Speaker 1: They are Around the NFL podcast, two co hosts and
Speaker 1: one certified serny mail from the Chris Wesley podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL and I am Dan Hanss and
Speaker 1: I got heroes all up in the studio, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and one more. Everybody, ladies and gentlemen, actually
Speaker 1: know what hit it? Collie Johnnie's the queen queen.
Speaker 2: She is the queen of NFL media.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: Where did that come from?
Speaker 3: Was lovely?
Speaker 1: I did that? Yes? Who did that? Eric? Behind the glass.
Speaker 4: I'd have to get back into Google. The Gmail. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: the Gmail is actually at my desktop, guys, not on.
Speaker 5: For different theme songs for Colleen. We're still Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is from I think a twenty twenty email that
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 2: Well, that's so nice, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I will accept all right, and we will credit whoever it.
Speaker 4: Is by the episode. I'll drop a slack to you
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: Dan, all right, great? Well Connie? How are you okay?
Speaker 2: Great? I haven't seen you guys in a while, so
Speaker 2: this is nice.
Speaker 6: I'm going to Tybee tomorrow morning, brig we have a
Speaker 6: six am flight. Sessler is house sitting for us and
Speaker 6: dog sitting Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 2: So Dan, what are you doing in my life?
Speaker 1: I am wait?
Speaker 5: Is that a true story? Mark? Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They finally have hired a professional to take care of
Speaker 3: their animals.
Speaker 5: Didn't Erica do it once?
Speaker 3: I believe it was our friend Emily who used to
Speaker 3: work here.
Speaker 5: Emily, It's okay.
Speaker 1: I will be spending time with my family, but I
Speaker 1: will be happy to help out Mark if any issues arise.
Speaker 1: I know there's two dogs. That's a lot of that's
Speaker 1: a lot of You're a dog owner, so I certainly am.
Speaker 1: But I'll be busy with that dog too, and on
Speaker 1: the priority list. Then your two.
Speaker 2: Dogs, Dasher might murder captains.
Speaker 1: He might. Okay, how is everybody doing? From the Office
Speaker 1: of Corrections and Omissions for around the NFL? Apparently some whoppers?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: In terms of misfires.
Speaker 3: And we own these.
Speaker 1: This is that's a great way to put it. Let's
Speaker 1: start with uh the category of pronunciation. Uh the term
Speaker 1: for excessive hair growth greg on unexpected areas of the body,
Speaker 1: such as the face, chest, and back. Not here stute
Speaker 1: it is your suit.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just tripped over that one again and again.
Speaker 5: I don't know why I wrote it down, and I
Speaker 5: hope you haven't been trying to use the word her
Speaker 5: suit to impress your friends or her stute, because that
Speaker 5: would be wearing her suit.
Speaker 1: That's only you were here on Monday, Colleen.
Speaker 2: I was listening.
Speaker 1: Oh you clocked it immediately.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Dan told me to listen to the last episode.
Speaker 6: I thought it was a test, so I did it.
Speaker 5: To be ready for this one. Yes, to not double
Speaker 5: up and whatnot correct, So I did my homework.
Speaker 1: I'm a professional, she sure is, folks. And then we
Speaker 1: have in the department of mathematics, which I'm not taking
Speaker 1: any l on this one because everyone knows where I
Speaker 1: stand in this category. I'm leaning on the other guys.
Speaker 1: Six point five billion was in this room said to
Speaker 1: be that extra point five was three hundred thousand wells,
Speaker 1: the actual mark six point five billion is actually six
Speaker 1: billion plus.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not. I stopped doing the equate the
Speaker 3: work on this. I'm taking the matvell. I did a
Speaker 3: Google search and probably plugged in the wrong numbers, which
Speaker 3: is I know, Dan's like the I'm not good at
Speaker 3: math guy, but like I belong to that club to
Speaker 3: some degree too. That's been a historical uh, problem for myself.
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone was expecting you guys to get
Speaker 6: the math right.
Speaker 1: All right, so we still don't know. Then.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's this show needs I think
Speaker 3: you're delivering those that problems.
Speaker 5: I think the world can move on. The billionaires that
Speaker 5: are buying this great organization soon to be great.
Speaker 1: It's fifty million, like they've got a lot of fifty million.
Speaker 1: That sounds more six fifty million dollars. So uh And
Speaker 1: even to my point that I was making on the
Speaker 1: Monday program, what are we doing? Why we adding the
Speaker 1: point zh five because it was fifty million dollars extra
Speaker 1: on the purchase price. That adds up. It's fair that
Speaker 1: ain't pennies in the old give a penny, take a
Speaker 1: penny till.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a rounding error. Though, when you're buying
Speaker 5: a six billion dollar team, that's insane.
Speaker 1: That's true. Wow, that's true. Mark, How are you waving
Speaker 1: that card in front of your face? You got the vapors.
Speaker 3: I feel horrible that you should have worn the jean jacket.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that would have saved what's happening here,
Speaker 3: but I am here to do my best and I will.
Speaker 3: That's also what we are about. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I proceed gingerly because I know I don't want to
Speaker 1: get on your fashion choices. You're wearing kind of a
Speaker 1: winter coat right now, or at least a it's very late.
Speaker 3: No, it's very late. It's very it's a light coat.
Speaker 6: I just want to say that I had been scrolling
Speaker 6: through Instagram after the Monday Show and I stopped dead
Speaker 6: in my tracks when I saw your jacket because I
Speaker 6: liked it that much.
Speaker 2: So I was aligned.
Speaker 6: And when I listened to the show, I was like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, they liked it too, so's choice.
Speaker 5: Now Mark's looking totally refreshed, like he just came out
Speaker 5: of a shower. A woman says something nice to him,
Speaker 5: and he's good.
Speaker 1: Right, he has perked up, all right. And before we
Speaker 1: get into part two of the Glossary, which Colleen is
Speaker 1: one prepared for, I am on a almost an absurd level,
Speaker 1: some say two prepared.
Speaker 2: I've been preparing for days.
Speaker 1: I want to check in with one other topic from
Speaker 1: the Monday app. Wow, my new favorite guy Mike North. Okay,
Speaker 1: Peter North of scheduling. Love this guy. Love everything about him, and.
Speaker 5: You could have put this as the end. I suppose
Speaker 5: that's Connie's letter though, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that here, let me put
Speaker 1: it this way before I get into it, because I
Speaker 1: know there are If you're looking for an NFL podcast
Speaker 1: that will tell you why the swing tackle of the
Speaker 1: Bengals is an issue because he's opening up his hips
Speaker 1: too quickly in third down passing situations. If you were
Speaker 1: looking for a braggy podcast where someone's clocking that cool,
Speaker 1: go find it. But I dare you to find another
Speaker 1: NFL podcast that is more on top of profound bulls
Speaker 1: like this. We're all over stuff like this, like North
Speaker 1: coming out strong and talking about the Bengals raising their
Speaker 1: hand and saying they wanted to be on Black Friday,
Speaker 1: not this year, but every year. Clearly that ruffled some feathers.
Speaker 1: And then North went out and did more media.
Speaker 2: No he didn't, and he's the best.
Speaker 1: He was on the Adam Schefter podcast. And then just
Speaker 1: listen to the wording here for Mike. The Jets, once
Speaker 1: they found out they were the host team then started
Speaker 1: to think about, Hey, is this something we could make
Speaker 1: a permanent fixture as part of the NFL schedule. Maybe
Speaker 1: they didn't raise their hands in February, but now that
Speaker 1: they've been selected as the Black Friday host, I think
Speaker 1: they might be interested in it too. Love this guy.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of floating things out there for us
Speaker 1: during the slow part of the year to aggregate. And
Speaker 1: I got to say, North to the.
Speaker 2: Moon, he's our north Star.
Speaker 5: Bang now you were on.
Speaker 3: Now you got on the Bengals for being a little
Speaker 3: bit too volunteerish, I would say, right now, the Jets
Speaker 3: have done apparently done the same thing.
Speaker 1: Are you do you but listen to the listen to
Speaker 1: the wording here. The Jets, once they found out they
Speaker 1: were the host team, then started to think about and
Speaker 1: then he added, maybe they didn't raise their hands in February,
Speaker 1: but now that they've been selected, they might be interested
Speaker 1: in it too. There's not even any proof that, according
Speaker 1: to what Mike Noran said, that they even did that.
Speaker 3: If you if you look at the word and you're right,
Speaker 3: he sort of danced around, know something.
Speaker 5: Are you at all concerned that Mike North, who has
Speaker 5: been with the company for twenty five years, is going
Speaker 5: to get called into the principal's office and maybe told like, hey,
Speaker 5: maybe ixnay on the idiom. May you know, little less North,
Speaker 5: a little less North, a little more. Just let the
Speaker 5: schedule speak for itself.
Speaker 1: That would be a mistake.
Speaker 5: That would be a mistake, cause I'm saying he's adding
Speaker 5: a lot of pop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if if nothing else, this is a
Speaker 1: very boring time of year. And anyone that wants to
Speaker 1: bring some sizzle, you know, bring out a faida plate sizzling.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets excited when the Falda plate pops through the doors.
Speaker 1: That's what Mike North is doing right now. So dream on,
Speaker 1: Mike North, make that content, all right?
Speaker 5: Anything else did I tell you? I I sat talking
Speaker 5: groups today Mike North? You know back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh you yes, you shared an office.
Speaker 3: That anecdote was.
Speaker 1: It's a well worn anecdote. It's a good one. Though.
Speaker 1: Did you ever go out to lunch with it?
Speaker 5: No? I don't think I went out to lunch with
Speaker 5: the single member of the New York office there. I
Speaker 5: mean they didn't. They weren't taking lunch as they weren't
Speaker 5: asking me to go to lunch occasionally.
Speaker 1: Said you were there for like over a year, right, Well, I.
Speaker 5: Would you go out and get like a hot I
Speaker 5: would only get once or once or twice a week
Speaker 5: in the in the office. In one of those days
Speaker 5: was Sunday when basically no one was there. Uh but
Speaker 5: everyone just went down and they got said they went
Speaker 5: down and got street food because as good as the
Speaker 5: hudder was the street food banging and right there, I
Speaker 5: just get the streetmissary. Both you go back, you see
Speaker 5: someone you know maybe down at the street food. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you sit there. But it's a.
