1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Dance is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Get the home field advantage with healthcare from Farm Bureau 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Health Plans. They've been protecting Tennesseeans for seventy five years. 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: My name is Mike Keith. I am joined by Titans 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Radio's draft duo of Rhett Brian and coach Dave McGinnis. 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Have we recovered? I think we recovered and I think 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: we acquitted ourselves very well. Mike really enjoyed the two 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: days of the draft and then Rhet and I in 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: the studio while you were handling. They're at Nissan Stadium 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: with a lot of fans. That was great. Draft fest 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: was outstanding. So yes, we're ready to go recharged. Let's 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: do this. Let's do this all right. So we want 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: to go through the story of the twenty twenty two 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: draft for the Titans, and that story for us is 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: on the air on Titans Radio at the Grand Hoigh 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: watching the draft come down and everything unfolded. And so 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the Titans are scheduled to pick twenty sixth. After the 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: sixteenth pick is made John Dotson, the LA Chargers are 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: going on the clock, and then I have to gather 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Rhett Bryant, Dave McGinnis, and our broadcast partner Ramon fostered 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: together along with Philip Noel and Brad Willis, who are 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: running the show for us at the Grand Hyatt, and 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: I have to give you some news, and that news 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: is the Titans are trading AJ Brown to the Philadelphia 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Eagles in exchange for the eighteenth pick and the one 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: hundred first pick. Coach Mack, what was your reaction when 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: you heard this news? This is the draft. I mean, 28 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: we were prepared, as anybody that even puts on a 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: draft show. So we were prepared. But you have to 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: be prepared for the unknown, and that was one of 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: the unknowns. And so when you got us together, I 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: knew you weren't just gathering us up that early in 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: the draft to say, hey, fellas, you're really doing a 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: good job. Halfway through, boys, we're rolling halfway. You guys 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: are really doing a nice job. I'm really glad you're here. 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I knew something big was up, and clearly it was 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: what you have to do when something like that happens 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: in draft rooms. And then, just like we had to do, 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: then you have to recalibrate. You have to recalibrate you 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: have to reset. And so it's much like coaching in 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: a game. You can have all the game plans that 42 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you want, Mike, but when you have to adjust. When 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: once the game started, and we were adjusting right in 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the game. So the Chargers are on 45 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: the clock, the Titans are now one pick away. Reett Brian, 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: your thoughts when you hear the news that A. J. 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Brown is no longer a tight little shocked, But when 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: you look at it in hindsight like we are right now. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: When you think about the craziest offseason in NFL history 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: in free agency and how wide receiver value in dollars 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: and guarantee money went up exponentially, even crazier than we 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: ever thought, it kind of puts everything into contacts. It's like, Okay, 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: this makes sense because clearly the Titans are in a 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: place financially because they've had six straight winning seasons they 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: can't afford to pay everyone. But that's with time to 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: think about it. While sitting there in the hey, I 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: was like, okay. And at that point too, we're dealing 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: with two things. We're on Titans radio, We're on one 59 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: oh four or five zone in Nashville and We're on 60 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: a lot of our Titans radio stations throughout the mid South, 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: and thanks to them for carrying our Thursday night wall 62 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: to wall coverage in our Friday night wall to wall coverage. 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: So you've you've got that. But we also have several 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: hundred people in the room with us at the Grand Hyatt. Yes, 65 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: from the twenty second element. So I'm debating do I 66 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: read the Adam Schefter tweet at this point, which is 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: that AJ Brown has been traded. So it's like, well, 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: if you're doing your job, you got to read the tweet. 69 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: The crowd did not really like the tweet very and 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: to your point, let me just say this. You always 71 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: do your job, and that's being professional. And when we 72 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: do this job, we have to take our personal feelings 73 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: completely out of it and be professional and do it 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: just like you do anything else in this business. It 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: is a business. But when you said they didn't like it, 76 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: that's fair. And then we were delivered a pair of socks. 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 1: First of all, never been at a draft party and 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: received a negative reaction ever, ever, and so we got that, 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: and then we're delivered the pair of socks. Explain that red. Okay, 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: let me back up just a second, just prior to 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: the pick and you making the announcement. I went back 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and listened to the archives, and there was you could 83 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: hear because people are on their phones, a gasp, a grunt, 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: a growl, mur there was a murmur in the room. 85 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: And then when you said it, then boom. Okay, So 86 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: there's a gentleman that is sitting in a table almost 87 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: directly in front of us. Now he spaced out plenty far. 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: He's probably twenty yards away, and he is in all 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: of his AJ Brown gear and a flame head that 90 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: was a giveaway when you walked into a game from 91 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: two three seasons ago, whatever it was. And he is 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: very upset, very upset. And so he had proceeded to 93 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: take off his AJ Brown's socks that he had purchased, 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: probably at the pro shop at the stadium, because they 95 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: have him in Derrick Henry and you know they're we're 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: assuming he had them on. I think this question has 97 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: been asked to me. I don't know the answer. Can 98 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I just say this, okay, why would you just bring 99 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: a pair of socke I don't know and put him 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: in your pocket? Totally fair question, but I don't know 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the specific answer. So I'm leaving open the possibility that 102 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: he had them in his pocket. My guess is he 103 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: had them on He is so disappointed with the news 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: that he basically slams them down on the broadcast table 105 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: right by Dave McGinnis's position. And it's at this point 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: the Titans have made the pick of Traylan Burks from Arkansas, 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: the first round wide receiver number eighteen. Rhett is talking 108 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: about this while this is happening. He's talking about Traylan Burks, 109 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: who you love. He's my favorite pick of the draft. 