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Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week,

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Speaker 1: in the holy and the unholy. I'm talking about your

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Speaker 1: get to your stories, your emails. You know, I get

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Speaker 1: And I was just listening to you on Coast to

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Speaker 1: it says over the last ten years, I've dealt with

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Oh gosh, I I am so thrilled

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi

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Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network. I have Brian Niffle and we

453
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Speaker 1: are speaking about some of his very cool projects that

454
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Speaker 1: all surround around the paranormal. I don't think that's a mistake.

455
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Brian is truly a paranormal enthusiast that you know, not

456
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: only working behind the scenes, but is absolutely involved in

457
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Speaker 1: presenting unique information for the rest of us to decipher.

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Speaker 1: And I love it. I mean, when you do doing

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Speaker 1: this kind of work, do you feel as if you

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Speaker 1: are kind of doing a service to the population of

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Speaker 1: this planet? Because how else would we learn these things?

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Speaker 1: I mean we're very visual people, right, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I mean I've I've never thought

464
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Speaker 1: about my work as a as a service to others,

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00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: but I mean I can definitely see it that way.

466
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Speaker 1: Just in that um, there's definitely an appetite for for exploration.

467
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's as clear as can be. People,

468
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: even people who are skeptical have questions and okay, well,

469
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: if if aliens aren't real, then why have why have

470
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Speaker 1: why has the government gone to such lengths to sort of, uh,

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00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, suppress evidence that that kind of stuff. So,

472
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, even from from the most hardcore believer to

473
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Speaker 1: the the most staunch skeptic, I think people want to

474
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Speaker 1: know what the ideas are that are out there, what

475
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: people have experienced, and sort of how it factors in

476
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: to to their own existence. So so yeah, I mean

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00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: I guess that in in a in an indirect way,

478
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 1: it's it's some kind of service, But you know, for me,

479
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: it's just getting to get out there and explore myself

480
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: and and to tell interesting stories, you know through TV. Oh,

481
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: I think this is like the final frontier for us all.

482
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so like you said, it's like finding

483
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Speaker 1: answers is fun. But I seem to find that a

484
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Speaker 1: lot of people, nine times out of ten, they've had

485
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Speaker 1: something questionable happen in their life that makes them wonder

486
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: about so many various topics instead of questioning their eyeballs.

487
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Speaker 1: I I get I've had thousands of emails from around

488
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Speaker 1: the globe, and uh, people are like, you know, I

489
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. I'm like,

490
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: those are the same eyeballs you used to drive back

491
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Speaker 1: and forth to work every day. You know. People are

492
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: starting to trust something is up and they'll question it,

493
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's kind of kind of cool. I

494
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: think it's a great service and and a fun one

495
00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: to tom potentially answer some of these these forever ponderings

496
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Speaker 1: that we have. So you've been involved in another very cool,

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Speaker 1: very recent project, Alaska Killer big Foot. Can you tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about it. Yes, So, so the

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Speaker 1: show is on Discovery Plus, that's the Discovery streaming platform. UM.

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Speaker 1: It's called Alaskan Killer Bigfoot and it it follows, it

501
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: follows five guys that that are, you know, members of

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Speaker 1: a of a Native American village in in Alaska, not

503
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Speaker 1: far from from the city of homer And and these

504
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Speaker 1: folks are the descendants of people who lived in in

505
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Speaker 1: the abandoned village of port lock Um. Port Lock is

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Speaker 1: on the Kenai Peninsula in Alaska, and in n Um,

507
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, there were there were somewhere around three people

508
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Speaker 1: living and working there and a series a series of

509
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Speaker 1: unexplained murders happened, and bodies were washing up in the

510
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Speaker 1: in the lagoon, is in the rivers on on the

511
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Speaker 1: shores Um. And the folks in port lock just had

512
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Speaker 1: enough and they were afraid for their lives, so they

513
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Speaker 1: just packed up and left Um. And the Native people

514
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: swore up and down that those murders were caused by

515
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Speaker 1: by what they called nantina, and Nantina is the word

516
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: in their language for bigfoot. So yeah, so they left

517
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: that town completely abandoned it in nineteen forty nine, and

518
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: no one had been back to settle since and so

519
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: they they resettled in a village called nan Wallack, which

520
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: is again up by Homer, and some of the village

521
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: elders have grown concerned that, uh, their little village is

522
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: basically bursting at the seams. They've got too many people,

523
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: not enough economic opportunity, and they wanted to explore the

524
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Speaker 1: possibility of resettling uh this village of port Lock that

525
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: they still own. It's private, private land owned by that

526
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Speaker 1: that Native corporation. Um, so they they basically charged these

