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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour once again.

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Speaker 1: We've got another great show for you guys and another

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Speaker 1: great guest. Now, you guys have been giving us excellent

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Speaker 1: feedback on the episode that we had with Matt James.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were so excited to have him, as

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Speaker 1: you knew, and I feel like you guys were excited

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Speaker 1: to learn more about him, because let's be honest, you're

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Speaker 1: not necessarily getting that from him on your television screens.

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Speaker 1: And my right, Serena pe okay, and that's all we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about on that day because that's all we got.

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Speaker 1: Love Serena Peach, She's got great energy, but we got

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Speaker 1: nothing for Matt. So thank god we had him on

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Speaker 1: this podcast so you can know that he there's a

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Speaker 1: lot more to him because you ain't getting it on

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Speaker 1: your TV screens. But it ain't about Matt James. We

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Speaker 1: had him last week. It's about Katie, who is our

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Speaker 1: next guest who you probably didn't know where you were

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Speaker 1: going to land with Katie after she came on with

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Speaker 1: the vibrator. You know, we had never seen anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but she has slowly buzzed her way into all of

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Speaker 1: our hearts and we're going to break all of that

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Speaker 1: down with her and all the rest of the other

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Speaker 1: interesting things from this episode. Yes, Rachel, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be a long, maybe not so

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Speaker 1: much of a hard episode, but we're going to get

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Speaker 1: all of the tea from Katie because let's face it,

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Speaker 1: it's no surprise she's one of our favorites. I loved

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Speaker 1: her to night one. She tapped Maria on the shoulder

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Speaker 1: with the vibrator I was told with her. But before

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Speaker 1: we get into that, we did see some drama go down,

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Speaker 1: and we're not going to do a full blown recap

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, like I said, we have Katie

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Speaker 1: on you can hear it from the horse's mouth. But

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Speaker 1: I think some of the major moments that took place

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Speaker 1: last night dealt with two Wish people, and that is

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Speaker 1: Sarah and that is Victoria. So I guess let's just

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Speaker 1: get into it. We don't need to go into the

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Speaker 1: dates in detail, because I mean, as you said, Serena Pett,

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Speaker 1: they had a great, great connection I think I personally, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: tell me, tell me your thoughts on this. I loved

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Speaker 1: this group date idea. Really, I actually would have been terrified.

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Speaker 1: Oh I would have been terrified too, But I found

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Speaker 1: it as a viewer so entertaining. The fact that they

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Speaker 1: had to blur out so much commentary makes me hope

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Speaker 1: to God that a lot of the girls still have

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Speaker 1: their books with these stories written in, because if we

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Speaker 1: ever have any of the you know, besides Katie, anyone

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Speaker 1: else on the podcast, you'd sure as hell. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to ask them to bring this erotica book. Absolutely not,

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Speaker 1: that's from Matt. Okay, I don't need to hear about

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Speaker 1: your sex craze fantasy ideas about Matt. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear it. I don't need to see that. As

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Speaker 1: Phoebe from Friends, let's say, I don't want to see it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: But you know what my main thought was when I

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Speaker 1: watched this day? What is the TV rating for The Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: Because we have come a long way from wholesome family

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Speaker 1: TV show. It's got to be an m a. It's

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what comes after that, it's gotta

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Speaker 1: be We'll think about this. Remember two weeks to go

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Speaker 1: when we were covering the premiere and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about the fact that now, as a family friendly show,

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Speaker 1: they're bringing on this vibrator, like, yes, it was black Box,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like ABC, it's testing the limits. They're

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Speaker 1: stepping out of this little comfort on this bubble, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and seeing like how far can we push

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Speaker 1: it sex wise to get viewers? And I mean I

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Speaker 1: found it hilarious they pushed it. You know what else

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Speaker 1: they were pushing A Perfect Letter written by Chris Harrison

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Speaker 1: apparently in twenty fifteen. Now, I wasn't a where Chris

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Speaker 1: Harrison wrote a book, and I'm pretty sure a lot

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Speaker 1: of us weren't. We saw it strategically placed behind him

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Speaker 1: as we watched The Bachelor Greatest Seasons Ever this summer,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, Chris wrote a book. Now

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Speaker 1: we have a whole date surrounding it. So if you

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Speaker 1: haven't already, Chris Harrison and the Bachelor franchise wants you

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Speaker 1: to know that he wrote a book called A Perfect

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Speaker 1: Letter and you should go out and get it because

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Speaker 1: obviously it is erotica, which is hilarious. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: it is Jews say, I need to know if there's

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Speaker 1: any truth to these stories. I did not, like, I

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Speaker 1: knew Chris wrote a book. I did not know it

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Speaker 1: like we know Chris in one way and I think

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Speaker 1: viewers know him another way. But this is like a

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Speaker 1: whole new facet of Chris Harrison that I'm learning. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen the cover? No, It's got Fabio on the

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Speaker 1: Franco was on the front. Franco took the picture. Franco

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Speaker 1: is one of the main characters. M Yeah, So basically,

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Speaker 1: we obviously see the girls give their fantasies. We don't

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Speaker 1: need to get into it. We'll have Katie on to

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Speaker 1: pick her brain because she was very well part of

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Speaker 1: this and since the beginning she's been very sex positive,

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Speaker 1: so we'll pick her brain. The main part of this state, though,

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Speaker 1: really isn't what happens during the day portion. It's at

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Speaker 1: the night, which obviously we see Sarah, who is not

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Speaker 1: part of this come crash, and then it just continues

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Speaker 1: part of the show. If you will, can I ask

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Speaker 1: you a question about there? Rodic could say, I do

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Speaker 1: I agree with you? I told you want to talk

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Speaker 1: to Sarah, But I meant to ask you this. I

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Speaker 1: kept thinking if this were the other way, Like I

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Speaker 1: just felt like Matt's and they joked with him. Matt's

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Speaker 1: story was very peaging. How would the audience have accepted

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Speaker 1: if Matt had had a story on the love same

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Speaker 1: level as the women. I feel like there was a

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Speaker 1: double standard here. Imagine if Matt was saying some of

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Speaker 1: these things. I couldn't stop thinking about it. Do you

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Speaker 1: think it would have been as well received by the

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Speaker 1: audience the women would have, because you know, like they're

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Speaker 1: you know, horny for Matt. But I think, well, my

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Speaker 1: that just like, hey, here's the date here you go

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Speaker 1: read this to these women, like did he? And I

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Speaker 1: think I'm sure us that he had on the Serena

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Speaker 1: But as the lead, you tiptoe this fine line of

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Speaker 1: you can't be too out there if you will, because

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Speaker 1: you have to still appeal to the viewers like you

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Speaker 1: are the one carrying this season, like it's kind of

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Speaker 1: think there's a double standard. I could not imagine them saying,

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Speaker 1: right before we beat and I made her beep, you

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Speaker 1: different coming from men. And it's just I just I

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Speaker 1: kept thinking that I thought, could this day be in reverse?

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a double standard. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it could. Let us know, Yeah, you guys think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: please write to us, because now I'm very interned out.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about it in that way. And

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you brought it up. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I love doing the podcast with you. Does it

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Speaker 1: make me think in different ways and push the boundaries

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Speaker 1: and see things differently, So I appreciate it. Oh, you're welcome. Oh,

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Speaker 1: but I'm very interested to know see what our followers

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Speaker 1: but Sarah. You were talking about Sarah. Yeah, so let's

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Speaker 1: get into Sarah. I mean, I have my own thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Sarah? I thought first, one first thought was whoa

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Speaker 1: mighty is the fall? Because last week Sarah was great.