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: He's your favorite. I was able to tell Traylan Burks 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: that on Friday when I met him. I'm like, you 112 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: were my favorite pick of the draft. But you're describing 113 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: this while the socks are being placed on the table 114 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: at the Grand Hide, and the gentleman does not seem 115 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: happy with you personally. Let me just say this. He 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: stayed at the party at the Grand Hyatt until it 117 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: was announced that John Robinson had traded out of pick 118 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: twenty six, which he immediately gathered his things and left. 119 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: But in that another what hour, whatever that was, If 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: looks could kill, I would not be here right now. 121 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: He didn't. He stared me. As the young folks say, 122 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: he mean mugged me for over an hour. I think 123 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Rhet's exact words were, while this man was put in 124 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: his socks on our table, Traylan Burr is my crush 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: in this draft. Yep, he is my draft crush. That's 126 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: what triggered him. And I did not realize this, but 127 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: at some point during the hour of mean mugging, he 128 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: had removed his AJ brown jersey and threw it on 129 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: the table he was sitting at. Okay, So so this 130 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: is this is quite a moment for all of us. 131 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: And if you are listening, if you are one of 132 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the ot people, you have your own story about this 133 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: moment because it was shocking. But the other part of it, too, 134 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: was the football key in all of this, which was 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: John Robinson finding a way to make this stay quiet 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: with help from the Eagles. And I would have, I 137 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: would guess, with help from the agent and with everybody involved, absolutely, 138 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: because that had to be part of the deal. They 139 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: knew if they were going to make the trade for 140 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: eighteen that they wanted Treylan Burkes, and if this had 141 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: gotten out three hours earlier, somebody would have jumped him. 142 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt, And Mike, this happens quite a bit. 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I can go back to all the experiences I've had 144 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: in draft rooms when you make deals like this, especially 145 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, a major deals. It happened with the deal 146 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: that the Titans and the Rams made when they flipped 147 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the number one. If you remember that, John Robinson and 148 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher both agreed to keep it quiet. Well, it 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: had to on our end here. Absolutely, we were called 150 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: into a meeting in John's office. I had been called 151 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: back from this very studio where we are at Cumulus 152 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Media right now to come back to the office because 153 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: the announcement was going to be made. And then there 154 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: was the realization on the Rams part, we don't want 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: to announce this tonight because it's Kobe Bryant's last game 156 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: in LA. That's absolutely why. And the Rams have just 157 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: gotten to La. And so John told eight people in 158 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: his office. And John really didn't know any of us. 159 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: He told us, he goes, this has to stay quiet. 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: It's going to be released at eight o'clock in the morning. 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: And I'll ever forget. I didn't sleep a wink that 162 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: night because if this gets out, I'm thinking John Robinson's 163 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna blame me and I'm gonna lose my job. So 164 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: you're one of the eight in the room, right, I'm 165 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: one of the eight in the room. But they're gonna 166 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: assume it's the broadcaster who's blabbed, who's blabbed, because broadcasters 167 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: are famous for not being able to keep their mouth shut. Well, 168 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: I've learned over the years to keep my mouth shut, 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: but as a section of workers, broadcasters are the biggest 170 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: gossips that you will meet anywhere. Well, and to me, 171 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I was on the other end of that, and that 172 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: immediately when all of this was going on in La 173 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher brought it up and said, look, and what 174 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: you said, Mike, The Rads had just gotten there. It 175 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: was a massive move, and we don't want to we 176 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: don't want to supersede anything going on with Kobe Bryant 177 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: and the Lakers at this time. Sure, the same thing 178 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: was said on our end. Look, there was a real 179 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: small circle of people that knew that, and it happens 180 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot in this league. But you're right now, basically 181 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: these days with you know, with all the social media, 182 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you've just got to learn. And as I say, 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: I've done this a long time. You know that I 184 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: get a lot of intel that I never talk about 185 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: except when it's time. You got to learn to keep 186 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: your powder dry. And it's about trust. And once you 187 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: engender that trust over a period of years, then you're 188 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to get information that you can 189 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: use at the appropriate time. And this was one of them. Mike. 190 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: This had an effect on the draft in the bottom 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: half of it because think about this, of all of 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers talk in the off season, if they 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: still haven't drafted a first round wide receiver in twenty years, right, 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: And this was one of the reasons why they didn't 195 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: do it this past weekend. And if the reports are 196 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: true Aaron Rodgers wanted trailing Burke. Well, if it had 197 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: come out at two o'clock in the afternoon or four 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, the Packers with two ones and 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: two twos would have had the draft capital to jump 200 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: the Titan Goodacust would have jumped them in a hurry, 201 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't have cost him much in terms of 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: what he had they ended up moving around anyway. So 203 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: this is typical John Robinson saying, Hey, if we're gonna 204 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: do this deal, this deal is not final, Mom's the 205 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: word until we get in that situation. And then you know, 206 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: we get advised from the team as the Chargers are 207 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: putting in their card because things are happening faster than 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: what you see on TV. Absolutely, so the Chargers have 209 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: already put in their card while it's still being shown 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: on TV that they're on the clock. And so this 211 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: this all goes down and the Titans end up with 212 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Traylan Burks. And what is lost in that immediate moment 213 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: that has now become apparent now is I think the 214 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Titans may have gotten a future superstar in Traylan Burks. Well. Absolutely, 215 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: And of course we do a very extensive vetting of 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of players, you know, for the reason that 217 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: we want to put out a great product, but also 218 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: we want to know who these people are. And when 219 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: you started, I mean, Traylan Burks was talked about just 220 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: among our group for quite a while. And as I said, 221 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, rhet said that was his crush in the draft, 222 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: and so he's got one guy that doesn't like him forever, 223 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: but that's he's kind of creepy, and well that's neither here, 224 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: and that's neither here nor there. And the end of 225 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: that story is Rhett did not leave the building when 226 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: it was over with the Socks. I will say that 227 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: Rhet left the socks. That what happened to the socks 228 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: not really sure. Yeah, I didn't want him. I mean 229 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: I appreciated the effort. But you know, the Packers took 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Christian Watson from North Dakota State in rounds three and 231 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Romeo Dubs in round five. But had that gotten out 232 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: to your point, might have been a whole different deal. 233 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: And everything starts changing too, because you've made the trade 234 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: for not only eighteen and you've gotten Treylan Burkes, but 235 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: suddenly you have one oh one in your pocket, so 236 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you have another second day pick, which you didn't have 237 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: at that point. Remember the Titans, we're going to go 238 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: from twenty six to ninety. You've still got twenty six. 239 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of speculation. The majority of 240 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: the mocks, I think correctly had the Titans picking an 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: offensive linemanute twenty six. But what has happened Kenyan Greene's 242 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: coming off the board at fifteen, Zion Johnson's coming off 243 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: the board at seventeen, Tyler Smith has come off the 244 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: board at twenty four, and then Tyler Lindenbaum has come 245 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: off the board at twenty five. So those offensive linemen 246 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: that fit that first group that sort of fits you, 247 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: they're out the window. There's a whole group of other 248 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: ones yet to come, and you're like, okay. So the 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: Jets are hot and heavy for Jermaine Johnson. They want 250 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: him badly, and they're willing to trade thirty five, the 251 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: third pick of Day two, sixty nine, which is an 252 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: early third round pick, and a five to you for 253 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: twenty six and one oh one, And if you do 254 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: the math on the chart, it's a pretty good deal 255 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: for both teams. But it's certainly solid compensation at that 256 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: moment and you're done on day one. You've laid that 257 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: out so well. But here's the reality of it. When 258 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: we went into this draft, we all sat there and 259 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: looked at it, and we've been in enough drafts that 260 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: we were looking the gap from twenty six to ninety. 261 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: There are a lot of players. There are a lot 262 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: of players. When we vetted over two hundred and fifty 263 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: players for this draft for you know, for Titans Radio, 264 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: you knew that there were quality players in that gap. 265 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: And so to close that gap, I think we all felt, 266 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: now we had no idea about the blockbuster trade, but 267 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: we've felt like at some point that John Robinson, because 268 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: he knows how to work a draft, and I say 269 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: work a draft, work the dynamics of what it takes 270 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: to be able to fill those gaps and still be 271 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: able to come out. And when you make trades, nobody 272 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: is trying to get over the top on somebody else 273 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: in a trade that's not going to happen, but trades 274 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: that are beneficial for both parties, then you can start 275 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: to work with some things. That's what he did, and 276 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: the Jets end up with three number one picks. Their call. 277 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: At this point, the Jets greatest first round ever. They're 278 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: all excited. Good for them, Good for them. We moved 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: to day two, and one of the areas that we 280 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: had been targeting on our sheets as those offensive lineman 281 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: came off the board for twenty six is corner. You're 282 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna draft a receiver in a corner every year in 283 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: today's market, you're gonna do it every year. If you 284 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: want a top level corner who's left on the board, Ratte, 285 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to go early in the second round. 286 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Guess what the Titans have an early second round pick 287 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: now and they take a player Roger mcquerry from Auburn, 288 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: who they might have taken at twenty six, but instead 289 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: they got to take it thirty five, which is huge value. 290 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: And you're talking about a young man. I enjoyed your 291 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: interview with him and that through the first two nights 292 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: of this whole thing. But he played against SEC wide 293 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: receivers and tight ends every week almost and so and listen, 294 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: there's a reason why it's sixteen straight drafts. The SEC 295 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: has had the most drafted players sixteen straight years. So 296 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: with that in mind, and not to mention, he seems 297 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: like a wonderful young man. Yes, you have to do 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: this here. Well, Roger McCreary was kind of in the 299 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: same I've seen it year after year after year. You 300 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: put the tape on and you go, this is a 301 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: very in phase, sticky, aggressive player that I want. And 302 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: then you start going and we start going through the 303 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: draft process, which is dissected in minutia now, and all 304 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, his arms are an inch and a 305 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: half too short for the model. All right, Well, you 306 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: watch and he's sticking his hand in the basket, knocking 307 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: it away, knocking it away. Knocking it away, doesn't matter 308 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: how long your arms are if you're not in phase 309 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: with the receiver. And so once we thought that the 310 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: defensive back and especially a corner was going to be 311 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: probably in that realm Mike, that was the part that 312 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: was so big was being able to have the third 313 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: pick the second day. Used to be you'd pick one 314 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: first rounds one, two, and three on the first day, 315 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: and the huge reset of everybody's boards well into the 316 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: night was the top of the fourth round. And you 317 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: will agree that Roger McCreary being a tight is a 318 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: direct result of the AJ Brown trade. That's one hundred 319 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: percent right. That's one hundred percent right. If the AJ 320 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Brown trade is not made, we're not even in position 321 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: to do any of that stuff. And so once you 322 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: get your board reset and you start to look, then 323 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: the top of that second round becomes again just like 324 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: the first day, the top of the first round with 325 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the players that are available. I really liked the way unfolded. 