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Speaker 4: We all have those moments.

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Speaker 2: We've all punched somebody in the neck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, have you not?

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: There's a short list of people that I would actually

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Speaker 2: punch in the neck, and I would go for it

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I'm talking like I would collapse trichy

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Speaker 2: a thumb out, Like I'm okay to break my own

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Speaker 2: thumb if it really gets up in there and does

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Speaker 2: some damage. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Next question, I gots so violent.

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Speaker 4: More, More, Better.

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Speaker 3: Or Better?

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Speaker 1: Hi seventy, I'm so excited to be talking to you again.

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Speaker 1: And I'm apologies. I'm on vacation right now, so I'm

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Speaker 1: doing this on my iPad and I can't figure out

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Speaker 1: how to make the mic work. So this is this

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Speaker 1: is what you're getting. This is vacation Melissa in my

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Speaker 1: mom's friend's house because there's no screaming children here.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to More Better a podcast?

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Speaker 2: What what voice are we doing?

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 1: But it's kind of we're u in the Star Wars universe.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I would love to be in the Star Wars universe. Listen,

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Speaker 2: if you guys are listening, I don't know who's listening

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Speaker 2: to this that has any power over there? But Melissa

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Speaker 2: and I are very interested.

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Speaker 1: Where ready. We won't complain about being in the makeup

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Speaker 1: chair to nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 2: No uncomfortable costume, holding a sword for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Lightsaber. Excuse me, excuse me, lightsaber, lightsaber.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, if any of you guys have any of that power,

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Speaker 2: we're listening. Uh, this podcast is now about Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: This this be more better at Star Wars.

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Speaker 4: But Jephany and Melissa, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: It runs for one episode because everyone tunes out because

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Speaker 2: they're like, they don't know anything about the universe.

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Speaker 4: They've already changed the channel. They're not here anymore.

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Speaker 2: Change the channel. Wow, oh god, that made me sound

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Speaker 2: wow channel. You know, my sister is telling me the

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Speaker 2: other day she heard a little boy ross is taking

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Speaker 2: an art class, and a little boy in the art

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Speaker 2: class say we're gonna go home and watch blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah on Peacock on Peacock, and she was like, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. He knew, he knew Peacock. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, because like when the TV turns on,

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Speaker 2: when you changed the provider there, it goes like up

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Speaker 2: on the screen, you know, just training the children like

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Speaker 2: And by the way, feel free to tune into Twisted

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Speaker 2: Mettle season two. It is only on Peacock. That was

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Speaker 2: not an ad. It just really it was a great

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Speaker 2: moment for me to but yes, truly it's just weird too.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch season two.

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time that Enzo saw like commercials

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Speaker 4: He was like and he was like, what this bullshit?

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Speaker 2: We used to live for them.

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Speaker 1: It's a commercial. See they're telling you about this new toy.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, No, I used to live Surprise Surprise,

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Speaker 6: Pupper Surprise. How many puff uppies are They're inside suppress

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Speaker 6: Suppressed Puppy Surprise.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we can't get the rights to that. You'll

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Speaker 2: It was like you could get I feel like we're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cabbage Patch dolls, yeah girls. My mom

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Speaker 4: wouldn't let me have them because she said they were ugly.

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Speaker 2: They were ugly.

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Speaker 1: She was like, why do you want that ugly baby?

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Speaker 2: My god, they were ugly, but I had a little

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Speaker 2: I had a little Latina one that had like brown skin,

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Speaker 2: Yeah she was bald, but she was cute. She was

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Speaker 2: one of those premies. Anyway, guys, welcome to More Better,

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Speaker 2: a podcast about toys from the eighties. Ah, we are

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Speaker 2: off the rails if you didn't know.

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Speaker 1: That's most of a maryl and that's Stephane Beatrice.

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Speaker 2: And this is we're I think we're a little off

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Speaker 2: the rails because we're gonna do a little male episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's also going to be all over the

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Speaker 1: place like we are right now. More Better.

