1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Still the substitute. Y'all still got the substitute teacher. Mr 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: O'Brien will be back tomorrow. But I have one last 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: blooper video I want to show y'all. But before we 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: do that, let's get into this show. Hello Internet, Hello class, 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and welcome to season one nine, Episode one of the 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist production of My Heart Radio. This is the 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: podcast where we kick off America's old Roden skull and 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: be like, what the fuck? Okay? All right? Is everybody 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: saying this? Everyone? Okay? Okay? So everyone okay, can we 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: can talk about this? Great? And we say, officially off 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: the top, fuck the Cooke Brothers, Fuck Fox News. Funk 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: rush Buck says bucks Buck. Fuck Buck Sexton got tied, 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: tongue tied on that one. Fuck j K Rowling. Fuck 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: any motherfucker standing in the evening in the way of quality. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: And okay, it's Monday, June twenty. My name is Miles 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: ray a k A boo. Allow me to re introduce myself. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: My name is Cole to the ninety. Okay, that's in 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: reference to probably the second wave of infections that could 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: be happening, and that was I think I meeting my 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: saw on the internet because man, people are really reckless 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: out here without these masks, and I can only imagine 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: what could happen down the road. Um, but enough about me. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: I am to be joined by my co host from Heaven, 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: from on High, from the land of Scams. It's a 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: scam goddess herself, just the fucking genius Lacey Mosley. Yes, 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: let's up a cigarette scam goddess. Ak. They have got jacked, 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: but at least I'm a lot Scamo me me me, 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Scamo me me me, scam on me beautiful? Who gave 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: you that one? Is that from you? I wrote that 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: one too real quick. You are just a visionary you 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: not these vocals are trash. But don't be humbled. People 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: heard the kiss from Arose one. I'm pretty sure it 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: already went gold and it's number fifteen on the iTunes charts. Yeah, 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: so that the stand worked out great. He is with me, well, Lacy. 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: We are very honored, thrilled to be joined by somebody 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: I have really uh funcked with on the Internet and 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Twitter for a long time now. Uh and it's just 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: super dope to have this man on the show. Now, 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: the brilliant, talented hilarious, comedian, writer, activists, whatever you want 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: to call him, because he's everything. Welcome, Mama, do and 41 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: g I, Hey, thank you so much for having me, 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. You got some If you don't 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: have a I don't have a song. I just want 44 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: to say that, like, the top three songs of the 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: summer gotta be the hip hop Harry Bee. That's that. 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be playing that at a party on June. 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Team's got up. Yeah, Hey, hey, absolutely gonna be playing 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: that second one. You're about to lose your job. That 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: lady shout out to you gave us a classic, a banger. 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: And then finally my favorite song of this whole pro 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: test cycles and YPD suck my Dick. I love it. 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: I have a single permutation of it, and um, you 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: know definitely I'm sorry, Lacy, but it's like right under yours. 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: You better make sure that you can be pushing yours 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: to the top of that billboard chart because I also 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: always stuck my bed. I want Yeah. When people bring 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: up a lot of these songs from the protests, I 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: always have to mention that one the Detroit techno one 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: with the man like the bombed out Car, No justice, 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: no peace buck these racist as closi that would is 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: a fucking banguard. It's always funny to be at protests 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: and see cops starting to like dance a little bit 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: to like what we're yelling at them kind of goes 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: it's about us. We felt like st just these racist 65 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: wait wait wait yea, whose streets are streets? Were wrong? Though, 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: sometimes because sometimes some white people be like whose streets 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: are streets? Some like yours? Like these specific streets are 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: not yours. No, definitely not that street, says Malcolm X. 69 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Our streets. I'm on the intersection of the MLK and Crunchhaw. 70 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: These are our streets? Are Mama? Do Before we get 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: to know you and let our listeners get to know you, 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: we'll just kind of walk through what we're going to 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: talk about in this episode. Um, you know, I think 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: it's a great time to talk about you know, Mama 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: Doo wrote a brilliant piece and Vulture that I really 76 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: encourage many people to read about navigating Hollywood and the 77 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: policing of black voices in the industry. So I think 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: we'll get a little bit of talk from especially you 79 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: and Lacy, because you know, you guys are know how 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: to Hollywood while black, uh, and kind of get some 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: takes on that, as well as talk about AMC going 82 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: mask off, then mask on or mask off again, depending 83 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: on if the mask is literal or metaphorical. Um, but 84 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: we'll get into that as well as conservatives are like, 85 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: they're acting like they're canceling Jimmy Kimmel for his there's 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of weaponizing of the moment I'm seeing from 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: really bad faith actors, especially on the right, who suddenly 88 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: forget what their entire platform is built on. So we'll 89 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: talk about that and maybe the re emergence of junk 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: food in the pandemic, because we are just trying to 91 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: comfort ourselves. Uh. But first, Mama, do what's something from 92 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Um. 93 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I tried to search if there's any trap remixes of 94 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the hip hop Harry beat. I'm deejaying a party later, 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I want I need people to 96 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: be out here moving the goddamn feet to this be 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: because at first, when I heard the song, I was like, 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: oh man, this is so annoying. It's probably gonna be 99 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: a meeting for this whole summer. But now when right 100 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: here it there's like a joy of me and I 101 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of need to hear you these figures up, go 102 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: go go. I just need that. You know that sounds 103 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: so good before I was takey oh my god, Yo. 104 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to mix it DJ too, so like I'm 105 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: trying to mix it with uproar by Little Wayne right 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: now because there's the five for three to that part, like, 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: and try and mix it with the Ghost. And I'm 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna say once I once I get my record and 109 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: set up figured out that ship that's about to go up. Wait, 110 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: so you're DJ and what like a zoom party or 111 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: you like good a blast speakers out into like a 112 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: block party? What's the set up? I'm going to a 113 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Juneteenth party in Williamsburg, h And it's uh, basically just 114 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: the celebration of June block party. Look, it's gonna be 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: a rooftop party actually so yeah. So I'm just gonna 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: be on the roof and there's like yo play stuff 117 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: that gets people hype. I'm just like, fam, I've not 118 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: thought about djaying a party in three months, and now 119 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I got to get up there and make these people hype. 120 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my damn this, and I think that's 121 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the first song. Okay, wait a minute, is 122 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: everyone going to be a mass as? People are gonna 123 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: be social distancing? Our new gro is gonna be grinding. 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn that sh it off the moment. I'll 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: be Hey, you want to play like middle school dance songs? 126 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Do you have no no slow grinds going on? Remember 127 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Brian with me? How pretty ricky friend down me? We're like, 128 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I guess we have to do what the song says. 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Is there a kids about version of that? Because I 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: don't think there could be, Like you like, what is 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that gonna say of next? Too close? Kids? Yeah? I 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: mean there's so many Oh god, you're making it's fun 133 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: for me, You're making it fill with blood gross, so gross. 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: There's like a scientific version. What's the one that you 135 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: do with sex with Me so amazing by Rihanna? Oh No, 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: that wasn't mean, that wasn't be but I was lefting 137 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: so hard? What was it? Um something? Know, It's like 138 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: it's like it's like is it ice cream? Yeah? People 139 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: are out here trying to watch us figure out a 140 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: meme in real time. But right that's the most podcasts are, 141 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it on 142 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: my Instagram so I find it. It's so it's like 143 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: it's something raising so amazing, like oh or something and raising. 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: It's like ice cream me, so I cream with something raisin. Anyway, 145 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: It's very funny woman. You know the kids A Bob 146 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: industrial complex has gone on for too long, and I 147 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: will have it. I just listen to the songs as 148 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: a as a former DJ used to get on the 149 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: ones and twos himself. Or what's your set up? Mom? 150 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: With on cerato? You are you hlugging around milk crates 151 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: with the heavy vinyl? What are we talking your CDJ? No? No, 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't have the cardio or the back strength for 153 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: the for the virus, but I have I have. I 154 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: have a Newmark n S seven too. That's two job 155 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: wheels that will motorized and I run and run Serato 156 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: to have a four debt capability, but I don't run 157 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: to mostly. And I'm the type of person to be 158 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: playing uh you know, I'll play Abba and right into 159 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Montell Jordan and that I'm that type. So that's the 160 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: best kind when you're just like everything will be good 161 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: music there's no like real aesthetic aside from everything is good, 162 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Everything is fun, and I just like to surprise people, 163 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Like I played the Avenger's theme at a party once 164 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and everybody got really mad at me. And then I 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: mixed it. I mixed it with Asap ferg and and 166 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: then it changed. Everything changed up, looks invented music work. Yeah, 167 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: that beat Boy changed the whole vibe of that. I'll 168 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: put a snippet of I put a snippet of it 169 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter once, but I deleted it because I was embarrassed. 170 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is not who I am. Uh 171 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: mam wadud. What is something you think is underrated? Something 172 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: I think is underrated? I have to say the original 173 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: motion picture Space Jam? Oh wow, Okay, yeah, I think 174 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it's underrated as a movie because I think 175 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: people always are like, yo, Michael Jordan can't act. I'm like, yeah, 176 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: but like I can't act. But he also had to 177 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: act against like random green things running around like actual people, 178 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, like um, and I think that you know, 179 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: there wasn't that much in the Jordan doc about Space 180 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: Jam at all, but like there was like that good 181 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: there's like that good eight minute chunk where it was like, 182 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: oh cool, they built that court and it was again 183 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: it was mostly about how he was using that time 184 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: for his career when I would have settled for a 185 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: full on space jam like featurette behind the scenes, right, 186 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I would love to have seen clips behind the scenes 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: of that. Also, like as an actor acting with their 188 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: not being stuff, They're like, it's so hard so for 189 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: you to have limited acting experience, and then they're like, 190 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: now this thing is next to you and it's fly 191 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: Like that's a lot. He's literally looking at nothing, look 192 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: at this tennis ball and cry like exactly, and people 193 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: are out here playing like wild wild wild zone defense 194 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: on him, and he's out here here pretending that like 195 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: know what is on him. And I think in the 196 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: same ship with like Star Wars, like the prequel movies, 197 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Like there's definitely like a renaissance of them now, but 198 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: like they're pretty bad, but I feel bad. There's like 199 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: grown as people acting against nothing, not talking, Like there's 200 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: six Shakespearean actors who went to like you know, Royal 201 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: Shakespeare Academy that know how to do that stuff that 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: like it's just the stage. But then there's like Hayden 203 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Christensen who's like I gotta talk to the jar who 204 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: is this nigger? Like I felt so bad so I 205 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: mean it ruined Jake Lloyd's entire career basically. You know 206 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: yo listen that. I mean we talked like imagine like 207 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: that was analog Twitter. You know, it's back when you 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: needed to write a letter and say kill yourself to 209 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: someone like yeah exactly, just be like oh hunder forty 210 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: and set that out people up to their premier because 211 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: you're like, I know he's gonna be there. I'll get 212 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll wait with all the fans like Mary's nine years old. 213 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: And then it was like this is justified, and I'm like, 214 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: what do you? Never wouldn't be so bad that somebody 215 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: will use their gas money to pull up to me. 216 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: I never want to be so bad that people are like, nope, 217 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking a day off work, kids play, going to pizza. 