1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: Third hour play and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: for being with us, everybody, if you want to let 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: up the lines here eight hundred two eight to eight 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: eight two, we are coming to you live today. Glenn 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: and I are here in Washington, DC, our nation's capital, 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: place that we have both in the past called home. 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: So we are former swamp dwellers coming back to see 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: how things are here. And we've also got our friend, 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz will be. 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: Joining us in just a few minutes, we believe. 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: I think he's running down from Capitol Hill as we speak. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Clay. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: The latest here is that Jim Jordan's speakership campaign is faltering. 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: I had thought that this would be something like the 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy campaign earlier this year, which took some time 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: to get going, but eventually, after what fourteen votes, he 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: had the votes and he got it done. 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: There was some horse trading, some negotiating, and that was enough. 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: Now, Kevin McCarthy didn't last very long in that role, 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: which has brought us to our current moment. But the 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: list of defectors is getting bigger. So far, and people 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: are starting to say, now it is looking less and 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: less likely that Jim Jordan will in fact be the 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: Speaker of House. So with that in mind, we turned 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: to what exactly is the plan here? What exactly is 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: the strategy. I'm starting to think if there was one, 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: we would know what it is, not just because we 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: could come up with it, but because the people that 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: have pushed this to this point would be telling everybody. 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when there was the fight over 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy the first time around. There were I mean, 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: we had Anna Paul need a Congresswoman Annapol Lena Luna 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: for example, on the show, and we talked to people 36 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: who had some procedural changes they wanted and some concessions 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: to be made, and when those were made, whether you 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: agree with them or not, when those are made, okay, 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: we'll go with Speaker Kevin McCarthy, and there. 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: You have it. 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: Now there were those who were upset with McCarthy's tenure, 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: obviously because he got pushed out. But now we're at 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: this point where you have to wonder, has this just 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: turned into a situation where it's like a rogue elephant, 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: like no one really is a little bit of GOP 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: reference there. Yes, no one really knows what's going on. 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean, here is Jim Jordan. He was asked about 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: a resolution to empower Representative Mick Henry to be permanent 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: acting speaker. This has cut sixteen play this one to. 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: Introduce a resolution to empower Nick Henry to be the 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: speaker ProTem on a permanent fasis. 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Would you support that? 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 3: I don't think that's the right way to go. I 54 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: think we should get a Republican speaker. I got ninety 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: percent of the Republican. 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: In the Would that help buy you more time? 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: No? I mean I think we should get a Republican speaker. 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: I've been very clear about that. I think that's where 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: the conference is. That's what our rules suggest. So let's 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: get a Republican speaker and get about the people's business. 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Can I just clay if he's not right? What is 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: going on here? You know, like, if what Jim Jordan 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: is saying is incorrect, that we shouldn't just get a 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Republican speaker, we shouldn't try some I don't hear much 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: of a counter response that. I mean, Newt. 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: Gingrich is out there, you know, pulling out the verbal 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: of flamethrower on this when he's saying that the people 68 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: who did this have no idea what they had done 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: up to this point. They have no idea what they 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: have unleashed. 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 72 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: And here we have Senator Ted Cruz joining us right now. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Senator Cruz, good to see you. You're coming in right 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: in the middle of our conversation here about what the 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: heck is going on up on Capitol Hill with this. 