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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. We're here finally

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Speaker 1: the first Sunday of the season, and it was a

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Speaker 1: doozy some great early games, but you know, the game

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk about, Mitchell, is the Sherman Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers at the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: the game I've been looking forward to. You notice that

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Speaker 1: I haven't really been wearing the hats, Mitchell, because I

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Speaker 1: was going to let to the winner goes the spoils.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell and the San Francisco forty nine Ers pull out

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Speaker 1: a win and a hard fought defensive battle. I loved

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Speaker 1: what I saw from both teams, and I know you

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Speaker 1: your Detroit Lions took a tough loss. But hanging there, Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: It's a long season.

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Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there. But Richard, let's talk about these

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Speaker 2: Niners and seahawkss I know you were looking forward to

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Speaker 2: this game, and hey, the forty nine ers, you know what,

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Speaker 2: rightfully saw you wear their cap. I know the Seahawk

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Speaker 2: fans are gonna be saying, hey, why is Richard wearing

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Speaker 2: this the forty nine ers cap? But to the winner

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Speaker 2: go the Spoils and Richard, there is a lot to

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Speaker 2: talk about in this game. Let's start Brock Purdy in

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Speaker 2: his performance.

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Speaker 1: What did you.

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Speaker 2: Think about how he handled this game? Seventeen to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Not your typical running gun game that we would expect

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Speaker 2: out of these foes, but the forty nine ers get

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Speaker 2: to win and it's important for him.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell, I was concerned, and I was concerned coming into

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Speaker 1: this game. I thought it would go about how it went,

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Speaker 1: my greatest concern being the health of the San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers and how it would it was on

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Speaker 1: the edge of a knife, and of course, right on

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Speaker 1: Q George Kittle having a dominant first quarter, not dominant

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Speaker 1: first drive, looks like, oh my god, he's another all

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Speaker 1: pro season loading and it still probably will be. Then

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Speaker 1: a ham string injury takes him out and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. Okay, so without George, what are we

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Speaker 1: gonna do? And that was the big question. After that

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Speaker 1: first touchdown drive, the team stalled in a big way.

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Speaker 1: They leaned on Christian McCaffrey, who had a really, really

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Speaker 1: phenomenal game. I think they said his twenty maybe I

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Speaker 1: forget what number, but the game with fifty yards receiving

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Speaker 1: and maybe forty first fifty yards, kept receiving in frixty

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Speaker 1: yards rushing, tying Marshall Falk during his time. But I thought,

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Speaker 1: if they lose George Kettle, where are they gonna go

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Speaker 1: with the football? Ricky Persoll had a solid game, had

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Speaker 1: a really good game, actually, but you need other places

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Speaker 1: to put the ball. Juwan Jennings caught two passes, had

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Speaker 1: five targets, but also got banged up in the game.

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Speaker 1: And I was thinking to myself, this is the scenario

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Speaker 1: I think that helps the Seattle Seahawks pull this game out.

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Speaker 1: That's the scenario in which I thought the Seattle Sea

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Speaker 1: walking away with the victory. They were at home, they

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Speaker 1: got the crowd into it. Their defense played a phenomenal game.

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Speaker 1: Picked off brock Purty twice in this ball game, and

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Speaker 1: after those two interceptions, my concern level for the way

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Speaker 1: brock Perry was playing was really high because he was

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Speaker 1: just trying to make a play for his team. When

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Speaker 1: you don't have the weapons out there, you don't have

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Speaker 1: I was holding my breath. I was holding my breath

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Speaker 1: for both ways. Because Tarik Wooland, who I loved to death,

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Speaker 1: dagger that ended this game. That would have been the

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Speaker 1: be his third pick of the day. And what happened

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Speaker 1: was It's one of those things, Mitchell, that I try

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Speaker 1: to that you can't coach, and it's hard to explain

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Speaker 1: to these two kids sometimes, the sense of urgency that

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Speaker 1: it takes in the National Football League when you want

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Speaker 1: to be great, you have to like it's such a

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Speaker 1: it's not like I'm gonna wait for my food to

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Speaker 1: I gotta go get it. Like it's rarely gonna be

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Speaker 1: It's because they knew where it was coming, they knew

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Speaker 1: You can't wait for it, You cannot wait for the football,

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Speaker 1: and conscious you know, went out there and grabbed the football.

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Speaker 1: It was unfortunate they had to double move late in

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Speaker 1: the game. Ricky Pursol on the it looked like a

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Speaker 1: seven pump, you know, the same play I was talking

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Speaker 1: about on on Cam Hayward's podcast that that Calvin Johnson

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Speaker 1: that year, seven pump and it looked like Terreek Woolan

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Speaker 1: the point he lost that rep. He looked like he

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Speaker 1: just kept his momentum, kept his stride going, I think

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Speaker 1: he has a chance to pick that football off. So

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Speaker 1: the one in the Enzo. And those are the little things.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pursol and he got it by a tip by

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Speaker 1: keep that up. And that's that's the growth of him

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Speaker 1: I thought this defense of Seattle Seahawks defense played a

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Speaker 1: then you come back and you drive the ball down

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Speaker 1: then everybody second guess is that decision anyway? And say

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Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was a beautifull defensive game. The

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Speaker 1: But they didn't they didn't get to stop. They went

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Speaker 1: Fred Warner was all over the field. Dee Winters looked incredible,

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Speaker 1: I think this gave the fans for both teams a

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Speaker 1: and Nicholas john Bosa is the closer. Mitchell he back

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Speaker 1: to back great plays in that game. I think he

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Speaker 2: Why they call it the Sherman Bowl. Richard, You've done

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Jake Moody, because I know the forty

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Speaker 1: This has to be it, Mitchell, Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: That's a career, that's his career. He's a career forty

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Speaker 1: He's twenty eight. Before today he was twenty nine to thirty,

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Speaker 2: He was working. He is plucking groceries, Richard, and then

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about it. Off are a thousand times.

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Speaker 2: third round. To have this level of acceptance, I'm calling

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Speaker 2: He was sixteen of twenty three for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: to JS. And Richard, this is not Minnesota. You don't

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Speaker 1: I thought he did solid. I didn't think he made

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna need to be more productive than he

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Speaker 1: So I think this offense has a lot of room

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Speaker 1: And I think they're continuing to learning, going to continue

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Detroit Lions against the Green Bad Packers.

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Speaker 2: This loss for the Detroit Lions was demoralizing. Richard, We're

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Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs had ten receptions for thirty one yards Richard,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I could go out there and do

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Speaker 1: It's only up from here. They played their their.