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Speaker 2: We have been keeping up with all of your emails

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Speaker 2: and messages and stuff, and thank you guys so much,

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Speaker 2: especially for the nice reviews, the nice comments. It really

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Speaker 2: helps us a lot. So today we're gonna answer some

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Roles that changed you from Annabelle. I feel like this

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Speaker 1: is a voice note, is it?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I love the podcast. I just wanted to

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Speaker 7: share how Brooklyn nine nine basically unlocked my bisexual awakening.

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Speaker 7: It started, you know, when my roommate knew I was

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Speaker 7: going through hard times and she suggested that we watch

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Speaker 7: her comfort show together, which is Brooklyn nine nine. And

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Speaker 7: at first I was just like, oh, this this show

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Speaker 7: is goret It's like witty, it's fun, it's a feel

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Speaker 7: good show. And then as I got to know the

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Speaker 7: Like I've known I'm queer for a while, but like

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Speaker 7: it even better is like seeing Stephanie talk so openly

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Speaker 7: about her bisexuality in real life. That kind of representation

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Speaker 7: like all sounds super sappy and maybe cliche, but I

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Speaker 7: just wanted to thank you. And I guess my question

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Speaker 7: a positive way? I mean, I think there's definitely a

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Speaker 7: multitude of negative influences the media has on people. So

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Speaker 7: I was like wondering if you could reflect characters that

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Speaker 7: made you feel represented and validated and the importance of

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Speaker 7: that in the work you do. Yeah, and just as

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Speaker 7: a side note, after coming out as by to my roommate,

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Speaker 7: we have put together a queer altar in our home

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Speaker 7: that includes a bisexual oil painting of Rosa Diaz. It

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Speaker 7: sounds weirder than it is, but just look at the photo, bye,

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Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds weirder than it is. It sounds

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Speaker 2: weirder than it is. It's not weird.

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Speaker 1: It's so cute and it's so cute.

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Speaker 4: Also, this really, whoever did this painting of you? Is

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Speaker 4: really great.

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Speaker 2: Good, that's good. There was the little life flag there.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Annabel, thanks for saying that. And you know,

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Speaker 2: don't know, loving the show and loving what we did

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Speaker 2: all those many seasons, and it means a lot to us,

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Speaker 2: you know. I we never ever ever take it for

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Speaker 2: granted that people still really appreciate that show and how

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Speaker 2: much joy it brings to people, and how comforted they

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Speaker 2: know us because of it. It's really a special relationship

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Speaker 2: I think that we have with people that love Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for that. I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: like I like in terms of like watching stuff like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I have that one in common. The

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Speaker 1: whoever gets to do that is a big deal totally,

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Speaker 1: how Annabel said, like it gave me permission to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, not have to be so lady like, not

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Speaker 4: I could be crass, I could be sarcastic, I could

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Speaker 1: It just was like there were in the same as

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Speaker 1: you were saying watching Elane on Seinfeld, like things that

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Speaker 1: you feel being undone.

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Speaker 4: Or unworked in your head.

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Speaker 1: You know that it's like, oh I don't have to

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Speaker 1: be a certain way right that it just feels impactful. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Daphnie Rubin Vego was another one for me, like

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Speaker 2: like yeah, she definitely was like oh my god, Like

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Speaker 2: her voice doesn't sound like yeah, every other I mean,

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Speaker 2: her voice is incredible, super powerful, definitely incredibly distinct, like

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Speaker 2: that that's not going to make or break out unless

439
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: you like, you know, punch somebody in the neck or something.

440
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: So like it's okay, it's okay. You know, there's like

441
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: a it's like parenting yourself a little bit, Like yeah,

442
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: even insecurities, it's like.

443
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: Howbody, it's okay, It's okay.