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: I know it's you know, it's next door to you, 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: so to speak. It's not necessarily you will end up 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: with a speaker. I think we're likely to have a 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: speaker by the end of the week. But they got 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: to get consensus, you know. I got to say, I've 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: been in the Senate eleven years. I've always stayed out 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: of leadership fights in the House because we got enough 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: fights in the sent if the last thing I need 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: to do is get in the middle of a fight 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: in the house. I made an exception this time, which 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: is that I've publicly endorsed Jim Jordan, and the reason 87 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: is Jim is a good friend. He called and asked 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: me to state my views. I've worked with Jim closely, 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: and my general philosophy on endorsements is to support the 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: strongest conservative who can win, and so I'm interested in 91 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: both pieces. That you have a real record as a 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: conservative that you've delivered, but also that you have a 93 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: path to victory, and I think Jim fits that bill. Now, 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: to get elected Speaker, you need two hundred and eighteen votes, 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: and at this point nobody's been able to do it. 96 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: A lot of it is structural. The Republicans have a 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: four vote majority. That means if any five Republicans right 98 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: off into the hills on whatever issue they're upset about, 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: they can de the vote. And so at this point, 100 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if Jordan is going to get there 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: or not. It's gonna be whoever can get two hundred 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: and eighteen votes. I still think Jim is the strongest choice, 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 4: and that's why I hope they elect. But they're either 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: going to do that or they're going to go a 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: third way and pick someone else that's a consensus candidate. 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: If they do that, I don't know who that'll be. 107 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Both of us. 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 5: Buck and myself have both said we want Jim Jordan 109 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: as well, and so a lot of people are following 110 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 5: this and the chaos, I would say, or the uncertainty 111 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 5: that is surrounding that. But let's go to what's going 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 5: on in Israel right now. And I know there's all 113 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 5: sorts of responses that are going on. I want to 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: start with this. Were you surprised? Buck and I have 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: talked about this a lot on the show, we maybe 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: even talked about it with you. There's been this question 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 5: of how Americans would respond if a modern day nine. 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: To eleven happened. 119 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, and nine to eleven for everybody out there listening, 120 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: is the time that America is probably the most aligned 121 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: in all of the twenty first century, no matter what 122 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: your political background was. The number of people in New 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 5: York City, Dearborn, Michigan, and then around the world Sydney, 124 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 5: also certainly Paris and London who have shown up and 125 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: said we're supporting a Moss Yeah, and we are supporting 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: ability to wage war effectively on Israel and wage terror 127 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 5: on Israel. Did that surprise you? And what does it 128 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: say about the left wing in this country that there 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: is a certain sickness that is opposed anti Semitism, Nazism, 130 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: even that is opposed to the very existence of Israeli people. 131 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: Look, Clay, Unfortunately, we have seen in really the last 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: five or six years, a rise of radical anti Israel, 133 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: anti Semitic sentiments on the far left of the Democrat Party. 134 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: It's prominently represented by the squad in the House. And 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: you've got AOC, You've got Rashida Talib. You know, many 136 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: of us have seen the video of Talib walking down 137 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: the hallway in the House where reporters asking her what 138 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: do you think about children being murdered, about women being 139 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: raped by Hamas terrorists, about children being burned alive? And 140 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: she refuses to answer. And we're seeing regularly from the 141 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: squad in Congress anti Semitic, anti Israel tropes, attacks on Israel. 142 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: We're seeing on university campuses, extreme anti Semitic sentiments. My 143 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: alma mater, Harvard, thirty five student groups put out a 144 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: disgraceful statement saying all of the violence in Israel is 145 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: one hundred percent Israel's fault. Apparently it's Israel's fault that 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: Hamas terrorists are murdering civilians and beheading babies and raping 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: women and young girls. I mean, it's it's insane. And 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: our university has become breeding grounds for these extremist views. 