218 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: I gotta go tell Lazy how bad she isn't oh, 219 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine ever doing anything so bad that like 220 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: in like in Hollywood, in a movie where people gotta 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: pull up to me at like t J Max and 222 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you better be in the clearancile who 223 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: they didn't pay you anything at all like, that's just 224 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: bad rude. So yeah, and like shout out to Star 225 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: Wars fandom, not racist at all, some of the best 226 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: people I know. Yeah, it's like such a such a 227 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: mixed bag over there. Yeah, it seems to be pretty nice. Yeah, 228 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: what about this mom would do? What do you think 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: it's something that is overrated? Something that's overrated? Wow, I'm 230 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: about to make it kind of hot. I don't know 231 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: how I think about it. What we love. It's cold 232 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: in here, you can turn up, you can turn it 233 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think I think, I know 234 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: it's untem this is gonna catch me some flak. But 235 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: like I think, I think shop Flid is overrated. Oh 236 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: the silence is that we're gonna do. He's gonna be 237 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: a mature like that. I think chocolate is overrated. Oh 238 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: just okay, look, present your case, my honor, Thank you gladly. 239 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's as popping as people make 240 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: it out to be. And that and I'm not saying that. 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: I think that, Like, there's definitely chocolate industrial complex in 242 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: there too, like holidays and chocolate, right, there's other stuff 243 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: that's also good. And I think that because you're like 244 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: looking at a chocolate woman right now. So it's just yeah, 245 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: and the and that's the thing. I'm sorry I'm saying. 246 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're not a sweet person. I'm 247 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: just saying that chocolate has been treated as the sweetest 248 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: thing in the world for two arguably is I just 249 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: I'm that and it's arguably is that's the thing. And 250 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: also to your point, is arguably isn't. So it's I 251 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: don't think it's as popping as it should be and 252 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: for me personally, and again he asked me, I just 253 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: want to be clear just what I just know you 254 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: can have that opinion. I mean, it's just like how 255 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump stares directly into the sun and tries to 256 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: fight it, you know, during a clinpse, Like you can 257 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: fight anything, So if you want to fight, you can 258 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: fight the sun. You know. The part is that I 259 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: feel like you want me to go to like the 260 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: candy out after Valentine's they just staring down chocolate now 261 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: like because I will, I'll be like, I dare you 262 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to off, Like that's not how I am. So just 263 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: sucking all the Russell Stover's boxes off the shovel, like yeah, 264 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: who is that needs to just go ahead and keep 265 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: it two virgils and just tell us why you tell 266 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: us that they're the last minute chocolate for your side 267 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: girls and for when you forgot about your wife. Have 268 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: any of you had to explain the virgils thing to anybody? 269 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: You're like people people saying like a Virgil to virgils, 270 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, like we've been in bondage for 271 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: about what eight virgils? People like what, it's really funny 272 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: and like, well is that, Like I'm what's like, okay, 273 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: so Virgil Ablow only gave fifty never mind, you know, 274 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: it's a whole story. Like you know, it might not 275 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: be for you, you know, but you don't know. You 276 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: don't go because I'm like, finally we're getting like some 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: of our own language back that feels like it can't 278 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: be sold and bought by white folks for money because 279 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: they love to take. Like remember Fleek they destroyed that 280 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: in a week. Remember for Shizl. I'm still mad about 281 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: for Chisel we had for ship hours before they were 282 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: like for shiz All my nansel and I was like, 283 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: well there it goes snoop, pack it up. So I'm 284 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: glad that we keep that at Hotep jokes because they 285 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: don't get right. So we were like, what dr Umar 286 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: and why should I know what Yakubian. I will say though, 287 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: the funniest shiit to me in the world is seeing 288 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: a kufy on a white person. That's like when Nancy 289 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Pelos never taken any say cloth. I'm like, bro, they 290 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: say't even right, it's nothing that you thought you did it. 291 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: But yeah. It was the first time I had gone 292 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: to Ghana in West Africa. I had met this Canadian 293 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: man who married a local woman and basically became an elder, 294 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: like a chief of his area. So he had the 295 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: designation of Nana so he was called Nana Dave. He 296 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: was like this, yes, and he had had this, he 297 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: had this Ghanaian wife. They are they are full out 298 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: kente like you know, because that's a very Ghanaian thing, 299 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: like they're a kinta cloth. And I saw this. I 300 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: was like, are you for I'm like this Canadian. I mean, 301 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: he's he's out here, he's like building a hotel and 302 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: like trying to do something like and live in the community. 303 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: But it was like very jarring when you see like 304 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: white people were like oh yeah, Like I had to 305 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: get out of there. And I had just come to Africa, 306 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'd be sick, bro if I was 307 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: West Africa. And I went about to West Africa and 308 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: some dude named Spencer was running my town. I beat 309 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: the ship out of there, like I was like this, 310 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: and people na Chad, Like it is not not Chad. 311 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: He runs our village. That's not not Taylor, that's not 312 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: like him, and that's not Karen, and that's not not Kaylee. Hey, 313 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't I could. I couldn't do it. I 314 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: don't literally, Like I think that's the why I think 315 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: about Africa is that people don't realize that. Like some 316 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: people are like, yo, I can't do this America ship 317 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: and they're black and they go there, and there's some 318 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: people who are white, like I can't do America ship 319 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: where things are set up for you to be the successful, 320 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: either honestly or not, and you go to Africa and 321 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: then you somehow find yourself running ship that's white supremacy 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: right right right exactly, full circle like on that savior 323 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: behavior where I'm gonna provide your jobs and savior behavior. 324 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: Gotta let it, baby, Yeah, Dave, Dave, I can't. I'm 325 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: not joking. I gotta find this photo. It was like 326 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: a J. C. Penny Mall portrait of like distinct like 327 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: like you know how these portraits look normally of like 328 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: a village elder or something like. It's very stoic imposed 329 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: and just to see this dude who was like sun 330 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: burnt to ship, uh and like with his wife but 331 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: very like we're out here, uh, is surreal photo. It's 332 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: also like it's like wild Olan mills, like kind of blue, 333 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: kind of little textured background and it's got to Africa 334 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: African person and not the opposite African person and they 335 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: just standing there. Oh god, it's trigger uh. And finally, Mamado, 336 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: what is a myth? What is something people think is 337 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: true that you know is false, or what is something 338 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: people think is false that you know is actually true. 339 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: I think the thing that I think is false that 340 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: a lot of people assume it is true is that 341 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: Desani is water. I in my idea, do not believe. 342 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: I have no idea what is coming from that? Yeah? 343 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: Under and myths and stuff like shots at me, like 344 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: he didn't even talk about that Pepperoni pineapple, Hallepeenio pizza. 345 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: You were eating. Before we started, I let it rock. 346 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: I talked to God and I was like, yeah, y'all 347 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: need to get your taste buds up. Okay, because my 348 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: taste buds are on mansion status. My taste buds definitely 349 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: don't pay taxes. My taste buds are on that billionaire ship, 350 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: and y'all need to like. My taste bud's got a 351 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: p P P loan. It's also and they definitely shouldn't 352 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: have forget. It's brave of you in an anti capitalist 353 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: world to be like, I got billionaire taste buds. They 354 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: guilty straight for your tongue. It's gonna be a pack 355 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: up for you. I'm just saying I think the Saani 356 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: is lying about being water. I think it's invitation water. 357 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: It's not about you. I'm just saying it's bad. It's 358 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: all a reference. Okay. So for a full disclosure or 359 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: full transparency. Prior to this, Lacy was eating a slice 360 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: I would say eating because I was hungry, and she 361 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: was having a slice of pepper oony pineapple Hallepeenio pizza 362 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: as well as can do. You want to run down 363 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: the story of why you were as I look at 364 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: you right now, in the zoom call, you were drinking 365 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: from a d Saani bottle. Is it tap water? Say bottle? 366 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: You're doing that fancy thing where you fill up a 367 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: Fiji bottle the top water. It's desagny and it tastes 368 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: like oppression. And honestly, did you didn't buy that, did 369 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: you know? So? You know how Coke owns De Saigny, 370 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: and they we keep telling Coke like, y'all, we don't 371 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: want to drink this. This dirt water minerals is dirt. 372 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: You're not checking us, Please stop with the dirt water. 373 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: They're like, we don't care. We're gonna keep giving dirt 374 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: water because we're packed up with coke industries. So you 375 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: know what, every time you bout Coca Cola, you get 376 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: a designy. So I ordered from the pizza place and 377 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: unfortunately they're sponsored or they're they're partnered with Coca Cola, 378 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: so they only give you dirt water. And I ordered 379 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: a couple of dirt waters, and now I gotta drink them. 380 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: Do you like aquafina better than jas anything over jasany like? 381 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Because it's the same thing with street water. That's just 382 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: Pepsi's version of you know, like repurified water. So you know, 383 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's not great either, but I 384 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: like it better. I'm like a smart water girl. I 385 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: love a Voss with billionaire taste buds. Smart water, get that, 386 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: I and I I and I get those. Get those electrolytes. 387 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: Alkala alkaline water. I don't even know what the alkalines are, 388 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: but whatever put it in my veins. Don't give a funk. 389 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: It sounds different than water I'll take. They're like it's charged. 390 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, great, I'm going to be charged up. Sounds good. 391 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: I just fundamentally don't believe that when I'm drinking water. 392 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: It needs to convince me it's water while I'm drinking it. 393 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about de Sani. I'm like, 394 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: it's like when you open the bottle, goes, I'm water, 395 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: I swear, and then you drink it and it's it's 396 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: not and it like hisses like as if it were 397 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: like there was it was pressurized. It's like that's what 398 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: water sounds like, right, I mean, sure there could be 399 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: some sound of water. The tall map on the call 400 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: map commercial, it's like take fifteen seconds and it's like rain, 401 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: it's under it sound like that. It's funny, like you, 402 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Desani has its own rep like even as in memed 403 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: bottle of water. Like I remember some of the first 404 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: memes we were seeing out of people going on runs 405 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: to supermarkets during the pandemic. It was everybody took everything 406 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: except the desagny, like even people knew. It's like, well 407 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't, I just might as well as drink from 408 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: the tap. But at that point people are still like, 409 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: it's still there. I don't know. It must be just 410 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: cheap as fun for them to make. Water should not 411 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: be heavy, it should not be thick, as water should 412 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: not be sold to people in general. I think that's 413 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: actually let's actually go back a step and like nobody 414 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: should be bottling fucking water and selling it because we're 415 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: literally we're just sucking the fucking life out of different 416 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: places on Earth and be like here you going, man, 417 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: don't don't worry about the fucking the crop failure over there. 418 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: You've got water over here now. But I haven't bought 419 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Vegas. So but that's that might be what it is. 420 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Maybe Desagni is actually woke because it's not even water. 