And you know, 1106 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 2: once they put all this time and energy into that, 1107 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: that's taken away and then the writers dictate all of it, 1108 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 2: you know. So it's it's a very strange, I don't 1109 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 2: know what you call it. It's a very strange situation 1110 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 2: that they're put in to create something as a credible as. 1111 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: The Fiend, and then you know it kind of it's 1112 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: it's why Whyatt has always been at his most interesting 1113 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: when he's just doing the promos. When he when he's 1114 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: when it's just promos and he's building up to something, 1115 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: it's great, but then the actual booking has to be 1116 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: brought in and then we're all left wondering, what the 1117 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: heck did I just watch? 1118 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean hopefully this is kind of like 1119 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: the you know, the exclamation point one way or the other. 1120 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 2: Either you know, it's the double turn and Braun retains 1121 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: or it's a double turn and break it whatever. Like, 1122 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 2: I just hope this is kind of the end of 1123 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: this and then they kind of move on to a 1124 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 2: different program. But yeah, I don't know, it's. 1125 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: Wins just to kind of hit a reset on all 1126 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: the pre Goldberg stuff. That's my guess. 1127 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 4: You've got to But I will say that I do 1128 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 4: like the fact that in certain matches you've gotten either 1129 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 4: Bray Wyatt or the Fiend, and it's you know, I 1130 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 4: don't they haven't really said what's going to show up, 1131 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 4: so you it's it's I like what they do with 1132 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 4: the split personalities where you can go in and you're 1133 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 4: not squashing the actual fiend, You're just squashing the good guy, 1134 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 4: mister Rogers bray Wyatt, Right, So that's the cool thing 1135 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 4: about that. But I agree with both of you guys. 1136 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 4: I think Bray walks home with this reset and then 1137 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 4: starts up the whole, you know, redo the family again 1138 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 4: with sister Abigail, and maybe maybe this is the time 1139 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 4: that Bo Dallas can be a part of something with 1140 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 4: bray Waatt. Who knows. But we move on to probably 1141 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 4: what will be the main event of the night, Drew 1142 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 4: McIntire versus Randy Orton, and this has been going back 1143 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 4: and forth, phenomenal storytelling, some phenomenal promos for both of 1144 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: the guys. I do have this gut feeling that somehow 1145 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 4: Rick Flair is going to be involved in this match. 1146 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think that that theory 1147 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: that's been going around that you know, we never technically 1148 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: saw Randy punt Rick. I think that's where the Shenanigans 1149 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: come in because for some reason, there is supposedly a 1150 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: pay per view of the weekend after Summer slect. 1151 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 4: Camp, Yeah, which is very back to back and. 1152 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me at all if Shenanigans take place 1153 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 1: during the main event. So they pull this Tuesday in 1154 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: Texas and suddenly have another show where the world titles 1155 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:57,439 Speaker 1: on the line again. 1156 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can see that happening. I will say 1157 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 2: Randy Orton has been really good the last about a 1158 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 2: years ago. I really kind of hate they didn't do 1159 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 2: something with him and the revival. I think that would 1160 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 2: have been an incredible stable But it's just kind of 1161 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 2: a you know, for some of these guys that have 1162 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 2: been around for a long time, him and Sina and 1163 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: even Brock I guess, but I mean if they when 1164 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 2: they when they turn it on, I mean they they 1165 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 2: they're really good. And I think that's how Orton is. 1166 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 2: He's kind of a you know, to me, it's almost 1167 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 2: like a psych patient and his his his sanity's breaking, 1168 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 2: and so like, you know, he attacks his friend Edge 1169 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: and then he you know, attacking Rick Flair, and he's 1170 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, he's like kind of losing grasps of reality, 1171 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 2: and you know, then he did that little TikTok thing 1172 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 2: with r k O on the Drew McIntyre thing and 1173 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 2: all that, and so I mean he's been really good 1174 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 2: the last at least a year or so. 1175 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: No, it's amazing how a year ago he was in 1176 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: a match for the same championship. We didn't care half 1177 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: as much as we do now because he has just 1178 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: been so much more invested in the Edge storyline, bringing 1179 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: back the legend Killer. I mean, he out of nowhere 1180 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: has a match with freaking Christian on an episode of Raw, 1181 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what the hell is twenty twenty. 1182 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: But it's amazing how he's at the point now where 1183 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: every time he's on screen, I'm like, I have to 1184 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: see what this guy does next. And we're talking about 1185 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: a guy that has been a scaple of WWE television 1186 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: for at least fifteen years. 1187 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: Yep, and Drew. 1188 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: I gotta say this because I've heard some people knock this. 1189 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 1: Everything that guy has done with this world title reign, 1190 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: he's done right. He has put on good matches, he 1191 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: has shown charisma in his promos. He doesn't come off 1192 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: as cheesy, he comes off as legitimate. He's doing everything right. 1193 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: So when people look back at this air and say, oh, 1194 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Drew just couldn't cut the musters World Champion, uh huh, No, 1195 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: He's this isn't his fault. 