149 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: As you guys know, I do a podcast every week, 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: Verdict with Ted Cruz. We do it Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 151 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: Today's episode of Verdict, we do a deep dive on 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: how Black Lives Matter embraces hamas And and this is 153 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: part of how the left has gotten radicalized. Black Lives 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: Matter is an explicitly Marxist organization. Its founders were openly 155 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 4: Marxist uh And And one of the founders of Black 156 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: Lives Matter has explicitly argued that that that she wants 157 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: Israel to cease to exist. They hate Israel. Black Lives 158 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: Matter Chicago, as you know, sent out a tweet with 159 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: with a picture of a terrorist on a paraglider, referencing 160 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: the glider that came in and murdered nearly three hundred 161 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 4: teenagers that were at a rave and saying I stand 162 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: with Palestine and and the point that we make on 163 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: the podcast, we do a deep dive into the history 164 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: of Black Lives Matter and not the phrase. Look, the 165 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: phrase black Lives matters are true as em everyone agrees, 166 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: of course black lives matter, but the organization Black Lives Matter, Inc. 167 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: Is a Marxist organization that hates Israel. That is rabidly 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: anti Semitic that supports a Moss And the question we 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: asked on today's podcast, is all of corporate America, all 170 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: the fortune five hundred companies that wrote millions of dollars 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: to Black Lives Matter, Amazon and Apple and Bank of 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: America and black Rock and Coca Cola, not to mention 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: the NBA that in blazoned Black Lives Matter on every 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: floor for a year. Do they support the rabbit anti 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: semitism of the Marxist organization they supported. I think that's 176 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: intimately tied up. Both Black Lives Matter and Democratic Socialists 177 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: of America, which AOC and to leave and the rest 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: of them associate with, are brazen in their anti semitism, 179 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: and we're seeing it reflected across the country. 180 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: Why do you think it is Cenator that, given this 181 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: obvious reality of a shockingly large contingent of Democrats that 182 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: take very anti Israel and I think it's clear to 183 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: you could argue at least very anti Semitic views, that 184 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: Democrat leadership doesn't feel compelled to speak out or to 185 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: call this out right. I mean Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, 186 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, etc. You go down the biggest names the 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Democrat Party. They don't try to tell the Squad to 188 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: get in line on this issue. They don't decry what's 189 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: going on on campus. Is it seems like there's a 190 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: disconnect there. Well, I think they're scared of them. I 191 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: think today's Democrat Party, it is the radical left that's 192 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: setting the agenda. The bizarre thing is in this Democrat 193 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: Senate in the House, the people setting the agenda for 194 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: the Biden administration, or Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and 195 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: AOC and the Squad and the rest of the Democrats 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: are terrified. They're more scared of being primaried from the 197 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: left than they are of losing a general election. And 198 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: I think this is intimately connected to the fact that 199 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: the corporate media has broken so they can embraced the 200 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: most radical position and CNN won't cover it, MSNBC won't 201 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: cover it doesn't exist. And so, for example, you remember 202 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: a few years. 203 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 4: Ago where several members of the Squad made a series 204 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: of anti Semitic comments. One of them, talking about Israel, 205 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: said it's all about the Vengjamins, that Israel is all 206 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: about money and money grubbing Jews was what they were 207 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: saying a common anti Semitic trip bimar yes, And Nancy 208 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 4: Pelosi was speaker at the time, and she said, okay, 209 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: we're going to pass the resolution in the House condemning 210 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: anti Semitism. And she thought, okay, we can get everyone together, 211 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: and she discovered she couldn't get the Democrats, that the 212 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: Democrat conference was too terrified of the squad to vote 213 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: for a resolution condemning anti Semitism. So what happened instead 214 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: is they wrote an utterly bland resolution condemning hatred of 215 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: all kinds, any kinds of bigotry, whatsoever, doesn't matter what 216 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: it is, just we're against hate, was their statement. Now 217 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: I saw that, and that was disappointing to see, and 218 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 4: I hoped at the time. I said, well, maybe the 219 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: Senate can do better. And so I approached Tim Kane, 220 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: Democrat from Virginia obviously ran with Hillary Clinton as her 221 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: vice presidential nominee, And I said, Tim, do you think 222 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: the Senate could do with the House could not? And 223 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: Tim and I together drafted a resolution it was Cruz 224 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 4: Kane that was a clear and unequivocal condemnation of anti Semitism. 225 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: It condemned BDS boycott divestiture and sanctioning as an explicit 226 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: manifestation of anti Semitism, and it condemned the antisemitic comments 227 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: made by the squad members for being anti Semitic. Tim 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: and I went to the Senate floor on a Thursday 229 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: afternoon and we had about fifty co sponsors at the time, 230 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: and to pass it we needed what's called unanimous consent, 231 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: which means it will pass unless a senator stands up 232 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: and objects. And so Tim and I went to the 233 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: Senate floor. We didn't know if a senator, if if 234 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: some Democrats, some left wing Democrat would stand up and 235 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: say I object. We went there and it ended up 236 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: nobody objected. It past one hundred to nothing. And I 237 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: think the Senate we were able to get it done. 238 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: But I think in the House they're terrified of the Squad. 