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Of course, first of all, congrats, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.640 you've been in the game for so long, and now 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:12.880 this TV show is like just turned into a phenomenon. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.000 And now now you're like, you know, you've been doing 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.319 the music thing forever, but now it's like how people record. 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.160 You're very recognizable dude these days with this TV show 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.559 man shout out to Dave wow Man. Yeah, Dave brand 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.520 new season two. Every day I'll be thinking about it, like, man, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.920 I'm really on TV and the show with my boy olod, Like, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.040 it's crazy, man, I never thought about being an actor. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:36.479 You know what I'm saying now, I got to hold 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.560 this title over my head because my whole dream and 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.600 passion was to be a rapper. Of course what you 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.000 still are, obviously, but you know it's crazy because little 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.120 Dickie he wanted to use rapping music so he could 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.120 be a comedian TV star. You know what I'm saying, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.120 creative You know, yeah, now I'm in this position and 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.240 now you're using the TV shit to help feel the 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.960 rap shit a few of my dreams, you know what 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.160 I'm saying, Never give up, baby, Yeah. For people who 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.120 don't know, like like where are you from? Oh me, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.920 I'm from LA. I'm central West Coast. So like you 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:11.040 would the whole because somebody told me that you were 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.960 like around like Tiger like early. Oh yeah, yeah, like 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.799 two thousand and six. Ged it's still GED still yeah. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.120 I see you got the I got see you got 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.359 the GED chain. Oh yeah, I just brought it to life. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.200 I'm still pushing it. Man. You know, it's my brain 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.959 getting every dollar, grind every day, getting educated daily, you 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:26.239 know what I'm saying. So kind of give us like 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.280 some of the roots of like your like hip hop 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.919 roots like out here in LA because I do remember. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:33.639 I remember the g D ship was also school with 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.840 Q was around and school boy Q. You know what 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.160 I mean. DJSB we've been rocking since two thousand and six, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.920 but basically, you know, I linked up with them probably 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.160 like two thousand and six, two thousand and seven. You know, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.480 we all believed in Tiger was pushing him because you know, 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.000 it was undeniable talent. You know. So that was like 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.200 when like Traviy McCoy was around his school. Wasn't like 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.960 Travy McCoy related to Tiger or something? Oh yeah, but 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.920 to keep it a buck though that was just a 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.720 marketing plot. They're not even really related. Okay, okay, okay, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.160 you know what I'm saying. But because at the time 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.519 Travy was scorching. But it is what it is though, 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.880 Like that was just the first half of our lives. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.240 You know what I'm saying, all of us. You know 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.120 that that gave us a jump start. And I missed 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:12.760 those times and I think about those times and how 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.799 they groomed me for the position that I'm in now. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.600 Like just to be on tour with Gym Class heroes, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.720 fall Out Boy, Lil Wayne, and to be with my 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.320 homies from the block and stuff like that. It was 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.360 just like it was a great feeling. But I learned 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.519 a lot since then, so that was a blessing. Yeah. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:29.120 I mean, if you think about like Tiger Q, yourself, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.920 I mean to look back on, like how special of 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.200 an assortment of people, just like the fact that we 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.880 all on Yo, That's what I'm saying. It's just everybody's all. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.520 You know what I'm saying, Even if we're not together, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.240 I could just stand over here and just feel good, like, yeah, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.680 Q doing this thing. You know what I'm saying, t 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.120 doing this thing. You know what I'm saying, It's just 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.680 just a great feeling to know that we blossom into 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.360 the man and the artists that we are. You know, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.720 it's just cool. And GD was your thing. It's all 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.720 of our things. But I'm the one that started it. 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.320 I ain't gonna lie. Look, I'm still pushing it right, right, right, right, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.480 But look, you know what I'm saying. It's fifteen years later. Yeah, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.680 fifteen years later, I'm still holding it down. I still 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.320 got the ged merge, still pushing it every day because 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.120 this is forever to me, like when I started this, forever. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.920 I can't run from the tattoo on my face, you 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.560 know what I'm saying. I can't never acknowledge, not acknowledged 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.240 with something that I believe in, you know, right. And 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.400 I'm pushing it every day because it's just a good mindset, 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.159 like getting educated daily, grind every day, getting every dollar. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.080 It's just a it's a great ideas that you need. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.960 And I'm saying to make it so you Originally, like 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.120 everybody was like, okay, Tigers, Tiger's kind of our way 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.040 in the game. Yeah, for sure. It was like Nelly 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.960 in the same lunatics. Bro. It was like he was 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.400 the Nelly. We was the same lunatics. Let's go. You 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.440 feel me like kick the dooring for us. That's what 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.960 he did. And he kicked the door. And that's how 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:39.599 I was able to get the Lil Wayne songs. I 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.800 was being able to travel the world, go to Japan, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.960 you know, learn about the whole music industry. When he 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.640 signed his first record deal, I was at the table 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.599 right there with the lawyers sitting there, so I was 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:51.480 soaking up games. This is the coconut. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.520 And all of that was just growth and learning. You 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.359 know what I'm saying. Because none of those things that 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:56.960 we did, I don't regret none of it, you know 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.520 what I'm saying. It panned out beautiful for all of us, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.440 for sure, for sure, No, one hundred percent. Yeah No, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.400 I mean I think you know, because I remember back 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.640 then when Tiger first came out, everybody was kind of 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.520 like there was this this buzz about him being like 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.280 the guy who could hang with Little Wayne from the 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.479 West Coast on young Money. Yeah, it was crazy. Do 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.040 you gotta think about it? Were from the West Coast, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.640 you know what I'm saying. We on Tubeok, the game, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.560 you know what I'm saying, the real West Coast flavor. 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.400 So for us to like transition into being one of 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:26.839 the biggest rappers in the world, it was just a 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.200 great feeling because everybody knew Wayne was popping and I'm 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.680 the one that was telling Tea like, Yo, man, let's 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.760 let's do this. Bro. Send all your music to Wayne. Bro, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.760 you need to eat the harvest right now, Bro, like 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.600 go and you guys were on the road with Gym 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.400 Class Heroes, Fallout Boy and Lil Wayne. Was that the tour? No, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.839 that wasn't the tour, but us being on tour with 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.599 Fallout Boy and Gym Class Heroes, that's a hell of 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.400 a tour. Back then it led to the being in 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.560 the same places as right Ka Met Lil Wayne two 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:57.640 thousand and eight MTV vm A. Right, it was supposed 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.719 to be Fallout Boy, Lil Wayne, and like I think 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.520 it was a Tea Pain or somebody was supposed to perform. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.720 Sounds about right for that for that, Yeah, but I 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.000 don't think t Pain could could perform because he was 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.520 in the suite at the poems with Kanye doing that 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.000 other song What's Life. Yeah, they was doing that song. 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.000 So they was like, damn, we needed somebody else to 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.000 feel in te Pain or Kanye spot. I think for 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.400 the song it was so it was just like yo, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.720 tw youer go to your moment and that's how they Wow, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:24.840 they really did that song too. It was dope. It's 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.520 called arms Race. I still remember it like it was 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.320 just I remember that song. Yeah, it was crazy, man, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.320 Like those was the days that made me feel like 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.560 you're really soaking up and learning, man. So that's why 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.600 everything to come my way. I'll be feeling so well prepared. 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.159 Like even sitting right here with you, I'm just so 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.160 well prepared, you know what I mean. Like, yeah, it's 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.320 crazy because being around like, uh, you know, fall Out 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.480 Boy at that time is the biggest band gym class 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.560 Hero is probably the hottest band. Oh yeah, for sure. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.839 I still talk the track man. Yeah. It got a 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.919 new song too, called Spoon for the Cinnemon. He's a 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.040 fucking legend, Yeah, legend, dude. If it wasn't for him, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.800 I wouldn't have my lip period, I wouldn't, you know. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.440 They had a song called That's the Way I Dressed. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.839 They had a song called Pillmatic. Oh I love that yeah, man, 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.799 Jim Jim Jim Class Heroes had some shit before they popped. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.640 My favorite song was Viva a White Girl. Yeah, yes, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.040 now Jim Class Heroes had some shit. But it's crazy 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.400 because you're obviously coming from South Central and then kind 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.040 of cutting your teeth in the game like around like 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.679 the other side of the music business, though not necessarily 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.240 the rap shit, but kind of being on the road 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.880 seeing what it's like to you know, it made me 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.920 realize and I learned that all your money comes from 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.640 touring because you gotta break so much down with the label, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.600 the manager to break even your crew and all that. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.120 But when you on tour, that's when you really eat, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.440 you know what I mean. You could go out there, 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.040 get a real bag, you could push your merch and stuff, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:41.640 and you know, people might take a percentage of that, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.200 but when you tour a lot, that's where a lot 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.160 of your money coming from. So when I learned that, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.080 I'm like, man, I love being on the road because 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.120 it would be dates where I mean, it would be 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.880 tours where people on the road for like four or 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.480 five months. They don't do that no more, you know, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.400 I mean, not no more. He don't drop no album 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.760 be on the road for four months, So it made 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.160 me appreciate that. Yeah, even just like just seeing the 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.320 game from like the alternative rock perspectives had to be different, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.680 you know, like give you like a different like apro 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.400 because you know, we're still used to like coming up 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.200 in the hip hop game. There's the way you do it, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.960 and that's just kind of it is what it is. 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.960 But like there's a whole other world of music, you 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.560 know what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's crazy how those 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.640 worlds they do combine. The fans, the fans meet, you know, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.880 emo and the whole you know what I'm saying. Now 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.760 you see it, hear it in a lot of music. Yeah, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.600 Now you hear like the trippy reds of the world, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.320 the ex's of the world, and it's like that. Yeah, 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.640 it's like all these genres are kind of just coming together. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.880 Juice World, Juice World, you know what I'm saying, one 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.440 hundred percent? So how did you go from the So 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.720 the ged thing was obviously it obviously didn't last long. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:44.440 What was kind of like what happened with that where 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.480 like everybody went throwing separate ways? What exactly happened there? 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.680 We just grew apart you know, like once Tigers stopped 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.520 working with the people that he was working with on 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.360 his Coconut juice deal, he transitioned over to young money 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.600 and stuff, and it wasn't room for everybody over there. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.720 You know what I'm saying. Cash money is cash money. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.080 They got what they got going on. They believed in Tiger, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.680 and we was just happy and he got to come along, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.280 you know what I'm saying. So I was grateful for 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.680 even just going over there, staying in the studio, traveling 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.400 and getting songs and features out of way and stuff. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.520 But I didn't have no business set up, you know 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.000 what I mean. I wasn't over there to be like, hey, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.360 signing me too, that type of dude. You know, I 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.480 was just happy to be in the room. Man. After that, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.200 it was just like everything just started fizzling out. You know, 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.360 Tiger just started doing his own thing, you know what 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.599 I mean. What's Q doing at this time? Oh? Q 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.640 working on that album? He in there right now? I 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.560 hope TD. I'm no, I'm not. I mean like during 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.440 this time, during this time, Yeah, what's what? What's happening 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.160 with Q? During so he was just banging out records, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.800 you know, and actually he was going through a lot 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.280 of real stuff. Like schoolboy. Q really went to jail too. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.480 He went to jail for like six months or something 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.280 that he was in jail for a cool minute. He 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:45.760 was one of my favorite artists. We went to go 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.600 visit him stuff. I remember we went to County jail 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.800 put money on this books. But Q was being cute, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.160 you know what I mean. He was finding itself. He 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.560 was working on music, trying to perfect his craft, and 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.520 then he linked up with Tde and it was over over. Yeah, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.240 it's crazy because he was of my favorite artists. And 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.160 like I remember, my brain was broken a bit when 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:01.840 I found out that he was a part of Tiger's crew. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.679 I was like, what, Oh, yeah, it's real, man, it's real. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.000 All this is like fun facts. She could really go 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.840 look this stuff up, you know what I mean. So 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.319 what led to you? Because I met you in twenty 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:17.760 and fourteen, I think with Little Dickie. This was his 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.120 first tour, I think a professional rapper. No no, no, no, no, 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.560 this was before that. This was this was before say 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.640 that money, This was before all that. This was like 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.720 he had the hat that said you guys had the hats. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:33.599 You guys gave me a hat that said like a 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.360 little dick on it or so I don't know, dickhead, dickhead. Yeah, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:38.760 And I was like, I don't know if I'm aware 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.800 of this, but you know somebody will that I know. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.840 But but it was before Save that Money, and it 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.040 was like, you know, I felt like at the time 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.319 his YouTube shit had really just started to kind of 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.080 pop off. But like I met you, you were with 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.360 him then, which was like really in the beginning. So 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.240 how did you guys like end up linking up? Was 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.559 it similar to the TV show because it's show was 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.440 fucking awesome. It was definitely similar, you know. Like I said, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.800 I had a time in the music career working on 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.760 stuff with Tiger and everything, and he had a manager 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.559 that was managing him. So he reached out to me 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.199 one day when I was doing bad you know what 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.920 I'm saying, I'm down bad on the block. I remember, 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.480 like it was yesterday. I got a text message from 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.199 an he like, Yo, I got this new artist I'm 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.360 working with managing him. Like, I want you to work 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:22.360 with him, you know what I'm saying. He ain't did 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.920 no concerts yet, and I want you to bring that 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:26.920 swag out him, you know what I'm saying that, and 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.120 then I just linked up with him at the studio 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.920 in Santa Monica. It's crazy because I was gandering out 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.960 the gate. You know, I come from the rap world, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.400 so I'm like building my image of my brand. Even 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.320 though I had nothing, I still had the dream and 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.840 the vision. Of course, I pull up with a fake cameraman, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.120 fake personal assistant. You know, I'm walking in the building 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.320 feeling good, you know what I'm saying. And he didn't 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.000 like me at first. He thought like, oh man, this dude, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.839 it's too much. But I loved this music out the gate. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.280 I always thought he was talented and knew he was 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.760 a genius instantly, you know what I'm saying. Knew he 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.920 had bars because Luca, I you know, I've been around, 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.440 so I was able to see the talent in him fast. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.560 And then after to the meeting, we became cool. But 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.040 he told me straight up, like, man, at first, it 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.680 was a little bit too much, but he understood that, like, yo, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.120 this is what you need in the rap game. You 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.720 gotta put on It's a show, you feel me. So 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.240 it all worked out, man, and now we don't see 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.120 it too Dave it's crazy. Yao, No, it's crazy because 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.040 like I think it also like you were there, like 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.240 because I think there was like a weird period of 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.440 Dickie's career where like people weren't really taking them serious 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.640 as a rapper. Oh yeah, and then he had a 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.440 couple of those freestyles that were fucking insane. But then 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.760 like he started to make like real records, you know, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.520 because I was like when I would tell people out 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.880 a little Dickie, I would be like, yo, you got 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.800 to watch the video to get it, like the early stuff, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.520 you know, like you like you gotta see the video. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.319 Like if you just listen to the song, you might 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.200 be like what the fuck is this? But if you 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:50.120 see the video, it brings it's a whole different fucking thing. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.480 It's you gotta see the visual. But I think that 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.040 like Save that Money was like such a welly well 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.719 executed idea and at the timing of like having rich 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.280 Homie Kwan at the time, and it was like it 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.040 was just like a perfect storm, like this is a 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.400 real fucking record, Like this guy can make real records. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.320 But like, like you've been around Dicky from the jump, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.880 like what was the for you, Like when did you 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.679 realize like, oh shit, there's like, uh, this guy can 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.360 like be here forever type shit. Was it right away 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.000 or was there like a moment that happened like uh 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.040 after the Tin Westwood freestyle? Yeah, that shit was crazy 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.320 after the Tin Westwood freestyle, like just to be in 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.440 the building just to see it, because like, we're in 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.360 the rap game, so this is so this is hip 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.120 hop like all of like when people make songs for 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.440 the radio and you know, like okay, when they simply say, yo, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.240 this is going to be the hit. I love all 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.800 that too, but I love like the raw moments, you 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.160 