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Speaker 2: Uh, sh man, what's hand him?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: You got more Shawn be Small Lynch, Doug Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: And Gavin Newsome.

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Speaker 5: And you're listening to politics.

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Speaker 3: You know to be, you known to be.

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Speaker 5: We got Connie Nielsen coming up. Who's Marshawn? She's been

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Speaker 5: in all kinds of stuff, from The Devil's Advocate to

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Speaker 5: and she's the maybe I mean, if not the dominant

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Speaker 5: And she's a dear friend and remarkable philanthropist and someone

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Speaker 5: has been out front on gender equality and she's got

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Speaker 5: And so we're honored to have Connie Nielsen up next

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Speaker 4: Connie, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you that?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 6: You You are the hottest woman in town, in the

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Speaker 6: Well, I got my mind, Marshaun, shirt on, don't get,

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Speaker 6: don't forget, you don't eat your chicken, and uh.

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Speaker 4: I don't eat chick.

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Speaker 6: So we're all dressed down, Connie, But no, thanks for

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Speaker 1: Gab is as always like super well dressed.

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Speaker 5: I took my tie off for you. That shows my

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Speaker 3: So's my respect.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good.

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Speaker 5: Thank you by the way for joining us, because I

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Speaker 5: wasn't joking. You've been, I've seen, I've turned on. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: what the hell you're in Australia, You're you know, all

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Speaker 5: doesn't need any introduction, a movie that's so indelible in

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Speaker 5: our lives twenty four years ago. Uh and you had

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Speaker 5: you had a significant role then. But Connie, I was

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Speaker 5: sitting there with your son watching this movie. We just

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Speaker 5: told you this. I turned around. I'm like, I didn't know. Shot, Like,

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Speaker 5: you're like the one of the mate. You're you're not,

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Speaker 5: You're not just in the movie. You're like foundationally rushing

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Speaker 5: didn't give me any warning about that? But was that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, did you expect that role to grow

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny because you know, my memory

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Speaker 4: But was it? I mean, it is, I mean it is.

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Speaker 5: It's a remarkable movie because just the ability to take

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Speaker 4: Now in entertainment. But take me through when you're done.

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Speaker 6: It seems like that Gavin said, you've been on every

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Speaker 5: And I'm curious, Connie, just with you know, the experience

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Speaker 5: And twenty four years later you're a very different person.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think I used that precise take on

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Speaker 5: Watch that, Marshaan, were you familiar? I mean, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: But Connie, when did you come out to California? I

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Speaker 1: and you know, people working in the home being female

439
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: were misleading simply because anthropologists, you know, just assumed that

440
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Speaker 1: if they saw a sword in a grave, well, then

441
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: that was a male grave, and if they saw a

442
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: bowl in a gray, well, then that was a female grave.

443
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: But what this anthropologist then realized or like describes in

444
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: this book is no, in fact, you know, when these

445
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: new female anthropologists started like testing these graves, it turned

446
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: out that the DNA revealed that all the way up

447
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: to twenty percent of these graves were actually female warriors

448
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: in like places like Kazakhstan, Bulgaria and parts of Serbia,

449
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, where the Amazons that were considered mythical were

450
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: in fact not therefore mythical, and were in fact these

451
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: female warriors that really grabbed the imagination of the Greeks,

452
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: who were famous misogynists and who just could not even

453
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: bear to consider this idea that that these women were

454
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: warriors and able to you know, beat them in battle.

455
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: And so that was my inspiration for Hippolyta, the character

456
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: that I played in Wonder Woman. For me personally, as

457
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: I was I was, I kept in mind like this

458
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: one grave that I read about, which was like the

459
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: most famous grave, and it was a woman warrior. She

460
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: was covered in gold, gold plates, like as in her grave.

461
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: She was buried with her hunting dog, with her with

462
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: her hawk, her trade hawk you know that she used

463
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: for for hunting and and and seven horses and so

464
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: she must have been insanely rich at the time. And

465
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: uh and it just like could not get her out

466
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: of my mind, like this, that's a story that you

467
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: just never.

468
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: See national r and body for that role.

469
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: Well, that's who I sort of had in my mind. Yeah,

470
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: when I did that, all, yeah, you're right.

471
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: It as dope as fun, you know, Marshawn what's interesting.

472
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 5: And Connie, I appreciate you you because all that research

473
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: you do for these these parts, et cetera. And I

474
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: think that was something that really struck me as it

475
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 5: relates to the interviews you've been doing on the Gladiator

476
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 5: two tours. Your ability to iterate and engage, particularly with

477
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 5: a director like Ridley Scott who wants that and chooses individuals,

478
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: actors like yourself that are willing to express themselves and

479
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 5: are willing to sort of challenge some of those norms.