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Speaker 1: This week we were like, oh, this is another side

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Speaker 1: a week ago was a person, it would be Sarah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sarah flipped on us real quick. I mean my thought

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Speaker 1: how Sarah navigated this episode, and I personally don't agree,

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Speaker 1: I'm not confident she would have made it far because

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Speaker 1: I will also say, on the other side, we saw

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Speaker 1: We are seeing Matt's inexperience in this episode. We all

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Speaker 1: show before we saw it this episode the way, Matt

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Speaker 1: and I feel like if he had gone through that

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast, Katie, We well, Rachel and I

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Speaker 1: that you really wanted to put out there, that you

429
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of your message and who

430
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: you are on this show. But it wasn't some agenda

431
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: that I had coming onto the show. It's just who

432
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: I am and who I've been this whole time. And

433
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't until after the fact that I

434
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: realized how big of a deal it was, which excites

435
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: me because I do believe it's you know, twenty twenty

436
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: one women should be comfortable talking about their sexuality. You know,

437
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: I have Taylor Nolan here in Washington State, and you know,

438
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: she's a big advocate as well, and you know, I

439
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: just I appreciate being comfortable being able to talk about it,

440
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: and hopefully that means other women will soon start to

441
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: open up a little bit, because being sex positive is important,

442
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: you know, in a relationship, in yourself and your self

443
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: care and so many different things, especially in this pandemic.

444
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: So it was never really an agenda. I just continue

445
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: to be myself. But with time, you definitely see that

446
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: it becomes such an important topic for women, and you know,

447
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: hopefully more people can, you know, start feeling comfortable talking

448
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: about it. I'm going to drink to that. I love that.

449
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: I wish somebody would have tapped me on the shoulder

450
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: with the vibrator to butt in. I mean, it was

451
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: the highlight of the episode. I will say, I what's inside,

452
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: so you know, I obviously have no idea what's happening

453
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: when I come outside. And you know, poor Mari, bless

454
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: her heart, she's amazing, but you know, we do need

455
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: a comedic relief. Night one. Everyone's very yeah and intense,

456
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like I was able to

457
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: kind of provide that a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look,

458
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: you were a smart girl. You brought a night one.

459
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: Hopefully you stick around for a while and had it.

460
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure no one else in the house is able

461
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: to entertain themselves. It's along two months, let's be honest. So,

462
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: smart woman, I want to So obviously you've watched the show.

463
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: You kind of know you've learned now more than ins

464
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: and out. So how is it going for being this

465
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: resident super fan as you call yourself to watching yourself

466
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: back and listening to you speak in interviews and to

467
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: Matt and to all these women, Like, what is that

468
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: that like for you? I mean, you think you know

469
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: what you're getting yourself into going on the show, but

470
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: then when you actually experience it's it's nothing you can

471
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: prepare for. You know, it's emotionally draining. And to watch

472
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: it and see the connections he was building early on

473
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: for me, you're just like, oh, I thought we had

474
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: a connection, but obviously you have a connection with all

475
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: these other women too, And so you seem to watch

476
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: it back and to relive some of those emotions and

477
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,239
Speaker 1: those memories, and you know, it wasn't really that long

478
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: ago that we filmed, but it feels like a lifetime ago.

479
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: It's bubble has done to us. Yeah, it puts you

480
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: in a few different states because it's you know, you're

481
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: in one mindset when you're filming, and then you come

482
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: out and you're in this weird limbo phase, if you will,

483
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: between filming and airing, and now it's airing and the

484
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: entire world has something to say and they have their

485
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: opinions and comments being thrown at you. How are you

486
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: able to navigate through the world of social after now

487
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: that this is on TV? How are you able to

488
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: navigate that? I mean, for example, Night one was going

489
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: to be a love hate relationship with some of the viewers.

490
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: But for me, I'm thirty now and I feel very

491
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: just comfortable and who I am, and I know I'm

492
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: not going to be everyone's cup of tea, and I

493
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: know how ugly social media can be, and so I

494
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: personally felt prepared for the backlash that you know, some

495
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: people are going to have when it came to Night one,

496
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: But also I know what my journey looks like and

497
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: who I am as a person, and that's all I

498
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: can really, you know, kind of hold on to. There's

499
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: always going to be hate no matter what you do,

500
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: and so I'm just very comfortable and who I am

501
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: as a person. Yeah, I was going to ask you

502
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: how old you are? You what, Katie, The more you talk,

503
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: the more you're my favorite. Actually you are my favorite.

504
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: It's not the more you are. I mean, it's just

505
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: you could tell that like you, I don't know, you

506
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: just had life experiences, You've been through things. You just

507
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: get it. And I don't want to get into this

508
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: just yet, but it segues into kind of what we

509
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: see happen in this episode because part of the show

510
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: is Survival of the fittest, and it's not a knock

511
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: to who you are as a person. It's just that

512
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: if you aren't strong enough to survive what this experience is,

513
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: it'll take you out. It is the freaking Hunger Games.

514
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: I remember on my season we were all like all

515
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: volunteers tribute. It truly is that. And y'all had a

516
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: group date that was the Hunger Games. You know, so

517
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: y'all were really in it. But I'm curious with you.

518
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: You really just seem to like have it together to

519
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: know who you are, which is also key to the show.

520
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: How did you get on it How did I become

521
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: who I am? Or how to go No No No,

522
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: that's another podcast. I've a couple of you are No

523
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: how did you get on the show? I just applied

524
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's so funny because I joke

525
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: with my friends. I'm like, oh, I'm the target version

526
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: of a contestant, because like, I'm not this Like there's

527
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: so many beautiful women's supermodels who are on this show,

528
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, and in Bachelor or Landsider, you know, older.

529
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: And so when I was casted, I was actually pretty shocked.

530
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: I was kind of in denial even like getting ready

531
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: for it, you know, and I was just my one

532
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: hundred percent self and I guess they found that pretty refreshing.

533
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: Like I had no filter, I didn't hide anything. And

534
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, they must think I'm a good

535
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: match for Matt, and let's go with it. And so

536
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: I just, you know, as a pandemic, this is a

537
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: perfect opportunity to date somebody. I've been like locked up

538
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: and online dating sucks, and you know, once in a

539
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: lifetime opportunity to meet someone like Matt. And you know,

540
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: I went with it. This is why I think we

541
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: like you because you own who you are too. I

542
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: feel like every time we talked to somebody and asked

543
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: them how they got on the show, they always put

544
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: it on someone else, like no one will just admit, like, yeah,

545
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: I signed up, I feeled up this application. I went

546
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: through the process on my own because I wanted to.

547
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: So I think it's so refreshing that you can say

548
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: that and tell everyone, And I feel like I can

549
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: relate to you personally because you know, I was a

550
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: little bit older and now and I'll say this to

551
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: Rachel all the time, like I feel like I joke

552
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: that I feel like a Grahama watching this show. So

553
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they still are having like good down

554
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: to earth quality and a little bit older, more mature

555
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: women on the show. What is it like for your

556
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: family and your friends watching you back? Like, I'm assuming

557
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: the Katie that they know is what they see on TV,

558
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: But what has it been like for them? I mean,

559
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: none of them are really surprised when I was going

560
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: to go on the show. You know, they know my personality.