Speaker 1: Truth truth. All right, let's get into it. Okay, is
Speaker 1: everyone ready? Colleen? Your nails are outrageous. Way give people tap.
Speaker 1: I think that's the whole industry of audio files for you.
Speaker 1: It's wild. All right, get us going. We're picking up
Speaker 1: with the letter.
Speaker 3: Sound effect right there.
Speaker 1: And okay, So for n I went, but we already
Speaker 1: did that on Monday.
Speaker 2: You did not, I know, I mean just as proof.
Speaker 1: I took notes B for Boying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, how do I scon that's correct?
Speaker 1: Great b O I n G.
Speaker 6: Okay, So Nader as in where the Bears have been,
Speaker 6: but it doesn't quite feel that they are at their
Speaker 6: lowest or had been at their lowest, because I think
Speaker 6: there's so much optimism around all of the moves that
Speaker 6: they've made. So I think the clouds are lifting this
Speaker 6: off season, and I feel excited about the Bears, which
Speaker 6: is kind of strange. I think that it's going to
Speaker 6: be by the time training camp rolls around, maybe I
Speaker 6: will be sick of this talking about them, but especially
Speaker 6: with Rogers out of the division. I really love the
Speaker 6: way that this Bears team is intriguing me right now.
Speaker 6: Like of course, the coaching staff kind of struggled to
Speaker 6: find an identity out of the gate last year, and
Speaker 6: they didn't have any pass catchers for justin fields. But
Speaker 6: I love them bringing in DJ Moore, they finally have
Speaker 6: a number one guy for justin fields. They fixed or
Speaker 6: at least they addressed the offensive line, drafting Darnell right
Speaker 6: have a new face at right guard to and then
Speaker 6: the defense bring in the Eds. Happy about that, TJ
Speaker 6: Edwards and Tremaine Edmonds. I mean, I just think you're
Speaker 6: making that you guys have EDGs in your famis in their.
Speaker 1: Good and bring a little heat himself, little sizzle, that's
Speaker 1: very true. Oh absolutely, Let's fly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's one of the youngest rosters in the league,
Speaker 2: so that I.
Speaker 1: Finally found a show that you should listen to.
Speaker 2: You know what, the Bears are you the Deer and
Speaker 2: is for Deer.
Speaker 3: I am a little concerned because it was about a
Speaker 3: year ago at this time that I recall you deeply
Speaker 3: hyping up the Indianapolis Cups apocalyptic. But I I think
Speaker 3: the thing you have that you're completely right about is
Speaker 3: the Bears on offense were vastly entertaining a year ago.
Speaker 3: Minus all these parts, they already were doing it because
Speaker 3: of the quarterbacks. So it's like I I the only
Speaker 3: thing that stands out to me is like there, if
Speaker 3: they really thrive, probably their offensive coordinator gets yanked out
Speaker 3: for a head coaching job and you're stuck with one
Speaker 3: of these defensive minded coaches and Mattiebraflus, who's the most
Speaker 3: To me, I just don't understand who is this pot
Speaker 3: I'm waiting. It's kind of how I felt about like
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor a couple of years ago until you learn
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know if he's the guy to
Speaker 3: do it, but like, uh, why not? The Bears are
Speaker 3: far more interesting than they've ever been. During the run
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 5: Iber Flus was absolutely the coach one of the coaches
Speaker 5: that Travis Kelsey when he went through and was like,
Speaker 5: who's that. That guy's in the NFL that the coaches
Speaker 5: are my biggest concern. You mentioned you know, maybe their
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator gets plucked. That would be a great problem.
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm getting in Luke Getzy. He
Speaker 5: was a first time play caller. Last year. They weren't
Speaker 5: They weren't great. They didn't have a lot of talent,
Speaker 5: but they weren't great defense. They were terrible. And I
Speaker 5: think you're right, they've hit them the deer. I think
Speaker 5: there's a reason to be excited better of I love
Speaker 5: that Chase Claypool instead of trying to be a savior,
Speaker 5: is like a three, and I kind of like Tyler
Speaker 5: Scott their fourth round pick gotta getting in the mix
Speaker 5: is a nice four. And you have Cole Kmet So
Speaker 5: now you know, maybe Chase Claypool is your three or
Speaker 5: your four behind DJ Mood, behind Mooney. The offensive line
Speaker 5: is definitely better. It's more of the defense that I'm
Speaker 5: concerned about. Upfront, they're not great and ibra Flus didn't
Speaker 5: show anything. I'd like to see a little bit of
Speaker 5: schematic advantage if you're a defensive coach and they were
Speaker 5: the worst defensive league, and Bears fans will say, oh,
Speaker 5: they had no talents like some other teams had no
Speaker 5: talent too, and they were closer to okay, So I
Speaker 5: like them, But I think two things can be true.
Speaker 5: They're getting better, they're more exciting, and I don't like
Speaker 5: the fact that they have the same over underwin total
Speaker 5: as the Packers and only one less than the Vikings.
Speaker 5: I don't see those three as close. You got to
Speaker 5: show it to me a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think they are. And I'm with you cause I've
Speaker 1: talked about this and I talked about it with Adam Rank,
Speaker 1: a huge Bears fan, on his Bears podcast, that they
Speaker 1: do check all the boxes for a team that's going
Speaker 1: to make a big jump and potentially contend in that division,
Speaker 1: which is much as everyone's gassing up the Lions. Would
Speaker 1: shock you. If that's a very tight division December with
Speaker 1: no team running away with it, it would not shock
Speaker 1: me at all. If that said, are they maybe the
Speaker 1: fools gold pick for the team where everyone says they're
Speaker 1: going to be better because you do need the defense
Speaker 1: to figure out something and be more competitive, and then
Speaker 1: you are putting a lot on Justin Fields, a quarterback
Speaker 1: who's dynamic and exciting but has had some issues with
Speaker 1: injuries himself and as a passer. There's still room for growth.
Speaker 1: I love that they have added weapons. I love that
Speaker 1: Fields will enter a season healthier with a better offensive line.
Speaker 1: But there are there is a way, and you don't
Speaker 1: have to squint that this doesn't work out, And coaching
Speaker 1: is part of it too. There's a concern there.
Speaker 6: I need Eberflus to have some type of like spicy
Speaker 6: fun fact that drops this summer during training camp.
Speaker 3: We need that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just need.
Speaker 6: I need a little more personality out of him, and
Speaker 6: then maybe I'll.
Speaker 2: Be more of a believer.
Speaker 3: Some texture, spicy, if you're spicy, spicy, stay spicy.
Speaker 5: For the most part, they call him Flus his friends
Speaker 5: pretty good. That's okay. My thing is like, if they
Speaker 5: get to seven wins, that's more than doubling their win total.
Speaker 5: That'd be to me a big It's going from three
Speaker 5: to seven. That'd be a big jump. But you still
Speaker 5: be on the under and you still you know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is going to be my adults.
Speaker 1: Don't let it in.
Speaker 2: Don't let it came from the cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's concerns here.
Speaker 1: Conye, don't let doubt creep in.
Speaker 5: He hit the definitely hit they hit them the deer,
Speaker 5: though you can't say they didn't.
Speaker 1: And I do love they open the season at home
Speaker 1: against a Packers team in transition. Big Week one is
Speaker 1: big for everybody for the Bears. If they can get
Speaker 1: out a Week one with a big performance and everyone's
Speaker 1: fields lights it up and DJ Moore has one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty yards receiving, man, they could set you out
Speaker 1: a trajectory.
Speaker 5: They did beat the forty nine ers. You look at
Speaker 5: a Week one, you know, we have a pianol of.
Speaker 3: Glass here and there's there's a like a school group
Speaker 3: watching us, and I feel like I'm about to faint.
Speaker 3: So I hope that happens in front of a school group.
Speaker 1: Is it Chrissie Stapleton? Is it Inglewood High School?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They're they're they're here in the building and they just
Speaker 1: want to take a look at you, Mark specifically.
Speaker 3: On field trip.
Speaker 2: This is why Marcus sweating.
Speaker 1: This would be a bad episode to faint if like
Speaker 1: fourteenth school children saw you, Why is that change their lives?
Speaker 5: Why is that man in the parka so much.
Speaker 3: I'm having a weird day.
Speaker 1: Oh is for overkill? Actually, you know, let me do
Speaker 1: this overkill?
Speaker 2: M okay?
Speaker 1: This according to Awful Announcing. I like that site. I
Speaker 1: read that site a fair bit.
Speaker 5: Old school blog.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Back in the day, Jim Nance, here's the
Speaker 1: headline says he and Tony Romo could call nine Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs games this season. Here's the quote from Nance.
Speaker 1: This is what it used to be like packing the
Speaker 1: Brady Belichick days. Phil and I would do eight or
Speaker 1: nine Patriots games a year. I want to say to
Speaker 1: that is that the right way to use your number
Speaker 1: one team. Is there a case to be made that
Speaker 1: you don't essentially make the Chiefs and whoever they're playing
Speaker 1: the focus of your your top one team, not just
Speaker 1: your top announcers, but also your top production team and
Speaker 1: all that. Is there a better case to be made
Speaker 1: for spreading it out, Connie and give them. Of course,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cover plenty of Chiefs, but you want to
Speaker 1: spread out your number one team across the landscape. If
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are as good as we always expected to
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, cover all the Chiefs you want
Speaker 1: during the AFC that side of the postseason. But let's
Speaker 1: we don't need to do it the way we've always
Speaker 1: done it, changing things up. The Wizard is still.
Speaker 6: The Chiefs are the best team. Don't you want your
Speaker 6: best team on it?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 1: Though, because there's so many exciting players and teams across
Speaker 1: the landscape. I guess how many times Mark do we
Speaker 1: need to hear Tony Romo talk about how Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is a wizard.
Speaker 3: We radar for you, absolutely, because I think it's been
Speaker 3: seasons in a row where I feel like Tony Romo,
Speaker 3: who's maybe literally overly critiqued in general at this point,
Speaker 3: like let's find a little bit better like things to
Speaker 3: do with our time. But like he runs out of
Speaker 3: stuff to say about Patrick Mahomes, like we all do,
Speaker 3: and it's like I don't need them to do nine
Speaker 3: Chiefs games. I think also for them, it's not a
Speaker 3: great exercise to do the same team over and over.