239 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: You and I and several of your staff who are 240 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 5: in here right now, who do a fantastic job. We 241 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: were just in agi Land for the Texas A and 242 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: m Alabama game that was taking place down there. Yep, 243 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: I walked around with you all day. You get a 244 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 5: lot of negativity on social media. I didn't see a 245 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 5: single you might have heard one. I didn't see a 246 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: single negative word said about you all day. We're on 247 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 5: in agi Land. There are a lot of Texas A 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: and M fans. They were all fabulous. A lot of 249 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 5: Alabama fans fabulous to you. I think that's important because 250 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: it doesn't get talked about very much. It was a 251 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: fun experience to see how they responded to you. So 252 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: I just want to put that out there into the world. 253 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: Now you've mentioned your podcast. You have an incredible legal background, 254 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 5: and you are a constitutional scholar. 255 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: In my opinion, thank you. 256 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 5: When you look at what is going on right now 257 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 5: with these latest Trump gag orders, and also when you 258 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: analyze what's going on in terms of the motions to 259 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: dismiss that they have argued or are part of presidential powers, 260 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: how do you assess that from a constitutional level, the 261 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: gag order that Judge tuck Can has put on just 262 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: down the road from where we are in DC, and 263 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: also the argument that the January sixth charges on their 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 5: face actually detract from Trump basically has the presidential power 265 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: or we got to get to. 266 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: A point of order. 267 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: Can we have Clay's question addressed by you in just 268 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: a moment we come back, because you know, I don't 269 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: think you can handle that in twenty seconds. 270 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: That's about what we got. 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Yeah, So the gag order, I think 297 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 5: is blatantly unconstitutional. And this is actually something else that 298 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: I do a deep dive into in today's podcast in Verdict, 299 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: so we talk about it at length. The gag order, 300 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: among other things, purports to prohibit Trump not only from 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: criticizing the prosecutor, who has made a career out of 302 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: going after Republican politicians in a very partisan way and 303 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: getting his cases thrown out at the end of the day, 304 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: but also from Trump saying anything about any potential witness 305 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 5: of the topic of the case, which is so overbroad 306 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: as to be wild. Look, one of the potential witnesses 307 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 5: is Mike Pence, who's literally running against Donald Trump to 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: be president right now, and so her order purports to 309 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: say that the leading candidate on the Republican side to 310 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: be president can't talk about one of his opponents in 311 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: the primary. That is insane. It is unconstitutional. If and 312 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: when it gets to the Court of Appeals, it will 313 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: be reversed. 314 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: I believe, however, it likely won't get appealed until it 315 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: is enforced. I don't think the judge will try to 316 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: put him in jail. I think that would be a 317 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: massive mistake on her part, and that would get it. 318 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: If she tried to put him in jail, that would 319 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: get reversed within hours. I think what is likely at 320 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: some point is that she finds him, she tries to 321 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: put in a fine for violating the gag order, rather 322 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 4: than trying to incarcerate him. As I pointed out, even 323 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 4: people on the left. Irwin Chemerinsky, a very well known 324 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 4: left wing constitutional law professor, actually the opposing council. When 325 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: years ago I defended the Texas Ten Commandments monument in 326 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: the US Supreme Court, Irwin Chemerinsky was on the other side, 327 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: arguing that the Ten Commandments monument had to be torn down. 328 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: Thankfully Texas one to five to four. Even Irwin Chemerinsky 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: has written an off ed saying this is obviously unconstitutional. 