561
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very outgoing and obviously I'm I

562
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: think I'm a catch. So let's stew me on the

563
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: show and see if mad agrees. So they were very supportive.

564
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: My mom, I will say, has never seen the show

565
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: and so this is her first time watching it, so

566
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: she was very excited. But I'm like, it's a lot

567
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: you don't know, Mom, so like, enjoy just excellent not

568
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: watching it with you. Yeah, it's you're refreshing. It's it's

569
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times we see people come on the show,

570
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: and especially someone who's a fan of the show. You know,

571
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: you're what we call the encyclopedia. Usually those people are

572
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: trying to be like another lead or another contestant or

573
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: player role because they know how this game goes. You're

574
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: so it's it comes through the TV screen that you

575
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: are authentically being yourself. You really don't care, You're very

576
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's it's fun to watch,

577
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: and then you find as a viewer, we find ourselves

578
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: rooting for you. I want to get into last night's episode,

579
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: the Erotica date, but you've already talked about you being

580
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: sex positive, and I loved how you gathered the woman

581
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: around and had that conversation. But we've missed a lot

582
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: of the date because a lot of it was beaped out.

583
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Now I myself took the liberty of filling in the blanks.

584
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure I figured out the tales. But

585
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: you are right there with the front row seat and

586
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: participated what Who had the best performance? Victoria? Take yourself out,

587
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: really Victoria, even with me in it, Victoria ten to ten,

588
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: amazing show. We actually had to reenact it back at

589
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: the house. She's a sorry blood. Who played Matt? Who

590
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: played Matt? What do you reenact? You re enacted her story?

591
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: She reread the story. No, I thought you said re enacted.

592
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, sorry, who played Matty? No? She

593
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: reread it at the house because it was just that good,

594
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Like we just did an encore and it was just

595
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: it was hilarious. And you know, with how intense the

596
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: house can get, we can all use some good last.

597
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Regardless of the dynamics and the drama, we thrive on laster.

598
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: So she was great. Did you feel like, I mean,

599
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: obviously this date seemed to be a little bit within

600
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse because you are so sex positive. Did you

601
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: feel like you were kind of like a champion or

602
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: a mentor if you will, for some of these women,

603
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: because I can imagine some of them probably got on

604
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: this date, and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm so uncomfortable.

605
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: This makes me nervous. How am I going to get

606
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: up in front of Matt and this group of women

607
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, tell like my deepest, darkest fantasies. Yeah,

608
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: I want to call myself a champion necessarily, but people

609
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: knew I was going to go all out with this one,

610
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: especially because I had PTSD from not getting to go

611
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: on the evening portion of the date. So every time

612
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta go all out. I gotta make

613
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: sure I'm here the whole time. And so I'm sure

614
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that kind of helped women knowing like, well, hey, even

615
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: if mine's a little vanilla, like we know, Katie's like

616
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: sitting the bar over here. So the good time though,

617
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: We're all very comfortable and having these conversations and that

618
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: was a fun date time. You mentioned obviously having PTSD

619
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: from not making it to the night portion from last

620
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: week's group date. Fast forward to the group date night

621
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: portion this week, we see you sitting down with Matt

622
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: finally having a conversation. You know, and in this Hungary's Journey,

623
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: if you will, time is of the essence. We say

624
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: that all the time. So obviously you're interrupted by Sarah

625
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: who wasn't even on the date. And so when you

626
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: see her walk in and her basically interrupted Matt and

627
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: pull him, what was going through your mind? My first thought,

628
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: just because there were so many women, was she on

629
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: this group date? Because I just didn't remember. I just

630
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of like let her have her time because I'm like,

631
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I was just I wasn't prepared, you know, And so

632
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: girls know and they're like, go get your man, and

633
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: so that's when I'm like, Okay, it's starting to kind

634
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: of come together, like wait, wait, wait, she's not on

635
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: the group date. What's going on? This is not right,

636
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: what's happening? So, you know, I let her have her

637
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: minute because you just don't know what she needs to say.

638
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe she wanted to go home, and

639
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: by all means, you can go home if that's what

640
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: you're telling him. But I just was not prepared, you know,

641
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: it was so early for that kind of environment that

642
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I just, like I said, I thought she was on

643
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: my date. Really, so when you realize she wasn't on

644
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: your date, and she takes her time, and you went

645
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: back and told the women, which at first Okay. I

646
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: love the secrets of events because when you left, I

647
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh, come on, Katie, like the Katie that

648
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I know would not let it go

649
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: down this way. And then you go back to the

650
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: women and you're like you guys, Sarah is here, and

651
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: everyone gets all riled up and Victoria. This is a

652
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: moment where I actually liked Victoria where she tells you

653
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: to go back in there and you know, get your

654
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: time back, and you did, and then we see you

655
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: standing in the corner and then you sit on the couch.

656
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, can you just tell us, like, how long

657
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: was that was that time period of you standing there?

658
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't five minutes, which is when she seen to

659
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: them kiss, right, couldn't you hear them make go? I mean,

660
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I like the concept of time during a pandemic. I

661
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: mean all of this like it doesn't make sense, you know.

662
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: And so I felt like I gave her enough time

663
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: to say what she needed to say, but then she

664
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: wasn't leaving, and so I just had to sit there

665
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, your time is up. I don't

666
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: know how like how more clad I can be like

667
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: you need to go? Do you wish in that moment,

668
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: Matt would have stepped up a little bit because I

669
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: felt like he left it up to the two of you.

670
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: But also there are moments where you want the guy

671
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: to want to spend time with you and be like no,

672
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: you know, like you're on this date, Sarah, kindly leave,

673
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: let me have the time with Katie. Do you wish

674
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: he stepped up in that moment. Absolutely. It's so awkward

675
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: as we're getting to know Matt for him to have

676
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: to see me being like this like leader and like

677
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: essentially a little gushy like hey, this is my time,

678
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: and I'm just like kind of sitting there like okay,

679
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Sarah moved no. But also he's never gone through this experience,

680
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: and so I don't want to see. My expectations were low.

681
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: It's just we're all kind of navigating this together, and

682
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: he's trying to do right by all the women he's dating.

683
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Obviously he's coming off his high with his one on

684
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: one with her, so I don't know how that went

685
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: with him. So he probably doesn't know the right way

686
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: to handle it, as none of us really do while

687
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: we go through this. But yeah, it is unfortunate to

688
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: have to kind of take charge and be like, this

689
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: is my time, this is my group date that you

690
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: are not on. Keep in mind you had your one

691
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: on one date why or yeah? You know, so it

692
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: was meeting for sure. I can't even imagine being in

693
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: that situation. Like as I was watching and I kept thinking,

694
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: how would I handle this? Because you think you know

695
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: what you would do, but you really don't know until

696
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: you're in that situation. I have to say you were

697
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: definitely the bigger person because Sarah didn't care about your

698
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: feelings or anybody else's that was on that date. But

699
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: yet she expected you to care about her feelings and

700
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: how she was feeling and what her motives were by

701
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: taking time away from you, guys. And then even on

702
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: that date, after she gets emotional, we see you go

703
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: after her to have a conversation. What was going through

704
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: your mind when you decided to do that and why

705
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I was started to check in with her. You know,

706
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I was getting mixed emotions from her and feedback from her,

707
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: mixed feedback from the girls, Like nothing was really making

708
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: sense that night, and so I just kind of wanted

709
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: to talk to her, just meet her, no Matt, no girls,

710
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: and just kind of figure out, you know, what's going on?