Speaker 3: I I just feel slight exhaustion when it's the same
Speaker 3: subject matter.
Speaker 1: We wonder why and again Tony Romo seems bored these
Speaker 1: days because he's doing the same thing. It's ground dog
Speaker 1: day in that booth.
Speaker 5: I mean, I hear you. But if you're picking different
Speaker 5: games just so that your guy making thirty million dollars
Speaker 5: a year doesn't get bored, that's too much. He's not
Speaker 5: making three. It's like, how about just be a pro?
Speaker 1: How about us? Though? As the as the fans, don't
Speaker 1: you want to hear? You have other guys in the
Speaker 1: booth that maybe you'd like to hear what their thoughts
Speaker 1: are about what.
Speaker 6: Sure, but nobody's going to be more prepared to talk
Speaker 6: about the Chiefs than the guys who are only covering
Speaker 6: the Chiefs pretty much.
Speaker 5: I agree too. And when you're when you're when you're
Speaker 5: a patriot, when they when it was Sims and Nance
Speaker 5: for all those games, there's an absolute fatigue for the fan.
Speaker 5: It's like I heard Phil Simms's, Bill Belichick's stories so
Speaker 5: many times that after a certain point, you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you run you run out of content.
Speaker 3: Right in the course of one season where they're doing
Speaker 3: nine games, there's gonna be a week where they do
Speaker 3: that back to back at something.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times did you hear Romo last season?
Speaker 1: Got like, Jim, I can't believe it. Mahomes about of
Speaker 1: things to say. Well, then find someone who has something
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 5: Right when it's when it's the Bills, when it's Bengals.
Speaker 1: Late in the editor's note, he never said that.
Speaker 5: I do love that they set those the Bills in
Speaker 5: Bengals games up in December for the Chiefs because to me,
Speaker 5: that is getting back to what Jim Nance is talking about,
Speaker 5: whether it was Patriots, Colts, whether it was forty nine
Speaker 5: Ers Cowboys in the day. To me, Bill's Bengals Chiefs.
Speaker 5: That's that right now, and I want Nance and Rome
Speaker 5: on those. But what you're absolutely when it's earlier in
Speaker 5: the season, it's like at Vikings, they're set up for
Speaker 5: a one to twenty five. Yeah, yeah, like Chargers. Let's
Speaker 5: give that to Anvil Network or something.
Speaker 2: Chargers is always pretty good though, that's true.
Speaker 5: That's that's often the pot time.
Speaker 1: Pee Greg all right, uh.
Speaker 5: P is for the panic pivot, and that's what I
Speaker 5: won't have to do today. So the panic pivot, if
Speaker 5: you're a fan of the glassery going back, it's like,
Speaker 5: we don't necessarily plan.
Speaker 1: What we made like seventeen hours ago.
Speaker 5: I'm just making pivot. It's what happens, you know, if
Speaker 5: someone took your topic already you got to do a
Speaker 5: panic pivot. Panic piv, You're got to come up with
Speaker 5: a whole new way to spin that word. I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna have to do the panic pivot because I'm taking
Speaker 5: the Raiders who have been in the news. I wanted
Speaker 5: to revisit the Raiders. To me, this was a hot top,
Speaker 5: so it's a regular old pivot. I'm just I'm letting
Speaker 5: the audience know what a panic pivot is.
Speaker 1: Power pivot.
Speaker 5: That's part of the glassery.
Speaker 3: Somebody is getting someone's just been put into.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I was looking for.
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted so power pivot into a panic
Speaker 1: pivot for Sessler.
Speaker 6: I thought that Elle already covered the Raiders. Though, if
Speaker 6: I remember quickly from our last episode was an l I.
Speaker 3: Think there's a reason to be on the Raiders peace
Speaker 3: and I know where you're going with this, and this
Speaker 3: adds some context to where we were with the writers
Speaker 3: more news.
Speaker 5: This happened since we talked. I also wanted to revisit
Speaker 5: them because uh, Mark put them in a body bag
Speaker 5: and like threw them into a river and just might
Speaker 5: not have any Raiders fans left that point, got onto.
Speaker 3: Good Morning Football. I was told this morning, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: How about you get Good Morning Football. They use the
Speaker 1: content from the show.
Speaker 5: That's apparently, but you know what, Mark deserves a little
Speaker 5: credit because I'm guessing you asked for that social clip
Speaker 5: and then they see the social clip or the social
Speaker 5: team put together the social clip, and then they see
Speaker 5: that and then they put it on good warning.
Speaker 2: It works autopsy full.
Speaker 1: So they used the clip from our show on their program.
Speaker 3: That's what I was told. I didn't I didn't witness
Speaker 3: it with my eyes, but someone in the newsroom inform
Speaker 3: you of that when I walked.
Speaker 5: There's no reason to doubt. Don't doubt Jeremy Bergman or
Speaker 5: whoever it was.
Speaker 1: You know what it makes me feel. I want Mary
Speaker 1: like that clip. Bring Mark on the show, all the guys.
Speaker 3: That's very early in the morning. Totally fine with how
Speaker 3: they handled it.
Speaker 1: Season.
Speaker 5: So we're revisiting the Raiders because of this DeVante Adams
Speaker 5: story and another one that I'm gonna throw it, but
Speaker 5: Devanta Adams had some very interesting quotes to the Ringer
Speaker 5: was a really good article. It's by Marine Fader. I
Speaker 5: believe it was her name. She wrote this great book
Speaker 5: on Yannis too. She's she's one of the best sports
Speaker 5: writers out there. So check out the whole article because
Speaker 5: I think it deserves to be read in context. But
Speaker 5: the part that got people's attention was him saying him
Speaker 5: in the front office aren't seeing eye to eye right now,
Speaker 5: that they kind of talk to him about what they
Speaker 5: were gonna do with this offseason and they think the
Speaker 5: route they're going is the best bet to be urgent,
Speaker 5: but he doesn't quite agree with that. He said, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna have to buy into this and try to be
Speaker 5: as optimistic as possible. It's not what I expected to happen,
Speaker 5: but it's something that's the reality. And I'm like, what
Speaker 5: is he talking about exactly. I guess bringing in Jimmy
Speaker 5: G that's part of it, because he's kind of a
Speaker 5: deep threat, and Jimmy G's a very short thrower, a
Speaker 5: dink and dunk kind of thrower. And Adams does later
Speaker 5: say it depends on the style of ball we play.
Speaker 5: If we play a certain brand of ball, I can
Speaker 5: get Garoppolo to conform to whatever. I like that, but
Speaker 5: if we use him a certain type of way, and
Speaker 5: I'm reading into this the way that they're gonna use
Speaker 5: him then it's gonna make us tough to maximize who
Speaker 5: he should be this year compelling.
Speaker 3: So I went and looked at, like, around these quotes,
Speaker 3: what else was happening. And he went out of his
Speaker 3: way to sort of say he doesn't know Jimmy g
Speaker 3: and everyone that's come out of the woodwork to tell
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams he's a great leader. You're gonna love him.
Speaker 3: And so it wasn't like there wasn't animosity. No, these
Speaker 3: are really strong quotes, I thought, and like, the first
Speaker 3: thing that came to mind, and the reason that I
Speaker 3: was gonna use it for my upcoming letter, was that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to panic pivot.
Speaker 3: Oh he is I already told you yesterday, like I have,
Speaker 3: I have contingency plans because I knew this would happen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah. But I will say I think
Speaker 3: that I could just see a world under the Josh
Speaker 3: McDaniels system. This is my issue with the raiderstle. I
Speaker 3: think Josh McDaniels is a bit of a tough guy
Speaker 3: to get along with for certain players. I I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised if DeVante Adams is somewhere else by the
Speaker 3: end of the season. I just think if it gets
Speaker 3: if it just grows more and more cantankerous. It's like,
Speaker 3: what's the long term plan with DeVante Adams?
Speaker 1: I had this as one of mine too, so I
Speaker 1: under totally under control. Pivot coming up later, it's.
Speaker 5: A panic pretend this it was for.
Speaker 1: W So I'm totally under control. I got so much time.
Speaker 1: I think there are three pound the table Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame wide receivers active right now. Uh tyreek Uh. Justin
Speaker 1: Jefferson is obviously a little more of a projection, but
Speaker 1: you know he's special and we know it. And Davante
Speaker 1: and I I'm with you. I feel like right now
Speaker 1: he made that other point. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: said it that he was like, this isn't that whole
Speaker 1: thing where it's like I came here to be cute
Speaker 1: with Derek, Like, yes, that was the narrative, the dominant
Speaker 1: storyline going in to last year, or how all these
Speaker 1: college best friends are now playing together, Like he came
Speaker 1: there to be on a contender and win a Super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also show that he could do it without Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He did it. He showed he could do it without
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But he's not on a team that's close
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, So yeah, it would it be
Speaker 1: shocking if he was on the move. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think she would be shocking at all. He is a
Speaker 1: fascinating chip to dangle the trade deadline for a team
Speaker 1: that wants to get over the hump, especially maybe a
Speaker 1: team where their quarterback has a lot of familiarity with
Speaker 1: the wide receiver and maybe they have a little bit
Speaker 1: of a hole in their wide receiver room. You guys
Speaker 1: could put that together. I don't know who that might be,
Speaker 1: but it's something to watch. I agree.
Speaker 6: I was kind of fascinated by the fact that he
Speaker 6: said that this was the first year meeting last year
Speaker 6: that he would have cared if he didn't get that
Speaker 6: all pro nod, because his whole goal was to just
Speaker 6: show everyone and like he was the guy and that
Speaker 6: he had been overshadowed by Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay
Speaker 6: all these years.
Speaker 5: And he's a His friend that was quoted in the
Speaker 5: article was saying like he's getting used to be in
Speaker 5: the face of the franchise, which is a little different,
Speaker 5: and that's probably true. Right now, he is their leader,
Speaker 5: he is their best player. He's also like incredibly intelligent
Speaker 5: and is good in front of a microphone, and everyone
Speaker 5: respects him. But the part that I guess maybe you
Speaker 5: have to give McDaniel some credit that he said that
Speaker 5: they kind of involved him in these moves that they made.