527
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Speaker 1: five guys with going to port Lock and and finding

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00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: out if Nantina is still there, and if so, are

529
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Speaker 1: they able to to resettle safely and and sort of

530
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Speaker 1: either banish this Bigfoot creature or or find a way

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Speaker 1: to coexist with it. Yikes. Um, those are some brave people,

532
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: because yeah, without a doubt, Yeah, because I have heard

533
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: of a lot of folks just ending up missing, I

534
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: mean missing for one one. I mean they're suspecting Bigfoot

535
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: being behind some of it. It's like there's a predator obviously,

536
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: and and here bodies are washing ashore. I mean, I

537
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: just can't even imagine. Were there I witness accounts that

538
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: were described Yeah, and a lot of this stuff is

539
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: written up in newspapers far and wide. Um. So I

540
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: don't know how much you know what you know about Alaska,

541
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: but because of the vastness of it, getting a a

542
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: police or a military response to do anything it takes

543
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: a long time. So um. Even now, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're in one of these bush villages in Alaska and

545
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: and there's a murder or an assault or something, the

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Speaker 1: police might not show up for for three or four

547
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: or five days. So you imagine in the forties that

548
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: that that timeline is is elongated quite a bit. So

549
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: when these people were turning up dead, they weren't getting

550
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Speaker 1: authorities to come and do real investigations. All they knew

551
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: was that every time somebody went into the woods, they

552
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: turned up debt, and people were seeing they were seeing Bigfoot.

553
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: They were hearing big Foot's whistles and howls. Um. And

554
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, they made the connection that, you know, people

555
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Speaker 1: who went out hunting or or did things to um

556
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: to sort of capitalize on natural resources, those are the

557
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: people most vulnerable to attack. So it's an inexact science,

558
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: but they they blamed those deaths on Bigfoot, and a

559
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of these things were retroactively written about in the papers,

560
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: and we we actually explored a lot of those docu

561
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: many cases on the show. That is horrifying stuff. Now

562
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: this is an ongoing investigation still, so we we wrapped

563
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: up season once we were we were permitted to be

564
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: out there by the village elders for forty days, So

565
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: that was what they told us, go down there for

566
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: forty days, you know, try to map out what's left

567
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: to the old town and try to sort of start

568
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: thinking about what a new town might look like, and

569
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Speaker 1: and find out if it's even possible, because if if

570
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Speaker 1: there's still a murderous big Foot type creature on the loose,

571
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Speaker 1: then then this is not an option for us. Oh

572
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: my gosh. Yeah, I can't imagine, you know, I believe

573
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Speaker 1: it or not. Personally, I've had a couple of run

574
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: ins with something because they'd like to throw boulders, not rocks,

575
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: but boulders. I'm like, I was going on a little

576
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: tour of somebody's property and that said they had a

577
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: family of big foot and if we get too close

578
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: to the babies, they might throw a rock or two.

579
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm just laughing. A boulder was chucked

580
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: at me. I have no idea where it came from,

581
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: just nuts. So that happened to us out there. And

582
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and admittedly I'm I am not a big foot expert.

583
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I certainly know more now than I than I did

584
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: when I started this project. But um, we were lucky

585
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: enough to have the help of Ron Moorehead, who's very

586
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: well respected in the in the big foot field. He

587
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: actually came out and investigated a couple of sites with us,

588
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: and you know, while we were kind of giving him

589
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: the tour and showing him stuff that we had found,

590
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: he told us about the rock throwing thing. He goes, oh, yeah,

591
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: if you if you piss these things off, they're gonna

592
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: throw basketball size rocks at you. And sure enough, a

593
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: day later, we're doing an experiment and they well we

594
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: didn't see it come out of anything's hands, but a

595
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: big old rock landed really close to us. Isn't that

596
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: something I would imagine? They have better aim and they

597
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: were just being nice. It's like a warning shot. Yeah,

598
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: But then that was like the warning shot, and then

599
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: we we kind of kept working and you know, I

600
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: don't really know how much time had passed because you know,

601
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: a few days later they the guys were sleeping in

602
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: their tent, the main the main cast members, and had

603
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of gigantic rocks hit the side of their

604
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: tent and knock it over. That is unbelievable. Yeah, they

605
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: got lucky enough not to be seriously hurt by it.

606
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: But I mean the rocks that were sitting by that

607
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: had been that uh apparently hit the tent were huge.