480
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 5: And I think for Marshawn, it's interesting just as you

481
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: start your acting career as well. You know what's that

482
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: I'm curious and this is a question for you, Connie,

483
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 5: but it's a consideration for you as well, Marshaan. At

484
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: what point do you have that confident that you can

485
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 5: move from the script and this job to more of

486
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 5: an expression and you know, take that risk that you

487
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: may you may get pushed back that we hired you

488
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: to do this role. Read your script, shut up versus Hey,

489
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: I'm a human being. I thought you hired me because

490
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: you wanted more than was just the written word. You

491
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: wanted me to bring something extra to this role. I mean,

492
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 5: was there a moment, Connie where you were like, I'm

493
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: going to move out of my shell after a third

494
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: film or sar Were you that way with Pacino and

495
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: you said, Hey, al, here's the way this character is

496
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: gonna work for me.

497
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: You know, my dad was a real tough cookie, and

498
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: so I learned to negotiate with tough guys since I

499
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: was a baby. Okay, I learned how to that. You know,

500
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: a no does not mean a know, it just means maybe.

501
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: Connie does not play Marshall. She's a tough, tough I love.

502
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 5: Doug's basically advantaging for that.

503
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just really believe that you can

504
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: negotiate anything, and especially if you're coming from a place

505
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: that is not an ego, but you're coming from a

506
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: place of passion and enjoy You're coming from a place

507
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: of wanting to share all of the discovery that you've

508
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: made in creating this character. And if you're not just

509
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: there because you're this narcissistic person who is like, oh,

510
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: it's my way or the highway, but if you're there

511
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: because you want to share ideas and ways to make

512
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: your character richer, that will benefit the film as long

513
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: as you're also listening for what is the other person

514
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: really trying to do anything. That's where working with someone

515
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: like with big and amazing directors like you know, Ridley,

516
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: like Patty, like Zach like you Just like with Zach,

517
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: I can, for example, say on Justice League, you know

518
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: there were ideas where in the script, you know, I

519
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: escape this uh, this collapsing, you know this collapsing place

520
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: where where it buries a lot of my my Amazons

521
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: inside it. And then off we are to the racist,

522
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, to get the mother box out of there.

523
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: And I said, Zach, you know, I really feel like

524
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's sad that she doesn't take a moment

525
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: to consider the lives that these Mamazons have sacrificed. And

526
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: so he set up this whole scene where I honor

527
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: that sacrifice, that loss for a moment, and it gave

528
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: a dimension to the film and to the character because

529
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: just a little thing like two seconds where you take

530
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: a moment to honor these swallen warriors. That was that

531
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: said a lot about the character and a lot about

532
00:30:59,040 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: the film.

533
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: Marshawn, you a little bit of it. I mean, you

534
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 5: and I know we've talked a little bit about this,

535
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: but you're you're Marshawn's first big movie. Connie was Bottoms

536
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 5: and ninety nine percent making this up. But Marshan, maybe

537
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: you can share. I mean, all most your lines are

538
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: just stuff you said, Hey, this is this is what

539
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 5: I think needs to be said, not necessarily what they

540
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: told me that I should say is that I mean,

541
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: is am I overstating that sort of a similar experience

542
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: a little bit, Connie.

543
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, can I just say I love

544
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: that film so much and you're awesome in it.

545
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, I say, I appreciate it. No, it was

546
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: just I mean for me is because I'm so green

547
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: in the space. It's kind of more so like I'm

548
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm to the point where it's like, all right, tell

549
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: me what it is that you're looking for, and then

550
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: if you give me an opportunity to, yeah, I mean

551
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: do me. I've just been uh blessed to where they

552
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: actually like, you know, when I do me, and then

553
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: if we can find a happy medium to where I

554
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: can give them, you know, I mean, uh, the few

555
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: things that they need, you know, I mean to drive

556
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: the film with the with the story and the concept

557
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: of everything. And I'm able to, you know, I mean

558
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: give them that and some of me and a good

559
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: mixture of it. So uh, you know that's kind of

560
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: you know, my thought process, because the thing is, I

561
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: never want to go into no position where I'm stepping

562
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: on nobody toes. So when they do give me the

563
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: actual opportunity to do me, I make sure make sure

564
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: I do all of me. And it's and it's been

565
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: working out, Uh, you know pretty well for me.

566
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 6: Well, the cool thing is Gavin. You know, Kanye and

567
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 6: mare shown are very similar. They both done it their way.