Speaker 5: They talk to him at least, and they don't see
Speaker 5: eye to eye, but it was like it sounded like
Speaker 5: what we want, which is mature adults actually talking about
Speaker 5: the direction of the franchise and there's some disagreement, and
Speaker 5: he's saying it in a respectful way here publicly, so
Speaker 5: I don't think there's any screaming like headline or anything.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's getting aggregated in a somewhat disrespectful way to
Speaker 1: what he was actually saying. But that's part of it.
Speaker 5: But part of it was there's this other thing out there,
Speaker 5: and our coworker David Carr retweeted it yesterday, and I
Speaker 5: have to admit I was not familiar with the source
Speaker 5: that he retweeted. It's a man named Hondo Carpenter who
Speaker 5: works for SI dot com and it's like a fan site,
Speaker 5: but he is there asking questions and is part of
Speaker 5: the media. Hondo Carpenter, and he says that he thinks
Speaker 5: Hunter Renfro's not gonna be on this team. That he
Speaker 5: thinks that something could happen post June first. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 5: why would happen post June first, Like they could just
Speaker 5: predate it if they wanted to cut, but that would
Speaker 5: be a trade post June first. And this guy who
Speaker 5: has been around the team and says, this is what
Speaker 5: he's hearing, And our friend Derek David Carr is wondering, Hm,
Speaker 5: maybe we can get old Hunter over to New Orleans.
Speaker 5: That's why he was tweeting about it. But I see
Speaker 5: it's just something to watch because Hunter Renfro would have
Speaker 5: trade value. And then if like Davante knows a little
Speaker 5: bit about that, maybe that informs it.
Speaker 3: It's all just interesting, little thorny.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then move on. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back Mark Sessler. The panic pivot is on the
Speaker 1: letter Q toffy toffy on a pivot all right, Uh, I.
Speaker 3: Have a little something on the pitch steal. So Q
Speaker 3: is for quiz me this. Why are we sleeping on
Speaker 3: the Steelers? Why are we acting as if the Steelers
Speaker 3: are nothing more than a side piece in the AFC,
Speaker 3: A plant being destined to produce only dark fruit. When
Speaker 3: the Steelers will win eleven or twelve games and ship
Speaker 3: all memories of big Ben deep into the world of yesterday,
Speaker 3: there is no more big Ben. Big Ben is days
Speaker 3: gone by horse and Buggy. Big Ben is a texture
Speaker 3: mill in central Oklahoma. Big Ben is a parabolic mic
Speaker 3: along the interstate. The Steelers will win a playoff game
Speaker 3: at the very least in middle December. Mike Tomlin will
Speaker 3: march into a dive bar in Moon Township and buy
Speaker 3: the entire house a cocktail of their choice. They will
Speaker 3: laud him as a king. Twenty five cartons of Chinese
Speaker 3: food will be brought in General Sal's Chicken, various chow mains,
Speaker 3: platters of white rice, and then the tavern will quiet
Speaker 3: as a young child named Wedgley stands atop the bar
Speaker 3: and reads from a fortune cookie. Lucky numbers seven, twenty one,
Speaker 3: thirty six, forty nine, fifty five Fortune animals will be
Speaker 3: able to speak telepathically with their owners by twenty forty nine.
Speaker 3: My Fortune Steelers twelve and five AFC title game, Oh
Speaker 3: Seacrest out.
Speaker 5: Put that on DMFB that was not your The whole thing.
Speaker 5: The Fortune Pies all of it. Kyle, let's put put
Speaker 5: that out on the show. Actually, mark On, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say early in the show, as early as possible.
Speaker 1: He'll be awake, He'll be away that you're perfect for
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football.
Speaker 6: I say, I feel strongly that the Steelers are being
Speaker 6: massively overlooked.
Speaker 3: You want to go telecast nine Chiefs games? I think
Speaker 3: the Steelers when they have an off here, Mike Tomlin
Speaker 3: wins nine games.
Speaker 1: Right. I guess my my only thing was, like I
Speaker 1: would not want to watch a ton of Steelers games
Speaker 1: in the in the number one slot on CBS. I
Speaker 1: don't find them. They're good sighting, you know. I also
Speaker 1: don't I don't see it in this conference like a
Speaker 1: path to twelve wins. But is Kenny Pickett a star.
Speaker 3: In this equation? I think that we get year two
Speaker 3: of Kenny Pickett. Who I mean, I thought down the
Speaker 3: stretch because he's.
Speaker 1: Got to be kind of like close to a young
Speaker 1: star caliber.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think I think he is the perfect fit
Speaker 3: for Pittsburgh. He might not be somewhere else, but there's
Speaker 3: something about the whole thing. And I thought he was
Speaker 3: just super clutch late in games when it mattered improved
Speaker 3: in November and December, and we saw improvement and it's
Speaker 3: like he made Mitch Trubisky a complete memory.
Speaker 6: Thinking about that Christmas Eve game against the Raiders where
Speaker 6: Kenny Pickett through I think it was Pickett to Pickens
Speaker 6: and you were there, Yeah, and that game was so
Speaker 6: exciting and the Steeler, like the Raiders lost that game
Speaker 6: twenty seven different ways. But then Kenny Pickett had some
Speaker 6: juice with the offense and Najie Harris and I kind
Speaker 6: of like what they have going on there. They're not
Speaker 6: the most exciting team on paper, but they could be.
Speaker 1: I like their draft. They've addressed the offensive line. We
Speaker 1: talked about that after the draft. That get back to
Speaker 1: being the Steelers and see if naj Harris is really
Speaker 1: worth what you invested in him in terms of as
Speaker 1: a producer.
Speaker 5: What do you think, Greggy, I love what Mark's selling here.
Speaker 5: To me. I don't know if they're going to win
Speaker 5: eleven or twelve. The trick is I like all these
Speaker 5: AFC North teams on paper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do you at twelve wins? If they rate
Speaker 1: it can't work out the way.
Speaker 5: But the over under I think might feel the strongest
Speaker 5: one in the entire division would be them over eight
Speaker 5: and a half. Like I, I agree that that is
Speaker 5: under selling where they are in their development, that they
Speaker 5: should be looked at. And I think I'll be putting
Speaker 5: them in the playoffs as well. So I'm in it.
Speaker 1: Won nine last year eight and a half. You said
Speaker 1: loving eight and a half, I would bang the over
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I think nine or ten feels right.
Speaker 3: Twelve was a little rich. But this is the game
Speaker 3: you play. You have to say this now and so
Speaker 3: when it doesn't happens, but when it does, so let's
Speaker 3: make them remember.
Speaker 1: Just a quick look at the before we move on.
Speaker 1: So you got Cincinnati coming off they're at eleven and
Speaker 1: a half, a twelve win season. Uh, they're still going
Speaker 1: to be great. The Ravens got Lamar and added to
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room nine and a half. We like
Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Browns. We just talked about the Browns
Speaker 1: as a team that if Deshaun Watson bounces back at all.
Speaker 5: They're nine and a half too. So they're at the
Speaker 5: same level over under as the But this Craven.
Speaker 3: This can't happen. See where like that we have everyone
Speaker 3: in the I predict that like two of these four
Speaker 3: teams were talking are gonna flat line due to chaos
Speaker 3: that we don't see how it.
Speaker 5: Can come close though, because we mentioned it on the
Speaker 5: schedule release show. They play the AFC South at a
Speaker 5: division in the NFC West, which you know has got
Speaker 5: a couple of good teams, but the Rams and the
Speaker 5: Cardinals might not be so great.
Speaker 1: This is going to play out very well for yet
Speaker 1: another one seed for the Chiefs because while they get
Speaker 1: to beat up on the Raiders and the Broncos and
Speaker 1: torture the Chargers, I feel like the AFC East is
Speaker 1: just so competitive they're going to cannibalize themselves a little bit.
Speaker 1: Same thing with the AFC North, where I think ten
Speaker 1: eleven wins probably takes that division. The South I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to take seriously as a real entity in terms
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I think that will depress the win
Speaker 1: totals of the teams, because I do think you're right,
Speaker 1: there's always a chance one or two of these teams tank,
Speaker 1: But right now they all look pretty competitive with quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Well, they had a nine to ten and twelve win
Speaker 3: team a year ago, so it's you know, business as usual.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, quiz me this because you could just slide it.
Speaker 1: You slid out.
Speaker 3: Like the way there. I actually had that entry in
Speaker 3: three different letters, like I just wherever it wherever it.
Speaker 1: That is smart smart.
Speaker 6: I got very distracted reading about the Steelers new secret
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator assistant Glenn Thomas.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's something that you guys need to put
Speaker 2: on your radar.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's I remember when Matt Canada, who's there U
Speaker 5: in peril though, see that no one likes, was once
Speaker 5: kind of the secret offensive assistant that was helping the
Speaker 5: former offensive coordinatoruntil they got rid of him and lifted
Speaker 5: up Canada.
Speaker 1: You have some Canada anti Canada takes too, don't you.
Speaker 3: I did in the middle of last season, but I
Speaker 3: warmed up to him.
Speaker 5: A not a big Canada guy all right.
Speaker 1: Up next are Connie are Rich.
Speaker 6: That's where I'm going here, as in I'm waiting to
Speaker 6: see when Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert get that quarterback money.
Speaker 6: They both have these two years left on their but
Speaker 6: now the Lamar and Jalen Hurts signed theirs, there's some
Speaker 6: more comps to work with for the front offices.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow says that he's pretty clear.
Speaker 6: On what he wants in the negotiations that are going
Speaker 6: on right now.
Speaker 2: The Justin Herbert talks are pretty quiet, but.
Speaker 6: I'm really interested to see how what the years are
Speaker 6: on both of these deals. Because Jalen and Lamar both
Speaker 6: signed five year deals. I think that these both of
Speaker 6: these the Bengals and the Chargers, both of these franchises
Speaker 6: are owned by families that I think that they're going
Speaker 6: to want to push the years hard on these deals.
Speaker 6: So I'm interested to see where did the year's land
Speaker 6: and where the money lands for both of these.
Speaker 5: Guys, and the guaranteed money, because you mentioned it, I
Speaker 5: don't think these teams have as much cash as others
Speaker 5: because of the nature of their ownership. We went through
Speaker 5: the whole escrow thing. We don't need to talk about escrow.
Speaker 5: But it's kind of like for these fan bases, all right, Chargers, Bengals,
Speaker 5: let's be grown ups. Let's just take care of this.