608
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Like I picked him up and carried him around, and

609
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: I can't I can't imagine being able to throw one

610
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: of these things more than five ft, you know, with

611
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: two hands, right, It's it's amazing. It's like and until

612
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: you get that warning, you don't really think, like really,

613
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: come on, rock would be thrown at me, Like you know,

614
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll see it coming. No, So yeah, no,

615
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I I feel Yeah, that's uh, that's a bit horrifying.

616
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: I mean, did you feel in danger any other point

617
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: during this filming? And that was probably the most danger

618
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: that I felt. I mean, that was that was caused

619
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: for enough, you know, internal meetings like hey, do you

620
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: guys want to stay out here? Because the last thing

621
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: I want is for somebody to get hurt. But yes,

622
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: so I had to say, like if you guys want

623
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: to want to call it and go back early, we

624
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: we can. But um, you know, thankfully the both cast

625
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: and crew like, no, we we have to see this

626
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: through and make it to the end. I hope that

627
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: was in the show, because that's a serious conversation I

628
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: have right there. You know what it's not and it's

629
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: and it's because it was. For me, it was a

630
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: little bit too real, you know what I mean, Like

631
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: it is. I wanted people to be able to be

632
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: honest and not not feel like they had to say

633
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: anything for camera. So um, so I did not film

634
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: that part of it. I got you well, yeah, you know,

635
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: in conclusion with the whole Bigfoot conversation, I mean, it

636
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: almost seems to be a creature that is of this

637
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: world and of another world. I mean, did you get

638
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: that feeling that it might be an interdimensional type. That's

639
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: sort of the only thing that makes sense to me, um.

640
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: And the reason is because we found I would say,

641
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Speaker 1: ten pretty compelling footprints, um, in separate parts of the forest,

642
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Speaker 1: and then they and then they just vanish and we

643
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: we you know, do the sort of spiral technique where

644
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: you walk outward in a spiral pattern to try to

645
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: find any evidence of where something large could have either

646
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: move sideways or gone up a tree and jumped down

647
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: somewhere else, like you, you know, trying to figure it out.

648
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Speaker 1: But we would just see these footprints randomly and not

649
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Speaker 1: be able to follow them anywhere meaningful. Um. We did

650
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: find what we think is is bigfoot scat um, so

651
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: that that sort of lends itself to the terrestrial side

652
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Speaker 1: of things. But the fact that the things we're seen

653
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Speaker 1: and heard and and sort of evidence exists, but then

654
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Speaker 1: the physical thing keeps avoiding us, that is just wild. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with

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Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast am para normal podcast network. And I have

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Speaker 1: Brian here and we are talking about his awesome programs

691
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Speaker 1: and he is the guy behind Dead Files and Alaskan

692
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: Killer Bigfoot, and we're talking about some of your really

693
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: awesome adventures. I do share what what else have you

694
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: encountered in filming these programs. I can tell you that,

695
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: you know, doing over a hundred fifty episodes of Dead

696
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Speaker 1: Files and spending you know, weeks in the Unto Basin

697
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: near Skinwalker Ranch and Blind program like those are some

698
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: crazy experiences. But there's there's nothing like port Lock, Alaska.

699
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I've I've never experienced any place as strangely active as

700
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: their um. And the one thing that that is in

701
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: the show that people can go see. We didn't experiment

702
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: with Ron moorehead the sort of he wouldn't call himself

703
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: a Bigfoot expert, but from my perspective, he's he's an

704
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: expert UM. He brought a giant speaker with him. So

705
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Ron's claimed to fame is that he was able to

706
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: take a bunch of recordings of a family of bigfoot

707
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: in the California wilderness. So he's got the largest library

708
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: of recorded Bigfoot sounds. And he brought a giant speaker

709
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: with him to port Lock so that we could basically

710
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: use these sounds as a call to try to reel

711
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: in um bigfoot creatures effectively. And so we set up

712
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: the speaker at the edge of the woods and we

713
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: played a bunch of these sounds that he had recorded,

714
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: and I had never experienced any thing like this. The

715
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: forest came alive, and every sound you can imagine came back. Um.

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00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, we heard whistling that's typically associated with bigfoot.

717
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: We heard howling that's typically associated with big foot. We

718
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: heard growling h that didn't sound like any any wild

719
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: animal I'd ever heard. UM. And we also heard bizarre

720
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: like bird like noises, but the kind of bird like

721
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: noises you would hear in a in a rainforest in

722
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Central America, and not not not in uh in remote Alaska.

723
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: So it just is the strangest place. And I think

724
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: that it's Yeah, the big Foot activity is obvious, and

725
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: but I just think there's just layers and layers of

726
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: sort of uh more of what you might call a

727
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: traditional haunting too. There's just whisper sounds. It is just

728
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: a haunting haunting place, you know what. Okay, So I

729
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: gotta share something because I don't think I've ever heard

730
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: that kind of comparison Bigfoot being kind of a haunting.