326 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: And so McCrary is famous. He's from Mobile, and he's 327 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: famous for eating two plates of beans with sugar, with 328 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: sugar on Fridays before Auburn's games. On Saturdays. He says 329 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: he will continue to do it in the NFL. When 330 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I visited with him at the Senior Bowl, he really 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: wants an endorsement from Bushes Beans. Of course, Bushes is 332 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: out of Knoxville. Yeah, Jay Bush, you and Duke, Yeah, 333 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: Duke the Dog make it happen. You and Duke have 334 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: got to make it happen. That's right with Roger McCrary. 335 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I've never had the pleasure of meeting Jay Bush. I've 336 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: driven by their corporate offices five times, and I've corporate 337 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: I showed you, Yeah, I showed you where it was. 338 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: But you've got Roger McCrary has to become a spokesperson 339 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: or at least has to get several free cases of 340 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: Bush's baked bee. That's so great. Chris Parnell, who we 341 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: all know very well that for years has been in 342 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: charge of food services there at the Tennessee Titans. Get 343 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: some bushes ready, get them, get them ready? All right, 344 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: So the Titans, if they don't make the A. J. 345 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Brown trade, they probably take a We're guessing now, and 346 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: this is revisionist history. If they only have twenty six 347 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: and ninety, they probably take McCrary at twenty six. So instead, 348 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: because they make the deal, they have trailing Burkes and 349 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: Roger McCrary together. But then they're gonna pick again at 350 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: six nine. Now let's flash back. You need an offensive lineman. 351 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: The first group that was kind of there is gone 352 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: by the time you pick at twenty six, so you 353 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: trade out. Well, there's another group of talented guys. This 354 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: was a deep offensive line group, Raett, would you agree? Yes, 355 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: it was, and not just at tackle, I mean positions 356 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: all along the line. And you knew going into round three, four, five, 357 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: on and forward you'd be able to find somebody. Nicholas 358 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: petit Frere and that's how you say it from Ohio State. 359 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: The tackle was there at sixty nine. The Titans had 360 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: had him in on a pre draft visit. He was 361 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: one of the first. He's a guy that they targeted, 362 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: that they spent a lot of time with, and they 363 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: grabbed him with the sixty ninth pick that they got 364 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: from the Jets. Another perfect fit. It's exactly a perfect fit, 365 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, for what they needed. I'll tell you, Mike, 366 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: the sixth city tour that the OTP did prior to 367 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the draft. You know, an ort. People listened, They heard 368 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: his name when it came time because we did two 369 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: positions day, two positions to stop is what we did, 370 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: and we talked extensively about this player being one of 371 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: those top echelon after that first group came through. So 372 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: when he was sitting there, we're all sitting there looking 373 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: and we're not making any picks, but we're making some 374 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty good guesses as if they go with this, this 375 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: guy is right at the top of the list. So 376 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: the Titans get Nicholas petit Frere offensive tackle Ohio State 377 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: at sixty nine. They're gonna go again at ninety. So 378 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: we're on Titans Radio. We're broadcasting Night to Live at 379 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium. The night is sort of winding down and 380 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: we're kind of waiting for the Titans to get there. 381 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: And then we get the word that the Titans have 382 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: traded up from ninety to eighty six with the Las 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. With the Las Vegas Raiders the Raiders first pick, 384 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: and they used the ninetieth pick to take Dylan Peram 385 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: from Memphis, an offensive lineman, really good player, good pick 386 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Yes, Raiders also took Matthew Butler from Tennessee. 387 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: Later defensively, I'm good pick for the Raiders, good for them, 388 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: But we're sitting here saying, okay, now what do they 389 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: wanted eighty six? Is this one of the tight ends? 390 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Is this another of the receivers? And then Rhett it 391 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: gets out with the people who tip picks that it's 392 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Malik Willis from Liberty. So we see this. Everybody in 393 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: the crowd who's on their phone is seeing this. We're 394 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: live on the radio, and we really aren't sure what 395 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: to do at this moment. Like the night before, to 396 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: the point that I said, golly well, that's all I 397 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: can say was it had not been confirmed by the 398 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: the The aj Brown trade had been confirmed to us 399 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: through the teams before the Schefter tweet went out. Yes, 400 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: so we had the two things there. We felt like 401 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: we could say that in a way, but this was 402 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: not confirmed at this moment. So it's out there all 403 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: over the place that the Titans have selected Malik Willis. 