Speaker 5: I think both quarterbacks are so low key they don't
Speaker 5: want to have any big drama publicly. But there was
Speaker 5: some talking Cincinnati. It's like forever that was Paul Brown Stadium, Remember,
Speaker 5: they just wouldn't get a naming right and the whole
Speaker 5: idea of them getting the naming rights was literally like
Speaker 5: looking ahead to this Joe Burrow contract, like we better
Speaker 5: we better sell it to Akroscher. I don't know is
Speaker 5: it Akroscher? Who's Akrosher?
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 3: Acrosure is in the midd that's Pittsburgh. Don't they have
Speaker 3: to have more guaranteed money? Mar Jackson pay Courts Stadia.
Speaker 3: Don't you have to pay these guys more than Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: So? And and Patrick Mahomes who signed that ten year contract,
Speaker 5: which was interesting. It's probably gonna get a new contract
Speaker 5: this offseason two, like a restructured one where he gets
Speaker 5: more than Jalen Hurts too, So it's.
Speaker 1: All that's a fun one to watch, spicy whoever gets Yeah,
Speaker 1: who gets more? That's good. Who's the highest paid player
Speaker 1: in the league. That's how this ends, right, I think it'll.
Speaker 5: Be Mahomes Mahomes?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, uh, let's see s that's me. Spoon perhaps
Speaker 1: the most underrated rock band of its era, all things considered,
Speaker 1: everyone likes Spoon, Greg they just don't know it.
Speaker 5: We were just talking about this.
Speaker 1: Yes, they have a song called the Underdog. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys know it. You probably do. You
Speaker 1: probably heard it, like, Oh, I liked the song. You
Speaker 1: didn't know it was spoon. It was featured prominently in
Speaker 1: one of those Spider Man movies with the new guy.
Speaker 5: I'm not aware not Andrew Garfield. Oh yeah, with a
Speaker 5: tall girl's boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 5: We're really talking like middle aged you.
Speaker 1: Know, you know the kid, the boy with the glass.
Speaker 1: He goes around with boyish charm charisma for days. Very
Speaker 1: good actor, young actor. Anyway, that leads me to the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. They are the ultimate underdogs entering twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: You ready for this? Here's a stat. The Cardinals have
Speaker 1: opened as underdogs in all seventeen games this season, per DraftKings,
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Am I gonna do it? He's gonna
Speaker 1: do it? Is there an oh to seventeen possibility in Arizona?
Speaker 2: Oh that's dark.
Speaker 3: I think that's so tough to achieve.
Speaker 5: And yet your team did it and contain almost did
Speaker 5: it again. No, it's possible they did.
Speaker 3: I would say this like it's let's say there's a world,
Speaker 3: and I think it's very possible where they start out
Speaker 3: terribly and Kyler Murray. It's just sort of agreed that
Speaker 3: we're not going to put Kyler Murray into the middle
Speaker 3: of a car crash. And so you've got a combination
Speaker 3: of Cault McCoy if he's even able to play at
Speaker 3: this point, David Blow Jeff driscoll at quarterback. So that's
Speaker 3: the roadmap to not win games and to get destroyed.
Speaker 3: And I think they're the They're the one clear team
Speaker 3: that like has a reason to get the number one
Speaker 3: pick and has a reason to not put Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: in Week twelve and try to win a few meaningless
Speaker 3: games down the stretch. So it's possible they're the one
Speaker 3: the first team I'd say possibility.
Speaker 5: I think it's possible because of the out of division schedule.
Speaker 5: So you're you're at Washington, say Week one, like that
Speaker 5: should be a somewhat winnable game, but with Colt McCoy's starting,
Speaker 5: it's it's less winnable. I mean, as much of a
Speaker 5: mess they were at the end of last season, they
Speaker 5: were in all those games and they won. They won
Speaker 5: some of them. You know, do they win that Atlanta game? No,
Speaker 5: Atlanta won at the end, But like you look at
Speaker 5: their schedule, and in each site I go to on
Speaker 5: the side, it's like tickets as low as blank. And
Speaker 5: usually for most team it's like one hundred and fifty dollars,
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty four dollars, and with the Cardinals,
Speaker 5: it's just like twenty bucks, twenty five bucks, thirty five bucks.
Speaker 5: Like you can get in. If you're into the Cardinals
Speaker 5: this year, you can get into the building.
Speaker 6: I wonder if there'll be a team that is like
Speaker 6: so the coast, so sideways that it's actually fun to
Speaker 6: watch at a certain point, like it comes back around,
Speaker 6: it goes so far heywire, and so it just becomes
Speaker 6: comical at that point.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's if they get the Carson Wentz signing done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got it.
Speaker 1: They could be a wild if Carson Wentz is on
Speaker 1: this stage in at.
Speaker 5: Houston week eleven. You're right, it's not. It's like not
Speaker 5: the craziest thing. And unlike the NBA, which just had
Speaker 5: the lottery, you know, you get that worst record, you
Speaker 5: get that one pick, and if you listen to the
Speaker 5: draft people, the quarterback draft people, some people like Drake
Speaker 5: May more than Caleb Williams. So that this is a
Speaker 5: year where I think there's gonna be two quarterbacks people
Speaker 5: absolutely love, and there'll be a lot of motivation to
Speaker 5: get to the bottom.
Speaker 1: Here are some great Spoon songs if people want to
Speaker 1: check it out Wild, which is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: songs the last couple of years. Anything you want the Underdog?
Speaker 1: As I said, you got your cherry bomb? Do you?
Speaker 1: Sister Jack? Inside out? I turned my camera on. I
Speaker 1: think that was in the pilot of It's.
Speaker 3: A lot of songs, a lot of songs.
Speaker 1: The way we get by it's a great band.
Speaker 5: But as we as we were talking about it's a band,
Speaker 5: you hear the song and you're like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 5: like this song. Who is this and someone goes like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's Spooning, and near like yeah, I was like that.
Speaker 5: I was like, Spoons. But then you don't follow up
Speaker 5: and actually listen, that's my That's been my.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's impacted their their bottom line in
Speaker 1: a really egregious way, and it's probably very frustrating, But
Speaker 1: shout out to Spoon. Speaking of Spoons, you remember Mark
Speaker 1: back in the day. We're coming up on the year
Speaker 1: anniversary of one of the most famous questions in the
Speaker 1: history of around the NFL to cave on Thibodeau the
Speaker 1: Giants defensive end. Let's listen in.
Speaker 3: You know, you've just gotten to know Brian Table, your
Speaker 3: your new coach. Would you just instinctly do you think
Speaker 3: he's more of a front spoon or a backspoon when
Speaker 3: he is spooning someone.
Speaker 1: I don't answer those type of questions. That's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was this decision because just like right now,
Speaker 3: I was staring at, you know, my laptop and then
Speaker 3: come up with a variety of questions for him. And
Speaker 3: we had talked to him before and I thought that, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, he was going to be.
Speaker 1: Game for he was a humorless boob.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wasn't the case.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I we were friends, were famous.
Speaker 1: When Greg was here, everything was under control.
Speaker 5: I connected with the youth.
Speaker 3: I was like, looking, I had I had a decision,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I know this is not going great.
Speaker 3: I make the decision to ask this question or pivot
Speaker 3: off to something panic, pivot to something much more mundane.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, no, of course we're asking this question.
Speaker 1: And it was the right move. As a journalist, it
Speaker 1: was the right move. You know, there were some events
Speaker 1: that came after the fact, after that interview, that the
Speaker 1: public got an eye on some things for that young
Speaker 1: man that maybe he does. You know, he could stand
Speaker 1: to rethink some decisions. I put it that way.
Speaker 5: I do love as part of that clip before, it's
Speaker 5: like Thibodeau barely had the words out of his mouth
Speaker 5: and Dan's just like, oh, yeah, that's a hard question.
Speaker 5: It's like board, It's like, let's let's throw Mark from
Speaker 5: the boat.
Speaker 1: Well, no, you have to see his face. You have
Speaker 1: to see his face as the question is being asked.
Speaker 1: Because it was like a slow motion car crash. From
Speaker 1: my seat, I was like, oh no, oh.
Speaker 2: No, I never really heard it describe that.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I did not leave big little right, I did not
Speaker 3: describe a spoon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's I actually.
Speaker 3: Agree more with front or back because in certain worlds,
Speaker 3: like the back person could be the smaller. It could
Speaker 3: be a smaller person spooning.
Speaker 2: It doesn't I'm the smallest big spoon you will ever meet.
Speaker 3: Right, but you can play that role.
Speaker 5: But god, a little I don't.
Speaker 2: Like being a little spoon because I I mean, misterphobic
Speaker 2: not surprising, and I don't think he necessarily likes it, but.
Speaker 1: Pill for his poison. I wasn't throwing you under the bus.
Speaker 1: I was trying to like it was going or I
Speaker 1: try to pivot out of that. Yeah, we were.
Speaker 3: We got through that together.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: That's all I'd say about that, because there's another It's
Speaker 3: like another fleshy like seventeen or eighteen minutes like.
Speaker 5: This guy over here. I don't know about that question.
Speaker 2: My god, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't do that. I didn't do that.
Speaker 3: It was It was a tough one though, but it's
Speaker 3: like a twenty five minute conversation. I remember being in
Speaker 3: my car after that, like you're just like trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what just happened.
Speaker 1: What it was like a bomb it dropped. I do
Speaker 1: there is a part of me that always has thought
Speaker 1: we got to bring him back. I think so now
Speaker 1: I just called him a humorous boop that that could
Speaker 1: be an issue. But if it gets back to him,
Speaker 1: but he was and maybe if he's on the show
Speaker 1: again with Greg most importantly vitally, yeah he'll be back
Speaker 1: in you know, better speaking opportunity for him, more playful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll have to ask him again.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is a great call. Let's say it goes great,
Speaker 1: and he's like flying with us. And then one last question.
Speaker 5: Like we didn't really get the answer last time, but
Speaker 5: we've been wondering the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: If you changed your mind, you do answer those questions now.
Speaker 1: T Greg all right.
Speaker 5: My word is a truculent, Uh, defined as eager or
Speaker 5: quick to argue aggressively defiant.
Speaker 2: Have you been called this?
Speaker 5: No, but I think that could be accurate in some cases.