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Speaker 1: different conversation. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't feel like

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Speaker 1: their defense, their offense was just rolling down the field

430
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Speaker 1: and just having their way, which with the Detroit Lions defense,

431
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think that at all. I didn't

432
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Speaker 1: see that. I didn't feel that. I thought they held

433
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Speaker 1: their own. I thought they made some plays. I thought

434
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Speaker 1: there was a few plays they left out there. But

435
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: I thought offensively, what the Green Bay Packers focused on

436
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: this offseason, and obviously Layton to the offseason up until

437
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: last week is pass rush. They saw that the way

438
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Speaker 1: people had success against the Detroit Lions and beat them

439
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 1: when they did the very few times they beat him

440
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Speaker 1: last year, they hit Sam I mean, hit Jared Golf

441
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: early and often, they got pressure, and they got it

442
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Speaker 1: with four. They didn't that blits him. They didn't send

443
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: all these exotic pressures. They got there with four. They

444
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: covered well in the back end. But they found a

445
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Speaker 1: way that they said, Hey, we're gonna build this team

446
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Speaker 1: to beat the Detroit Lions. We're gonna create a ferocious

447
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: pass rush with four guys swarming, have a great rotation.

448
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: They have a great rotation of guys that were eighth

449
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: in sacks last year, and so adding Michaeh. Parsons, even

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Speaker 1: in the limited role that he was in today, made

451
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Speaker 1: a difference. Like Rashan Gary with a sack and a half,

452
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Speaker 1: Wyatt I think had a sack, and then of course

453
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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons late in the game finds a way to

454
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Speaker 1: get a sack, and as he gets more comfortable rushing

455
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Speaker 1: with these guys, I'm sure it'll get even better. But

456
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: they built themselves these defensively to cause this great offensive

457
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: line that you've built over the years problems. And that's

458
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Speaker 1: that's where things are getting murky because people are talking

459
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Speaker 1: about the coordinators, which is which is solid, but the

460
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: team isn't isn't drastically different. That offensive line did not

461
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Speaker 1: play as well as they used he played today, and

462
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Speaker 1: that's been such a strength of this offense for the

463
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Speaker 1: last couple of years that you almost you almost stopped

464
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Speaker 1: thinking about it. You're like, hey, they're gonna open up

465
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Speaker 1: holes for Jamior Gibbs in Montgomery. They're gonna they're gonna

466
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Speaker 1: give Jared Goff time to go execute. And they didn't today.

467
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Speaker 1: He was under duress a lot of the times. I

468
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Speaker 1: think he got sacked, but he got sacked three or

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Speaker 1: four times. He got sacked four times in this game.

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Speaker 1: He didn't turn the ball over. It was It wasn't

471
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Speaker 1: an awful game by any stretch of imagination, but the

472
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers showed they are a really, really good team.

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Speaker 1: And I told you Michael Parsons hit them from being

474
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Speaker 1: a really good team to condenders, and they showed that

475
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Speaker 1: against a team that was the one seed last year. Like, hey,

476
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Speaker 1: these guys are for real, they are legitimate, and they

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Speaker 1: should be treated accordingly. They will be in by top

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Speaker 1: five this week. Harris Stands were very upset. They deserve it,

479
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: but you gotta earn it on the field, and you

480
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: can't just say on paper we looked like this, and

481
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Speaker 1: we should have looked like this, and they earned it

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Speaker 1: on the field. And the same week this and concern

483
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Speaker 1: that I had for them before about winning a Super

484
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: Bowl I have for them now. And that's a quarterback position.

485
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Speaker 1: Not because he's not talented enough, not because he's not

486
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Speaker 1: doesn't have all the things that could do it. It's

487
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: because sometimes his decision making and his mechanics just don't

488
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: seem right. He's backing up, backing up, backing up off

489
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: his back foot lobs a pass that should have been

490
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Speaker 1: intercepted by Azeloni and been a huge playing the ball game,

491
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: but it gets dropped and everybody forgets about it. But

492
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Speaker 1: those are the plays that have been an achilles heel

493
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Speaker 1: to this Green Bay Packers team, even with the really

494
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: good defense and its calls issues when they've had defensive

495
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Speaker 1: success or when their defense has had a little bit

496
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: of an off game, he can't necessarily take them to

497
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: the next step. And so hopefully this game is the

498
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Speaker 1: first steps of him having that maturity. They have all

499
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Speaker 1: the weapons they need. They drafted him more weapons, they

500
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Speaker 1: got Josh Jacobs. They have all the dreadians to have

501
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: a really great offense. They just have to put it together. No,

502
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Speaker 1: their offensive line looked really good today too, by the.

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Speaker 2: Way they did, And I got it tip of the

504
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Speaker 2: cap to the greenback Packers. I mean, they really put

505
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: it all together. They look like a much better team

506
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Speaker 2: this year. And I hate to say it, but I

507
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: see him. You know, at this point, I don't want

508
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: to be a Monday Morning quarterback, but they got to

509
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: be the favorite to win the division right now. They

510
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: just looked like the better team. They got it together defensively.

511
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Speaker 2: The Lions have a lot to clean up, and they

512
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: got to clean it up quick going into Chicago. You

513
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: hate to see him going on too, especially against division

514
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Speaker 2: rivals start off the season.

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Speaker 1: Richard, Let's take it.

516
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Speaker 2: To the Friday night game. It was cool to see

517
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Speaker 2: football on Friday night, and especially in Brazil, the Chiefs

518
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: probably didn't like it. Though the Chiefs played the Chargers,

519
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: they took a loss, and you do not see the

520
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: Chargers beating the Kansas City Chiefs often. It's the first

521
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: time they beat him since twenty twenty one, and they

522
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: beat up pretty convincingly. It looks like they controlled most

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Speaker 2: of that game. I mean, Patrick Mahomes and this team

524
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: has been so dominant for years. It just seems like

525
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: no matter what happens, the Chiefs win. And here we

526
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: are the start of the season, them going oh to one,

527
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: and then next week they played the Philadelphia Eagles. This

528
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: team could be facing oh to two, and I don't

529
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: want to speak it into existence, but they could very

530
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: much so be looking at an oh and two start

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Speaker 2: the first time since God knows when, Richard, How concerned

532
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Speaker 2: would you be if you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 1: Again, I think if it's a one through team, I'm

535
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Speaker 1: at a five because I've fallen in this trap before

536
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Washington Kansas City Chiefs. I've I've done it. I would

537
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: not lie. They've been in a Super Bowl five in

538
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: the last six years, and and they've had starts like this.