421 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: Everyone else is terrible and Desaani, which is poison is 422 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: actually just bottle poison like ethical because we take reclaim 423 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: sewage water and squeeze all the ship out of it 424 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: till it grows clear and bottle that purified doky WATERMA question. 425 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Then the sauny water or a sip from that puddle 426 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: in front of the Hot Dog Stand Broadway on Broadway, 427 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: I would I would drink that twice before the Sawny. 428 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: And also that random drop of water in New York 429 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: that falls down gallons gallons gallons. You put me in 430 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: the Gatorade commercial for that ship. Honestly, I was. Last 431 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: time I was in New York in the summer, I 432 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: was standing on a corner in Chinatown. Uh, did not 433 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: realize there was a big gas puddle of meat in 434 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: front of me in a truck just fucking flashed me. 435 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: And I got water. I got curb water in my mouth, 436 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Hot New York curbwater in my mouth. I will still 437 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: take that over to Sagny. I was like, I don't know, 438 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: wasn't that you can taste they at least yeah, like, well, 439 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: at least I know it's asphalt, like I'm seeing, yeah, 440 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: great and whatever, random garbage water. It's like it's like 441 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: that meme of Pam from the office, which I can't 442 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: tell the difference is just de sagny and puddle water 443 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: your ladder. I don't know the difference. All Right, We're 444 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break to do a couple of 445 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: beer bods at Suny and get our heads right and 446 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: we'll be right back after that. And we are back 447 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: and let's just uh, let's just keep it moving right 448 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: into uh some stories that were some causes, some things 449 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: over the weekend. A full disclosure, we are recording this 450 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: on June tenth, uh, so you know, that's just what 451 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: it is. It's coming out Monday, So we don't know 452 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: what happened over the weekend um in Tulsa. I can 453 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: only imagine what news that could bring. But we'll be 454 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: talking about that obviously in the next episode. But for now, 455 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: let's address something that was pretty big at the end 456 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: of last week was when AMC theaters. You know, they're 457 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: about to reopen hundreds of locations on July fift in 458 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: this country, and they essentially said, you know what, when 459 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: we open, we're not going to require patrons to wear 460 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: masks despite there being a pandemic. Uh. And this was 461 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: the reasoning, the CEO of AMC gave quote, we did 462 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: not want to be drawn into a political controversy. We 463 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: thought it might be counterproductive if we forced mask wearing 464 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: on those people who believe strongly that it is not necessary. 465 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: We think that the vast majority of AMC guests will 466 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: be wearing masks. When I go to an AMC feature, 467 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I will certainly be wearing a mask and leading by example. Okay, 468 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: when that came out, I think most people were like, 469 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: what in the holy fuck is going on over there? 470 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: We are in a pandemic where the numbers are not 471 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: going down, They're only going up. We're aggressively reopening against 472 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: the word of every scientist ever basically and anybody with 473 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: half a brain and all because what you you got 474 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: to make sure you get that money for the Tenant premiere. 475 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: I mean that's Chris Nolan baby, Like my man is like, 476 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: I gotta get that. And honestly, you know what, I 477 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: think Coronavirus might actually be super super racist because that's 478 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: the only movie that no one's made that has a 479 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: black lead, right, Yeah, I mean I mean it's wild 480 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: because like listen, I'll say I'm a member of MC 481 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: Stubbs Club and not trying to flex, just saying it's 482 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: what I want to do. But I ain't trying to 483 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: go to even a movie theaters when there's no masks, 484 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: and I feel like I don't want to be there 485 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: for other reasons. And I feel like right now, like 486 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: this is not the most important thing that we got 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: to be dealing with, Like why would you ever like 488 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: promote that we are going to allow congregations of people 489 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: to be doing a thing together and just breathe the 490 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: same musty old theater street air. The logic um apparently 491 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: that they're applying is like, well, look, people are wearing masks, 492 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: they're not talking, They'll all be facing the same direction. 493 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: Masks will only be off while eating popcorn or having 494 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: a seat or drink or whatever. And that's like they're 495 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: flimsy ASTs logic. And then when CNN press them for 496 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: the but like, what are you actually doing aside from 497 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: just saying like don't wear like what what else can 498 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: you say you're doing to keep people safe? And this 499 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: is what this is the direct answer from the representative 500 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: from MC in this interview quote the things you would expect, 501 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: We're of course doing social distancing seat limitations, intensified creating protocols, 502 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: employee health procedures, contactless ticketing, mobile food and beverage ordering. 503 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: But we've also invested millions of dollars in high tech 504 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: solutions to purify in our theaters. We're buying electrostatic sprayers 505 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: hep of vacuums, MERV thirteen ventilation air filters. We're taking 506 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: the safety and health of our guests and our associates 507 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: as seriously as we possibly can, except allowing people without 508 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: masks to enter your theater. What the funk are y'all 509 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: even talking about? It? Is also like y'all don't have 510 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: no win, Like this is actually like a Petri dish 511 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: that you're asking people to go to where there's no windows, 512 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: airflow is low, electrostatic sprayers hep of vacuums and MERV lace. 513 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: Let me say this one more time, MERV thirteen ventilation 514 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: air filters, not MERV twelve, because we remember what happened 515 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: with those. Yes, it's wild. I feel like I don't 516 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: even remember the first twelve mervs and we are on 517 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: thirteen and hopefully it's gonna save ship. You know what, No, 518 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: I think that it's also like it's what I'm trying 519 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: to think of, Like what it's the opposite, Like you know, 520 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: because if you take your mask down, if you take 521 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: your mask off, it's a popcorn coronavirus everywhere, bro, especially 522 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: in like a dense dark room where like I'm not 523 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: an epidemiologist, but if you're in a trap room and 524 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a high risk coronavirus and everyone's pulling their mask 525 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: off for a little bit, you don't know who's asymptomatic. 526 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: You don't know any of this sort of ship. And 527 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: on top of that, it's like what are you gonna do. 528 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna have like a mask, but then you have 529 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: like the upside down face shields where like you just 530 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: dump popcorn and drinks down there. So you have to 531 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: take it like this to keep that well, keep that 532 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: idea close to the chest. Do you have, oh my god, 533 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: prototype I will. I mean, like listen, we in New York. 534 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: I'll fight any herb who has that all there. But 535 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: I had to go see Tennant this weekend, so I 536 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: have this upside down face ship. I mean it's almost 537 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: like some wally ship where we would create ways to 538 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: just traw product into our down our gullets during some 539 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: unke some fucking media spectacle, like it the levels of 540 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: dystopian like we're approaching with this pandemic because it's really revealing, 541 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: how like the pathology of capitalism too, Like this whole 542 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: idea of like, look, we gotta get this fucking money. 543 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk if people die like we're going, 544 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: we don't get And the other thing people need to 545 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: realize is like if you are if you're trusting a 546 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: corporation to look out for you, you are out of 547 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: your goddamn mind. There. I haven't seen one example where 548 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what that corporation they came through 549 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: on protecting people, even though it's detrimental to their bottom 550 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: line and affected shareholder value. They did the right thing. 551 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: That's just not gonna happen. Not once I can, I 552 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: can I open you got you guys a third eye 553 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, I think AMC is really opening 554 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: not just to open their theaters and get money and 555 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: to stimulate whatever arm of Hollywood they're doing well. Also, 556 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: remember the wild cornball Jeff Bezos is trying to buy 557 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: AMC theaters, So I think that this is the only 558 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: thing that they can do to even have any revenues 559 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: to prevent this sort of buyout exactly. So I think 560 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: that's like, I think that's something that's like being a 561 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: race from all of this. But I think it's also 562 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: like I don't care about giant corporate mergers. I really 563 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: care about people. And also, I mean I've been in 564 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: mad amc theaters in the city and I'm just like 565 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: there's always like we don't know how coronavirus completely affects 566 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: the body entirely yet, but like every movie theater I've been, 567 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: and I'm guarantee some du this in their masturbating and 568 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: doing some ship and it's like it's already weird ship 569 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: that's happening, and it's like, bro, like for three months, 570 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: everybody's been home, and now niggas is gonna beating off 571 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: movie theaters with masks on. Like that's it. Like we 572 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: have other systemic theater problems that we also gotta feel 573 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: now there's coronavirus on top of that. Yeah, and what 574 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: movies are even out that it's like, oh, let me 575 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: go risk my life for this tenant John David Washington. Yeah, 576 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a Christopher Nolan. It's a Christopher Nolan like 577 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: super mine, fuck trippy for Chopher No, and no one is. 578 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are. And I think 579 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: he's playing himself if he thinks like it's people are 580 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: gonna fucking risk their lives to see that ship. Like 581 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I may see a Christopher Nolan movie 582 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: or I may end up. I would love to see 583 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: that movie, but the cost benefit analysis there, I'm like, oh, fuck, 584 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: no getting in a people who are also dumb as 585 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: fun to be like, I'm going to the movies. Oh 586 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: my god, don't where the I don't know what you've 587 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: been up to. But that brings us to this. So 588 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: this outrage that we are experiencing right now, that got 589 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: loud enough for a m C to be like, Okay, 590 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: you're right, we won't call it politics, even though this 591 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: is not a political issue. That's a whole other conversation 592 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: how people like politicizing mask wearing. But they're saying like, okay, 593 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: you know what masks on now? And this is what 594 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: the CEO had to say at AMC theaters. We think 595 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: it is absolutely crucial that we listened to our guests 596 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: accordingly and with the full support of our scientific advisors. 