711
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: What can we do to give you the clarity, because

712
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: like I said, I thought maybe she was trying to

713
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: go home that night, and if that's what she wanted

714
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: to do, I will give her her five minutes to

715
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: say good bye, you know. But they was saying just

716
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: different things. Nothing really made sense to me, and so

717
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: I personally was just trying to get clarity and understanding

718
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: why she felt like that night was a good time

719
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: to talk to Matt when there was no closure at

720
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: that time for what she was going to do. And

721
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: so I want to get into because obviously the close

722
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: of that evening, you know, no one was I think

723
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: thrilled by any means. And then it trickled down into

724
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: the next day. We saw Sarah locked in her room.

725
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: All of the girls, are you talking about what went down?

726
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: And why she's not here and how she's kind of

727
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: trying to soak in this attention if you will, and

728
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: say she's going to leave and come back, And there

729
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: was just a whole lot of mess going on when

730
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: it came to Sarah this week, I will say, I

731
00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: think going to a group of girl girls, what was

732
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: there at that point twenty four maybe of you, I

733
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: don't even know. There's so so many, you know, for

734
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: Sarah to walk in into this arena, if you will

735
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: have all these women, and I'm sure she knew what

736
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: she was going to be getting thrown at her the

737
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: way that you then approached her later on and had

738
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: this one on one conversation when she was questioning going home,

739
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: and in that moment, what made you compelled to go

740
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: up to her room and sit down with her and

741
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: have that conversation and hash it out like an adult?

742
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean, just like human to human. You watch this

743
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: woman just be verbally abused by everybody, you know. And

744
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: sure she's been gone all day and everyone's entitled to

745
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: their emotions and that's fine, but like to witness it,

746
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: it just it wasn't fun to watch. She just felt

747
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: like you were watching this girl get beat up for

748
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: no reason. She interrupted me, and I felt like I

749
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: was less mad than some of the other girls who

750
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: weren't even on the date, you know. And like I said,

751
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: this environment just kind of changes you a little bit.

752
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: Tensions are high, you don't have your phone, and so

753
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: it's a tough environment to be in. It's it's the

754
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: hardest thing I'm sure any of us have ever done.

755
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: And so you know, when I thought that maybe she

756
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: was going to leave, well, I didn't want to have

757
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: happened was Matt to feel like she was the one

758
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: that got away, you know, And so I wanted to

759
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: really just make sure she was leaving on her own

760
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: and that there wasn't any unresolved feelings from Matt, because ultimately,

761
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: if she has feelings from Matt, I need her to

762
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: stay and explore that out completely. You know, I don't

763
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: want to be Matt's backup plan if Sarah was his

764
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: first choice, you know, And so just checking on her

765
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: and saying like, hey, how are you doing if you're leaving,

766
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: because you know, the girls like I will have your back,

767
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: Like if you have feelings from Matt, just explore that

768
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: and focus on that. And so that was really the

769
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: motivation behind it, is like I don't want to be

770
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Matt's plan. B H. Do you really think that the

771
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: girls didn't have a reason to be upset? Because I

772
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: agree with you, the way they handled it was not okay.

773
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not big on like ganging up on one person,

774
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: just like last week, I wasn't well, that wasn't the

775
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: whole gang. But I didn't like the way Victoria handled

776
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the Maryland situation, so this week I didn't appreciate that

777
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: it was her against everyone else. I would have gone

778
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: to her personally, but you said, you know, you were interrupted.

779
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: You and the girls were more mad that weren't even interrupted.

780
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: But I do think the women had a reason to

781
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: be mad. I'm interested in why you don't think they did.

782
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone can be mad. It's just

783
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: how you handle it, you know. And yes, the whole

784
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Sarah situation took up a lot of the Rose ceremony

785
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: and then into the next day. You know, we don't

786
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: see her, so we don't know what's going on, where

787
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: she's at, what's happening, And so ultimately, I do think

788
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Sarah could have also handled things differently. You know, I

789
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: think her being gone all day didn't help the situation

790
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: at all, because then we're all speculating what's going on?

791
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Is this an act? Why she doing it this way?

792
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: You know, I just can't sit there and allow people

793
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: to bad mouth somebody. You know, we can be upset

794
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: that our time is disrupted, but it just felt I

795
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just hard to watch, you know, It's

796
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: one thing when it's two girls fighting, that's going to

797
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: happen in this environment, but when you just feel like

798
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: the whole house came down on one girl and so

799
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: early on it, just as a human, I just I

800
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: couldn't feel good watching that. I will say I appreciated

801
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: the fact that you did take initiative to go up

802
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: to her room and have a one on one conversation

803
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: with her. I would hope that maybe some other girls

804
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: wanted to and it just wasn't aired or shown or

805
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, couldn't pan out based on timing. And also

806
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: to you, I think we're the best person out of

807
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: the entire group of women to do that. Not only

808
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: could you be this bigger person and have the confidence

809
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: to say like, look, you know, if you still have feelings,

810
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: you need to explore that. Like most people I think

811
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: would be like no leave by, I will help you

812
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: pack your bags and wheel it out, you know. And

813
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: so the fact that you, you know, again, it comes

814
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: with maturity and just being confident in yourself, I think

815
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: to say that say, but also I found did and

816
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: because I can relate to you very much, so the

817
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: fact that you were able to relate to her when

818
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: she opened up to you about her family and her

819
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: dad and the fact that he is very sick and

820
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: she's kind of the caretaker with her family members. I

821
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: thought that was a really special moment, and just for

822
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: me personally, my father, like you, passed away about ten

823
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: years ago now, and so I think to have somebody

824
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: that relates and that gets in and has lived through

825
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: that helped her astronomically, I think make this decision for her.

826
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Did you after having that conversation just feel more bonded

827
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: with her? And have you kept in touch with her

828
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: since regarding her father and the illness if you will. Yeah,

829
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, that moment for me was probably one of

830
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: the most raw moments in our experience together because I

831
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: had no idea. You know, it's so early on, we

832
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: don't have time to really get to know the girls

833
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: in our backgrounds, and so when that happened, it was,

834
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, just the most genuine, unpredictable bond that I

835
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: was going to have with her, you know, And when

836
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: she said it, I just I felt like this like

837
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: tingling feeling of just like oh my god, you know,

838
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it right now as you're talking about it,

839
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: and I get it, yeah, you know, And it's hard,

840
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: and then you just you I instantly just felt very

841
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: protective over her, regardless of dating the same guy, regardless

842
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: of what drama has happened at this point. Family's family,

843
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: and like losing a parent is really hard, and if

844
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: she's struggling with that, I cannot do anything, but you know,

845
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: respect her for wanting to be with her family, you know,

846
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you can understand we would do anything

847
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: for more time with our dad, and so yeah, it

848
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: was just the most unexpected moment while I was there,

849
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: and definitely bonded with her over that and became very

850
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: protective over her because we don't know what's going on

851
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: in anybody's lives, you know, And so here America can

852
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: watch everybody and judge and critique, but we don't know

853
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: everyone's story. And that's how I felt like with Sarah,

854
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: And once I got to know her story, I understood

855
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: everything she was going through and respected her decision. Yeah,

856
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: we don't see those moments very often, you know. We

857
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: we there people are typecasted and we see them playing

858
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: a certain role, whether they're trying to do it or

859
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: it's just the way the story is told through the season.