404 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: If you were listening to us on Titans Raid, we're 405 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: saying something big is about to happen, and I know 406 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're looking at the radio saying, Mike, 407 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: you jerk. Tell us It's like I don't want to 408 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: be wrong about this because that's gonna be a big deal. 409 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: Oh yes, And if it sounded like we were in bewilderment, 410 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: we were. We're in shock, yeah, because nobody thinks he's 411 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: still there. The Titans had never really been mentioned with him. 412 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there'd been speculation he was gonna go second 413 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: in the draft at one point. Desmond Ritter had been 414 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: picked forty picks before that. So coach, when they hate 415 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, now describe the reaction, let me describe. Let 416 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: me describe your narrative when you that it speaks to 417 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: your professionalism because you went through so many things, and 418 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: the look on your face when you said, the first 419 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: thing you came out of your mouth was something big 420 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: is about to happen. And then you said, I really 421 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: don't quite know what to say yet about this, but 422 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: believe me, this is going to be very, very impactful 423 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: for everybody. So I'm sitting there looking at you, going, 424 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how he can be that professional and 425 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: continue to keep his powder dry on something this big. 426 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: Because what you say is true, it had not been 427 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: confirmed yet, and so you can never put something out 428 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: like that. Now a lot of people would because you know, 429 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: anybody that wants to hot tweet anybody that anybody that 430 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: wants to but you're not that, And so just want 431 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Titans fans to be able to count on Titans Radio 432 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: for the truth, to give him the stuff. Yeah, the truth. 433 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: And if you're driving, I mean, I know why you're 434 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: listening to us on Friday nights. You're at somebody's baseball 435 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: or softball game, you're at a soccer game, an graduation party, 436 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: you're driving home from the mall, you're an over the 437 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: road trucker, and you're listening to us, and you know 438 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: this is what people are doing at that point. We 439 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: gotta be right about this one because it's as shocking 440 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: as what had happened to night before in my opinion, 441 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, like yeah, because it's a quarterback. It's a quarterback, 442 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: and it's this guy who the Good Lord has given 443 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: a lot of gifts, Brad Hopkins when we saw him 444 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and he says McNair too, McNair too. That's 445 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: how he says. I mean, that's how he describes him. Physically, coach. 446 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he does. I don't 447 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: know if he ever takes a snap, but there are 448 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: certainly some traits there that are awfully special. Well he was, 449 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: he was had the best physical traits of any quarterback 450 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: in this draft. When you talk about mobility, you talk 451 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: about arm strength, you talk about escapability, all of those 452 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: things are there. So now what you have is you 453 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: have a really, really good athlete that I don't know 454 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: the young man yet, we will get to know him. 455 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: But anything that you see in those interviews and anything 456 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: that you hear, this is a quality, quality person that 457 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: is Look, everybody that comes into the draft that is 458 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: taken low more than what the experts. And I'm making 459 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: air quotes with my fingers because there's so many hot 460 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: take experts surrounding this event. Today, They're gonna have a 461 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder. And I'm not talking about a 462 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: chip that is something that's bad. I'm talking about a 463 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: beneficial chip. This guy, this is I cannot wait to 464 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: be there at practice every day to watch him develop. 465 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: And this is gonna be This is gonna be fun. 466 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Everybody in that room. You talk about the first night 467 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: reaction in the room, everybody in that room, it was 468 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: elevated to attend immediately. I'm gonna step back one step 469 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: and go back to when we were waiting for the 470 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: announcement to be made. You even said, if what is 471 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: being reported as the pick here is the case, John 472 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Robinson is about to shock the world. And I'm like, yep, yeah, 473 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: I could say that I would agree with that. The 474 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: young man obviously deeply cemented in his faith seeing the 475 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: reaction when he got the phone call, and look, you know, guy, 476 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: you set it up when we talked about it the 477 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: other night when he was selected. A lot of talent 478 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: left in twenty twenty, which he had a really good year, 479 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought he didn't have as 480 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: good a year in twenty twenty one. And it's like, well, 481 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, where's the measuring stick there? Because he had 482 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: some pieces around him that were gone. He's got a 483 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: million dollars smile, just like Steve McNair. Sure hope he 484 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: isn't Steve McNair two point though, that'd be fantastic. So 485 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: we walk out of Nissan Stadium Friday night, and no 486 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: socks were thrown at us, No socks were thrown at us, 487 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: nothing was thrown at us. I still contend, even three 488 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: days later, that the point from which all of the 489 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: stuff hit about a J. Brown being traded to the 490 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: point at which Malik Willis was drafted is the wildest 491 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: twenty four hours I've spent in twenty four years with 492 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the club. And it was cemented by my wife the 493 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: next morning, I'm getting up to leave for draft Fest 494 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: and she she's got this look under faces. She reads 495 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: all the social media stuff. She said, it's funny. She goes, 496 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, everybody was ready to jump off a bridge, 497 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: and now everybody's more excited than they ever have been. 498 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: She goes, what is it with football fans? And that's 499 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: she's not a football person whatever, but somebody from the outside, 500 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: so to speak. Looking at it in that way gives 501 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: you an idea of the roller coaster that you ride 502 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: when you're a fan. That is so true, and that's 503 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: a hud. It is a roller coaster because you're invested emotionally, 504 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: you're invested emostly. And again, all of this stuff will 505 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: play itself out over the course of both of these 506 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: players career. All of these players are drafted over the 507 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: course of their career. But in the moment, I agree 508 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: with you, Mike. We rode some highs and lows, and 509 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: you can be as prepared as you want to be. 510 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: But for those two instances, just to run through that 511 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully the thing that I really like about it 512 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: is the fact that people that we're listening to us, 513 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: which I know a lot of them were, they at 514 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: least got the true essence of the magnitude of both moments. 