597 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: We are reversing course and are changing our guest mask 598 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: policy as we Let me just stop right there. The 599 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: whole thing where they're saying, with the full support of 600 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: our scientific advisors, were they told you to have an 601 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: optional mask policy to begin with? Like, what what is 602 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: the like the language already, I feel like betrays what 603 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: was really going on, essentially, like trying to be like yeah, 604 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: because you know, we're always we're always having our scientific 605 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: advisors wig in on everything. I was going to say, 606 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: who the fund is the fucking AMC scientific advisor who 607 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: goes to college people. I can't wait to work for 608 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: a mega movie corporate scientific advisor. They gotta know how 609 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: much chemical they can put in that fact butter before 610 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: legally will kill you. I think it's just coconut oil really, 611 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: but their scientific advisors probably someone who like memorize all 612 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: the lines from Flubber or some ship saying it's just 613 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: like wild hair, the glasses lapt They're like, they're like 614 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: just telling to where masks, They're gonna be fine to 615 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: worry about it, Uh, this other thing here. So then 616 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: they go on, as we reopened the theaters, all guests 617 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: will be required to wear masks. This is the next part. 618 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: The speed with which AMC moved to revise our mask 619 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: policies is a reflection of our commitment to the safety 620 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: and health of our guests. It would have been more 621 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: of a commitment if y'all had just started with the 622 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: masks in the first place, or maybe never opened. Like, 623 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: how y'all go. That's like, that's like if you have cars, 624 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: you got you make cars and you sell them and 625 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: you know they're exploding, and you know they're exploding before 626 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: you sell them, and then people start exploding them, and 627 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: then you're like, hey, guys, we're taking those exploding cars 628 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: off the market because we see that you're exploding and 629 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: we care about you. And that's always at the forefront 630 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: of our ethos as a company exactly. You know, when 631 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: my grand dad got into the exploding car business, I 632 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I gotta keep this 633 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: family christing going, but I will stop it because of 634 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: the welfare of our customers. Right when y'all said we 635 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: don't want to explode no more, we heard you. We 636 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: heard that. That really is some like shitty boyfriend logic 637 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: where you get caught cheating and you're like, well, I'm 638 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: not cheating anymore. And she's like, well, that's true exactly, babe, 639 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: because that's a testament to how committed I am to 640 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: you in this relationship. It's like, know, you caught me 641 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: five minutes ago. I know you caught me. However that 642 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: was five minutes ago, and I wouldn't not I wouldn't 643 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: stop cheating for nobody, you know, But I'm committed to this, 644 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: this relationship. The sanctity of the whole thing just reeks 645 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: of total bullshit. And it's just really weird, man, because 646 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: these like it's there's like another level of gas lighting 647 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: that's happening from capitalists, like the capitalist you know, business 648 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: owning class, which is forcing people to work and consume again, 649 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: as if there isn't a pandemic, like all these forced openings, 650 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Like I think bars were opening over the weekend in 651 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: l A. I wouldn't know because I'm still looking at like, 652 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: is there are the numbers going down? Yeah? It's like 653 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: what are what the funk are people doing? But they're 654 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: not realizing that even though a mayor might say, hey, 655 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: we're reopening the town, it's not because you are safe. 656 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: It's because like the Chamber of Commerce and other donors 657 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: and people who are owned business and stuff are in 658 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: their ears lobbying them to get them to reopen. Like 659 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: this is a lobbying effort. This isn't just some This 660 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: isn't your local leaders saying like all right, guys, I 661 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: think you've been safe and I think we're ready. No, 662 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: they're under pressure from these people who are like, I 663 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: need my fucking money, bro, And if you think I'm 664 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna give to your campaign, you're out your fucking head. 665 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Start opening these restaurants and ship It's really really dark 666 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: and cynical. Also, people have to remember, like if you're 667 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: going out to these restaurants, are you're risking because you're like, oh, 668 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: it'll probably be okay. Just know you're out there with 669 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: the most reckless people you've ever met in your life. 670 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: Because anybody who's out early, disregarding everything that's happening in 671 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: the news, I bet you those people have been out 672 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: the entire time. There's a good chance that they have 673 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: like met up with so many different people, like you 674 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: are out with the most reckless people you've ever met, 675 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: and also like and guess what you wanted? The motherfucker's 676 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: sue you. They're like, come on, bro, if we all realize, oh, 677 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: maybe i'm wildent and just sat down, you'll be fine. Yeah, 678 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: I mean, like if if you could be outdoors, that's 679 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: one thing, because it seems like mask wearing did help 680 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: a lot during a lot of these protests, which is beneficial, 681 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: but that's in the context of outside And I know 682 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: there are I've read plenty of takes on the right 683 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, really, people are upset about bars, but 684 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: look at this, Look at all these people. I don't 685 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: see social distancing there without completely like actually genuinely, you know, 686 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: pointing to the fact that this isn't about going to 687 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: see a fucking movie. Okay, this is exactly complete. The 688 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: stakes are fucking not even close to being the same. 689 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: But because like the sooner that you realize that everything 690 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: is connected to like whiteness, money and optics, everything starts 691 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: becoming so much more clear because like, honestly, like you know, 692 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: but look at these people doing brunch. Things are good, 693 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna follow up with them in two 694 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: weeks when they're all ventilators Mark thirteen air ventilators. Like, yeah, 695 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: so it's wold, so we'll see, uh you know how 696 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: that goes. I just you know, please everybody listening, just 697 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: because look at just the numbers. Man, If the numbers 698 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: aren't going down, we're not doing it. We're not doing 699 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: what we had to do. Then you know how to 700 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: in the streets. Yeah, speaking of whiteness and optics and 701 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: media narratives in Hollywood. Um, mama, do you wrote a 702 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: piece and Vulture that is really really fantastic sort of 703 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: talking about a film that you were trying to get 704 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: out and it's evolution and how you were trying to 705 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: tell a story, um, and how you came to realize 706 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: whether or not an audience would accept it, whether or 707 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: not the gatekeepers that allowed stories like this to be 708 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: platformed would accept it. Um. And I don't know, I 709 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: just want to, you know, let you. I feel like 710 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: this is a great time to talk about Hollywood ing 711 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: while black. Um. And I think in your instance, like 712 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: for you as a creator trying to get a message 713 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: out and then watching how that gets distorted along the way. Um. 714 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: So do you do you kind of want to just 715 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: sort of break down what happened? Yeah? So, and uh 716 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: so I've been doing like you know, protests and stuff 717 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: for a lot a long time. I think that you know, 718 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: every black person that we know, their entire life has 719 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: been mined with this sort of like smag of police 720 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: isles and racism from that. So in two thousands sixteen, 721 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: after the deaths of Philanderer Steel and out In Sterling, 722 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: I started working on a short film and I started 723 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: crowdfunding for it called Hashtag, and it was supposed to 724 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: be sort of a meta narrative on the cyclical nature 725 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: of things, because especially on social media, you really noticed 726 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: that we turn our eyes to it, then we turn away, 727 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: and it keeps happening almost exactly the same way. And 728 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, we all had our grant. 729 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: I think not we all, But I feel like a 730 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of the Internet that doesn't have access to this 731 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: sort of narrative because they're not tied to it, was 732 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: forced to look at like the trape On Martin story. 733 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,479 Speaker 1: So things have slowly gotten Wokern worker, Walker and Walker 734 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: and worker on Twitter. But I made the short film 735 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: and it took a lot out of me, mostly because 736 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: I was getting advice from a lot of different people. 737 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: I was taking in different directions and I went to 738 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: different execs, I went to different production companies that I 739 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: wanted to help from it, and it felt very much 740 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: like this like grand gas lighting of like, yo, this 741 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: idea is and it felt like you could feel the 742 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: money behind it. It's not in right now, it's not 743 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna pop. You could hear the gas from the ideas like, 744 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what you're talking about is like definitely an 745 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: important topic, but like we don't do that here. And 746 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: I could tell from the people that I was talking 747 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: to that it like it made them uncomfortable, but not 748 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: uncomfortable enough to change anything about themselves and stuff. And 749 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: I finally did make the short film in two I 750 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: was in eighteen with Quincy lad Better and Michelle Francesco Thomas. 751 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: And when I made the short film, I realized that 752 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: throughout the entire time I was making it, more people 753 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: were dying and more people were doing the same thing 754 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: that I was like trying to put in this movie. 755 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, it really broke me. It really made 756 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: me feel insane because I was like, I feel crazy, 757 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of black people do because 758 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: we just spend so much more time being gaslets our 759 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: own experiences by people at all levels of what we're doing, 760 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: especially in Hollywood and in comedy and stuff. So I 761 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: well during all of this, you know, you said that 762 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about Twitter, about Twitter, Like I just 763 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: got mad this time. I was just like, yo, stop 764 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: pretending that you don't see this, and like the fatigue 765 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: and like the oh well, we're gonna be performatively woke 766 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go away from it, whereas like 767 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: black people can't turn their heads away, like we only 768 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: turn our heads into more trauma. And the last three 769 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: weeks have been that. So I yeah, I made the 770 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: short film and then I was like, I'm not going 771 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: to release this, mostly because I think that like with 772 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: black people who die from police violence, they are survived 773 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: by us and we fight for them. But that was 774 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: a movie where it's literally called hashtag. It was gonna 775 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: trend and my body was on the top people trying 776 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: to make a point, and I was going to be 777 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: alive to see the ain't ship motherfucker's that I have 778 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: to navigate every single day. So rather than do that 779 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: and then ruined my own mental health with that, I 780 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to release this. That being said, 781 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: a lot of people have seen it and a lot 782 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: of people have shared it. It's something that, um, you know, 783 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: when I wrote the article. She's like, I want to 784 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: see it, and I was like, yeah, because I can't 785 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: be out here like I'm writing something about something that's 786 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: never happened, that doesn't exist. You can't do that. So 787 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: I was like, you can see it, and they thank 788 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: you Meg right for giving the platform for that. But 789 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: she also just like she said it moved her and 790 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: know she understood the point that I was trying to make. 791 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: And it ties into so much of like the sort 792 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: of emotional policing that black people got to go through 793 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, whether it be telling policing, emotional policing, body policing, 794 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: and it it doesn't And with the moment talking about 795 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: cops again, I was like, we have to include all 796 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: of it, right, we have to include all the conversations. 797 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: And I'm not the most radical person. I know many 798 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: more women of color who are much more specifically black 799 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: women who are much more radical than I was that 800 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: I am, but just the police in prison abolition movement 801 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: is moving past the sort of like cyclical nature, like 802 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: we need to completely fund this ship up and I 803 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: want that sort of energy to come towards policing of 804 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: black expression in Hollywood. It's good it's a very different 805 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: beast because no, no white person thinks that they're bad. 806 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: And also like they think that they're giving us opportunities, 807 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: but they don't understand that that real opportunity lies within 808 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: the power construct in Hollywood. So I shouldn't have to 809 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be allowed to make something that specifically black 810 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: and then have white people gaze upon it and tell 811 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: me why it doesn't work. It's like, sometimes you just 812 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: have to trust that you don't know what you're talking about. 