444
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like even if you mess up and say something dumb, like,

445
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: it's okay. Like most people aren't looking at that, and

446
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: if they are, they're not looking at it for very long,

447
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: you know, Like so you have a pimple, Okay, yep,

448
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: that sucks. I mean this we're talking about, like, you know,

449
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: our own insecurities or whatever, and like listen, like uh,

450
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: gret Jan said, acne is a big struggle. It can

451
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 2: be really really intense. But like in general, past insecurities,

452
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: how do you I get more better at dealing with them?

453
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: It's like what Melissa said, trying to be aware, really

454
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: trying to tune into like the awareness of like what's

455
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: this about? Why am I all? Why am I freaking out?

456
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: You know? And if I know what it's about telling

457
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: myself like you can do this, you can you can

458
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: handle this. You're not going to punch anybody in the

459
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: neck unless they mouth off.

460
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's usually a moment for like right,

461
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: like a some type of affirmation like and just being

462
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: really kind to yourself and like, yeah, giving yourself space

463
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: to be Like I.

464
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Speaker 4: Mean, we all, fuck, we all have those moments.

465
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: We've all punched somebody in the neck.

466
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you not?

467
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: I would punch I would There's a short list of

468
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: people that I would actually punch in the neck, and

469
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: I would like, oh yeah, like I'm talking like I.

470
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: Would collapse, trickya.

471
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: Thumb out, like I'm okay with my mom if it

472
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: really gets up in there and does some damage anyway,

473
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 2: next question.

474
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: I gots so violent?

475
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Speaker 1: Hi, Sevanie, Melissa. I wanted to write to let you

476
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: know how much the Heartbreak episode helped me. Oh that

477
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: was a that was a deep one. I'm currently going

478
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: through a divorce, and even though it's the right thing

479
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: for us and our daughter, I feel I still feel

480
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: sadness at the loss of what we had, especially the

481
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: marriage being twelve years and the relationship being fourteen. We're

482
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: still friends and co parent very well and doing things together,

483
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: such as attending indiecar races with our daughter when we

484
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: did like we did when we were married. Is this true?

485
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: We are continuing these this year, starting in May, because

486
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: we want our daughter to know that we are still

487
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: a team, even if it looks different now.

488
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: Good for you. That's amazing. Even though this is probably

489
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: the best case.

490
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: Scenario for a divorce, it's still hard, especially when important

491
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: dates come up or events that we would ordinarily go

492
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: to together we now do alone. In October, I went

493
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: to a family reunion and was binging episodes on the

494
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: way there. This was the first event with my extended

495
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: family I was going to alone, and the first time

496
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: I told my family about the divorce besides my parents

497
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: and sister. I was feeling a lot of conflicting emotions

498
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: the whole weekend, and then started thinking and starting about

499
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: starting over in life. I listened to the Heartbreak episode

500
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: on my way home and started to cry because what

501
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: you were saying was exactly how I had been feeling

502
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: about my situation. You helped me realize the way I

503
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: was feeling was normal and valid. When a relationship that

504
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: was important ends, I feel seen. I just want to

505
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: thank you for helping me see that.

506
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 4: Ben.

507
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ben, I barely got through reading that

508
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: I started why.

509
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm so thank you so much for writing in and

510
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: like sharing that with us. That's really vulnerable and honest

511
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: and nice of you. To take the time to do that.

512
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: That's really lovely.

513
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm really happy for.

514
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: You and your partner that you found a path forward

515
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, good for You're going to be so

516
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: good for your daughter, and I think good for the

517
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: both of you. But it's incredibly hard to do. And

518
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: so just like, pat yourself on the back and let

519
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: yourself feel proud about that.

520
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 4: That's you're being very.

521
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Adult and mature and evolved approaching it as a team,

522
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: and so braba, it looks it's us, all of it.

523
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: It's too hard, it's not. It's yeah, but we're sending

524
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: you up to love. Yeah, all right, the next one

525
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: before I start crying, Okay.

526
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Speaker 2: Hi, Stephanie, Melissa. I just wanted to say I'm a

527
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: huge fan of both of you, Brooklyn nine nine. It

528
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: has been such a comfort and inspiration in my life.