539
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: They've had starts where they just looked like god awful,

540
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: and you're like, what weapons do they have? How are

541
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: they gonna be expected to make it to the super Bowl?

542
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: They limp and their way through the season, they lax

543
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: a days of cool. They don't look that great offensively,

544
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: their defense is looking dominant, or vice versa. Their defense

545
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: isn't looking the best and their offense looks dominant. Our

546
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is doing a lot of interceptions early and

547
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: you think, oh man, he's lost it. They figured him out,

548
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: and then they make a late run in December. They

549
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: whether they're the one seed or the five seed in

550
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: a wild card, they run through the playoffs, whether they're

551
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: home in our way, they find a way to win

552
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: and find a way to win. Even in the game,

553
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Speaker 1: I thought they were thoroughly dominated. You look at the

554
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: final score and it's twenty one to twenty seven, and

555
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: it could have been closer than that because the Chiefs

556
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: were in scoring range and they kicked the field goal

557
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: because they thought they could get it back and they

558
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: thought they wouldn't have enough time otherwise. I think they

559
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: score right there, and then it's twenty four to twenty

560
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: seven at the end into the game, final score, and

561
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about a game that got dominated. So I'm

562
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Speaker 1: not panicking if I'm those fans, but what I am

563
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: if I'm the LA Chargers and I'm their fans, I'm

564
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: feeling ecstatic because this is the Justin Herbert that everybody's

565
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: talked about, and everybody thought he would be everybody when

566
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Speaker 1: he came out of Oregon, and he was one of

567
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Speaker 1: the most heralded prospects, one of them. The generational talents,

568
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: the arm talent, the athleticism, the speed, the size, the IQ,

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Speaker 1: the brainiac. I lost to him in a chess match. Mitchell,

570
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: we had a chess tournament and I had him dead

571
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: to rights. I lost on time. But we're gonna talk

572
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: about that in another day. But a brilliant mind in

573
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: a very quick process or with great accuracy and all

574
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: those other things, but there was always something holding him back.

575
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Speaker 1: And it's two playoff games. He hasn't necessarily played well.

576
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: Had four interceptions in one. I thought he had three

577
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: interceptions last year, And so those are the those were

578
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: the criticisms, and they were rightful. So and everybody on

579
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: the other side, the Charger side, is like he doesn't

580
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: have the weapons. He doesn't have this, he doesn't have that.

581
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: And you look up in this game and it's pretty

582
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: much the same weapons, the same cast of characters. They

583
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: brought Keenan Allen back, a Charger great, and they brought

584
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: a you know, Najie Harris. They drafted Marin Hamsen Hampton, Yep,

585
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: they drafted Hampton. But I'm not saying those guys are

586
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: like you brought in a number one All Pro receiver.

587
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson. Looks really good now all of a sudden,

588
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: he's playing like he was capable of playing. Lab McConkie

589
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: looked good last year, looks good this year. But it's

590
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Herbert and his ability to elevate the guys around him

591
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: that really shined in this game. And his legs and

592
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: decision making and confidence and oh it was all there.

593
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: Mitchell was all there on display. And you talk about

594
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback when you look at this game

595
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: and you watch how he played. Sure he took the

596
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: three sacks, but you know, when you lose uh, your

597
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: you're All Pro tackle and for the season before before

598
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: the season starts, you're gonna have some some issues on

599
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I'm sure they'd be feeling really good

600
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: if they had Rashaun Slater on that side, you know,

601
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: protecting him with Joe all but unfortunately they lost him

602
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: for the season. But I thought, this Justin Herbert, maybe

603
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: it's Jim Harball and everything that he's great. They call

604
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: him the quarterback whisper they had. He has Trey Lance

605
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: looking great, But this is the best Justin Herbert has looked,

606
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: at least against the Kansas City Chiefs, I think in

607
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: his time with the LA Chargers.

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00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: No question about it. And I don't know what it

609
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: is with Jim Harbaugh as much as I do, not

610
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: like the guy being a uf M guy and me

611
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: being as sparty, but like, if Justin Herbert plays this

612
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: level of football week in week out, it's gonna be

613
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: hard to keep him out of the MVP conversation. Honestly, Richard,

614
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean, and this this Chargers team, this LA Chargers

615
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: team looks like they could be top of that. Honestly,

616
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: when they played this way and you look at the

617
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: additions they made it. I know it might have been

618
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: a late edition with an older wide receiver, but the

619
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: reality is Keenan Allen is used to this team. He's

620
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: used to this environment. Bringing him back. I feel like

621
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: it adds an extra safety blanket for Justin Herbert. And

622
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: you saw that, and he saw Quintin Johnson ball out.

623
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the guy is not the most

624
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: sure handed receiver, but in terms of making big plays,

625
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: he did just that. And then Lad mcconkee, who I mean,

626
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: this is Wes Welker reincarnate for the LA Chargers. You

627
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: gotta love to see it. Kansas City Chiefs. When I

628
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: leave this game, I'm worried. If I'm a Chiefs fan,

629
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Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that, especially when you go

630
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: to play the Eagles. Richard, we got to talk about

631
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: these Las Vegas Raiders against it.

632
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, because I can't. I can't

633
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: leave without talking about talk your talk. The defense, Mitchell.

634
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: The for the LA Chargers, they play, they they've always

635
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: been a really talented group. But they played lights out.

636
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: They were swarming, they were all over the place. They

637
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: played with confidence, they executed. There's not enough positive things

638
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: to say about what they did. And if they continue

639
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: to play like that, I watched a doubt. I mean,

640
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos today against the Tennessee Titans, they did

641
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: not look great offensively. Their defense looked really solid against

642
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans offense that is young and inexperienced with

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645
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Speaker 1: a driver's seat, especially with this win against the Kansas

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Speaker 1: are they right now are the class that is division

648
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Speaker 1: until proven otherwise. I think the Raiders looked good Gino

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Speaker 1: Smith three hundred yards passing in New England, which is

650
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Speaker 1: a tough place to play. I touchdown in a win, sure,

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Speaker 1: But the way the Chargers look on both sides of

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Speaker 2: Coached Derwin Richard Derwin James, that's the name I want

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Speaker 2: Today, let's talk Pete Carroll. This Las Vegas Raiders team.