330 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 4: He hates Trump, but he says, look, you gotta respect 331 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 4: the First Amendment. On the second issue, I think it 332 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: is going to be difficult to get an appeals court 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: to step in on the merits of the case until 334 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: after the trial is over. So what I think is 335 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: quite likely is that Number one, I think Trump there's 336 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: a very good chance he gets convicted, and I think 337 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: that could happen before election day. I think on appeal 338 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: the conviction will be reversed. I think this case is 339 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: utter crap, but that is very likely to happen after election. 340 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: Then, if you have any money in the markets and 341 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: you thought about investing in the crypto market, pay attention 342 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: to a new patent pending artificial intelligence tool that's detected 343 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: a sixty day pattern. 344 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: In the crypto market. 345 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: According to this AI, which is powered by the same 346 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: kind of award winning tech that's behind other leading AI software, 347 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: the next couple of months is crucial. Most people won't 348 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: know what to do and will miss opportunities. 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Well, he's actually here too. 366 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 5: He's out looking for newspapers. 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: He's out trying to find actual physical copies of newspapers 368 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: because I hear that it makes it easier to hold 369 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: the pumpkin spice latte you're walking around. You're less likely 370 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: to burn your burn your little fingers when you're carrying 371 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: it in a rolled up Wall Street journal. So this 372 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: is a story to Clay. Clay, can I just say 373 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 2: that you you've I flagged it you flagged or upset 374 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: if Clay all the blame, h we wanted to switch 375 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: gears in a big way here because we know it's 376 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: been a lot of a lot of heavy stuff recently. 377 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: This is uh, this is quite different. The story up 378 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: on Fox Business is that Victorious Secret, the very very 379 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: well known lingerie and clothing brand, is no longer prioritizing 380 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: wokeness because of plummeting sales. Clay Travis, you can you 381 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: can be our special Victor correspondent here, correspondent analyst on 382 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: this one. 383 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: What is going on, sir so one? This is eminently predictable. 384 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 5: For those of you out there who don't know, Victorious 385 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: Secret decided about I don't know, about two years ago 386 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 5: that using really attractive models to sell lingerie was not 387 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 5: representative of who. 388 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: Actually buys lingerie. 389 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 5: And so they decided that they wanted to go and 390 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 5: this is not a joke. This happened. For those of 391 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 5: you who don't know, they decided they wanted to start 392 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: using overweight women Megan or Apino transwomen aka men and 393 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 5: women's lingerie to try to be more inclusive and to 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 5: sell women's lingerie they thought would increase the overall interest 395 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: and marketability of their brand by being more brand inclusive 396 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 5: and by using all of those people to sell. What 397 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: has happened, I think is eminently predictable. Sales of Victoria's 398 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 5: Secrets product have tanked and they are now going back 399 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: to really good looking models in lingerie to sell their product. 400 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: And Buck when this happened, I said, I said, look, 401 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,239 Speaker 5: no one wants to buy something that Everyone aspires to 402 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: look better than they actually are. They aspire to be 403 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 5: in better shape than they are. They want to think 404 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: that they are going to look like the supermodel, not 405 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 5: like the fat trans dude who is trying to get 406 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: them to buy bras and panties. 407 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: Beauty is supposed to be aspirational, yes, And you know, 408 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: sex appeal is something that, as we all know, it's 409 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: like one of the most basic things you learn in 410 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: marketing or just from day to day life. Sex appeal sells. Yes, 411 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's a reason why these two 412 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: guys are sitting here right now doing this radio show for. 413 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: Example, and not and not selling men's underwear. There you go, 414 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: and what you see here is is wokeness taken to 415 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 5: its ultimate ends, which is to go after I mean 416 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: there are some There are some businesses, and there's some 417 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 5: business models where wokeness is not necessarily going to rapidly 418 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: destroy your brand and take more time, right obviously, bud Light. 419 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: I mean there are exceptions, but in general they can 420 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 5: handle a certain amount of wokeness, and that I think 421 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 5: that a lot of companies do so because I think 422 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 5: of it almost as insurance against attack from the left 423 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: and threats of boycotts. 424 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: The boycott's never really happened. 