860
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: And so I found it. I didn't know that that's

861
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: where it was going to go, and to see even

862
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: even knowing because we were privy as viewers at that

863
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: point to know that her father had been diagnosed with als,

864
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: but had no idea how you were going to open

865
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: up with her and how you were out you all

866
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: were going to share that bond and it really was something,

867
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: and honestly, it checked me. It was like, you know what,

868
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: you don't know what everybody's going through. Now, that's not

869
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: going to stop me from giving my opinion on certain people,

870
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 1: but it was like, you you really don't know. That.

871
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Being said, if Sarah chose not to go home, right,

872
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: she was just like, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna

873
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: do something for myself because it really does seem like

874
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: Sarah is a very selfless person when you watched her package,

875
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: when you watch her navigate the show, when she talks

876
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: about her father, she's selfless. But we saw, you know,

877
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: a different side of her. Do you think, knowing how

878
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the season goes, you know, with the

879
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: extra women, with the alleged escort, with whatever whatever other

880
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: drama we don't know about, do you think she would

881
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: have survived? I really don't. I mean, like I've said,

882
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: it is the hardest thing any of us have gone through,

883
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: and if you have a big family thing looming over

884
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: your head during all this, you can't really expect yourself

885
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: to give you all, you know, And I espec as

886
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: she might want to, it's just not her time. And

887
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: I am probably glad she left when she did, because,

888
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: as you've seen in previews, things are only going to

889
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: get more intense, and if she was feeling this way

890
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: so early on, it was probably a good time for

891
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: her to consider leading the show. Yeah, yeah, I think

892
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: like you know, because I felt like, as a viewer

893
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: all episode, things are escalating and escalating and escalating and

894
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: getting worse and worse with her to the point where

895
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, like this is not going

896
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 1: to be good for her. I know what's to come

897
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: when the show is done airing, what people, what the

898
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: fans and the followers are going to say about her.

899
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: And so I think that moment perfect timing on your

900
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: part and her making this decision to you know, finally

901
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: say like an actual goodbye to Mat and leave all

902
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: worked out in the end. But yeah, it could have

903
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: been bad. But I'm just glad that we were able

904
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: to see, as Rachel said, more of this, this human

905
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: side to both of you. And we talk at length

906
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: every podcast. I think we say this is like we

907
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: only see two hours of an episode. You guys are

908
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: filming basically twenty four to seven. There's so much more.

909
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: There's so much backstory to everyone to still you know,

910
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: even in moments where you like think somebody's a villain

911
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: and hate them and think they're manipulative, and I will say,

912
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: like I get wrapped up in it too as well.

913
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: It's it's what the show does, it's why it's you know,

914
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: been around for so long. But to have grace on

915
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: everyone that's putting their lives on the line and their

916
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: lives on hold and coming out here to do this

917
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: just to hopefully find love. Yeah, I mean, the internet

918
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: is harsh, and you know, I do want to take

919
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: this time to remind everyone we all have our own

920
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: stories in our backgrounds, and we are the way we

921
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: are for you know, certain reasons. Some people are amazing

922
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: individuals and some people are struggling during this whole time.

923
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I've seen some things being said about

924
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: some of the girls and it's just a good reminder

925
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: that we all have our own stories outside of the show,

926
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: and we all are just regular people, and to remind

927
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: people to just think twice before being just this internetural.

928
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: Really that's two questions. Yeah one this is a logistic

929
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: list is logistics. Everyone kept saying Sarah was hiding in

930
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: her room? Did she not have a roommate? And if so,

931
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: who was it? You know, if that was so long

932
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: a though, I really don't remember who her roommate was.

933
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: If anybody m yeah, I don't, I don't know. I

934
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: just know, like I know, there was a time when

935
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: I went to try and find her and we couldn't

936
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: find her, so she was definitely gone. She was okay,

937
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: couldn't find her. There are times people tried to find her.

938
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: She was missing. So I just kept saying, where who

939
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: is her roommate? Like can't we can't we do like

940
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: a wellness check, Like can't she just knock on the

941
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: door and be like, hey girl, you're all right in there,

942
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: or use her key to get in there. I was

943
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: so confused by this um and then the other thing.

944
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: It was just what you were saying about, like like

945
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: no one should be, you know, a troll, And I

946
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: and like, we definitely have had our fair share of

947
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: criticism when it comes to being contestants and the leads

948
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: and now doing this podcast. But what about people, And

949
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm specifically speaking about Victoria. Um, I'm sure there are

950
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: other sides of her, but Victoria to me is not

951
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: a Sarah who you know was struggling with you know, yes,

952
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: with what at home, but also just navigating how hard

953
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: this in vironment is, which you know it's difficult and

954
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: you question yourself a lot. That's not Victoria. So what

955
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: would you say to the people who it's like, maybe

956
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: bring on this type of attention because they're playing into

957
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: a certain role for her. I guess it's the quin. Yeah,

958
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've struggled with that because obviously a lot

959
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: of people want to know, you know, what is she like?

960
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: And you know, ultimately I don't. I mean, we are

961
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: there on our own free will and do and say

962
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: what we want. And if you want to lean into

963
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: your you know, so called persona and just be this

964
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: like ultimate villain, that's your choice to make and the

965
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: consequences for you to deal with. You know. Yeah, I

966
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: do think Victoria probably has some great moments that you know,

967
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: America might get to see or not see. I don't know,

968
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: but ultimately we make the decisions we make when we

969
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: do and say the things we do. And fortunately she

970
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: may not have realized what she does and says and

971
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: how it comes off. And I do hope she grows

972
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: from this. But yeah, I mean, you see him previews

973
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: her and I don't exactly see I I and we'll

974
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: just see how that goes going forward. I want to know.

975
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: And this is something I brought up to Rachel this morning,

976
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: is why did no one tell Victoria to change her bra?

977
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: And like, I don't want to pick apart somebody's attire,

978
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: I think, like when you get into the pettiness of that,

979
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: but like twice now her black brie is showing throughout

980
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: the dresses, and like, was no one there to be

981
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: like honey, like here are some chicken cutlets you can

982
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: stick on your boobs, like maybe push it down a

983
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Where where was wardrobe here? I mean, you

984
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: guys saw how Marilyn, who's just so sweet, tried to

985
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: speak to her on a very neutral ground, very sweet level.

986
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: So you can only imagine what it would be like

987
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: when someone was correcting her on her parents or her wardrobe.

988
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: So so she had no friends. She had no friends.

989
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: That's why I tell Becca she's no friends in the house.

990
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: You know. What I mean? Interesting though, is because we

991
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: do see her in moments and maybe no one else

992
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: has really picked up on it. But like she'll go

993
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: and like hug the other girls and like lean into them,

994
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: and so it's like, I feel like she's still correct

995
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Katie, But it seemed like she

996
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: did still form some friendships with some of the women. Yeah,

997
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, she definitely has her good and bad moments,

998
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: like we all do. Like I said, that date either

999
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: Erotica date, she was hilarious. She was a superstar that date.