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Speaker 2: I know it's there against the New England Patriots, but

680
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: the reality is expectations were a little bit higher for

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Speaker 2: the Patriots this year. They go on the road, they

682
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: get a win, Gino Smith throws for three hundred and

683
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: sixty two yards. He got comfortable real quick. He found

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Speaker 2: his favorite wide out, the tight end brock Bowers and

685
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: and you see Jacoby Myers getting involved. You gotta love

686
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: what you saw week one on from this offense with

687
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: the Raiders. I mean, your thought's on Geno and Pete Carroll.

688
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: This is what I thought it would be for them

689
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: when I talked about the Raiders and people kept asking me,

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00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: how you think Pete's gonna do. I think Pete's gonna

691
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: do great because Pete's not trying to reinvent the wheel.

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00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: He has a proven system that works. It's like building

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Speaker 1: a car. Have cars changed since nineteen whatever when they

694
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: were first invented and people started driving. Sure, but the

695
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: fundamental four wheels, an engine, a radiator, a gas tank,

696
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Mitchell has not changed very much. Now people change the

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Speaker 1: outer layer and put the fancy it interior, the new

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: leather and the new electronics, but the foundational design of

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00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: a car has not changed a lot. And so when

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: people say, oh, Pete Carroll isn't keeping up with the times,

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00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: He's still running that old system that nobody runs. It's

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00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: sad out it sound as ever, and you could see

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00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: it in that in that Raiders defense, they're not giving

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00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: up a ton rushing. They're right there where they're supposed

705
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: to be. It's a bend, but don't break. They're they're swarming.

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: They're playing really fast. You got guys where they're supposed

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00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: to be. They got an interception in the game, they

708
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: got four sacks in the game, and they're playing smart football.

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00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: Then offensively, you see Geno Smith, who can deal. I

710
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: know people thought, oh, it's just a fluke in Seattle

711
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: and he had that one year. No, mentally, he's figured

712
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Speaker 1: it out. He's processing. He's a great processor in the NFL,

713
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: and it shows weekend and week out. He was dealing

714
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Speaker 1: to these tight ends, both Mayor and Bronck ball powers. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He also had some cool passes to Uh, you just

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Speaker 1: said his name, Jacoby Myers. Jacoby Myers. Sorry, he had

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00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: some great players to Jacob, but he just looks like

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Speaker 1: he's in command. I know last year everybody was down

719
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Speaker 1: on him. I thought the offensive line he was playing

720
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: behind just just didn't have enough. They were beat up,

721
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: they were injured, had some holes, had some issues. But

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Speaker 1: when he has time, Gino Smith can deal. And even

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Speaker 1: on the interception today to Brock Powers, it hit brought.

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Speaker 1: It appeared to me like it hit brock Powers hands

725
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: got tipped up in the air, intercepted. It didn't seem

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Speaker 1: like it was one of those passes where he, hey,

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Speaker 1: Gino just threw it to the other team, or he

728
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: just made a bad read, or he just ball slipped

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Speaker 1: out his hand. I thought it was a solid pass.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he forced it into a little tight coverage, and

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00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was a contested catch. But I didn't

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00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: think it was a bad decision overall. And I think

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Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two yards on this defense, I

734
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: feel good about that. I'm sure Raiders fans feel real confident.

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00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I thought their defense played really well. And I think, again,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is not going to be out of many

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: of these games. You're not gonna find many games where

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00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll just gets oh, their team gets beat by

739
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: two touchdowns or three touchdowns. Like even when we weren't

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00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: a great team, we didn't lose by much. If we lost,

741
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Speaker 1: it's we're within one score. By the end of the game,

742
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: we're in, we're in striking Wainge, we're fighting, And I

743
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: think he has all the pieces that he needs to

744
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: make these plays and continue to make a run even

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00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: with this defense not as technically talented as as the

746
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Speaker 1: rest of the league. He knows what the guy, the

747
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: guys that he needs, and he's gonna make it work.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Raiders are going to surprise people

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Speaker 1: this year. I think they're gonna be solid. I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be fighting for that seventh seed.

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Speaker 2: I love to see it, man. I mean the Raiders,

752
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: whether they're gonna be contenders or not, I don't think

753
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: they'll be that. But above anything, I think they're going

754
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: to be a solid competitor throughout. And a team that

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00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: caught me really by surprise, Richard, and a player that

756
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: caught me really by surprise. Pittsburgh Steelers Aaron Rodgers. This

757
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: game right here the New York Jets. When you look

758
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: at this game, it'sburg against the Jets. What do you

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00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: think of, Richard? I don't know if I want to

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00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: watch it, Richard, this might have been the game of

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Speaker 2: the day. I mean, you want to talk about an

762
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: absolute shootout, thirty four to thirty two, Steelers beautiful win.

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00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: Late Aaron Rodgers, who is this guy? Two hundred and

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00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: forty four yards four tds, and he found himself a

765
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: new target in DK Metcalf that he appears to love.

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00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: But he was spreading that football around. You saw Calvin

767
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: Austin get involved. I mean, you gotta be curious to

768
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: see what they do in the running game. They were

769
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: getting everyone involved with that. I mean, what are your

770
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: expectations of the Pittsburgh Steelers after this win.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be in the mix. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time in a long time that they've had

773
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Speaker 1: a great quarterback. And not to say Aaron is playing

774
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: necessarily in the spot where he's at his prime. Obviously

775
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: he's past his prime. He's pasted all that. But Ben Roethlisberger,

776
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: they had great quarterback, took them to super Bowls. One

777
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Aaron can do it. And you saw some

778
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: vintage play from Aaron Rodgers, some of the risk flicks,

779
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: the famous wrist flicks that just looks so beautiful on

780
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: the run rolling out, he looked as mobile as he's looked.

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00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't see any any lingering effects from

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Speaker 1: the achilles injury. Sure, he took some sacks, he took

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Speaker 1: some hits, He kept throw pushing. Where's that head Richard

784
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: big hit. He took a big leg, Let's not mistake that,

785
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: no question about it. And he but he's from that

786
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: old guard. He's from that old guard of quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 1: we always talk about the new guys, the Herberts, the

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00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allens, the Lamar Jackson's, the Pat Mahole, But with

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: that old guard, the Drew Brees, Tom Brady, the the

790
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, I mean even flaccos, from that

791
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: old guard of quarterbacks that just before the rules totally changed,

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00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: they played a different game. He was playing in the

793
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: two thousands and so, so he's a tough quarterback. He's

794
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: still wearing a shut helmet mental and he's wearing an

795
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: illegal helmet. I don't think. I don't think the league

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00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: allows anybody else to wear that helmet but him because

797
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: he's grandfathers and I'm pretty sure he has to sign

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: a waiver to wear it because that helmet is not

799
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: it does not pass the safety tests that a lot

800
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: of these helmets must pass in the NFL to be used.