Speaker 5: The sentence describe you know, they use an example sentence
Speaker 5: It was his days of truculent defiance were over. But
Speaker 5: let me tell you mine are just starting. It's truculent offseason. Uh,
Speaker 5: let's let's hear some things this offseason maybe that will
Speaker 5: inspire truculence or just to kind of like get familiar
Speaker 5: with the words. Roman Roy right now. Love that guy.
Speaker 5: I don't care what he does. Truculent as hell. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's he's there's.
Speaker 1: Something there by the way. I think maybe you see yourself.
Speaker 3: I think Craig sees himself.
Speaker 5: I hope there's not too much, but I just think
Speaker 5: he's because he's.
Speaker 1: Like a monster on the show's.
Speaker 5: A funny is a funny monster. I've I've always been
Speaker 5: a Kieran Culkin fan. Going back to Igby goes Down,
Speaker 5: I think he's just a great actor, but he cracks
Speaker 5: me up. I think he nails that whole thing.
Speaker 1: He's an enemy of democracy.
Speaker 5: Well now yeah, with the political stuff, it's been less
Speaker 5: funny that he's trying to ruin the country.
Speaker 1: No spoilers though, No spoiler.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: Anytime like any reporter or analyst or someone on Twitter
Speaker 5: tries to draw any meaning whatsoever from oates in mini
Speaker 5: camps that go beyond injuries, uh, that will make me truculent.
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I saw some of that with your boys, Anthony Richardson recently.
Speaker 1: The spirals are unbelievable from this kid. Can't relax.
Speaker 5: Just I think the Rams are gonna get truculent when
Speaker 5: anyone says rebuild, this is on my radar. They're gonna
Speaker 5: be very sensitive. But if they're not rebuilding, when you cover.
Speaker 3: Like eight teams in one with one letter, yes, you're
Speaker 3: just scattering me. You know I'm being scattered left and right.
Speaker 5: But they're just one sentences.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm gonna revisit one of these teams. I feel.
Speaker 5: I think the important thing is people leave this show
Speaker 5: understanding what truculent means. After my her suit uh disaster
Speaker 5: the other day, it is getting hairy.
Speaker 1: Right now? Do you step on one more Sessler topic
Speaker 1: I have, Like we'll get.
Speaker 5: I have four more Bears fans. We could double up
Speaker 5: a little. It's like Bears fans anyone time anyone points
Speaker 5: out how little ebra flues added to the defense, or
Speaker 5: like even there's like a.
Speaker 3: Little of caution, don't get checking point that out earlier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that I think Bears fans that that's they'll get truculent. Uh,
Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson or anyone associated with the Browns will get
Speaker 5: truculent if anyone dares mention the reason he missed the
Speaker 5: season and a half and like, uh, he didn't go
Speaker 5: to jail man. It's America, Like they get very truculate.
Speaker 5: Spit a blanket on the entire fan they like, I
Speaker 5: can't mention it. Sean Payton if anyone mentions he was
Speaker 5: the Broncos fourth choice to be head coach, Oh, it's
Speaker 5: gonna go. And then Bill Belichick not truculent at all.
Speaker 5: This is Bill Belichick season. He's so happy in the offseason.
Speaker 5: I think he loves this. You tell oh, actually his
Speaker 5: he's like wearing the shorts. He's spinning the whistle.
Speaker 1: Was everyone a negative spinning except for the Patriots. One
Speaker 1: is that he's.
Speaker 5: Spinning the whistle in the press conference. He's that he's
Speaker 5: like he still loves football. I don't think he loves
Speaker 5: like losing and the stressless season, but this is his time.
Speaker 5: He's just like teaching. He's a cot like he's a teacher,
Speaker 5: and he's just like in a great mood.
Speaker 1: Now, I bet a lot of coaches are like that.
Speaker 1: Press is where the pressure isn't on them at all,
Speaker 1: and they just have the ability to do what they
Speaker 1: love without peering eyes and all that they swing that
Speaker 1: big old whistle.
Speaker 5: I hope I didn't make you panic pivot.
Speaker 3: And no I'm not. I'm like, I know where I'm going.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and finish this out. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back mark you.
Speaker 3: I want to mention one of the teams that the
Speaker 3: Gregg reference, so I'll say you is for underrated. I'm
Speaker 3: asking a question. I'm not okay, is it possible where
Speaker 3: sort of blanket level underrating the Rams? I just wonder
Speaker 3: because when I read like what Jordan Rodrigue describes what
Speaker 3: the team is doing like there is an incredible youth
Speaker 3: movement occurring, so and Sean McVay decided to stick around
Speaker 3: through this, Like, I wonder if it's a gateway to
Speaker 3: see that we're maybe underrating the powers of Sean McVay
Speaker 3: in general, like to coach up like a super young
Speaker 3: roster that still has a star quarterback, arguably the best
Speaker 3: wide out and the finest defensive player in football. Little
Speaker 3: top heavy, but there are pieces or like to your
Speaker 3: rebuild truculency. Do they get to a point in the
Speaker 3: season and be like or even the offseason, say actually,
Speaker 3: this doesn't all fit together the way that we thought,
Speaker 3: and Matthew Stafford and others are out the door by Halloween.
Speaker 3: If a team needs a quarterback or someone else and
Speaker 3: that does become a full rebuild, I just wonder how
Speaker 3: they view themselves because they seem to be more confident
Speaker 3: in who they are and what they are, then I
Speaker 3: feel about them looking at the roster.
Speaker 1: If I'm Sean McVay and I guess less need I'm
Speaker 1: loving this setup right now because no one, like you're saying,
Speaker 1: thinks they're worth of damn right now, everyone thinks the
Speaker 1: bill came due and they were terrible last year and
Speaker 1: they're just gonna not be competitive this year either. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a little yeah, that's a blanket statement
Speaker 1: just to assume a lot went wrong for them last year.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot. And it's even under the best circumstances.
Speaker 1: Returning after winning a Super Bowl is a very hard
Speaker 1: task for teams. So now you get past that hangover thing,
Speaker 1: you get all the terrible injuries, you got a fresh
Speaker 1: start there. And I think what they're trying to do,
Speaker 1: Connie a little bit is thread the needle. I think
Speaker 1: they know they're not a powerhouse, maybe internally, but I
Speaker 1: think they look at it and they say, you know what,
Speaker 1: with this core, with these superstars we still have in
Speaker 1: the building, there's a path that ten wins here and
Speaker 1: being a relevant team and playing in the postseason, and
Speaker 1: then who knows what happens. And sure it's not crazy
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 6: I guess at this point they're a team that could
Speaker 6: be looked at as playing with house money if they
Speaker 6: do exceed expectations, because the expectations are so low. But
Speaker 6: even just pulling up the death chart and looking at
Speaker 6: who's there the defense, especially, Like, yes, they have Aaron Donald,
Speaker 6: but it's a lot of names that really are not
Speaker 6: big names at all. And you have Jaylen Ramsey gone
Speaker 6: now too with this secondary I mean their corners or
Speaker 6: Robert Rochelle and Darien Kendrick. Like, there's a lot of
Speaker 6: names that aren't household names. And sure Cooper cup could
Speaker 6: come back from this injury and be great with Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 6: but I'm just I'm not really buying it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can do it.
Speaker 1: To the point of what you were saying, though, Mark right,
Speaker 1: is that this has to be for that building. They're like,
Speaker 1: we like some of these young guys. We're excited about
Speaker 1: coaching them up. And people don't think we're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to turn these guys into players, but I think
Speaker 1: they probably do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they signed a ton of undrafted guys too. I
Speaker 3: just think it's more it's not that this is this
Speaker 3: eleven win season in hiding. I think it's just that
Speaker 3: maybe they feel like the plan is not just this
Speaker 3: is a throwaway year. We're not the Arizona Cardinals. There's
Speaker 3: maybe a lot more going on here. In like a
Speaker 3: weekend NFC, and I just want to I think it's
Speaker 3: kind of like we've seen Sean McVay coach a star
Speaker 3: studded team and we saw the result, but like this
Speaker 3: is a different version of them. For some reason, this
Speaker 3: Rams journey is more interesting to me than the sort
Speaker 3: of like prepackaged Super Bowl team that was foisted upon
Speaker 3: us by the entire NFL.
Speaker 6: You know, I could see them almost as like a
Speaker 6: Lions of last year because we saw we watched hard Knocks,
Speaker 6: and you know, of course our expectations are always high
Speaker 6: after hard Knocks, but there was a lot of names
Speaker 6: that we didn't know how they could play, or what
Speaker 6: they would be like in the NFL, and how they
Speaker 6: would play together. And then they came together and exceeded expectations.
Speaker 6: So maybe that's what the Rams do, right.
Speaker 5: And I don't think they were happy with their coaching
Speaker 5: staff last year. They bring in Mike Lafleur, They're asking
Speaker 5: a lot of Raheem Morris. The problem is I think
Speaker 5: they're over under six and a half, one of the
Speaker 5: lowest in the league. I think they think they can
Speaker 5: beat that. I think they think their recipe is we
Speaker 5: can be a legit good offense like a top seven
Speaker 5: or eight offense with these veterans and the defense like
Speaker 5: Raheem Morris, like, we are asking a lot out of you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: We know we're not giving you much talent, but can
Speaker 5: you just make them respectable enough for this offense which
Speaker 5: has a lot of veterans. I mean, we say they're
Speaker 5: a young team, but like Stafford, Higbee, Akers Havevenstein, Noteboom Cup, Jefferson,
Speaker 5: those are all Super Bowl starters essentially.
Speaker 1: So you said six and a half, six and a half,
Speaker 1: I'm banging the over.
Speaker 3: I would too. It's just not a very good conference. Bang,
Speaker 3: I think it's right.
Speaker 1: That's not true too.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think six and a half feels
Speaker 5: about right.
Speaker 1: Like bang the under the seven you're saying that's it,
Speaker 1: they're ex seven and eleven lost team. Okay, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure is saying, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Good point. They won five in a total bottom out situation.
Speaker 5: They still it's a good point.
Speaker 1: Up next is Colleen. But the always difficult letter v he.
Speaker 2: Is for votes and vetos.
Speaker 6: We have the letter by coming up next week in Minnesota,
Speaker 6: and one of the things they will be voting on
Speaker 6: is whether or not Amazon those TNF games late in
Speaker 6: the season can be flexed from Sundays to Thursdays, which
Speaker 6: I think is super interesting. Goodell was pushing this in
Speaker 6: Phoenix a couple months ago. They had twenty two votes.