1000
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: We all loved it and laughed and it kind of

1001
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: brought us all together for at least a moment of time.

1002
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there's only so much that can

1003
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: be shown in the two hours. And like I said,

1004
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: you can't edit someone to be a certain way because

1005
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: you said what you said, you did what you did. Yeah,

1006
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: that she has good moments when she's the ciner of attention,

1007
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: and that's basically what I just learned. When she's the

1008
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: center of attention, she's the star, you know, And everybody's

1009
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: laughing with her. You know, it's something that she's done.

1010
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: She's it's a good day for her when she's not

1011
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: getting the attention. We see how that goes real quick.

1012
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Before we ask you the last question, I do want

1013
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: to say, because you brought up Marylyn, I'm not sure

1014
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: if you guys were aware in the moment that Victoria

1015
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: and Marylyn kind of had that beef. I don't know

1016
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: if you were privy to what we've now seen as

1017
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: viewers when Matt sent Marylyn home. Did that make you

1018
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: question Matt at that time, where you like, how could

1019
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: you keep this one over? This one? Well, two guys

1020
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: went through my head. One was yeah, absolutely, Like Marilyn

1021
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: is a sweetheart, and what I've seen in Victoria at

1022
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: that point send her home, you know. But also I

1023
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: don't see these private moments he's having with all these

1024
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: other women, including Victoria, and I'm like, is she's just

1025
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: really good in her one on one time with Matt?

1026
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: What's happening? You know? Like I see him kiss at

1027
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: the wedding day and so I'm like, is there actually

1028
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: a connection that I'm just like blind to you right now?

1029
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: And so it did have me a little nervous because

1030
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: not only with Victoria but everyone else. And so it's like,

1031
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: if Victoria's still here, what kind of connections is he

1032
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: building with all these other women that I'm just like

1033
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: naive too, And so that probably a really hard part

1034
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: for me is yeah, seeing Victoria's stay and wondering, you know,

1035
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: why did you see his face when he kissed her

1036
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: on that wedding day in a moment I was not watching,

1037
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: but Clater, I have seen his days and it's yeah,

1038
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: if you still if you still currently have that episode recorded,

1039
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I suggest you rewind and do it in SloMo and

1040
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: see the look. You know, men are terrible at hiding

1041
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: how they feel, so it's very obvious to tell who

1042
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: they're into and who they're not. They just they just

1043
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: don't have that gift that women have. H I'm just say,

1044
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: not the best actor, if you will. Okay, Katie, one

1045
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: more question before we get into a game, because we

1046
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: love our games, and this is something that we ask

1047
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: every guest that we have on and and for the

1048
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: viewers obvious. So we've only seen three episodes at this point.

1049
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: So up until this point in your experience, what has

1050
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: been your rose and what has been your thorn. Oh,

1051
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: the thorn would be just the drama. I know that's

1052
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: such like a generic answer, but it's so early and

1053
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: it does take so much away from you and the

1054
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 1: nights and the environments. Definitely just the drama, as vague

1055
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: as that is. The rose, I mean, you didn't get

1056
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: to see it. But Matt and I we get to

1057
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: kiss and we have this moment and you know, we

1058
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: are building a connection up to this point, and it's

1059
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: exciting because this is the first time I've been able

1060
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: to just be fully myself and he's been accepting of that,

1061
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: including you know, my night one entrance, and so for me,

1062
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: that's pretty exciting to feel like I'm you know, on track,

1063
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, given episode three and where I feel like

1064
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: I stand with you know, Matt and I. How is

1065
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: he is a kisser? I think he's a great kisser.

1066
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: Actually true. I saw Abigail like not really respond. I'm like,

1067
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: I had a great kiss with him. She's more preserved.

1068
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Did he kiss you with his eyes open? Did he

1069
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: kiss you with his eyes open? Hey, my eyes are closed.

1070
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. He goes, he goes mouth and

1071
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: eyes open, and I'm just like, this is not okay,

1072
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: this is I just I don't know how to reason it.

1073
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I've heard now from multiple people

1074
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: that he that he kisses with his eyes of him

1075
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: and it's like paid attention. He does, and he addressed it.

1076
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: You know, he's saying, he's like he's figured. Like people

1077
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: are interrupting so many times, like how do you really

1078
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: enjoy a kiss when you just feel like you just

1079
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: hear a rumble? Oh girl, you do? You do? You're

1080
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 1: talking to two leads. You get used to it really quick.

1081
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: And if you ever we don't know how far you go,

1082
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: we don't know what happens, but if you ever get

1083
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be the lead, believe me, your eyes

1084
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: will be closed. You want to pretend no one's there

1085
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: you and yeah, you're give a shit level. When you're

1086
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: the lead is just like whatever. We don't know how

1087
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: far you make it on this season or not, but

1088
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: when you are the lead, you know what it's like

1089
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: to be a contestant, and then you know what it's

1090
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: like to be a lead, and that's something that Matt

1091
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have that experience, So you'll navigate it in a

1092
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: different way because you'll have seen both sides of it.

1093
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you'll know what you're getting into, Katie.

1094
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: It has been so fun and we can already tell

1095
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: that you are just a blast to us, and I'm

1096
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: sure you were with the other girls in the house.

1097
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: But with that being said, we always love to play

1098
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: our fun little games that reveal a little bit more

1099
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: about your housemates. So since it's no secret that you're

1100
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: familiar with good vibrations, we're gonna play a little game

1101
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: called vibe Check. So we're gonna ask you a series

1102
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: of fill in the blank questions and you just need

1103
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: to choose one of the women in the house who

1104
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: best fits that vibe. So you can say any women,

1105
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: you can say yourself, and just spur the moment whoever

1106
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: you think fits. Okay, Okay, all right, so the first one,

1107
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: I'll kick it off Ridge. If Matt's Season or the

1108
00:55:53,880 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Oscars blank would win Best Actress. Victoria m I'm convinced

1109
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: she really is an actress. Okay, So that thats if

1110
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: you if you answer Victoria on all these I get it.

1111
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: But she's gonna listen to this now and think that

1112
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: she's gonna have her career in acting. She's gonna get

1113
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: into Hollywood. She might, she might, Who knows, she'll be

1114
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: on another reality TV show. Number two. There is a

1115
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse and Nimmy Colin Blank is most likely to survive.

1116
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Brie comes to mind right away. I don't know. I

1117
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: don't have a specific reason, but Brie. Okay, all right.

1118
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: Vogue is choosing one of Matt's girls for their most

1119
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: Stylish issue, and Blank will be featured. Kit m Yeah,

1120
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: I see that without a doubt. She was my roommate

1121
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: and our styles are very opposite. Did she wait? Did

1122
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: she offer like, like, hey, you know, Katie, do you

1123
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: want to wear this? Or maybe you should try this?

1124
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: Or maybe did y'all? Did she do that? I think

1125
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: twice she called me a softre mom. Oh my god.

1126
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what she would call me if

1127
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: she would. I like it. So I like this pairing

1128
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: with the two of you together. Did you pick? Did

1129
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: you get a pick? Or did the team choose for you?