568
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 6: They're authentic, Uh, they're they're humble. They're not gonna like

569
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 6: Marshans to step on anybody's toes, but they're gonna have

570
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 6: their own mind and think and do it that way.

571
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: And Kanye, honestly, everything you've talked about in your life

572
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: is very similar how Morshaan's live his life. No one's

573
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 6: ever kind of told him, hey, this is your box,

574
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 6: stay in it. He's done his own thing and he's

575
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 6: whenever I had to do a contract for him, he said,

576
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: why is this the contract?

577
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: Why can't we get more? What about this?

578
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: He's always pushed to the higher limits, which is cool

579
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 6: as you guys are very similar that way.

580
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: But Kanye did have a question.

581
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 6: So if Morreshawn did have a great year in the NFL,

582
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 6: and you know he was a free agent, all these

583
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 6: teams to come calling and offering new stuff off of

584
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 6: this movie. Now is the phone ringing like crazy or

585
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 6: people calling and seeing what you did, because again, the

586
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: movie was absolutely phenomenal, Or is it now you're you're

587
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 6: looking at ten twenty different scripts of what you want

588
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: to do? Is how does it work in Hollywood? Is

589
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 6: that kind of on the heels of a movie like this?

590
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: So I am like, apparently I literally got a text

591
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: from my my agent like an hour goes in, You're

592
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: number three on IMDb, which is like apparently, you know,

593
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: determined by how many searches.

594
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 7: For your name?

595
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: Nice?

596
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so yes, I am reading scripts still, and

597
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm working a lot also on my own writing as well.

598
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: There I started producing and writing and I got my

599
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: first sort of own project done two years ago where

600
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: I described how Karen Blixen, who wrote Out of Africa,

601
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: how she became a writer. And I just was like

602
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: so excited and was really truly exciting to do my

603
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: own stuff, like things that I had come up with

604
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: the concept for and really wanted to to talk about.

605
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: And that kind of stuff is what I'm really hoping

606
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: to do more of now as well.

607
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: And no directing, Connie, I mean, as you ever had

608
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: the directing.

609
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Bug that my producer in Denmark would like me to

610
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: direct my next project. Yes, but we'll see. I get

611
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: one step at a time, and it's just like my Sean,

612
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: it's about being humble and and and also honoring the process,

613
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, and and I really so I feel like, yeah,

614
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: I would love that, But I also am aware of

615
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: how many much better directors than me that are out there,

616
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: and so if I, you know, if if the right

617
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: thing comes along for it, then I would love to

618
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: do it. I saw my old ass the other day

619
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: after my youngest had recommended it to me, and you know,

620
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: that's an actress who who has now made her second movie,

621
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: and that film is like unbelievably good and just uh,

622
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: it's inspiring when you see that stuff happen.

623
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: By the way, just in terms of your own, you know,

624
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: the sort of expansive career that you've had, are there.

625
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: I'm feeling more optimistic. I mean, it's interesting in the

626
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: last two years, sort of backing up, you've had these

627
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 5: sort of twin movies that have sort of broken through

628
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: and given you know, some you know, given new life

629
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: to quote unquote Hollywood obviously with Barbie last year and

630
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: now you and Wicked this year. But what are you

631
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 5: optimistic about your industry? Are you concerned about some of

632
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: the trend lines in the industry, the streaming side of

633
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: things versus the blockbuster over reliance on already well conceived

634
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: or well received movies and becoming derivative of those movies

635
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 5: or lack of original I mean what you're over under

636
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 5: in terms of your own you know, own perspective and

637
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 5: your own experience.

638
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean, my perspective is colored by the fact that

639
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: my great great grandparents had movie theaters. They had three

640
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: movie theater My great great grandmother built three movie theaters.

641
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: My great grandmother had built and operated one movie theater.

642
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: My great grandfather made his own comedy film movie. And

643
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: then my great grandmother stopped the her movie house in

644
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: the late sixties because this craze for bingo.

645
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: Uh, that's more Shawn's mother now about to say, what

646
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: kind of bengo like?

647
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Bingo like ravaged the movie theaters in the provinces of Denmark,

648
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden people weren't going to

649
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: the movie theater. They were going to bingo because they

650
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: could win a goose or something like that, you know,

651
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: if they wonted bingo.

652
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: I played Bengos for gooses.