529
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask your perspective on something. I'm in

530
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: my early twenties and for a long time I've had

531
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,239
Speaker 2: a specific goal in mind for my future, something I've

532
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: worked hard for and tied a lot of my identity to.

533
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: But lately, as I've grown and changed, I'm finding I

534
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: might want something different. Feels like there's this pressure to

535
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 2: stay committed to the path I chose years ago, as

536
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: of changing my mind means I've failed. Either of you

537
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: experienced something like that, wanting something new after chasing a

538
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: dream for so long? How do you navigate those feelings

539
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: and make peace with your shifting direction. Thanks so much

540
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: for taking the time to read this, sending love and gratitude.

541
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm excited to continue to see your new projects as

542
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: they released. Thanks Vanessa, Love Vanessa, and sheered a little

543
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: emoji hearts. Love an emoji heart.

544
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Speaker 1: Vanessa in your early twenties, girl, not your mind. Not

545
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: to discount you, but not to discount but you.

546
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: Know, as as a quick Taale, I will say, I

547
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: never ever thought that I would be a person who

548
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: got married or had children. I was pretty dead set

549
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: on I'm you know not I'm. I could be single,

550
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: I could be partnered up, but I don't want anybody's

551
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: finances tied to my own. And I want the freedom

552
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 2: of a life that I choose for myself and nobody else's.

553
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: You know, nothing is, nothing is dependent on me, and

554
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm doing whatever I want to do. And I changed

555
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: my mind. I had a goal and for my life,

556
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: and I I tied a lot of my identity to

557
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: being like I'm gonna not have kids and and and

558
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: that's fine like for some people. But I changed my mind,

559
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: and I changed it pretty late, and I was really

560
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: scared about like how it was going to affect my career,

561
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: how it was going to affect my relationship, how's going

562
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: to affect my friendships, how was gonna affect my body,

563
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: I was going to affect my brain, and how I

564
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: was going to affect the person the new person. But

565
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I would say go for it, like I mean, if

566
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: you really are feeling that strongly about it, Like what

567
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: does Mary Oliver say? This is your one beautiful life.

568
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up the quote you talk melissa'm'na look

569
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: up this quote.

570
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

571
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Speaker 1: I mean I think any age, any stage in life,

572
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: if we feel that pull towards something. And I understand

573
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: the like identity part because this is not the same.

574
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: But I in my early twenties, I was like, I

575
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: am a New Yorker. I will never leave New York.

576
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: New York is my identity. New York, New Jersey is

577
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: my identity. This is where I grew up, This is

578
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: where I belong, This is where I'll be till the

579
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: end of my days.

580
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: And I had a whole I was like, I'm I'm

581
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: going to work in theater. I'm going to teach at

582
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: some point. Maybe I'm going to like teach it at college.

583
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: Like I had a whole idea of myself.

584
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I was like, every time I saw those little older

585
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: biddies at the theater, I was like, that's going to

586
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: be me, with my giant jewelry and my flowy shirts

587
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: and my comfortable shoes, still getting to a thousand steps

588
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: a day.

589
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: This is going to be me.

590
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: And then we up and moved and then I started

591
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: working in television, which was took me away from theater

592
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: and it couldn't get theater auditions anymore.

593
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: And then we moved to LA and I kind of

594
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: went kicking and screaming. But then.

595
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: Like all these amazing things happened and this like whole

596
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: new chapter of my life started And my kids are

597
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: Angela little Angelino's and I love my life like and

598
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: I love La and like especially recently seeing the city

599
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of stand up and.

600
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: I've been so proud of it. And so.

601
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Even though I still feel like such an East Coast

602
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: girl in a lot of ways and not like you know,

603
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: a real like la person like I love. What I'm

604
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: trying to say is like, eventually, if if you stay

605
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: open and if you move with change, only good can

606
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: come of it. If you stay stuck, especially if you

607
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: feel pulled towards something else. Yeah, because out of obligation

608
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: or because this is who I am, or this is

609
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: how people know me, because I have to achieve.