1130
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: We just had a roommate and Kit was my roommate. Okay, yeah. Um,

1131
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: the river at Nima Colon is flooded with tears. Blank

1132
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: is the culprit. It's like me or Rachel. Honestly, you

1133
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: really we've seen your craw wants, We've seen your cry wants.

1134
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: I was taken aback, but I was like, okay, that's fine.

1135
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I cried. We all cry. We all cry. Well, when

1136
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: you're thrown into this weird position where there's a lack

1137
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: of sleep, you can't always eat at your normal times,

1138
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: you can't have your phones. I get it. I went

1139
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: into this season be like I'm not going to cry,

1140
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: and I think I cracked week two. I was like,

1141
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: damn it, Yeah, I get it. Okay. If all of

1142
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: Matt's girls were cupcakes, Blank would be the sweetest Maggie.

1143
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: Oh Maggie. I love Maggie. Yeah, she was one of

1144
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: our favorite since the beginning. Went through the cast bios.

1145
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: All right. The Fantasy suitees opened up a few weeks early,

1146
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: and Blank is the first one ready to attack Rachel.

1147
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: Really Rachel. She's very outgoing. I know we haven't seen it. Well,

1148
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: we know she was. She was being dragged down by

1149
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: somebody in the Hunger Games Capture the Heart date, right,

1150
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know I on the prize. I mean I

1151
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: like it because this is what this is why I

1152
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: like interviewing you guys, because I would have never pegged her.

1153
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: She's either you know, like sad about not getting time

1154
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: or crying. We did see your personality in the erotica

1155
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: date more. But yeah, okay, that's interesting. I like that

1156
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: all right. Next, there's a Survivor theme date on the season.

1157
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: The girls are kicking Blank off the island kit. Oh

1158
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: whoa there room made out there like that? Right? I

1159
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: mean the city girl like when it comes to survival.

1160
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: I just I think she'd be a burden more than

1161
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: a help. Honestly, the sun is out in nimicolon. You

1162
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: can count on Blank to bring the shade. Oh, Victoria,

1163
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: she's mean. She's not say people are funny, She's just mean. Okay.

1164
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison is to drama as Blank is to comedy. Oh,

1165
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,959
Speaker 1: I mean, actually I will say Chelsea. Chelsea's a funny girl.

1166
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Chelsea. Okay, were you almost gonna say yourself?

1167
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: I was? But that's okay, But Chelsea entertained a lot. Okay,

1168
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I want to see more on Chelsea. Instagram is looking

1169
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: for its next big influencer. Blank fits the bill. Now

1170
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: you've already you've already given up on one, so you

1171
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta know this one's easy. Well, and it's

1172
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: tied between two, but I'm gonna go with Sarah, who laughed.

1173
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: She if you've seen her Instagram, she needs to write

1174
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: a book on how to be an Instagram influencer. Oh

1175
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: my god, maybe she could teach me able to do

1176
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: with my hands in a photo. She's amazed, like she's

1177
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: like an A plus Instagram, Like if I had a

1178
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: grade anyone's versus an A plus m hm, and she

1179
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 1: laughed early. You know, most people who have that big

1180
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: the dream of being the next big influencer, I want

1181
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: to make it as far as they can for the followers.

1182
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: Kudos to her, you know, seems like she really left

1183
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: because she really needed to go, So good for her. Yeah, okay, last,

1184
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: but not at least in this game called good Vibes.

1185
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: Bad Shirt in Paradise is looking for its next vixen,

1186
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: and Blink has her bikini packed. M Atlanta? Who's Atlanta?

1187
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: The reason we have a slight, Paul, I need to

1188
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: understand it's because we don't know who they. I'm looking

1189
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: at a chart. Every time you say a name, I'll

1190
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: pull up the chart. I gotta plant on him too,

1191
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: I am now she hasn't she has. We haven't seen

1192
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of her on the screen, but I just

1193
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: want to explain the pauses in the podcast. We're trying

1194
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: to rack our brain with who this person is she

1195
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: the blonde? No, no, no, she has some commentary episode two.

1196
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: She's just she's a beautiful girl and would do great

1197
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: on Paradise. You know what I think screws me up

1198
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: is because when this episode that we just saw happened

1199
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: last night started, we only saw Marilyn leaves. So now

1200
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who actually left and who's still here.

1201
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: That's why so true because you know who I thought

1202
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: left was Anna, and I was shocked when I saw

1203
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: her on the group date. I was like, wait a minute,

1204
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, she left, but maybe that was Iliana.

1205
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure. Oh oh, so Aliana and Alanna

1206
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: both left? No, no no, no, Anna's still there? No Amati Alanna?

1207
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh wait, am still there? Alana spaghetti girl, Alana's lady

1208
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: in the tramp. She left, and Iliana left. Okay, Fianna's

1209
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: not Anna, Patia Potato. She's ready, She's ready, Okay Alana? Okay,

1210
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: all right, Well that was the end of our our

1211
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: our question game. Katie. It's been so fun to talk

1212
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: to you. I mean, I I kind of want you

1213
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: to come back and I want to talk again because like,

1214
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: I feel like it's too early for us to be

1215
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: talking to you, Like I want to see more from you,

1216
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: and then I want to talk to you again. I

1217
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: just like you. We like you a lot. We're big

1218
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: fans of you on the show, Yeah we are. We

1219
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: are huge fans of Katie. Um. Actually, I want to

1220
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: ask this one last question before we actually get you.

1221
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 1: I know we always say this one more, one more so,

1222
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: and Rachel touched on this in the trailer. Next week,

1223
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: we obviously see it. Well, apparently five new girls come

1224
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: in and so if you had to fill in the

1225
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: blank for what it's gonna look like, give us three

1226
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: words for the rest of the season. When when these

1227
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: new women walking tears and a drama, I mean, it's

1228
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: so cliche. That's that's it. That's what sounds like The Bachelor.

1229
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like all it meant. Last week's episode was boring,

1230
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: this week was great, and it sounds like next week

1231
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: it's really taking off. So I'm excited. Do we dare

1232
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: say this might? Well? I think last last season kind

1233
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: of topped, but could this be one of the most

1234
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: traumatic seasons of the Bachelor ever? You know, it's been

1235
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: a while and I think, having lived it, I think

1236
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: it could be. Katie. It has been an absolute pleasure

1237
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: having you on, and as Rachel said, we would love

1238
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: to have you back one days, you know, pending if

1239
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: you make it far. If you don't, who knows. I

1240
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: hope to God regardless we see more of you. So

1241
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us at bout your Happy Hour today.

1242
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: Thank you it's funny guys, and thank you for just

1243
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: being you. You know, it's not trying to be anything else,

1244
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: like just going in, taking the experience for what it

1245
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: is and like just figuring out it out as you go,

1246
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, just being yourself. And yeah, but really, you know,

1247
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: I think the one way to be successful in this

1248
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: season is just to be open and to whatever comes

1249
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: your way. Friendship, love, opportunity, it just it doesn't matter.

1250
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see you there. Yeah, thanks, ladies.

1251
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate your name. Okay, I'm a huge Katie fan,

1252
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: always was. I feel like we're a good judge of

1253
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: character here on Bachelor Happy Hour, and Katie did not disappoint.

1254
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, I'm kind of bummed we

1255
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,959
Speaker 1: got here so early because I feel like she's gonna

1256
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: go far. We just don't know how far. Because she's

1257
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: kind she's kind of given us all at this point.