653
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they played that you could win something and it

654
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: was yes, usually like a frozen something and so, but

655
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: then movie theaters just innovated, they made you know, it

656
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: went from being palaces at the time of my great grandparents,

657
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: and then they became smaller and they could put more

658
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: movies in the movie theaters, and then they also became

659
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: bigger and better sound, and now here in the Bay

660
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: Area there are plenty of them where you can have

661
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: dinner at the same time, you know. So I think

662
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: through innovasion, people will always figure out a way to

663
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: go to the movies because I think it has so

664
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: much in common with sports. You know, if you did

665
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: not have the people sitting there watching sports, it would

666
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: not be the same thing, you know, being a part

667
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: of it and participating in whether a story, whether it's

668
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: something that's played out on the field or or shown

669
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: on the big screen. You know, it's a communal experience.

670
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: And I just don't think that that will change, and

671
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: I don't want it to change, you know. For me,

672
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: in my mind, I trace it back through not just

673
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: through my family over the past hundred and fifteen years,

674
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: but also because that's one hundred and fifteen years since

675
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: my great grandparents opened their first movie theater. But I

676
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: traced my job all the way back to ancient Greece,

677
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: and probably before that, you know, where people sat in

678
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: huge arenas and watched plays. That's how I see it,

679
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: I think. And before that even we had itinerant storytellers

680
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: who would go from village to village and they would

681
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: sit around the fire with the village and the elders

682
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: and the children and everybody would listen to the story.

683
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: This is before reading. This storytelling goes back to the

684
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: cradle of humankind, and it is what tells us about

685
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: who we are and how to live and what's funny

686
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: about all of that too.

687
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Connor, let me ask a question you literally have.

688
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if it's one or two sons, but

689
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 6: that a famous obviously rockstar father and a rock star

690
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 6: actress mother. Are they falling any lead in the music

691
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: path or the entertainment path or both or neither.

692
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: So, my oldest son, Sebastian was a hip hop producer

693
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: for more than fifteen sixteen years, and the music industry

694
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: during that time just changed so much. And I do

695
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: want to say this publicly the way that and I

696
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: say this also to a legislator, the way that all

697
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: of the money is amassing at the very top of

698
00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: that food chain meaning in the distribution access meaning stream

699
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: of the music. H is quite literally killing talent, uh

700
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: and making them go away for music because they don't

701
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: know how to monetize it anymore. A very few people

702
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: can monetize it. Right now, my two middle sons, Miles

703
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: and Lane have an incredible band TYPEI Houston. They're touring.

704
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: They are unbelievably talented and given, and they make incredible music.

705
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see if they can figure out

706
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: how to monetize this thing. If not, they too, were

707
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna goat it.

708
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: We know somebody can. Can you fix it?

709
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Gather?

710
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 4: This is this is part of the show.

711
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: Something's gotta that's for sure. You can't. You can't have

712
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: to have one hundred thousands streams before you can afford

713
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: to buy a coffee. I mean, and I think it's

714
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: even worse.

715
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 6: Actually no, but Gavin, that's true. Let me snoop talking

716
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 6: that before with us. How do we fix that?

717
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 4: Gavin? Honestly, let's get this one.

718
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Connie, you're adjacent to the answer,

719
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: which is Lars was out front on this decades ago.

720
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: He was Yeah, it was like and do you know

721
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: how much shit he took for that, like it was

722
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: like people that like sent him death threats for telling

723
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: the truth.

724
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: No, I mean he was literally on the forefront, right

725
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 5: on the edge. Sean Parker Knapster, I mean that was

726
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: that was the game changing stuff.

727
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: No, So it's so yeah, I'm the last guy the

729
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 5: answer to that question. I just call Lars and get

730
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: the answer and then just.

731
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: So now I think that the answer is that we

732
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: have to go back to like making sure that Paola

733
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: is not repeating itself. That's what I think.

734
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of that. You're just calling that

735
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 5: straight out.

736
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: I like it.

737
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, absolutely. I'm not in the music business, so

738
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: I really don't care.

739
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: But it goes to Doug's question, though you're you, I mean,

740
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: I love it because a lot of parents don't want

741
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: necessarily the experience is the negative side of fame and

742
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: the experience of celebrity and and you know the trials

743
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 5: and errors, you know, I mean, it's a tough business

744
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: in terms of ego. Uh, you know, you're up, you're down,

745
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 5: et cetera. But you you you embrace, you want you

746
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: want them to follow their passion, your kids, and you're

747
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 5: not trying to say don't get into acting. Don't become musicians.

748
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: Uh just you know, I mean you're you're not in that,

749
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 5: You're not in that.

750
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Space, absolutely not. I think I really believe that the

751
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: passion that each one of us has is so important.

752
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's for sports or music or whatever

753
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: it is. For me, if they were interested in uh,

754
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, math or science, I would be just as happy.

755
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: But ultimately, all I my job is to just tell

756
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: them go with your heart. To just go with your heart,

757
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: because I believe in that so much.