731
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Because all right, I had a UFO paranormal discussion for

732
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: a long time and this lady asked me to come

733
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: over to her place. And I'm like, I'm not a psychic.

734
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: She's like, I got weird stuff going on. I'm like, well,

735
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, she insisted I go over there, and I

736
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Am not kidding you. Myself and my friend that went

737
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: over there, we saw what looked like a bigfoot creature

738
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: manifest in the middle of her kitchen, just the craziest thing.

739
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: And I I jumped up, screaming bigfoot. My friend jumped

740
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: up screaming werewolf at the exact same time, and it

741
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: literally shimmied in and shimmied out, just the craziest thing.

742
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: And and I'm like, and it was doing like poultrygeist

743
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: like activity in her home. So I'm like, has anybody

744
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 1: ever seen something like those indoors in a city? It

745
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. So haunting really is um as a as

746
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: a perfect word for it. And I mean, do you

747
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: think all these things are are related when it comes

748
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: to all these different arenas of the paranormal and strange.

749
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: I think it could be. I mean, I've noticed just

750
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: from interviewing loads of people, like there's there's a lot

751
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: of similarities between people who experience bigfoot or or a

752
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: skin walker or a dog man or something like that.

753
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: There's there's thematic consistency there. So so I can't help

754
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: but wonder if if there's some some spiritual thread that

755
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: connects all three. Um, but I don't know that there's

756
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: evidence to support that. It just seems, uh, it seems

757
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: curious to me that there's so much consistency when you

758
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: hear the discussions. Yeah, it almost seems like if a

759
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: person is open to experience in one thing, they're more

760
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: than likely going to experience another. I don't know if

761
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: you've seen those patterns as well, but it's his mind

762
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: blame some people that live in haunted house like I

763
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: did growing up. I saw UFOs. You know, I've seen

764
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: a hairy bigfoot, I've seen you know, it's like so

765
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: and then discovered chattel people hat man phenomena. I mean

766
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: it just seems to be, um, definitely a pattern and

767
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, never claiming I'm not a psychic,

768
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a medium. I just thought I had bad luck,

769
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: but this is definitely something going on. Well, I'll tell

770
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: you what this this location uh does not care if

771
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: you're open to having an experience, because you're gonna have it,

772
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: like we One of one of the craziest things about this,

773
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: this whole experience, um is you know, we were out

774
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: there every day, so I think on some level you

775
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: get you get a little bit desensitized. You know. We

776
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: we heard so much you know, stick knocking on trees

777
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: and what sounded like footsteps all that stuff. But what

778
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: what really blew me away is that when we get

779
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: the footage home and we put the we put the

780
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: show together, Um, there's been so much fan engagement. There's

781
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: been so many people that have watched the show in

782
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: slow motion and taking their own recordings and they're actually spotting,

783
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, clear are evidence in the footage that we

784
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't even catch, you know, so they're seeing they're seeing

785
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: what looks like a bigfoot creature running around in the

786
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: background of a couple of different shots. There's, um there's

787
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: one example somebody caught watching it where it looks like

788
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: there's a UFO right off right off shore and it

789
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: just vanishes into the sky. Um. You know. There's there's

790
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: like these weird kind of ghostly tighte mists that show

791
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: up on camera. And what's been incredible is the fans

792
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: who are watching the show are watching so carefully and

793
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: they're spotting stuff that we never saw. Um, so they're

794
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: actually having these these paranormal experiences and bigfoot experiences through

795
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: the show that we didn't even have. And that's that's

796
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: been sort of a a nice sort of back end

797
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: reward just because it was something we couldn't have foreseen.

798
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: It sounds like you need to have a special just

799
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: to highlight what other things have been spotted. I I

800
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: would love to. I think if if folks want to

801
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: go tweet a Discovery and Travel channel and amand it,

802
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: then I'd be I'd be thrilled to be a part

803
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, my gosh, that is just wild. You know,

804
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: the evidence too. I mean they always say, you know,

805
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: this is one of those questionable areas of research. You know,

806
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you prove beyond a doubt that

807
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: this is what's going on? And it's like like you're saying,

808
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: it's like you almost it's subjective, but you do have

809
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: hard evidence as well, So it's like, how far do

810
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: people want to open their minds? Is more the question

811
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hearing from you even Yeah, because I do

812
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: my best to to try to maintain my skepticism. You know,

813
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: I've I've had enough strange things happen to and around

814
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: me that you know, I I'm perfectly comfortable acknowledging that

815
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know. Um that said,

816
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: I think that when you're presented with with evidence, it's

817
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to accept when somebody just goes, oh,

818
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: that's nothing, when there's clearly something walking around in in

819
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: video footage. So you know, I don't I don't know.