801
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: That's how old school Aaron Rodgers is. He still wears

802
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: the one chin strap, I mean all of it. But

803
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: for him to have the game that he had for

804
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steers Stellers. I know they're what they've just

805
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: seen from their offense for the last couple of years.

806
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: It's just been an eemick. It's been defensive game after

807
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: defensive game after defensive game, and to see your defense

808
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: kind of struggle you don't see many times they're giving

809
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: up thirty two points and feeling good about that. It's

810
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money on that defense. Mitchell, you're paying

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Speaker 1: twenty seven million to Jalen Ramsey at the corner. I

812
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: think you're paying ten. In the sleigh, you're paying Heyward

813
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: close to thirty. You're paying what forty? You know you're

814
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: not expecting to give up thirty two points, but when

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Speaker 1: you do, and you have a quarterback who can get

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Speaker 1: you out of it and win the game. In the

817
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Speaker 1: game winning field goal, did you see it from Boswell? Mitchell?

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Speaker 1: I did. That wasn't a gimmey from the logo. That

819
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: was not a gimmey. They were on the logo game

820
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: winner from the logo. I mean they just had to

821
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Speaker 1: be ecstatic. And another person I was ecstatic for was

822
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: justin Field. Oh yes, what a game for him? What

823
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: a game for Justin Field's got to show his true talent,

824
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: and what he got to show was who he has

825
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: been in at Ohio State and what they drafted. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes you need to change of scenery and Aaron Rodgers,

827
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: they they literally flipped scenes and both of them are

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00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: thriving in their new situations. You can see how Aaron

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00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Glenn wants to use him with his legs, with his arm,

830
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Breise Hall continuing to thrive. You see the passing game

831
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: open up Garrett Wilson. He's hitting Garrett Wilson in stride.

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Speaker 1: You can see their chemistry for many years at OSU.

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00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: That was really cool to see just a team maximizing

834
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Speaker 1: the strengths and talent of their team, of their players,

835
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Speaker 1: of their personnel. He had two touchdowns rushing, one passing touchdown,

836
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Speaker 1: Gary Wilson, seven catches for ninety five yards, and it

837
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: was great to see. Quinn Williams made huge plays in

838
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: this ball game. Put a lot of pressure on Aaron Rodgers.

839
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Speaker 1: Huge hits on Aaron Rodgers TFLs. He continued to show

840
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: what makes him special. But this was a barn burner

841
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: and I think this showed very positive promise for both

842
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: of these offenses. These quarterbacks. Another quarterback. Not to leave

843
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: this game without putting a ribbon on it, but this

844
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: was great. The Pittsburgh Steelers won. I think they're gonna

845
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: be competitive in the North. But Daniel Jones a quarterback

846
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: who who's been much maligned, and I've had enough negative

847
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: things to say to fill up a cavern with because

848
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: he hasn't played well. And sometimes you can't tell if

849
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: it's the player just not being good enough or the

850
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: situation that he's in not being good enough. You really

851
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to figure it out. But today it looks

852
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: like he's in the perfect situation with the Indianapolis Coats,

853
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: both running and passing. He took a shot from Matthew

854
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Judon in that game early in the first quarter, and

855
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was it for him. I thought he

856
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: was gonna be in concussion protocol and he was gonna

857
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: be We're gonna be looking at somebody else played quarterback

858
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis coach. But he did something that no

859
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: quarterback in the last fifty years has done. None of

860
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: the greats. No Tom brad not Aaron Rodgers, not Peyton Manning,

861
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: not Drew Brees, not Montana, not Lway, not any of them, Mitchell,

862
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones did it. He led seven straight scoring drives.

863
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: Not one drive did he line up under center that

864
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: they did not get points. That's never happened before. It's

865
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: look it up.

866
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: It's wild to think about, but I mean, we've had

867
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: the case studies in front of us for the last

868
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: five years. Right You saw Baker Mayfield jump from Cleveland

869
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: to Carolina to Tampa Bay and now he's become one

870
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: of the bigger and better quarterbacks in this league. We've

871
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: seen it with Sam Darnold doing the same kind of thing,

872
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: going from the Jets to Carolina to San Francisco to Minnesota.

873
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: You know where he finds his promised land and gets

874
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 2: his big payday and then ends.

875
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: Up with Seattle.

876
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: Maybe the change of scenery is a good thing from

877
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Richard, I mean, because this looked like he

878
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: was in total command of this offense. And I'm not

879
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. I did not think in my

880
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: wildest dreams that the Dolphins were gonna lose this game.

881
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: I know they had a rough preseason, I know Detroit

882
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: smacked them around pretty good and joint practices up here

883
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: in Detroit, But I thought the Dolphins with everything they

884
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: got two with Tyreek, with Jalen Waddle, you know that

885
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: they would go out there and get the win. But

886
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: this was not even close. And it was from the onset.

887
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones set the tone and they were nasty. I

888
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: mean that the Indianapolis Colts. I don't want to speak

889
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: too soon, but if Daniel Jones keeps playing this level

890
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: of football, this division for the Indianapolis Colts could look

891
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: very promising.

892
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: No question about it. I mean, this is a huge surprise.

893
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins looked like a disas terrible. I mean,

894
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: you talk about to a tongue of II Lowe, who

895
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: was at times in his career a fringe top ten quarterback,

896
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: and debate with somebody else because he played good football

897
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: dead and he looks like a totally different guy. He

898
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: looks shell shocked. He almost looks like he did his

899
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: rookie year when he had just first started getting in

900
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: there and getting reps. When they replaced my guy Ryan

901
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick during Floores his tenure with the Miami Dolphins, where

902
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: it just didn't look like the system worked for him. Well,

903
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: you're in the same system that you've been in. You

904
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: got your money. You've been consistent. Tyreek Keel was in

905
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: the lineup, Waddle's in the lineup. You have your weapons,

906
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: a chains in the lineup. What's holding him back? And

907
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: maybe the offensive line didn't block that great. Maybe that

908
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: there's you know, pieces of that there. But like he's

909
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: been the last few years, so decisive, so quick, like

910
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: he's he's been quick, quick release. You know when you

911
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: talk about time to release, he's been among the league

912
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: leaders and getting the ball out quick. In this game,

913
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: he just was holding on to it. He looked vexed,

914
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: he looked for plex And I know Lou and Roma's

915
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: defense is complicated. It's you know, he throws a lot

916
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: of different exotic looks out there. I know it didn't

917
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: always work out in Cincinnati, but he was working with

918
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: a bear cupboard out in Cincinnati. It looks like he

919
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: has this Indianapolis coach defense playing great football. Multiple interceptions today,

920
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: force fumbles. I mean, they were flying around. They looked

921
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: like a confident bunch and they were just feeding off

922
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: the offense. You look about both sides of it and

923
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: you think, hey, this Indianapolis coach team, all of a

924
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: sudden looks like a very complete team. And now what

925
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: is this AFC South looking like? Who when you thought

926
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: it was a foregone conclusion that it was going to

927
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans who just lost it to the LA Rams,

928
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: Today it looks like the Indianapolis coach will be factoring

929
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: in on that. They will be a big factor in that.