610
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: I have to achieve.

611
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: I have to achieve. Who cares.

612
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of just like walking down a

613
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: hallway and just like shutting all the other doors and

614
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: windows and just like continually walk to like this one

615
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: door even though you have no idea what's behind that door,

616
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, as opposed to like just

617
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: opening all the doors and seeing what's behind them. And

618
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: so you're just I think, shutting off opportunity. You're you're

619
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: shutting off surprises, You're shutting off and you know, And

620
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I only brought up the age thing because it's like

621
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: this is the time to like try shit out, try

622
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: it out. This thing that's like calling you try it out.

623
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out, you can change your mind again.

624
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: You can change your mind a million times. You can

625
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: keep changing your mind. I still change my mind.

626
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean at this point when I'm, you know,

627
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: in my eighties, I do believe I will be getting

628
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 2: botox in my forehead. But I could change my mind

629
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: there in the retirement home. I might be like, no,

630
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: I don't care.

631
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: I okay.

632
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: So that quote that I was going to say. The

633
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: poem is from the Summer Day by Mary Oliver. Have

634
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: you ever read it, Melsa, No, you've probably heard the

635
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: end of it. It's pretty sure.

636
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: Okay, who made who?

637
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: This is not a poem reading this is not a

638
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: poetry slam. I'm going to go through this. I'm not

639
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: going to act at you, guys. I'm just going to

640
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: say the words boom, who made the world, Who made

641
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 2: the swan and the black bear? Who made the grasshopper?

642
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: This grasshopper, I mean, the one who's flung herself out

643
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: of the grass, the one who is eating sugar out

644
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: of my hand, who's moving her jaws back and forth

645
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: instead of up and down, who is gazing around with

646
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: her enormous and complicated eyes. Now she lifts her pale

647
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: forearms and thoroughly washes her face. Now she snaps her

648
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: wings open and floats away. I don't know exactly what

649
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: a prayer is. I do know how to pay attention,

650
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: how to fall down into the grass, how to kneel

651
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: down in the grass, how to be idle and blessed,

652
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: how to stroll through the fields, which is what I've

653
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: been doing all day. Tell me what else should I

654
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: have done? Doesn't everything die at last and too soon?

655
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: Tell me what is it you plan to do with

656
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: your one wild and precious life.

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 2: I love that you don't have to like run towards

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Speaker 2: this thing of those gold this thing whatever. She's just like,

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Speaker 2: bro Like, I joke about it all the time, and

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, we're all to die someday. And that

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Speaker 2: is my very like nihilistic sort of like. But it's

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Speaker 2: not because this is it.

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Speaker 5: This is the this is it.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're doing something that you're like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna be a whatever. I've been watching a

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Speaker 2: lot of sex in the city, so I'm like pr

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Speaker 2: Samantha Jones. PR been working to be a pr mamen

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Speaker 2: your whole life, and now suddenly you want to be

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Speaker 2: a gardener. Okay, obviously there's logistic, but go be a gardener,

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Speaker 2: even if you have to do it, like in your

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Speaker 2: hobby time like coke, do whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: It's life is too short, life is too unpredictable. Life

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Speaker 4: is too precious. Yes, if you have a calling, if

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Speaker 4: you have something you want to do or explore, fucking

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. This is gossip, but do you

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Speaker 2: want to hear so it's related?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay, so so excited, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like you know, oh, okay, I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out how to say this in a way where like

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Speaker 2: no one will find out who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: But okay.