425 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: But in this case, the whole point is that these 426 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: women are beautiful, and you aspire to be beautiful and 427 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: alluring like these the women are, and so guys will 428 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: buy this stuff for their wives or you know, sweet 429 00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: it is worked. 430 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: Do you remember did you ever watch this Victoria's Secret 431 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 5: fashion show that they put on? Are you familiar with 432 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: the fact that this exists? I can definitely say I'm 433 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 5: familiar with it. Yes, So I have seen this thing before. 434 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: One year I had it on. I think CBS ran it. 435 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 5: The Victoria's Secret would do a holiday fashion show and 436 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: they would have all their Victoria's Secret I think they 437 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 5: called them angels or something like that that would walk out. 438 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 5: I watched probably twenty minutes in one of these shows 439 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 5: one time. It's probably the most effective marketing that has 440 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: ever happened. I went within the next week and bought 441 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: like two hundred dollars in lingerie for my wife. 442 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: Things that they had on the show. I was like, Oh, 443 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. 444 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: I went and bought it. My wife is not like 445 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 5: diehard lingerie shopper. So I think a huge part in 446 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: addition to trying to sell to women in aspirational version 447 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: of how good they will look in this gear, how 448 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: sexy they will be, also a lot of men buy 449 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 5: lingerie because they want to. 450 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's basically like wrapping on a on a present. 451 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: They want to buy it and give it to their 452 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 5: wife and say, hey, you're gonna look amazing in this. 453 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: And it's as if Victorious Secret didn't realize what built 454 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: their brand and they totally lost their way. 455 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: And you've seen this happen time after time. 456 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: Buck and and I saw this, I couldn't help but 457 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: laugh because it was so eminently predictive. 458 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Well, of course, but you know it's gone beyond too. 459 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: There was. 460 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: It goes in phases, and you've seen this with some 461 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: of these other clothing brands where at First, it's inclusive, 462 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: means okay, people who are you know, a little bit 463 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: less you know, no super. 464 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Not super rip like more yeah, or you know. 465 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: There's there's a slightly larger sized men, larger sized women. 466 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: And by the end of this, I mean they have 467 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: morbidly obese you know, non binary individual Yes, we're modeling 468 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: Calvin Klein underwear truly morbidly so at a point where 469 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: this is not even about aesthetics anymore. This is a 470 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: health crisis issue for somebody. And to be elevating that 471 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: as though that somehow is again aspirational something that people 472 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: would want to be associated with. 473 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: Me. 474 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: Branding is, as we know, branding is all perception, really, right, 475 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: It's the perception that people have of your product than 476 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: what you're selling, and that they would have to run 477 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: this experiment to figure out that it hurts Lingerie sales 478 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: is pretty remarkable. But it just shows how powerful the 479 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: woke impulse and the woke agenda really is. 480 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 481 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: And also, by the way, it's not just women. 482 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: I mean they sell for every men's supplement, right or 483 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 5: every lifting weightlifting thing. They don't put fat guys on 484 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 5: the product, right, Like there is no male equivalent people 485 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 5: want to aspire to be bigger, stronger, and faster than 486 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: they are if they're maleed. Do you remember some of 487 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 5: the things they used to sell back in the nineties 488 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 5: where it was like, hold this piece of plast you know, 489 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: made somewhere around the world against your stomach and you'll 490 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: get a six pack. 491 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I mean. 492 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: They're all these late night you know, or like a 493 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 2: little thing that like holds your knees together and you 494 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: just do some crunches and you know, now you find 495 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: out like a lot of these guys, first of all, 496 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: are on steroids, are taking like oh yeah, you know, 497 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: taking exogenous testosterone. They are not super ripped on these 498 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: commercials because they have the ab roller, remember that one. 499 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: Like some of these gimmicks. 500 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 5: Think of the million Suzanne Summers rest in Peace, Uh 501 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: just died. I think this week I was reading Buck 502 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: they sold I think three million. 503 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: What was the thigh thing that she the thigh. 