515 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: The only thing that would come as a second to 516 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: this was in a much shorter span of time, when 517 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: you and Pat Ryan had just called the Music City Miracle, 518 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: Phil Luckett announces to the crowd that it's under review 519 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: and they hush over, the crowd goes and then it's 520 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: the play stands. That would be twenty four minutes were yeah, 521 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: and you're talking twenty four hours about twenty four hours, 522 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: and so yeah, the music it doesn't compare with the 523 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: day of the Music City Miracle in terms of the 524 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: end of that ball. But the roller coaster, Oh that's it. 525 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: It was just I mean, you know when you could 526 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: feel the emotion too, Mike, and you and I were 527 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: both at Draft Fast Saturday, which was an amazing event, 528 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: amazing events, so many fans there, and then you know, 529 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: had had the alumni players were up on the stage. 530 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: It's great. The energy of that whole group when you 531 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: start walking looking in and everybody's lined up to go 532 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and then there the field is 533 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: covered with people. Everybody is excited. They were so excited 534 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: about the draft well, and what had happened at that point. 535 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Obviously the Willis thing drafting a quarterback, drafting a high 536 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: profile guy. He had been the most talked about because 537 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: he was the biggest story of the draft picks. Kenny 538 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: Pickett was probably gonna be the first guy picked because 539 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: he's the safe guy. He's this but the story is 540 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. So people are caught up in that moment. 541 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: But what became obvious at draft Fest is the realization 542 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: of who Trailing Burks issue had started to catch fire, 543 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: and the common fan the draft Nick knew what a 544 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: prospect Trailing Burks was. Yes, a common fan saw him 545 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: come into the facility on Friday, They're like, who is 546 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: this big dude who handles himself so well? And then 547 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: they'd seen the highlight and they'd read the articles. By 548 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: the time he came on stage with me at draft 549 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Fest and was introduced to the crowd, it was phenomenal. 550 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: It was rock starish at that moment. And so you've 551 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: gotten McCrary, who's an SEC guy at Auburn. You've got 552 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Petit Frere who gave an impressive interview. You've you've got 553 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But then the first round pick. People are 554 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: starting to get amped about that, and so the initial 555 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: disappointment about the trade had certainly been muted for multiple 556 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: reasons at that point. Well, and that, to me is 557 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: so great. And that's that's what I sensed. You could sense, 558 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: you could sense the movement and the energy in the 559 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: crowd on Saturday being a complete flip and being like, hey, 560 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, right, this is really something good. This 561 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: is really something good. And then, as you say, when 562 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: he's on stage with you that reaction, there'll be more 563 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: of those. And then while this is going on, the 564 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: Titans literally, as I'm walking to the stage and I 565 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: want to pole adjusted to anybody at Draft Fest who 566 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: saw him beyond my phone, you know I was not 567 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I was not reading Facebook or look at can I 568 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: apologize too, because I was reading your phone too. So 569 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: we're watching So htt's here at the studio, we're at 570 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium and coach mc and are looking at the picks. 571 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: The Titans select Hassan Haskins running back Michigan at one 572 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: thirty one. I immediately asked, Rhett does coach mac like 573 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: Hassan Haskins, And I said yes, because we both read 574 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: a description of him, and guy's a workhorse. He's a hammer. Yeah, 575 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: he's a tough dude. Go ahead, he's a hammer. He's 576 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: a hammer. And here's the other thing is he's so dependable, 577 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and he's extremely extremely talented. And here's the other thing. 578 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Carrying the ball as many times as he did. You 579 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: close your eyes and tell me what you see. That's 580 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: how many fumbles he's had in his career. This guy's 581 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: the legitimate deal. This is a nice, nice piece to 582 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: this off. He did not miss a game in college, 583 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: had a high ankle sprain at the end of the 584 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: year that prohibited him from participating in the Senior Bowl 585 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: in the combine, so there was no measurables in terms 586 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: of that or I'm convinced he would have been taken 587 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: a little higher than what he was thirteen hundred and 588 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven yards rushing in twenty twenty one and broke 589 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: a fifty three year old Michigan football record with twenty 590 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. He was voted by his teammates as the 591 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: toughest dude on the team, so they get him. Haskins, 592 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: the running back from Michigan at one thirty one, Titans 593 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: picking twelve later, I think the final pick of the 594 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: fourth round. It was a compensa tour. That's correct. Correct 595 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: tight ends have come off the board down where bunches 596 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: of them he started on on tight ends. Chig, a 597 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: con quot tight end from Maryland is the pick at 598 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: one forty three. Not the biggest tight end, but the 599 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: Titans like him because he will block, He shows a 600 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: willingness and he has something else which is speed. The 601 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: fastest tight end at the combine four or five two legit. 602 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: You put the tape on at Maryland and you see 603 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: it runs away from people, can separate, can get away. 604 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Look I'm not I don't want to put anything on 605 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: this play, but this player is like what's coming into 606 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: the league as a tight end. He's going to be 607 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 1: a mismatch problem. And the other thing that he can 608 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: do in the open spaces, especially if people want to 609 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: play a lot of his own defense against this team, 610 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: which people are starting to play a lot of toshell 611 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: a lot of two high against it. He can run 612 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: away from people. I liked this pick and especially at 613 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: this point, this to me was the guy that was 614 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: standing out on our board. So two a Tonkavaloa's younger 615 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: brother as the quarterback in Maryland. He had a twelve 616 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: catch game last year against Penn State. And when you 617 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: look at his measurables, I see and I hear Delaney Walker, 618 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I see and I hear John hu Smith. He's that 619 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of rocked up physical ask and got that kind 620 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: of speed bingo. Well, we thought that Isaiah likely from 621 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina might be a target. There were other guys 622 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: that were in there. Isaiah likely ended up coming off 623 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the board just before the Titans made the selection. But 624 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: when you think about the group of tight end that 625 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee has, now Jeff Swain, who's kind of that just 626 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: good solid tight end, and then you got Austin Hooper, 627 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: who's another physical guy, better pass catcher than Swain, and 628 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: so you've got him. Well, now you take a guy 629 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: Tommy Hudson's on the team too, and he appears to 630 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: be a blocker. This is a different guy. It's a 631 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: different guy, and that's really what you want in your 632 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: tight end where you want that mix because you know 633 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: if you're going to play some multiple tight end sets 634 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, which is two tights you know in there, 635 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: and you want guys to be able to be multiple. 