930
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: And that's when you start to get get concerned about

931
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of other things going on. But Daniel Jones

932
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: looks like he found a good system, a good fit

933
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: for his talent. His skill set ran for two touchdowns

934
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: today through four another touchdown, looked comfortable, accurate, confident, all

935
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: the things that you rarely could ever say about him

936
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: when he was with the New York Giant.

937
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 2: That change of scenery could have done the best thing

938
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: ever for Daniel Jones' career. There might have been a

939
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: reason he was drafted to top ten because there were

940
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: so many people that debated it and said, there's no

941
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: way this guy's not a first round pick to begin with,

942
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: but he certainly looked like it tonight. Kudos to the

943
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts for taking a shot on him and saying, hey,

944
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, you're gonna have to take a back seat

945
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: to him. To begin the year because it looks like

946
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: they might have found their guy finally. And Inneapolis, Richard,

947
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: we got to talk about the Washington Commanders and the

948
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: New York Giants. I mean, there's a lot of question

949
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: marks around this New York Giants team, as there should be,

950
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: namely at the quarterback position. A guy you played with

951
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: for a number of years, Russell Wilson steps on center

952
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 2: for the New York Giants. Not that great of a game,

953
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit underwhelming. I guess what you

954
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: would expect to see from Russell at this point in

955
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: his career, but it seemed like he was a bit

956
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: conservative with the football, didn't give his team a whole

957
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: lot of chances. He ended up losing twenty one to six.

958
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: Russell is seventeen of thirty seven for one sixty eight.

959
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: That is an abysmal performance for Russell Wilson. I got

960
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: to hear your thoughts, man, as he steps into the

961
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 2: rains in New York.

962
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: Now you you knew when he and people will keep

963
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: you know they feel how they feel about how I

964
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: feel about Russell Wilson. I just I just tell the truth, guys.

965
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't there's not an emotional aspect of it to

966
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: me that people think he just hasn't played well in

967
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: these with any systems, with these new teams. And it's fine,

968
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: but this offensive line didn't give him a lot of

969
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: time today. They didn't get it wasn't a great opportunity

970
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: for him to have success. I thought the Washington commanders

971
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: did a great job with coverage, exotic looks putting pressure

972
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: on him. They also controlled the clock. They ran the

973
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: ball well. But I thought he was conservative with the football.

974
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: He didn't want to push the ball down the field

975
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: unless it was an obvious one on one situation with neighbors.

976
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't know. I thought he looked like

977
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: he normally looks. He checked the ball down and looked

978
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: for yak. They tried to throw some screens and things

979
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: like that, but I didn't think he wanted to put

980
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: the ball in danger very often. I don't think he

981
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: took a lot of quote unquote risks that would have

982
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: given him his team a chance, would would have given

983
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: him a chance to turn the ball over, or given

984
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: his team a chance to make a huge play. He

985
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: was seventeen of thirty seven, so they threw the ball out.

986
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: He just didn't he didn't complete a lot of those passes. Obviously,

987
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: he was only set twice, but I thought there were

988
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: other opportunities he had to be sacked where you know,

989
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: he either got out of it or threw the ball

990
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: away or something like that. But I think they're gonna

991
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: have to make a decision on whether they want to

992
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: put Jackson Dart in and start letting him develop. I

993
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: know they don't feel great about this offensive line, but

994
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart was very productive in the preseason. He looked

995
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: like a guy who executes the offense really well. And

996
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: you just don't want to fall into too deep of

997
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: a hole during the season where you start to where

998
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: the rest of the team starts to say, hey, this

999
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: is just another bad season and start mailing it in.

1000
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, your own one. You still got a chance,

1001
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: you still got confidence. You still have a really good

1002
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: defensive line that I thought could have played better. But

1003
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: you were going against a team that played in the

1004
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: NFC Championship last year, and to Watchton Commanders, they have

1005
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: a really good defense, they're really talented, they're really veteran.

1006
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: I thought Latimore is a good player. Obviously, our guy

1007
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: friend of the program, Bobby Wagner, one of my best

1008
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: friends is playing really good football. Steal to this day,

1009
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel love to see it. Tyshawn had a touchdown,

1010
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown nineteen yards for this team. He was

1011
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: their leading receiver in this game. I thought he had

1012
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: a tremendous impact and get everything he could. Obviously, you

1013
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: could see the rush there for Terry McLaurin his connection

1014
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: with Jayden Daniels. But I thought Jayden Daniels played a

1015
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: really good game, was accurate and made great decisions sixty

1016
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: eight yards. Russian was in command of it. But I

1017
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: think in order for them to take the next step,

1018
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to see if Jackson Dart is the guy.

1019
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: I know you brought Russ in because you weren't sure

1020
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get in the draft and who you

1021
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: were gonna get. But I think with Malik Neighbors and

1022
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: you could see his frustration on the sideline during this game,

1023
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: something is gonna have to change. If you're just gonna

1024
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: have to tell Russ, hey, you're gonna have to put

1025
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: the ball up. You're gonna have to give him a shot.

1026
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to keep giving him opportunities and push

1027
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: the ball out. You can't just throw it away or

1028
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: hold on to the football. You gotta give these guys

1029
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: a chance win or lose. You know, this isn't gonna

1030
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: be a great offense with him playing in a conservative

1031
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: way like he has. When you have a generational defense

1032
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: or phenomenal defense like he's had in a lot of

1033
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: the games that he's won, then sure you can play

1034
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: not to lose the game. You can play check the

1035
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: ball down, a few big plays here and then in

1036
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, take a few shots and still win

1037
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: the ball game. You can turn the ball over, still

1038
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: depend on your defense and win the ball game. But

1039
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: when your defense isn't playing well or you don't have

1040
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: the weapons, they're gonna need him to elevate this team more.