504 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 5: Master fime, of course a thigh mastery, So I think 505 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: it was three million thigh masters Suzanne Summer sold. I 506 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 5: guarantee you that most of the women who used the 507 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: thigh Master did not look remotely like Suzanne summers. Like 508 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: I was talking actually with my wife when I saw 509 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 5: this story, and she was like, oh, we had one, 510 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 5: My mom had one. Like everybody back in the day, 511 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 5: the thigh Master was everywhere. One big reason it worked 512 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 5: was because people thought they would look like Suzanne some I. 513 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Mean, imagine if now to take the logic of the 514 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: Victoria's Secret campaigns, which now seems like they're gonna they're gonna, 515 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: you know, switch and go to a different direction again, 516 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: but you would have a really hard time selling you know, 517 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: workout supplements pre workout for example, uh, you know, creatine 518 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: and things. 519 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: The guys. If you had, you know, some guy with 520 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: like a big gut. 521 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: Four hundred pounds, you know, Cheeto's dust all over his 522 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 5: face or something like, that's not gonna go well. And 523 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: I never bought in to the idea that a woman 524 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: would walk into Victoria's Secret and say, I'm not as 525 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: hot as the one of the hottest women in the 526 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: history of the world, and so I can't buy this bra. 527 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: Like that never made sense to me because the whole 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 5: history of sales, like look at the J. C. Penny 529 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: catalog back in the day, better looking models than the 530 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: average person helped to sell all products. 531 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: He watch movies. 532 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 5: Most movies don't feature a lot of ugly people, even 533 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: The Crown, The Crown that's going on right now, which 534 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 5: I believe your Lovely Life Carrie has got you watching. 535 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: The dude they have play in Prince Charles in the 536 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 5: Crown is incredibly good looking. 537 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Prince Charles not a good looking dude, isn't he McNulty 538 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: from the Wire? The same or actor? I think he's. 539 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 5: A good looking guy, right, and Prince Charles, no offense, 540 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 5: not a particularly good looking man. 541 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 542 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: Look, I think that you're gonna see some of these 543 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: campaigns are just going to realize it doesn't work anymore, 544 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: and they'll quietly start to start to shift it around. 545 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: But one thing that the left cannot do beauty standards 546 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: and what people find attractive. 547 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: They are very durable. 548 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: It is very You can tell people you are supposed 549 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: to find this attractive, but they're buying patterns and what 550 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: they actually think will not shift one bit, just because 551 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: the culture pretends. Because I think also even the people 552 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: who are saying this stuff don't really believe. 553 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: Well. 554 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: Also there's a biological component too, right, like why men 555 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 5: like women overwhelmingly around the world who look fairly similar 556 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 5: regardless of what you know, continent you're talking about, what 557 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: country you're talking about is because ultimately the goal is 558 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 5: to have kids and healthy looking women. 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Yeah? 587 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: Did you see what happened with one of the founders 588 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 5: of BLM? 589 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: Buck? 590 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: Have you seen these photos? Are you aware of what 591 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: I believe? It's Patrice Colors, who is one of the 592 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: founders of BLM. Do you know what she is now 593 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: doing for a living? I have seen online that she 594 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: is some form of Is she like a nude performance artist? 595 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? I cannot voto of her where she's 596 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: not wearing any clothing? Am I am? I incorrect? No? No, 597 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: you're accurate. 598 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: So we allowed as a as a country, we allowed 599 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 5: these crazy lunatics who were the founders of BLM, And 600 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 5: it's true that they're a Marxist organization. In all of 601 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 5: these comments are one hundred percent accurate. But I saw 602 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 5: this yesterday and I couldn't believe this is real. This 603 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: is from Christopher Rufo, who does fabulous work. He's been 604 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 5: one of the I would say maybe the reason that 605 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: Glenn youngkin one in Virginia was the work that he 606 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: did on CRT and how woke the teaching agenda had begun, 607 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: He tweeted. I wanted to see what BLM co founder 608 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: Patrise Culors had been up to since she resigned from 609 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: the organization. She is now a modern artist and buck 610 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 5: this is a heck of a form of modern art. 611 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: Maybe she and Hunter Biden can get together at some 612 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: point and he can paint her like like the French girls, 613 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 5: to quote Titanic. But she is fully nude now, painting 614 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: herself gold and walking around. I'm not sure what the 615 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: impetus is for this modern art exhibition. But she bought 616 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 5: a multi million dollar home with a gate in Los Angeles. 