813 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing that we have 814 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: to work with with Hollywood exacts, is like there has 815 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: to come a moment where you're like, I don't know 816 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: every experience, Like you're not gonna see me read you know, 817 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: a Native Persons script or read a script from someone 818 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: who's from Soul or from you know, Amsterdam, and be like, 819 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really understanding this food stuff y'all 820 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: talking about, Like you need to take that out. Maybe 821 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: we could put in I don't know black people food. 822 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, like this love interest, could 823 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: they be white? I mean, it's soul Korea, so what 824 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: about some soul food food? Yeah? I know, I know 825 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: it'sn't so Korea, but yes, soul food and also soul 826 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: for people. Could these Koreans be the black ones? But 827 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: that is that, But that's what happens. Like just what 828 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: you're saying, mom, you're like your piece, right, I haven't 829 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: seen it yet, but the way you're describing sort of 830 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: this groundhogs day effect of this man getting killed by 831 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: the police and having to relive it and try and 832 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: figure out how they're going to actually survive this interaction. Yeah, 833 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: I think that puts so literally what the black experiences 834 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: that essentially it's like what was happening pre George Floyd, 835 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: where it was something so real and shocking to someone's 836 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: senses that they're like, oh, that's like kind of hot, 837 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, like that, but rather than acknowledging, like will 838 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: you allow us to actually explain to you what this is? 839 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: This isn't this isn't something meant to be incendiary or 840 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: antagonistic because our existences are are just tainted with these 841 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: kinds of things. So what what the funk is this? 842 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: And to hear that someone was like even trying to 843 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: an executive, trying to give you to both sides this narrative. Yeah, 844 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: it was very annoying. I was just like, bro, like, 845 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about the cop narrative. Guess what, 846 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: they have a full have a strangle hold on their 847 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: own fucking narrative, and right whenever anything comes out about them, 848 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: they're like, can you take out the part about the brutality? 849 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's like it's like or that I mean, 850 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: and that's that's the thing, Like black people do not 851 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: have control of their own narrative and the same way 852 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: that white people and cops have. And I'm not saying 853 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: that every white person is a cop or am I, 854 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that there is a power structure 855 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, as Lacy was saying, that doesn't allow for 856 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: black people to express themselves the way they want to. 857 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: It has to be put through a white filter of palatability. 858 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: And that extends to all people of color, queer people 859 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: like and and it's difficult and it's dangerous to do 860 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: that because if we don't have control of our own narrative, 861 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: then things that are essential need to get cut out. 862 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: And even in this article like shout out Meg, I 863 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: was just like fighting was like, no, these lines need 864 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: to come in because someone needs to say this, like, 865 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: I think that people in the last forty years sort 866 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: of this turn towards blackness being the cool thing that 867 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: we can like all engage in that has become so 868 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: mainstream that black people are now being plucked away from 869 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: their own narratives and replaced with white people who are 870 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: doing black sense and you know, you know, nig efficient 871 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: on on Instagram and stuff like that, like that sort 872 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: of stuff. So it's so expansive, and it's so connected 873 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: to so many different other systems in Hollywood, and it 874 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: all comes down to like this sort of like suffocating 875 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: cloud of whiteness that is around everything. I think what 876 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: really made me break was one girl asking me where's hashtag? 877 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: Like in a very like I need it now sort 878 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: of because you did a go fund met exactly. And 879 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: I totally got it. I understood where she was coming from, 880 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, that's how I am. I try to 881 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: see both sides of that sort of situation, often too much, 882 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: but I try to see both sides of that. But 883 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: what it really felt like, and I had to be 884 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: honest about how I felt, was like, it feels like 885 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: you're just like, yo, where's this movie about police trauma 886 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: that I put some money into and she's right, like, 887 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: you put some money into it, but like, this is 888 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: really fucking me up. And also every three months, someone 889 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: else is dying. And I watched my movie happen in 890 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: real life, and you watch my movie happen in real 891 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: life and you do nothing to change. So why would 892 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: I put something out with me in it and hurt 893 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: my my own mental health and see you do the 894 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: same thing you do with real dead people and keep 895 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: it going and it and it just it really did 896 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: break me. So I just immediately I was like, we 897 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: gotta start looking at Hollywood holistically, everything from exects down 898 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: the crafty. How are we putting black people into this? 899 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 1: And also the idea of like re traumatizing black people 900 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: because we understand what the reality is, so when we 901 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: see these films, it's like yep. But then at a 902 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: certain point it where's it starts to really weigh down 903 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: on people, because how many times you have to see 904 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: these really fucked up versions of life until you know, 905 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: ship starts clicking And I guess we're beginning there. But 906 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: that's why I think we have to really see this moment. 907 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are um and to 908 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: your point is like it can't just be offerings to 909 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: black creators, writers or whatever to have like table scraps 910 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: or that'd be like invited to the table. Motherfucker's need 911 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: to give up their seats at the table. Exactly know 912 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, Because that's the issue. And I think 913 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: that's really I think another issue of like how are 914 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: we how can we really guarantee that there is going 915 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: to be proper representation in these kinds of things when 916 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: already we're seeing corporations be like, hey, we'll be back 917 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: with more on what we will do on black Lives Ladder, 918 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: more to come, more to come, But like we gotta 919 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: be real, what this is just another form of gas 920 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: lighting until we actually see what is going to happen. 921 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't need more to come. I need you to say, 922 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: you know what, like we've changed our head of development. 923 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: Uh is now like a clear queer black person whatever 924 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: anything and just be like this person is now doing this, 925 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: someone who is gate keeping is now we're actually expanding 926 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: the perspective of people who are going to actually be 927 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: like this could be something good rather than a very 928 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: homogeneous lens or filter that everything is put through in 929 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: this decision making process, and that's why you're seeing gate keepers. 930 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: For a long time, what they did, you know, and 931 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: called diversity and expansion was tokenism where they would take 932 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: on black creatives and then they take their art and 933 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: they remove all of the passion and the and the 934 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: truth from it so that they can make it palatable 935 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: to white audiences. And you don't see that in anybody 936 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: else's art, like any other like white folks art, Like 937 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: when you're watching white people's piece, if you're watching Wes Anderson, 938 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: you're getting the you know, the alabaster of the alabaster, 939 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: the creme de la creme, you know what I mean. 940 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: No one's saying, like West, too many colors, Wes uh, 941 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: too many tiny chess, you know, like symmetrical right, whatever 942 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: we was feels his whiteness needs to express. He's allowed 943 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: to do that. However, if it's brown and black folks, 944 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: then it's like, well, we don't get this reference or 945 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Gerard Klimachel left the Car Michael Show because 946 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't let him release episodes about police brutality and 947 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: about stuff that he really wanted to talk about. Then 948 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: they just kept censoring him. And I've experienced that on 949 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: shows that I was on where we were talking about 950 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: I was the one black girl in a friend group 951 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: and we were talking about the police and they immediately 952 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: are way more aggressive to me in the scene and 953 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 1: the white exacts red and we're like, we don't understand 954 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: why this black girl's character. Why would the cops be 955 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: so aggressive towards her? And we were like, cause because 956 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: she's she's black. Like they're like no, but the cop 957 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: has no reason to do that. It's like they still 958 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: think that way, and they put it on us, and 959 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: it's like, come on, now, you've seen all these videos 960 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: of us dying, and white people love a slave movie. 961 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: They love a good old black trauma porn that they 962 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: can just like skirt up and down the oscars some 963 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: with some good old savior behavior. Yeah, savior behavior like 964 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: you said. And I don't even watch those things anymore. 965 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: And it's kind of like that get that meme of 966 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: the girl who's drinking the soda and she's like hey, 967 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: Like so it's like when I when I see an 968 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: ad for a black trauma porn movie, I'm not I'm 969 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,959 Speaker 1: not interested. When I see an audition, I'm like, maybe 970 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: I gotta go get my lupeto on. I don't want to, 971 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: but that's the industry that I live in. Those are 972 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: the choices that I have. I gotta go get beat 973 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: on and like a slave so I can so I 974 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: can give me some some cloud. It is so sad 975 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: because like I think that, like you know, we all 976 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: make the jokes about like white people was asking us 977 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: did you see it? Get out and we got to 978 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: ask them, did you see it? Because it feels like 979 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: you're not changing anything about your behavior to us based 980 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: on that, and it is that And I think it's like, 981 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: what's even more insidious. I think that, like what people 982 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: don't really fully realize about what needs to change in 983 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood is the thing that we're learning. We we know 984 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: about world history. Everything in world history is people refusing 985 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: to give up power and people like, oh that no power, cool, 986 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: we take it everything your heads mom g Like that's 987 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: what it is. And I think in Hollywood, like we 988 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 1: don't it doesn't need to be a violent transfer of power. 989 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: It literally is like we're giving you this power. And 990 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: I think that it can't just be the one black 991 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: person in the room. It can't be just two, because 992 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: you need to and as a former teacher, you need 993 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: to build scaffolding, something to like hold onto so that 994 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: like they can unders like we can feel like we 995 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: can communicate with each other and have some sort of power. 996 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: And I think that is a fear that a lot 997 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: of white Republicans have in this world, and a lot 998 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 1: of white people on the right, but also on the left. 999 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot of people who ang themselves 1000 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: to be at the front of black movements, who are 1001 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: white allies, And I'm like, why are you at the 1002 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: front unless you're depending me from a cop out of protest. 1003 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: It's it's okay to not be the forefront. And I 1004 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: know plenty of people who may not think of it 1005 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: that way, but that's how we perceive it. But then 1006 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: on top of that, there's a culture of silence where 1007 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: we're not allowed to talk about this stuff because we 1008 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: know it could be our career. And I think that 1009 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: in this moment, so many people are talking about it 1010 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: because we have so much frustration that is from everything. 1011 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 1: Also we've all been cooped up for like three months, 1012 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: but like there's so much frustration from everything, and you know, 1013 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: media pieces like thirteen and when they see a shout 1014 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: out ava and Watchman, Like, these are all stories that 1015 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 1: black people really know and white people don't. I think 1016 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: that's put in improv terms shout out UCB, but not really. Um, 1017 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: it's we don't have the same based reality, and we're 1018 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: coming into a scene where we the white based reality 1019 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: is supposed to be the subjective truth, but we know 1020 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: it's been whitewash and spun to be something else. And 1021 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: even in the movies that you say, oh, this is 1022 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,760 Speaker 1: about black people, like, go, what's the movie Hidden Figures? 1023 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: Then my man was breaking down that bathroom side and 1024 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, the funk added here that they did 1025 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: not knock down no goddamn, but hey, they're gonna go 1026 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: to the go to the bathroom over there. That's that's 1027 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 1: how it went down. It's like, it's not and that's 1028 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: the stuff. It's like there's still this positioning of like 1029 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: the framing of white goodness and redemption and innocence, where 1030 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: in reality we know that's not how it is historically. 