758
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: I love it.

759
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: But don't go to Hollywood necessarily.

760
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: You know, they can go to Hollywood. Three of them

761
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: lived in La so when you know, yeah, so they go,

762
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: they went there.

763
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 6: So what can I macconnie. I mean, you seem very

764
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 6: happy in a great spot. And I've known you a while,

765
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 6: but you just seem very happy and you should be.

766
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 6: Obviously your life's phenomenal. But you see, and what do

767
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 6: you do outside of this business? I mean you do

768
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: a lot of you know, yoga, meditation.

769
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 5: Talk about tenth anniversary or nonprofit as well, and also

770
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 5: finding that passionate purpose.

771
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: So we just celebrated the tenth anniversary of the opening

772
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: of a community slash Municipal Services Center that we created

773
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: in the slum of Kibera, which is the biggest slum

774
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: in East Africa. And you know, we started the project

775
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: back in twenty ten and to watch over, you know,

776
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: the progress this passion project has taken over these past

777
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: fourteen years and ten years of the center, it's remarkable.

778
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, we collected thirty people, young people from all

779
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: of these differing tribes living in this slam who two

780
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: years prior had been trying to kill each other over

781
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: electoral issues in Kenya and told them, you know, everyone

782
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: here is equal, just as many men as women. Always

783
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: make sure you have one from each team, one from

784
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: each gender, and so on your team's talk about DEI.

785
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: We were doing DEI fourteen years ago and it worked.

786
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: And you know, our center became a place of peace

787
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: and of progress and a place where anyone who won

788
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: to get a skill sets and education had, get a loan,

789
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: start a business, go on the internet, take a bath,

790
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: use the bathrooms, and bring home clean water. All of

791
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: that is available to you. And you know, if you're

792
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: living in a place where you don't have running water

793
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: or access to electricity, all of a sudden, you know,

794
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: finding a job becomes extremely difficult because how are people

795
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: going to get in contact with you? How are you

796
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: even going to propose yourself to a job if you

797
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: haven't had a shower, or if you don't know how

798
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: to write an application a job application, and if you

799
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: don't have skills for any job. And so we built

800
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: those and we can now look back and say, you know,

801
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people have benefited from clean water,

802
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and thousands of people have built businesses and lives and

803
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: income livable income through these services. And for that, I

804
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: feel like this enormous gratitude is just for me that

805
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: we've been able to just come up with a simple thing,

806
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: which is make these services available for people in one

807
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: spot where they will not waste any time or have

808
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: any difficulty finding all of these services under one group roof.

809
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: That is awesome and people.

810
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: Will do the rest. People will do the rest, you know.

811
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: And I think we should take this concept and make

812
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: it available everywhere in the mart in the United States

813
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: as well.

814
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 6: Well. It's funny, Connie, you know Marshawn when he graduated

815
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 6: from cal when e'ven in the NFL, he started a

816
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 6: fan First foundation in Oakland and they have a youth

817
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: center in Oakland and they do similar stuff where they

818
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 6: have a kind of a one stop shop where kids

819
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: can get off the streets and and you know, job

820
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 6: training and just you know, if they need to get

821
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 6: away from and get counseling or whatever it may be.

822
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 6: More shutting can touch more monet But it's been an

823
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 6: incredible foundation they've done for the last nineteen twenty years.

824
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 3: You said where over Africa, It's.

825
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: In Nairobi, but you're so right, my Sean. In the

826
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: center of Nairobi, it's like a slum there called Kibera,

827
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: and like hundreds of thousands of people living there, and honestly,

828
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: there are so many unincorporated you know, communities just I

829
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: think in the United States that could benefit from a

830
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: sort of like micro you know, municipal center that provides

831
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, all of these services, because these are just services.

832
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not you know, I know that in America a

833
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, anything that is services based

834
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: is seen almost as if it were socialism. But these

835
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: services help change people's lives and make it empowers them

836
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: for change.

837
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: When you're agreed, Marshaan, Yeah, that's interesting because maybe ten

838
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: years ago in Nairobi as well, but we went and

839
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: put a fresh water system out there. That was one

840
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: of my first international projects that we did on behalf

841
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 2: of our foundation.

842
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 3: But as you was talking about it, I just looked up.

843
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: On my phone the the pictures and everything. And we

844
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 2: went out there and to a village that they took

845
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: me on.

846
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 3: This uh, this mother walk.

847
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: So they took me on a mother walk with you know,

848
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: all of the women from the.

849
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 3: Village who actually take care of everything.

850
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 2: You know, the husbands go out, you know, and work

851
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: could be from you know what I mean monthson.