617 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 5: They don't know what happened to millions and millions of 618 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: dollars that went into the BLM coffers. 619 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: Wait it didn't. Hold on, Hold on, Clay, you're telling me. 620 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: It didn't end racism, did not. I mean they had 621 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: the noble goal. 622 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: This is hard to believe because that was the whole 623 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: These companies were writing checks to stop all the racism. Yes, 624 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: and it sounds like the check just went to people 625 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: buying things for themselves. 626 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: You need to see these photos because when you look 627 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: at these photos, you will think to yourself, my goodness, 628 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 5: we totally uprooted policing in the United States because this 629 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 5: crazy chick and a couple of other people like her 630 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 5: tried to argue that the United States was fundamentally racist 631 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 5: because of what happened with George Floyd and all of 632 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: these grifters. They got not even millions, tens of millions 633 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: of dollars. She has now resigned after being caught spending 634 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 5: money on multimillion dollar homes, and she is now a 635 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 5: modern artist who paid to her self gold and engages 636 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: in naked forms of art. Now again sounds to me 637 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 5: like she and Hunter Biden are a match made together. 638 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 5: I would like to see them working together. There's no 639 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 5: telling how much a painting of Patrise's colors naked painted 640 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 5: by the Michelangelo of our era Hunter Biden might be 641 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: capable of of of of selling. 642 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: Can I just say your analysis on this when when 643 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: way way deeper and more thorough than I was anticipating. 644 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 5: I saw this last night after after our dinner we 645 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 5: got to DC and I had to click. I was like, 646 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 5: is this a real? Can this possibly be real? That 647 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 5: this is how crazy this chick is. So between victorious 648 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 5: Secret losing its mind, which I do take now that 649 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 5: they're coming back to some form of sanity uh and 650 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: patrices callers at BLM, what we're seeing is the more 651 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: you were heralded on the left, the crazier you went, 652 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: and the more you end up repudiated by people with 653 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: common sense and basic humanity in America. 654 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 2: And unfortunately we've seen this cycle before. This will be forgotten, 655 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: the lessons will be forgotten, and there will be a 656 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: time when BLM three point zero is a thing yet again. Oh, 657 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: next year, I think it's very possible, and we'll go 658 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: through the whole conversation all over again, and the same, 659 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: you know, the same sham of oh, we need these 660 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: corporations to write these checks, and they'll write the checks, 661 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 2: and everyone will do all this all over again. Because 662 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,959 Speaker 2: there's someone smart said that people who don't know history 663 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: are doomed to repeat it, and this history will be 664 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: forgotten very quickly about what actually happened to the institutions 665 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 2: in and around the Black Lives Matter movement. 666 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 5: I would love to have seen the reactions in Victoria's 667 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 5: Secret as their sales begin to plummet by billions of 668 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: dollars billions. I guarantee you there were a ton of 669 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: dudes who worked at Victoria's Secret knew this thing was 670 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 5: gonna bomb, but didn't say a word because they were 671 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 5: afraid they would lose their jobs if they challenged this 672 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 5: idea at all. 673 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 2: And the good news for them is, assuming they kept 674 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: their jobs by going woke, they can sort of present 675 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: this PowerPoint presentation now to corporate. It'd be like, hey, 676 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: we have an idea for Victoria's Secret. Yeah, pretty women 677 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: again as the models. What do you guys think? 678 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: Uh? 679 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: Innovative, groundbreaking, revolutionary, that's where it's going. 680 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: So good news for them. 681 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 5: We will be back tomorrow. We appreciate one oh four 682 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 5: point seven here in Washington, d C. One of our 683 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 5: newest affiliates. We'll have some great guests for you, I 684 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: think Senator Josh Holly in studio tomorrow. Thanks for hanging. 685 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 5: We'll see you guys tomorrow