1031 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: And the fact that like people can just post a 1032 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,280 Speaker 1: black square and be quiet that brought out everyone's frustration 1033 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: and anger because we on the inside know that this 1034 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: is not how it is, and we felt we've had 1035 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: to hold it in because if we want that ship out, 1036 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: it's a pack up for our life, our career. And 1037 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: there's an insidiousness to like the way that you know, 1038 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: whiteness makes blackness threatening at the drop of a hat 1039 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: and the smallest instance and and that is policing. That's 1040 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: the tone police block that I was talking about. That 1041 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: is all that stuff. And like even with j Cole 1042 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: no name, like it's coming from inside the house too, 1043 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: like that that sort of white supremacist thought is still 1044 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: like oh yeah, black woman, quite your ship down, Like 1045 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: what we There's so much that needs to be unpacked 1046 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: and undone. I think that's the beauty of like what's 1047 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: coming out of this movement, not just for Hollywood but 1048 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: for the world about you know, police abolishment and prison abolishment, 1049 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: because it's like we need to like strip this ship 1050 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: and we need to like fix things. But it requires 1051 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: us all to like de center ourselves and center equity 1052 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: in a certain way. White people are not good at that. 1053 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: There's like, what do you need me to do? Money? Cool? 1054 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: And that we need infrastructure, we need power, and that 1055 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: requires people who get into these positions the you know, 1056 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: people are doing about the East rays, the Donald lovers, 1057 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: the avas who are doing these things to like pay 1058 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: it forward and recenter the people who are at the 1059 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: most vulnerable within our own black community as well, And 1060 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: that is something that has to start up at AD 1061 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: execs and development execs go to showrunners, to writers to writers, 1062 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: assistance to assistance to craft down to a crafty here 1063 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: in Hollywood Reporter before COVID Hit and the Oscars edition, 1064 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: talking about the disparities when it comes to people who 1065 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: even know how to do black makeup and hair, Like, 1066 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't think white people realize that we get up 1067 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: every single day and we just face abuse every day 1068 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: and when you're quiet, because we're like, well, these con 1069 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: edison don't care that this white later was mean to me. 1070 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna have to take it on the 1071 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 1: chain because I gotta pay my fucking bills and they 1072 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: don't get that. And you know, it was super disappointing 1073 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: to me to in l A seven h six. I'm 1074 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: gonna put you all on blast again to hear from 1075 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: the seven or six and this is not the people 1076 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: of color who work within seven or six. Shout out 1077 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: to y'all because y'all are fighting so hard to get jobs, 1078 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,280 Speaker 1: and it's such a I know it's a hard space, 1079 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: but um, I heard that people in the meetings read 1080 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter and wanted to boycott the Hollywod Reporter. 1081 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: And we're talking about all the great things that they 1082 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: were doing for black women in hair and makeup and 1083 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: the programs that they had. And I said, so, if 1084 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: this is what you're the problem you have, right, I'm 1085 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 1: an actress, I work. I'm not famous at this moment, 1086 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 1: but I'm employed. And but you have Taggi p Henson, 1087 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: you have got real union, you have Natasha wroth Wall, 1088 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: you have actions who have been in the game for 1089 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,839 Speaker 1: decades telling you the same thing. And instead of being 1090 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: like wow, if they're still saying it's a problem, maybe 1091 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: we aren't doing enough, or maybe what we're doing isn't working. 1092 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: But instead there's that white fragility that hops in that 1093 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: centers yourself and make sure makes it all about you 1094 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: and how you feel when people are hurting. And that's 1095 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 1: like if you went to the doctor and you're like doctor, 1096 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,280 Speaker 1: like I'm bleeding. The doctors like, okay, that's not my fault, 1097 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: So so what who's faults? So who falts why I 1098 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't run the knife into you. It's like help me. 1099 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm asking you to help me about you. Yeah, that's 1100 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: the ugly part where it's just like you pull up 1101 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: somewhere and it's it's the meme again. I keep talking 1102 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: to memes. I'm sorry, my brain is fundamentally broke by 1103 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,439 Speaker 1: the enemy. But if it's that ship where Eric Andre 1104 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: stutting Hannibal and be like, why would you make me 1105 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 1: do that? And I'm like, no, it don't. It don't 1106 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: gotta be this way. I literally just need you to 1107 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: like change these things. And one thing that got taken 1108 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: out of the article goal for world count because it 1109 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 1: was near three thousands, but because I had so much 1110 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: to say. There's just so much to unpack, but like 1111 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: I need to make it a cohesive story. Shadow editors, 1112 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 1: is that like you can't arrive like five years late 1113 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: to class and then be like alright, page one, Black 1114 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: lives Matter, Like you you gotta you've gotta come in 1115 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: and realize that you are not leading the movements, you 1116 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: are contributing to it. And I think that there's a 1117 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: skewing in our media the way that the world looks 1118 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: at like the different oppressions that it seems like things 1119 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: are one to one, whereas everything is so complicated. It's 1120 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: not just men versus women. It's not just black men 1121 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: white woman, it's not white women black, it's all of 1122 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: the things connected. And if you start intersecting it all 1123 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: the day down the bottom, when you start realizing who 1124 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: is the least protected. And we're talking about this the 1125 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: other day, Lacey and I just like specifically, it's trickled 1126 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: down justice. It's just trickle down justice. And it's like, 1127 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna break the glass ceiling. We're gonna come back 1128 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: and get you. Has that happened, like at the moment 1129 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: that black white people are like, well, I'm tapped out. 1130 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: I donated to fifteen and fucking organizations. I'm exhausted. Yeah, exactly. 1131 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: That ship and I talked about it all time, Race 1132 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: Time continuum. You see it like, oh my god, I'm 1133 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: so upset. What we're gonna do? All right, we fixed it, 1134 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: and then you go right back down that little curb 1135 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: and race time listen. I think, and that's the thing. 1136 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: The only reason that I have any sort of like 1137 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: quotable means and stuff like that that I'm good at 1138 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: talking about this is that I've done this my entire life, 1139 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: and I've tried to explain it in every way to 1140 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: people who are not trying to change, and now we're 1141 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: not going to let you. And I think that it's 1142 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 1: it starts with, you know, the safety of black people 1143 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, and that requires the scaffolding at all different levels. 1144 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: But then it also comes with like the rejection of 1145 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: white mediocrity in the face of black people who work 1146 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: their entire goddamn lives to have the most stacked IMDb, 1147 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: the most stacked credits, the most stacked like writing samples, 1148 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: and they pull up and they're like, oh, yeah, this 1149 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: is Keith from Costco. You might have written on fifteen 1150 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: different oscar A or uh nominated movies, but we just 1151 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: found him and he was, you know, you know, buying exactly, 1152 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: and he was in Costco at the time. Showrunner like 1153 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: load a bunch of dog food into his car exactly, 1154 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: and he made a funny dog food joke and the 1155 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: guy was like, Hey, you want to be in a 1156 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: writer's room. And that's not to say that there aren't 1157 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: many talented white writers, but what you guys have to 1158 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: understand is and and this is where like, I find 1159 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: myself trying to incentivize white folks because I just know 1160 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: that they wish they had more empathy in their hearts. 1161 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: But many it's just about them. So I'm like, look, 1162 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: you can sleep better if you do these things for 1163 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: black people and then you know you're not the bad guy. 1164 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: You just keep doing those things and thank you so much. 1165 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: Or like white folks who have worked really hard for 1166 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: the things that they have, it's not that we don't 1167 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: know you exist. The issues is that you don't realize like, 1168 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: for as much as you've ever had to work, we've 1169 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: had to work harder. And it's not But we're not 1170 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: saying that to say that we're better than you were 1171 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: saying that, to say that you got to work and 1172 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: you didn't have to get followed home by the police. 1173 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 1: You got to work, and you didn't have to quietly 1174 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: deal with your first a d putting his hands on 1175 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: you on set. You got to work, and when you 1176 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: spoke up and said that, hey, I'm getting sick, they 1177 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't make you work in the freaking woods until you 1178 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: had to go to the hospital. You got to work 1179 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 1: and you didn't have to you know what I mean. 1180 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: And these are my personal experiences that I just listened 1181 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: off in Hollywood where like people I've had been putting 1182 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: their hands on me to the point where I had 1183 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: to be like, please stop. And I was supposedly the 1184 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: most important actress, their number one on the culture, and 1185 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: I had a d break his fall on me on 1186 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: set tripped and grabbed me to break his fall. Could 1187 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: you imagine being on a set where anybody worked on 1188 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: that set and and Nicole came in or any other 1189 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 1: the delicate white woman and then you saw like a 1190 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: gaff or like, whoo, if I'm tripping, let me grab 1191 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: on a Nicole so I could so I don't fall 1192 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: to the ground. What what I just know? Like this 1193 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. We're not trying to take 1194 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: away from the fact that you've worked hard for your 1195 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: the things that you own, but do know that we 1196 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: are surviving one every day that we get up and 1197 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: then we're doing twice three times as much work just 1198 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: to be considered for a tokenized position. Yeah, and on 1199 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: top of that, just as people the most vulnerable in 1200 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: the world that feel like we aren't, we don't have 1201 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: even access to these stories because when they're like all right, 1202 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: we want to make this movie about how you know 1203 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna have it's gonna be a parallel universe. It's 1204 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna be you, Nicole Kidman, and it's a d is 1205 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna fall on you. And then they'll somehow like erase 1206 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: you from the story. They'll somehow like, you know, somehow 1207 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: it was lazy. But now they've made that person shades 1208 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: four teen shades lighter and they're actually being played by 1209 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Lena Dunham, and you're exactly, you know, we we we 1210 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: know our roster, you know what I'm saying. So it's 1211 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: like there's this sort of like keep calm and carry 1212 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: on mentality, not to get the UK, but like it 1213 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: is this racism where it's like white people are like, 1214 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: all right, it's all good, and like what we're gonna 1215 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: fight racism until you gotta like look within. And I 1216 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: think that we're we all need to look within two 1217 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: if we want to control make any sort of transformative 1218 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: change in hospital in Hollywood, it requires an internal look, 1219 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: something that like black people have had to do to survive. 1220 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Because we need to talk. I need to talk to 1221 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Lazy to tell her, like this is what happened. So 1222 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: I feel crazy. It is and I think that, you know, 1223 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: I never want to like, you know, co opt abuse language, 1224 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: but these are power dynamics and they intersect. Once you 1225 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about race and gender and you know, sexual orientation, 1226 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: gender expression, it's like it's so very layered and complicated 1227 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and it can't just be a post on Twitter. It 1228 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: can't be a post on because like people been out 1229 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: here posting on Twitter, posting on Instagram, getting dragged, whole 1230 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: whole organizations being like we stand for Black Lives Matter, 1231 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: and all the black people be like this you and 1232 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: it's like every single time that happens, I'm like, we yeah, 1233 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: we know, this is exactly what it is. Every single 1234 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: fucking time. It's like we people want to look good 1235 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: rather than do good. And I think that when it 1236 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: comes to ally Ship, we need to do the good 1237 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and we need the receipts because you know that black 1238 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: people got there's against you, and I think that, like 1239 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 1: we also need to allow people to grow and change. 