1196 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 2: No, I think the two reigns, I think McIntyre has 1197 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: done a better job than braun Strumman. And you know, 1198 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: not anybody's fault. I just objectively, I think Drew McIntyre 1199 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 2: has been a more I guess, legitimate champion or but 1200 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: I mean even even his match with Dolph at Extreme 1201 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Rules was solid. I mean it, you know, it wasn't 1202 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 2: like match of the Year anything, but I mean it 1203 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 2: was still solid. You know. So I've really enjoyed you know, again, 1204 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm not watching it or anything, but seeing highlights of stuff. 1205 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed Drew what he's done. And you know, 1206 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I kind of hate it for him. He didn't get 1207 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 2: that big WrestleMania moment with the crowd and all that, 1208 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 2: but you know, it is what it is. I'm sure 1209 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 2: he's he's okay, sleeping on his stack of cash that 1210 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 2: he has now for sure for sure. 1211 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, so that that kind of is looking at 1212 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 4: the entire lineup of SummerSlam, so it's gonna be a 1213 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 4: good thing. But here's what I want to know is 1214 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 4: when are we going to finally see retribution show up? 1215 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 4: I think if anytime it's summer clim right. 1216 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: My hope is not at all. 1217 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe the hacker thing. 1218 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Stay the hell away from SummerSlam please this and Raw 1219 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Underground both like I get their works in progress. They 1220 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: ain't working for me right now, Keep them the hell 1221 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: away from your second biggest show of the year. 1222 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 4: It's I and I just don't know because there's so 1223 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 4: many things going on because it's different people every week. 1224 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Like the first time you saw them, everybody was like 1225 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 4: six six six seven whatever, and then the next week 1226 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 4: it's like, the guys are five eighths and Eli had 1227 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 4: sent me a thing of somebody I guess put on Twitter. 1228 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 4: You know, they should just call them the aces in 1229 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 4: five eights. But I mean, it's it's it's very weird. 1230 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 4: And of course, you know we always see online. You 1231 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 4: always say on the dirt Sheep, it's like, okay, who's 1232 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 4: the rumored people? Could it be Xavier Woods? Could it 1233 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 4: be this? And you know when Rall posts or once 1234 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 4: wwe posted on Instagram the other day and I zoomed 1235 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 4: in on this because I always like to read comments 1236 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 4: on what people are just saying. On WWE's post, the 1237 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 4: one thing was like one of them is Carmela And 1238 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 4: if you zoom in you can see that it is Carmela, 1239 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 4: like the eyebrows, the you know, the facial structure through 1240 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 4: what you can see of it, and it's like Carmela 1241 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 4: because it's like where has she been all this time? 1242 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Right? And I do know that it has been said 1243 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: that the people you're seeing in the ring with the 1244 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: masks are not necessarily going to be the actual members. 1245 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: So people that are playing detective trying to figure out, Okay, 1246 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: this looks like this person, this could be this person, 1247 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: none of that might matter. 1248 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's until if we see somebody just ripping the 1249 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 4: mask off in the ring and saying we're the people. 1250 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,439 Speaker 4: You know, No, I'm not trying to steal Jackswagger's thing, 1251 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 4: but anyway, and do they say who we are? I mean, 1252 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 4: there's just speculations. Of course. It's like everybody thinks Diga 1253 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 4: Kovac is part of the group because nobody's heard from 1254 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 4: him and he's been sending out cryptic tweets. But I'm 1255 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 4: just waiting for that guy to get in the ring, right. 1256 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 4: So but yeah, so that that wraps up the show. 1257 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 4: Connor Man, dude, thank you so much for coming on 1258 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 4: and reviewing and previewing SummerSlam and some of nx T 1259 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 4: with us man. 1260 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: It was an absolute pleasure, and you can find our 1261 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: full coverage and all things SummerSlam over on comicbook dot 1262 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,919 Speaker 1: COM's WWE page. We will be obviously covering the show 1263 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: live as it happens, but we will also be doing 1264 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: some stuff ahead of time. We'll hopefully have some interviews 1265 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: lined up and some lookbacks at previous SummerSlam events as well. 1266 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 4: And one last thing, because I was going to ask 1267 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 4: you to plug that, where can people find you on 1268 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 4: social media? 1269 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: People can find me at Connorcasey Underscore c B. That's 1270 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: both on Twitter and Instagram. And also one last thing, 1271 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 1: check out the Comic Book Nation podcast because myself and 1272 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: Matt Aguilar will be previewing Summer Slam just like we 1273 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: did here over on that podcast. Those drop every Wednesdays 1274 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 1: and Fridays. 1275 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 4: Awesome. Connor, once again, thank you so much for coming 1276 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 4: on the show today. We greatly do appreciate it and 1277 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 4: we're looking forward to seeing your coverage of SummerSlam. Atomic 1278 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:17,919 Speaker 4: book dot Com. 1279 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, guys, see you. 1280 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 5: We hope you enjoyed today's episode of the Battleground podcast. 1281 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 5: Make sure you give it five stars and a nice review. 1282 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 5: To stay up to date with the show, follow them 1283 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 5: at Battleground Podcast on Instagram,