852
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: At a time.

853
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: And before we actually went to the water system, I

854
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: got to see like what it was like as like a.

855
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: Day and of life.

856
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: And I mean we walked from the village to the

857
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: to the water hole where I mean everybody came here.

858
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: And when I say everybody, I mean that the animals,

859
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: the people from the village like and it was almost

860
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: like a neutral spot where everybody called the truths like,

861
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the animals come in, they get their water.

862
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: The mothers walked there.

863
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: It was probably like a half a mile and they

864
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: say they maybe make that walk maybe like ten to

865
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: fifteen times a day just to be able to have

866
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: water and shit. So before they actually took me to

867
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: the system, this was like, this is what we have

868
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: to do in order to get you know what I mean,

869
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: our water, and then we have to boil it, I

870
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: mean to sterilize it and do that. So when we

871
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: go to the actual water system where you know, it

872
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: was maybe like three or four fountains, you know, the

873
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: big water tower, and I'm just like, okay, this this

874
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: is a pretty convenient.

875
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: This is pretty nice. But you know what I mean

876
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: when you start speaking of the services.

877
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: That you, you know, you're able to provide for these individuals,

878
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: just fact that how appreciative and the gratitude that they

879
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: should just to go to a place where they can

880
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: actually get fresh water, and you know they talk about

881
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, I mean the like how much time it

882
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: cuts out I mean by just having it I mean

883
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: accessible like this, and what that meant for the for

884
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: the community out there that that was that was huge.

885
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I mean how.

886
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: Much work you still do over there, but that's something

887
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: that I mean I would like to look into, and

888
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean if there's opportunity, I mean to go over

889
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: and see, you know what you got going on we'll.

890
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: Come to come with me in January. We're going to

891
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: the center in January and we're going to go with

892
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: with other people as well. The center is completely self

893
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: run by the community members. And when you go to

894
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: the center, you have both our own well, we have

895
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: our own solar system, we have our own water bottling plant. Now,

896
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: we have we have a eighty computers for IT training

897
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: so that people can get jobs and just in a

898
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: three month course people can access it jobs at a

899
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: low level that you know brings them seven times up

900
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: in wages just from the first just from the first

901
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: month of work, and within six months, you know, they're

902
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: able to radically change the income for the rest of

903
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: their family.

904
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: In additions that can.

905
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: Also have our own bank that was started by our

906
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: own people. Now has a loan nut that has grown

907
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: organically of more than four hundred thousand dollars and they

908
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: only they take a very low interest rate. That's how

909
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: we grew it very very low, so that people can

910
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: forward it. We have both a MENI MBA class every

911
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: summer for entrepreneurs. We have, as I said, lots of

912
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: IT class, but we also have a music and film

913
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: studio where people can learn how to become videographers photographers.

914
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: We do a course with Nikon, so we have like

915
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: all of these different areas that people can use, and

916
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: then we have you know, twenty toilets and showers for

917
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: men and women and and so you kind of have

918
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: like this whole sort of like every aspect of how

919
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: to get ready for a job.

920
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: That's there.

921
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: Congratulations, man, this is unbelievable.

922
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: You've done?

923
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 5: Do you and I doing for a living?

924
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: Buddy?

925
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, listening to these two.

926
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 3: I had a lot of time.

927
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: Uh I was over it for like two or three weeks,

928
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: and I got to like I said, I did the

929
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: mother walks and then you know the from the other

930
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: side of that. Uh I was with a group Masi

931
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: Warriors and they were you know what I mean, kind

932
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: of telling us like, oh, yeah, this is how you know,

933
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: you do your crossover and you become a.

934
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: Man like you gotta go out and uh I actually.

935
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: Got some of the uh some of the tools and

936
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna call them weapons, We're gonna call them

937
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: tools that they that they equipped the youth with to

938
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: go out like that with that. Yeah, yeah, I got

939
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: that motherfucker city right next to my bed at the house.

940
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: It's incredible. I have one too, you.

941
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

942
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: But they you know what I mean, they took me

943
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: through the whole process, like you know, I mean, got me, uh,

944
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: got me suited up.

945
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Kneel and wait for the lions, and.

946
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: Then a whole little process.

947
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 6: I may need this politically, by the way, this might

948
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 6: be glighted at three Marshawn might be glighted.

949
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: A man, you say, a lion like while we're speaking

950
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: right now, But then when you see one actually in

951
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: the wild, like yeah, I mean that motherfucker a little

952
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: bit different than the lines that you see at the zoo.