1240 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a teacher, so like you know, I thought, 1241 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: like I said in the article, if I'm getting sick 1242 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: of people, you know, my patience is to run dry. 1243 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: I taught twelve year olds man then niggas was roasting 1244 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: my shout out, uh roasting me. So it's like, um, 1245 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm exhausted. And if I'm tired, then I 1246 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: know that somebody has to deal with the intersection of 1247 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: being a woman like lazy also is exhausted, and somebody 1248 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: who's queer is definitely exhausted. Somebody who's fat in this 1249 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: industry to fucking exhausted, somebody who's not siss like. It's 1250 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: it's like there's so many layers and it requires not 1251 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: centering of just a group, of centering of just like 1252 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: an equity mind. And I think that there's a lot 1253 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: of white people who walk into a room and they 1254 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: see a bunch of white people and they say, don't 1255 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: they don't see anything wrong, and that is a problem. 1256 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: True words. All right, let's take a quick break and 1257 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back. Uh, let's just 1258 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: really quick. I just want to point out to this 1259 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: piece in the New York Times, and like last week 1260 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: it was talking the author of Salt Sugar, Fat Um, 1261 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: like the book was like fantastics, basically talking about like 1262 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: this systematic poisoning of us through all these processed foods 1263 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: we eat in these combinations that are having just the 1264 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: worst effects on our health, but are being like, yo, 1265 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: but this is how we get people to buy it 1266 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: because it tastes good and yeah, fun funk the health effects. 1267 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Um so I'm not gonna fault his tone as he 1268 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: like talks about how like excited food makers are, but 1269 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: it is kind of funny. So it seems like right 1270 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: now a lot of the processed food industry is basically like, 1271 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: oh shit, like we're back, Like the pandemic has brought 1272 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: the like the just comfort food, junk food eating, uh 1273 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, wave right back. And a lot of people, 1274 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 1: I think myself included, I was being very like, no, 1275 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't need to eat this ship. I don't need 1276 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: to eat just like straight up sugar stuff, Like I 1277 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: can be a little more mindful to keep my internal 1278 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: processes running optimally. But now a lot of people, you know, 1279 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: in the pandemic, we're in our homes, we are basically 1280 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: finding out that like we like to snack more like 1281 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: it's just what it is we're grazing now. And basically 1282 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: now there's a lot of these food makers saying like, 1283 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 1: holy sh it, like snacking has come back, Like snacking 1284 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: is like the is the wave right now. But I 1285 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: think depending on how you are. I think I think 1286 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: I find myself in the category of like eating junk 1287 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: food just purely to be comfortable. That's it. Like right 1288 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: now I find myself being like, hey, dude, I need 1289 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: fucking ice cream. I need to eat a whole sleeve 1290 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: of oreoles like in one go, just because at times 1291 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: it helps with other things. Um. But then I think 1292 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the other thing is like a lot of people don't 1293 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: have like the knowledge, wealth, or discipline to stay on 1294 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 1: a healthy diet. So I don't know how anyone could 1295 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 1: be like expected to consider those things, especially when right 1296 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: now we're kind of like in this slow motion societal collapse. 1297 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: But apparently people are loving can't soup right now? They're 1298 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 1: not your life is over, can't right now? Slap progressive? 1299 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: I think what it is obviously because it's the easiest 1300 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: ship to make, you know what I mean, good baby. 1301 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I think it's only I think they're jumping the gun 1302 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 1: of it. I think that's like people being like mass 1303 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: up back baby. Everybody wants Ppe. Everyone's gona with Ppe 1304 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: for the next tim twenty years, baby, like you have to. 1305 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: I think they need to realize the time that we're 1306 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,920 Speaker 1: in because camp suit does slap, and people were getting 1307 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: it because it doesn't expire and they didn't know how 1308 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: long it would be until their next grocery store trips. 1309 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 1: So it's kind of wild to me that people are 1310 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,120 Speaker 1: like extracting that from the narrative and being like, we 1311 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: got them where we want them cooked. Yeah, because like 1312 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: General Mills, their cereals jump like and like waffles and 1313 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, here we go. Dam I should have 1314 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: got stuck in Ego. Damn it just coming up off 1315 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the Ego dollars. You get those Eggo checks in the 1316 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,919 Speaker 1: mail right now? No, no, he let go my motherfucking ego, 1317 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Like you'd be out here trying to pay big coronavirus 1318 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: and get your Eggo money to stay up. Like, like, 1319 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: soup is wild to me because I'm like, yo, there's 1320 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: no like, okay, I'm not gonna slander soup. I'm I'm 1321 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: a autute of the soup community. I want to be clear. 1322 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, Like, there's no way that someone 1323 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: looked at those numbers. It goes like super is in. 1324 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: We gotta get this soup ship going. There's like listen, 1325 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: it's like the scientists at the AMC, like there's nobody 1326 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: looking at those numbers and saying that, like soup is 1327 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: what is in? And I don't know. I don't also 1328 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: to say that it's in. You know what I'm saying, 1329 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: like like can's like a survival food is not in? 1330 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Who means that we're trying to survive? That is all 1331 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: that is dry spaghetti man and we're back, We're back 1332 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: on his head is like retire. But if I'm back 1333 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: in the game now, all that kitschy astronaut food, they're 1334 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: like everybody buying I camping food ice cream. Yeah. The 1335 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: other thing is but a lot of people like six 1336 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: and ten adults in this other a we're cooking a 1337 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of their meals from scratch, which is really interesting. 1338 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: So I think some people took the time to just 1339 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 1: be like I got so much time, like ship carrots 1340 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: are cheap, Okay, maybe I can do something with this. Um. 1341 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: But the other thing that's really interesting is like how 1342 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: the sort of pendulum broke down in different ways. UM. 1343 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things was for people who said, 1344 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: like one in four people said they were eating more 1345 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: salty and sugary snacks and this this like category of 1346 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,479 Speaker 1: people was dominated by the eighteen to twenty nine demographic, which, 1347 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: like back in were the same people who were like 1348 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm off this ship, Like I'm off this processed food. 1349 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: So we've had to come. It's interesting to see that 1350 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: just in these times, like yeah, there is a certain 1351 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: amount that we just it's comfortable to maybe do less work, 1352 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: to cook and just eat something that reminds us of 1353 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 1: childhood when we didn't know about, you know, how deep 1354 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: systemic racism was, or a pandemic or capital And I 1355 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 1: feel like if a Scooby Doo snacks box could talk, 1356 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,919 Speaker 1: you'd be like, ah, see a bitch come and crawling back? 1357 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: What job a caudle toast? Now? I dare you? Dare you? 1358 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 1: What's the wildest snack like journey you've gone on in 1359 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: this pandemic? Like in terms of volume, I ate one 1360 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 1: and a half points of ice cream in one city. 1361 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 1: I definitely had a Hogendas moment and then and I'm 1362 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: not a snacker like I'll eat once a day, um, 1363 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: which is very trifling. Oh you do that big, one 1364 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 1: big meal. You're one of those one big kill honey. 1365 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: It's not working for me. One big pizza, one big 1366 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 1: ice cream, one big wine. We're having one big wine. Okay, 1367 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: a big wine tonight, Roman. Who but listen, I drink 1368 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: my wine out of a flower vase. What of it? Okay? 1369 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know goop dot com had a black division, 1370 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 1: right they do? Gwyn is this now? She's like, this 1371 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 1: is what my vagina tastes like. It tastes like shard, guys, 1372 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,560 Speaker 1: which is what you would imagine it would taste like. No, 1373 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: but I think yeah. I bought the mini miniature hagging 1374 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 1: dozzes because I got to the point where I was like, okay, Lace, 1375 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 1: you can't eat a pint and a half of ice 1376 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 1: cream because I actually kind of did the same thing 1377 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: that you did. I'm trying to think if there's anything, Oh, 1378 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: you know what I did. I got peanut butter, honey, 1379 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 1: and I the chunky stop peanut butter. I microwaved it 1380 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: and then I put a little salt on top and 1381 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: I ate that with a spoon. Whoa wait, do you 1382 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: smoke weed fucking hot bowl of honey peanut butter? That's 1383 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: that fucking loud? God damn. Like when I was in college, 1384 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: my roommates in the kitchen or I'm like, hey, what's 1385 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: you're making? Man? Can with creativity? I will yield the 1386 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 1: rest of my time if it me just Lacey makes 1387 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 1: that right now and eats it and tells his dead 1388 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 1: ass with her chest that ship is delicious. It wasn't 1389 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 1: too hot. It was just like it was just nice 1390 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: and loose, so like you could take. Yeah, it was 1391 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: loose and the little salt to it and had the 1392 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: honey aspect. It was savor. It was sweet, it was 1393 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 1: and I ate it out of a coffee mug. Alright, 1394 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: what about your mama? Um? I yield my time? What 1395 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the funk? Like? What like? I mean, like you know, 1396 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: first off, I think what's wild is that like pandemic 1397 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: hit first few weeks good, still working out and got 1398 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: a good schedule going. I'm out here like cooking. Uh, 1399 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 1: I make a pasta, make rice and make westh African 1400 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: feel like yasa and stuff like that. And I was 1401 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 1: doing that and then Ramadan hit, and Ramadan was like 1402 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 1: good for your bank account because you're like, you can't 1403 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: buy a lot, you can eat one today, so like 1404 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 1: that's good. But then it just clapped me because I 1405 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 1: just now I'm back to eating like one today or 1406 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,680 Speaker 1: doing the snacking thing that you're talking about, and of 1407 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: course every everything is going on, you know, protests sort 1408 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: of this trauma. I'm having a stressful reaction and I'm 1409 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: not eating and I'm trying to remember to do that. 1410 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 1: But like but like I'm out here like eating like 1411 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,600 Speaker 1: little like things from Modego's of watermelon, I got pretzels. 1412 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I'll get like chips and salsa a lot, and I'll 1413 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 1: eat that. I did not eat one and a half 1414 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 1: pints of ice cream, but I keep buying the same 1415 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 1: strawberry cheesecake. Bed and Jerry's are woke allies in the 1416 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: dairy revolution, and like, yeah, I've been just like trying 1417 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 1: to drink a lot of water and stuff. Like most 1418 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: of my plants for eating have been budgetary as opposed 1419 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: to like, you know, I just need a snack. And 1420 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: even now I'm looking over here, I got my little 1421 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,920 Speaker 1: snack like a little like nonperishable corner, and it's like 1422 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm I could I keep forgetting to eat, so I'm 1423 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: never like making a meal or as Lacey knows, I'll 1424 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 1: be like she'd be like, hey, what's going on, And 1425 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: it's like it's like did you eat and I'm like, huh, 1426 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: that's right. I didn't eat all day. And that's why 1427 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking, because you know you'll be tired. You'd be like, 1428 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: why am I tired, and you're like, huh. I love 1429 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Syria ice cream. There's one from Cool House. There's just 1430 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: like cereal milk. I was as an ice cream and 1431 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 1: it's no, it's like just it's like as if it 1432 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: were the bottom of a bowl of frosted flakes, yo, 1433 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 1: except it's ice cream that I killed that book. I've 1434 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: faced a blunt and I ate those. That's when I 1435 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 1: have my pint and have for revolution. Okay, boy, that 1436 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: sounds busting. Yeah, if you can find anywhere that's doing that, 1437 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying try, because I've seen it a few places. 1438 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: I think that's like the honestly, the next wave of 1439 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 1: like cool flavors of like no, you know, fucking cereal 1440 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: milk though that with like a swirl of Syris. That's nostalgia. 