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Speaker 2: There was a very high profile couple that had a

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Speaker 2: very large wedding and professed a lot of their It's

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Speaker 2: like it's like it was like such a big show

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Speaker 2: of like we love each other so much, we love

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Speaker 2: each other, we love each other, we love each other,

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Speaker 2: we love each other. And then they met a divorce

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Speaker 2: and like part of me thinks, like was there a

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Speaker 2: point where they were like part of me knows that

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Speaker 2: there was a point where like this is actually like

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to relate it to somebody I know

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Speaker 2: who said to me, he's like an old friend and

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Speaker 2: he was like when she was walking down the aisle

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Speaker 2: like not but his wife or his ex wife X

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Speaker 2: when she was walking down the aisle, he was like,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, this is a mistake. And he went through

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Speaker 2: with it, and like I guess, like I get it

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Speaker 2: into like you know.

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Speaker 1: Very getting like on the day when there's like like

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Speaker 1: ribes vibes.

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Speaker 2: Did you not know it beforehand?

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Speaker 1: Like you did?

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Speaker 2: You probably did maybe like hit really hard that day

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like I just know it and all the

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Speaker 4: mornings before when we woke.

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Speaker 2: Up, we're gonna do stay married to that person like forever,

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Speaker 2: like we're gonna do like this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway is says good luck, good luck on that edit.

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Speaker 2: You could just sleep it all in. It's fine, more better, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what did we learned today, Melissa? Besides my inside gossip

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Speaker 2: about what did we learn today? Melissa?

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Speaker 4: Uh, well, we learned.

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Speaker 2: I'm never going to get cast in one of our movies.

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Speaker 2: It's fine.

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Speaker 4: What did we learn?

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Speaker 1: We learned? We learned that we have awesome, amazing fans

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Speaker 1: to write very lovely voice notes and emails to us

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Speaker 1: and very sweet and selfishly personally, my ego needed all

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Speaker 1: those compliments today, So thank you, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like these.

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Speaker 1: I like these mail bag little episodes. I think we're

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Speaker 1: going to do more of them this season. That's what

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Speaker 1: I We're to do more of these this season because

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Speaker 1: they're fun.

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Speaker 2: They're fun, they're really fun, and like they let us

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Speaker 2: know what you guys are like really connecting to and

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Speaker 2: also what you're interested in. Yeah, and they just make

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Speaker 2: us feel like we're getting to know you guys. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's nice, So keith those coming. Also, please send us

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Speaker 2: a voice note, send us.

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Speaker 1: An email, because we're going to do more of these

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Speaker 1: episodes where we go through a bunch of messages as

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Speaker 1: many as we can and send us topic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't forget to rate, review and subscribe, Rate

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Speaker 2: review and subscribe.

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Speaker 1: It really helps us rate review and subscribe.

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Speaker 2: MELSA, Do you feel a little more better?

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Speaker 4: I always feel more and better? Do you feel more better?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I need a snack, but other than

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Speaker 2: though I need too Pretty great? Yeah, great, I'll say

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Speaker 2: next next time, see.

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Speaker 4: You next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye, bye, more and more better.

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Speaker 2: Do you have something you'd like to be more better

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Speaker 2: at that you want us to talk about in a

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Speaker 2: future episode? Can you relate to our struggles or have

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Speaker 2: you tried one of our tips and tricks. Shoot us

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Speaker 2: your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at gmail dot

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Speaker 2: com and include a voice note if you want to

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Speaker 2: be featured on the pod. Ooh, More Better with Stephanie

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Speaker 2: Melissa is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Mikudura

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Speaker 2: podcast network, hosted by Me, Steffie Beatrice, and Melissa Fumero.

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Speaker 2: More Better is produced by ISIS Madrid and Sophie Spencer Zagos.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Stephanie Beatrice, myself, Melissa Fumero alone

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Speaker 2: with Wilmar Valderrama and Leo Clem at w V Sound

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Speaker 2: and ISIS Madrid. This episode was edited by ISIS Madrid

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Speaker 2: and engineered by Sean Tracy and features original music by

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Speaker 2: Madison Davenport and Hello Boy. Our cover art is by

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Speaker 2: Vincent Remis and photography by David Abolos. For more podcasts

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Speaker 2: from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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Speaker 2: you listen to your favorite shows. See you next week's

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Speaker 2: buck Us. Bye