1258
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: She's funny, she's smart, she's one of the older and

1259
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm using that in quotes women in the House. Now

1260
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: we've seen another side of her in a conversation with Sarah.

1261
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: We've seen the vulnerable side of her. We've gotten to

1262
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: know a little bit about her family and what she's

1263
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: gone through in certain life experiences, and I'm like, gosh,

1264
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: she's like the whole package to me. Plus and I

1265
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: mean to tell her this, she's freaking Christina Shalman all.

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Speaker 1: I mean to tell her that she well, she obviously

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: knows because she says she's well versed in Bachelor, but

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Speaker 1: she is just like Christina did when Christina was on

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Speaker 1: NIX season. She I like her. I mean I liked

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Speaker 1: her since the premiere night. I mean, I thought she

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Speaker 1: was hilarious with the vibrator. But she seems like she

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Speaker 1: has so many facets and she's probably one of the

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: only contestants so far. And yes, we've only seen three

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Speaker 1: episodes but one of the only contestants that we've seen

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Speaker 1: so many sides too. You know, usually we see like

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: like of it Toorio where it's just like this villain

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: edit if you will, or like the Queen and some

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: of the other girls who have you know, like we're

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: seeing so much of her story And the fact though,

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Speaker 1: is that she's still so down to earth and still

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01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: knows who she is and owns it and doesn't change

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: to a pease match. She doesn't change to appease the

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01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: women or for the TV show. I just really like,

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01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: like what we see is what we got with her

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: today and then some yeah, no, absolutely, Katie is the

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: real deal. And you know, we try to like poke

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Speaker 1: around a bit with Katie about the trailer that we

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01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: saw at the end, the sneak peek for the next episode. Becca.

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Speaker 1: These producers know what they're doing. I mean we say

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01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: it all the time. There's a reason the show is

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01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: still on in twenty twenty one. Next week looks so good.

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Speaker 1: This is what we've been waiting for. We've known that

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: there are more women, we've known that there's an alleged escort.

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Speaker 1: Now we're going to get to meet these I'm so

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01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: excited and how about the one girl, the one girl

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: who's like, well, I guess they say the best to last.

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh God, Victoria versus Harror. That's what I need to see.

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: I just I like, I try to put myself in

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01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: that position, Like if I was one of these remaining

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Speaker 1: girls who have already been here for a few weeks,

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: how would I feel? And obviously we saw it happen

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: last season when Tasia came in and we had a

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: new crop of guys coming out of the limou. That

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: made sense to me because we had a new batch start.

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01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: You had to give her this proper entrance, this proper

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01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: moment if you will, to like really initiate somebody into

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: being the lead. And here I'm like, what the hell

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01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: is happening? Matt's already been the lead for a few weeks, like,

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: and it makes me think like, is this now? Is

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: this going to be the standard from here or out?

1311
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: Is every season going to have this new flock of

1312
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: people come in after a three or four weeks. Now,

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't just a heart to handle it. This is

1314
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: just pandemic thing, right, I would? So I think maybe

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: the fact that they can't travel, they can't you know,

1316
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: like they're really trying to make do with what they

1317
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: can at one resort, which and they're doing an incredible job.

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: I will give I will give the show that, but yeah,

1319
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: there needs to be something to spice it up. But man,

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm if I was one of those remaining girls that

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01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: that's already been there, I would have lost my mind.

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: You would have found me by the meatballs out have

1323
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: been like I'm done, I'm just gonna eat. I'm gonna

1324
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: hang out. Whenever I have to go, I'll go home.

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01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: You know, Like it's just you would have been with

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: Sarah up in the room. You would have been buy

1327
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: yourself up in a room staring out a window. Look,

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01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: it's just just just staring. No, because that's ally with

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: the donkeys. I would have been running the farm with

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: the donkeys or something. What's interesting is we don't know

1331
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot about Matt right And I got a lot

1332
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: of people and I'm sure you did too, who wrote

1333
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: me saying that thank you so much for the podcast

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: that you had last week with Matt, because we feel

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: like we're getting to know a lot more of him

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: because you don't really see it on the show. I mean,

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: you're seeing the personality of the women. We don't really

1338
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: see a lot from Matt, and that's because we haven't

1339
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: him from prior season. So the only thing we can

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: gather for Matt is how we've seen him behave in

1341
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: other episodes and the way he's sent home Maryland, who

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: seems to be his sweetheart, played by the rules, a

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01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: straight lace girl, but keeping a Victoria, who he said

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01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: on our podcast he found so funny when we were

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,560
Speaker 1: like trying to dig for the humor. He found her funny,

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01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: He liked her. It lets me know that with these

1347
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: this new group of women, the one who said, oh

1348
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: he saved the best for last, that's Matt's type. Matt

1349
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: likes a girl who pushes the bounds, you know what

1350
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 1: I mean, who pushed the boundaries well, and don't forget

1351
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: remember last week when we had him on, we asked

1352
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: him who was the best kisser and he mentioned it's

1353
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: one of the girls that as yet to say. I'm saying, y'all,

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01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: we are in for a treat and I'm ready, wait,

1355
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: ready with the popcorn. Rachel come over. We will have popcorn,

1356
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: We'll have some bordone. We'll get a little loose, like

1357
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: next week is going to be one a. I guess

1358
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: it is books you guys, thank you so much for

1359
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: tuning in to this episode, and we are all in

1360
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: for a treat next week and thereafter. We can't like

1361
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: to see what's ahead this season. And while we have

1362
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: no idea what's going to play out, we do know

1363
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: that we are going to bring you the best guest

1364
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: and the best teasers. So you have to keep tuning

1365
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: into Bachelor Happy Hour because that is an exclusive that

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Speaker 1: you can only find on our show. All right, guys,

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: we have grocery store Joe on here to tell us

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Speaker 1: what we can expect to hear on Clickbait this week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks back up, we have a great new episode of

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Speaker 1: Clickbait out right now. We talked to one of Reality

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Speaker 1: TVs ogs, Anissa from MTVS The Challenge, and I loved

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Speaker 1: tearing her take on Reality TV back in the day

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Speaker 1: how she feels about it right now? And then I

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Speaker 1: know you guys are familiar with the game, would you

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: rather well Tasia, Natasha and myself play a Bachelor edition

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Speaker 1: plus Lucky enough, Tatia share some virtual day pointers, including

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Speaker 1: whether it's okay to wear sweats on a date. I

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Speaker 1: personally don't know how I feel about that, but you

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Speaker 1: wherever you're listening to your podcasts right now. Thanks Joe,

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Speaker 1: we cannot wait to check it out. You guys. We

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Speaker 1: got Mike Johnson, Big Mike and my husband Brian Abasolo

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Speaker 1: with their new podcast, and Mike Johnson over here is

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: gonna let you know everything you can expect to hear

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: this week on Talking it Out. Thanks Rachel, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: good care of You'll help you over here. I promise

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Speaker 1: I got you Now. Bachelor Nation, check out the latest

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Speaker 1: episode of Talking Out with Mike and Brian. This week,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to none other Bachelor Matt James, about race,

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01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: his type, and what it was like living in a

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: tiny apartment with Tyler Cameron. Also find out what advice

1393
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: I gave Matt before going on the show that led

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Speaker 1: him to gaining fifteen pounds crazy. Subscribe to Talking it

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