636 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: This guy can be a multiple piece for you. He 637 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: can also be on the move. He can be on 638 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: the move. You talk about its blocking, he can be 639 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: on the move and do plenty of good blocking, especially 640 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: on the edge. He's also a guy that you can 641 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: move and into the backfield to do a lot of 642 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: things with. This guy's a mismatch for linebackers, so you're 643 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do a lot of creative things 644 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: with him. Off of the play action, Titans go wide 645 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: receiver in the fifth round at one sixty three. Coach 646 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: Mac they take Kyle Phillips, wide receiver UCLA. There were 647 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: other options there. Why do you think Phillips was the 648 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: right option for the Titans as the second wide out 649 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: they took in this draft. He's a get open, quick 650 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: catch everything that you throw him, and he's also a returner. 651 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: This is it. When you read his stats, you read 652 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: what you did at UCLA and also also in the 653 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Pac twelve. This is a slot player. This is a 654 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: slot player, this is a movement player, and this is 655 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: a tremendous move the chains guy. He's an instant accelerator. 656 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't have elite long speed, but you've got to be 657 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: able to get away from people you know in close areas. 658 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: He's got tremendous feet and his hands are very, very sure, Mike. 659 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: He's the only receiver in the PAC twelve and twenty 660 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: twenty one with double digit touchdowns, seventy plus catches, ten touchdowns, 661 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: has a eighty two and a sixty nine yard punt 662 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: return for a touchdown in his college career. Two picks 663 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: in the sixth round. I want to start with the 664 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: second one at two nineteen. Okay, Chance Campbell, who played 665 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: at Maryland and then finished at Old Miss. What do 666 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: we know about this two two hundred thirty two pound linebacker. 667 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: He's a tackling machine, Mike. I'll tell you what I 668 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: know about it. Of course, I do this coach to 669 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: coach show that covers the Southeastern Conference for twenty weeks 670 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: with Doug Matthews. When Kentucky was getting ready to play 671 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: the balls, I put the tape on of Kentucky. He 672 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: is a Maryland transfer he came in. This guy is 673 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: all over the place as a tackler. This is what 674 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: he is. I coach linebackers in this league for a 675 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: long time. The one thing I always looked at on film. 676 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: I really wasn't so concerned about the straight line speed, 677 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: and what I wanted to see was what type of 678 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: GPS does he have to the ball when the ball 679 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: is snapped? What type of GPS? How can he get 680 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: ahead of blocks? And then how sure a tackler is 681 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: he on all different types of angle bases? This guy 682 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: is a tackler to me. This guy is an immediate 683 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: special team's contributor that will work into a role behind 684 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: the line. All right, then I want to take the 685 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: first sixth round pick is a backtrack at two oh 686 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: four THEO Jackson John Overton High School in Nashville, Tennessee, 687 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee volunteer listed as a safety. He played the star 688 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: position at Tennessee. And for anybody to understand how amazing 689 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: it is that THEO Jackson is a draft pick today 690 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: compared to where he was a year ago. What a 691 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: job by THEO Jackson. What a job by Willie Martinez 692 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: the secondary coach. What a job by Tim Banks, the 693 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They figured out how to use this guy right, 694 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: how to give him confidence, and he played outstanding football 695 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: for Tennessee last year as a versatile guy in the secondary. 696 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: I studied every Valls game this year in my role 697 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: with coach to coach with Doug Matthews. Week after week 698 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: after week, we would both say on the air, THEO. 699 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: Jackson's the best player on the field right now. Defensively, 700 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: THEO Jackson is the guy is stirring the pot right now. 701 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: THEO Jackson did this, and then you said the star position. 702 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: Let me say something for our OTP listeners. The star position, 703 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: which is Nick Saban's defense. Everybody in the SEC's playing it. Now. 704 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: You have to be so versatile, and you have to 705 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: be so mentally dialed in to so many things because 706 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: there are so many adjustments pre and post snap that 707 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: come with that position. Because that position is a safety, 708 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: it's a slot cover guy, it's a blitzer, it's somebody 709 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: that has to be able to read the center guard 710 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: triangle from a slot position. Because you're involved in the 711 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: run front. This has to be not only your most 712 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: versatile player, but your most mentally dialed in player. THEO 713 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: Jackson was all of this. I love this pick. There 714 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: were two players on that team, and there were valls 715 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: that were drafted this year five that made me extremely happy. 716 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: But two guys that jumped out if you really studied 717 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: them this year offensively, it was Vallis Jones Chicago Bear 718 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: now in the third round and THEO Jackson on defense. 719 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: I am so happy. It's a great story too. It's 720 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: a great story that he's a local guy, but it's 721 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: also even a better story that he's a really good player. 