820
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how people square that circle exactly exactly.

821
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Is any of this kept you up at night? Anything

822
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: that you've worked on? Uh? You know, I got I

823
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: got two little kids, So I'm so burnt by the

824
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: end of the day that almost nothing keeps me up

825
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: at night, but definitely is food for thought that you know,

826
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: keeps keeps feeding thoughts. So yeah, I mean there's plenty

827
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: of things that I think about all the time. Yeah,

828
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: even if I'm not losing sleepover it. Is there a

829
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: topic that you'd like to explore more that you haven't? Um,

830
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: I just think there's so much more to look at

831
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: with with the connection between these bigfoot creatures and and

832
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: sort of what we what we might call sort of

833
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: classic paranormal activity, because I think that that there's some

834
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: there might be some connection there. Definitely. I have been

835
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: asking for years for anybody seeing the manifest. Um, I

836
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: haven't come across it, so I don't. I guess I'm

837
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: the odd ball out. But hey, I'll volunteered to throw

838
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: that story in there because shook up my world. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely,

839
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that you know, there's so much we don't know.

840
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that you know, if if they're not connected, who knows.

841
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a global coincidence that that people have,

842
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, paranormal and UFO experiences in in pretty close

843
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: tandem with bigfoot experiences. I I'm fine with one or

844
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: two coincidences. But when when it keeps happening the same way,

845
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: then uh, then I start looking at real correlation. Yeah, truly,

846
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: have you ever thought of looking at I don't know,

847
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: the lighter side of things, like maybe an area of

848
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: a lot of angelic type encounters or miraculous things. I mean,

849
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: is that ever interested interested you? Yeah? I'm I've been

850
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: lucky enough to work with it with a few really

851
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Speaker 1: talented mediums who um, who are are sort of more

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Speaker 1: geared towards positive spirit chuial engagement um and and I'm

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Speaker 1: very interested in that. I just I have not come

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Speaker 1: across the appetite on the part of the networks and

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Speaker 1: the distributors to do stuff like that. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's only so far my personal interests contact me. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely uh open to the idea that that not

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Speaker 1: not every spirit is is trying to harm people, and

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Speaker 1: that there there really is some some true good that

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Speaker 1: can come from from positive engagement. Right, Yeah, there is,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, so much so much out there. Well,

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Speaker 1: how can people listen and see the show? And what

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Speaker 1: other information can you give that if they have a

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Speaker 1: story they want to share with you. So the show

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Speaker 1: is Alaska Killer Bigfoot. It's on Discovery Plus exclusively UM

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Speaker 1: because some folks don't don't want to pay for another

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Speaker 1: streamer and I fully understand that, UM. But there's clips

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Speaker 1: available on on the Travel Channel, Instagram feed on the

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Speaker 1: Discover Plus Instagram feed, more information of the show on

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Speaker 1: their Twitter feeds. There's also a public Facebook group four

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Speaker 1: fans of the show UH called Alaskan Killer Bigfoot UM,

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Speaker 1: and it's actually run by by the cast member, so

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Speaker 1: they regularly engage with with fans of the show, answer

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Speaker 1: questions UM, share photos from behind the scenes, stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and it's also a place where people can discuss UH

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Speaker 1: their own experiences and and sort of try to get

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Speaker 1: some clarity on what happened to these guys in the

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Speaker 1: Alaskan wild. Great. Oh, thank you so much Brian for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show today. This is really fascinating. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it anytime. Well, so we have

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Speaker 1: come to the bottom of another fabulous program. I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed as much as I did, because wow, UM,

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Speaker 1: and I want to remind you once again go to

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Speaker 1: my main website, Heidi Hollis dot com and tell me

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Speaker 1: your stories. Tell me what's on your mind, what you're researching,

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Speaker 1: or what you would like to have me discuss here

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Speaker 1: are the show, or even have a guest on this

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Speaker 1: show that you are looking for and you know also

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Speaker 1: go to the Outlanders comic dot com find me on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I have a paranormal comics trip called The Outlanders and

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Speaker 1: I've been having a lot of fun with it and

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Speaker 1: I think you might enjoy it as well. You guys,

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Speaker 1: you have been listening to Dark Becomes Light with me

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Speaker 1: Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast a AM paranormal podcast Network. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning in. We'll see you next time. Goodbye, everybody. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait

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Speaker 1: till you hear the next one. You've been listening to

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.