Speaker 6: They need twenty four votes, so they just needed to
Speaker 6: get two more for this to go through. And I mean,
Speaker 6: it turns out when you're paying one point two billion
Speaker 6: dollars you can get better matchups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one point five billion, you could do it too.
Speaker 2: You lose me on the math and the decimal points,
Speaker 2: so yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that it's tough to move any
Speaker 6: games in and out of Thursday because it's so early
Speaker 6: in the week. But they'd be able to do this
Speaker 6: with a fifteen day advanced notice, so teams would know
Speaker 6: ahead of time whether or not they'd have a short
Speaker 6: week or maybe they're getting out of a short week.
Speaker 1: Truth.
Speaker 3: I like any flexibility that allows us to not get
Speaker 3: stuck with like a stink bomb on Thursday night late
Speaker 3: in the year. I think the teams and the players
Speaker 3: have to feel very differently about it. I think in
Speaker 3: a way, we get to a point where they're just
Speaker 3: being moved around the board for our pleasure, and like
Speaker 3: from a health standpoint and a planning standpoint. They're the
Speaker 3: they take, they take the yel.
Speaker 5: I feel like we we've come a long way in
Speaker 5: terms of like comfort, as in like a Western society.
Speaker 5: I can live with like a finger of a Thursday
Speaker 5: night game here and there, Like I think we can
Speaker 5: accept that. Maybe Amazon can't hence the billions. But if
Speaker 5: you give me like three total stinkers on a Thursday
Speaker 5: and it just don't watch it if you don't want to.
Speaker 6: Broncos Colts last year in overtime and.
Speaker 5: Was early, That's what I mean. You can't prevent that.
Speaker 5: That was that looked like a good matchup.
Speaker 1: As al Michael said, scheduled a little leaky last year. Well,
Speaker 1: bet leaky.
Speaker 5: But that part of it was because Russell Wilson was
Speaker 5: so heavily involved in so many primetime games.
Speaker 1: A little bit leaky. Who's up? I'm up? Time for
Speaker 1: a poised to pivot? Oh do w all right?
Speaker 3: We went down the Amazon path to Uh that's true.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm asking if you that what caused you to have
Speaker 3: to pivot?
Speaker 1: Oh way back? Devanta Adams, Okay, that's why it's so poised.
Speaker 1: I've had time I love it. Uh. The Washington football team,
Speaker 1: formerly known as the Redskins, now the Commanders. And there
Speaker 1: is a thought now that Josh Harris and his gaggle
Speaker 1: of buddies have you know, rolled in or about to
Speaker 1: roll in. Why do we have to stick with commanders?
Speaker 1: What's the point? Like that was just like we talked
Speaker 1: about who was the private pile? What was the pig?
Speaker 1: They rolled out private pork commander what commander Carnitas? What
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 3: It was the absurd they got on field care.
Speaker 1: They rolled out the mascot at halftime of their final
Speaker 1: home game months.
Speaker 4: Before the Commander Tuddy Major Tuddy, Major Major Tuddy.
Speaker 3: I've just looked that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't say Commander Carneath.
Speaker 5: You can't just change the name again?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: I think there's I think there's provisions that prevent that,
Speaker 3: but I why not?
Speaker 5: But I guess you're right. I take that back. I
Speaker 5: don't like Commanders.
Speaker 2: Why not just go back to Washington football team?
Speaker 5: I like that all we didn't.
Speaker 1: He it's kind of a take that. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like everybody agrees that's not good either. Washington football team.
Speaker 5: Why not? It's different. It's like other sports. So it's somehow.
Speaker 1: Yeah is it what because it's like the it's like
Speaker 1: soccer football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that it was interesting. This is one another football
Speaker 5: I know, but that's just it's just for one team.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of Commanders just doesn't feel right to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not yeah, I just think maybe that's a little cute,
Speaker 1: but it's this is a Washington.
Speaker 5: This is Washington. I hear you.
Speaker 2: But where names that you want?
Speaker 5: Like Joe, thisman had a pretty good point. Let me
Speaker 5: there's a Commanders in Washington. There are many commanders in Washington. Okay,
Speaker 5: And Joe was right. And now I want to say
Speaker 5: my take here is not that the commanders should change
Speaker 5: their name. I I I'm saying, why wouldn't Josh Harris
Speaker 5: have the ability to It's his team.
Speaker 1: He's spent not just six billion, an additional fifty million
Speaker 1: on top of the six billion. Joeth, thisman who once
Speaker 1: told us about you know what so many throughout Washington,
Speaker 1: scattered across d C. He says, chill, Chill.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be a fan of rebranding because we've had
Speaker 7: you know, we've had three different names in four or
Speaker 7: five years, and to go through it again now that's
Speaker 7: one side of it. I think just to change for
Speaker 7: change's sake doesn't make sense. It never has for me.
Speaker 7: But you know what would be the reason to change.
Speaker 7: If you think of the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, they speak to the history of
Speaker 7: San Francisco of what they did in gold rush time.
Speaker 7: When you think of the Washington, DC area, it's the
Speaker 7: seat of command of all military.
Speaker 1: He's right. He was right then when he leaked the name,
Speaker 1: which he wasn't supposed to do, and he did, by
Speaker 1: the way, that was Grant and Danny on one O
Speaker 1: six to seven the fan and he's right now.
Speaker 5: The seat of command. Maybe we should call them the seats.
Speaker 2: The seat of command is truly wonderful.
Speaker 5: Joeagon Is Joe still going to be like the kind
Speaker 5: of figurehead with the new ownership because he sort of
Speaker 5: had like an unofficial statesman role which I believe was
Speaker 5: paid by the old ownership.
Speaker 1: Are there any I know Englewood High just walked in.
Speaker 1: Any anybody that's big Rams fan? Back? There?
Speaker 5: There many Rams like hand a couple of hands like
Speaker 5: they're not actually listening to the show. The audio The
Speaker 5: audio might not be available there.
Speaker 1: Are a couple, Eric, there are a couple. Do we
Speaker 1: want to ask one of the students their thoughts on
Speaker 1: the RAMS in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 5: I mean, that's putting them on the spot, but sure,
Speaker 5: I'm down.
Speaker 1: Eric, you mind handing over the headset? Yeah? Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk to the youth. Let's get connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does anyone want to talk about the RAMS?
Speaker 1: This is this is what it's about. No sales or deciding.
Speaker 1: There are roughly forty four students behind the glass right now.
Speaker 1: They're deciding who will speak on behalf of the youth
Speaker 1: of southern California. All right, here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 1: Here we got someone stepped up? All right, who are
Speaker 1: we talking to?
Speaker 3: Hello? My name is Isaac Ramirez.
Speaker 1: Isaac Ramirez, buddy, you from Englewood. Yeah, all right, and
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 4: Class of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: All right, the best class.
Speaker 8: Sorry to say, I'm just going to say that right now.
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. Welcome to around the NFL.
Speaker 1: Were you aware that this podcast existed before you came
Speaker 1: into the not at all. Okay, that's something we need
Speaker 1: to work on. We need to connect that, we need
Speaker 1: to connect. All right, I'm sorry you're name again, Isaac Ramirez?
Speaker 1: A right, Isaac, you as you know, the Rams called
Speaker 1: Englewood home for several years. Now, what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Rams entering a new season. Excited? You're in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in, all in because a lot of people are
Speaker 1: saying the Rams not so hot anymore. They won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they were bad last year, and now they
Speaker 1: should be overlooked as an Englewood of your saying people
Speaker 1: got to respect the home.
Speaker 8: Team exactly exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: What has it been like for you? You know, as
Speaker 5: a high school student, so you were here essentially when
Speaker 5: they moved into the area. When so far moved into
Speaker 5: the area, have you seen like Rams fandom pick up?
Speaker 5: Are you emotionally ty like? What has that been like
Speaker 5: for you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 8: For me, since my last names are mirrors, you know,
Speaker 8: I gotta got to represent gotchah, so technically they're my team.
Speaker 5: Just saying just sing okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Mark, is there anything you want to share? A
Speaker 1: class of twenty three, your class of ninety one, ninety two,
Speaker 1: I've been ninety two, thousand years ago, kind of looking
Speaker 1: as we spin.
Speaker 8: Forward, Oh my god, that was so long ago.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you want to share with the
Speaker 1: youth of America.
Speaker 3: I have no wisdom to offer young people on any level.
Speaker 5: Okay, what about Texas?
Speaker 4: What about Texas?
Speaker 3: I think you're probably going to do a better job
Speaker 3: of it than I did over the course of time.
Speaker 3: So I wish you well.
Speaker 2: What do you want to do?
Speaker 8: Actually, I'm going to the navy.
Speaker 5: WHOA, he doesn't know that song either?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 8: Actually I'm not I'm not that young.
Speaker 1: Finally, finally, last question. You don't know us? What can
Speaker 1: we do to kind of get into the neighborhood and
Speaker 1: let people know that this podcast exists on any level?
Speaker 8: Well, to be fair, I don't really know anything that
Speaker 8: you guys talk about, like to that extent.
Speaker 5: Okay, football, yeah, yeah, football, but.
Speaker 1: Like football, like pigskin, things like that kin. That's fun.
Speaker 5: And you ever heard the word truck truculent before truck
Speaker 5: you lent your suit. It means eager or quick to
Speaker 5: argue or fight so that you can you can impress
Speaker 5: your navy fence for.
Speaker 2: The more, you know, I learned that today to everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: Behind the glass, classmates, give up for isis good luck
Speaker 1: with everything?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 1: See I feel like we've connected with the youth. Now
Speaker 1: whether that makes a difference in the metrics word of mouth,
Speaker 1: you never.
Speaker 6: Know what the reason you're connecting with the youth for
Speaker 6: the metrics stand correct.
Speaker 5: Well, I did notice a lot of his friends were
Speaker 5: recording that too on their phone, so we could get
Speaker 5: some major's.
Speaker 1: Little bump new audience. All right, anything else? Are we done?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: No, I do have to go save my sick. Uh,
Speaker 5: my sick.
Speaker 1: All right, let's roll through it here.
Speaker 5: All right, I think I'm up.