1041
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna need him to take those opportunities and really

1042
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: showcase his talent to elevate them, a showcase his connection

1043
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: with neighbors, to really elevate this team and to win

1044
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: games like this. I thought they they stayed stuck around

1045
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: in this ball game. It was six to fourteen for

1046
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: a really long time. I mean, their defense kept them

1047
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: in it, and their offense just never made the plays necessary.

1048
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: They you know, they kept sticking around it. If you

1049
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: would have looked up and saw six to fourteen, six

1050
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: six to fourteen, like, hey, they can just make a

1051
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: play somewhere and you can win this game. And I

1052
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: thought they could possibly steal one on the road in Washington.

1053
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: But I think if it happens like this again next week,

1054
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to make a decision to

1055
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: go with Jackson Dart because they're gonna have how much

1056
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: time does Brian Dape does they both have left?

1057
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: He's got very millennimal time left. That's the reality of it.

1058
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean you look at the performance Daniel Jones had

1059
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: today in Indianapolis if he were at the Helm at

1060
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: New York. I mean this in this game because the

1061
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: defense gave him a shot, you know, only giving up

1062
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: twenty one points. And like you said, they were in it.

1063
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: It's not like they were out of it if you

1064
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: had a more competent And that's why I love the

1065
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston signing this offseason. I know the guy's got

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00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: a lot of quirks, but I loved me some Jameis Winston.

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00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: I would not mind him at all in Detroit as

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. The reality is this guy gives his

1069
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: receivers ample opportunity. Whether it ends up in the opposition's

1070
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 2: hand or not, is a story that you know he

1071
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: probably doesn't want written. But I promise you I think

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00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: Melik Neighbors would prefer him at quarterback. I'm telling you

1073
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: that if you ask Melik Neighbors who he wants a quarterback,

1074
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: I would assume it would be Jameis Winston because he

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: gives these guys opportunities. And that's what I think the

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00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: New York Giants need. They need someone who's gonna give

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00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: their receivers, give their skill position players an opportunity. I

1078
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: just don't know if Russell's a guy.

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: They're not good enough to play the brand that exactly

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00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Russell plays exactly. They're not a good enough team they

1081
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: to play the brand that Jamis plays. They're they're fine

1082
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be it's gonna be a feast or famine.

1083
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: Like he's either gonna throw for three hundred and four

1084
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: tds and everybody's gonna eat, or he's gonna throw five interceptions.

1085
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose anyway by three touchdowns, and it is

1086
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: what it is. But your receivers are gonna get opportunities.

1087
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: The ball is gonna be pushed down the field, the

1088
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: offense is gonna be executed that the risks are gonna

1089
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: be taken, and you're gonna see that. I don't know

1090
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get up, Jackson Dart. He's a rookie.

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00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: He played well in the preseason. He executed the offense

1092
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: in the preseason, but the regular season could be totally different.

1093
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: But I don't think playing a conservative, Hey, we're gonna

1094
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: chick the ball down. I'm gonna throw it to the

1095
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: swing and he's gonna get me five or six yards.

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00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: If we got Molik Nighbors one on one, I'll put

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: it up. But if he's not one on one, I'm

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00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: probably not gonna try it. Like I don't think with

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00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: a team like this who need a boost, that's gonna

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: get it done. No, it's not.

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Cardinals. There's not much to talk

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: about here. They played the Saints. I don't know what

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: to expect to the Saints. They kept it somewhat closely,

1104
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 2: had an opportunity down the stretch to tie the game

1105
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: up late and naturally didn't. The Cardinals go on the road,

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: get a win. Kyler Murray looked somewhat impressive, albeit his

1107
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: stat line didn't look great. I know he was sick

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00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: coming into this game. Marvin Harrison Junior finally looked like

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00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: he was a top ten pick that he was. Your

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: thoughts on this Arizona Cardinals team, especially in the NFC

1111
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: West Division, do you have any you know, hesitation when

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Speaker 2: it comes to the San Francisco forty nine ers thel Seahawks.

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: What is this opposition like in the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I like the Arizona Cardinals and what

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: they they do defensively. I mean, I just think the

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Saints aren't a great team right now. You know a

1117
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: lot of people have them picking in the top of

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Speaker 1: the draft next year, which means they're having an awful season.

1119
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: So a twenty to thirteen ball game against the Saints

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Speaker 1: when the Saints had a chance in the red zone

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Speaker 1: to tie this game at the end of the game,

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01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you feel great about it.

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: Coder Murray was sacked five times, Marvin Harrison made some

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01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: huge plays and you feel great about that. Buddha Baker,

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01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: their most consistent player over the years, continues to be

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: that I don't think this game really gives us much

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01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: about who the Cardinals are. We're gonna see them, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to see them in the division. Versus the Rams,

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Speaker 1: versus the Seahawks versus the San Francisco forty nine is

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: for us really assess how strong this team is. But

1131
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: a win is a winning the National Football League. And

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01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: they won this game. They found a way to get

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01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: it done. But I don't think this game told us anything.

1134
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: And then we got to look at the La Rams.

1135
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean they get to win albeit and you know,

1136
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 2: nothing fascy or flashy. I mean they won fourteen to nine.

1137
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: Pooka the cool got absolutely smoked, and so did Devonte Adams.

1138
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you saw that hit with Derek Stingly Junior

1139
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: just getting bent over. It was just a nasty, gruesome hit.

1140
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: You gotta look at it and see this Rams team

1141
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: and say, wow, we're lucky to even walk away from

1142
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: this game with both of our top wideouts still able

1143
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: to play next week. It's a big win for them.

1144
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: The grand scheme of things. The Houston Texans are no

1145
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: easy opponent, and they get they get a home win

1146
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: against them, And your thoughts on stafford A relatively impressive game.

1147
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: Two hundred and forty five yards passing with a touchdown,

1148
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: poking to cool ten receptions for one hundred and thirty yards.

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01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this La Rams team.

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: Well, they're they're you know, in time you have Stanford

1151
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: Stafford out there, you're gonna have a chance, you know.