953
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, this is a little

954
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: different process. But uh, you know the time that I

955
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: was out there, you know, I mean I really got

956
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: to learn a lot, you know, with the village that

957
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: I was in. But during the Massa war here, like

958
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: they took us on a on a took us on

959
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: a trail, you know, I mean, it showed us like, okay,

960
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: this where the lions at. Don't walk that way you

961
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: get too close to their cubs. They I mean, the

962
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: whole process, you.

963
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: Know about the conservancy thing that they're doing. They're no

964
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: longer killing the.

965
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: Lions right right.

966
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: But the thing is they put me through this course

967
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: and then they give me these two us and they're like,

968
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: come on, let's go on a walk. And then at

969
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: this time it's like, all right, well we showed you

970
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: what to do if anything.

971
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: Is to happen.

972
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: Nah, you know what, take me back to the to

973
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 2: the village where you know what I mean, you got

974
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: real MISSI warriors who really know how to.

975
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: Handle this ship.

976
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: And then just take pictures and then show me that way,

977
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: I could say, like, you know, I was there because

978
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I don't really the animals

979
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: in the wildlife and you.

980
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, you know I wasn't really, I

981
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: wasn't really for that.

982
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: You haven't done the Safarian experience where you.

983
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: Go out no, I said, I started, Yeah, I started

984
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: until I seen like how real it was, and I'm like, nah,

985
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: it ain't no, it ain't no gates, it ain't no

986
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: like visionary lines and nothing is. More so like we

987
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: have a level of respect here. You respect, you know,

988
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, what they got going on, and they respect

989
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: what we got going on. You just don't cross that line.

990
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: The thing is, I don't see these lines. There's no

991
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, no course, so they're saying, don't

992
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: cross this line, and I'm like, well, there's no line

993
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: here to cross. So you mean to tell you if

994
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: I just stepped out of place. Yeah, I'm gonna go back.

995
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: But I got I got renamed out there. They gave

996
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: me a name, kit Rap. It was around the time

997
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: that kit Rop had won the eight hundred in the Olympics.

998
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: So and I'm, you know, trying to get an understanding

999
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 2: of my name and they tell me it's like rain Man,

1000
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, rain Man, Okay, it makes sense because

1001
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: I had brought the fresh water system there and so

1002
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: the name kind of went together. But it was a

1003
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: it was a it was a great experience, you know.

1004
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: And then I had worked with a company that you know,

1005
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: got me out there to put all this together. So

1006
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, as well as like I said,

1007
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: if it's something opportunity, I mean, to put something together

1008
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: while you're going, Marshaun.

1009
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: And you're so welcome to come with us, Absolutely happy

1010
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: to do it again. And this time I'll drag you

1011
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: with me on a walking on a walk about come on.

1012
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: You got your own tools, I do, But I got

1013
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: the thing is I got I got too much respect

1014
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: for you. I mean the animals and their kingdom, and

1015
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: I understand that this is this is their kingdom. I've

1016
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: got no problem with, you know, watching from Afar or

1017
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 2: looking at the pictures with individuals who are brave enough

1018
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: to put themselves in that type of predicament.

1019
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 3: I'm just not that one.

1020
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 4: So Gavin, here's the deal, Gavin.

1021
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 6: You've got a couple things in your agenda, a few

1022
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 6: of more things, Gavin, but you got to fix the

1023
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 6: music business for Connie's sons.

1024
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: I got it.

1025
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 6: And then we have to implement I think I think

1026
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 6: we're in the former committee today of Connie and Marshawn

1027
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 6: to implement another center or center in the US, right Connie,

1028
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: can we can we take that model and expound upon.

1029
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Oak mixed services available to everybody.

1030
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: Toddy, He'll be there with you.

1031
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: He'll be got some people that you know, can get

1032
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: some things offline more so, just like dates and everything.

1033
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: Definitely, let's do it.

1034
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: So we, like Doug was telling me, we got a

1035
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: foundation in the community center in Oakland. Who I mean

1036
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: between me, my cousin, Josh and Marcus, individuals who also

1037
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: played in the league that I think I met them.

1038
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: I think I met them at one of Dougs, like

1039
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: one time with Doug.

1040
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, probably probably, probably so, but uh, you know,

1041
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: I tend to bring them with us when we go

1042
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: to these uh to these other countries and do these things.

1043
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: And then I mean, you know, it's just something that

1044
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: you know, we got into, uh that I really like.

1045
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 2: And then along with the water system that we did

1046
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: out in Kenya, we did another project, well I did

1047
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: another project with a teammate of mine who's from Haiti,

1048
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: and we went and kind of.

1049
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: And his his his whole.