Speaker 2: We'll do it quick. Yeah, Greg's up with X.
Speaker 1: I commanders change your name if you want, but I
Speaker 1: think follow Joe Eisman whatever he says, all right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: X all right.
Speaker 5: My my word is uh, seister. I'm not sure how
Speaker 5: to pronounce.
Speaker 2: Care what you're doing this again?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I asked Eric during the show if
Speaker 5: he could play a pronunciation guide of this word. It's
Speaker 5: x Y s t R. I saw this word and
Speaker 5: I was like, what a word. Let's let's try to
Speaker 5: hear the pronunciation. Oh, okay, sister, let's hear that again.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I trust what is it? So?
Speaker 5: The sister is a sir instrument for scraping bones. And
Speaker 5: that's I feel like the Vikings have been using a
Speaker 5: zister to their defense this offseason, just picking it clean.
Speaker 5: Their top four cornerbacks are gone. Their top four cornerbacks
Speaker 5: last year. Patrick Peterson was one of them. Who else,
Speaker 5: Duke Shelley, Cameron Danceler, I don't know who was the fourth.
Speaker 5: Who cares. They weren't very good, Peterson was, Okay, it's
Speaker 5: all a bunch of new players. You get rid of
Speaker 5: Eric Kendricks at linebacker as well, you get rid of
Speaker 5: Zidarius Smith. And on one hand, I'm like, what is
Speaker 5: up with this defense? And then on the other, oh,
Speaker 5: you brought in Brian Flores. That's a big upgrade. You
Speaker 5: actually can't get much worse than you were last year.
Speaker 5: So worst case scenario, maybe you're the same. You're asking
Speaker 5: Brian Flores to do a lot. You need young players,
Speaker 5: like their picks last year at the top of the
Speaker 5: draft who really got no playing time, who was Scene
Speaker 5: Their first round pick got hurt right away, Lewis Scene,
Speaker 5: and then Andrew Boots Junior the second round pick. So
Speaker 5: they have some young players. They have Denel Hunter still,
Speaker 5: if they can just improve to a little bit maybe
Speaker 5: that offense is enough to carry them and they're not
Speaker 5: a total disaster this year. Eight and a half is
Speaker 5: there over under right now? That feels fair. But defensively
Speaker 5: they took the zisters.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of remarkable? And we all know thirteen
Speaker 1: and four was weird last year, but to get banged
Speaker 1: all the way down to eight and a half, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's my only pushback to We're hearing that
Speaker 1: a lot like, oh, Brian Flores is there now, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be much much better. Yeah, but you gotta have
Speaker 1: players to coach up. And maybe it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: And like I was saying with La they like a
Speaker 1: lot of these years, they're.
Speaker 5: A one sided team. I think they're hoping they're defense
Speaker 5: bad their defense, They're hoping their offense can be a
Speaker 5: top ten offense, and then the old line's pretty good
Speaker 5: and they have weapons. I think Addison could be a
Speaker 5: big upgrade from where Adam Thielen was a year ago,
Speaker 5: so the offense could be good.
Speaker 3: I wonder what they what they told Brian Flores. Because
Speaker 3: of any team in the league this offseason, it was
Speaker 3: the Vikings that have had to make like really severe
Speaker 3: moves to they couldn't even pay the rookie class. I
Speaker 3: have to get rid of zid areas, right, That's exactly
Speaker 3: why that happens. So, I mean, if anything, you have
Speaker 3: to give Brian Floores like a total mulligan. They were
Speaker 3: awful to begin with. You've taken parts away and you're
Speaker 3: essentially putting them into a completely new scheme. We're probably
Speaker 3: if you're Brian flour saying, a lot of these players
Speaker 3: don't necessarily fit what I would handpick to start with.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a long year. But to Greg
Speaker 3: to your point, like, they were literally the worst defense
Speaker 3: in the league last year, So if they're the second worst,
Speaker 3: he's done an incredible job metrics wise.
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure, a lot of pressure on the offense.
Speaker 1: The offense has to be great and then the defense.
Speaker 1: If the defense goes from like the thirtieth best defense
Speaker 1: to the twentieth best this year, is that enough to
Speaker 1: get back to the playoffs? Maybe?
Speaker 5: What's that pronunciation again? All right, let's move on. A
Speaker 5: surgical instrument for scraping bones.
Speaker 2: Oh surgical?
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask you, is that like a Butcher
Speaker 6: Show surgical instrument?
Speaker 1: Like an undertaker? More choy all right anyway, Mark, why
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 3: I am panic pivoting, uh and this time I have
Speaker 3: no backup plan. But I do have a question that
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of something there. But I'm
Speaker 3: happy to ask this question. Why is for for you?
Speaker 3: For yolo? I guess a term that I think I
Speaker 3: banned in the past.
Speaker 1: Each of you sweat is building.
Speaker 3: Give me something this off season that you're going to
Speaker 3: do to change your life before all hell breaks loose
Speaker 3: in August. Something that you vow to do that will
Speaker 3: improve your life between throwing it back to us.
Speaker 2: I'm a perfect pivot.
Speaker 6: That's a perfect a pivot.
Speaker 1: The okay, Colleen, you're up.
Speaker 6: Then I will be figure skating more because it makes
Speaker 6: me more of a grounded person.
Speaker 1: That's a great I thank you, adore that, Greg Dan, Okay,
Speaker 1: panic pivot off, a panic pivot. I will be spending
Speaker 1: time with family in Texas and New York and New Jersey. Sure,
Speaker 1: catching up with friends, and that is revitalizing to me
Speaker 1: after a long football season. So that is what I
Speaker 1: That's how I will Yolo bro low back to you.
Speaker 5: Greg, Greg, Yeah, I'll be in Japan in the in
Speaker 5: the hottest part of the seat year. It's about ninety
Speaker 5: five degrees in humid every day and I'll be there
Speaker 5: for a couple of weeks and I really hope to
Speaker 5: just lose a lot of water weight.
Speaker 2: That way, John and I are coming with you next year.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's my goal too, to lose, to
Speaker 3: lose a fair amount of water weight.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm just saying. It's it's it's sweaty.
Speaker 1: Also, listen to more Spoon and spread the gospel of Spoon,
Speaker 1: the Austin rock band.
Speaker 5: There you go, Well, what about you.
Speaker 3: Lose water weight? I'm that's serious about that show.
Speaker 1: Some of that z Colleen closed it out the last one.
Speaker 6: Zenith, I start it with Nader. I'm ending with zena
Speaker 6: nice And that is exactly, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you.
Speaker 6: That is exactly where the Kelsey brothers are right now
Speaker 6: in their lives. They are living. They have never been
Speaker 6: more powerful as siblings. They were both in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: They're hosting, well Travis is hosting SNL, but Jason was
Speaker 6: there too. Jason was bits exactly. They are the big
Speaker 6: get for any time, any show, any radio show, any
Speaker 6: TV show that's on right now. They had Kelsey jam
Speaker 6: at the Draft Jason Kelce was smashing beers with fans
Speaker 6: in the audience.
Speaker 1: Kelsey jam was like a party, right, yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Was a huge concert that they So they got invited
Speaker 6: to that, right I didn't go.
Speaker 1: And you're Philadelphia Royalty. The fact that you even got
Speaker 1: the invite and that said no, I can't make it
Speaker 1: work just shows.
Speaker 6: You know you say Philadelphia Royalty. I feel like I
Speaker 6: reached my zenith when last week Andy Reid told me
Speaker 6: I have Philadelphia hair, and I was like, well, there
Speaker 6: is nowhere to go for And then at the top
Speaker 6: of the mountain.
Speaker 5: And he said say hi to Gonzo during a live
Speaker 5: interview on television, and you read that's Did they keep
Speaker 5: that in the show?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I didn't.
Speaker 5: You were a little worried they might edit that.
Speaker 3: Gonzo's response to that, I'd be on the top.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he knows. I have to tell him.
Speaker 1: You know what else, Like relatedly, you can tell Joe
Speaker 1: it's a busy day.
Speaker 5: You told me so that's the preference.
Speaker 1: You told me.
Speaker 2: About it right after it happened. It was a pre
Speaker 2: tape earlier in the day.
Speaker 1: One more Philly related zenith, the sixer is about midway
Speaker 1: through the third quarter of Game six against the Celtics.
Speaker 2: Can we not?
Speaker 5: Can we maybe merely? Fourth quarter? Yeah?
Speaker 2: They can't get out of that round.
Speaker 5: I can't get past.
Speaker 6: He's done, they're us career.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, keep going, get it out.
Speaker 2: I'm done.
Speaker 6: I'm done with the with the Celtics and their stupid
Speaker 6: parquet floor.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're.
Speaker 2: Beautiful.
Speaker 1: Head out.
Speaker 5: It's just paint now, it's not a real parquet.
Speaker 2: But it's over. It's all over.
Speaker 5: Five free teen. I mean, he's got to help himself.
Speaker 6: None of those sports in Philly ended up going all
Speaker 6: the way, so that's cool.
Speaker 3: Well, we feel for you.
Speaker 2: Why do you come over to the Philly side me? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm fine, fan, I'm absolutely well fine. We don't want
Speaker 2: you then, never mind.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've sold it well, you've sold it well, but.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, ummm not really.
Speaker 5: You've reached the zenith.
Speaker 1: We've reached. We've reached the end of the Yellow Brook Road.
Speaker 1: The glossary of terms twenty twenty three off season is complete.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone behind the glass you know again,
Speaker 1: and also thank you to Englewood.
Speaker 2: High School shout out and Isaac.
Speaker 1: And Isaac Ramirez, who is going to do some damage
Speaker 1: in the Navy.
Speaker 5: Isaac, Isaac's gonna go far in life because he was
Speaker 5: in a room full of people who are all just
Speaker 5: like looking at each other and saying like who wants
Speaker 5: to take the mic? And Isaac's like taking the mic?
Speaker 1: What's the highest level of the navy admiral total admiral material?
Speaker 5: A lot of admirals in Engwood.
Speaker 1: Definitely are getting that wrong, right, Just another correct, another
Speaker 1: correction to make and thank you everybody behind the glass,
Speaker 1: Eric Rondie Chavez. Very tough week, uh and tough run
Speaker 1: for ATM lately, and they've been doing great work keeping
Speaker 1: us afloat heed the call