1152
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: But I thought they battle. I thought this was a gritty,

1153
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: grimy game where they had the scratch and claw. But

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: it just shows their poise, their metal against a Houston

1155
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: Texans team that is expected to be really competitive on

1156
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: the AFC side, a really good defense, really great defensive

1157
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: line and pass rush. They got three sacks today. A

1158
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: quarterback who's who's considered one of the top of the

1159
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: National Football League, at least the top ten quarterback in

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and they held this team to

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: attend to nine points. They held them nine points. They

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01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: held Stroud to one hundred and eighty or eight yards passing,

1163
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: no touchdowns and interception, and they sacked them three times.

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: I think you have to get this defense a lot

1165
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: of credit in the interception, I mean by Durant. By Durant,

1166
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I don't know if you saw it, Mitchell,

1167
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: but it was a side grabbed barely got his feed in.

1168
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: It looked like the receiver might have called it. He

1169
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: took it off the receiver's hands. It was a beautiful play.

1170
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: But you got to give this defense a lot of credit.

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: They weren't expected to be anything super special. Their d

1172
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: line has a lot of talent, obviously, Jared versus the

1173
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: name household name these days, and again they gave the

1174
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles all they could handle in that divisional game

1175
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: in the snow in Philadelphia. And if again, if it

1176
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: wasn't for Jalen Carter and the play he made it

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: at the end of that game, we may have been

1178
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: having a different NFC Championship game between the Washington Commanders

1179
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: and the LA Rams, And who knows how that would

1180
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: have went and how the Super Bowl would have changed accordingly,

1181
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: but it didn't. But you're just talking about how competitive

1182
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: this team is. You talked about how great Sean McVay

1183
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: and their defensive coordinator Chris Shula have been and just

1184
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: maximizing the talent that they have. And I think that's

1185
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: what the definition, I mean, that's what defined this game.

1186
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: James Stafford continues to find a way to get things done.

1187
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: But that defense is really what we won this guy.

1188
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: And finally, Richard, we got to talk about Pat Sartan.

1189
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we can talk about the game if you want.

1190
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: Denver took down the Tennessee Titans, but Pat Certan it

1191
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: did not allow a catch as the nearest defender on

1192
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: thirty four defensive snats for the eighth time in his career.

1193
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: I know you respect him as a player, but how

1194
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: good is this guy? I mean, break him down for

1195
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: our audience here, because you are the perfect person to

1196
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: talk to about cornerback play in this league.

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Speaker 1: I tried to explain it many times before. He's just

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01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: the most sound, technically, the best in moments, and you

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Speaker 1: talk about it. If you talk about the balance of

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01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: a cornerback his press coverage, How great is he at

1201
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: press coverage? We would say Patrick stan is ninety eight?

1202
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 1: How great is his off coverage? If you talk about

1203
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Shtan, you're talking about like a ninety eight. How

1204
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: great is he at tackling? Again, he's very sound, I'd

1205
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: say ninety two, very fast, very athletic, great ball skills.

1206
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: He's just a guy that has a high IQ. He's

1207
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: tailor made to cover people. Mitchell, you could. I'm surprised

1208
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: his father didn't put Blanket in there as his nickname Mitchell,

1209
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: because he's always so covering guys so well. He's always there,

1210
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: he always near. He got one target today and he

1211
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: batted it down. The reason he won't have the high

1212
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: interception numbers is because they won't continue to target him.

1213
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: They'll go at Riley Moss or anybody but Pastrick Surtam

1214
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: because of how great he is. And it's regardless of

1215
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: who the number one receiver is. He was on Calvin

1216
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: Ridley twenty seven of his thirty two routes. Obviously, Galvin

1217
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: Ridley didn't have a great game, and he's the best

1218
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: the National Football League has to offer right now at

1219
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: the cornerback spot. I think if they go to the

1220
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: Olympics and have seven on seven and do all that,

1221
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be involved in it. And I would imagine,

1222
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: whoever you are, you better bring Patrick sartin. He's the

1223
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: best cover corner in the National Football League. And I

1224
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: think again when you talk about just looking at his tape,

1225
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: his tape will be used to teach corners how to

1226
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: play the position for years to come. I'm talking about

1227
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: press off the patience, his step replaced his soft shoe.

1228
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: He's just an incredibly technical corner who also is really

1229
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: athletic and and as a gamer, he plays well on

1230
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: game day. I got to go through the all twenty

1231
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: two to really break down the specific coverages that they're running.

1232
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: But they're running a lot of man coverage. That's what

1233
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph likes to run. That's the corners that he employs.

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: That's the defense that they that they employ majority of

1235
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: the time. So I wouldn't guess that he's in zones

1236
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: or any anything like that. He's playing man and man

1237
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: coverage and he's striving. He's again the class of the NFL.

1238
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: He's the reigning defensive Player of the Year. There's not

1239
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: enough positive things to say about.

1240
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: Well, Richard. That was week one. I mean, it was

1241
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: great to be back. First and foremost, we love you guys.

1242
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: We appreciate you tuning in every week. Richard. I know

1243
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna be out here weekend and week out. We

1244
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: got Darius big Place Sligh joining the podcast here weekly.

1245
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna have another host to guests. How excited are you,

1246
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman to be back here with the Richard Truman Podcast.

1247
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot, or you have been talking

1248
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: a lot this offseason when we finally got some real

1249
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: games to talk about. How pumped are you to have

1250
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: Week one upon us now?

1251
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly excited, and I'm thankful for every single one

1252
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: of you that tuned in and listen to me every

1253
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: single week. I really appreciate you from the bottom of

1254
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: my heart for supporting this dream and my ambition to

1255
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: speak this game and to incite to it and inject

1256
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: by knowledge an opinion on all of you wonderful people.

1257
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I think this is gonna be

1258
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: a fantastic I love it. For the teams that won.

1259
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: If your team loss, don't lose hope, all is not lost.

1260
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: All just about every team and minus the Miami Dolphins

1261
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: that was good, showed some promise, showed some positive things,

1262
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: showed some things that their team can build on. One

1263
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: loss does not end the season. One win doesn't guarantee

1264
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: you a Super Bowl. So keep hope alive. It's gonna

1265
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: be a phenomenal year and I cannot wait. Make sure

1266
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: you hit that sub button if you knew, stay with

1267
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: us all season long, because we're gonna be providing incredible

1268
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: NFL inside all season long. We're gonna have some Pittsburgh

1269
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: Steelers inside when Big Plays site because I got some

1270
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 1: questions in that game. I know they're gonna feel good

1271
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: about the win, but I know Big Play they don't

1272
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: want to give up thirty two points, a lot of

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Speaker 1: money on that defense. So I can't wait to talk

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Speaker 1: to Big Play about that game, the big hit by

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, all those great things going forward. Stay tuned