1441 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,280 Speaker 1: I one. I'm tired of reboots. I'm tired of everyone 1442 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: using samples on music. I just want like snacks like that. 1443 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: That's like one that's like ice cream, but it's like 1444 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: it's the paper from a cupcake that you get from 1445 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 1: a kid's birthday or sugar cookies that you used to 1446 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: get holidays. You know what he wants to sit in 1447 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: on of Walmart. Yeah, it's just that it's literally just 1448 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: a box of sugar. But we need to go obscure, 1449 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Like that's why I like cereal milk, cupcake, paper pizza, 1450 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 1: greasy paper plate. Like yeah, when you're kind of like, 1451 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm gonna dip my crust in this 1452 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: pool right here, I think I think I might just 1453 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, my elbows, little ask you might like listen, 1454 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: you know what, if you can't admit your faults, then 1455 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: who the funk are you? You know what I'm saying, 1456 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Like sometimes you'll be seeing that pizza be greasy and 1457 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 1: you're like, you let me pat it down the paper talelt. 1458 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 1: People know that I'm trying to be healthier. But if 1459 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: there's a little grease on there and your elbows look 1460 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 1: like they lack and you can't cover them, get a 1461 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: little greasy. M there. There you words of wisdom with 1462 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 1: mama that survival tips for coronavirus. Yeah, Mama, dude, thank 1463 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: you so much for stopping by the dailies. Like, guys, man, 1464 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Happy junteenth man even though it's Monday, 1465 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,839 Speaker 1: but recording this on Juneteenth, but will respect the sanctity 1466 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: of the holiday that apparently Donald Trump made famous, which 1467 01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 1: he came through. What what wait? Tell me y'all saw 1468 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Milannia's Juneteenth video from waver Why she shoot that ship 1469 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 1: from She was like, all right, y'all shoot me in 1470 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: this I'm gonna be in this building. Y'all shoot me 1471 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 1: from outside? Wait? What is that the one she's Angela 1472 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Davis or something. No, It's like she has a video 1473 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: where she's hold It almost looks like she's in like 1474 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: Ace music video, like where they are shooting her from 1475 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: super far away and she's like, hand, oh it's bad, 1476 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and they shot they shot that from three range, bro, 1477 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Like that ship is all the way back and it 1478 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,560 Speaker 1: looks mad Wine whoever directed that was like, you know what, 1479 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: let's get everything we can in this shot. And there's 1480 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: nothing in that room but Milannie in a chair and 1481 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: it does look wild formation like I it's wild. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 1482 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 1: damn bro, it's wild that like And also like the 1483 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: presidents on Twitter, you know out here just like shooting 1484 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: wild threats out to people's like, Hey, just so you know, 1485 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: if you come to TUSA on the tweed, it is 1486 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 1: like it won't be like these protests and stuff are like, bro, 1487 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Like, I don't know if 1488 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 1: it's it's it's what those you know, charged up white 1489 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: people do who think, you know, nine anti foes are 1490 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: about to pull up? Uh yeah, yeah, what do I mean? 1491 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,760 Speaker 1: That's like the other information wave. It's so funny to watch, 1492 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 1: Like thank god my parents on like aren't on that 1493 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Facebook ship, but there are so many of my friends 1494 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 1: who are like I don't know what the funk happened to, 1495 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: like my mom or dad mom. Where can people find 1496 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: you and follow you? Um? First off, stop looking for 1497 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 1: me a second. You can find me on Twitter at 1498 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: Mama do and g I m A m o U 1499 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 1: d o U N d I A y e. And 1500 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 1: you can find me on Instagram at Mama Do about nothing, 1501 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: m A m o U d o U about nothing. 1502 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 1: And I have a partnership with Color of Change where 1503 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 1: we create a partnership where we're trying to find a 1504 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,760 Speaker 1: way to talk about social justice through comedy. Uh, and 1505 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be coming out soon. So look out for 1506 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 1: bias for us cool? Uh? And what is it? Is 1507 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: there a tweet or the work of social media that 1508 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,760 Speaker 1: you like? Do you want to shout out? Oh man, 1509 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: listen Alaskan carl One, you know who you are, Like 1510 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: we all became the nigga eating beans. Uh, so we 1511 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,240 Speaker 1: feel like you're pain Like, shout out to my man. 1512 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: As I read that shion when I was a teacher 1513 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 1: still and I was like, damn, I love black teenagers 1514 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, protect them, Protect every single fucking black 1515 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,920 Speaker 1: child out there, because yo, y'all are dumb. Funny to 1516 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: black Zoom, the black gen Z kids, gen Z, It's 1517 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: like so funny. We're just saying, like, shout out to 1518 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 1: gen Z man. Like even when you're roasting us, I'm like, 1519 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 1: this is fucking great, Like I love it. This is 1520 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 1: how this is not. White people feel like comedy sos 1521 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,200 Speaker 1: and black people be like yeah, white people like, yeah, 1522 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,240 Speaker 1: I did tell a cop. I didn't know I couldn't 1523 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: do that. I am. I am a griffin door oh man, lazy? 1524 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? What's a 1525 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 1: tweet that you like? Guys? Always you can find me 1526 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: at D I V A L A C I Dva 1527 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: Lacey on all platforms. If you love scams, robbery and fraud, 1528 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 1: listen to Scam Goddess if you haven't listened that. The 1529 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 1: most recent episode is Me and Miles and its super fun. 1530 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: Shoutouts of culture for writing us up about it. And 1531 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 1: if you if you bank with TD Bank, I'm sorry. 1532 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: We dragged you all a lot. And apparently y'all love 1533 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: banks and y'all need to let that go. We talked 1534 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: about capitalism. Let that bank love and go that bank. 1535 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,719 Speaker 1: Don't love you back, that bank, don't love you back, 1536 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: don't do it. Don't do it. And unless that bank, 1537 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 1: unless that bank is then you ride shotgun and lean 1538 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: that front seat all the way back. Right then maybe 1539 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: that bank, Yeah, we're talking about fifth third Bank. By 1540 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,640 Speaker 1: the way, a fifth third I can't um. And then 1541 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 1: it's a real which if you guys have been listening 1542 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: this week, Steve Fernandez is on the show. This is 1543 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 1: pin tweet and I found it so funny. He said, Damn, 1544 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have even occurred to me to say eat too, brute. 1545 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: I would have just been screaming. Even the colors under 1546 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: this tweet are so funny because people are like historians 1547 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: are debating whether he said E two brute or yo. 1548 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: I love that people can like look at these big 1549 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 1: historical works of art and completely dismantled them with one 1550 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: cent of characters and it's so fucking funny to be Yeah, 1551 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 1: if I was being stabbed, I definitely wouldn't have any 1552 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 1: cutting remarks. Oh my god. Also, you in the middle 1553 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: of before um and mad Nigga is just surrounding you 1554 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,439 Speaker 1: and they ain't talking suscribs me if you're just like 1555 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 1: listen to tweet. I like one is from at Hakeim Jefferson. 1556 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,759 Speaker 1: This is about Junete says Juneteenth exists because slavery existed. 1557 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: People enslaved people, people bought and sold as property, parents 1558 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: separated from children, women raped, people brutally murdered, all in 1559 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,639 Speaker 1: service of building empire. As we engage the smart reads 1560 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 1: about what today means, let us not forget this simple fact. Uh, 1561 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's just very powerful And that's what 1562 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: that's what it is, that's what we're talking. It's because 1563 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,160 Speaker 1: of how fucked up everything was that we're saying, oh, 1564 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: we are no longer in bondage. Really just simple, but yes, 1565 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,800 Speaker 1: please remember that that's that's what we're trying to escape. 1566 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 1: I think that people mistake emancipation with true liberation and 1567 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 1: freedom because we're not there yet. We're not there, and 1568 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 1: people also look, let us go and gave us an exact, 1569 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,640 Speaker 1: gave us all right, go over there and go. Do 1570 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: you work for free your whole life? But now we're 1571 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Your freedom is your payment for this big gass house 1572 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 1: you live in. That's off the strength of all the crops. 1573 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: I was, I don't know, I can't. I can't read, 1574 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,439 Speaker 1: but now you can. You can. Don't worry about you 1575 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: don't gotta read. No one gotta read the future. No 1576 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: one reads. Just what I'm saying. Yeah, Like on Friday's episode, 1577 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 1: that's the set can dairy dehumanization that black people have 1578 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 1: to go through, any colonized enslaved person has to go through. 1579 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Is not just the first part of enslavement where your 1580 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 1: body and bland and everything else is just desecrated. But 1581 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,920 Speaker 1: then after the pursuit of dignity and liberation is the 1582 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: next fucking layer of trauma that people have to go through. 1583 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 1: That's what I think people need to realize. That's step 1584 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 1: two after bondage is then having to reclaim your humanity 1585 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,760 Speaker 1: and that's what that process is not finished. Yeah, and 1586 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I think that people just need to realize that, like 1587 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't like an unpaid internship, like it was like 1588 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,960 Speaker 1: chattel slavery like niggas was to people, and then then 1589 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 1: they were three fifths of a person just to serve 1590 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 1: white voters and now like total college abolishing, burn it 1591 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: down like a target. Yeah. But yeah, I think people 1592 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 1: need to understand, like that's the truth of that sort 1593 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 1: of situation and we stop being so glib about it. 1594 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 1: And like when we see these slave movies, that's it 1595 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 1: can't just be like oh wow slave, like stop saying 1596 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,679 Speaker 1: you're aware of Slavery's aware of slavery like to happen, 1597 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 1: right and last my last week I like is at 1598 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,599 Speaker 1: from at our Money on the score bliss It says 1599 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: fake laughing with customers is a real skill. Uh, and 1600 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 1: that fucking hit if anybody has had to fucking yeah, wow, 1601 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 1: you are crazy. So yeah, somebody take the mal back 1602 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: away from her, oh ship. You can find The Daily 1603 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist on Instagram at the 1604 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist. We got a Facebook fan page and a website. 1605 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Daily zitegeis dot com. We're a post our episodes. Uh 1606 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: you know where you can check that all out. Remember, 1607 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: if you like this, check out the apple pockets where 1608 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: we get podcast Just rate and review us. Please tell 1609 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 1: your friends about the show. It feels like a lot 1610 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: of you been really vibing with the show in the 1611 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. UM really appreciate all the positive 1612 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 1: message that we received from people. Please tell people, you know, like, 1613 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: this is what we're trying to do. This is why 1614 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: we're energized to do this show, is because we like 1615 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 1: to communicate and give everybody of some perspective so we 1616 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 1: can all grow in as much as possible. Um. Okay, 1617 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,600 Speaker 1: So if you're curious about the song, we're gonna go 1618 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 1: right out on. I think I want to do one 1619 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 1: from fellow Kutie, who is you know, the god m 1620 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,680 Speaker 1: C of Afrobeat UM and his album Zombie is I 1621 01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: think one of a fantastic protest album, UM and talking 1622 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:31,599 Speaker 1: about the mindlessness of military forces to basically do whatever 1623 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 1: the bidding is of the hegemonic class, like zombies. You say, 1624 01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 1: go there, go there, you shoot them, you shoot them? UM. 1625 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 1: And this is from that album. I think most people 1626 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 1: know Zombie, but another track on there that I really 1627 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: love is called mr Follow Follow, which is about the 1628 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 1: same thing, about just the mindless allegiance some people have 1629 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 1: the certain things doesn't that doesn't necessarily have to be 1630 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,680 Speaker 1: to the military or whatever could be the ideology and 1631 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: things like that. And I think it's important that we 1632 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: we also make sure we are not mr follow follows 1633 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,120 Speaker 1: or miss follow follows, or for non binary people, we're 1634 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: just not follow follow people. You know what I mean 1635 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,519 Speaker 1: That we're cutting our own way and we have purpose 1636 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: and that purpose is equality and inclusive. Okay, well listen 1637 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 1: to that. Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back 1638 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,599 Speaker 1: later to day to tell you what's trending. U. Peace 1639 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 1: and blessings of all love you bybe Luke use y'all. 1640 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Side the Follow Who the Follow f