know what I'm saying. So when I seen him do 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.080 that at Tim Westwood and how he killed it, I'm like, man, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.680 this is what the game needs, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.720 People like to laugh and you know, do the videos 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.400 and stuff. But I like the fact that he actually 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:57.240 has bars. I can say, yo, l D can spit 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.680 with the best of them. I feel comfortable about it, 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.080 you know what I mean, because I'm old school, you know, Like, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:03.680 so it means a lot to me just to see 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.559 him be able to spread the mic like that. What 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.480 was it has it been like? Because you know, at 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.120 the end, there's no song or plaque makes me feel like, Oh, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.080 it's the it's the little moments like when I get 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.719 to see him put together his songs. Yeah, I mean no, 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.080 I mean talk about like for you, like because you know, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.679 you're kind of you've been on the road with him 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.360 this whole time. You've kind of been like where you 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.360 see little Years, where you see little Dickie, you see 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.840 Yata period. Right. So being somebody who's who came from 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.840 having your own crew ged and obviously you know the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.720 chops that you had in hip hop, was it kind 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.440 of like was it easy or difficult to kind of 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.720 kick back and like play your position for a little 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.120 bit because that's obviously paying off. Oh yeah, definitely, first 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.200 it was you know, it took a few adjustments, you know, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.840 had to get you stalled, little corny jokes and all that, right, right, right, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.280 right right. But at the same time, it's just like, yeah, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.800 I got a crew, but do my crew really love 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:54.800 you feel me? You know what I'm saying. So it 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.640 makes me feel different, Like it made me feel like, Okay, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.880 I got this one man, this one friend who make 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.480 me feel like the world is mine. You know what 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.080 I'm saying it makes me feel good, and I know 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.600 that it's coming from a genuine place, you know what 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.880 I'm saying, Like when my boy got shot six times, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.000 Dicky sent food to the hospital, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.480 And it made me feel great, Like this is a 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.160 really great person on and off camera, and that's just 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:13.840 a great thing to know that he's a real friend. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.560 I want to rewind a little bit. You said that 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.320 you showed up to the studio and you had a 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:23.000 fake camera man, a fake personal assistant. Give me some back, like, 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.840 how does that? Okay, how do you hire a fake 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.080 camera man? Because there's obviously a camera, there's definitely a camera. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.200 But at the same time, what's your thought process to 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.480 hiring the fake crew? Is to like show people like, Yo, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.520 I'm hot ship. Yeah, that's that right there. Yeah. And 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.480 then number two, it's about creating content. I'm always going 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.360 to be documenting what I'm doing. And then it's just 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.480 about gandering. I'm like, okay, look, shorty, you believe in me, right, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.560 might as well come along on his mission, hold my 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.960 phone or something, make me make me look cooler, make 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.320 me look bossed up. And then I got my camera 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.680 man who's he wasn't not to discredit I say fake 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.720 camera because it's earlier stages. You just get the camera 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:08.440 to focus, right. So it was just helping and building 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.440 and bringing people along my journey, that's all you think, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.600 Like that's still important because I know that, you know, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.400 once upon a time that was very important. Like you know, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.320 I have good friends of mine who would go out 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.280 of their way to quote unquote fake it till they 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.520 make it right. And I think that there was a 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.960 point in time and I'm not I don't know if 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.160 it's still important, but I know that there was a 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.040 point in time or that was very important because you 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.840 only get one impression on somebody. Oh yeah, it's still important, 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.880 you know, because people got a brand. You know what 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.080 I'm saying. People want to dream, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.200 And it's called manifestation. Really the whole faked do you 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.040 make it? Think it's really just a manifestation tactic and 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.240 just preparing yourself for the future, and then you can 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:51.640 make it and still be faking it, you know what 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.760 I'm saying. It's people like I ain't want to say 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.480 no names, but they act like they're on a private jet. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.400 But they really on a commercial flight. Shout yeah, you 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.160 know what I'm saying. I mean, we all know WoT 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.200