1050
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Situation is more like, uh, what you did where you know,

1051
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: we we built schools, uh bill housing as well as

1052
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: the the fresh water project, so you know that was

1053
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: more so like a bigger thing for me. But I

1054
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: mean we've done these and you know, I'm trying to

1055
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: do it, you know, I mean all around the world.

1056
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: Just I mean, just but what we did and bring

1057
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: those resources to those other places. So yeah, I'm not

1058
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: sure you know how we go about, you know, hooking

1059
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: that up, but that'll be something that really interesting and

1060
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: well we'll.

1061
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: Set it up. I'm We're I'm really good at getting

1062
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: that stuff done very quickly.

1063
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 6: So Connie is the is the Gladiator? Then is the

1064
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 6: press workut kind of done now? Is this kind of

1065
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 6: the end of it or is it still going the

1066
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 6: next few weeks.

1067
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: We've got a few things still to do coming up

1068
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: next week. Uh. And also I don't know, like there's

1069
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: just a we have the San Francisco Film Festival going

1070
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: on right now. There was wonderful dinner last night with

1071
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: Steve McQueen, the filmmaker who is in town. He spoke

1072
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: just mentioning San Francisco Film Festival so that people can

1073
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: go out and buy tickets and support your local film festival. Please,

1074
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: and Gavin, thank you so much for making these tax

1075
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: rebates for our industry so we can keep this industry

1076
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: and it's incredible talent here in California, especially all of

1077
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: our incredible crew members who otherwise get short changed for

1078
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: crew members in other corners of the world simply because

1079
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: of a tax rebate, and that allows crew members to

1080
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: keep their families here in California as well. So I

1081
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: just want to say kudos to you for doing that.

1082
01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: That's really, really, really important. But Steve McQueen at dinner

1083
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: last night spoke, I asked him to talk just a

1084
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: little bit about this incredible film that I don't if

1085
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: you guys saw it. It was one of his first

1086
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: films called Hunger UH and it's about the hunger strike

1087
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: of the Irish prisoners UH in Ireland. And it was

1088
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: just like really amazing, an amazing thing that he spoke about.

1089
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: And I asked him what it was about that film

1090
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Speaker 1: that he wanted to that had sort of like guided

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Speaker 1: his uh he's thinking, and he said, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the things that people who have no power, even

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Speaker 1: children can do, is to refuse, to refuse. And I

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Speaker 1: was just like that was the whole point of his film,

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Speaker 1: like to show the power of refusal, simply refusing. And

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Speaker 1: I just thought that was such a pretty and and

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Speaker 1: and beautiful image that that he that he brought up

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Speaker 1: when it was and it was an incredible film as well.

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Speaker 3: So I love it.

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Speaker 5: Love it reminds me of Hobbl's piece The Power of

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Speaker 5: the Powerless. Yes, it's sort of the same same some

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Speaker 5: principles which I love.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 6: My Christmas wish wish gis Guy Gavin is to see

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Speaker 6: a collaboration with Marshawn and Connie on the film at

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Speaker 6: some point coming up in the next few years and.

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Speaker 5: See if he can audition for Gladiator three. Clearly you

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Speaker 5: should be pushing him for that. Start start working out, Marshawn,

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Speaker 5: you need to work out. You know, Denzel's guy, he's

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Speaker 5: he's seventy. You know, you could be Denzel's son or something.

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Speaker 5: And Gladiator four.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give away the film. I don't

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Speaker 1: sure you watch The Governor, did you want?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to say anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about I'm

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Speaker 5: just it's all. I'm just, yeah, speculating, you know, it's all.

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Speaker 6: That would be word plot, that'd be a interesting plot,

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Speaker 6: that would be a little confusing.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of you know, it's

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Speaker 5: it's Hollywood. It's not Hollywood. It's it's you know, make believe.

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Speaker 5: It's what I look Connie. Nothing, nothing about you is

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Speaker 5: make believe. You're the real deal. I'm grateful, We're all

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Speaker 5: grateful you join us today. Congratulations on another uh successful

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Speaker 5: tour around the world. Congrats on everything you're doing outside

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Speaker 5: of the day job as it relates to the big screen,

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Speaker 5: and and thank you for your integrity and your friendship.

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Speaker 5: And thanks for your contributions overseas, not just across our

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Speaker 5: country and the state, and I'm looking forward to comparing

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Speaker 5: your notes between Marshaan and yourself. When you guys finished

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Speaker 5: that walk about in Nairobi, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Hey, oh yeah, I appreciate it, young lady. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Connie, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: You're you're unbelievable and I've always admired you and love

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Speaker 6: what you're doing and uh, you got great things are funny,

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Speaker 6: so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Have a great holiday season, thanks so much, and