722 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: He's been to the san Stadium many many times. He's 723 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: a Titans fans that his uncle had a swede or 724 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: something and would go and would watch since he was 725 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: a little guy. And now he's gonna have a chance 726 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: to walk out of that tunnel with the pads at 727 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: a two tone blue on. It's awesome. Well, and there's 728 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation that he was specifically drafted to 729 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: have a chance to take Dame Crookshank's role in the 730 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: Big Nickel. The three safety package. Titans were in three 731 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: safeties thirteen percent of the defensive snaps a year ago. 732 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes you read the A plus B equals see 733 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: and you say, no, it's not exactly like that, but 734 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: I think this is. I think THEO Jackson has a 735 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: chance special teams where he has a chance to really 736 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: make his living from the start. But he's got an 737 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to work himself into a package because of his physicality. 738 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: Not saying it's gonna happen. The Titans signed a free 739 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: agent and Aj Moore who might be that guy. But 740 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: all you can ask for, and all Theo jack And 741 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: has ever really asked for, is a chance to compete. 742 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: And he's got some size to be able to do 743 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: those things. He's six nine guy and can tackle. And 744 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think this is. They brought 745 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: over the more guy from the Houston Texans who is 746 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: a core special teamer to do those things. But I 747 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: think he has a chance to replace Dan Crookshank, Mike. 748 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: I'll say it. That's what he was drafted for. This 749 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: is going to be a big nickel guy. And this 750 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: is what you're looking for when you're making sub packages 751 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: against various offensive sets and is this and it also 752 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: helps you so much, just like Dan Crookshank did at 753 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: times with game specific game plans versus opponents, this is 754 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: what he'll get a chance today. And that's why you 755 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: draft Roger McCurry too, because week a week in the NFL, 756 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: now you're using so many sub packages, you need various 757 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: chess pieces in the secondary. Alon Te Taylor goes in 758 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: the second round to the New Orleans Saints because he 759 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 1: is going to be another guy to Tennessee who's gonna 760 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: have a chance to be that sort of chess piece 761 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: that you can use in different ways. Absolutely, you're talking 762 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: about Lante Taylor. Now, they'll use him at corner, they'll 763 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: use him at safety, and he'll be an immediate gunner 764 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: on special teams. That's a three pronged player that you 765 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: can use. THEO Jackson, I'm I'm really really looking forward 766 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: to watching him develop. Here so deep breath after drafting. 767 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: I was taking a deep breath when he huddled us 768 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: all up on the first night. You know, again, as 769 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I said, I knew it wasn't just to say, hey guys, 770 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: I really am glad I'm here with you. Anytime you 771 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: huddle us up, there's something going on. I didn't know 772 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: Rhet was going to get a pair of socks out 773 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: of the deal, but I'm gonna get my THEO Jackson 774 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: socks now they have those at the pro shop yet 775 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: not yet, but yeah, but I'm sure they'll be coming. 776 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: Chack a conquo, man, I like to check a conquo. 777 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: I know that check a con quo socks. You know 778 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: Rhet will have Taylor Burke socks. I promise you. I 779 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: think John he already does. They walked in here with 780 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: a hoghead on. I was very surprised he's calling the 781 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: hog Hey, you're good in it. I think this is 782 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: a nice draft for John Robinson. I really do what 783 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: a weekend and to turn this thing from being seven 784 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: picks and a sixty four pick gap between one and 785 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: three into six offensive players and three defensive players, because 786 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, you've got a roster that's 787 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: tight on salary cap room. You need as many of 788 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: these guys to make your ball club as possible. And 789 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: you're not just you don't just need to make the 790 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: ball club. They need to be able to help the 791 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Titans. It really looks like they've got 792 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: several guys that can do that. Let me say something 793 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: else too. From being a lifetime coach in this league 794 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: at a lot of different levels and just doing it 795 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: all to be able to put together something like this 796 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: when you've also won twelve games a year before, and 797 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: I've had six winning seasons, when the draft process is 798 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: stacked against you because of where you're picking, to be 799 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: able to maneuver and manipulate a draft like this, this 800 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: just shows you again that John Robinson knows exactly what 801 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: he's doing. Look, it's it's hard to go from winning 802 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: four games to winning twelve games. It's much harder than 803 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: to navigate a twelve game win a six straight winning 804 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: seasons and continue to navigate the draft process that is 805 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: stacked for giving bad teams the best players on the 806 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: three days stretch. Rhett Brian, Dave McGinnis, thank you so much. 807 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: World history of this draft weekends of interesting stories. Can 808 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: I can I say this? I'm going to for our 809 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: our esteemed partner, Amy Well. I talked to Amy and 810 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: she is, of course lovely. Livy Lane has got a 811 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: beautiful daughter and she will be a wonderful mother. But 812 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: when I started telling her everything that went on after 813 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: that first night because I called her, she said, Mac, 814 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: you don't know how bad I wouldn't want to be 815 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: sitting at that table when that guy put those socks 816 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: down on the table and everything. So shout out to 817 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,800 Speaker 1: Amy Wells. When we were doing the thing at the 818 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Draft Fest, they put she and Josh Corey and Livy 819 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Lane on the big board. I thought it was a 820 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: great moment. It was great, beautiful picture, beautiful family were 821 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: happy for them. So for Amy Wells, for Rett Bryant, 822 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: for coach Dave McGinnis. I'm Mike Keith, thanking you all 823 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: for being with us, for the O team. People. Welcome 824 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: to the big show. Weather Matins called. Everybody knows it's 825 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: our house, fighting though Tennessee. Making us three greatness is